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00:00 * asciilifeform prefers viktor pelevin's уркаина - 'urkaine', which metamorphosizes over 1000 years (in one of his tales) to 'urkland' and then 'orcland.'
00:01 decimation lol
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00:17 asciilifeform http://imgur.com/cHWju2Y << re: orcs.
00:17 assbot Pigsty. - Imgur
00:20 decimation this lurkomore is a hilarious combination of wikipedia, pravda, and 4chan
00:20 asciilifeform more like 'encyclopaedia dramatica' but more entertaining.
00:26 mircea_popescu ahh that was nice.
00:28 mircea_popescu ;;later tell Bitcoin1011: Is he involved in other mobile apps in the space for my reference? << no, he's the resident talent scout.
00:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
00:28 mircea_popescu decimation: to me the obvious use for plastic turd is to make molds for metal pouring << metal pouring is a very iffy proposition tho.
00:30 mircea_popescu assbot: Tech Visionary George Gilder: "Bitcoin is the Libertarian Solution to the Money Enigma." - Reason.com << what is this, "i've caught up to 2011 let me tell you what i have now discovered" ?
00:30 decimation yeah professionals are constantly monitoring temperature, chemical tests, adding various trace elements
00:31 mircea_popescu it's starting to amze me, the natural cargo-cult-ish inclination of most english space dwellers. it's a sort of, 1. learn french ; 2. read some fragments of rousseau at local library, by themselves ; 3. start blog to impart your discovery that you call "the social deal" to the world.
00:31 decimation mircea_popescu: indeed, these folks are slow on the uptake, but it is amusing to see reflections on the edge of 'real media'
00:31 mircea_popescu instead of the more normal 1. learn french ; 2. read some fragments of rousseau at local library ; 3. proceed to read the 200 years' worth of discussion on rousseau
00:32 mircea_popescu the rough equivalent would be, peasant goes to plow field, finds roman coin trove, mounts them in his nose, goes about town like he's invented african tribalism.
00:33 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: I just don't get why they think it's all about some party << because if it's about something in their system then that validates the system in question.
00:33 mircea_popescu "look how right we are, and how relevant to the future and general affairs as a going concern : even this bitcoin thing is about something we discuss."
00:34 mircea_popescu for this same reason a newtonian physics professor would rather entertain phlogiston than string theory.
00:34 decimation you have to understand, the "Libertarian party" in the US is a perennial loser, they are desperate to attach to anything that smells of success.
00:35 mircea_popescu moreover, the actual loser in the us, ie, the actual us, is desperate to attach the current representation of their eventual doom to something that's a perennial loser.
00:35 mircea_popescu which is why i was talking about "in ron paul terms" yest.
00:36 mircea_popescu makes one feel better about onesefl if can at least claim bitcoin is like you know, "that thing that's bee going on forever at the outskirts".
00:36 mircea_popescu "the geese are not roused by the germans, but by the crows outside the gate".
00:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/AR8UVBW << quoted for the battery. now that EXACT battery, so exact that a vague outline thereof is the most that's needed and the most a person of taste and discrimination would ever draw, for fear of being you know, boringingly fastidious, is a 4.5 volt 3 cell mangan oxide battery that was the most important element of my childhood.
00:37 assbot ('chemistry and life') 1990, vol. 1, pp. 83 - Imgur
00:37 mircea_popescu everything important depended on it
00:38 mircea_popescu http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh110/Ovidanie/Baterie45VElba1.jpg
00:38 mircea_popescu best gift ever, too.
00:38 mircea_popescu you could taste how full it was, also.
00:38 mircea_popescu just strong enough to rig it to girl's bits productively, all sorts of surprising uses.
00:39 mircea_popescu http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh110/Ovidanie/Album%20nou/BaterieElba.jpg << bottom shot. paper casing.
00:39 decimation one rarely encounters such batteries in the us
00:39 mircea_popescu this was more of a 60s 70s and somewhat 80s thing.
00:40 mircea_popescu the 9 volt cell things took over eventually.
00:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: with little-to-none attention to principles << the reason would be that chemistry is not a science. physics is the science. if the kids wanted the principles they'd go for physics. if they didn't that means they don't wish to understand the thing, but merely you know... be engineers :D
00:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00070388 = 21.2924 BTC [-] {2}
00:44 decimation most "Libertarians" are pretty much leftists with a slight preference for more "personal freedom" (the kind without personal responsibility)
00:45 mircea_popescu the problem with letting people self identify instead of having third parties identify them is that people will mis-selfidentify.
00:45 mircea_popescu part of why the wot is so fucking useful. "you're not a ceo until mp says you're a ceo" has, along with its excellent oppressive potential, some incredible value in practice.
00:47 mircea_popescu " you will need to swap the electrolyte a few times, and clean the cavity (at least with a nail) from the products of electrolysis." from the imgur in question. this is not strictly true : in some cases the electrolyte products are protective, in some cases however they are not. depends a lot what we're drilling. (this is roughly why rust is a problem for iron but not aluminum say.)
00:48 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: it's just a trilema article written like shakespeare, no? << it's the merchant of venice ye lout! :D
00:50 mircea_popescu !up bgupta
00:50 mircea_popescu !up bgupta_
00:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: but for desktop machining - perfect. so long as you aren't in a hurry. << well no, see, electricity is still sold by the watt. whether you're in a hurry or not, you still need same wattage, so still are beholden to the same (rather high) cost. so i suppose "so long as you're making something small enough for your fun doing it to be worth the 0.001 cent to 1/4 dollar price transition"
00:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 430 @ 0.00475215 = 2.0434 BTC [+] {8}
00:53 decimation asciilifeform: http://ebayitem.com/301199083821 << cheap GPS module that has variable pulse output up to 20 MHz, good for lab signal source
00:53 assbot Ublox Neo 7M GPS GNSS Module Built in Data Memory Replace Neo 6M | eBay
00:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: and we always wondered what an 'EGGOG' was. << ahaha that's so cute.
00:56 mircea_popescu in this spirit : my old z80 clone had an english "codeword" instruction set printed out right on the kbd, as was fashionable at the time.
00:56 mircea_popescu the word merge was there, which in romanian means "it works" (technically, "it goes") and is often a colloquialism "-merge ? -merge, merge" roughly works to "how goes it ? " "okay I guess".
00:56 mircea_popescu so yeah, i used to include 10. Merge Merge instructions in basic programs.
00:57 decimation I always wondered about non-English-speaking folk who had to learn "Englishisms" to program computers when I was younger
00:58 decimation I guess the default situation is that if you can program a computer, you can learn english too
00:58 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: satisfying log. keep up the good work. << i guess we're all labrats in kako's little lab experiment.
00:58 mircea_popescu AND HES EXPLOITING US
00:59 mircea_popescu decimation it's a curse hiding a blessing : in learning english as the pronounceable pigdin of computer symbols, one learns to disrespect the social conventions the language carries otherwise.
00:59 mircea_popescu pretty much the only correct way to learn english, if you ask me.
00:59 decimation sounds legit
01:00 mircea_popescu then one readily progresses, about the age of 16 or so, to realise that necessarily the same is true of their own naitve language
01:00 mircea_popescu at which point sudden immunity to say salesmen develops.
01:00 mircea_popescu "just because you say goto 10 don't expect me to care, nitwit"
01:00 mircea_popescu suddenly the coder kid discovers he can be a much better lawyer than most judges specifically because he can read a cleaner version of the text than people who learned it on the "linguistics" path.
01:01 ThickAsThieves ;;ticker
01:01 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 472.0, Best ask: 473.39, Bid-ask spread: 1.39000, Last trade: 473.39, 24 hour volume: 17210.88179869, 24 hour low: 471.6, 24 hour high: 493.98, 24 hour vwap: 482.928376209
01:01 ThickAsThieves sorry guys
01:01 mircea_popescu maybe not as clean ultimately but certainly cleaner per unit effort.
01:01 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves how goes ?
01:01 ThickAsThieves awesome
01:01 ThickAsThieves been shorting the shit outta btc
01:01 mircea_popescu lol. making out like a bandit ?
01:01 ThickAsThieves embarrasingly
01:02 mircea_popescu good for you.
01:02 mircea_popescu don't get caught outdoors now.
01:02 ThickAsThieves inded
01:02 decimation Mr. Yarvin experienced something similiar w.r.t. American culture: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-i-stopped-believing-in-democracy.html "For example, the first thing I remember from my first year in Maryland was something called a "pep rally." For those of you who did not attend an American public high school, a "pep rally" is basically a straight ripoff of what Albert Speer did at Nuremberg, except that (a)
01:02 assbot Unqualified Reservations: How I stopped believing in democracy
01:02 ThickAsThieves indeed
01:02 decimation it is indoors, (b) there is not quite as much fire, and (c) there is less saluting, more screaming, and about the same amount of chanting."
01:03 mircea_popescu btw asciilifeform here's one for you : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aerj4qXPHJc
01:03 assbot Prikoke (fabula animata) - YouTube
01:03 mircea_popescu planeta moldova being pretty much the only claim to cultural fame/intellectual achievement of the imaginary country of "moldavia".
01:04 mircea_popescu the interesting thing with those people however is that they speak and old, and for this reason arguably more powerful version of romanian (still with the very romanian "all other languages are just romanian badly pronounced") and they're all fluent in russian. especially the huy-russian part of russian.
01:05 mircea_popescu the result being a scary fucking combo of psychotic expressivity (they also drink a lot, ukrainian style).
01:06 mircea_popescu decimation and less tits. the few (like,4 or so) actual participants at the things i ever talk too, all 4 mostly went there for the braless wonders in attendance. it was apparently THE place to meet chicks.
01:07 mircea_popescu and speaking of which, http://static.entertainmentwise.com/gallery/BRITNEY2_BRALESS_WONDER.jpg
01:08 decimation yeah American high school is weird that way, pretty much a mechanism for ascii's monkeys to identify the "useful" monkeys and begin the beatings
01:09 decimation Mr. Yarvin goes on: "If you are an American raising kids abroad and you want to reintroduce them to your country, I highly recommend this sort of shock-and-awe approach. Having to deal with an American high school was not pleasant, but it gave me a certain respect for America: it exists. Once you go to college, you are no longer in the real America. You are in a fortified outpost of future America, which has been planted in the real
01:09 decimation America to enlighten and assimilate it."
01:09 decimation That seems pretty much true in my experience
01:10 mircea_popescu you know it's bizarre, because it didn't work that way in romania of yore. we had a pretty sweet tacit agreement where the slower girls could copy for exams. generally there was a boy-genius in charge for any subject (chemistry was HARD and a chick did it, but otherwise was boys) and the guy in charge usually prepared a "for the class" version of the test (something that gave good marks but was a) comprehensible for th
01:10 mircea_popescu e common man - or woman - so they'd not be embarassed if teacher asked followups and b) was credibly something they could come up with while still correct above a C lvl)
01:10 mircea_popescu this resulted in a very docile and obedient population. they, for instance, always took notes. we never did.
01:11 decimation generally in the us none of the kids in "regular class" give a shit about grades, learning, etc, which creates a different social dynamic
01:11 mircea_popescu at the time in question, you literally could not go on a date if you sucked in school.
01:11 decimation because no one was going to beat them if they failed basic pre-algebra
01:11 ben_vulpes i learned at an early age the correlation between grades and what one learned
01:12 mircea_popescu i mean you could be cool other ways, but an inability to ace something meant you, in so many words, sucked.
01:12 mircea_popescu this attitude was principally what distinguished the privileged hs from the prole "vocational" w/e.
01:13 mircea_popescu so i guess in a sense the observed difference readily reduces to "well, the us is a true popular democracy : they have no privileged highschool, everyone goes to the prole vocational crapolade"
01:14 ben_vulpes "no privileged highschool"
01:14 ben_vulpes bahahahaha
01:14 decimation yeah, if you had brains generally better schools made provision for you to escape to the 'nerd class'
01:14 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes mind, privilege is a very specific thing.
01:14 decimation but the context is set by prole thinking
01:14 mircea_popescu it is when everyone else is taught to get out of your way because you are better than them.
01:14 ben_vulpes i am indeed coming in on the tail of this one - to what specifically do you refer?
01:15 ben_vulpes that's why i sniped the best public school girls throughout hs
01:15 mircea_popescu ah but outside of personal experience, i'm discussiong a system.
01:15 mircea_popescu obviously some kids will do fine in any conceivable arrangement.
01:15 ben_vulpes storytime!
01:15 mircea_popescu this is, in so many words, the whole hope of humanity.
01:15 ben_vulpes actually i'll not interrupt.
01:15 mircea_popescu im done :)
01:16 mircea_popescu well not done with the logs and pinging ascii, but with this skein
01:16 ben_vulpes well in that case
01:16 ben_vulpes i attended a particular hs (OES, for the lurkers), and rode the bus home instead of driving as I got more reading time out of the experience.
01:17 ben_vulpes OES being in deep southwest and my home being in the near SE (bezzlar-ployees having to live near the mega fabs and my father not being one, we lived in the cool part of town: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=218), i had much time to use for reading.
01:17 assbot #bitcoin-assets bash
01:18 mircea_popescu http://thechive.com/2012/10/18/where-were-going-you-wont-need-bras-55-photos/ tits, meanwhile. for the... lurkers.
01:18 assbot Where we’re going, you won’t need bras (55 Photos) : : theCHIVE
01:18 cazalla ATO released their bitcoin guidance today https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Gen/Tax-treatment-of-crypto-currencies-in-Australia---specifically-bitcoin/
01:18 assbot Tax treatment of crypto-currencies in Australia - specifically bitcoin | Australian Taxation Office
01:19 ben_vulpes at some point during sophomore year i realized that my bus passed a local public hs, so i stopped in at the starbucks outside of campus, timing my arrival to be some days thirty minutes before class got out and some days thirty minutes after class got out (i had no rationale at the time, but it was a good call)
01:20 ben_vulpes this made me many "friends" outside of school, and for a kid going to a school whose entire HS complement numberd 190, this mattered.
01:20 mircea_popescu hs got campuses nao ? splurge.
01:20 ben_vulpes i did
01:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00070436 = 1.7257 BTC [+]
01:20 ben_vulpes mpoe still trading in the sevens
01:20 decimation mircea_popescu: "traditional" US high school has massive facility mostly serving school athletics
01:21 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes almost looks like it may reach 6!
01:21 mircea_popescu but anyway, so what's the punchline ?
01:21 ben_vulpes so i'm retarded right?
01:21 mircea_popescu THAT's the punchline ?
01:22 ben_vulpes this implies to me that mpoe holders are dumping to move their coins to usd like typical momentum traders
01:22 ben_vulpes winklevoss etf comes online, btc legs down to 380 briefly, mpoe trades at what - six again?
01:23 mircea_popescu nfi.
01:23 decimation ben_vulpes: that's when you hit the buy button right?
01:23 ThickAsThieves building bubbles ain't easy!
01:24 ben_vulpes whither the mpex smarts? or is everything wackily correlated and when btc rockets to 800 come march o'clock does doge briefly cross 50 satoshi again?
01:24 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> so what if ben_vulpes has it his way and by say 2050 most people that are people actually live in one ? << uh pardon?
01:24 mircea_popescu submarines.
01:25 ben_vulpes just because it makes sense to mine high-density rare earths from the seafloor doesn't mean any significant number of meatwads are going to be living subsurface.
01:25 mircea_popescu and in this you are wrong.
01:25 mircea_popescu why do you think california even exists ?
01:25 ben_vulpes plate tectonics?
01:25 ThickAsThieves i'd live subsurface, if it were cooler
01:26 decimation the thing that sucks about submarines is that when you are on the surface they are unstable
01:26 ben_vulpes decimation: aren't they most stable subsurface though?
01:26 decimation so you get a terrible ride unless you can be underwater for a long time
01:26 decimation right underwater the ride is great, but you need energy source that doesn't depend on breathing air
01:27 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> well, lettuce see. the submarine is submerged. it does not care about "weather" in either fluid sense. with the new fleshlights and tumblr pr0nz... i defy you to find a bunch of 20somethings whose current life would be differen if they were subbed. < ah
01:27 mircea_popescu decimation let's put it this way : long before 2050 it will be feasible to build a submersible that never surfaces, can host one redditard and weighs under 1k tons.
01:27 mircea_popescu that's a cost of about 100k in scrap metal. ie, affordable.
01:27 mircea_popescu the tech exists today, integrally.
01:27 decimation yeah such a thing is probably near the realm of possibility, I agree
01:28 mircea_popescu you don't need "air", you need oxygen. oxygen is in water, and not expensive to get out.
01:28 mircea_popescu burning the resulting hydrogen in your own atmosphere a) purifies the air and b) makes water.
01:28 mircea_popescu drinkable water i mean.
01:29 decimation you need an energy source to break the water bonds
01:29 mircea_popescu energy is not actually expensive, both nuclear and geothermal generators can conveniently live submerged.
01:29 mircea_popescu and fully automated at that.
01:29 mircea_popescu in this sense, global warming would be a boon for humanity, if it weren't a wholly concocted piece of nonsense.
01:29 ben_vulpes what is this chive thing
01:30 decimation as ascii's quote of Mr. Yarvin points out, one would then make themselves a slave to Neptune, who isn't a forgiving master
01:30 mircea_popescu ppl trying to be cool.
01:30 mircea_popescu decimation zephyr is better ?
01:31 decimation good point. or worse, those who worship statues of themselves
01:31 mircea_popescu living makes one live, this much is agreed. merely pleading to ignorance isn't much contribution (and his tendency to plead to nonsense is why i dislike curtis)
01:31 mircea_popescu specifically : just because you're used to zephyr's inconveniences to the point you don't notice them anymore
01:31 mircea_popescu whereas the neptune inconveniences appear uncommon and thus remarkable,
01:31 mircea_popescu doesn't say anything useful. to fish water is as unremarkable as air to you.
01:32 mircea_popescu but there's no underwater tornadoes.
01:32 decimation nor do hurricanes, earthquakes, etc make much difference to the fish
01:32 mircea_popescu no living thing underwater was ever pierced by a tootphick turned into a pike by "unseasonable" winds.
01:32 mircea_popescu there's no ocean hail.
01:32 mircea_popescu no thing can kill you by fallling on your head under water.
01:33 mircea_popescu i nearly got done in in romania by a 5 sq inch, 100 gram piece of tile that fell a foot in front of me, from ten or so floors up.
01:33 decimation one thing I would certainly grant: it would be far easier for humanity to escape to the ocean floor than to the harshness of space
01:33 mircea_popescu unforgiving master indeed.
01:33 mircea_popescu exactly.
01:33 mircea_popescu now grant one more thing : there's going to be no space until long after the ocean floor is alma mater.
01:33 decimation agreed.
01:33 mircea_popescu so there we go.
01:34 mircea_popescu curtis yarvin a footnote of meaninglessness in a larger discussion, as every fucking time.
01:34 decimation yeah, he has a tendency to "drive-by" interesting points without actually making a point
01:35 mircea_popescu that much doesn't even annoy me, my problem is that he without exception ends up pleading to ignorance, to numbers, to baculum, to some fallacy.
01:35 ben_vulpes <nubbins`> how about the marijuana supports terr.. oh, wait` << from a conversation with a client earlier today: "pot makes you stupid! if my son keeps smoking, i'm going to cut him off."
01:35 mircea_popescu it's like reading curtis bouvard, guy read alot but never had any sort of help to become a systematic thinker.
01:36 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i can see that.
01:36 ben_vulpes kid's probably just retarded to begin with.
01:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25183 @ 0.00070618 = 17.7837 BTC [+] {2}
01:36 mircea_popescu holy shit! Musi-Puxi!
01:36 mircea_popescu dude this is too good.
01:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you could taste how full it was << YES that battery.
01:37 musi-puxi o hai stan.
01:37 asciilifeform 'плоская батарейка' (flat batt)
01:37 asciilifeform saw it open, 3 1.5v cells.
01:38 asciilifeform electricity is still sold by the watt << most humans don't have 1000 amp feeds, hence 'no hurry' observation.
01:38 mircea_popescu now i can say mp stands for musi puxi and nobody will fucking know just how great it is.
01:38 asciilifeform 'priced by the watt' is only approximately true in this sense.
01:39 asciilifeform cheap GPS module that has variable pulse output << no accuracy to speak of for short intervals (signal distortion of atmosphere, etc)
01:39 mircea_popescu aEYaOPEDEK ahahah
01:40 decimation asciilifeform: I think they make a version with TCXO, doubt cheap chinese version has
01:40 mircea_popescu <ICEbErg> PHGMYUBYUIREYAE YRN B lYaY, ONDLNYAYNBEE X oHREPE NAHRYUER?
01:40 mircea_popescu <Ishamael [eager]> you yourself nahryuer
01:42 decimation yeah http://www.u-blox.com/images/downloads/Product_Docs/NEO-7_ProductSummary_%28GPS.G7-HW-11003%29.pdf "neo 7-N" is the version with TCXO
01:42 asciilifeform us is a true popular democracy : they have no privileged highschool << nope
01:42 * asciilifeform went to one
01:42 asciilifeform (admit by exam. plenty of these here.)
01:43 decimation asciilifeform: generally only in the big cities though
01:43 decimation at least for "public" school
01:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well then all is well with the world.
01:43 mircea_popescu no true popular democracy exists
01:43 mircea_popescu as predicted by... welll, everyone always.
01:44 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tnTUsuvjRU << moldavian highschool.
01:44 assbot Planeta Moldova - Cauzalitate - YouTube
01:45 decimation asciilifeform: the datasheet artfully declines to provide any spec for timing accuracy - long or short term
01:46 asciilifeform decimation: no need for data sheet here. there's a reason people build atomic clocks (plural) instead of having just one built and listening to it via radio.
01:46 decimation yeah, but if you are going to build a module purporting to provide timing it would be nice to provide typical allan variance at various intervals, etc
01:47 asciilifeform 'Вопрос читал?' << 'have you read the question?' =~ 'бНОПНЯ ВХРЮК?' << bnopnya grunted in?
01:47 mircea_popescu decimation: mircea_popescu: minor nitpick - I don't think USG employees get dental actually << generally no, but afaik nsa folk do.
01:48 asciilifeform dental << at any good 'rupture farms' like mine, they have dental
01:48 mircea_popescu so there.
01:48 asciilifeform ;;google rupture farms
01:48 gribble RuptureFarms 1029 - Oddworld Wiki - Wikia: <http://oddworld.wikia.com/wiki/RuptureFarms_1029>; Abe's Oddysee - This Is Rupture Farms (Intro FMV) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSNylchzdCg>; Oddworld Abe's Oddysee Rupture Farms Intro PS1 - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JRoyc2LKRg>
01:48 mircea_popescu As the protests in Ferguson, Missouri over police fatally shooting 19-year-old Mike Brown have raged through the past several nights, more than a few people have noticed how relatively quiet Facebook news feeds have been on the matter. While #Ferguson is a trending hashtag, Zeynep Tufekci pointed out at Medium that news about the violence was, as best, slow to percolate through her own feed, despite people posting libe
01:48 mircea_popescu rally about it.
01:48 cazalla ;;seen kyrio
01:48 gribble I have not seen kyrio.
01:49 mircea_popescu now let's wonder why exactly is the usg dept of facebook able to spend 20bn on some random purchase of a valueless firm
01:49 cazalla anyone know kyrio (left me -10) because of something to do with danielpbarron
01:49 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust kyrio
01:49 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask kyrio!~suck@awesome.and.cute.little.tiny.babyturtlesarecool.com. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user kyrio: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=kyrio | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kyrio | Rated since: Mon Feb 3 23:38:33 2014
01:50 mircea_popescu Scammed my buddy...**BUYER/SELLER BEWARE**
01:50 mircea_popescu apparently some scammor.
01:52 * asciilifeform as 9 y.o. boy, tried in vain to buy a flat battery in usa, 'what is this pisshole'
01:53 mircea_popescu ;;rate kyrio -3 does not understand how the wot works or what it's for.
01:53 gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -3 for user kyrio has been recorded.
01:53 mircea_popescu should more or less fix the problem.
01:54 RagnarDanneskjol speaking of - mp - Thanks for the referral; what more could a guy ask? think I'm gonna be a dork like pete & throw that up on my website.
01:54 RagnarDanneskjol I actually have a history with those guys and would be derelict in my b-a duties if I didn't raise a cautionary flag… THey hired one of my best devs to adapt a python arb model… Payment commitments to said dev got a little squirrely. Also, I volunteered my own time to fix their website, redid all the html, css, wrote most of their content and they kind of blew it off without even a
01:54 RagnarDanneskjol thank you.
01:54 mircea_popescu you got a website ?
01:54 RagnarDanneskjol oh yea
01:54 mircea_popescu and which guys are these.
01:55 RagnarDanneskjol the ones who asked about dev support earlier today
01:55 RagnarDanneskjol They reestablished contact today once they put Ragnar & me together, want to retain me again, sent a job order. So, I am withholding final judgement pending a come-to-jesus conversation we're scheduled to have tomorrow so I can get to the bottom of what transpired.
01:55 asciilifeform why rust is a problem for iron but not aluminum say << rust is actually electrochemical phenonemon. so not a problem for this experiment (after - is different question)
01:55 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vDXTKzYz58
01:55 assbot Communist Russia Party Dance SWAGGA! (DARUDE - SANDSTORM) - YouTube
01:55 mircea_popescu now you do it.
01:55 mircea_popescu (or make gf do it :D)
01:55 RagnarDanneskjol ha
01:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah i realised as i was typing that the connection is actually not as close as i'd have liked.
01:56 mircea_popescu then i wondered how to fix, and then i realised that well... no way really, best wait to be taken to task for my business insider treatment of science.
01:56 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FS1bxaGTg << this is the reason we like ukraina btw.
01:56 assbot Ukraine Got Talent - The world's best pole dancer - Anastasia Sokolova - YouTube
01:57 RagnarDanneskjol wow
01:58 asciilifeform submarine rough ride << float a tethered photovoltaic array. problem solved.
01:59 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol and you should see twelve year olds.
01:59 mircea_popescu no butt, no heavy thigs, can walk on that thing.
01:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00070709 = 17.3237 BTC [+] {2}
02:00 asciilifeform his tendency to plead to nonsense is why i dislike curtis << 'wannabee' polymaths are doomed to 'plead nonsense'
02:00 RagnarDanneskjol I am blind mostly, so
02:01 asciilifeform no living thing underwater was ever pierced by a tootphick << ever see a fish explode?
02:01 mircea_popescu (something liek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxN_13eGPg0 )
02:01 assbot Daniela Silivas 1988 Olympics AA Floor - YouTube
02:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform only if brought up.
02:01 asciilifeform aye
02:01 asciilifeform the equivalent of us falling down.
02:02 mircea_popescu notrly.
02:02 mircea_popescu there's no magical gravity of water surface.,
02:02 asciilifeform no - but there's buoyancy.
02:02 mircea_popescu not to the degree.
02:03 mircea_popescu no fish got ever splatted by distance sqaured.
02:03 asciilifeform right.
02:05 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2014#800899 << that's a particularly juicy one decimation
02:05 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
02:05 mircea_popescu think of it. could not find decent rng to make keys
02:05 mircea_popescu for months, this.
02:05 mircea_popescu i mean, i kept mpex online for a few days more than the consensus'd have expectd or called reasonable on occasion.
02:05 mircea_popescu there's some difference here.
02:05 asciilifeform could not find decent rng to make keys << different story here.
02:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.0007071 = 6.8942 BTC [+]
02:06 mircea_popescu hm ?
02:06 asciilifeform it is generally known that in nsa-lande, only nsa is permitted to generate keys
02:06 asciilifeform they are flown, by courier, to the field.
02:06 asciilifeform in briefcases.
02:06 asciilifeform with signatures, forms in triplicate.
02:07 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: because? << specify what are you trying to accomplish. impossible to explain what's wrong with any given methodology to resolve an undefined problem.
02:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes.
02:07 asciilifeform this was the inspiration for my 'country of which nothing is known but the name' piece.
02:07 mircea_popescu this is sane.
02:07 mircea_popescu but this was not the problem.
02:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.286 = 0.858 BTC [+] {3}
02:08 asciilifeform clearly they had a small problem assembling the priests, finding a suitable goat (or virgin - or both) to sacrifice on schedule, etc.
02:08 mircea_popescu *: asciilifeform is still waiting for the first leak from the u.s. dept. of wherever-the-stoolie-reports-from-btc-exchanges go. << there was recently a dump of everyone-on-coinbase, for instance.
02:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the problem wasn't they couldn
02:09 mircea_popescu t find a briefcase, or paper for forms, or a currier or gas for the plane.
02:09 mircea_popescu the problem was they couldn't ok the keys.
02:09 asciilifeform why the briefcase didn't parachute down on time, is not told in the tale
02:09 * asciilifeform wasn't there
02:10 mircea_popescu master in charge of saying "this key is ok to be used in production" refused to say so.
02:10 asciilifeform or was on a bender
02:10 mircea_popescu bureaucrats looked at cost to fix problem vs try and get rid of him, miscalculated. tried the latter.
02:10 mircea_popescu the effort failed.
02:10 mircea_popescu this pissed master off.
02:11 mircea_popescu cue successive list of idiotic, bureaucratic "attempts" to "in good faith" "make progress towards fixing going forward"
02:11 mircea_popescu cue string of obscenities.
02:11 mircea_popescu etc.
02:11 mircea_popescu once one actually promotes cold callers and phone marketeers to govt positions, there are bound to be problems.
02:12 asciilifeform he expects no impact to the satellite’s planned design life of 14 years.... he says. “We put enough fuel onboard to pretty much fire those thrusters continuously. << 'folks who won't do arithmetic are doomed to talk nonsense' (j. mccarthy)
02:12 mircea_popescu lol
02:12 asciilifeform who, precisely, he expects to fool ?
02:13 mircea_popescu well... people who don't do arithmetic ?
02:14 asciilifeform student exercise: assume xenon, etc. fuel for ion engine, stored at 300 atm. say, 1g/sec expenditure. calculate size of tank that holds 14 yrs. worth of thrust.
02:14 mircea_popescu ;;google xenon atomic mass
02:14 gribble Chemical Elements.com - Xenon (Xe): <http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/xe.html>; Xenon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenon>; #54 - Xenon - Xe: <http://www.hobart.k12.in.us/ksms/PeriodicTable/xenon.htm>
02:15 mircea_popescu ;;calc 3600 * 24 * 365 * 14 / 1000 / 54 / 300
02:15 gribble 27.2533333333
02:15 mircea_popescu 27 1/4 cubic meters ?
02:16 asciilifeform now, what was the volume of the machine.
02:16 RagnarDanneskjol isnt the thrust energy needed to calculate this?
02:16 mircea_popescu well definitely no satelite the size of the washington monument was ever put in space.
02:16 asciilifeform qed.
02:16 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol no cause he gave me 1g/s
02:16 RagnarDanneskjol oh duh
02:16 asciilifeform ^ a piddling minimum
02:17 asciilifeform afaik the world record holder was the american 'keyhole' series of machine - size of a bus.
02:18 mircea_popescu for shits and giggles :
02:18 mircea_popescu ;;calc 57.38 * 6 * 3.13
02:18 gribble 1077.5964
02:18 mircea_popescu that's a german uboat. so like... a satellite about halfway between a bycicle and a nazi uboat.
02:20 mircea_popescu asciilifeform was this put in orbit with the use of the russian's rockets or arianne ?
02:20 asciilifeform titan
02:22 mircea_popescu the 3b did what, 3tons ?
02:23 asciilifeform ~20
02:23 asciilifeform (if i recall)
02:24 mircea_popescu well if the satellite was nothing but a pressurized xenon container, it may have somehow squeezed in.
02:24 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 3b - 3 tons (pediwikia) - aha.
02:24 mircea_popescu maybe general whatshisname speaks the truth
02:24 asciilifeform 4 - 20 tons.
02:25 mircea_popescu wait. i see here leo 20 tons.
02:25 mircea_popescu you're not about to tell me someone put a 27 cubic meter thing in low earth orbit ?
02:25 mircea_popescu what is it, a parade float ?
02:25 asciilifeform 'keyhole' is more famous as 'hubble telescope' (that one got turned upside-down.)
02:26 mircea_popescu what was hubble, like 11tons ?
02:27 asciilifeform approx.
02:27 asciilifeform (as per public specs)
02:28 mircea_popescu Vexual: roundup resistant ganja? i think someones trolling << think more, roundup resistant coke.
02:28 mircea_popescu the whole of the production control stragety in columbia is to helispray
02:28 mircea_popescu if that goes away, the current usg-friendly columbia govt goes away.
02:29 asciilifeform so they'll spray 'agent orange' - or napalm
02:29 mircea_popescu yeah. right.,
02:29 mircea_popescu because if you give iraquis a ton of m16s they're not going to raid your embassy with them
02:30 mircea_popescu so you have to evacuate the whole shebang like crazed rabbits, and do a shit job of cleanup in the process
02:30 mircea_popescu so people all over the intel community can laugh at you for yet another week, for yet another reason.
02:30 mircea_popescu totally great idea, give columbia napalm.
02:30 asciilifeform 'give' as in drop.
02:30 mircea_popescu what, from the 27 cubic meter satellitarian tanks ?
02:30 asciilifeform lol
02:31 mircea_popescu shit's heavy mate.
02:31 asciilifeform presumably from aeroplane
02:31 mircea_popescu flown from where, the faulklands ?
02:31 mircea_popescu cuba ?
02:31 asciilifeform florida?
02:32 mircea_popescu oh, canaveral ?
02:32 mircea_popescu SATELLITE NAPALM!
02:33 asciilifeform muppet platoon knows from where - not me
02:34 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol: be moar vigilant with teh monies << the problem with that article, as with all "studies" of its ilk, is that it makes the (generally reasonable, now not) herbi mistake, as detailed here : http://trilema.com/2014/no-argument/
02:34 assbot No argument pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
02:34 asciilifeform point of the 'roundup' thread being, if genetical engineering were presently 'a thing', there's be cocainatious mildew growing in your neighbour's bathtub, and colombia would be exporting llama stockings
02:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform not that kind, the useful kind. merely the current kind, ie, the resistant thing.
02:35 asciilifeform righto
02:35 * RagnarDanneskjol investigating further
02:35 mircea_popescu asciilifeform imagine if you could genetically engineer human females
02:35 mircea_popescu not necessarily so they're slut,
02:36 mircea_popescu but so they're infertile and past the age of 16 or so, their breast tissue secretes copious lsd.
02:36 mircea_popescu now that's a woman for a lifetime.
02:36 asciilifeform we're aaalmost there.
02:36 mircea_popescu have her breastfeed the dog, watch it meow.
02:37 asciilifeform soviet scientist declares, 'we've invented a shit-to-food converter.' 'does it work?' 'sorta. spreading on bread: worlks!!11! eating - not quite yet.'
02:37 mircea_popescu Duffer1: my stomach isn't a basketball anymore << poor duff.
02:38 assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 7 @ 0.08145503 = 0.5702 BTC [+] {2}
02:39 mircea_popescu Duffer1: it was quite painful, and i refused pain meds until the ct scan results came back and the dr said "your appendix is all messed up, we're transfering you to a different hospital, ambulance is en route, take pain meds now" << there is this legendary romanian surgeon who supposedly sutured his own appendix. this may be apocryphal, in any sense i wouldn't try to undergo surgery w/o painkillers, tis nonsense.
02:39 * asciilifeform tried to dig out the paper re: psychoactives spotted in bartholin's gland secretions, fails to turn up - perhaps too sleepy
02:40 asciilifeform leonid ivanovich rogozov.
02:40 mircea_popescu not surprising.
02:40 mircea_popescu cuntjuice can drive one wild.
02:40 asciilifeform rogozov << autoappendectomy, not cuntjuice
02:41 asciilifeform no idea if a fellow from Ro ever pulled a rogozov - but hard to say why not
02:42 mircea_popescu now im starting to suspect it may just be a case of romanians stealing a good story.
02:42 asciilifeform lol
02:42 mircea_popescu as the period sort-of matches.
02:42 mircea_popescu so... yeah.
02:43 mircea_popescu Antibiotics were administered directly into the peritoneal cavity << holy shit fucking soviets.
02:44 asciilifeform 'twas this or fellete his makarov, i imagine.
02:44 mircea_popescu actually peritonitis resolves naturally in about 5ish percent of cases.
02:44 asciilifeform auto-appendektomy - like seppuku but double the work.
02:45 mircea_popescu well no. seppuku aims to open the large liver vein. apendectomy, oppositely, to not open it.
02:46 asciilifeform in historic overviews of seppuku, the thing that always caught my eye was the slow progression from honest full-out gut deposition to the late-meiji (and 20th c. - see herr mishima) token slice followed by 'kaishaku' beheading stroke.
02:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/whatever-happened-to-bitcoin-hint-nothing-good-cm381082 (linked earlier) << pure gold. these folks are in 'tilt mode.' <<< let the permanent record reflect why "Julian Close has been a business writer since the first day of the twenty-first century, having written for PRA International and the United Nations Department of Peacekeeping." won't be able to support his fambly la
02:47 assbot Whatever happened to Bitcoin? (Hint: nothing good) - NASDAQ.com
02:47 mircea_popescu ter this decade.
02:48 * asciilifeform hopes to live to see a spammer physically starve to death
02:48 * asciilifeform goes off to bed to dream of this dream
02:49 mircea_popescu speaking of spammer : "You can see closing trades for all Julian's long and short positions and track his long term performance via twitter: @JulianClose_MIC ."
02:49 mircea_popescu now try check out that acct. 100 followers, pixelated user pic...
02:49 mircea_popescu we're supposed to not know what astroturf means or something.
02:51 mircea_popescu http://www.fedsmith.com/2014/02/17/replacing-the-general-schedule-some-facts/ << stuff like this, incidentally, is subtly indicative of the usg failure. inasmuch as grand national-socialist schemes such as the gs are collapsing and being replaced, it's quite clear that in its quest to arrive at that "nobody can grow as much as a potato without asking for permission", the national-socialist government is moving away rat
02:51 assbot Replacing The General Schedule: Some Facts : FedSmith.com
02:51 mircea_popescu her than towards the target.
02:53 mircea_popescu but anyway, check out the lone GS-15 under age 24 in 2013.
02:53 mircea_popescu there were 3 gs-14 under 24 in 1998. fifteen years later, two left, the third was promoted.
02:53 mircea_popescu make a guess : is the third the best or the worst of the group of 3 ?
02:59 Bet created: "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/
03:00 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
03:00 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 468.39, Best ask: 474.85, Bid-ask spread: 6.46000, Last trade: 474.87, 24 hour volume: 15994.19071420, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 493.98, 24 hour vwap: 482.673562406
03:00 BingoBoingo %t
03:00 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 10k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 169
03:01 mircea_popescu wow sticky price huh.
03:01 mircea_popescu %d
03:01 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 197414.53 in 1880 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -89.49
03:02 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you never got around to getting that larger rig involved did you
03:02 mircea_popescu %[
03:02 mircea_popescu %p
03:02 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.31 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1466.02 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.82 TH/s
03:04 mircea_popescu here's a funny blast from the past :
03:04 mircea_popescu Aug 11 23:50:49 <gribble>Current Blocks: 193432 | Current Difficulty: 2036671.0886933 | Next Difficulty At Block: 193535 | Next Difficulty In: 103 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2183270.15599682 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.197974583
03:04 mircea_popescu bitcoin difficulty august 2012 was... about hte same as atc difficulty august 2014.
03:08 BingoBoingo lol I was thinking about that when I first rented a rig for ATC, that ~2 or 3 years ago there were times where all of Bitcoin's nethash was less than the rented rig's
03:09 BingoBoingo Back in the days when terrahash was a network "goal" and Petahashes were crazy
03:10 mircea_popescu mhm.
03:10 mircea_popescu i ... remember these days.
03:11 BingoBoingo I remember reading about Bitcoin those days, thinking one of these day's I'll grab a couple graphics cards. I wasn't thinking enough back then.
03:13 mircea_popescu im possibly one of the very few people not regretting not having started mining "earlier"
03:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00070262 = 15.809 BTC [-] {3}
03:16 BingoBoingo Oh I don't regret my lack of "mining," I regret thinking food as so valuable and not buying in grotesque quantity.
03:26 mircea_popescu lol
03:26 Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,989.
03:28 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/do-you-work-from-your-home-in-some-tropical-paradise-heres-a-breakfast-idea/
03:29 assbot [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 45 @ 0.022 = 0.99 BTC
03:30 cazalla took a moment
03:30 cazalla oh, tits
03:31 RagnarDanneskjol ( . Y . ) :D
03:32 BigBitz Tits are good.
03:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.00069971 = 23.3353 BTC [-] {3}
03:45 mircea_popescu lol http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/08/20/making-my-eulorian-cake-and-eating-it/
03:45 assbot Making My Eulorian Cake and Eating It in Ossasepia
03:45 mircea_popescu pankkake mebbe add that to the list ?
03:46 mircea_popescu not sure what the policy is there, "blogs by assets ppl" ? or "blogs about btc" ?
03:46 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo pls to send 1500 atc to 1FUneWXoi6eqC2p1F2rDrEsrApawPa9wCx ty.
03:49 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal: was this the first popular block explorer http://blockexplorer.com/ ? << popular no, but the first yes.
03:49 assbot Home - Bitcoin Block Explorer
03:50 BingoBoingo %tslb
03:50 atcbot 45 minutes and 37 seconds
03:53 mircea_popescu !up ryguy_`
03:54 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: On its way http://atc.blockr.io/zerotx/info/57d8b8d1bcc5aa0485564c1632e4835272c1b43d7219c565d2786bdeef3aad83
03:55 mircea_popescu ty.
03:55 ryguy_` tyty
03:55 mircea_popescu yw. so who're you ?
03:56 diana_coman thanks mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo
03:56 BingoBoingo You're welcome diana_coman
03:56 diana_coman the posts are just for fun, lol
03:56 mircea_popescu l
03:56 mircea_popescu o right, and bitcoin is for serious.
03:56 ryguy_` man of leisure turned wageslave to build a saas for businesses
03:56 diana_coman ahahaha, true
03:56 diana_coman for serious fun :p
03:57 mircea_popescu only seriously funny once someone loses an eye.
03:57 ryguy_` sneak a look at bitcoin stuffs when im taking a break
03:57 mircea_popescu ryguy_` now that's a transition.
03:57 ryguy_` what do you guys think of this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8200912
03:57 assbot Liberum Consilium: a system design for moderated deliberation [pdf] | Hacker News
03:57 mircea_popescu so you love saas so much, platonically, that you;ll abandon your hyperion-freedom to become a mere mortal for its sake ?
03:57 ryguy_` its like an identity, reputation, proposal (legislation, etc) system
03:57 mircea_popescu can it be not a pdf ?
03:58 ryguy_` yaaaaaa i know
03:58 mircea_popescu also, can it quote stuff like the wot, bitcoin assets and so on ?
03:58 ryguy_` you got some command line tools to deal with pdfs ?
03:58 mircea_popescu i deal with pdfs exactly like i deal with the tim swansons of the world. "who asked you anything and what gives you the impression you have something to answer with."
03:58 ryguy_` yeah i stumbled into it like 4 years ago still trying to shepard it to passive income land
03:59 ryguy_` needless to say i was unaware of btc, just getting my head back on my shoulders concering 2008 crash and what it really meant, etc
03:59 ryguy_` plus the powers that cant maintain their quo are making things real obvious right now
04:00 mircea_popescu helpful isn';t it.
04:00 ryguy_` anyway, yeah i'd rather be in a south american city screwing with btc but i got commitments like whats his face from the shining
04:00 mircea_popescu the irony of the situation is that with enemies like these, btc really doesn't need any friends.
04:00 ryguy_` are you talking about me or the link i pasted
04:00 ryguy_` or a third
04:00 mircea_popescu neither. " the powers that cant maintain their quo"
04:00 ryguy_` ahhhhh yeah haha
04:01 ryguy_` i love how some of the garbage intel agencies have the squid over the globe imagery
04:01 mircea_popescu amusingly, i think this was discussed.
04:01 ryguy_` so i wanted to make a blog called painful squid and highlight all the retarded shit they've been doing
04:01 mircea_popescu !s octopus
04:01 assbot 26 results for 'octopus' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=octopus
04:01 ryguy_` like
04:01 mircea_popescu not a bad idea. especially if you can get some wistleblown material.
04:02 ryguy_` germany resending their request for the gold from the fed
04:02 mircea_popescu like, a "terrible company" clone for usg, especially the intel stuff...
04:02 ryguy_` its kind of a hyped up, superficial situation
04:02 ryguy_` but it definitely falls in line with the saving of face thats being attempted
04:02 mircea_popescu TSA, Terrible Spy Agency blog.
04:02 mircea_popescu let people vent and rage about how much their employer suck
04:02 mircea_popescu how clueless management i
04:02 mircea_popescu how they don't do anything useful and so on
04:02 ryguy_` yeah i'd love to get quality info
04:02 ryguy_` put it up on a tor service or whatnot
04:03 mircea_popescu just use a htmlform pgp drop and a published key.
04:03 ryguy_` string together some openbsd boxes or grsec boxes and give it a go from afar in a 3rd world country
04:03 ryguy_` i dont trust the circlejerk psyops and stuff going on now though
04:03 ryguy_` spys spying on spys spying on spys
04:03 mircea_popescu anyone can send you w/e the shit they feel like. afaik that's how cryptome work
04:03 mircea_popescu s
04:03 ryguy_` cryptome says wikileaks was a intel agency job and assange is in the embassy collecting leaks on behalf of god knows who
04:04 mircea_popescu i think they just randomly publish anything.
04:04 ryguy_` rather let this thing fall to pieces and get in afterwards on the infowar stuff
04:04 ryguy_` yeah
04:05 ryguy_` well just in general, you got these other news papers with their leak drop boxes. im sure plenty of them are run by handled individuals. feel sorry for the unsavvy leaker at the moment
04:05 ryguy_` and snowden too, what a mindfuck. is it just a cia hit on the nsa for the budget ? who knows, who cares
04:06 ryguy_` btc is more productive than leaks because idont have what it takes to not get doxxed
04:06 ryguy_` for me
04:06 mircea_popescu works.
04:06 ryguy_` i do want a seat on your exchange, though
04:07 mircea_popescu well the good news is that they're still available.
04:07 ryguy_` but im writing 'all work and no play makes ryguy_` a dull boy' over and over so when im done with that i need to get my gpg keys in wot and all that
04:07 ryguy_` i thought it was infinite seats
04:07 mircea_popescu indeed.
04:07 ryguy_` nice man
04:07 ryguy_` math always saves me
04:08 ryguy_` cant wait until the slaves (sheep) ((our friends and family)) want a transparent ledger equities market
04:09 ryguy_` instead of the sigma 6 circus we got now
04:09 mircea_popescu nobody ever wanted that except for bona fide merchants
04:10 mircea_popescu the same types that push for 0% taxation.
04:10 mircea_popescu in fact, a good quality nyse is less likely than no tax.
04:10 ryguy_` oh yeah
04:11 ryguy_` you are preaching to the choir
04:12 ryguy_` im over the system and how it works and stuck on trying to help decently smart people understand whats going on
04:12 mircea_popescu it's what i do best!
04:12 ryguy_` i always give them an out with
04:12 ryguy_` "the FED might have been the best option we had at the time"
04:12 ryguy_` knowing that isnt true
04:13 mircea_popescu well in the sense stalin was the best option at the time, and hitler too.
04:13 BingoBoingo Well, the Fed was the best weapon for defeating the soviet union while turning into a worse soviet union
04:14 ryguy_` yeah
04:14 ryguy_` im over the geopolitics too
04:14 penguirker New blog post: http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/08/20/making-my-eulorian-cake-and-eating-it/
04:14 penguirker New blog post: http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/08/16/boxy-and-his-leaky-bottle/
04:14 ryguy_` zebig brezenski ruined it for me
04:14 ryguy_` as a kid i thought being a 'statesman' was a respectable thing
04:15 ryguy_` now a days im thinking
04:15 ryguy_` this asshole is running things with the kagans
04:15 ryguy_` its fun watching putin deflect like bruce lee with a hand behind his back
04:16 mircea_popescu well stateman is a respectable thing. not very many ones good at it left in teh west.
04:17 ryguy_` what kins of things do you guys see blockchain based equities/securities exchanges competing with eachother on in the future
04:18 ryguy_` network effect, standard nyse/nasdaq type shit thats going on now
04:18 ryguy_` (minus the fraud)
04:18 ryguy_` i think any good statesman would be sitting this current round (or incarnation) out
04:18 mircea_popescu prolly so.
04:19 ryguy_` i dont know much about the technicalities by way of how your service connects with btc but
04:19 ryguy_` do you think high frequency trading or polling type strategies would or will be prominent ?
04:20 ryguy_` i just wanna invest and execute trades for clients and ease everyoneeeee into a btc based stock market like warren benjamin graham
04:22 ryguy_` its hard to discern what is or is not related to the fraud, or a byproduct of the fraud going on now a days. Im open to the argument that hft creates liquidity but how much liquidity does a market need, ya know
04:23 BingoBoingo ;;google site:trilema.com high speed trading mpex
04:23 gribble BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) - Bitcoin Forum: <http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/print-page-bitbet-stole-7000-from-me-10-btc.htm>; Some basic discussion of Bitcoin macroeconomy pe Trilema - Un ...: <http://trilema.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-bitcoin-macroeconomy/>; The EVE online noob guide. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com (1 more message)
04:25 BingoBoingo !up ryguy_`
04:25 ryguy_` oh wow thanks
04:25 ryguy_` ok so yah im _quite_ familiar with bitcoin and things that take place on the blockchain
04:25 ryguy_` and how that would definitely not allow any hft stuff to go down
04:27 ryguy_` anyway. bigtime respectable thing you guys got going on here. especially the trash talking which is just brilliant. and settling with the SEC, wth. i cant even really find any reading on that SEC issue though
04:27 mircea_popescu ryguy_`> do you think high frequency trading or polling type strategies would or will be prominent ? < in a word, no.
04:28 mircea_popescu ryguy_` short version : guy retired his mpex issue. sec desperately wanted to purchase some relevance, so they tied some blown glbse/twitter offering he had with the mpex offering, and pretended like they scored some sort of victory.
04:29 mircea_popescu this is so transparently ridiculous half the bureaucracy is laughing at them, leaving aside wall street and the people not actually involved in the us nuthouse.
04:29 mircea_popescu but hey, working for the govt means you gotta eat the shit you gotta eat.
04:29 ryguy_` i worked at a firm and we had to keep all the records incase the SEC guys showed up
04:31 ryguy_` so this dude just gave back some kind of equity shares in mpex or a listed company like a retired couple gives back a condo timeshare
04:31 ryguy_` he conducted some other transaction and SEC claimed those shares were apart of that other transaction ?
04:31 mircea_popescu mkay, it's like so. guy made a "feedzebirds" thing, which he listed on glbse, which simply imploded.
04:32 ryguy_` yeah
04:32 mircea_popescu guy listed sd on mpex. about a year later, he claimed someone bought it and so it was delisted. mpex shareholders received a negotiated, fair compensation and it was the end of the matter.
04:32 mircea_popescu the sec got a 20k settlement for the former, and is pretending it got a settlement for the pair.
04:33 mircea_popescu this is fine, inasmuch as it has no ill effect and increases the general supply of lulz,
04:33 mircea_popescu which in the end is what backs bitcoin.
04:33 ryguy_` haha
04:34 mircea_popescu point in case.
04:34 ryguy_` hay, man
04:36 mircea_popescu !up guest87345
04:38 ryguy_` i cant wait for title insurance companies to go busto
04:38 ryguy_` and the govt to eat shit - gonna be great
04:39 ryguy_` wish i had your skillset, man. or wish i put the effort in like you did, my dad and his grandfather we're both follower backoffice managers for wallstreet comapnies and growing up i thought financial markets were the most boring shit in the world until 2008 & bitcoin
04:41 mircea_popescu nothing is boring if done well.
04:41 ryguy_` yeah ive been coming around to that more and more at the ripe age of 30
04:42 ryguy_` 18-26 was all deprogramming myself from what i'd been taught, if i knew i was deprogramming it or not
04:46 ryguy_` thank god for the internet - i dont think i'd ever have come around to realize 'fiat = war machine' among all the other things without it or a patient individual to walk me though it
04:46 ryguy_` without the internet, that is. i've been awake for far too long to make sense.
04:46 mircea_popescu well, no game without a good pvp component is ultimately woth playing
04:47 mircea_popescu everything worth doing is a war machine.
04:47 ryguy_` yeah shit is definitely a dualistic world
04:48 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC to rally to $4000 before July 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1026/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.3399 BTC. Current weight: 99,330.
04:48 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.12 BTC. Current weight: 99,956.
04:48 ryguy_` doesnt take long to realize that information really is $$$$ in this day in age from a number of angles
04:49 ryguy_` and not in some faux big data bullshit kind of way
04:52 ryguy_` what a wimper http://feedzebirds.com/
04:52 assbot 403 Forbidden
05:02 jurov i like how * has own entry in stats.bitcoin-assets.com
05:14 BingoBoingo !up ryguy_`
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05:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4760 @ 0.00069949 = 3.3296 BTC [-]
05:35 RagnarDanneskjol http://hackaday.com/2014/08/19/open-source-gpu-released/
05:35 assbot Open Source GPU Released
05:37 kdomanski !down assbot
05:38 mircea_popescu why so mean
05:38 kdomanski I would be funny if you could do that
05:38 kdomanski *uit
05:38 kdomanski *it
05:38 kdomanski damn beer
05:39 punkman http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=Wellington_Bomber
05:39 assbot Wellington Bomber - DocuWiki
05:40 punkman pretty impressive
05:41 RagnarDanneskjol wow 23 hrs
05:53 punkman http://www.airpowerworld.info/bombers/damaged-wellington-bomber.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/B-17_Damage_Cologne.jpg
05:59 mircea_popescu http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5838333/Shameless-couple-have-sex-on-crowded-beach-in-Magaluf.html win.
05:59 assbot Shameless couple have sex on crowded beach in Magaluf | The Sun |News
06:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00070293 = 23.6184 BTC [+]
06:09 punkman mircea_popescu: heh noobs, should have gone to deeper water
06:09 mircea_popescu i suspek a noob is you. they're too deep as it is, seawater is corrosive and in any case a girl goop solvent.
06:13 punkman mircea_popescu: definitely not somethin to do for 40 minutes
06:13 mircea_popescu ikr?
06:13 mircea_popescu actually thinking about this... i suspek the sun may be not telling the truth as it is
06:13 punkman but a quickie while trying to keep afloat, that's pretty fun
06:14 mircea_popescu helps if she has decent buoys.
06:16 cazalla sand in vagina?
06:16 mircea_popescu yeah i don't get this entire do it at the beach thing.
06:16 mircea_popescu i get the do it in public thing, and do it in public to girls you just met thing,
06:17 punkman what's wrong with the beach?
06:17 mircea_popescu but gimme a fucking ottoman for her to faceplant on, a cushion, something.
06:17 mircea_popescu punkman sand. salty water. too hot.
06:17 mircea_popescu ever saw snails fuck on the hot asphalt under the sun ?
06:18 cazalla i did it at the beach with my first gf and it was nothing like the movies
06:18 punkman hah
06:19 mircea_popescu cazalla i did it with a bunch of pron chicks.
06:19 mircea_popescu it... also was nothing like the movies they made.
06:19 mircea_popescu i do not credit the theory this has to be because of me. it must be something else.
06:20 punkman well last time I found some nice flat rocks under shade, worked out pretty good, with the nice sea breeze and all
06:20 mircea_popescu was she on her back or on her knees ?
06:22 punkman there's even more options!
06:22 punkman next time I'm bringing a foam mattress
06:22 mircea_popescu my point being that in the former case her ventral hip bone will rub her skin raw
06:22 mircea_popescu whereas in the latter, knees.
06:24 cazalla rocks sound even worse tbh
06:24 punkman better than sand
06:24 mircea_popescu s/ventral/dorsal but anyway
06:24 punkman http://i.imgur.com/DRRKbHw.jpg
06:24 cazalla slip, gash your hands open on oyster shells or something
06:25 mircea_popescu nice beach/natural port tho
06:25 Bet placed: 1.167089 BTC for No on "Gold will close above USD 2000 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/759/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 33(Y):67(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.115571 BTC. Current weight: 35,706.
06:27 cazalla pankkake, is that you?
06:27 cazalla sorry, punkman
06:28 cazalla because that guy looks like he has some a cup titties
06:28 mircea_popescu comments appreciation day : http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ possibly the most re-read comment section on trilema.
06:28 assbot A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
06:28 mircea_popescu re-read by me i mean. i think it's like the 6th or so time
06:30 punkman cazalla: lol, I see it now
06:30 punkman no that's just another dude
06:31 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BitPay closed before the end of the year" http://bitbet.us/bet/757/ Odds: 39(Y):61(N) by coin, 48(Y):52(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.75346298 BTC. Current weight: 36,457.
06:39 punkman btw first time I saw so many cameras at a nudist beach. always thought it a bit of a faux pas
06:41 RagnarDanneskjol think it varies per region
06:41 mircea_popescu twenty years ago it was an outrage.
06:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12740 @ 0.00070201 = 8.9436 BTC [-]
06:41 mircea_popescu today, nude people generally expect to be filmed and get depressed if apparently nobody cares.
06:45 RagnarDanneskjol does anyone know the appx current size of ATC's blockchain (in GBs)? I know i could just look @ the blockcount & calculate, can't too late for maths
06:45 punkman RagnarDanneskjol: there's like 3 transactions total, shouldn't be too big
06:46 Apocalyptic RagnarDanneskjol, I have 55 MB
06:46 RagnarDanneskjol I could have sworn I saw more than that, but wow ok
06:46 RagnarDanneskjol nice, thank
06:47 mircea_popescu what gbs ? like 50 mb yteah
06:47 pankkake I have 49M, though my data is a few days late
06:47 Apocalyptic I may have included the wallet size too
06:47 mircea_popescu lol
06:47 mircea_popescu "i may have also included some vacation pics&tits"
06:47 Apocalyptic heh
06:47 pankkake bernankoin is 683M. take that
06:49 mircea_popescu yeah but you got all that 3d printing equipment.
06:49 RagnarDanneskjol pankkake I'm working on another blockexplorer for it, will send you email detailing shortly
06:50 pankkake why me?
06:50 RagnarDanneskjol cause you are the only other one on the git, figured you're the guy
06:50 pankkake for updating the web page you should contact ThickAsThieves
06:51 nubbins` ben_vulpes:<nubbins`> how about the marijuana supports terr.. oh, wait` << from a conversation with a client earlier today: "pot makes you stupid! if my son keeps smoking, i'm going to cut him off." <<< ahh my sides
06:51 nubbins` "i'm going to cut him off"
06:51 nubbins` "it's the recreational drug use that's making him stupid, not hanging off daddy's golden teat"
06:52 mircea_popescu <pankkake> why me? << that's what she said.
06:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33922 @ 0.00069703 = 23.6447 BTC [-] {3}
06:52 RagnarDanneskjol ha - pankkake - I don't really care about the webpage, thought you were developing for it - or is it just Thieves?
06:53 pankkake I changed a few values to make it like the coingen settings
06:53 mircea_popescu nobody is really developing for atc. pankkake helped with a bunch of stuff as i think the first guy with a clue to get involved.
06:53 RagnarDanneskjol okee
06:53 pankkake however, as true altcoin developer, I had no idea what I was doing
06:53 RagnarDanneskjol ha
06:53 punkman %d
06:54 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 198881.78 in 1878 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -89.41
06:54 punkman looks like it'll be months before diff change
06:55 RagnarDanneskjol maybe I'm missing something, how are there no txs - thought it was being used for WoL
06:55 mircea_popescu 1880 at 10:02 1878 at 13:54 a dozen or so a day, like five m0onths :D
06:55 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol there are a few, just not so many, so it's a common joke.
06:55 Apocalyptic <RagnarDanneskjol> maybe I'm missing something, how are there no txs // there are plenty
06:55 RagnarDanneskjol ok thought so
06:56 punkman RagnarDanneskjol: WoL board moves on each block, not much betting to be done right now
06:56 RagnarDanneskjol i see
06:57 mircea_popescu it actually found 12 blocks in the past ~16 hours, so like 100 days at the current rate.
06:57 mircea_popescu %p
06:57 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.06 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1459.91 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.07 TH/s
06:58 mircea_popescu hm. whtf is happening thar tho.
06:58 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo hey, did X-Rob's rig die or something ?
06:58 BingoBoingo It must be down
06:59 mircea_popescu ding ding X-Rob! IMA DOCK YA!
07:00 BingoBoingo http://coinminer.net:19982/static/ << chart
07:00 assbot _-=* CoinMiner Pool *=-_
07:03 RagnarDanneskjol I could be wrong, but something tells me that is a pool issue
07:04 RagnarDanneskjol is ATC the only coin they have active? all other coin pages are non-existent
07:04 mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol something as in what ?
07:05 RagnarDanneskjol lots of experience fukin with pools
07:06 RagnarDanneskjol and all the other coins pages are not live
07:07 RagnarDanneskjol https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197906.msg5870328#msg5870328
07:07 assbot [Pool] _-=* CoinMiner Pool *=-_ 42 http://coinminer.net:19991/
07:07 BingoBoingo Well it seems to be reporting 60 GH/s in other hash on the pool
07:07 RagnarDanneskjol I get no datqa received for tht page
07:08 BingoBoingo ?
07:09 RagnarDanneskjol browser says "No data received"
07:10 mircea_popescu odd.
07:12 BingoBoingo I see a page that when you scroll down a bit has this chart https://imgur.com/7bhRyjD
07:12 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
07:12 RagnarDanneskjol google coinminer pool - first hit after the forum links straight to ATC pool - all the other coin tabs on top of that page lead me to dead links -I'm almost certain thats the only coin being mined there - unless I'm missing something
07:13 RagnarDanneskjol right I see that too
07:13 RagnarDanneskjol all other coin pools are not there I believe
07:16 RagnarDanneskjol ahh - found something other than ATC - http://coinminer.net:7903/static/
07:16 assbot p2pool
07:16 pankkake I've had issues with that pool
07:17 RagnarDanneskjol p2pools always seem to have issues - what was yours?
07:19 pankkake I was mining but it was rejecting my submissions, or maybe just not registering them. I forgot
07:19 RagnarDanneskjol slow/inconsistent shares are to be expected unless you have 100% uptime
07:20 pankkake yeah, I know
07:21 BingoBoingo It was picked because it seemed to suck least for the purpose here, and getting paid in the coinbase tx makes it easy to verify payments
07:22 RagnarDanneskjol I know more than a few highly competent pool hosts if this one proves unreliable
07:23 RagnarDanneskjol I could almost do it myself, but not quite
07:23 BingoBoingo Well, it's worked so far which is a timeline which stretches back to... this past weekend
07:23 RagnarDanneskjol OH
07:23 BingoBoingo I mean the pool is much older than that
07:24 RagnarDanneskjol I see
07:24 BingoBoingo It's just since ATC stalled out it was the only pool that was responsive to our rented hash
07:24 RagnarDanneskjol gotcha - I'll work on that
07:25 BingoBoingo And the p2pool type paying with the coinbase tx is very desirable, if it were replaced or needed to be replaced, that is a thing I'd like to see
07:25 RagnarDanneskjol sure
07:32 BingoBoingo For now though it seems the simplest explanation is prolly the rig's down
07:32 BingoBoingo Byt X-Rob explained there's some stuff this pool does that isn't optimal... so a replacement wouldn't be horrible down the line
07:32 BingoBoingo X-rob would have to explain what the not-quite optimal stuff is
07:33 RagnarDanneskjol I'd almost bet $ its the pool, but are they not one in the same provider?
07:34 RagnarDanneskjol i could point some hardwarev there myself to test later today
07:38 mircea_popescu !up cardigm
07:38 mircea_popescu <RagnarDanneskjol> I know more than a few highly competent pool hosts if this one proves unreliable << so hook something up
07:38 nubbins` ahahahaha, http://imgur.com/gallery/4vCAr
07:38 assbot Ice Bucket Challenge Gone Wrong - Imgur
07:38 nubbins` amazing how few people understand physics and gravity
07:38 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
07:38 nubbins` "maybe if i push this heavy object off a rail, it'll upend itself for some reason"
07:39 mircea_popescu nubbins` that first fucktard... jesus god she's bleeding from the tits
07:39 mircea_popescu quick, a badaid, a pastie ,s omething
07:39 mircea_popescu god forbid the internet sees anon nipple or something, someone may care
07:39 mircea_popescu she'll be turned down for employment and dental insurance.
07:39 mircea_popescu her children will catch the gout.
07:39 nubbins` heh
07:39 nubbins` the best is the third one
07:39 nubbins` where the guy drops a 50lb weight on his daughter's heads
07:39 RagnarDanneskjol I already suggested a few a while back when this discussion first took place. I will gather my list and get it all ready later today
07:40 mircea_popescu cnat even find someone to dump water on her head, figures someone gives a shit about her tits.
07:40 nubbins` ahhh i can't breathe
07:40 mircea_popescu omfg
07:41 RagnarDanneskjol http://www.livechains.net/ is first that comes to mind
07:41 assbot LiveChains UK
07:42 cazalla fire challenge is better imo
07:43 mircea_popescu assfucking challenge is best.
07:43 nubbins` http://imgur.com/W2M2s1w
07:43 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
07:43 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: From ther faq
07:43 BingoBoingo What are Tilera and Arbor
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07:43 BingoBoingo in cumque.
07:44 chetty <mircea_popescu> cnat even find someone to dump water on her head, figures someone gives a shit about her tits.//problem is of course that they do, at least next time she wants a job or smthn
07:44 mircea_popescu in trhat case the problem is them. but srsly...
07:44 mircea_popescu if my job were to screen all applicants for possible interwebs exposure...
07:45 chetty well yeah its their problem but still not gonna get that job ...
07:45 mircea_popescu i can't tell these people apart. unless she starts writing her gpg fingerprint on her boobs nobody can tell her from eve.
07:45 mircea_popescu could you say if this animated gif is this irl girl or not ?
07:46 chetty I am sure there are people that can, the data collection monster knows all (well almost)
07:46 mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/lLkFmLV.gif << someone explain this ?
07:46 mircea_popescu chetty not out of 200x200 px srsly.
07:46 RagnarDanneskjol BoingoBoingo - they just switched to a new template for their page and clearly are off their game. I and several others have hired them in the past (going back over a year ago) and they deliver pools as described... I think they have p2pool also, but dont see listed
07:47 nubbins` mircea_popescu that's actually not water, but a super-slippery fluid with almost zero friction coefficient
07:47 nubbins` the other two girls have gecko feet
07:47 nubbins` or they're wearing crocs
07:48 mircea_popescu or they're you know, the sort of brainstem limited derps that'd be on facebook.
07:50 RagnarDanneskjol BoingoBoingo - Im gonna call them right now to figure out their status (phone #s on the page)
07:53 BingoBoingo RagnarDanneskjol: Oh, cool
07:54 RagnarDanneskjol talkin - they picked right up
07:54 RagnarDanneskjol wow
08:03 RagnarDanneskjol Ok - I spoke to Mark with his charming british acent -they are a little backlogged, but can deliver pools in 36-48 hours, also offer cloud mining contracts. These guys are fukin pro.. Imma follow up with email to you guys w/ details. Worth giving them a call just to hear what they're up to.
08:03 RagnarDanneskjol they can do p2pool or whatever you need
08:03 BingoBoingo Interesting
08:04 RagnarDanneskjol they came highly recommended from the LA bitcoin regulars - heard of them a year ago and used them myself for a small test pool a ways back
08:06 RagnarDanneskjol once pools are setup, the backend control panel stuff is super simple to manage yourself
08:08 BingoBoingo %p
08:08 atcbot [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.06 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1356.06 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.68 TH/s
08:09 BingoBoingo !up Duffer1
08:13 mircea_popescu http://cynic.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/bitcoin-laws-of-the-universe.jpg
08:13 mircea_popescu not so bad, which one of you is it ?
08:16 HeySteve hi
08:16 BingoBoingo Hi
08:17 novusordo http://guardianlv.com/2014/08/bitcoin-expands-as-stock-price-falls/
08:17 assbot Bitcoin Expands as Stock Price Falls (Update)
08:17 HeySteve mircea_popescu the slogan points to woodwallets.io
08:21 HeySteve novusordo from that link "Coinbase is an international digital wallet" - not truly int'l as nations sanctioned by USG are excluded
08:33 punkman "As Bitcoin expands across the world and their stock price falls to historic lows on Wall Street, crypto-currency remains one that is open to everyone."
08:33 punkman lol
08:36 nubbins` mp, nice graphic
08:36 nubbins` are you sure that's not an egg being fertilized? ;D
08:44 mircea_popescu HeySteve universal is much better than "international"
08:44 mircea_popescu as afaik no nation has yet been recognised by the blockchain, and so...
08:45 mircea_popescu nubbins` well as sure as you can ever be when eggs fertilisation comes into play.
08:45 mircea_popescu novusordo hey there.
08:45 nubbins` !up aspho
08:45 nubbins` !up pleego
08:46 mircea_popescu !up bertani_
08:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33710 @ 0.00069723 = 23.5036 BTC [+] {2}
08:49 aspho Oh, thanks nubbins.
09:01 BingoBoingo !up The20YearIRCloud
09:01 nubbins` np
09:01 The20YearIRCloud hi
09:08 aspho Been reading the logs for the last long time, before coming here. Learning the variety speak.
09:09 mircea_popescu hows that coming along ?
09:10 aspho Pretty good, still a lot of archives to cover.
09:16 nubbins` !up aspho
09:17 assbot usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5
09:18 aspho Thanks nubbins but gotta run, back later tonight.
09:20 nubbins` hahah
09:20 nubbins` lel @ usagi
09:20 nubbins` ;;gettrust assbot usagi
09:20 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask usagi!~tsukino22@unaffiliated/tsukino. Trust relationship from user assbot to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012
09:21 kakobrekla !up usagi
09:21 usagi thanks. I wanted to ask aspho a question heh, but thanks
09:28 usagi So, anyone into Django Reinhardt"?
09:29 usagi Some of his work with Beryl Davis is my favorite
09:32 nubbins` https://myspace.com/shitloadoftits/music/song/jango-purdy-live-1017320-1032704
09:33 nubbins` if only he'd worked with bernard purdy ;(
09:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6990 @ 0.00069748 = 4.8754 BTC [+]
09:35 usagi What genre would you call that? sounds a little funky
09:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00069553 = 8.2768 BTC [-] {2}
09:36 nubbins` usagi, i think they call it "math rock"
09:36 nubbins` i bought the rights to their first album yesterday :0
09:37 nubbins` these are really early recordings, from before they even had a bass player
09:37 nubbins` https://myspace.com/shitloadoftits/music/song/there-she-was-gone-live-1017322-1032706
09:38 usagi the rights? so your into music then
09:38 * nubbins` nods
09:39 novusordo mircea_popescu hiya
09:42 usagi Most of the music I like is so old the copyright has expired
09:43 mircea_popescu copyright covers performance you ninny. unless you're listening to an amphora capture of original greek choruses, it's covered alright.
09:43 usagi I would imagine thats why he bought the rights
09:44 usagi So for example he could then play the music in a venue that didn't purchase cover song licensing
09:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 210 @ 0.00275952 = 0.5795 BTC [-] {5}
09:44 nubbins` actually, i bought the rights so i could re-release the album
09:45 usagi You must really like these guys hehe
09:45 * nubbins` nods
09:46 nubbins` amazing album from a band that's on the top-five list of every music lover in the city
09:46 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
09:47 nubbins` and they broke up two weeks after they released it, so there were only ~25 copies ever bought
09:48 mircea_popescu and yet you look nothing like john cussack
09:49 nubbins` haha
09:49 nubbins` above the collar, sure
09:49 usagi I plan to get into music a lot more once I retire
09:49 nubbins` why wait? and also, i thought we were all retired?
09:49 usagi My job is exhausting.
09:49 mircea_popescu yeah who let the unretired in!
09:49 nubbins` ^
09:50 mircea_popescu this is the internet house of old people AND GIT OFF MA LAWNS
09:50 nubbins` your job is exhausting, so you can't listen to music to unwind? :/
09:50 nubbins` !up aspho
09:50 usagi I mean playing music. I am split between the piano and the guitar
09:50 nubbins` ah
09:50 usagi I really, really like both instruments. I'll probably end up with piano
09:50 mircea_popescu nubbins` reminds me of the woman that claimed she can'tr fuck because migraine
09:50 mircea_popescu as if that's not the exact and only cure.
09:51 nubbins` dude, you ever masturbate with a headache? once you cum it's SO MUCH WORSE
09:51 mircea_popescu not for guys
09:51 mircea_popescu real men don't get headaches.
09:51 mircea_popescu no head to ache.
09:52 mircea_popescu (also i dont recall the last time i jacked off)
09:52 nubbins` !up usagi
09:52 nubbins` ;o
09:53 nubbins` fun fact, magic mushrooms are an effective treatment for cluster migraines
09:53 mircea_popescu people ridicule the every sperm is sacred doods, and i can see it
09:53 mircea_popescu but i tell you... seems such a waste.
09:54 nubbins` ah, man and his symbols
09:55 mircea_popescu more like nude practicality. i cant keep up with the girls anyway, why make it worse.
09:57 * nubbins` claps softly
09:58 chetty you havent lived till you have had Coital cephalalgia
09:59 nubbins` hah
09:59 mircea_popescu that, a glass eye and a spastic colon ?
09:59 nubbins` i thought we all had spastic colons?
10:00 chetty is a rare type of severe headache that occurs at the base of the skull before orgasm during sexual activity
10:11 nubbins` hmm, i have a jar of almond butter that's been recalled due to salmonella risk
10:16 mod6 oh cool, mpex.co is back
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10:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00069671 = 10.0326 BTC [+]
10:35 pete_dushenski ;;bc,stats
10:35 gribble Current Blocks: 316642 | Current Difficulty: 2.38446700388033E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 318527 | Next Difficulty In: 1885 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 9 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 26952826341.6 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.03501
10:36 pete_dushenski ;;ticker
10:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 499.92, Best ask: 501.98, Bid-ask spread: 2.06000, Last trade: 501.99, 24 hour volume: 15603.05805411, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 502.95, 24 hour vwap: 484.781556984
10:36 pete_dushenski o hey 500
10:37 BingoBoingo I'm a bit behind, is 500 rising or crashing?
10:37 HeySteve rising, about $30 in 8 hours
10:39 pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/501880092407398401
10:39 assbot Important read on randomness and Kolmogorov complexity: http://t.co/7GvlEz0Q6F This is why entropy matters: http://t.co/Gd6urFTU2s
10:49 HeySteve https://www.deckbound.com/invest
10:49 assbot Deckbound -- digital collectible trading card games built on top of the Bitcoin blockchain
10:55 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: and by too clean i mean the sort that doesn't bareback random whores because "who knows what may happen" << this point has me reflecting. am i scanning the world of business ideas for puuurfect? when non-broken will suffice? well fuck.
10:57 pete_dushenski decimation: heh perhaps I should pick an orthogonal basis << there's always the ol' first_last!
11:00 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: 'homo redditicus' << lulz. let's make this term canonical
11:02 pankkake what's wrong with redditard?
11:02 pankkake http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=redditard great description btw
11:02 assbot Urban Dictionary: redditard
11:03 pete_dushenski really, nothing
11:03 pete_dushenski less scientific, less gay jokey
11:03 pankkake "One must always be aware that their fodder for arguments consists of internet memes and attempts at being witty" same goes for twitter, not that you could do anything else there
11:04 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: the students are asked to simply memorize the book of, e.g, organic reactions. << myeah. tis perfect med skool prep
11:08 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: more 'weedout' than prep
11:09 pete_dushenski well 'prep' in the sense that if you can't memorize the bible in latin, med school will rape you
11:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00069534 = 7.0925 BTC [-]
11:10 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: the interesting part of that thread was that, afaik, there isn't anywhere you can go in usa to study 'proper' chemistry
11:10 asciilifeform (other than a library)
11:11 pete_dushenski right. a concept which stretches across much of university
11:12 nubbins` <- CS degree, wrote exactly two working programs as part of my CS curriculum
11:12 pete_dushenski mistaking them for learning institutions is how you end up 29 yo and single
11:12 pete_dushenski and on tinder
11:13 nubbins` is that the app that lets you anonymously tell women you want to cum on their tits?
11:13 asciilifeform nubbins`: we had actual program-writing (os, compiler, busloads of data structure crud, etc.)
11:13 nubbins` asciilifeform jealous :/
11:13 asciilifeform nah 'tinder' should be an app where you sign up to burn on the stake.
11:13 nubbins` hey, this printer stopped mid-page with an out-of-ink warning. i fixed the problem, and it's picking up where it left off.
11:13 nubbins` have never seen this in action before :0
11:15 pete_dushenski nubbins`: tinder is grindr for straight pplz
11:15 nubbins` is grindr that app that lets you anonymously tell men you want to cum on their tits?
11:15 pete_dushenski sorta "hi please to hook up with me based on glamour shots from when i was 5 years younger"
11:15 pankkake tinder isn't anonymous, it requires facebook
11:15 pete_dushenski nubbins`: lol yup
11:16 pankkake and a smartphone
11:16 pete_dushenski now there's a market: anonymous smartphone apps!
11:17 mike_c ;;later tell RagnarDanneskjol are you working on an ATC block explorer?
11:17 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 117 @ 0.00600099 = 0.7021 BTC [+]
11:20 pete_dushenski decimation: 'pep rally' << been to a few of these myself. because morale! at least our school had the bestest cheerleaders in the city
11:21 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kAXcIlA1MI (unrelated)
11:21 assbot Video Oddities Ep 77 - Chad VanGaalen's Molten Light - YouTube
11:21 pete_dushenski ;;later tell mircea_popescu more on the fasting http://contravex.com/2014/08/17/who-are-we-not-nationals/#comment-4734
11:21 assbot Who Are We? Not Nationals | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski
11:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:22 pete_dushenski 17 comments: a record is me
11:23 pankkake https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2014/08/an-interesting-paper-on-calorie-restriction.php (didn't read)
11:23 assbot An Interesting Paper on Calorie Restriction
11:25 pete_dushenski pankkake: we're trying to tease apart the research on calorie restriction and that on fasting, but still interesting
11:26 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: at the time in question, you literally could not go on a date if you sucked in school. << sounds like some kind of miracle land compared to the anti-intellectual "i are sportsstar" culture here
11:30 nubbins` asciilifeform, i'm a huge chad vangaalen fan
11:31 nubbins` why's the audio so shit on this version?
11:31 nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLw5b70OJH8
11:31 assbot Chad VanGaalen - Molten Light (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - YouTube
11:32 assbot usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5
11:32 asciilifeform !up usagi
11:33 usagi For me, one of the most interesting features of a water fast is that your body will cut down on it's extraneous muscle mass as well as body fat. I will have to try it one of these days
11:33 usagi When I read that it gave me a number of ideas
11:33 nubbins` "extraneous muscle mass"
11:33 usagi I mean it sounds obvious, but actually, the way in which the body goes about reducing it's muscle mass is something which is fascinating to me
11:34 asciilifeform kurt godel was a master of 'caloric restriction'
11:35 nubbins` asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZWfE2dPFSo
11:35 assbot Shave My Pussy - Chad VanGaalen - YouTube
11:36 usagi Well nubbins when I say that I mean certain things about opposing muscle tension
11:36 usagi It's some random sports medicine stuff I am studying
11:40 * nubbins` feigns interest
11:40 nubbins` oh, no way? cool
11:40 usagi Yea it has to do with your body overcompensating for keeping it's balance (for example) by adding extra muscle mass to groups of muscles in reciprocal inhibition, mass you don't need and which interferes with your motion
11:41 usagi My theory is if you perform certain kinds of exercises your body will cut out the extraneous muscle mass inhibiting your motion and you will be able to move/respond quicker using less energy. Useful for sports
11:42 usagi I also imagine the restriction would also allow you to increase or reduce the ratio of fast twitch fibres, because theoretically the body wouldn't toss out muscle mass which is being frequently used
11:52 thestringpuller usagi uh, it has more to do with flexibility of ligiments
11:52 thestringpuller nubbins`: we acceot
11:53 * nubbins` scrolls backwards to quote
11:53 thestringpuller accept your offer. can we discuss terms today?
11:53 nubbins` sure, i'm back and forth here for the next hour or so
11:53 thestringpuller lemme see if i can get the designer on the line
11:54 nubbins` how many did ya want, 6 or 12?
11:54 nubbins` or ___?
11:55 * jurov google pep rally
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 46 @ 0.0127 = 0.5842 BTC [-]
11:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 13.25936164 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1153 satoshi per share
12:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 28.45581781 BTC to 14`329 shares, 198589 satoshi per share
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.51099305 BTC to 14`329 shares, 10545 satoshi per share
12:07 thestringpuller nubbins`: desogner is walking to class. so in about 30 minutes he will be here
12:08 nubbins` no sweat
12:08 nubbins` not really much to go over. graphics in vector format, preferably .AI with spot colors
12:08 nubbins` 300dpi+ psd files grudgingly accepted
12:08 thestringpuller LOL
12:11 BingoBoingo http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/mya_aaten-white_shooting_victim_from_aug_12_says_police_have_not_interviewed_her.php
12:11 assbot Mya Aaten-White, Ferguson Shooting Victim, Says Police Have Not Interviewed Her | Riverfront Times
12:14 TomServo hey hey hey, shit in StL is too serious - we need to focus on beheaded journalists now.
12:14 nubbins` ^
12:14 BingoBoingo "We want to find out who and what agency took possession of the bullet," he said. "We want to identify who was responsible for firing the weapon that ended up with a bullet being lodged in the front of Mya's head."
12:14 BingoBoingo When we spoke with him several hours later, the story just got weirder.
12:14 BingoBoingo "I've talked to both the St. Louis County Police Department and Ferguson...they have no record...no file number, no report," he said. "They don't have anything."
12:15 nubbins` yeah, don't you dummies realize a white guy was killed the other day?
12:15 nubbins` BingoBoingo: the hospital would have taken note of who took the bullet, no?
12:16 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Might be time to break out the aluminum foil
12:16 BingoBoingo Makes pretty wallpaper
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12:32 pete_dushenski http://www.nophone.eu
12:32 assbot noPhone. A technology-free alternative to constant hand-to-phone contact.
12:32 pete_dushenski "With a thin, light and completely wireless design, the noPhone acts as a surrogate to any smart mobile device, enabling you to always have a rectangle of smooth, cold plastic to clutch without forgoing any potential engagement with your direct environment. Never again experience the unsettling feeling of flesh on flesh when closing your hand. "
12:33 pete_dushenski lulz
12:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 555 @ 0.00119996 = 0.666 BTC [+]
12:34 nubbins` Q: for those of us with metal-and-glass phones, is there an alternative to the classic noPhone? plastic is yucky.
12:34 pete_dushenski that's a premium upgrade
12:34 nubbins` ah
12:36 pete_dushenski as bugs bunny used to say "that's all folks!"
12:43 thestringpuller !up petepolack
12:43 thestringpuller nubbins`: you still there?
12:43 thestringpuller petepolack is the designer
12:53 nubbins` hi
12:53 thestringpuller one second he is getting in WoT
12:53 thestringpuller ;)
12:53 thestringpuller one of us one of us
12:54 nubbins` heh
12:55 thestringpuller kay he needs to get to class
12:55 thestringpuller he will log in when he gets there
12:55 thestringpuller be back in 10
12:56 nubbins` i'm outta time, maybe we can reconnect tomorrow
12:56 nubbins` unless he has specific questions for me, there's not a lot to discuss anyway
12:58 thestringpuller okay can we email you gpg encrypted AI file and then go from there?
12:58 thestringpuller then you can send us gpg signed invoice in BTC?
12:58 thestringpuller We want 6 shirts
12:58 thestringpuller 1 color
12:58 thestringpuller black
12:58 thestringpuller and white ink
12:58 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29841998 = 2.9842 BTC [+] {2}
12:58 nubbins` sure
12:59 thestringpuller kay we'll talk to you tomorrow then and get everything paid for
12:59 nubbins` gotta admit you've piqued my curiosity as to why you'd gpg encrypt graphics
12:59 thestringpuller I'll pay entirety up front
12:59 thestringpuller *shrug* paranoia
12:59 nubbins` i'm not printing hatespeech on a shirt for you ;p
12:59 thestringpuller oh no
12:59 nubbins` heh
12:59 thestringpuller i guess we just don't want the image to "leak"
12:59 thestringpuller ?
12:59 thestringpuller only you should be recipient
13:00 nubbins` pm'd you email address for graphics
13:00 thestringpuller "intended recipient" blah blah
13:00 thestringpuller kay
13:00 nubbins` grab my key from the wot
13:00 thestringpuller yea!
13:00 thestringpuller cool well talk to you tomorrow then
13:00 nubbins` k, peace
13:02 thestringpuller !up petepolack
13:07 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/FlBSBcO.gif
13:08 nubbins` STOP RESISTING ARREST
13:09 X-Rob mircea_popescu: The pool died, it switched to my backup pool, and then didn't switch back automatically when the pool got better.
13:09 mike_c ;;calc 3056 * 0.0001
13:09 gribble 0.3056
13:09 X-Rob Have fixed it, hopefully it won't do it again. Sorry.
13:10 mike_c my computer is retarded. 3056 / 10000 = 0.3056, but 3056 * 0.0001 = 0.30560000000004
13:10 thestringpuller petepolack: okay now we register
13:10 thestringpuller ;;eregister
13:10 gribble (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase (1 more message)
13:10 thestringpuller soo ;;eregister petepolack YOURKEYID
13:11 petepolack (eregister petepolack D4ECFBB385737831)
13:11 petepolack :(
13:12 fluffypony petepolack: /msg gribble ;;eregister petepolack D4ECFBB385737831
13:12 thestringpuller Everyone is so helpful
13:12 thestringpuller thanks fluffypony !
13:12 petepolack alright thanks, got it
13:12 BingoBoingo X-Rob: Well, we're looking into maybe getting a new p2pool set up for this coin given how shit this one seems to be, so news on that might be incoming.
13:14 X-Rob BingoBoingo: how about I set up a pool?
13:15 BingoBoingo X-Rob: Uh, sure.
13:15 X-Rob BingoBoingo: I'll do it this weekend.
13:16 BingoBoingo X-Rob: Can you do the p2pool type thing that gets people paid in the coinbase?
13:16 thestringpuller X-Rob: sell me coins!!!!
13:16 thestringpuller lol
13:16 thestringpuller jkjk
13:16 petepolack thestringpuller: it worked
13:16 petepolack damn
13:18 kakobrekla wasnt it /msg kakobrekla <privatekey>
13:18 kakobrekla pretty sure it was.
13:33 punkman mike_c: my computer is retarded. 3056 / 10000 = 0.3056, but 3056 * 0.0001 = 0.30560000000004 << javascript?
13:33 mike_c python
13:34 jurov use Decimal for such
13:36 jurov for example ghci says the same.. it's standard floating point stuff
13:37 jurov whereas >>> Decimal(3056)*Decimal('0.0001')
13:37 jurov Decimal('0.3056')
13:37 punkman I did my bitbet app without decimals, didn't notice a problem
13:39 jurov that's cause buttcoins were designed to round cleanly after simple computation with doubles
13:39 jurov if you did bitcoinica-liek stuff, that'd be a problem
13:44 ben_vulpes holy logs
13:44 ben_vulpes i'm 1100 lines behind
13:49 mike_c jurov: yeah, I use decimal's pretty liberally. this calculation wasn't coin related.
13:50 punkman oh I see now, it worked because I didn't use my (satoshi / 100000000.0) results in further calculations
14:01 mike_c i also use a curiously large number of extraneous apostrophes.
14:01 mike_c anyhoo. i get floating point stupidness. just mildly surprised the division & multiplication are different.
14:02 mike_c i thought it had more to do with the result than the inputs.
14:09 kakobrekla just intify errything
14:13 mircea_popescu <mod6> oh cool, mpex.co is back << last week or so
14:14 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski> well fuck. << there is no such thing as a perfect wife, horse or business idea.
14:14 mircea_popescu wives horses and business ideas are what you make of them.
14:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 65 @ 0.0107 = 0.6955 BTC [+]
14:20 mircea_popescu !up Wexel
14:20 mircea_popescu !up Brigadier
14:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: (other than a library) << "there isn't where t og oin the usa for aspirin other than pharmacy". o woe ?
14:27 mircea_popescu nubbins`: is that the app that lets you anonymously tell women you want to cum on their tits? <<< you know, this is very popular with a large section of the female population, but the woman that wants dribbling by random people she doesn't know is quite rare.
14:27 mircea_popescu it's more like part of cuddling, in the female mind.
14:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21453 @ 0.00069092 = 14.8223 BTC [-]
14:29 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski: decimation: 'pep rally' << been to a few of these myself. because morale! at least our school had the bestest cheerleaders in the city << because they were... immoral ?
14:30 mircea_popescu nubbins`: "extraneous muscle mass" << penis.
14:30 BingoBoingo lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvgEWBDIEAErBVN.jpg
14:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i see your Shave My Pussy and i raise you a Narcotic.
14:31 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JSXCfGWjqA
14:31 assbot Liquido - Narcotic (HD) - YouTube
14:35 mircea_popescu http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/mya_aaten-white_shooting_victim_from_aug_12_says_police_have_not_interviewed_her.php << o look at that. us police shoots civillian in the street, goes to hospital, steals bullet, disappears it.
14:35 assbot Mya Aaten-White, Ferguson Shooting Victim, Says Police Have Not Interviewed Her | Riverfront Times
14:35 mircea_popescu this is so romanian revolution it bleeds.
14:36 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That's what I'm thinking, well the police stealing their bullet back. I dunno if pale America is ready to take Obama out back yet.
14:37 mircea_popescu what's obama to do with this ?
14:37 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, wasn't that the end of the Romanian revolution?
14:37 mircea_popescu nubbins`: BingoBoingo: the hospital would have taken note of who took the bullet, no? << well if they didn't, either the police comissioner hangs or they got themselves a police state.
14:37 mircea_popescu either way.
14:37 mircea_popescu guy'd better pray they did take note.
14:38 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yes. difference being that they never shot gorbachev.
14:38 mircea_popescu so you know, missouri governor ?
14:39 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski: that's a premium upgrade << cut glass. 10 bux in any mirror shop.
14:42 thestringpuller penguirker:
14:42 thestringpuller penguirker:
14:42 thestringpuller lol
14:42 thestringpuller oops
14:46 mircea_popescu !up petenineteen
14:46 mircea_popescu petenineteen seriously ?
14:47 BingoBoingo That sounds like a cam girl screen name, except pete
14:48 mircea_popescu speaking of which, a food chain here is called mustachios.
14:48 BingoBoingo lol
14:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3215 @ 0.00119007 = 3.8261 BTC [+] {3}
14:49 thestringpuller okay petenineteen
14:49 thestringpuller ;;eregister
14:49 gribble (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase (1 more message)
14:49 thestringpuller petenineteen: -^
14:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 563 @ 0.00119996 = 0.6756 BTC [+] {2}
14:50 mike_c eregister something_other_than_petenineteen
14:51 mircea_popescu petetwelveandwhatisthis ?
14:51 thestringpuller is petenineteen taken?
14:51 thestringpuller lol
14:51 thestringpuller ;;gettrust petenineteen
14:51 gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user petenineteen: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=petenineteen | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=petenineteen | Rated since: never
14:51 mike_c what's the record for most trolling before the guy even opens his mouth?
14:51 mircea_popescu his mom ?
14:53 dignork mircea_popescu: rasing Narcotic to Umlala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reN5vaSADKQ
14:53 assbot Umlala - My Pdf Files (Official Video) - YouTube
14:54 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Looks like this is going through October http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/mcculloch-grand-jury-to-get-evidence-in-ferguson-case-through/article_a2893384-0bcf-51a9-b479-9c7e9496c6a1.html
14:54 assbot McCulloch: Grand jury to get evidence in Ferguson case through mid-October : News
14:54 dignork *raising
14:56 mircea_popescu dignork ok, i didn't want to do this but you asked for it. prepare to be glassed.
14:56 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwhdkJcz-c
14:56 assbot Hot Girl tania and me Pwning Noobs on The Tell-Lie-Vision (ATHENE #22) - YouTube
15:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33963 @ 0.00068791 = 23.3635 BTC [-] {2}
15:06 thestringpuller damn mpoe below IPO v3 listing?
15:06 thestringpuller wow
15:07 thestringpuller BUY BUY BUY
15:10 mike_c fiat -> btc -> mpoe = two profits?
15:11 BingoBoingo lol, but whose bank are you going to break on the way there?
15:11 mircea_popescu the two profits of internets.
15:11 mircea_popescu but yea srsly, in the space of six months i went from >1bn to like what, 200mn ?
15:12 mircea_popescu am i like the biggest loser of the summer or what!
15:12 dignork mircea_popescu: the guy is playing a wrong game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC7GGrUdJUI&t=0m25s
15:12 assbot Russian Roulette in Wedding gone Wrong - Roulette Russa a Matrimonio - YouTube
15:12 mircea_popescu dignork srsly. he's such a total dork you could not believe.
15:12 mircea_popescu the chick however, she comes from money, ran for the danish pirate party iirc, got a seat.
15:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29879999 = 0.5976 BTC [+]
15:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: where t og oin the usa for aspirin other than pharmacy". o woe << (practical) chemistry is an experimental science. very 'seat of the pants', like metalwork or any other work with hands.
15:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes, you can study under the cover of darkness, in a cellar, with black-market materials. but it used to be, you could also study at a university.
15:20 dignork Sad story happened to my friend recently. He lost ~1btc to Chrome toolbar, which replaced deposit btc address on coinbase withdrawal form. Can somebody suggest coinbase to implement gpg-signed orders?
15:20 thestringpuller $depth mpoe
15:20 empyex thestringpuller: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=135 Or use a valid MPSIC!
15:20 thestringpuller $depth s.mpoe
15:20 empyex thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Bids: 33287 @ 0.00068725 12200 @ 0.00068618 350 @ 0.00063000 25000 @ 0.00060000
15:20 empyex thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Asks: 26998 @ 0.00068872 10271 @ 0.00069092 23339 @ 0.00069415 40110 @ 0.00069671
15:22 danielpbarron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl6DizyZgFY << "Bitcoin is the walk-man, Black coin is the iPad"
15:22 assbot BLACKCOIN - The Music Video - YouTube
15:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33487 @ 0.00068724 = 23.0136 BTC [-] {2}
15:33 BingoBoingo !up aspho
15:33 BingoBoingo !up shovel_boss
15:33 punkman dignork, that sucks. maybe if he makes a fuss coinbase will refund that withdrawal
15:33 BingoBoingo Hello assbot shovel_boss
15:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00068618 = 8.3714 BTC [-]
15:39 TomServo http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/20/berkshirehathaway-settlement-idUSL2N0QQ1LR20140820
15:39 assbot UPDATE 3-U.S. fines Berkshire over stock deal, Buffett admits mistake| Reuters
15:39 TomServo gave Berkshire a reputation as a lender of last resort when financial markets come under strain << Hadn't heard that line before.
15:42 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1500 @ 0.00119997 = 1.8 BTC [+]
15:46 BingoBoingo !Up KRS-1
16:00 dignork punkman: afaik, no, coinbase received order to send to address X, instead of Y, they had now way of detecting it, because it's just http request altered on the client side
16:12 mod6 ;;ticker
16:12 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 521.98, Best ask: 522.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 521.96, 24 hour volume: 17498.21146377, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 527.01, 24 hour vwap: 494.872496909
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1919 @ 0.00065107 = 1.2494 BTC [-]
16:25 BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Fugitive_from_a_Chain_Gang
16:25 assbot I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:26 ben_vulpes ;;ticker
16:26 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 519.49, Best ask: 519.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 519.49, 24 hour volume: 17774.39850899, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 527.01, 24 hour vwap: 495.727614364
16:26 ben_vulpes that floppy btc trampoline
16:26 ben_vulpes 420 min after the etf?
16:27 pankkake ;;ticker --market bcent --currency eur
16:27 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 395.0, Best ask: 400.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 400.0, 24 hour volume: 101.36987742, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 400.0, 24 hour vwap: 373.07105659
16:27 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
16:28 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 521.0, vol: 17792.87498487 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 510.7, vol: 8252.58738 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 516.02, vol: 28283.81807457 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 546.99, vol: 36.78969469 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 512.568453, vol: 37552.61050000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 530.0, vol: 28.98932003 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 530.52, vol: 101.36987742 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
16:31 BingoBoingo !up napedia
16:31 BingoBoingo !up peterl
16:31 peterl fluffypony here?
16:32 peterl on the topic of Chem in college: At MSU we had three levels of O-chem (which I helped teach), one for nurses, one for premed+scientists, and one for chemists
16:33 BingoBoingo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plummer_v._State
16:33 assbot Plummer v. State - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:33 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: so what's it like in MO
16:33 asciilifeform peterl: this used to be common, i'm told. but eliminated at most large public unis, afaik, for cost-cutting.
16:33 thestringpuller lootin nearby?
16:33 thestringpuller loot all da stores
16:33 * thestringpuller does not condone or endorse looting and rioting.
16:33 peterl yeah, I guess they need the money to pay the football coaches now
16:34 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: last night was a quiet night. After http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/mya_aaten-white_shooting_victim_from_aug_12_says_police_have_not_interviewed_her.php Tonight might be... who knows
16:34 assbot Mya Aaten-White, Ferguson Shooting Victim, Says Police Have Not Interviewed Her | Riverfront Times
16:36 ben_vulpes <mircea_popescu> copyright covers performance you ninny. unless you're listening to an amphora capture of original greek choruses, it's covered alright. << oh, bitcoin recognizes copyright but not patents?
16:36 thestringpuller wow that
16:36 thestringpuller is so fucked
16:36 thestringpuller when can sovereign entities use force if the police are militarized?
16:36 thestringpuller isn't this how revolutions start?
16:37 thestringpuller why can't*
16:37 thestringpuller wow tired
16:38 BingoBoingo !up mpmcsweeney
16:38 BingoBoingo Hello mpmcsweeney
16:39 kakobrekla have a tit http://blog.tastebuds.fm/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/worstalbumcovers01.jpeg
16:39 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Well...prolly when people start getting naked
~ 28 minutes ~
17:08 BingoBoingo !up bitcoinhtx
17:08 BingoBoingo !up tych0
17:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.0012 = 1.2 BTC [+] {2}
17:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 385 @ 0.00375195 = 1.4445 BTC [-] {2}
17:30 mike_c !t h rent
17:30 assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00375001 / 0.00432963 / 0.00478000 (959 shares, 4.15211592 BTC), 7D: 0.00360047 / 0.00431174 / 0.00478000 (3125 shares, 13.47419209 BTC), 30D: 0.00305500 / 0.00407779 / 0.00498614 (12095 shares, 49.32086116 BTC)
~ 17 minutes ~
17:48 jurov !s haskoin
17:48 assbot 0 results for 'haskoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=haskoin
17:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 58 @ 0.01159351 = 0.6724 BTC [-] {3}
17:54 BingoBoingo http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2e1tx0/while_youre_busy_pumping_his_book_andreas/
17:54 assbot While you're busy pumping his book, Andreas Antonopoulos, the "security officer" at blockchain.info still has not fixed a critical vulnerability in blockchain.info that was reported to them and acknowledged a month ago. : Bitcoin
17:54 BigBitz Hah. Andreas.
17:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064563 = 0.6456 BTC [-]
17:55 BingoBoingo We analyzed this bug and found that it if exploited, an attacker can cause a wallet to show incorrect balances. However, an attacker must spend bitcoin to do so.
17:55 BingoBoingo My gosh, are you guys totally unaware that hundreds or thousands of services use your API to may check balances and provide services on top of it? What the hell are you guys doing. This guy is reporting a vulnerability for free and you act ignorant. Do you want somebody to exploit such vulns without reporting and blockchain ending up like emptygox?
17:56 pete_dushenski lol when mp kills someone, he really kills 'em, eh?
17:59 BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/reddit-nixes-new-subreddit-advertising-high-end-counterfeit-us-dollars/
17:59 assbot reddit nixes new subreddit advertising high-end counterfeit US dollars | Ars Technica
17:59 BigBitz nixes. excellent word.
18:00 pete_dushenski https://twitter.com/Yowan/status/458265746410602496
18:00 assbot Such a great logical argument: http://t.co/MCE1tOIzuD
18:15 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 42 @ 0.012599 = 0.5292 BTC [+] {2}
~ 28 minutes ~
18:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16031 @ 0.00063902 = 10.2441 BTC [-]
18:44 thestringpuller !ticker m s.mpoe
18:44 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063902 / 0.00069727 / 0.00070723 (632210 shares, 440.82 BTC), 7D: 0.00063902 / 0.00071569 / 0.0007468 (3821663 shares, 2,735.13 BTC), 30D: 0.00063902 / 0.00079496 / 0.00094217 (16714154 shares, 13,287.20 BTC)
18:45 pete_dushenski it's tough goin out there in bitcoinlandia!
18:46 thestringpuller how so?
18:46 thestringpuller what is bitcoinlandia?
18:47 pete_dushenski lol this whole thing is bitcoinlandia
18:47 pete_dushenski so btc and mpoe getting cracked on is the "tough goin"
18:47 Namworld Yeah, about that blockchain.info reddit thread... nice link provided in there: https://blockchain.info/address/3M1S3tZVkEJw7zVBtn1Mq8McVyfnNMAuoX
18:47 assbot Bitcoin Address 3M1S3tZVkEJw7zVBtn1Mq8McVyfnNMAuoX
18:48 thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/L08FPjx.jpg << lol what?
18:48 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: well we don't know the full story. there could be large withdrawals going out of MPEx
18:49 Namworld ...
18:49 pete_dushenski lol @ josh
18:49 Namworld ;;next
18:49 gribble See latest update from Onefixt here: https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle/
18:49 Namworld what's the next diff command...
18:49 thestringpuller ;;estimate
18:49 gribble Next difficulty estimate | 26649333965.9 based on data since last change | 26457879467.4 based on data for last three days
18:50 Namworld Nice going, Josh
18:50 pete_dushenski thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: well we don't know the full story. there could be large withdrawals going out of MPEx << as opposed to…?
18:51 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: what do you mean? Who knows where the capital is being deployed, why, and how.
18:52 thestringpuller If money is staying in MPEx then it will be deployed somewhere else besides MPOE
18:52 thestringpuller if it is moving out then it's going someplace, God knows what
18:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 60 @ 0.0217227 = 1.3034 BTC [-]
18:52 pete_dushenski well there's not a lot of evidence to support the theory that the derps, wol, bbet, or nsa are picking up the slack
18:53 pete_dushenski or x.eur
18:53 pete_dushenski but you're correct in saying that it may be just staying on balance at mpex but off-market
18:54 thestringpuller they aren't picking up the slack
18:54 thestringpuller you can poll trades...
18:54 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 60 @ 0.011592 = 0.6955 BTC [-] {3}
18:54 pete_dushenski maybe the coins are being dumped onto bitstamp for seekrit skvirels to depress price lol
18:56 thestringpuller or maybe the other assets on mpex will pick up slack at some point
18:56 thestringpuller as they monetize perhaps
18:56 thestringpuller but this price is very low as you probably know
18:56 asciilifeform or mircea_popescu finally bought atomic dirigible.
18:56 thestringpuller I think the private equity buy was for higher price than this
18:57 thestringpuller ;;google atomic dirigible
18:57 gribble GTA V DLC Dirigible ATOMIC | Como Conseguirlo - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFbbgmJRwDc>; Como obtener el Dirigible en GTA V The Atomic Blimp - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2BYtak610U>; GTA V - DLC Dirigible Atomic con la Reserva - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmgJEf333H0>
18:57 thestringpuller you guys playing GTA?
18:57 novusordo or maybe some sweet new exciting mining bond got released on havelock
18:57 asciilifeform http://www.airships.net/wp-content/uploads/soviet-atomic-dirigible1.jpg
18:57 thestringpuller there isn't much overlap between mpex investors and play exchanges
19:00 pete_dushenski novusordo: i had a similar hunch ;)
19:00 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: holy sweet mother...
19:01 jurov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfwxCLAPKgs BIGGER BOOBS FOR ERRYONE
19:01 assbot Bigger boobs tutorial- Dominika Myslivcov - YouTube
19:02 pete_dushenski or maybe mp dumped his own stock to buy bigger boobs to go with his raw salmon?
19:03 thestringpuller why don't people make airships anymore...
19:03 asciilifeform thestringpuller: partially - the u.s. monopoly on helium
19:05 asciilifeform (soviet atomic dirigible would've probably flown with H2 from sea water. because cheap and angry.)
19:05 pete_dushenski http://www.helium-corp.com/facts/heliumfound.html
19:05 assbot Where Helium is Found? : Inter-American Corporation Helium Exploration and Production
19:05 asciilifeform hell, from atmospheric vapours. (don't need much to top off the balonettes)
19:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42513 @ 0.00064175 = 27.2827 BTC [+] {2}
19:06 BingoBoingo !t m s.mpoe
19:06 assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063902 / 0.00069354 / 0.00070723 (656568 shares, 455.36 BTC), 7D: 0.00063902 / 0.00071487 / 0.0007468 (3864176 shares, 2,762.41 BTC), 30D: 0.00063902 / 0.00079457 / 0.00094217 (16756667 shares, 13,314.48 BTC)
19:06 ben_vulpes i remember buying some mpoe last time it was this low
19:06 pete_dushenski mmm angry atomic dirigibles...
19:06 ben_vulpes falling knife, that day.
19:06 pete_dushenski now there's an idea for a comic strip!
19:07 BingoBoingo (soviet atomic dirigible would've probably flown with H2 from sea water. because cheap and angry.) << H2 Airship is probably near the Platonic form of of cheap and angry
19:07 asciilifeform http://www.papercraftsquare.com/pic/command-conquer-kirov-airship-papercraftcommand-conquer-kirov-airship-papercraft.jpg
19:08 asciilifeform http://api.ning.com/files/A*xATsTqGf7gA1dHf5rr4H61g8SHHZ5JqNwx5I1IGjv5-FiTzTM*nJGnss9F-l8bH6R0nTuJqqI2wkvX3-yPR0IIu*tX9AuH/C31ComradeAirship.jpg?width=411&height=600
19:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 113 @ 0.0217227 = 2.4547 BTC [-]
19:09 pete_dushenski lol
19:11 jurov maybe silica aerogel filled with h2 could be used someday...it can be expected to not be explosive thanks to its thermal insulative properties
19:11 asciilifeform h2 without o is not explosive.
19:11 BingoBoingo O finds a way
19:12 asciilifeform dirt-cheap semiconductor leak detectors exist today, vs. 100 yrs ago
19:22 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.29879999 = 1.1952 BTC [+]
19:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00064361 = 3.3468 BTC [+]
19:31 mircea_popescu Namworld lol borkt.
19:32 mircea_popescu <thestringpuller> http://i.imgur.com/L08FPjx.jpg << lol what? << forum muppets being forum muppets.
19:32 mircea_popescu in the moment they FEEL they're just like you. then later, they're no longer around to eat dirt, and if they are they won't eat the dirt anyway.
19:33 mircea_popescu an infinite supply of such examples is how the idea that normal people aren't entitled and shouldn't be entitled to an opinion came about.
19:35 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> or mircea_popescu finally bought atomic dirigible. << i've not actually sold any bitcoin, still.
19:36 mircea_popescu i mean sure bits here and there in normal course of business, but that's about all.
19:37 mircea_popescu <jurov> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfwxCLAPKgs BIGGER BOOBS FOR ERRYONE << THANKS JUST WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR!
19:37 assbot Bigger boobs tutorial- Dominika Myslivcov - YouTube
19:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-09/russia-aims-for-top-spot-in-helium-production-as-u-s-depletes-stockpiles.html ?
19:39 assbot Russia Set to Top Helium Supply as U.S. Sells Reserve - Bloomberg
19:41 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> H2 Airship is probably near the Platonic form of of cheap and angry << or in any case, a good rendition of a very large matchstick.
19:41 jurov lol
19:43 mircea_popescu "The U.S. government had a world monopoly on helium and in the mid-1930s refused to sell any to the Zeppelin Co. in Germany, which is why the Hindenburg was filled with highly-flammable hydrogen when it exploded."
19:43 mircea_popescu good to know the us govt is in some way related to every modern atrocity.
19:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.00064114 = 17.407 BTC [-]
19:48 BingoBoingo !up dooglus
19:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform mostly remarkable for "Russia, already the largest producer of crude oil and natural gas, is weighing up plans to become the biggest supplier of helium, the inert gas vital for medical scanners, welding tools and rocket fuel, as the U.S. sells reserves from storage."
19:49 thestringpuller that's a name I haven't seen in a good while.
19:49 mircea_popescu they burn helium nao dontchaknow. better than water.
19:51 mircea_popescu !up agamemno123
19:56 thestringpuller !last m s.mpoe
19:56 assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00064114 BTC [-]
20:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14926 @ 0.00064114 = 9.5697 BTC [-]
20:05 BingoBoingo reeses: Protestor with the confinscated head bullet http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/Officer-who-threatened-to-kill-protester-in-Ferguson-suspended-272073421.html together with http://www.tacticalsol.com/ar-22-series-uppers/ar-22-sb-x seem like interest wild conspiracy stuff.
20:05 assbot Officer who threatened to kill protester in Ferguson suspended | KMOV.com St. Louis
20:06 BingoBoingo ( .22LR is sometimes talked on in police circles as an acceptable "escalation" from rubber"
20:07 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo wlel they don't really do anything.
20:07 mircea_popescu “It was havoc at that time. He also got urine thrown on him, having to deal with that is obviously disgusting,” Jiminez said. “However, when he‘s trying to protect the public and asking people to back up, under no circumstances do I, or our department, condone his language.”
20:08 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo gotta admire the mindframe these grunts get into.
20:08 BingoBoingo Oh, Imma working on a blog post
20:08 mircea_popescu i bet you if you asked the whole complement of us police it'd be their honest estimation that in their absence the whole population would simply die overnight.
20:09 mircea_popescu he was "protecting the public".
20:09 BingoBoingo Sounds like the mindest on their blogs
20:09 BingoBoingo .22lr can do interesting things, but also explains why headshot protester girl lived http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f33/polar-bear-kill-54763/
20:09 assbot Polar Bear Kill - Long Range Hunting Online Magazine
20:10 mircea_popescu would be kinda cool if the next few crowd shooters adopt this strategy as the maximal damge game theoretic solution.
20:10 mircea_popescu "your honor, i was protecting the public"
20:10 mircea_popescu and just go with that.
20:10 mircea_popescu "just say what a policeman would say"
20:10 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo she got shot with a bb pellet ?
20:11 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well no updates on the confinscated bullet
20:11 BingoBoingo But if those assault rifles are mostly for looks and fitted with .22lr uppers could contribute to the explanation for why the cop got trigger happy
20:13 BingoBoingo The small rimfire calibers though still kill plenty of people in the city (cheap effective enough if trying)
20:17 thestringpuller !s bitreserve
20:17 assbot 3 results for 'bitreserve' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bitreserve
20:18 thestringpuller hmm
20:19 jurov "bitreserve" ... maybe one day it will be popular booze
20:19 jurov *name of
20:20 mircea_popescu aged in mulberry ?
20:20 kdomanski_ BingoBoingo: they're actually popular for gang hits, because it's trivial to make an effective supressor for them
20:20 BingoBoingo kdomanski_: In Missouri you can buy them without an NFA provided it was manufactered in Missouri
20:20 mircea_popescu dude im missing out on the party. i thought gangland was mostly 45
20:21 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It was in the 20's
20:21 mircea_popescu no wait, in the 20s it was bb pellets. what do you think thompson fires ?
20:21 BingoBoingo 45
20:21 kdomanski thompson was 45 ACP
20:21 mod6 yup it is
20:22 mircea_popescu fine fine.
20:22 mircea_popescu i got nothing.
20:22 mod6 i shot a thompson once, was great :)
20:22 kdomanski today they gold-plate .45 guns and carry them around for show
20:23 kdomanski "yo nigga, look at my 1911 el Presidente Edition"
20:24 mod6 haha, i was just about to say, i want this one: https://www.lesbaer.com/PresGrade.html
20:24 assbot Les Baer Custom Inc.
20:24 BingoBoingo Right, but the large caliber stuff looks cool and costs money.
20:28 mod6 i shot one of those rugers with the integrated supressor once, it was hilarious, made no sound at all other than the action.
20:29 mod6 click-clack.
20:29 mod6 (.22 rimfire job)
20:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34050 @ 0.00064427 = 21.9374 BTC [+] {2}
20:32 * mod6 ponders a hardware wishlist
20:32 mod6 hang on, lemme see if i can crowdfund my gun wishlist..
20:33 mod6 :D
20:34 mod6 i need an hk417
20:35 mod6 when the usg falls, i'll be buyin!
20:35 mod6 just think of all the toys that'll be avaliable. =D
20:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00064075 = 6.6958 BTC [-] {2}
20:43 mircea_popescu isn't the recoil pretty bad on that ?
20:44 mod6 the 417? na, its got a recoil sprint in the stock-tube.
20:44 mod6 shoots pretty much like the 16 or ar15/m16
20:45 mod6 or ar10
20:45 kdomanski mod6: when the usg falls I hope it's caches of chemical weapons are secure
20:45 mod6 everything will be up for grabs.
20:46 mod6 or sold off by .mil guys trying to cash in
20:46 mod6 either way. same thing happened in the ussr iirc.
20:48 mod6 you'd think they would want to destroy those and the nukes. but they won't, because they can't see the forest through the trees.
20:48 mircea_popescu kdomanski what's your definition of secure ?
20:49 kdomanski mircea_popescu: claimable by someone who knows exactly what they are doing, but not by a bunch of hillbillies
20:50 mircea_popescu that's probable.
20:50 mircea_popescu hillbillies with chemical weapons are a self limiting problem anyway
20:51 kdomanski if you don't live too close
20:52 BingoBoingo I'm and the places in the US I consider traveling before my eventual exodus all seem to be upwind of those problems
20:52 BingoBoingo If there is one thing Southern Illinois has over Southern Indiana its that.
20:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29879999 = 0.5976 BTC [+]
20:53 * BingoBoingo offer merely rumours and inuendo in supposing S IN might have such things
20:56 kdomanski the Internet tells me Westboro Baptist Church is in neither of these states
20:56 mod6 its in KS
21:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not actually sold any bitcoin, still << naturally one buys an atomic dirigible -with- btc.
21:02 thestringpuller mod6 and BingoBoingo MW'er 4lyfe
21:02 thestringpuller dat snow
21:03 BingoBoingo lol
21:03 asciilifeform Hindenburg << would've probably died 'natural' death of most other dirigibles (wind. wonder where the u.s. ones went?) if not for the nitrocellulose envelope.
21:03 BingoBoingo !s big prison
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21:04 asciilifeform helium... welding tools and rocket fuel << in welding, processes like TIG, etc. in rocket? what was author smoking?
21:04 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
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21:04 mod6 <+thestringpuller> dat snow << i basically piss ice cubes
21:05 asciilifeform .22LR is sometimes talked on in police circles as an acceptable "escalation" from rubber << old tradition in usa. e.g. http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/american-10-e.html
21:05 assbot Modern Firearms - American-180
21:06 mod6 290-round flat pan magazines << hahaha
21:06 asciilifeform the .22 (for non-usians, the familiar 'olympic' caliber) rifle is also explained by cost: roughly 1/2 - 1/3 of a 'proper' m16. low pressure round, can use garbage metals.
21:06 asciilifeform popular 'girls' rifle
21:08 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> the .22 (for non-usians, the familiar 'olympic' caliber) rifle is also explained by cost: roughly 1/2 - 1/3 of a 'proper' m16. low pressure round, can use garbage metals. << In police department purchasing general practice is buying actual M-16 type and them getting .22LR uppers to go with them
21:08 asciilifeform if i recall, these are a plug-in part (no machining required)
21:09 BingoBoingo More total purchases = Greater Bezzel
21:09 BingoBoingo Completely plug in
21:09 asciilifeform caliber being same.
21:10 mod6 yeah, you got nothin over 100m with that though. fine for qcb, but how are you supposed to reach out and touch someone in the field?
21:10 asciilifeform mod6: police snipers (like any other) traditionally use bolt-action rifles of the 19th c. variety
21:10 asciilifeform so the above isn't really about them
21:11 asciilifeform rather, 'crowd control' mitrailleuses.
21:11 mod6 well, im saying, in case you left your bolt action remmington at home...
21:11 asciilifeform as in 'pour la canaille la mitraille.'
21:11 BingoBoingo Nothing to do with caliber, in the AR/M-16 style rifle the entire upper switches out with the removal of pins and replacement of bolt carrier springs. As long as the new caliber round is no longer than 45mm it works.
21:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i vaguely recall these were advertised as using the old barrel
21:13 mod6 <+asciilifeform> as in 'pour la canaille la mitraille.' << haha!
21:13 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But the chamber in the standard 5.56x45mm barrel is wider to accomodate all that case. Unless the very cheap want a sleeve to solve that dimensional disparity at risk to limb...
21:15 asciilifeform .22 seems to be a caliber wildly popular in usa - likely, solely on account of cost. a few cents each.
21:16 mod6 yea, cheap & easy to shoot.
21:16 asciilifeform folks who spend a good deal of time at target practice complain about the fouling (no jacket.)
21:16 mod6 bah, just gotta scrub harder ;)
21:17 BingoBoingo You can get copper plated, but yeah. Fouling is an issue. Thankfully the solution instills good habits
21:18 * asciilifeform was informed re: the ubiquitous photos of gurlz posing with 'fancy m16' - typically it is the .22 cheapo variety.
21:19 BingoBoingo Oh there are cheapos in the actual caliber
21:19 BingoBoingo Pricing resource http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/
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21:19 asciilifeform cheapo as in 'reddit' budget
21:19 BingoBoingo What was that word for "the big jail"
21:19 mod6 includes a roll of ducktape
21:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: большая зона ?
21:20 BingoBoingo Yes, thank you.
21:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 55 @ 0.01199998 = 0.66 BTC [-] {2}
21:21 mod6 b-a has some decent weapons discussions.
21:21 * asciilifeform is armchair general, if ever contributed to decent military discussion - purely by accident.
21:21 mod6 :]
21:24 BingoBoingo I find reading about these things interesting because of the engineering and implementation issues raised. Like last night's electrolytic machining discussion.
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21:25 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i find it interesting that nothing principally new happened in small arms for almost a century. (curios like 'gyrojet' excepted)
21:25 asciilifeform departures from tradition - e.g. 'caseless shell' - were suggested, but no one bothered to reduce to practice afaik
21:26 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, a lot happened in terms of "market trials" on subjects such as "Full" v "intermediate" power rounds and ideal caliber at any power
21:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform similarly no improvement in vinyl discs.
21:27 asciilifeform lol
21:27 mircea_popescu small arms are a dead trope as it were.
21:27 asciilifeform small arms are a dead trope >> i recall a thread re: armour and the obsolescence of small arms
21:28 asciilifeform but one nitpick - the 'self-aiming rifle' (one variant recently exhibited) could be an interesting gotcha
21:28 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/sometimes-i-miss-romania/
21:28 mircea_popescu sure.
21:28 asciilifeform enemy might be covered in magical armour, but he still has, presumably, a visor
21:28 mircea_popescu it's just... you know that no modern war will be won by small arms fire. like if the uys and china went at each other
21:28 mircea_popescu it won'tr come down to who has many people that can and will fire a rifle.
21:29 asciilifeform there's the 'city meatgrinder' style of warfare
21:29 mircea_popescu this is like saying "the performance people moved away from vinly". it's dead.
21:30 asciilifeform collapse of mega-empires and even pre-collapse deterioration of industrial base tends to favour a return to classical arms, however.
21:30 mircea_popescu sure. and vinyl discs.
21:30 asciilifeform wax phonograph, hell.
21:30 mircea_popescu ayup.
21:31 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> enemy might be covered in magical armour, but he still has, presumably, a visor << this reminds me, you know the horny bear joke ?
21:31 asciilifeform ?
21:31 mircea_popescu mkay. so in th forest there lived this very horny, huge schlong bear. sort of like one eye pete of the beardom.
21:32 mircea_popescu one day he got really spunky, and his three bear wives ran off in this peculiar manner of females whose cunt is sore.
21:32 mircea_popescu and the bear took to the road to find something to stick his hard cock into, repeatedly.
21:32 mircea_popescu all animals took to flight, earthworms hid in the ground as deep as they could go.
21:32 mircea_popescu just the poor hedgehog, with his tiny feet couldn't really keep up
21:33 mircea_popescu so eventualy gave up, curled in a ball and hoped for the best.
21:33 mircea_popescu bear of course finds it, and spining it all around like a hot potato on his paws mutters with great urgency
21:33 mircea_popescu "where is your hole where is your hole"
21:33 mircea_popescu eventually the hedgehog loses it and peeps "i have no hole, let me be!"
21:33 mircea_popescu AHA! YOU SPOKE! THROUGH WHERE DID YOU SPEAK!
21:34 mod6 haha
21:34 asciilifeform lol
21:34 asciilifeform obligatory:
21:34 asciilifeform http://www.lspace.org/fandom/songs/hedgehogsong.html
21:34 assbot The L-Space Web: Songs
21:36 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: That was posted at the exact right time to get linked in blog post I'll finish tonight or maybe in the morning.
21:39 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: re: electrochemical machining: if you do the obvious thing and run it backwards, you can deposit metal. but you'll have to temper the finished product.
21:39 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo isn't the +iq effect of ba impressive.
21:40 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I've actually done that before, ghetto electro plating to build thickness
21:40 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It is indeed, especially considering all of the stuff I planned on addressing and culled
21:41 asciilifeform a traditional joke on a n00b in a machine shop, i'm told, is to send him off for a 'putting-on tool' when he cuts his first undersized piece.
21:41 asciilifeform chroming has been pressed into service as 'putting on tool' in some places.
21:41 asciilifeform but this here is a different idea - actually build the entire thing via moving nozzle (a la plastic printer.)
21:42 BingoBoingo In the boy scouts, people at camp their first year were sent to the quartermaster to retrieve the illustious "left handed smoke shifter"
21:43 asciilifeform every profession, i suspect, has its 'any key.'
21:46 BingoBoingo Well, some professions instead of hazing the n00bs haze the olds. See "retail pharmacy"
21:52 mircea_popescu It is said, if you try, you can bugger the fly, or the swallow as it skims so skilfully by
21:52 mircea_popescu ok that's poetry.
21:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [BTM] 560 @ 0.0018 = 1.008 BTC
22:04 kdomanski this trope is present even in popular media - e.g. in the Game of Thrones, king Robert sends his squire to get the "breastplate stretcher"
22:12 ben_vulpes "snipe hunting"
22:17 BingoBoingo White dude talking race and policing >> http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/20/a-key-thing-that-erodes-the-pretense-of-respectability-in-governance/
22:17 assbot A Key Thing That Erodes the Pretense of Respectability in Governance | Bingo Blog
22:18 thestringpuller !up petepolack
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22:21 BingoBoingo Anyone spot glaring errors in that post?
22:21 penguirker New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/20/a-key-thing-that-erodes-the-pretense-of-respectability-in-governance/
22:21 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-difficulty-changes/
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22:25 BingoBoingo jborkl: Oh 2010 when GPUs were introduced to general math
22:26 petenineteen ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:cb58cf832d0327498832507e885a99fbdd8640a2cd5b2300c2896be8
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22:27 BingoBoingo You did it petenineteen
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22:29 BingoBoingo http://www.vox.com/2014/8/20/6051377/video-st-louis-police-shooting-Kajieme-Powell
22:29 assbot Video of St. Louis police shooting raises questions about officers story - Vox
22:34 assbot [HAVELOCK] [BTM] 1115 @ 0.0018 = 2.007 BTC
22:39 BingoBoingo Related to the blog post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG5anQPlUXE
22:39 assbot Bonecrusher - Never Scared Remix (Dirty + Lyrics) - YouTube
22:40 BingoBoingo !up aspho
22:40 BingoBoingo !up xdotcommer
22:44 ben_vulpes o look who it is
22:45 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: re: article: taiwan is an interesting case of what i like to call a 'refrigerator' - pocket of thermodynamic dis-equilibrium kept going via outside energy (in its case - u.s. imperial navy)
22:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2597 @ 0.000639 = 1.6595 BTC [-]
22:45 asciilifeform the fate of the contents of the various u.s.-powered 'refrigerators' around the world will be interesting.
22:45 asciilifeform once plug is pulled.
22:46 BingoBoingo I dunno, I imagine some of the refrigerators might handle better than the mains box when disconnected
22:47 BingoBoingo Even though.. 2011 seemed for a while like American 1989...
22:48 asciilifeform 'history does not actually repeat - but does rhyme.'
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22:49 BingoBoingo !b 1
22:49 * BingoBoingo awaits Visigoths
22:50 asciilifeform might handle better than the mains box >> to the extent that the fridges largely consist of deliberately-crafted thorns in the side of the old sovblok, bad bet.
22:50 * BingoBoingo still has blown glass fuses
22:50 * asciilifeform did, two flats ago
22:51 BingoBoingo I like how they fail beautifully, before you realize you have to traverse the county in a disorderly manner to replace them
22:53 asciilifeform at the time, mine were at the top of a stairwell to nowhere (wall) - in the cellar (which the owner usually kept locked, to keep tenants from switching on the heat.)
22:54 * asciilifeform still remembers the inscription on the fuse case - '1932' - in chemical pen.
22:54 * BingoBoingo has never had a rental with locks worth more than a soda
22:56 asciilifeform usa proper is arguably the ultimate 'fridge'
22:57 asciilifeform even in the past, did not hold the frost very well (who burned, e.g., detroit, and why...)
22:57 BingoBoingo Ah, that freezer burn
22:59 asciilifeform and unlike, say, yugoslavia or ussr, there are no conveniently-drawn ethno-geographic bantustans for it to cleanly collapse to.
23:00 BingoBoingo Well, my pet theory is that much of the continued racial separation in the US is related to treating race as an inventory management problem
23:01 * asciilifeform wonders if the ferguson uprising folks like the logical conclusion of their work - bantustan behind concertina wire
23:03 BingoBoingo Well, the St Louis County PD and by extentsion the Ferguson PD work mostly for their pay which comes from West County
23:03 BingoBoingo And West County wants to know, what if these people follow their oppressors wallets
23:05 BingoBoingo The much promoted "outside agitators" still largely hail from St Louis County.
23:05 asciilifeform the 'opressors', as i understand, feed/house the 'oppressed'
23:06 asciilifeform which is the mind-boggling part
23:07 BingoBoingo Nominally, but I'm not really sure feed/house is covered in the actual budget.
23:07 BingoBoingo Unlike LRAD
23:08 asciilifeform people who insist on being shot by police of own, vs. opposite, color, end up in bantustans.
23:08 BingoBoingo The great bezzel problem is no one can be sure if anything was actually paid for
23:09 asciilifeform along side the bezzlatron, there exists the system whereby actual food is delivered, water, fuel, mains current, etc. is piped.
23:10 BingoBoingo I actually think the endgame a portion in Ferguson seeks is a police department like East St Louis's which see falling crime in spite of near complete inactio
23:10 asciilifeform inhabitants of a newly-minted bantustan are usually invited to handle these matters on their own.
23:11 BingoBoingo Well, the Illinois State police recently started policing East St Louis so there is prolly a point to that
23:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: try another hypothesis re: rationale for ferguson. engineered creation of 'open sores' for military action on the cheap. as described in http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/04/the-rationale-behind-boston-psy-ops.html
23:13 assbot ClubOrlov: The Rationale behind the Boston Psy-ops
23:14 BingoBoingo Bantustans aren't an unfamiliar creation in the region as many "coal city"'s existed which were named not for their coal mining.
23:14 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I've been thinking that point
23:15 BingoBoingo Today though was too soon for me to wave the Orlov was right flag. Last night was "mostly peaceful"
23:16 BingoBoingo And I still have a bowl full of dates to snack upon
23:16 asciilifeform general principle - if usa cannot maintain full employment for career trigger-pullers - collapsatron revvs up in record time.
23:16 nubbins` america is a complicated place
23:17 asciilifeform how to maintain full employment on the cheap? how about jacqueries.
23:17 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Did you see the guy I assigned the "Big Jail" link to?
23:18 asciilifeform policeman?
23:18 ben_vulpes <BingoBoingo> Well, my pet theory is that much of the continued racial separation in the US is related to treating race as an inventory management problem << out in the burbs recently, noticed while walking by a softball game while emptying the dogs tanks how the white folks sat on the left side of the field and the black folks on the other. this being in one of the few neighborhoods with actual black folks in portland, the ration was
23:18 ben_vulpes ~7:1
23:18 BingoBoingo Yes, State Trooper in Illinois. Many accidents, many incidents, finally shipped to wander the big jail for killing two cute white girls in a traffic accident
23:22 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: You can't believe what an asset not reflexively being afraid of black people is in this region.
23:23 ben_vulpes i'm sorely out of practice since leaving new york.
23:24 asciilifeform most russians in chechnya, pre-collapse, weren't instinctively afraid of their neighbours either.
23:24 asciilifeform these folks are now: dead.
23:25 asciilifeform ethnic war works quite like ordinary war, except that uniform is glued on.
23:25 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Imma trying to polish my spanish for a reason...
23:26 nubbins` im trying to spanish my polish
23:26 BingoBoingo And not simply because I have no idea how any word in old Trilema is pronounced
23:27 * BingoBoingo feels so-so ready for 30-day walk to freedom
23:28 nubbins` protip: UV water filters cat fit in your pocket
23:28 nubbins` *can
23:28 nubbins` cats will not fit in your pocket.
23:28 BingoBoingo Filter and replacement medium are already packed
23:30 nubbins` good man
23:30 * BingoBoingo wishes he were in time for TSR and could get a literal pound of cocaine to cut the walk to 10 days
23:30 nubbins` hammock or tent? :D
23:30 BingoBoingo nubbins`: knive and the good intentions of other men... no, tent
23:31 nubbins` heh
23:32 nubbins` you should look into hennessy hammocks, they pack super small and you can string up in all sorts of places
23:32 * BingoBoingo kind of wonders what money he could make with Sinaloa
23:34 BingoBoingo nubbins`: I'm not good at hammocks
23:34 nubbins` these ones are idiot-proof, built-in bug mesh, snug tarp
23:34 nubbins` you don't even need knots :0
23:36 BingoBoingo nubbins`: Problem with a hammock isn't setting it up, but waking up
23:36 nubbins` no advice for you there 8)
23:37 BingoBoingo In hung over hypnagogic terror might as well be a trap to the lizard brain, and I am not letting the spiders win
23:37 nubbins` first time pascale ever slept in a hammock, i suggested we leave the tarps off so we could see the stars
23:38 nubbins` we get settled in, she clicks on headlamp to get oriented, illuminates huge spider dive-bombing directly towards her face
23:38 nubbins` then we put the tarps back on ;D
23:39 BingoBoingo Times 1-5 sleeping in a hammock I awoke safely on the ground, knife in hand
23:40 BingoBoingo Tents are cool though
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23:41 nubbins` !b 2
23:41 nubbins` i can't get comfy on the ground
23:41 BingoBoingo No, the ground is great, like us apes
23:42 ben_vulpes nubbins`: do those hammocks hold two?
23:43 nubbins` standard model is ~250lb weight limit
23:43 nubbins` even sized correctly, you'd be smashed into each other all night. if this sounds like your thing, then yes
23:44 ben_vulpes did you and pascale hate it?
23:46 nubbins` we had one each
23:46 nubbins` shared a tarp
23:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2090 @ 0.00064249 = 1.3428 BTC [+]
23:47 * BingoBoingo suspects nubbins` values his life and didn't want to chance pascale's first time waking up in a hammock being his last time waking up
23:48 ben_vulpes *stab stab stab*
23:48 nubbins` no knives, keys, or lighters in the hammocks!
23:49 nubbins` important rules
23:50 BingoBoingo nubbins`: See I like to smoke in the tent which I why I pack an ash try
23:50 BingoBoingo *tray
23:51 * BingoBoingo wonders what person sleeps in the wilderness without protection
23:51 BingoBoingo l
23:52 nubbins` bear: "sweet, i love green peas"
23:53 BingoBoingo Even deer aren't obligate herbivores
23:56 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQOQdBLHrLk
23:56 assbot deer eating a bird - YouTube
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