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00:37 asciilifeform http://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=1008
00:37 assbot Strict Liability pg 1 | The Illustrated Guide to Law
00:38 mircea_popescu yeah. it's a good blog.
00:38 asciilifeform good guide to what 'nation of laws' means in practice.
00:39 mircea_popescu myeah
00:40 mircea_popescu !up GodHatesFigs
00:49 DreadKnight so how come big companies like Apple and such don't buy back all the shares? I can think of a few possible reasons but maybe I'm missing something important...
00:56 DreadKnight s/shares/stocks
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01:11 DreadKnight well nvm, reading up a lot of articles on the subject
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01:31 mircea_popescu !up damier
01:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.16308646 = 3.751 BTC [+] {4}
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02:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 51 @ 0.01505 = 0.7676 BTC [+]
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02:42 benkay http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/ // i have WoT citizenship.
02:42 assbot The crime of being American pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
02:43 mircea_popescu benkay lol rootless cosmopolitan is u.
02:44 benkay can't quite say what i am
02:45 benkay no idea, really.
02:45 benkay "optimizer of future degrees of freedom" is the closes i've come lately.
02:45 benkay http://trilema.com/2012/the-crime-of-being-american/#comment-89947 // my how time flies
02:45 assbot The crime of being American pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
02:49 mircea_popescu yeah, comment count at 103k now, ayear later.
02:54 benkay for those following along at home, the 1st comic in the hotlinked legal horrorshow: http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/13656784545/1-introduction-crime
02:54 assbot 1 Introduction - "CRIME" - The Illustrated Guide to Law
02:57 mircea_popescu you know the guy's site is linked above
02:57 mircea_popescu cause wol is advertising on it
02:58 * benkay takes note of all the places new MPEx properties advertise
02:59 mircea_popescu http://www.utopiatemple.com/ << i used to play this 20 years ago
02:59 assbot Formatters, Calculators, News and Forums - Utopia Temple
03:01 benkay in derpy consulting companyville, a small and attention-draining project has been completed and discharged which is *awesome*, for both the money and the cognitive bandwidth. we've an agreement in principle with another client to take more of a technical project management role, handling more of the coordination of roadmap + code production and moving the product along while the ceo feller focuses on sales and other higher-level
03:01 benkay concerns.
03:02 benkay and another project is basically closed but we're still in the dance-around-and-grab-at-each-other's-nuts phase w/r/t actual working relationship and what has one
03:02 mircea_popescu lo cool.
03:03 benkay vision for next 2 years is to grab bigger and bigger slices of the pie, maybe using mobile as a wedge and demonstrating kickassery and then expanding scope to whatever can be had and paid for.
03:05 benkay i'm starting to realize also that an engineering team that's blitting from one project to another is never going to be as effective as the same team focused on roadmap and cohesive set of business objectives.
03:05 benkay which in retrospect, duh
03:06 benkay subject only of stories that are not scams or threesomes
03:06 benkay night all
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04:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 270 @ 0.00297711 = 0.8038 BTC [-]
04:22 jurov "we're still in the dance-around-and-grab-at-each-other's-nuts phase" benkay is a poet
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04:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 298 @ 0.00297732 = 0.8872 BTC [+] {2}
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05:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.0008217 = 2.6294 BTC [-]
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05:36 fluffypony re: the discussion on having kids
05:36 fluffypony http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140725.png
05:45 cazalla it's a lot of fun fluffypony
05:46 cazalla it's just the total lack of sex that shocked me more than anything
05:47 cazalla comic needs to add baby is also covered in piss and vomit, not just shit
05:48 fluffypony hah hah
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06:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4671 @ 0.0029775 = 13.9079 BTC [+]
06:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.0029775 = 1.4888 BTC [+]
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06:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 183 @ 0.002975 = 0.5444 BTC [-]
06:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1576 @ 0.0029775 = 4.6925 BTC [+] {2}
06:48 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 281 @ 0.00297971 = 0.8373 BTC [+] {11}
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07:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1780 @ 0.00299987 = 5.3398 BTC [+] {9}
07:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 832 @ 0.00305 = 2.5376 BTC [+]
07:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 675 @ 0.0030884 = 2.0847 BTC [+] {7}
07:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2333 @ 0.0031078 = 7.2505 BTC [+] {10}
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07:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.003 = 1.5 BTC [-] {2}
07:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.01469041 = 0.8374 BTC [-] {2}
07:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 288 @ 0.00290114 = 0.8355 BTC [-] {5}
08:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 500 @ 0.00288889 = 1.4444 BTC [-]
08:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @ 0.00082234 = 2.5493 BTC [+]
08:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 660 @ 0.00285398 = 1.8836 BTC [-] {21}
08:30 fluffypony https://www.venturescanner.com/scans/bitcoin
08:30 assbot Venture Scanner : Real-time coverage on emerging technology markets. : 3D Printing : Bitcoin : Digital Health : Connected Transportation : Future of TV
08:30 fluffypony "A market map of the entire Bitcoin startup ecosystem"
08:30 fluffypony ie. who got given money for their shitty idea
08:45 kakobrekla coindesk "hey i am spam in your email, want to give me money for an article"
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08:46 kakobrekla bit4x "wait, let me find the quote, go fuck yourself"
08:46 kakobrekla coindesk "faggot!"
08:46 kakobrekla tru story.
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09:44 ThickAsThieves PETA got pwnt
09:45 ThickAsThieves coindesk called you a faggot? tell reddit!
09:45 ThickAsThieves such malicious communication
09:46 kakobrekla :D
09:53 Duffer1 odd activity on PETA
09:53 Duffer1 what happened?
09:54 Duffer1 nm i already stopped caring
09:56 penguirker New blog post: http://bitcoinassetsreception.wordpress.com/2014/07/26/summary-26-june-25-july/
09:58 thestringpuller !up Vexual
09:59 ThickAsThieves i didnt know Portishead made a new album in 2008, it's actually good as the other stuff
09:59 Vexual 2 albums total?
10:00 ThickAsThieves 3
10:00 Vexual oh
10:00 ThickAsThieves Dummy, Self-titled, Third
10:00 ThickAsThieves then the live stuff
10:00 Vexual dont have 3rd
10:00 ThickAsThieves which is pretty good
10:00 Vexual indeed
10:00 ThickAsThieves check out Third man
10:00 ThickAsThieves pretty good
10:00 Vexual i will
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10:57 Vexual ;;diff
10:57 gribble 1.8736441558310238E10
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11:58 mircea_popescu %d
11:58 atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 613819.23 in 990 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -10.68
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 15.27184064 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1328 satoshi per share
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 255 @ 0.00285098 = 0.727 BTC [-] {2}
12:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.67951300 BTC to 12`515 shares, 13420 satoshi per share
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00285016 = 0.855 BTC [-] {2}
12:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.17199714 = 1.204 BTC [+] {2}
12:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.17432335 = 1.2203 BTC [+] {2}
12:18 mircea_popescu http://ninjablaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/demo3.png << fan page schedular.
12:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.02701639 = 0.5403 BTC [-]
12:23 FabianB $traded
12:24 benkay amazing software
12:24 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:24 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: what's with the spam tool?
12:24 mircea_popescu kuzetsa it made me chuckle
12:24 kuzetsa ah ok
12:24 kuzetsa "spintax" ... sigh :(
12:24 mircea_popescu (i made some comments about buying traffic yest, now im innundated with people pitching their various traffic generating offerings. some are lulzy)
12:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.02701639 = 0.5403 BTC [-]
12:28 DreadKnight yeah, a lot of shady people are using bots and such to sell their magic crapware
12:29 DreadKnight facebook allows for scheduled posts anyway, pretty powerful stuff, considering most posts don't make it to your fans and you need to spam
12:32 DreadKnight my fb wall is filled with cleavage, gj Mark.
12:33 benkay !s f.derp
12:33 assbot 29 results for 'f.derp' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=f.derp
12:33 mircea_popescu cleavage ain't that bad.
12:34 DreadKnight everything has pros and cons though :)
12:35 fluffypony mircea_popescu: cleavage ain't that bad. <- that's what Klye thought too :-P
12:39 mircea_popescu lol how's that ?
12:40 fluffypony he thought cleavage was going to make him millions
12:40 fluffypony :-P
12:40 mircea_popescu lolk
12:42 DreadKnight it worked pretty well with Riot and League of Legends, lots characters / skins having that in-game and there's also Nikasaur chick presenting the community fanart showcase on youtube channel
12:43 DreadKnight that game is like tailored for underage wankers
12:44 mircea_popescu what, old men don't like teat ?
12:44 DreadKnight old men are more into the real thing
12:44 mircea_popescu ya think ?
12:44 benkay !mpif
12:44 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-]
12:45 benkay !t m f.mpif
12:45 assbot Stupid fucking white man.
12:45 DreadKnight :D
12:45 benkay mpif below nav
12:46 fluffypony lol assbot
12:51 FabianB $traded
12:51 empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: F.MPIF S.MPOE
12:53 FabianB $vwap f.mpif
12:53 empyex FabianB: F.MPIF 1 day: average: 0.00020681 high: 0.00021513 low: 0.00019 volume: 91617 btc: 18.94733383 7 day: average: 0.00020681 high: 0.00021513 low: 0.00019 volume: 91618 btc: 18.94754896 30 day: average: 0.00020681 high: 0.00021513 low: 0.00019 volume: 91618 btc: 18.94754896
12:54 Bet created: "Any US Player to win FIBA World Cup MVP" http://bitbet.us/bet/1002/
12:55 mircea_popescu benkay it just traded below nav briefly.
12:55 Bet created: "Elizabeth Warren to run for US President" http://bitbet.us/bet/1003/
12:59 Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Elizabeth Warren to run for US President" http://bitbet.us/bet/1003/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,998.
12:59 Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Any US Player to win FIBA World Cup MVP" http://bitbet.us/bet/1002/ Odds: 99(Y):1(N) by coin, 99(Y):1(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,993.
13:05 Bet created: "Block 338,000 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/1004/
13:05 Bet created: "Russia or Ukraine formally declares war on the other before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/1005/
13:12 decimation lol over the butthurt re: amazon posting quartly loss:
13:12 decimation Bezos insists on taking the long view. In his letter to shareholders last year, he responded to criticism about spending by saying investing in a "just-in-time fashion would be too clever by half."
13:12 decimation http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/features/amazon39s-far-reaching-ambitions-lackprofits-unnerve-investors_1138139.html?utm_source=ref_article
13:12 assbot Far-reaching ambitions, no profits, worry Amazon investors - Moneycontrol.com
13:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.1815 = 1.089 BTC [+] {2}
13:13 mircea_popescu y saying investing in a "just-in-time fashion would be too clever by half." << guy's got a point. he shgould be here.
13:14 decimation amazon benefits from being one of the few well-run companies in the us right now - this gives them the power to create their own frame
13:14 benkay right, last trade vs. orders on books
13:14 mircea_popescu actually tbh bezos may be the only guy in the derpeconomy of websites and whatnot that i actually like.
13:15 decimation derps have no choice but to invest in amazon because they don't see any good alternatives
13:15 decimation then they whine when quarterly payouts are not forthcoming
13:18 decimation I like his attitude toward meetings wrt powerpoint - he went the full Ed Tufte: http://www.philanthropydaily.com/jeff-bezos-powerpoint-prohibition/
13:18 assbot Jeff Bezos PowerPoint prohibition | Philanthropy Daily
13:20 decimation Ed Tufte is a little crazy but his classes are worth taking. His position is that you present your ideas in the form of an essay or paper. Then you talk about the salient points and field questions. The projector is for showing information dense pictures, like the baseball stats page from a newspaper
13:20 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3NJD512 << and we have a first nibble on the eth short.
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13:20 assbot dpaste: 3NJD512
13:20 mircea_popescu decimation omfg he's copied me. THEIF!
13:22 decimation lol maybe, he has a book about it: http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/powerpoint
13:22 assbot Edward Tufte: Books - Essay: The Cognitive Style of Powerpoint
13:22 decimation it's short, but has pretty pictures and is easy to understand for n00bs
13:22 benkay http://www.stockrip.com/finance/original-warren-buffett-partnership-agreement-found-here/
13:22 assbot Original Warren Buffett Partnership Agreement Found Here | StockRip
13:22 decimation he writes about how powerpoint contributed to retardation at nasa which lead to the shuttle's destruction
13:23 mircea_popescu the problem is exactly what he states : pp makes it easier for the presenter, harder for the audience. this is not a tradeoff you want
13:23 mircea_popescu unless, of course, you're trying to make everyone dumber.
13:24 decimation which is generally the goal of most gov't meetings, gov't education, etc
13:25 mircea_popescu right. then it becomes fashionable and before you know it the dumb broads in your household are giving pps to each other. and you can't do shit about it, because they're not your slaves, they're your "equal partners"
13:25 mircea_popescu very fucking far that'll go, i'm sure.
13:25 asciilifeform except that removing pp will not cure retardation. just as removing maggots will not resurrect corpse.
13:25 mircea_popescu in fact : traditional views on sexuality impose monogamy as a standard because that's the only way to hide just how dumb and inept a commune actually is : by keeping it real small.
13:26 mircea_popescu try a family of a coupla dozen wives that are all "equal partners" and see.
13:26 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it will, yes. it will resurect the not-yet-corpses and make the rest obvious.
13:26 Duffer1 mircea_popescu "..and that ETH trades on a reputable exchange" has "reputable" been defined?
13:26 mircea_popescu "just get rid of her if she's annoying" leads directly to "and get rid of any slaves that can't cope with no pp or complain enough"
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13:26 mircea_popescu Duffer1 basically, it has to actually work.
13:27 Duffer1 i see
13:27 mircea_popescu obviously i'll be buying some once it comes out. if shit happens like on icbit , where your bids are simply ignored while it "sells" to lower bids... then it's not reputable.
13:28 * asciilifeform just learned that this exists
13:28 decimation asciilifeform you mean Eth?
13:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform welcome to the world of a different set of idiocy.
13:28 mircea_popescu !up bertani
13:28 decimation My favorite thing about it are the random code snippets that are supposed to demonstrate how awesome it is, but in fact demonstrate that it's crazy
13:29 mircea_popescu decimation if this gets funded ima allow interested buyers to take positions. either directly or via bitbet.
13:29 asciilifeform they have code?
13:30 decimation kind of I guess https://www.ethereum.org/
13:30 assbot ethereum
13:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform according to their own claims, they got > 5k btc deposited by people looking to get a total 10mn of the shits.
13:30 mircea_popescu seths.
13:31 decimation I guess it's one of these turing-complete contract bitcoin wanna-bes - I haven't seen any serious analysis of the codebase yet
13:32 * asciilifeform read their original paper, thought it could lead to something vaguely interesting - until the premined turdcoin came out...
13:32 mircea_popescu no wait, that must be diff. this one's not out yet.
13:32 asciilifeform hm
13:32 Duffer1 speaking of.. i haven't heard any ripple news in a while..
13:33 decimation ascii re:premined - monkey can't let go of banana in trap...
13:34 danielpbarron http://danielpbarron.com/swarm.log.txt << long but kinda funny read about yet another scam
13:34 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-07-2014#765724
13:34 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
13:35 decimation quite. To be fair, satoshi still has his hand on the banana
13:35 decimation but that kind of opportunity only comes around once a century or two
13:36 mircea_popescu <decimation> quite. To be fair, satoshi still has his hand on the banana << i don't see it.
13:37 chetty http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28498909
13:37 assbot BBC Sport - Argentina FA fined 20,000 for Falklands banner display
13:37 decimation mircea, are you saying satoshi's horde doesn't exist?
13:38 fluffypony http://www.coinssource.com/trust
13:38 assbot The Coins Source Trust Index
13:38 fluffypony lol
13:38 mircea_popescu decimation yeah.
13:40 decimation is there a published analysis of the early blockchain?
13:41 mircea_popescu lots.
13:43 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 693 @ 0.003 = 2.079 BTC [+]
13:44 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 241 @ 0.00309014 = 0.7447 BTC [+] {3}
13:45 mthreat http://stopmasturbationnow.org/weather/17-year-old-girl-stuck-by-lightning-when-masturbating/
13:45 assbot 17 Year Old Girl Struck by Lightning While Masturbating | Stop Masturbation Now
13:45 chetty http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/business/the-typical-household-now-worth-a-third-less.html?_r=0
13:45 assbot Log In - The New York Times
13:46 mircea_popescu ahahah
13:47 decimation https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/ << this guy estimate's satoshi's fortune at 1M btc,
13:47 assbot The Well Deserved Fortune of Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin creator, Visionary and Genius | Bitslog
13:47 mircea_popescu http://stopmasturbationnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/jen.jpg << this chick;'s like 30
13:47 decimation that's alot but not enough to shake the foundations of bitcoin
13:48 mircea_popescu decimation i am aware. it's not "his" estimation. there's been this thing pushed around since 2011ish, a meme equivalent to "who really is satoshi"
13:49 decimation ah, you discussed last year http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2013#39370
13:49 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
13:51 mircea_popescu decimation it's just... you know. pretty much everyone i know who's been mining in 2010 has actually lost the majority of bitcoin they ever mined. irrespective if they still mine or not.
13:51 mircea_popescu and besides, artforz is likely a much larger holder than satoshi himself. IF he had any sense.
13:51 mircea_popescu which judging by his disappearance, he prolly did have.
13:52 decimation this guy has more detail https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507458.40
13:52 assbot Chain Archaeology - Answers from the early blockchain
13:52 decimation yeah I agree, I had mined in 2010 and lost much of it unfortunately
13:58 mircea_popescu so, yeah. people like to dream. one dream they like to dream is that they'll be the sherlock that'll discover "the real satoshi". another dream they like to dream is the vicarious wealth of amillionbtc.
13:58 mircea_popescu there's nothing wrong with this any more than there's anything wrong with watching animated pony cartoons.
13:58 mircea_popescu when one starts pretendling like reality, going to school in their pony suit and mixing fiction in power points... well... that's actually unhealty.
14:02 mircea_popescu i don't get what that coinsource thing is supposed to be.
14:09 mircea_popescu kakobrekla: tru story. << lel.
14:09 mircea_popescu if only they had a smidgeon of business sense to start back in 2013 by coming here, they'd have actually had a future.
14:13 decimation http://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/itb/articles/?id=2529 << follow up on chetty's post
14:13 assbot In the Balance : Hispanic Population's Share of Wealth Likely to Increase by 2025
14:14 decimation The U.S.'s Hispanic population was about 50.5 million in 2010, representing 16.3 percent of the total population (Table 1).1 According to the Federal Reserve's Survey of Consumer Finances and its Financial Accounts of the United States, Hispanic families had about ... about 2.2 percent of total wealth ... In summary, we project the Hispanic share of total wealth to increase from 2.2 percent in 2010 to either 2.6 percent or 3.2
14:14 decimation percent of the economy's total wealth by 2025
14:14 mircea_popescu inasmuch as some jews are hispanic, im sure it will increase.
14:15 decimation even their "model" predicts no movement, but the press release predictably says: http://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/wealth-share-of-hispanic-population-may-triple-by-2025/
14:15 assbot Wealth Share of Hispanic Population May Triple by 2025 | St. Louis Fed On the Economy
14:20 mircea_popescu this is such idiocy. rich people are rich people. they're not "hispanic", they're rich.
14:20 mircea_popescu there's exactly zilch that the "share of wealtyh of the hispanic population" means.
14:21 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/bitcoin-mining-profit/
14:21 mircea_popescu this entire situation is reminiscent of someone trying to "enhance" abstinence-only sexed by reports about how "women's orgasms per capita set to increase this year"
14:22 mircea_popescu people who're not fucking aren't going to be interested, unless, of course, they're retarded.
14:22 decimation just as rich folk could give a tinker's damn what some poor mexican thinks about how things ought to be
14:23 decimation http://www.isegoria.net/2014/07/decadence-is-not-physical/
14:23 assbot Decadence Is Not Physical Ā« Isegoria
14:23 decimation "Decadence is a moral and spiritual disease, resulting from too long a period of wealth and power, producing cynicism, decline of religion, pessimism and frivolity. The citizens of such a nation will no longer make an effort to save themselves, because they are not convinced that anything in life is worth saving."
14:23 chetty I wonder, does the poor Mexican give a tinkers damn either?
14:23 decimation not really, because he thinks he is rich compared to his cousins back home
14:23 mircea_popescu Daniel: "We believe that we can build a better future. We believe that we can enable all to participate in a revolution of collective ownership, something that will radically shift the nature of human society." wtf; are they socialists? <<< lulzy danielpbarron
14:24 danielpbarron i know, right? i was cracking up reading it
14:24 mircea_popescu decimation it only indirectly results from a too long period of wealth and power. i know, for i've been wealthy and powerful my entire life. the trick is to not buy into comfort. that's the direct causation : once people become comfortable and think "i'm too wealthy and powerful to be here fucking with a wrench inside this engine on the side of a road".
14:25 mircea_popescu pretty soon it's "we're too cool for our children to be killed off like the worthless shitbags they are"
14:25 mircea_popescu and from there on... anyone with a wrench can wrench a deal out of you.
14:25 decimation for some of them, they could be making more money not fixing things and hiring a guy
14:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: usually this happens to folks born 'into' money
14:25 decimation but that's a pretty restrcted set
14:26 mircea_popescu decimation the problem is exactly there : a roman citizen is required to be part of the army, even if he could serve the republic "better" elsewhere.
14:26 mircea_popescu the point is specifically to be able to serve everywhere, so to speak,
14:26 mircea_popescu because the relative value of things can't really be fixed.
14:26 mircea_popescu chetty likely not.
14:27 * asciilifeform points out that this was the situation in ussr. virtually everyone was technically reserve corps.
14:27 mircea_popescu decimation but you see the signs of decadence much closer to home : the moment people start shying away from calling someone a cunt in the street, because o noes, we're civilised now. that's it.
14:27 mircea_popescu compare the father with the son in cat on a hot tin roof. that's it.
14:27 mircea_popescu what, big daddy doesn't know what bum love is ? yes he does.
14:28 mircea_popescu he may not be talking too much or too loud\ly about it because of that shithead ida, and her unwanted, unwelcome and damaging "love", but otherwise...
14:31 decimation in other words each household needs to keep its own shit in order
14:33 asciilifeform http://cryptome.org/2014/07/cryptokey-refusal-prosecution.htm << mega-lol. 'surrender card.'
14:35 asciilifeform (what's that? this - http://longstreet.typepad.com/thesciencebookstore/2010/11/propaganda-and-surrender-tickets-world-war-ii-1953-1945-part-i.html)
14:38 decimation ascii so the point is that the court can dodge questions of "what exactly are you charging me with?" by making a grand-jury circus?
14:38 asciilifeform decimation: this is SOP in usa
14:40 asciilifeform decimation: which is why, with the possible exception of folks who can cough up astoundingly large ransom, falling into the hands of u.s. 'justice' system should be thought of as equivalent to ending up in a gestapo dungeon.
14:41 decimation speaking of which, whatever happened to that guy who was convicted of possessing silver coins?
14:42 asciilifeform possessing? or selling
14:42 asciilifeform that was von NotHaus
14:42 asciilifeform ^ http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2011/04/financial-totalitarianism.html
14:42 assbot ClubOrlov: Financial Totalitarianism
14:43 decimation yeah him, did they actually sentance him
14:44 decimation http://www.titanians.org/bernard-von-nothaus-seeks-acquittal-new-trial/
14:44 assbot Bernard von NotHaus Seeks Acquittal, New Trial Ā» Titania - the Open Source Ethical Society
14:44 mircea_popescu <decimation> ascii so the point is that the court can dodge questions of "what exactly are you charging me with?" by making a grand-jury circus? << the principle is that "the people" can charge you with w/o the shit they want.
14:44 mircea_popescu the exact equivalent of jury nullification
14:44 mircea_popescu grand jury enactication.
14:47 decimation yeah that's scary
14:47 mircea_popescu decimation well if it wants to be a republic, it gotta be a republic.
14:48 asciilifeform this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
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14:48 mircea_popescu "Unless you have been through this, with much of it kept secret to protect means and methods of investigation and prosecution, prepare for an exciting first time on the actual hot seat, not on TV or online where hypnotic disinfo rules and seduces the unwary to believe tickling the comsec tiger's tail is fantasic rep building." <<< heh.
14:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what do you perceive the difference being, between military and legal ?
14:49 asciilifeform when at war, your perspective on what happens if you fall into enemy hands isn't 'know the magic incantations that will force them to let me go'
14:49 mircea_popescu no, it's the "know the magic incantation that'll make them rue the day they messed with me so close"
14:50 asciilifeform the magic incantation in that case is adequate fire support
14:50 mircea_popescu not strictly.
14:50 mircea_popescu try capturing chtulhu. hey everyone! free insanity today, and all get seconds!
14:51 asciilifeform when (imho undeservedly) famous social engineer k. mitnick was captured, the jailers actually believed he was a chtulhu
14:51 asciilifeform he was, famously, denied the traditional 'last phone call'
14:51 mircea_popescu lol
14:51 asciilifeform for fear of magic words!
14:52 decimation he has magic hacking powers, give him the a. ames treatment!
14:52 asciilifeform or, to quite relevant film, 'what good is a phone call mr. andersen, if you have no mouth...'
14:53 mircea_popescu if only it were that easy.
14:53 mircea_popescu i mean obviously, the king's ministers, no matter how cornered, will attempt to put forth the theory of how dominant their kingdom actually is.
14:53 thestringpuller lol it is that easy
14:53 mircea_popescu this has some trouble getting past things such as you know, that wikileaks guy.
14:54 mircea_popescu if the kingdom actually worked like teh king's ministers propose it does, i wouldn't be looking into the yard of the king's minister's wife at the car of the guy the minister doesn't know she fucks
14:54 mircea_popescu sort of thing.
14:54 jurov so if ascii gets jailed for jaywalking, we shall expect another national guard gathering?
14:55 asciilifeform lol
14:55 asciilifeform my understanding is, the most one can hope for, if you aren't chtulhu, assanger, mircea_popescu - when the wagen comes, is to die with honour, without implicating other partizans
14:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform or you could blog about it.
14:56 * asciilifeform should practice blogging while hanging upside down with gag
14:57 mircea_popescu well now... here's the thing... you can't be talking while you're not able to talk, right ?
14:57 mircea_popescu and if you are able to talk, who's going to be able to control what you say, and to whom ?
14:57 jurov hm.. i guess when patent trolls come for cardano, there are better ways than seppuku
14:57 mircea_popescu perhaps you need your computers, perhaps you need access to a certain server, who's to know.
14:57 jurov ?
14:58 mircea_popescu this isn't nearly as cut and dried a matter as the usg likes to pretend (forced mistake, it has no alternative than to so pretend).
14:58 mircea_popescu exactly the same problems that limit the mob limit the government, and can be used identically.
14:59 decimation for instance they haven't managed to jail this von nothaus guy yet
15:00 decimation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=argq_cxalZ8
15:00 assbot Interview: Bernard von NotHaus - YouTube
15:00 asciilifeform wait, he's outside of a jail ?!
15:00 decimation apparently he was convicted but never sentanced
15:00 asciilifeform yeah, but where's he now
15:01 asciilifeform walking the globe without a gps collar ?
15:01 decimation well according to this interview in miami on 1 feb 2014
15:01 decimation I suspect he has no passport
15:02 asciilifeform so there we go. he's in 'Š±Š¾Š»ŃŒŃˆŠ°Ń Š·Š¾Š½Š°' (the big jail.)
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15:02 asciilifeform (soviet term, in contrast to the 'little jail' - a jail in the usual sense; the big one - ussr.)
15:03 decimation "we are coming up to march 2014, so I've been waiting 3 years to be sentenced, this is most unusual. Usually in a federal case you are incarcerated within 60 days after being found guilty."
15:03 decimation usg must be scared of something
15:04 asciilifeform in cases like his, it is traditional for the inquisitor to make a series of offers to lighten punishment substantially in exchange for agent recruitment
15:04 asciilifeform (aka turning stoolie)
15:04 asciilifeform we can surmise that he refused one or more, but they aren't done yet
15:05 asciilifeform so i don't see 'scared' - only 'patient.'
15:06 asciilifeform if nothaus is cut loose, we should expect him to turn up eventually in the role of a karpeles or brock pierce.
15:07 decimation well I tend to agree with your point about recruitment, but it's not clear to me what he is going to be recruited to do exactly.
15:08 decimation an enterprising defense team would have him start another altcoin for the purpose of turning against it
15:08 asciilifeform we'll know what it is once inquisitor makes up his mind, and nothaus surrenders
15:08 decimation why didn't folks attempt to leave the "big jail" during ussr times?
15:09 asciilifeform they certainly did.
15:09 decimation seems like that would be the thing to do
15:09 asciilifeform many of the same issues facing folks who want to leave usa.
15:09 asciilifeform (a trip requires a destination)
15:09 decimation I guess it's hard to escape with family intact
15:14 asciilifeform back to the treatment of nothaus - this was SOP for dissident types, at least post-stalin. you land, not in a jail cell, but a comfortable 'hotel room', where no one hangs you upside down, no! - but well-dressed, educated fellows have little chats with you over good coffee - to make you 'see reason.'
15:14 thestringpuller decimation: that's very depressing :(
15:15 asciilifeform if you 'see reason' - you're a free man. get to keep doing what you were doing. except with a little microphone listening, or the like.
15:15 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> we can surmise that he refused one or more, but they aren't done yet << something like that.
15:16 mircea_popescu <decimation> I guess it's hard to escape with family intact << people with families have no business escaping.
15:16 mircea_popescu their job is to work the soil and make babies.
15:16 asciilifeform this is why a man with a profession that puts him in range of escape was required to have family.
15:16 mircea_popescu quite.
15:17 asciilifeform e.g. diplomats, military attaches, competitive athletes
15:17 thestringpuller what if you don't want to make babies?
15:17 decimation yes, their fate is to stand and take whatever comes I suppose
15:17 asciilifeform thestringpuller: then you don't get posted abroad.
15:17 mircea_popescu thestringpuller then eiher it's not a family, you're being forced to or you will be forced to.
15:18 asciilifeform incidentally, pretty much none of the above were sent abroad with actual wives, children
15:18 asciilifeform they'd get theatrical ones
15:18 decimation spies, presumably
15:18 asciilifeform as diplomat, your 'wife' might actually be someone whose only job is to shoot you in the head if you start to 'turn.'
15:18 thestringpuller sounds like huxley's world would make that a moot issue (humans bred in tanks)
15:19 thestringpuller it also seems being an orphan is more beneficial in that regard too...
15:20 mircea_popescu thestringpuller well tbh, i dun see why i'd have wanted to leave huxley's world. just hang out with the boss guy down at the bar.
15:20 asciilifeform note that the analogy is not exact. the american equivalent of a soviet job with travel privileges would be, say, the right to own significant foreign (or theoretically liquid enough to become foreign) assets
15:20 asciilifeform as this enables escape
15:21 decimation http://galtsgulchchile.com/ << like these guys
15:21 assbot Galt's Gulch Chile - To your freedoms
15:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what, like bitcoin ?
15:21 decimation you can own, you just have to confess to usg you have them
15:21 asciilifeform decimation: honeypot
15:21 asciilifeform like 'citadel'
15:22 thestringpuller asciilifeform: couldn't one in america escape through...non traditional means?
15:22 thestringpuller i'm implying illegal passports.
15:22 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/big-numbers-random-numbers-and-whos-got-your-number/#comment-103357 << kid found a romanian btc atm, wants to know why some derp did it and not i. well.. i'm lazy.
15:22 assbot Big numbers, random numbers and whoā€™s got your number ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
15:22 mircea_popescu but i follow the link. huge title "Bitcoin will be partially or totally controlled". ie, by some govt.
15:22 mircea_popescu herp.
15:22 asciilifeform thestringpuller: you probably heard that many 'gulag' facilities were not guarded at all.
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15:22 asciilifeform the snow, bears, starvation - do the guarding.
15:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform people's own dumb heads do the guarding.
15:23 mircea_popescu nothing to stop one from walking to mexico right now
15:23 mircea_popescu oh, but... THE BEARS
15:23 mircea_popescu and lions and tigers - oh my!
15:23 decimation yeah I suspect walking to mexico is easier than the reverse
15:23 thestringpuller there is a lot to stop you walking from mexico back into the states tho...
15:23 asciilifeform nothing to stop the zek from walking into the permafrost, either
15:24 decimation one would need iron balls to do it I guess
15:24 mircea_popescu EcoChav: these girls are going to be using SWARM to raise funds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWTXht6doPM <<
15:24 assbot California Kale Collective SWARM - YouTube
15:24 mircea_popescu i propose a new highschool charter. it teaches kids nothing, but smacks them every time they use "going to"
15:24 asciilifeform for most americans, walking to mexico would involve having to work for a living - a punishment far harsher than anything they do in jails here
15:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but arbeit macht frei!
15:25 asciilifeform lol
15:25 thestringpuller i recently heard of a city in siberia that utilizes more energy to keep the city warm and operate than it would if people just commuted 100's of miles to operate the factories there...
15:26 asciilifeform thestringpuller: norilsk ?
15:26 thestringpuller Yes!
15:26 thestringpuller that's the one
15:26 thestringpuller lol
15:27 thestringpuller usually never gets above 70
15:27 thestringpuller F
15:27 asciilifeform - ?
15:27 thestringpuller oh during the yeart
15:28 thestringpuller like in july the highest it'll get is like in the 10's to 20's C
15:28 decimation ascii have you seen "Happy People: a year in the taiga"?
15:28 asciilifeform nope
15:28 decimation this guy Werner Herzon tours the River Yenisei and finds people who live off the land
15:29 decimation they would have walked out of the gulag without a second thought
15:29 decimation s/Herzon/Herzog
15:29 thestringpuller Herzog is one kinda character...
15:29 thestringpuller He makes some of the best documentaries though.
15:36 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what, like bitcoin ? << ameri-zek could escape if he had 10^7 usd or 10^4 bitcoin, say. but he won't ever see either, 'like his own ears without a mirror.'
15:37 asciilifeform now, if you're willing to live like a feral dog, it isn't even necessary to leave the country. i recall, a few years ago, an article about one fellow who lived in a dugout in a u.s. national park. for ~30 years. he was caught by pure chance.
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15:38 asciilifeform tourist noticed a puff of smoke coming from a tree stump.
15:39 asciilifeform (it was his chimney. disguised partizan-style.)
15:39 asciilifeform if tourist hadn't strayed miles from the road, if wind had been stronger - the dugout would be there still, with its inhabitant.
15:40 decimation that's long enough to claim adverse possession in many states
15:40 asciilifeform not on federal land
15:41 asciilifeform and, in many (most?) states, adverse possession is virtually impossible to pull off (title holder must be aware of the squatter and do nothing for xx years)
15:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform 10k btc ? foreals ?
15:41 asciilifeform see dugout man above
15:41 asciilifeform he needed 0 btc
15:41 mircea_popescu the point is to live like a feral dog AND leave the country.
15:41 asciilifeform but paid with other things
15:41 mircea_popescu you gotta break the circle of "is necessary"
15:42 mircea_popescu that's what the dam is built out of. convenience.
15:42 mircea_popescu inconvenience yourself and you'll be free, but otherwise, you're predictable, and in being predictable you'll be a tool.
15:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: elaborate?
15:42 mircea_popescu on which part ?
15:43 decimation yeah that's what most of the "early retirement" folks advocate. if you can live on $20k per year you can retire now if you have any assets to speak of
15:43 asciilifeform decimation: the 20k still have to come from somewhere.
15:43 asciilifeform if they come from my being a stonemason in mexico city, as far as i can tell i'm then already in a jail
15:43 mircea_popescu decimation most of humanity lives on less than ten bux a week.
15:43 mircea_popescu that's... 500 a year
15:44 decimation they can even pay to have their kids escape to the great 'el norte'
15:44 mircea_popescu somehow.
15:44 mircea_popescu not all do, notice.
15:44 asciilifeform the other thing mexicans, eskimos, whoever, anyone but homo americanus have is - tribe.
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15:44 asciilifeform strength in numbers
15:44 asciilifeform lone ant - dies
15:45 asciilifeform anthill lives.
15:45 mircea_popescu lone and dies happy.
15:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.185 = 0.925 BTC [+]
15:46 decimation the eastern metropolis is especially bad on this count. high population density but everyone is alone
15:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: let's say you were on the other side of the wire. my side. and you could escape, if you turned on that 'dulap' and gave up... cock&balls.
15:46 asciilifeform now, is that life?
15:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i tend to break things.
15:47 mircea_popescu there's very little doubt in my mind that if i were in the sort of situation most folk over there enjoy, i'd simply be shooting people.
15:48 asciilifeform i recently went to a zoo, where they had cheetahs. one cheetah was a little different from the others. every time i see him, he's clearly preoccupied with looking for a hole in the fence.
15:48 asciilifeform if he were a russian 'zek', he'd have a red stripe in his id papers.
15:48 asciilifeform 'ŠæŠ¾Š±ŠµŠ³ŃƒŃˆŠ½ŠøŠŗ'
15:48 mircea_popescu which ironically makes the entire "terrorist" thing quite appropriate, except, i wouldn't shot them for the show (which is what terrorism implies, that you kill people for no reason than to impress other people). i'd do it because their continued existence is incompatible with mine.
15:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform did i ever tell you about the two pellicans ?
15:49 asciilifeform ?
15:49 decimation which is exactly the attitude that the us used to have back in the pioneer days
15:49 decimation before they were won by the English...
15:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform my only lingering regret from my days in costa rica is that one day i've visited a bird reserve. a large geodome sorta thing with a lot of birds in it.
15:50 mircea_popescu among which two pelicans. which had figured where the door was, and what a door is. and were angling together to perhaps scare a dumbass tourist and manage to get out.
15:50 mircea_popescu i have no idea why i didn't just take the birds across.
15:50 asciilifeform lol!
15:50 asciilifeform are they any good - to eat?
15:51 mircea_popescu i guess a lot of foreign military officers wondered why they've not simply shot hitler at any point in the 30s, just walk up to him and boom.
15:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform im sure they couldn't have survived in ther wild, but i dun see why that should matter.
15:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i recall at least two who wrote just this
15:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform im sure the reason is exactly like the discussion re the altcoin
15:51 mircea_popescu by the time you realise you should have it's too late.
15:51 asciilifeform naturally.
15:52 mircea_popescu there's actually an oglaf on the topic, too
15:56 mircea_popescu http://media.oglaf.com/comic/chronotherapy.jpg
15:56 asciilifeform lol, i recall this one.
15:57 mircea_popescu guy shooting hitler would necessarily live in an alt-universe where shooting hitler's death is not justified by hitler being hitler, and so on.
15:57 mircea_popescu this is a major reason to not punish murder, imo.
15:57 mircea_popescu maybe the murderer had a point.
15:57 mircea_popescu certainly murder of political figures is always justified on the face. they were, after all, political figures.
15:57 decimation I suppose that's the point of jury nullification
15:58 mircea_popescu yeah but it mixes the people in there. what'd the people know.
15:58 mircea_popescu 1930s german jury'd have not nulified hitler murder.
15:59 decimation well, in the village the people would know, not in the city
15:59 mircea_popescu this is such nonsense.
15:59 mircea_popescu vilage people are actualy a lot dumber than city people. they just have much fewer avenues to display their inanity.
15:59 mircea_popescu it's a case of 0.5 / 0.25 appearing larger than 1/1
16:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13636 @ 0.0008003 = 10.9129 BTC [-]
16:06 mircea_popescu hey danielpbarron, what do you do for a living ?
16:07 danielpbarron I have a seasonal warehouse job
16:07 mircea_popescu do you wanna get paid to derp on the interwebs ?
16:07 danielpbarron maybe
16:08 mircea_popescu do tell ?
16:08 danielpbarron yeah; sounds very interesting
16:09 mircea_popescu okay, what i want you to do is create a bunch of handles in various forums (i'll tell you which) and participate in the discussion.
16:09 mircea_popescu don't spam, make sense, bring in the various good points we know about the world doesn't, bitcoin, b-a, bitbet, mpex, etc.
16:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00079762 = 1.4357 BTC [-]
16:10 danielpbarron so just tell the truth?
16:10 mircea_popescu pretty much.
16:10 mircea_popescu i don't pay people to lie, they do that on their own & for free.
16:11 danielpbarron what are the terms? how much money; how frequently?
16:12 mircea_popescu you can spend the rest of your days doing it for all i care, 24/7. you're to report each weekend and i'll pay you mondays.
16:14 danielpbarron which forums?
16:15 mircea_popescu start with warriorforum.com, gfy.com and lessee... bodybuilding.com
16:15 mircea_popescu that should keep you busy for a day or two.
16:17 mircea_popescu and more generally, if anyone's currently wasting a lot of time derping online and would like to make a job of it... say so.
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16:18 asciilifeform bodybuilding.com !?
16:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's a lot you don't know :
16:18 mircea_popescu :)
16:18 asciilifeform certainly is
16:19 mircea_popescu that thing's massive, about the size of a bodybuilder.
16:19 benkay mircea_popescu: DERPs are backstopped to the sum of BTC brought in by sales of DERP shares, is that correct?
16:19 mircea_popescu danielpbarron if there's religious interest forums you know that i don't / other stuff you're already doing feel free to throw that into the mix.
16:20 mircea_popescu benkay nah.
16:20 benkay backstopped by your reputation and promise to pay?
16:20 mircea_popescu they're backstopped by f.derp's assets.
16:21 benkay so all of the D series is backstopped by all of f.derp
16:21 mircea_popescu yeah.
16:21 mircea_popescu basically if each individual issue goes up 2x in btc, then it's just about wiped.
16:21 mircea_popescu if one issue goes up 100x in usd and btc goes up 10x and there's 10 issues, then it's just about wiped.
16:21 mircea_popescu etc
16:22 benkay gotcha thanks
16:24 mircea_popescu ;;seen duffer1
16:24 gribble duffer1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 51 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <Duffer1> speaking of.. i haven't heard any ripple news in a while..
16:25 mircea_popescu ;;later tell duffer1 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770682
16:25 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
16:25 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:25 jurov what, F.DERP is/will be actual asset?
16:25 mircea_popescu jurov yes.
16:25 mircea_popescu so one can take either end. this was discussed in teh logs!!1
16:26 thestringpuller we short using normal methods? (asking you to borrow shares on margin?)
16:26 thestringpuller ^ mircea_popescu
16:26 mircea_popescu thestringpuller short what ?
16:27 thestringpuller DERPS
16:27 mircea_popescu you short the derps globally by buying f.derp. or i guess individually by borrowing them from someone that bough them
16:27 jurov i try to read everything but my subconscious tends to skip it :(
16:27 jurov it is apparently interested in politics and cultural anthropology
16:27 benkay i like the finance stuff
16:27 thestringpuller okay makes sense thanks mircea_popescu
16:27 benkay can't be arsed with scamwatch
16:28 mircea_popescu benkay kinda why division of labour is unavoidable.
16:29 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: specialization is for insects
16:29 mircea_popescu yeah well.
16:30 chetty ever notice how much big apt buildings look like beehives?
16:34 mircea_popescu http://media.oglaf.com/ads/ad-reproductivestrategy.png
16:35 fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/fiDoDT6.jpg
16:35 mircea_popescu lol good for you.
16:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.18649999 = 0.746 BTC [+] {3}
16:39 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 645 @ 0.00166597 = 1.0746 BTC [-] {4}
16:41 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 500 @ 0.001695 = 0.8475 BTC [+] {3}
16:42 chetty <asciilifeform> for most americans, walking to mexico would involve having to work for a living - a punishment far harsher than anything they do in jails here// walking over the border to Mexico is actually pretty easy
16:42 mircea_popescu http://legacy-control.com/comics/2014-07-22-The-Nest.jpg
16:43 mircea_popescu http://legacy-control.com/comic/girl-dreams/
16:43 assbot Girl Dreams ā€“ Legacy Control
16:45 mircea_popescu http://nedroid.com/2014/03/music-and-words/
16:45 assbot Nedroid Picture Diary
16:47 DreadKnight really fun comic that legacy-control one
16:47 mircea_popescu o you know it ?
16:49 DreadKnight now I do; bookmarked
16:49 mircea_popescu :p
16:50 DreadKnight need to recall what comics I used to follow besides xkcd
16:53 DreadKnight http://explosm.net/comics/ (newest one is lame though)
16:53 assbot Cyanide & Happiness #3629 - Explosm.net
17:02 chetty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjGGS5L8NhU#t=23
17:02 assbot Mary Poppins Quits: The Rebuttal (w/ Remy) - YouTube
17:02 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.189 = 1.323 BTC [+]
17:03 asciilifeform chetty: that train of thought was about what one is to do -in- mexico.
17:05 asciilifeform it isn't hard (presently...) to physically leave usa.
17:08 jurov did anyone mention the homeland can always ask to extradite you?
17:13 jurov lol this chan causes its own slashdot effect now? legacy-control.com is slow and throws errors
17:14 chetty <asciilifeform> it isn't hard (presently...) to physically leave usa.// you'll never really know until you try
17:14 benkay chetty you were a usian once, non?
17:15 chetty indeed benkay
17:19 benkay chetty: and no longer?
17:20 benkay mircea_popescu: per http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-june-statement/#footnote_1_55436 will the coverage be tracked for each D.*?
17:20 assbot F.DERP June Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
17:23 DreadKnight finally found it http://kindofnormal.com
17:23 assbot Kind of Normal
17:23 asciilifeform chetty: you'll never really know until you try << well, for whatever it's worth, i did manage to actually get in the airplane (instead of a waiting gasenwagen) in april. to, i admit, a little bit of surprise. but who knows about next time.
17:24 FabianB ;;ticker --currency eur --last
17:24 gribble 444.5262
17:25 chetty good job asciilifeform, I am not so sure the gasenwagen will be a joke much longer
17:25 asciilifeform gasenwagen, unfortunately, was always real. but it has triage.
17:26 chetty benkay, havent been back in a decade
17:27 thestringpuller it's funny how a decade ago is 2004
17:27 thestringpuller i definitely feel old
17:27 thestringpuller thanks chetty thanks a lot :P
17:28 benkay chetty: d'you pay taxes? still have a US passport?
17:28 benkay feel free to tell me to get stuffed with my questions
17:29 * asciilifeform is, in case anyone didn't know, still walking 'the big zone.'
17:29 benkay ;;ud "the big zone"
17:29 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Danger%20Zone | When you are in a dangerous situation i.e. the danger zone. ... After ripping the big one, Timmy had one thing to say: "Danger Zone!" (Everyone immediatly leftĀ ...
17:29 asciilifeform benkay: nope.
17:29 asciilifeform benkay: Š±Š¾Š»ŃŒŃˆŠ°Ń Š·Š¾Š½Š°.
17:30 asciilifeform benkay: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770509
17:30 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
17:30 benkay ah ah
17:30 chetty benkay, yup and yup
17:30 asciilifeform the starred-and-striped big zone.
17:31 chetty isnt that the big gulag?
17:31 benkay chetty: you wouldn't be paying state taxes, though, correct? just federal?
17:31 chetty yup, they get you on fed tax for 10 years even if you give up passport
17:32 thestringpuller could always be like voorhees and revoke citizenship
17:32 benkay chetty: i am aware of that bit, yes.
17:32 benkay but the "no state taxes" thing is no small bonus.
17:32 benkay what's the tax situation like in Argentina?
17:33 asciilifeform thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. law is a 'god that died.'
17:33 chetty nasty taxes here, and huge hits for moving money in/out of country
17:34 benkay what is "nasty taxes"?
17:34 benkay and lolya i can imagine moving fiat into or out of ars would be an expensive proposition.
17:35 chetty well not sure what the local income tax is, dont have a local job yet but 35% to take any money out of country
17:35 chetty oh and a wealth tax ..5% of whatever you have over some amount
17:36 benkay is that a one-time-thing or more like the 0.5% of "assets under mgmt"
17:36 benkay that hits the fund investor every year
17:37 chetty assets, and it goes up % wise at some point too, not really sure where all the gates are. I just keep my head down
17:38 benkay 1.25 above 5'000'000 AR$
17:38 benkay interesting stuff, chetty.
17:39 thestringpuller Is this why pirates bury their gold?
17:39 chetty thestringpuller, exactly
17:39 benkay no need to bury things anymore
17:40 benkay it's *all* buried now.
17:40 benkay i do look forward to constructing my last will testament and treasure hunt to reconstruct my offline keys
17:40 kuzetsa burried treasure is a myth
17:40 kuzetsa pirates don't do that
17:41 asciilifeform kuzetsa: buried treasure is real, but generally results from folks who bury goodies and then get killed before they can make any use of them.
17:41 asciilifeform like the pots of gold still sometimes found in digs of roman villas
17:41 asciilifeform they did not save their owners.
17:42 benkay !t h rent
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17:42 cazalla DreadKnight, i quit when Nikasaur left :\
17:43 asciilifeform kuzetsa: still not unheard of, in russia: a construction crew, tearing up a 19th c. apartment building, finding cigar boxes with thick stacks of pre-revolution rubles, silver coins, etc.
17:43 DreadKnight cazalla, why? xD she thinks she can do better writing crappy stuff and getting funded on patreon.com apparently
17:43 asciilifeform no prizes for guessing fate of the owner.
17:45 kuzetsa fine fine, yeah... it has happened, and more than just pirates have done the "bury something to keep it safe" tactic, but just because it's common enough that it's "not unheard of" doesn't make it "actually a common practice"
17:45 cazalla DreadKnight, was just coincidence but c'mon, who doesn't wann bang trashy gamer girls like her
17:46 DreadKnight http://www.patreon.com/nikaharper
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17:46 DreadKnight cazalla, I agree; she's quite hot and fun
17:46 kuzetsa O_O
17:47 DreadKnight anyway, 1600$+ a month just because; for writing; that's like 3 romanian full time jobs; I got 0 on there so far
17:47 DreadKnight the power of bewbs.
17:47 kuzetsa I suspect it's more than just "being female"
17:47 DreadKnight it's a bit more, yeah
17:48 kuzetsa some non-zero entertainment value in the produced content
17:48 DreadKnight though she has popularity, without that crowd funding websites are pretty useless
17:48 cazalla DreadKnight, someone like her doing bitcoin news on youtube would get views instead of that ditzy asian girl on followthecoin
17:48 kuzetsa well-connected and good at marketing (social media or otherwise) is probably more to do with it than "the power of boobs"
17:49 DreadKnight cazalla, considered doing something like that with a chick I know that looks like the Dark Queen from Battletoads; got equipment and such
17:49 DreadKnight will check the asian girl you mentioned
17:49 kuzetsa equipment?
17:49 DreadKnight camera / lights / green screen
17:49 kuzetsa oh
17:49 kuzetsa yeah, I have that
17:50 cazalla DreadKnight, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPwPnWlQXSU
17:50 assbot Bitcoin Below $400, Massive Security Breach, 4,000 Merchants, and Congress - YouTube
17:50 kuzetsa but it's mostly used for photographing inventory stuff for <name>'s online store
17:51 cazalla DreadKnight, that's her, bit too skinny for me but looks ok, just lacking personality that someone like Nikasaur has, tits + her enthusiasm would do well imo
17:51 * benkay gags
17:51 benkay moiety'd do better.
17:51 kuzetsa yeah, having a decent personality & being able to market one's self is good
17:51 kuzetsa *cough* iJustine
17:52 cazalla benkay, with that accent? for sure
17:52 DreadKnight cazalla, yeah, was just checking out some of the vids, she's so-so
17:53 DreadKnight kuzetsa, ijustine kinda annoys me sometimes, too much of a crapple fan girl
17:53 kuzetsa huh
17:54 kuzetsa speaking of annoying, I've never seen a "follow the coin" video before
17:54 cazalla how about miss hannah minx?
17:54 DreadKnight cazalla, lol; there's also "hot for words", another youtube show about cleavage pretending to be educational
17:54 kuzetsa not sure it's always the same person, but I jsut watched the one cazalla linked like 5 minutes ago, and the constant jumping-around shot from 20 billion camera angles per paragraph was giving me a headache
17:55 DreadKnight sounds like what Michael Bay does with Transformers
17:55 cazalla DreadKnight, seen that, not my type though
17:55 kuzetsa cazalla: I'm unfamiliar with hannah minx
17:56 kuzetsa cazalla: privmsg
17:56 cazalla kuzetsa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIt_hedcBTc
17:56 assbot JWOW - Let's Exercise! (^o^)b - YouTube
17:56 DreadKnight kuzetsa, small brunette, big blue eyes, big tits that always make it into the shot and juggle around, cute stuff, lots of japanese-anime words, a doge
17:56 cazalla you can post that in channel kuzetsa
17:56 DreadKnight jiggle*
17:57 DreadKnight and a lot of cleavage*
17:57 DreadKnight and top-to-down camera angle
17:57 DreadKnight bird eye view
17:58 DreadKnight all comments are about sex and boobs usually on her vids
18:00 benkay just to throw a spanner into the works, mircea_popescu, i imagine the d-series do not pay out in the event that the companies use XCP or some such to list
18:00 cazalla kuzetsa PM me, thinks i'm slut shaming these women lol
18:01 DreadKnight haha
18:01 DreadKnight they do that on their own as a hobby / job
18:02 DreadKnight every social thing has quite a few of such women
18:02 cazalla http://pastebin.com/gQhzUfkp we could've had this conversation in here kuzetsa
18:02 assbot <kuzetsa> "... but c'mon, who doesn't wann bang trashy gamer girls like her" <k - Pastebin.com
18:02 benkay faminist!
18:03 benkay starve 'em all out.
18:03 benkay i'm a faminist too, kuzetsa
18:03 mircea_popescu <jurov> lol this chan causes its own slashdot effect now? legacy-control.com is slow and throws errors << prolly cause of the log watching ppls.
18:03 mircea_popescu <benkay> mircea_popescu: per http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-june-statement/#footnote_1_55436 will the coverage be tracked for each D.*? << that q made no sense.
18:03 assbot F.DERP June Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
18:03 kuzetsa cazalla: oh uhm... well allright then
18:04 kuzetsa I can have the discussion here instead if you really prefer
18:04 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> gasenwagen, unfortunately, was always real. but it has triage. <<< you failed to qualify ?
18:04 kuzetsa I just know in #bitcoin that personal disputes and whatnot are generally expected to be done in privmsg
18:05 benkay mircea_popescu: is "cover" for all d-series contracts or is it reserved per contract?
18:05 * kuzetsa refers to cazalla's pastebin for reference
18:05 kuzetsa wow, how dose that already have over views?
18:05 benkay eg: 50B of cover for D.BPAY, 0.2 of cover for D.BTGO
18:06 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. la << actually, aren't they derping about various russian citizens sanctions and whatnot ?
18:06 kuzetsa cazalla: so as per privmsg, I don't understand why you called me a faggot
18:06 DreadKnight kuzetsa, that bitcoin channel seems to be dying lately, too quiet, dogecoin more fun
18:06 kuzetsa benkay: what's a faminist?
18:06 kuzetsa [18:01:35] <cazalla> no matter how many men you throw under the bus, being a feminist is not going to lead to them fucking you
18:06 kuzetsa [18:01:59] <kuzetsa> what?
18:06 kuzetsa [18:02:42] <kuzetsa> huh, noticed just now that I typoed on feminist... is "faminist" a word I'm just unfamiliar with?
18:06 kuzetsa [18:03:14] <kuzetsa> is that misspelling a word and it means something? it really was just a typo, I didn't mean to confuse.
18:07 mircea_popescu <DreadKnight> cazalla, why? xD she thinks she can do better writing crappy stuff and getting funded on patreon.com apparently << such idiocy.
18:07 cazalla kuzetsa, i'm not sure what the problem is?
18:07 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, was expecting you would say that
18:08 kuzetsa cazalla: well I don't understand what you're saying about men fucking me (or not) because I throw them under a bus or whatever... or why you called me a faggot
18:09 cazalla kuzetsa, i thought you were saying you're a feminist and that i use slut shaming language
18:09 cazalla fwiw, i don't object to nikasaur dressing trashy
18:09 kuzetsa your definition of "trashy", and how you used it sure did sound like slut shaming
18:09 cazalla but it is trashy
18:10 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, most people only care about charisma and looks and that's why they fund her, not really interested in her writing; it's nice she does what she likes but that's different from what she's good at apparently
18:10 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, saying "such idiocy" to whatever I say without arguments doesn't bring much to the table of conversation
18:11 kuzetsa cazalla: mostly I'm just confused about why feminism = faggot (that logical jump confuses me)
18:11 benkay there's nothing wrong with being trashy
18:11 benkay connotations are all in your head
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18:11 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, you're probably offended because you're a blogger yourself, but since you started blogging apparently you flamed more popular bloggers, so even you agree that not everyone should be writing stuff publicly :P
18:11 benkay excessive rouge, lipstick, heels, etc. it's a good look on the right chick.
18:12 DreadKnight and tattoos
18:12 benkay yeah sure - tattoos are great as well
18:12 kuzetsa benkay: a lot of women chose to dress how they dress, wear their hair, makeup, tatoos, clothes, etc. for themselves, not for the benefit of others
18:12 cazalla yeah, i like it on the right girl but i describe it as trashy, nfi why kuzetsa would take offense
18:12 benkay it's clearly not for others.
18:12 benkay doesn't mean we're not watching and watched ourselves.
18:13 benkay i do a pile of sales. constantly. *i* dress for others.
18:13 * kuzetsa nods
18:13 benkay when I didn't, I didn't.
18:13 benkay ripped jeans, mohawk, the works.
18:13 cazalla kuzetsa, because imo feminists are faggots eg andreas derpopolous
18:14 kuzetsa choices about outwardly expressing whatever self-image one has about ones self (and/or other reasons for dressing one way or another) just doesn't seem like a friendly thing to use as a basis for labeling someone as "trashy"
18:14 DreadKnight internet is full of porn, girls who undress on webcam; dressing slutty = more attention; ( . ) ( . ) = $$$
18:14 benkay look there's a hobo on the street
18:14 benkay he's clearly not dressing for anyone
18:14 benkay and he's also clearly trashy
18:15 benkay ofc my definition of such is going to differ from someone else's
18:15 mircea_popescu DreadKnight i have nfi who this is. pics ?
18:15 benkay but i'll not be told to not speak my opinion of stuff.
18:15 mircea_popescu and in any case, i'm not offended.
18:16 mircea_popescu <benkay> excessive rouge, lipstick, heels, etc. it's a good look on the right chick. << for sufficiently drunk guys :D
18:16 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, I linked near the quoted line, anyway seems you're too distracted to follow the conversation or reply overall, while others are debating about such women
18:16 kuzetsa I personally don't feel "trash" or "trashy" is a good way to refer to persons --- trash is refuse, waste, compost, scrap, things to be recycled, or a computer metaphor for marking something as "trash" to be staged for deletion (such as putting one's unwanted spam emails in the trash)
18:16 mircea_popescu kuzetsa so how does the logical jump work, from that to "not a good way to refer" ?
18:17 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, http://www.patreon.com/nikaharper so she got popular working for League of Legends, then she quit to write apparently
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18:17 cazalla kuzetsa, it's the right word because i'd fuck her and then throw her away, trash, not the sort of woman i'd bring home to meet my parents
18:17 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: it's dehumanizing to label someone as a term which is not inherently describing a state which is common to persons
18:17 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: to say that a person is "
18:17 benkay kuzetsa: ever met a girl who gets off on being degraded?
18:17 mircea_popescu DreadKnight just some random chick, i don't see anything special about her. why's she discussed in terms of hotness or wtf.
18:18 mircea_popescu kuzetsa of course it is. so ?
18:18 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: ...(oops, erroneously inserted a linebreak) "trash", or "trashy" is degrading to their personhood
18:18 mircea_popescu no, it's not. it merely claims to be. which, like all claims...
18:19 mircea_popescu saying someone's a scammer is similarly degrading to their personhood. that's no reason not to say it.
18:19 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: to say that a person is trash is to liken that person to being a disposable, unwanted, low-value thing, not a person
18:19 mircea_popescu yup.
18:19 mircea_popescu the only criterion is whether she actually is trashy, not whether her being trashy'd ruin whatever for her.
18:19 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, others find her special and hot, especially being nerdy gamer; I usually don't get why Megan Fox has many fans, but that's me
18:20 mircea_popescu DreadKnight well megan fox got teh tits on a thin frame.
18:20 mircea_popescu and also she acts well :D
18:20 mircea_popescu !up sexy_saffron
18:20 sexy_saffron hello!
18:20 kuzetsa hello
18:20 mircea_popescu hey there. we're in the middle of a trashy argument!
18:20 benkay !up fats_cd03
18:21 fluffypony who's seen Jodorowsky's Dune?
18:21 benkay this argument is trash.
18:21 sexy_saffron oh?
18:21 mircea_popescu DreadKnight anyway, the "idiocy" comment was re the patreon thing. the whole thing fundamentally doesn't work.
18:21 mircea_popescu people would really like it to work nevertheless, so every few years there's a new implementation
18:21 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, for me she's just a tunned up bitch, just seen some of her roles earlier and she was playing the bitch role actually
18:21 mircea_popescu which also fails to work.
18:21 mircea_popescu fluffypony i think i did
18:21 benkay (my dog just sneezed in his sleep and narrowly avoided rolling off the couch)
18:21 benkay (hilarity)
18:21 fluffypony just started, will report back afterwards
18:22 mircea_popescu but anyway, i'm not a blogger myself. i just happen to keep a blog.
18:22 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, thought you meant my argument because you didn't said much, I agree about patreon not working unless you're popular, it's a wanna be kickstarter basically, but lacks a few important things
18:22 kuzetsa sexy_saffron: yeah, "trash" conversation, in which my main objection is to degrading / defamatory / judgemental language being pointed at people due to clothing, hairstyle, personality, makeup, or whatever criterea is being used to target them in a dismissive manner :(
18:22 sexy_saffron ok
18:23 kuzetsa I wasn't intending to have the conversation publicly, but the other party whom I was trying to ask what they meant decided the privmsg contents should be copied onto a pastebin and shared with the whole channel
18:23 mircea_popescu people should be targeted in a dismissive manner. builds character.
18:23 sexy_saffron I agree
18:23 sexy_saffron honesty is cruel sometimes
18:23 cazalla kuzetsa, no reason for that conversation to occur in PM to begin with
18:23 kuzetsa there's a difference between constructive criticism, charcter building, harassment, bullying, and joking around
18:24 sexy_saffron definitely
18:24 mircea_popescu kuzetsa ilustrate ?
18:24 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: illustrate what?
18:24 mircea_popescu seems to me one man's constructive criticism is another man's harassment and bullying.
18:24 DreadKnight !up HeySteve
18:24 mircea_popescu afaik bingoboingo's got a trial coming up on this very point
18:24 DreadKnight HeySteve, it worked :D
18:24 fats_cd03 whats the point of pretending like we respect each other?
18:24 HeySteve gribble is full of shit tonight
18:24 mircea_popescu kuzetsa that difference. but make it absolute.
18:24 HeySteve thx DreadKnight
18:24 fats_cd03 its not the case IRL.
18:24 sexy_saffron there's a fine line between derision and harsh constructive criticism
18:24 kuzetsa wow I really can't follow this channel right now
18:25 HeySteve <+fluffypony> who's seen Jodorowsky's Dune? <- yeah that's a very interesting film. guy's a real character
18:25 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, so you poked that zoso guy on purpose to get in the spot light? marketing strategy?
18:25 kuzetsa this topic is apparently one which a lot of people are wanting to comment on
18:25 fats_cd03 is there some kind of internet etiquette insisting on politeness? i didnt check that box on install.
18:25 mircea_popescu sexy_saffron yeah but if it's not objectively drawn then might as well give up. people wil just claim hurtbutts to get out of things they don't want to hear.
18:25 sexy_saffron I haven't seen that but I like the dune adaptations
18:25 sexy_saffron oh ya, most people can't handle the truth
18:25 mircea_popescu DreadKnight i step on the heads of idiots. it's what i do. the only selection criteria is how lulzy they are and if im bored.
18:25 kuzetsa FWIW, the privmsg was in-part because the channel was kinda intense and I was having trouble filtering through this many words per minute
18:25 HeySteve kuzetsa, if you dress / act a certain way, you'll inevitably draw a reaction from others
18:26 mircea_popescu kuzetsa it gets nuts doesn't it. and it has the harshest voice model of any chan on freenode, too.
18:26 mircea_popescu no idea what we'll end up doing, because it won't let go im sure.
18:26 kuzetsa HeySteve: the "had it coming" defense about agressing on somebody verbally or otherwise, to their face or otherwise isn't one I consider to be valid
18:26 mircea_popescu on the grounds of what ?
18:26 sexy_saffron I think the best philosophy is to just stay true to yourself and not care what other people think, as cliche as that sounds
18:26 HeySteve kuzetsa, learning to evoke a positive reaction with your appearance / manner is just social intelligence
18:27 mircea_popescu sexy_saffron got it.
18:27 kuzetsa HeySteve: I'm a social idiot, quite arguably
18:27 mircea_popescu are you also a girl ?
18:27 fluffypony hah hah - HeySteve right at the beginning, and it's already classic - I wanted to do a movie that would give the people that took LSD at that time the hallucinations that you get with that drug, but without hallucinating. I did not want LSD to be taken, I wanted to fabricate the drug's effect."
18:27 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, he had a few arguments against you that could stand valid, but overall it felt like he was trying to protect his "#1 blogger by traffic" crown by trying to dis the new competition
18:27 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: old enough to be a grandmother, so no, not a girl
18:27 mircea_popescu DreadKnight so good for him.
18:27 mircea_popescu kuzetsa so good for you.
18:28 HeySteve lol yeah fluffypony, one artist apparently got tripped out just talking to Jodo, you'll see
18:28 mircea_popescu giving new meaning to "being chtulhu"
18:28 kuzetsa oooh, I like chtulhu (somewhat)
18:28 mircea_popescu what if there existed a chick that'd get one high by having sex, provided it's bareback.
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18:29 mircea_popescu possibly varying effects by the hole, too.
18:29 HeySteve mircea_popescu, I think that poison ivy in batman might fit the bill
18:29 mircea_popescu this should totally be a goddess. and yet... my memory fails me. is there such a goddess ?
18:29 DreadKnight HeySteve, ha, I kept telling people that, especially as advice to avoid online insults or even rape, but a lot of people insist in "I can dress the way I want, nobody should care; the raper is always the guilty one!", so I'm like "ok, good luck with that mentality"
18:30 mircea_popescu DreadKnight there's a difference between rappers and rapists.
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18:30 mircea_popescu sorry but it was just too good to pass on :D
18:30 DreadKnight kuzetsa, ha, knowing you're female makes the whole "faggot" thing funnier :D
18:30 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, yeah, thanks, typo
18:30 mircea_popescu yea srsly. cazalla there you go, pming old ladies to call them faggots. wtf's wrong with you lmao
18:30 DreadKnight HeySteve, s/raper/rapist xD
18:30 kuzetsa O_O
18:31 cazalla there's no women on the internet
18:31 sexy_saffron ?
18:31 mircea_popescu you know that's a very homoerotic belief.
18:31 * kuzetsa blushes
18:31 mircea_popescu cazalla ever tried it with a dude ?
18:31 kuzetsa wow, now I'm having yaoi-type thoughts about a few people
18:31 cazalla mircea_popescu, no but someone did want to in high school
18:32 mircea_popescu kuzetsa is that when underage boys rub foreskins or what was it ?
18:32 mircea_popescu my azn cartoons variety speak is shit.
18:32 mircea_popescu cazalla so why not try it out sometime then.
18:32 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: no, I think the genital VS genitals rubbing thing with penises (foreskins or otherwise) is called a frottage
18:32 mircea_popescu ;;ud yaoi
18:32 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Yaoi | Yaoi is a slang meaning 'boys love' or homosexuality that is used in the japanese language. Popular with fangirls who like their favorite anime guy...
18:32 HeySteve kuzetsa not a sword fight?
18:32 cazalla i don't understand why it is homoerotic though, my understanding it's meaning is that a woman does not have the power to influence online as she does irl
18:32 mircea_popescu ah ok.
18:33 mircea_popescu cazalla now that's nonsense.
18:33 kuzetsa wow, that urban dictionary thing is pretty accurate
18:33 mircea_popescu now lessee if i can get caught up on this monsterlog jeez/
18:33 kuzetsa I've totally done the fangirl thing thinking of male characters romantically / physically involved with each other <I'll spare you the fanfic I may or may not have read or written>
18:33 sexy_saffron I don't think gender has much to do with influence on the internet
18:33 sexy_saffron on the internet, no one knows you're a dog
18:34 benkay but here, we all sort of know each other fairly well.
18:34 cazalla sexy_saffron, clearly you've never had a woman join your guild, demand officer status, demand items while using cybering to attain that from idiots who allowed her to destroy said guild with drama
18:34 mircea_popescu kuzetsa hey, what do you do for a living ?
18:34 kuzetsa good job, urban dictionary, that's totally what I meant by yaoi :)
18:34 DreadKnight sexy_saffron, talk was mainly started by chicks popular on youtube mainly thanks to cleavage
18:34 sexy_saffron ah, well there is that lol
18:34 mircea_popescu cazalla no, actually, i had that lol. didn't really do much.
18:35 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: retired, technically
18:35 sexy_saffron idk, I just think people can be shitty regardless of gender
18:35 mircea_popescu kuzetsa im looking for someone to cover the countless anime forums on the web, if you're looking for work.
18:35 cazalla mircea_popescu, happened to me in EQ, guild leader's wife joins, she start cybering the teenage boys which undermines his authority, it all went to shit after that
18:35 mircea_popescu sexy_saffron women can't be as shitty as men because they're inferior and all.
18:35 sexy_saffron lol
18:36 mircea_popescu cazalla so she's a great troll. why hate the playa ?
18:36 kuzetsa sexy_saffron: yeah, people being unpleasant (shitty, whatever) doesn't have a strong correlation to any particular gender, race, religion, age, nationality, etc.
18:36 mircea_popescu if i were a wife upset over matrimonial neglect i'd do the exact same thing.
18:36 mircea_popescu only perhaps better.
18:36 mircea_popescu kuzetsa age ? what, you kidding me ?
18:36 mircea_popescu annyoing teenaged boys are a category.
18:36 kuzetsa no, I'm not kidding about being retired
18:37 cazalla kuzetsa, retired or on disability due to feminist issues such as gender dysmorphia, anxiety or other made up shit?
18:37 mircea_popescu i meant the correlation with age. of course it correlates with gender and age, god help you with 16yo boyz.
18:37 mircea_popescu lol this guy's got a scoring table all prepared.
18:38 kuzetsa I still do a bit of consulting / contract work now and then though, as well as some speculation with bitcoin and such
18:38 fats_cd03 'and such' being?
18:39 mircea_popescu DreadKnight: anyway, 1600$+ a month just because; for writing; that's like 3 romanian full time jobs; I got 0 on there so far <<< you know 20k a year is basically unemployment benefits. it doesn't really register as a fortune on anyone's radar. people like asciilifeform make many times that and essentially count themselves as paupers.
18:39 kuzetsa fats_cd03: generally, this time, specifically, I probably meant the sorts of things which are often used as a basis for stereotypes or discrimination
18:39 kuzetsa I could have instead said "or whatever" but "and such" seemed like a fun word choice this time
18:40 * kuzetsa loads that substitition into the spintex content generation engine
18:40 fats_cd03 so you're saying you buy and hold bitcoin, and thats it
18:40 mircea_popescu lol
18:40 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot kuzetsa
18:40 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa. Trust relationship from user assbot to user kuzetsa: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=kuzetsa | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kuzetsa | Rated since: Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012
18:40 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, it's all relative to location, might not be much money, but the more you go East, the more of a king you are
18:40 kuzetsa ;;ratingsystem getrating kuzetsa
18:40 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa . User kuzetsa, rated since Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012. Cumulative rating 23, from 18 total ratings. Received ratings: 18 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 22 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kuzetsa
18:40 fats_cd03 werd
18:41 mircea_popescu kuzetsa what, wikipedia too ? you're like the perfect enemy. no wonder you'll catch a little flak here.
18:41 benkay those 2012 ratings
18:41 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, she might be in USA, so it's not too much there indeed
18:42 mircea_popescu DreadKnight i think you're approaching this from the wrong angle.
18:42 mircea_popescu living wages are living wages no matter how you turn it.
18:42 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: yes, I've been editing wikipedia for nearly a decade.
18:42 mircea_popescu how can you stand it ?
18:42 kuzetsa in small doses, mostly
18:42 mircea_popescu i can see that.
18:43 kuzetsa oh, you looking at my main WP page under the kuzetsa handle?
18:43 mircea_popescu you stil playing eve ?
18:43 mircea_popescu no.
18:43 kuzetsa eve? no, not for a few months
18:43 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, living wages depend on geographical location overall and they vary a lot though
18:43 mircea_popescu there's a large-ish bitcoin guild, smickles' in charge these days.
18:43 kuzetsa no eve lately ever since that incident with me being a social idiot and I pissed off a pirate corp who all put large bounties on me
18:43 mircea_popescu DreadKnight notrly.
18:44 mircea_popescu kuzetsa how's being a social idiot manifest ?
18:44 mircea_popescu sexy_saffron so how goes these days ?
18:44 sexy_saffron days go well!
18:44 sexy_saffron lots of shooting
18:44 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, if you're referring they're relative proportion to regular job, that's kinda "notrly" indeed, but when you consider internet crowd funding, that's a different story
18:45 mircea_popescu notrly. :)
18:45 mircea_popescu DreadKnight: cazalla, considered doing something like that with a chick I know that looks like the Dark Queen from Battletoads; got equipment and such << she doing nudes ?
18:45 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: mostly, in my case, when I say "social idiot" I just mean I've had a low success rate for knowing what sort expecations are "standard" within cultures, groups, circles, etc. (whatever you call it -- social situations)
18:45 DreadKnight 100$ in USA is not equal to 100$ in Thaiwan
18:45 mircea_popescu kuzetsa you survived here, inexplicably.
18:45 mircea_popescu !up zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
18:45 zzzzzzzzzzzzzz LOLOLOL
18:45 mircea_popescu DreadKnight yeah it is. it'
18:46 mircea_popescu s equal to nothing, everywhere.
18:46 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, she is but not for internet stuff; she's hot :3
18:46 mircea_popescu DreadKnight http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ if you hadn't seen it.
18:46 assbot Iā€™ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
18:46 DreadKnight in USA you can eat a day, in Thaiwian you can eat a week from 100$; just an example
18:46 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, think I had it opened, was waiting for credit
18:46 mircea_popescu i eat once, everywhere. here, romania, new york
18:46 fats_cd03 http://x64dbg.com/#start
18:46 assbot x64_dbg
18:46 mircea_popescu a hundred buck's a decent meal.
18:47 kuzetsa DreadKnight: that spelling is confusing me... did you mean thailand or taiwan?
18:47 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, you, but there was also internet crowd funding involved in the equation when raising money
18:47 DreadKnight kuzetsa, thailand
18:48 HeySteve oh man that reminds me, there was a girl who wanted to do the tits for bits thing
18:48 kuzetsa just don't wear the bitcoin logo on stuff, they might confuse it for baht, the local thai currency :)
18:48 HeySteve if it's still going I should let her know
18:48 DreadKnight so if you're in thailand and raise 100$ online, that's way better compared to living in USA and raising 100$ online from crowd funding
18:48 mircea_popescu HeySteve it is.
18:48 DreadKnight HeySteve, bumped into a website where chicks get naked for btc a while ago
18:48 mircea_popescu DreadKnight $100 is not worth the hassle anyway. no matter where you live.
18:48 HeySteve cool where do I see the current entrants, mircea_popescu?
18:49 HeySteve DreadKnight, girls gone bitcoin maybe?
18:49 mircea_popescu HeySteve you mean the people who already got paid ? scroll down on the article.
18:49 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, it was just an example
18:49 DreadKnight HeySteve, might be
18:49 mircea_popescu i dun think it was. i think it's representative. you're thinking in teh wrong terms.
18:49 mircea_popescu you want to build something that's large, not to make enough for a pizza.
18:50 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
18:50 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 594.39, Best ask: 595.02, Bid-ask spread: 0.63000, Last trade: 595.02, 24 hour volume: 3525.30240017, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 603.0, 24 hour vwap: 594.747163713
18:50 mircea_popescu cazalla: DreadKnight, that's her, bit too skinny for me but looks ok << that azn chick is god awful.
18:50 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, yes, 100$ won't personally get me far, but it would get me further than someone located in USA
18:51 sexy_saffron I really like how my picture turned out :)
18:51 kuzetsa O_O
18:51 cazalla mircea_popescu, looks or personality or both? i bet she's a dead fish in bed
18:51 DreadKnight azn?
18:51 kuzetsa DreadKnight: silly spelling for "asian", and I think it has other connotations
18:51 kuzetsa !ud azn
18:51 kuzetsa ;;ud azn
18:51 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AZN | "AzN pRydE, AzN tIL i DiE" WhOo HooOo i'm A DumBaSs DaT doEsnT knnO hOw To tyPe aNd EmBarRAsZz My rAcE anD EthNiCiTy by ClaiMinG PrYde WheNĀ ...
18:51 HeySteve some hotties
18:51 DreadKnight was considering that might be
18:51 mircea_popescu cazalla she looks meh and her personality is obnoxious. she speaks like she's chewing nibblets and her movements are atrocious. needs actor schooling.
18:52 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, agree, she's average, not worst choice but not best choice
18:52 cazalla mircea_popescu, they all look the same to me
18:52 mircea_popescu that's because you're a racist homoerotic aussie.
18:52 cazalla azns, that is
18:52 kuzetsa :(
18:53 mircea_popescu kuzetsa what, did i just tinker with his personhood ?
18:53 HeySteve a couple of those links have expired tho
18:53 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 257 @ 0.0029 = 0.7453 BTC [-]
18:53 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: hmm? oh, I was mostly just embarrased by how I got all yaoi earlier at the "no women on internet" --> "homoerotic thing to say" joke earlier
18:53 mircea_popescu omfg hannah minx = perianne boring's secret camho identitty ?
18:54 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: sad smiley because the homoerotic reference reminded me of it
18:54 kuzetsa I'm such a pervert :(
18:54 mircea_popescu if anyone's looking to spank someone, kuzetsa's asking for it.
18:54 benkay why the sad face, kuzetsa ?
18:55 benkay !up HeySteve
18:55 benkay dude you gotta fix your keytuation
18:55 HeySteve thx benkay
18:55 fluffypony someone else was struggling with it the other day
18:55 mircea_popescu benkay: just to throw a spanner into the works, mircea_popescu, i imagine the d-series do not pay out in the event that the companies use XCP or some such to list << what's that again ?
18:55 cazalla i don't think you can be gay and racist, at least not in australia
18:56 HeySteve gribble says my OTP is incorrect but it works with altgribble. dunno what's up
18:56 fluffypony The20Year I think
18:56 fluffypony nanotube: is gribble's GPG auth broken?
18:56 fluffypony two people reporting the same error is weird
18:56 mircea_popescu fluffypony i authed just fine earlier.
18:56 benkay mircea_popescu: counterparty? "colored coins" v 4.2
18:56 fluffypony [2014-07-25T20:07:35+0200] <the20year> and it says the key is invalid
18:56 fluffypony [2014-07-25T20:08:45+0200] <the20year> ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:532f4c (and so on)
18:56 fluffypony [2014-07-25T20:08:49+0200] <the20year> (2:08:29 PM) gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again.
18:56 mircea_popescu benkay it also doesn't pay if the "companies" use a myspace page to "list"
18:57 fluffypony HeySteve: are you seeing the same error as the20year was?
18:57 kuzetsa benkay: 'cause I know well enough to know that a lot of yaoi hentai manga comics and anime are actually degrading to the idea of gay male-bodied persons being in stable, healthy relationships, and I'm a bit ashamed of my objectification-type thinking of of strangers in a pervy way which they might take offense to if they knew I was thinking that about them
18:57 HeySteve yes fluffypony, exactly
18:57 mircea_popescu kuzetsa you care too much. people are here for you to objectify. have fun.
18:57 fluffypony HeySteve: ping nanotube about it, you're not the first person
18:57 HeySteve male-bodied persons? you mean men?
18:57 mircea_popescu fluffypony likely they were using a stale otp
18:57 HeySteve will do, fluffypony
18:58 mircea_popescu ie, not ;;eauth first
18:58 HeySteve mircea_popescu, I used ;;eauth as usual
18:58 fluffypony mircea_popescu: I walked through what the20year was doing, his auth flow seemed correct
18:58 kuzetsa oh, is gribble having trouble with eauth / bcauth?
18:58 mircea_popescu HeySteve she doesn't say men because saying men would imply they have to be fucking men, and she doesn't want to nudge a bunch of pussies towards maturity.
18:59 mircea_popescu fluffypony weird.
18:59 HeySteve mircea_popescu and kuzetsa, I don't like seeing awkward language to serve political purposes, it's too 1984
19:00 mircea_popescu good for a laugh./
19:00 * kuzetsa shrugs
19:00 benkay mircea_popescu: hue
19:00 HeySteve it doesn't really change anything, just makes communication confusing
19:00 benkay ;;ident
19:00 gribble Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None
19:00 mircea_popescu so on my box of panthers : "el tabaco te domina. dejalo".
19:00 mircea_popescu if only all the subbie men looking for dommes knew this.
19:01 kuzetsa HeySteve: I prefer to err on the side of sterile and verbose where being "less wordy" might result in ambiguity or leave room for interpretation
19:01 mircea_popescu why ?
19:01 mircea_popescu terseness is a verbosity all of its own.
19:02 kuzetsa perhaps, though I've found that the formal terms for some of the ideas I often wish to express, are best done so in complete, gramatically correct sentences
19:02 jurov "male-bodied persons" left me with quite a room for interpretation xD
19:02 HeySteve I agree, meaning is like the sculpture within the marble, you have to chip away all the extraneous stuff
19:03 mircea_popescu kuzetsa ironically, that notion got expressed in broken english.
19:03 kuzetsa jurov: some people don't self-identify as "men" despite having the legal (and presumably, medical) status of a male person... I've had a lot of friends who don't have a strong sense of gender in their self-identification.
19:03 mircea_popescu and you don't perceive this as a character flaw ?
19:03 fluffypony when did #bitcoin-assets turn into Tumblr?
19:04 kuzetsa neat
19:04 kuzetsa I like this better than reddit
19:04 mircea_popescu fluffypony isn't that pics only ? we has no pics.
19:04 jurov .bait
19:04 benkay <mircea_popescu> terseness is a verbosity all of its own. // speaking in riddles is a great way to get people to think for themselves.
19:04 fluffypony :-P
19:04 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/d08d2cf07efb8679db953857ee9273b0/tumblr_n3alwgmIrG1s4oxg5o1_500.jpg
19:04 mircea_popescu there, fixed.
19:05 cazalla kuzetsa, are you cis scum?
19:05 benkay what a dainty little lock
19:05 mircea_popescu benkay was merely a reference to yesterday's quantity / quality thing.
19:05 jurov kuzetsa so you ask everyone about their self-identification first? what if they claim not to be persons at all?
19:05 jurov you call them "human-shaped entity"?
19:06 benkay my least favorite part of american english is the part where nouns aren't gendered.
19:06 mircea_popescu who the fuck cares how people self idnetify ? all sorts of idiots self-identify as ceos of bitcoin entreprises, bitcoin investors, parts of the bitcoin community and so on and so forth ad nauseam. nobody worth two bits credits any of that self-identification crap.
19:06 mircea_popescu benkay you should try russian. takes five days to figure out the genders of everything what goes in a entence.
19:06 kuzetsa jurov: I've met people who self-identify some form of otherkin, and they legally still count as persons, despite a non-human self-identification... they also often accept the term "person" as being equally valid for non-human persons :P
19:07 benkay mircea_popescu: gotta get my spanish more well-dialed first.
19:07 kuzetsa jurov: I don't understand your point, though suspect you might be attempting a straw-man arguemnt or somesuch, or perhaps poking fun at my use of the word "person"
19:07 mircea_popescu kuzetsa no, he's just gay and spunky.
19:07 kuzetsa (please clarify)
19:08 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: oh... that works too
19:08 kuzetsa I like spunk
19:08 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1SA9W2F.txt )
19:08 benkay !b 1
19:08 kuzetsa oh dear
19:08 mircea_popescu now what's bashable about some woman liking spunk ?!
19:08 benkay kuzetsa: do you have a particular bent for the genderqueer crowd?
19:08 kuzetsa isn't spunk some sort of euphamism for semen or some other bodily fluid?
19:08 jurov i mean, what do you do if you feel the word "person" to be loaded and demeaning
19:08 jurov ?
19:09 DreadKnight let the girl like spunk.
19:09 mircea_popescu it's nourishing!
19:09 benkay <mircea_popescu> now what's bashable about some woman liking spunk ?! // it's a good demonstration of some fundamental human characteristics.
19:09 benkay constants, if you will, if such a thing can exist.
19:09 jurov lol spunky. you have no idea.
19:09 benkay i think perhaps mircea_popescu does have an idea
19:09 DreadKnight this channel so logged and censored >_< feels a bit like a concert where everybody has phone up to film
19:10 DreadKnight record* better term
19:10 benkay logged and censored?
19:10 DreadKnight "!b 1"
19:10 mircea_popescu allow me to continue supplying hardware : http://37.media.tumblr.com/8270f7362284992d3102dbdd1a053eb8/tumblr_mycv8yoSfl1ruent2o1_500.jpg
19:10 mircea_popescu DreadKnight how is it censored ?
19:10 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: interesting, I guess you find BDSM to be "not unpleasant" based on the past 2 datapoints
19:10 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, by removing stuff from log
19:11 mircea_popescu DreadKnight that hasn't happened yet has it ?
19:11 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, guess not...
19:11 DreadKnight so nvm
19:11 kuzetsa I'm reminded earlier about a comment someone made about women who like to be demeaned or humiliated or whatever
19:11 benkay DreadKnight: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com
19:11 assbot #bitcoin-assets bash
19:11 mircea_popescu meh where was that link with the girls
19:12 benkay that's a pretty funny tan
19:12 kuzetsa that's not the same thing as being non-consensually defamed by a stranger
19:12 mircea_popescu kuzetsa http://trilema.com/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/ there you go
19:12 assbot NSFW - Mosuā€™ cu joarda pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
19:12 benkay o we do consensual defamation these days?
19:12 benkay implying defamation is also rape now?
19:12 mircea_popescu speech requires no consent.
19:12 mircea_popescu well, sex either, but that's a different story.
19:13 benkay omg rape is a subcategory of sex!
19:13 benkay heretic!
19:13 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: I didn't know for sure, so I tossed the partial phrase: [unuā€™ care se pricepe la absolut tot] into google translate -- romanian?
19:13 mircea_popescu no irs not. it's a kind of assault.
19:14 mircea_popescu kuzetsa "one that knows everything". it's ironic, as in, he THIN?KS he does.
19:14 mircea_popescu romanian does a lot of subtext like that.
19:15 benkay btw y'all, don't be using bit-c
19:16 mircea_popescu bit-c ?
19:17 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: oooh, so is it an idiomatic non-literal phrase similar to in english, calling someone a "know-it-all" ?
19:17 mircea_popescu similar.
19:17 * kuzetsa nods
19:18 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/1b2a6f5979495b9948cf7d7552a3b78b/tumblr_n4yc7cNS7R1qddd4so1_500.jpg << chicks.
19:18 kuzetsa I was unable to get the entire page to play nicely with google translate
19:18 kuzetsa it ended up translated to something or other about paid conent
19:18 benkay ;;google bitc/bit-c
19:18 gribble The BitC Programming Language: <http://www.bitc-lang.org/>; BitC Documentation: <http://www.bitc-lang.org/docs/>; bit-c/bitc Ā· GitHub: <https://github.com/bit-c/bitc>
19:18 DreadKnight what's with the nudes? mircea_popescu :D
19:18 benkay that third one
19:18 benkay ;;google bitc/bit-c
19:18 gribble The BitC Programming Language: <http://www.bitc-lang.org/>; BitC Documentation: <http://www.bitc-lang.org/docs/>; bit-c/bitc Ā· GitHub: <https://github.com/bit-c/bitc>
19:19 mircea_popescu kuzetsa yeah trilema lets you see a few articles each week, then you gotta pay. much to DreadKnight's fortune, he's not yet discovered how much btc amassed into that address.
19:19 kuzetsa *content, specifically: "This article is available for a fee."
19:19 mircea_popescu DreadKnight b-a tradition.
19:19 mircea_popescu we used to have a dedicated bot but then it was too tame or something
19:19 benkay i miss ozbot
19:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 247 @ 0.0029 = 0.7163 BTC [-]
19:19 mircea_popescu i dun recall what the issue was really
19:19 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: oooh, so the google translate server farm thinger has been detected as having exceeded quota?
19:20 benkay https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24523564/china-seals-off-town-after-man-dies-of-bubonic-plague/
19:20 assbot China seals off town after man dies of bubonic plague - Yahoo!7
19:20 mircea_popescu kuzetsa prolly.
19:20 kuzetsa makes sense, neat.
19:20 mircea_popescu kuzetsa anyway, the gist of it is that some random ro blogger got caught stealing a pic off a chan and presenting it as himself assfucking the girl in question.
19:20 mircea_popescu his response was that "all blogers steal"
19:21 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, roger; was confused at first to see "Credits: 4" on your website, as I was thinking of the "cast" thingy like in movies; but yeah, you seem to write quite a bit about everything, so I see that working more and more with time as people get more familiar with technologies and digital currencies and become less scrubs hopefully
19:21 mircea_popescu my response is this article, saying yeah, check it out, he's right. lucky me, i just stole some pictures off google which just happen to depict my own slaves. yay.
19:21 benkay ;;later tell bingoboingo http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/07/23/3463562/arizonas-execution-botched/
19:21 assbot Arizona's Execution Attempt Goes Horribly Wrong As Man Remains Alive Nearly 2 Hours After Injection | ThinkProgress
19:21 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:21 HeySteve hmm if her arms were free she'd be a better scarecrow
19:21 * asciilifeform went to exercise and, as usual, missed all the goodstuff
19:22 benkay i've never quite grokked what goes through the tied-up human's head when they're so tied for hours
19:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform see, exercising is bad for you
19:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: actually, aren't they derping about various russian citizens sanctions and whatnot << so far, the only effect is to make u.s. small arms collectors pay double for kalash
19:22 mircea_popescu benkay so try it.
19:22 kuzetsa benkay: that bit-c thing reminded me of a thing I recently came across which converts LLVM bytecode into javascript: https://github.com/kripken/emscripten/wiki
19:22 assbot Home kripken/emscripten Wiki GitHub
19:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: gasenwagen... triage. <<< you failed to qualify >> so far.
19:23 kuzetsa emscripten is apparently pretty mature, and has been around for a few years (next month is 4th aniversary, they already have over 10k commits in the repo and everything!!!!)
19:23 mircea_popescu http://37.media.tumblr.com/fbd73d9ff41f1bf4abf73bb8ae7ae353/tumblr_mx8mknyisx1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << incidentally, this is stable. she's not ghoing anywhere.
19:24 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: russian way is to use same cuffs and a radiator.
19:24 mircea_popescu anything heavy
19:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my memory fails me. is there such a goddess ? >> ishtar.
19:25 mircea_popescu nah
19:25 mircea_popescu !up HeySteve
19:26 mircea_popescu !up dbit
19:26 benkay mircea_popescu: who'll do the tying tho
19:26 mircea_popescu benkay you had a wife no ?
19:26 HeySteve thx mircea_popescu, I left a note for nanotube on that issue.
19:26 benkay past tense lol
19:27 benkay hm, i suppose.
19:27 mircea_popescu what, are you having her right now "?!
19:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ...count themselves as paupers << yep
19:27 benkay always figured there was something to the person and the theatre of it, but perhaps a more utilitarian approach is called for
19:27 benkay you joker!
19:27 mircea_popescu there's no theatre in slavery or in security.
19:27 mircea_popescu where theatre begins either has long ended.
19:28 benkay can slavery be turned on and off?
19:28 mircea_popescu once.
19:28 benkay yeah.
19:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it isn't about the money, but the chain. long chain or short chain, no matter. but, if the 20k came from a mythical machine that disgorges dough, that'd be a different matter. in my book, that's a 'fortune' - because no chain.
19:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda what i was trying to get across to the guy, from another angle.
19:29 mircea_popescu same with the kid on my blog asking me why i'm not the one doing the romanian btc atm. well... because they won't do it on my terms and i'm not doing it on theirs. obviously.
19:30 asciilifeform this is why, e.g. spammers, break their necks trying to score the 20k machine.
19:30 asciilifeform they dream of escape.
19:30 mircea_popescu at least ideally, sure.
19:30 benkay !s benkay dream
19:30 assbot 18 results for 'benkay dream' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=benkay+dream
19:30 benkay http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-04-2014#616283
19:30 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
19:31 mircea_popescu "Woe to him whom Ishtar had honoured! The fickle goddess treated her passing lovers cruelly, and the unhappy wretches usually paid dearly for the favours heaped on them. Animals, enslaved by love, lost their native vigour: they fell into traps laid by men or were domesticated by them. 'Thou has loved the lion, mighty in strength', says the hero Gilgamesh to Ishtar, 'and thou hast dug for him seven and seven pits! Thou
19:31 mircea_popescu hast loved the steed, proud in battle, and destined him for the halter, the goad and the whip.'
19:31 mircea_popescu asciilifeform what part of that reads like "fuck me in the ass, get lsd, fuck me down the throat, get pot"
19:32 asciilifeform lol
19:32 asciilifeform nobody declined the chance to fuck ishtar though.
19:33 mircea_popescu now how would you know that.
19:33 asciilifeform well, legend.
19:33 mircea_popescu it doth not say that does it ?
19:34 * mircea_popescu is not exactly a middle east specialist.
19:34 * asciilifeform only vaguely recalls the relevant text
19:34 fluffypony holy fuck HR Giger is creepy in this documentary
19:34 fluffypony he's like a creepy uncle that wants to watch you change
19:35 mircea_popescu lmao wut
19:41 * mircea_popescu is really curious if benkay took the implicit "so have her lock you up" as intended or simply read the neutral statemen the other way :D
19:45 benkay hm? what's the other interpretation?
19:46 mircea_popescu you locking her up
19:47 benkay yeah no, can't imagine that answering my questions.
19:47 mircea_popescu prolly not. make for decent dinner conversation for a while tho
19:50 benkay myeah. plus, fun for all parties involved.
19:50 HeySteve fluffypony for sure! was sad to hear of his death, really enjoy his art
19:51 benkay on an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TOPIC, mircea_popescu what sorts of events will trigger F.DERP divs?
19:51 mircea_popescu mostly overcapitalisation
19:51 benkay fund'll probably be around for a few years, eh?
19:54 kuzetsa did I miss anything when I wandered off other than mircea_popescu ... wait, what
19:55 kuzetsa fuck me in the ass, get lsd, fuck me down the throat, get pot?
19:55 * kuzetsa tries to figure out the context
19:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7306 @ 0.0008003 = 5.847 BTC [+]
19:57 kuzetsa probably just commentary or misunderstanding about some sort of confusing poetry... I hope?
19:57 benkay kuzetsa: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014&bots=true#771012
19:57 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
19:58 jurov so if, say, bitpay suddenly croaks, F.DERP NAV will increase by 240 BTC?
19:58 benkay this depends on what we mean by NAV
19:59 kuzetsa benkay: oh wow... that was an awfully large gap in context from the initial comment to the later one
19:59 jurov ;;calc (1000-793)*0.24
19:59 gribble 49.68
19:59 benkay 50btc, which incidentally is just what's in coverage
19:59 benkay now - does nav include coverage?
20:00 benkay kuzetsa: this is why reading the logs is mandatory to keep up with conversation
20:01 benkay kakobrekla, mike_c, jurov, mircea_popescu: i think this is an open question. does F.DERP NAV include coverage?
20:02 jurov !t m d.bpay
20:02 assbot Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
20:02 jurov !t m s.mpoe
20:02 assbot Your actions are useless.
20:02 jurov !t mpex s.mpoe
20:02 assbot You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.
20:02 benkay gr8
20:03 jurov !ticker mpex s.mpoe
20:03 assbot Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
20:03 jurov /o
20:03 benkay kakobrekla: assbot's broken
20:04 benkay !mpif
20:04 assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-]
20:04 benkay !help
20:04 assbot List of commands:
20:04 assbot !up (desc: sending it via PM will voice you on chan given sufficient WOT rating)
20:04 assbot !up <nick> (desc: sending it on chan will give <nick> voice for 30 minutes)
20:04 assbot !ticker <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t}
20:04 assbot !last <exchange> <ticker> (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l}
20:04 assbot !mp <signcrypted dpaste.com url> (desc: returns the response from MPEX order)
20:04 assbot !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
20:04 assbot !exchanges <nick/chan> (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e}
20:04 assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com)
20:04 assbot !bash <lines> (desc: bashes last <lines> lines to bash) {short: !b}
20:04 assbot !quote <lines> (desc: quotes last <lines> lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q}
20:04 kuzetsa benkay: there's too much text in here
20:04 benkay kuzetsa: it ain't so bad
20:05 kuzetsa it's busier than most channels I'm able to keep up with
20:06 benkay so ditch the zeros and hang with the heroes
20:09 jurov btw, mpex.ws says the volume is only 42
20:09 jurov on d.bpay
20:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.17011317 = 1.8712 BTC [-] {3}
20:11 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.17004559 = 1.8705 BTC [-] {4}
20:11 mircea_popescu <benkay> fund'll probably be around for a few years, eh? << yes.
20:12 mircea_popescu <jurov> so if, say, bitpay suddenly croaks, F.DERP NAV will increase by 240 BTC? << yes.
20:12 mircea_popescu <benkay> kakobrekla, mike_c, jurov, mircea_popescu: i think this is an open question. does F.DERP NAV include coverage? << yes. let's model this thing :
20:13 mircea_popescu F gets 100 btc in cash, issues 50 btc worth of f.a shares and 50 btc worth of f.b shares. 10 btc of each sells.
20:13 mircea_popescu f now has 120 in cash.
20:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.17 = 0.68 BTC [-]
20:13 mircea_popescu 100 of which is equity of shareholders, 20 is provisions.
20:14 mircea_popescu f.a croaks. f.b now has the same 120 in cash, but equity moves : 110 shareholders, 10 provisions. leaving a nav gain of 10.
20:14 mircea_popescu f.b lists, the f section thereof being worth 30 btc.
20:14 mircea_popescu f now has 90 in cash, and nav dropped 20 from last, and 10 lifetime.
20:14 mircea_popescu make sense ?
20:16 jurov you mean d.a and d.b ?
20:16 mircea_popescu as the case may be, yes.
20:17 mircea_popescu now, this is not mandatory, in the sense that an investor can evaluate the nav through absolutely any methodology that investor likes.
20:18 jurov won't there be f.mpif-style marketmaker for f.derp?
20:18 mircea_popescu nope.
20:19 mircea_popescu and here's one speshul for pankkake http://37.media.tumblr.com/53fbd15a90e53bc23b349de22ea8fa3c/tumblr_n4g2brf52J1qddd4so1_500.jpg
20:20 benkay fuq is going on there?
20:21 mircea_popescu and here's one for benkay http://whiteslaver.tumblr.com/post/83525401294
20:21 assbot White Slavery is Real
20:22 benkay nom
20:22 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, could use some tutoring about stocks / shares / dividends as well, mainly from the perspective of getting something listed
20:22 mircea_popescu ;;google how does one list on mpex
20:22 gribble How does one list on MPEx ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: <http://trilema.com/how-does-one-list-on-mpex>; Why List On MPEx? | When Bitcoin Met Pete: <http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/07/15/why-list-on-mpex/>; MPEx & Bitcoin Stock Exchanges - Bitcoin Forum: <https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145919.0>
20:23 DreadKnight thanks
20:23 jurov makes sense, only i suspect f.derp will fall to quirky pricing of mpex assets
20:24 mircea_popescu mebbe
20:26 kuzetsa ;;echo kuzetsa highlight test]
20:26 gribble Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
20:27 kuzetsa ;;echo kuzetsa highlight test (attempt 2)
20:27 gribble kuzetsa highlight test (attempt 2)
20:27 kuzetsa ah good, I correctly configured my client
20:27 kuzetsa [20:00:17] <+benkay> kuzetsa: this is why reading the logs is mandatory to keep up with conversation
20:27 benkay yesm?
20:28 kuzetsa benkay: thanks for the advice --- despite being busier than I'm used to, I happen to like it here more than most channels, so I finally got around to configuring my "highlight on nick" feature on my client
20:29 kuzetsa I really should've done it ages ago, I'm often in a more than 2 dozen channels across no fewer than 4 networks most of the time
20:29 benkay lol that's a pretty scanty sample on which to base that
20:29 benkay we must be p awesome
20:29 kuzetsa (lately it's been 30+ channels across 5 networks)
20:30 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.01533003 = 0.8738 BTC [+] {2}
20:31 mircea_popescu kuzetsa i do only 1 chan
20:32 kuzetsa I like no fewer than 4chan, but mostly because I'm such a /b/tard
20:32 benkay wait a /b/tard who gets panty-twisted over gender assignations?
20:32 kuzetsa ... I really don't go in /b/ much these days though (or any of 4chan, really)
20:32 mircea_popescu o.O
20:32 mircea_popescu are we being trolled ?
20:33 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: not by me (at this time)
20:33 kuzetsa I occasionally attempt humor though
20:33 kuzetsa ... and that rarely works out well
20:33 mircea_popescu !up BrianB
20:33 benkay time will tell i suppose
20:34 cazalla kuzetsa, how about /pol/ ?
20:34 jurov on a second thought, it will result in money cumulating in f.derp whenever d.* croaks with some promise "will be paid out in few years"
20:34 kuzetsa yes, I'm doing a pirateat40-style long con or something, except with trolling
20:35 jurov wouldn't be better to pay out part of it right after d.* event?
20:35 kuzetsa cazalla: which one is that on? gurochan? or is it 4chan and I just don't pay close enough attention?
20:35 mircea_popescu jurov in principle if one wants to keep the same btc value that one just sells share
20:35 benkay <jurov> on a second thought, it will result in money cumulating in f.derp whenever d.* croaks with some promise "will be paid out in few years" // yeah, this.
20:35 benkay i like the mpex assets that accumulate btc.
20:35 cazalla kuzetsa, this one http://boards.4chan.org/pol/
20:35 assbot /pol/ - Politically Incorrect
20:35 benkay :thumbsup: from the kid
20:36 jurov it's then hard to sell for me "it will never pay anything, but dun worry, mircea has it"
20:36 * kuzetsa clicks cazalla's link out of morbid curiousity
20:37 mircea_popescu isn't that how everything goes ?
20:37 jurov it does not go for coinbr :(
20:37 jurov it needs another s.dice
20:38 benkay now hang on just liquidate the thing when you want out
20:38 benkay as nav goes up so will bids
20:38 mircea_popescu ^
20:38 kuzetsa cazalla: thanks, I skimmed the first page of /pol/ and then when I got to the bottom I intentionally clicked a banner ad link which took me to jlist since it seemed more interesting than checking the next page
20:39 mircea_popescu ;;ud jlist
20:39 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Jlist.com | ... JLIHP Ā· j'like Ā· J Lil' Swag Ā· j'lin Ā· J. Lindeberg Ā· j-line Ā· JLing Ā· jlining Ā· Jlink Ā· Jlinklet Ā· J. Linz Ā· Jliop Ā· j-list Ā· Jlist.com Ā· J-lister Ā· JLit Ā· JLJC ... Jlist.com isn't defined.
20:39 benkay mircea_popescu's committed to filling sells below nav every day
20:39 benkay if he stops, the jig is clearly up anyways lololololol
20:39 mircea_popescu i am ?
20:40 jurov benkay he just said, no MM
20:40 benkay "To maintain liquidity, all ASKS under NAV will be bought up once during the 24 hour period after the fund reports. "
20:40 jurov that's from where?
20:40 benkay there's no contract, clearly, which is impeding this discussion.
20:41 * benkay elbows mircea_popescu
20:41 benkay http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-fderp/
20:41 assbot Introducing F.DERP pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
20:41 cazalla kuzetsa, l2adblock and troll harder
20:43 kuzetsa cazalla: nah, I just use a sandboxed browsers and have a rate limiter on how much CPU waste any particular script can use
20:43 mircea_popescu unrelatedly, a bond of sisterhood : http://38.media.tumblr.com/6a01f43d02568fbd24a0a0eca4f1b4f6/tumblr_n3ml6w9kv31qlne6uo1_500.jpg
20:44 kuzetsa cazalla: and incidentally, I really was bored and wandered over to jlist -- they have nice merch.
20:44 benkay man cazalla you're p butthurt this afternoon
20:44 cazalla kuzetsa, are you japanese?
20:46 cazalla benkay, not reary, just bored, little sleep, teething baby and all
20:46 benkay brutal.
20:47 mircea_popescu basically he's horny.
20:49 kuzetsa cazalla: ć„ć„ćˆć§ć‚‚ę—„ęœ¬čŖžćÆćŖć—ć¾
20:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00294999 = 0.59 BTC [-] {2}
20:50 cazalla kuzetsa, i didn't think you'd be one to engage in cultural appropriation
20:52 kuzetsa what?
20:54 benkay generally people who get bent out of shape about gender and naming and shaming and what-has-one don't do the cultural appropriation thing, because "imperialism".
20:54 kuzetsa fuck that shit
20:54 mircea_popescu lol wait, people can't speak foreign languages now ?
20:54 kuzetsa I don't subscribe to any particular rules of conduct
20:55 mircea_popescu in bitcoin-assets ?! when did this happen
20:55 benkay ASSPLAIN YOURSELF, CAZALLA
20:55 benkay the torches and pitchforks approach
20:55 kuzetsa yes
20:56 cazalla kuzetsa, why browse and purchase items from jlist when you're not japanese, that's cultural appropriation and typical of you tumblr types
20:56 cazalla ah, benkay already explained
20:56 kuzetsa heh
20:56 mircea_popescu lmao cultural appropriation get out
20:56 cazalla it's a thing mircea_popescu
20:56 kuzetsa yeah sure, jlist is the devil or something
20:57 mircea_popescu on chinese keyboards ?
20:57 mircea_popescu pity kakobrekla isn't here to tell them darned japs to stop wearing ties. SOMALIAN INVENTION.
20:57 cazalla nfi, i didn't come up with or adhere to it
20:57 kuzetsa cazalla: you're accusing someone of unethical non-boycotting of a presumably "bad / unethical" business when that same person also uses cex.io GHS despite the potential harms of centralization
20:58 cazalla kuzetsa, that'd cause more harm to your wallet, wouldn't it?
20:58 DreadKnight that Hannah Minx chick is all about cultural appropriation xD
20:58 kuzetsa I'm lawful evil in most things, so the concept of boycotting a business whose practices aren't illegal or against my own personal practices would just be pointless.
20:59 mircea_popescu http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv0y01P3bR1qflmf0o1_500.jpg <<< cuntural asspropriation.
21:00 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: yeah, I've done the furniture thing (let's leave it to the imagination who was the furiture for who)
21:00 DreadKnight first thing when I open my tumblr https://38.media.tumblr.com/401cda39387180f0af00831221ec654c/tumblr_n8yf0jCBYy1qg7sdjo1_500.jpg
21:00 mircea_popescu well inasmuch as i don't know you, what diff does it make :p
21:01 kuzetsa DreadKnight: mine is ... not that
21:01 kuzetsa this is the most recent dashboard post for one of my more NSFW tumblr accounts ---> https://40.media.tumblr.com/7ac19bdd7652e3e26d497eb4cc5842c3/tumblr_n6uc3hzm3s1rbmzr2o1_500.jpg
21:02 kuzetsa (I was not trolling, I really am honestly following http://diversexity.tumblr.com/ on that account)
21:02 assbot Diversexity
21:05 benkay "relax clara those who think that gender determines intellectual performance can't really have a good logical thinking"
21:05 benkay lololol
21:05 mircea_popescu kuzetsa not bad,
21:06 mircea_popescu benkay you an' me baby are nothin' but mammals so let's get a good logical thinkin' thing goin'...
21:06 kuzetsa neat
21:07 cazalla kuzetsa, nb but too tubby for me
21:08 benkay this is pretty funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSwhRZwFjfY
21:08 assbot Typecast (Lorde "Royals" Parody) - YouTube
21:11 mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/727/block-315k-mined-on-or-before-july-28th/ << check out how close this ended up
21:11 assbot BitBet - Block 315k mined on or before July 28th :: 0.44 B (5%) on Yes, 8.39 B (95%) on No | closed 1 week 5 days ago
21:11 mircea_popescu 20 hours to go, 2k blocks away.
21:13 mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/9e1f3191c64d4fc9d9feab51d1484324/tumblr_moxas1emw31qddd4so1_500.jpg teh zoo of teh future!
21:15 DreadKnight O_o
21:15 DreadKnight wondering what's the story behind that picture
21:15 benkay http://diversexity.tumblr.com/image/91934022948
21:15 assbot Diversexity : Photo
21:15 DreadKnight they seem to have knee protection, so probably walked in 4 limbs for quite a bit
21:16 benkay also
21:16 benkay http://31.media.tumblr.com/8616132a3e56c18c974ab4cbe3b2d513/tumblr_mmcb1gbWsN1qha9two1_500.jpg
21:16 kuzetsa DreadKnight: yeah, the knee pad thing is a good safety measure for uhm... science O_O
21:16 DreadKnight first one appeals to my sapiosexual side, second one has funny face
21:17 benkay ;;ud sapiosexual
21:17 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sapiosexual | sapiosexual. One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature. "I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind. I want someone for whom Ā ...
21:17 DreadKnight kuzetsa, are you into that sort of science as well? :D
21:17 kuzetsa DreadKnight: ah, fair enough -- I thought sapiosexual was an ok word for my own preferences until I realized the extra fancy term: "panromantic demisexual" was a much more accurate thing in my case (as far as labels go)
21:18 kuzetsa DreadKnight: which science?
21:18 DreadKnight means attracted by intelligence basically
21:18 DreadKnight kuzetsa, I was quoting you :D
21:18 benkay so uh for the retards in the room what precisely are your inclinations, kuzetsa ?
21:19 benkay panromantic demisexual
21:19 kuzetsa benkay: uhhh
21:19 benkay demi - not really into sex?
21:19 kuzetsa oh
21:19 benkay panromantic - lover of all?
21:20 kuzetsa as far as romantic relationships are concerned, physicallity is something I neither object to nor expect
21:20 DreadKnight nice
21:20 kuzetsa or is it spelled physicality?
21:20 DreadKnight I get the idea, also googled a bit
21:21 kuzetsa benkay: yeah, all -- in the sense of there not being any particular body type or sexual or gender identity I find to be a dealbreaker
21:21 kuzetsa "it's all good"
21:21 DreadKnight would be great if less people were all about sex; maybe would see less stupid people with lots of kids as well
21:21 DreadKnight frigging humanity is a cancer
21:22 cazalla DreadKnight, you can always neck yourself
21:22 kuzetsa DreadKnight: cancer eh?
21:22 benkay kuzetsa: typically people focus more on the kinds of folks they want around rather than the kinds of folks they find objectionable
21:22 kuzetsa DreadKnight: isn't the cancer astrological sign the one that looks like a 69?
21:22 DreadKnight cazalla, so far I don't have kids, so that basically lowers population by itself if doing the math
21:22 cazalla DreadKnight, but if you're so smart, surely makes sense to have kids then
21:23 benkay cazalla: that raises an interesting question. why'd you choose to have kids?
21:23 cazalla benkay, because i thought i was going to die
21:23 cazalla i still am, perhaps just not as soon
21:23 DreadKnight cazalla, maybe eventually, but it's not a must, need other things first
21:24 benkay what was the timeframe when you made the call?
21:24 cazalla benkay, as it turns out, i had pretty bad sinus infection
21:25 DreadKnight cazalla, anyway, plenty of kids made and abandoned, it would be smarter to adopt one then make a new one just because imo
21:25 benkay instead of what, cancer?
21:25 benkay DreadKnight: gotta start from a known-good state.
21:25 cazalla yeah plus list of other shit i googled, doctor didn't really help much
21:25 cazalla benkay, obviously wasn't the sole reason but thinking i was going to die sooner than later, seemed like a good idea to have a kid
21:26 DreadKnight xD
21:26 benkay DreadKnight: this is the kind of advice that ruins people's lives: "go adopt a rescue animal for your first dog! you'll have no idea what it's suffered through or how trainable it is! think of the poor dogs!"
21:26 benkay mnope nope nope nope nope
21:26 benkay if you've never trained a dog, set both of yourselves up for success.
21:26 cazalla DreadKnight, why would you adopt a kid, spend money on it when it's not even yours?
21:26 benkay 'cause you're a hairshirt ecofreak.
21:27 cazalla a million other kids can starve for all i care
21:27 DreadKnight benkay, personally I think pets will pretty much disappear in favor of robots soon, but that's just me; anyway, jumping from humans to pets is quite a leap
21:27 benkay wat
21:27 benkay son you're crazy
21:28 DreadKnight cazalla, we're all the same matter and it's not like I don't have physical weaknesses, same applies for my potential mate
21:28 benkay do you have a pet, children, or any sort of long term human companion, DreadKnight ?
21:28 cazalla DreadKnight, why not just have a friend come over and fuck your wife and raise that baby? i don't see the difference in that and adopting tbh
21:29 DreadKnight benkay, said before I don't have children; had a few pets when I was younger; avoiding human companion atm
21:29 benkay k you're disqualified from opining on relationships until you address all the above
21:29 DreadKnight cazalla, adopting is when you take something already made that most likely has a shitty future; friend coming to fuck your wise is still making something brand new ;)
21:30 DreadKnight benkay, your disqualification is invalid to me
21:30 DreadKnight it's not like everybody needs to make a kid
21:31 DreadKnight just to spread along some genes
21:31 cazalla doesn't the urge to fuck come from that though
21:32 DreadKnight I said I'm sapiosexual
21:32 DreadKnight I'm not all about sex
21:32 cazalla people who say that probably have small dicks
21:32 benkay lol meaning you disqualify yourself from finding mates because they're stupid so you don't actually have to try to get laid
21:33 DreadKnight cazalla, I'm doing really well in that field actually
21:33 DreadKnight benkay, I'm not disqualifying myself, I like artsy chicks usually and single ones are pretty rare around
21:33 cazalla why are you attracted to smart women DreadKnight? my wife is dumb as rock and that's how i like it
21:34 DreadKnight haha
21:34 DreadKnight why were you attracted to your wife? good looks? character/charisma? supportive?
21:34 benkay cazalla needs to feel superior
21:34 DreadKnight seems so
21:35 cazalla not i'm just being honest
21:35 cazalla no*
21:35 cazalla DreadKnight, because she's loving, friendly, well natured, modest, prefers to do her craftwork, lampworking etc in her spare time instead of going out getting drunk
21:36 cazalla plus that big ass
21:36 mircea_popescu <DreadKnight> they seem to have knee protection, so probably walked in 4 limbs for quite a bit << yeah bursitis is no fun
21:36 DreadKnight I'm attracted to smart women because they feel less like robots/animals, in the sense they're not all about sex / shopping / make-up; and if they even have an artistic side, like drawing, then even better :3
21:37 mircea_popescu <benkay> panromantic demisexual << spending a lot of time daydreaming ?
21:37 mircea_popescu <kuzetsa> "it's all good" << traditionally this isn't called anything but "desperate" you know.
21:38 DreadKnight cazalla, sounds pretty nice overall; I prefer tities a bit more though
21:38 mircea_popescu <cazalla> benkay, because i thought i was going to die << so what, something like "eh fuck the world, im dieing anyway" ?
21:38 cazalla DreadKnight, well you should see these ones, full of milk, doubled in size :)
21:39 DreadKnight cazalla, the thing is that around here in this city, there's a really nasty stereotype of girls, "pitzipoanca", basically a club barbie doll that's so not my type
21:39 cazalla mircea_popescu, well yeah, if i'm honest that was part of it
21:40 mircea_popescu <benkay> son you're crazy <<< wasn't that mocsny fellow derping the same derpage in the 90s ? o, soon sex robots!!1
21:40 DreadKnight cazalla, pitzipoanca is usually smoking, has a lot of dresses, make-up, talks all the time on expensive latest iphone, goes clubbing all the time, listens only to music like house or manele (gypsy crap)
21:40 cazalla DreadKnight, i don't like that either
21:40 mircea_popescu DreadKnight the valley girl is not as romanian as you think.
21:41 nanotube fluffypony: the20year's problem was his browser was caching the old encrypted otp. heysteve's is probably same?
21:41 mircea_popescu nanotube likely yes.
21:41 DreadKnight cazalla, my mayor is a drug addict with classical cars and there are a ton of "posh" clubs around, so I'm not quite in the place I should probably be
21:42 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, yeah, noticed the pattern in other areas as well
21:42 mircea_popescu benkay: DreadKnight: gotta start from a known-good state. << a well chosen known-bad state works even better.
21:42 benkay if you're just learning how to do the thing?
21:43 mircea_popescu a, no.
21:43 mircea_popescu tbh, you shouldn't be learning by doing. but hey.
21:43 mircea_popescu cazalla: people who say that probably have small dicks << zing, srsly.
21:44 mircea_popescu artsy chicks are hard to get by now ?! what world is this!
21:44 benkay mircea_popescu: seems that training slaves is one of those things you can only learn by doing
21:44 mircea_popescu try and find some twentysomething that ISNT belabouring under the delusion that she can "create" art.
21:44 DreadKnight quite a bit of people seen me naked and they said I'm doing really good length wise; and I was really cold at that time (shrinkage)
21:45 benkay <mircea_popescu> try and find some twentysomething that ISNT belabouring under the delusion that she can "create" art. // srsly
21:45 cazalla DreadKnight, exception that proves the rule perhaps
21:45 benkay <DreadKnight> quite a bit of people seen me naked and they said I'm doing really good length wise; and I was really cold at that time (shrinkage)
21:45 benkay // but nothing to compare on your own?
21:45 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, compared to other types, artsy chicks are fewer, so more difficulty in getting one
21:45 benkay DreadKnight: that's a geography problem
21:46 cazalla DreadKnight, you see artsy as smart, i see it as dumb, we probably like the same women
21:47 DreadKnight so a girl who makes 3d characters is dumb, while one that only smokes and drinks is better? xD
21:47 benkay til that dumb has nothing to do with intelligence in aus
21:49 cazalla DreadKnight, i'm sure i read something before that people who drink excessively are often smart
21:49 mircea_popescu ;;google bani pentru piariste
21:49 gribble Aprilie 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2010/04>; Rautati si Mizerii pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/rautati-si-mizerii/>
21:49 mircea_popescu DreadKnight http://trilema.com/2010/bani-pentru-piariste/ >> thjat might amuse you
21:49 assbot Bani pentru piariste pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
21:50 mircea_popescu i wouldn't fuck a woman that doesn't drink.
21:50 mircea_popescu smoking... either way really.
21:50 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: I don't agree to that joke about "desperate", particularly when demisexual persons are considered part of the asexual spectrum, and in my case, I don't particularly have a strong & compelling sex drive a lot of the time
21:50 asciilifeform zoo of the future << zoolag.
21:50 asciilifeform !s zoolag
21:50 assbot 3 results for 'zoolag' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=zoolag
21:50 mircea_popescu spectrum eh ?
21:51 benkay sex drive lol
21:51 kuzetsa yes, human asexuality isn't a black & white condition, there are gradiations and different forms it can take (like for instance, demisexual)
21:51 cazalla mircea_popescu, i don't think people who refrain from drinking actually fuck, my missus for example
21:51 benkay the person who drives the relationship makes sex happen, not the other way around.
21:52 benkay ever seen two people who both like to be told what to do in bed lie there hoping the other will make a move?
21:52 mircea_popescu ^
21:52 kuzetsa benkay: I'm neither exclusively top nor bottom no submisive nor dominant in that regard :)
21:52 benkay "did his toe touch mine? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SEX?"
21:52 mircea_popescu kuzetsa are you basically trying to not be anything ?
21:52 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: nah, far from it -- demisexual is a thing
21:52 mircea_popescu cazalla half wine enemas work wonders on them.
21:53 mircea_popescu kuzetsa only according to you.
21:53 benkay WINE ENEMA
21:53 kuzetsa ;;ud demisexual
21:53 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=demisexual | Demisexuals are characterized by a lack of sexual attraction toward any person unless they become deeply emotionally or romantically connected with...
21:53 asciilifeform sex drive >> http://www.easylife.org/fufme/faq-use.html
21:53 assbot FuckU-FuckMe. Changing the feel of communication.
21:53 mircea_popescu lol asciilifeform king of pun
21:53 benkay pwm?
21:54 cazalla kuzetsa, you remind me of this type of person http://i.imgur.com/tAShNZU.jpg
21:54 asciilifeform benkay: pulse width modulation ?
21:54 benkay :D
21:54 benkay drive jokes
21:55 kuzetsa cazalla: a lot of those are true about me
21:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00079935 = 7.0343 BTC [-]
21:55 mircea_popescu lmao not bad imgur.
21:56 benkay haha
21:56 kuzetsa cazalla: thanks for linking that too, I didn't realize the word "kyriarchy" was even a thing (this word pleases me, it's a good thing to have a word for, and as a thing, kyriarchy sucks all of the badness)
21:57 mircea_popescu benkay WINE ENEMA << yes. a regular bottle of white wine should suffice for two girls. mix in about a liter of warm water, use a bag or syringe and finish with jewel buttplug.
21:57 asciilifeform 'rule by the rulers', lol
21:57 mircea_popescu ;;ud kyriarchy
21:57 gribble http://el.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kyriarchy | Ļ„Ļ…Ļ‡Ī±ĪÆĪæ A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z # Ī½Ī­Īæ tv. ĪœĻŒĪ“Ī±. thot Ā· totes magotes Ā· colonel angus Ā· reddit hug Ā· poopsock Ā· tittybong Ā· poopsterbateĀ ...
21:57 benkay poopsock?
21:57 benkay tittybong?
21:57 mircea_popescu o hey!
21:58 * mircea_popescu decides to be MP, Supreme Bitcoin Kyriarch henceforth.
21:58 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: this is more better than... whatever the fuck that particult urban dictioary gibberish was (and unlike urban dictionary, has actual citations) ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyriarchy
21:58 assbot Kyriarchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:58 * asciilifeform owns 'kyristor.com'
21:58 cazalla benkay you've never had a poopsock? clearly you've never played an mmorpg then
21:58 benkay i did eve for a while
21:58 asciilifeform (think 'resistor' or 'capacitor')
21:58 mircea_popescu well not to that degree.
21:59 benkay but no, that sort of shit's far less entertaining than...anything else.
21:59 mircea_popescu "Kyriarchy ("rule by a lord") is a social system or set of connecting social systems built around domination, oppression, and submission. " << yeah. basically, they now have a word to describe how the world both is and is supposed to be.
21:59 * kuzetsa narrows eyes
21:59 mircea_popescu well done femiderps :D
21:59 kuzetsa libertarians piss me the fuck off too, actually -_-
22:00 benkay they've come full circle to making sense i guess
22:00 kuzetsa well they do and they don't
22:00 mircea_popescu whai ? they just protest teh kyriarchy
22:00 kuzetsa right libertarianism, specifically
22:00 asciilifeform just wait till we plug the kyristors in.
22:01 kuzetsa ... considering that left libertarianism isn't particularly incompatible with democratic socialism
22:01 mircea_popescu "democratic socialism" is incompatible with reality.
22:01 DreadKnight that imgur is what I had in mind as well overall
22:02 cazalla or a really subtle troll
22:02 DreadKnight :D
22:02 mircea_popescu "FuckU-FuckMe is the most powerful, pleasurable, inexpensive, and only dual-party Internet remote intercourse tool on the market today." << this should be on an ipo
22:02 mircea_popescu anyone here care to recycle that website into a tardstalk ipo ?
22:02 asciilifeform lol!
22:02 cazalla i guess the best trolls are the ones that you're not sure of
22:03 DreadKnight agree
22:05 DreadKnight it's a form or art :D
22:05 DreadKnight of*
22:05 mircea_popescu anyway, does kuzetsa get the crown for the first libertard to have tried b-a or does truffles actually get that one ?
22:05 kuzetsa what's a b-a?
22:05 mircea_popescu this place.
22:05 kuzetsa oh
22:06 kuzetsa ok, then what's a libertard?
22:06 DreadKnight bacon
22:06 mircea_popescu someone who mistakenly believes that human life can have meaning outside of an opressive structure.
22:06 kuzetsa specifically, is it a pejorative term (I assume) aimed at a particular political affiliation?
22:06 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: oh, no, I don't think humans are AT ALL MEANINGFUL IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE EVER
22:06 mircea_popescu generally, people who identify as liberals, progressives, social-something or the other etc.
22:07 kuzetsa the universe would still exist if humanity was wiped out
22:07 mircea_popescu that has nothing to do.
22:07 kuzetsa this planet is nothing special either
22:07 mircea_popescu this isn't an ontological discussion.
22:07 DreadKnight xD
22:07 DreadKnight it's political
22:07 mircea_popescu quite.
22:08 kuzetsa huh
22:08 mircea_popescu basically, anyone who's to the left of, being in favour of the release of serbs in medieval germany/russia could count as a libertard, depending how the conversation turns.
22:08 kuzetsa so to clarify, are you referring to things vaguely on the side of "social left" = libertard?
22:08 DreadKnight kuzetsa, do you think that the opinion of all people matter? (something to step in the right direction)
22:09 kuzetsa DreadKnight: no, most people don't matter
22:09 mircea_popescu kuzetsa and most of contemporary "right".
22:09 DreadKnight kuzetsa, but why?
22:09 mircea_popescu <kuzetsa> DreadKnight: no, most people don't matter << isn't that opressive ?!
22:09 kuzetsa people don't matter, and their opinions tend to be at least twice as stupid
22:10 DreadKnight why? :P
22:10 kuzetsa DreadKnight: as mircea_popescu said, this isn't an ontological discussion (and then you chimed in to qualify: it's political)
22:12 DreadKnight you were almost talking about aliens
22:12 DreadKnight mircea brought you back to earth
22:13 kuzetsa nah, more along the lines of the heat death of the universe (at which point, politics are no longer relevant)
22:13 mircea_popescu of course they are.
22:13 mircea_popescu what isn't relevant is said death.
22:13 kuzetsa heat death of the universe resets everything to a state of entropy, including politics
22:14 asciilifeform http://kyristor.com << dumped my ancient derpage in there for archaeologists to derp on.
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22:14 assbot kyristor
22:14 mircea_popescu one of the telling symptoms of the libertard is that he'll replace his person as is with some sort of ilimited derivative of god, and pretend to concern himself with "the termic death of the universe".
22:14 DreadKnight universe will likely reset itself, all supposedly immortal beings within it's bounds will get poked as well with it
22:14 mircea_popescu this is not a consideration open to you, the demiamorous pansexual w/e the hell.
22:14 * kuzetsa shrugs
22:15 kuzetsa aliens wouldn't be as tedious as human-type people are... socializing is hard :(
22:15 DreadKnight do you know any aliens?
22:15 kuzetsa (this is that "social idiot" thing I mentioned)
22:15 mircea_popescu right, the dollies wouldn't be as hard as the classmates, if the dollies were classmates.
22:15 mircea_popescu except, they are not.
22:15 mircea_popescu this oppressive point of reality must be digested.
22:15 kuzetsa DreadKnight: none, no, they just seem plausibly less tedious (though not neccessarily friendly to be around) than figuring out how people work
22:16 DreadKnight Kushed, just because they're from a different place doesn't mean they're not affected by polarity / gravity and yin&yang as well
22:16 mircea_popescu poor Kushed
22:16 DreadKnight right
22:17 DreadKnight kuzetsa, ^
22:17 kuzetsa DreadKnight: my premise in thinking it would plausibly be less tedious isn't that they would be "better" but that it would be less "same old shit"
22:18 DreadKnight anyway, you're kinda dodging the libertard subject thingy, so moving on I guess...
22:18 kuzetsa I don't know what libertard means, so yeah
22:18 DreadKnight kuzetsa, same colors in their world as well, unless they get to see more of them or maybe less
22:18 DreadKnight or none
22:19 DreadKnight seen a nice asian movie about humanity going blind
22:19 DreadKnight thanks to some virus
22:19 kuzetsa neat
22:19 mircea_popescu i guess this one must be for cazalla http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnasqguj3m1qlne6uo1_500.jpg
22:19 asciilifeform asimov's 'nightfall.' 'children of men.' snore.
22:20 cazalla mircea_popescu, still too skinny
22:20 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, nice to see contrast like that
22:20 mircea_popescu twist : stephen king is actually going blind, and borges too
22:21 asciilifeform borges is dead
22:21 cazalla i don't see the appeal in the chains plus that residue you get on your hands from shit like that would annoy me
22:21 asciilifeform unless you're thinking of one other than jorge luis
22:21 mircea_popescu well, were.
22:22 mircea_popescu cazalla the appeal was supposed to be the secret life of the teenager.
22:22 DreadKnight +
22:22 DreadKnight it wasn't about the chain
22:23 DreadKnight though it shows some kinkiness :3
22:23 cazalla are you trying to chris hanson me or something
22:23 mthreat more coverage for sexy saffron, http://www.dailydot.com/business/pornstar-loves-bitcoin/
22:23 assbot Porn star explains why she loves Bitcoin while stripping
22:24 cazalla more PR than Indiancandy could pay for
22:24 decimation ascii have you read Hal Clement's Mission of Gravity
22:24 asciilifeform negative
22:24 mircea_popescu mthreat cool. cazalla yes :D
22:25 DreadKnight mthreat, she's actually from around :)
22:25 DreadKnight yeah
22:25 mircea_popescu DreadKnight from around where ?!
22:25 DreadKnight channel
22:25 mircea_popescu ah, the history we don't know :D
22:25 DreadKnight heard a bit
22:25 decimation What about Niven's "A World Out of Time"
22:26 decimation 1970's prisonier who was cryo-frozen, then unfrozen in the future and sent on a mission to the center of galaxy
22:26 * asciilifeform thinks niven is a hack
22:27 DreadKnight decimation, ever seen Idiocracy movie?
22:27 decimation yeah I've seen it
22:27 decimation I started ringworld, I thought it was boring, didn't get the hype
22:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.00079813 = 25.181 BTC [-] {2}
22:29 decimation 2001: a space odyssey was one of my favorite movies as a kid, but I was disappointed by the book honestly
22:30 decimation kubrik > clarke
22:30 kuzetsa whatever, I don't care if I'm a libertard or not -- figuring out what labels even are for is too much like work
22:31 asciilifeform labels aren't arbitrarily tacked on - they're lived.
22:31 kuzetsa cazalla: sorry about earlier throwing a fit about the "I'd hit it" or whatever and trashy something or other (no clue what you even said, it wasn't that bad though)
22:31 decimation you might not be interested in politics, but politics are interested in you...
22:31 mircea_popescu decimation lol
22:32 mircea_popescu kuzetsa you are, yeah, but the prediction attendant would be that you'd never make it here, and yet it's not coming true.
22:32 mircea_popescu obviously social sciences aren't real sciences.
22:32 mthreat isn't economics a social science?
22:32 mircea_popescu indeed.
22:33 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: mostly I'm just already jaded and given up on any sort of quota for how much offensive shit I'm going to be bothered by at any given time... it sometimes takes a bit of effort to "give up and just go with it"
22:33 decimation until someone has developed a deterministic model of the human mind, I don't think social sciences can do any thing more than tell stories
22:34 mircea_popescu kuzetsa another victory for the kyriarchy.
22:34 kuzetsa lulz
22:34 kuzetsa apparently, sure
22:34 kuzetsa I secretly got my libertard stink all over it though
22:35 kuzetsa not even very stealthy, I think some people noticed me doing it :/
22:35 mircea_popescu kyriarchy does not care what you're thinking while taking its unsolicited fat cock, as long as you moan appropriately.
22:35 mircea_popescu kinda what makes it better than oppresive regimes a la usg in the first place.
22:36 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/12VNCE3.txt )
22:36 asciilifeform !b 2
22:36 kuzetsa perhaps
22:36 kuzetsa my problem is not knowing what's appropriate
22:37 kuzetsa I'm far more likely to speak up when I don't understand what's going on or why than I am to "moan" (appropriately or otherwise)
22:38 decimation " From the system's perspective, not only did it still get blown, it liked it even more. In this analogy, the system is the system and you're not."
22:38 kuzetsa oh, that
22:38 kuzetsa decimation: in that case, moirallegiance comes to mind
22:38 decimation http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/12/product_review_panasonic_pt_ax.html
22:38 assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Product Review: Panasonic PT AX200U (Hipsters On Food Stamps Part 3)
22:39 cazalla kuzetsa, that's ok, nothing offends me
22:39 kuzetsa I enjoy debate, particularly when it turns into moirallegiance
22:39 kuzetsa ;;ud moirallegiance
22:39 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Moirail | Jul 6, 2011 ... Your soul mate in a non-romantic sense. You cannot live without this person; they complete you. They balance you. You would be lost foreverĀ ...
22:39 kuzetsa crap
22:39 kuzetsa wrong word
22:39 kuzetsa I suck at fandom
22:40 kuzetsa ;;ud kismesis
22:40 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kismesis | A Kismesis is the term used to describe deep, deep hatred for someone. This is the person that you could, and will likely, hate for all your life, ...
22:40 kuzetsa ^ so hot <3
22:41 DreadKnight are you into stocks, kuzetsa ?
22:41 kuzetsa DreadKnight: I'm more into TA and automating trades than the stocks themselves
22:42 DreadKnight kuzetsa, well, at least they're in the same book; what are you plotting?
22:42 kuzetsa speaking of which, I had been meaning to see if MPEX or any of the others have a decent API
22:43 asciilifeform 'If you want a partial understanding of why 19-21 Saudi/Egyptian terrorists could live in America and enjoy our strip clubs but still want to crumble our architecture, there you go.'
22:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19074 @ 0.00079799 = 15.2209 BTC [-] {2}
22:43 Duffer1 any of the others?
22:44 kuzetsa odd, is http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php not the right address anymore?
22:44 assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:44 DreadKnight mpex.ws
22:44 kuzetsa ah, thanks -- https://twitter.com/mpex1 lies
22:44 assbot MPEx (MPEx1) auf Twitter
22:45 decimation ascii I've been that engineer at the party, and I totally get his point
22:45 asciilifeform decimation: but you aren't there now.
22:45 kuzetsa (that twitter still shows http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php as being the relevant site)
22:45 assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
22:45 decimation true. one must realize that having a great respect for facts does not exclude good ol' human fun
22:46 kuzetsa hmm, is there no REST APIs on mpex?
22:46 benkay <mircea_popescu> i guess this one must be for cazalla http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnasqguj3m1qlne6uo1_500.jpg // nommm
22:46 benkay kuzetsa: don't you start with what MPEx is missing. it's PERFECT - PERFECT I TELL YOU
22:46 decimation famously the hijackers were staying at a motel in Laurel within sight of the NSA director's office
22:47 decimation kuzetsa, I think you will find that the folks on this channel revile using HTTP for serving up anything other than static pages
22:47 kuzetsa benkay: well my bot only works with REST APIs (json or otherwise) so ... I kinda need APIs to use it sanely --- https://github.com/kuzetsa/gekko/releases
22:47 assbot Releases kuzetsa/gekko GitHub
22:48 kuzetsa decimation: also, HTTP is not the only way of doing REST APIs
22:50 kuzetsa anyway, later everyone -- was nice actually talking today (as opposed to mostly idling) --- I'll bbl or something (though probably not tonight)
22:51 DreadKnight kuzetsa, cute that you have a github account :D
22:52 DreadKnight kuzetsa, bye for now
22:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8184 @ 0.00079778 = 6.529 BTC [-] {2}
23:03 mircea_popescu <kuzetsa> my problem is not knowing what's appropriate << generally, if it's offensive it's appropriate.
23:05 mircea_popescu kuzetsa> speaking of which, I had been meaning to see if MPEX or any of the others have a decent API << ahhh all the history one does not know :D
23:06 mircea_popescu <kuzetsa> (that twitter still shows http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php as being the relevant site) << twitter is clueless
23:06 assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
23:11 benkay oh and a side note mpex.co is hardcoded into asset descs mircea_popescu
23:12 mircea_popescu it's coming back dun sweat it.
23:15 * kuzetsa facepalms
23:15 kuzetsa I see, I see... now that I have nick highlighting set up on my client it actually highlights me and makes a flashing screen notification when people mention my nick
23:16 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: thanks though, I never would've noticed that (delayed) reply if you hadn't included my nick in the message.
23:17 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, hah, I like that bani-pentru-piariste article; If it was up to me I would have skipped college, but parents... *sigh*
23:17 kuzetsa offensive is appropriate though... hmm
23:19 DreadKnight I used to have a buddy who's an informatics teacher at a highschool; when I talked in english he usually found that rather offensive and snobbish
23:19 DreadKnight basically he didn't knew english well enough but was afraid to admit it
23:20 decimation what's 'informatics'? computer programming?
23:20 DreadKnight I find it sad when I see people who want to make money from IT but they just don't focus on properly learning english first
23:20 kuzetsa as per quote (generally, if it's offensive it's appropriate) ---> http://picpaste.com/pics/128231838279.1406431149.jpg
23:20 kuzetsa just FYI, warning, that pic is likely meant as an attempt at offending straight men
23:20 DreadKnight decimation, computer science; basically talking about components and crap; most of the time leaving students to spend time on the internet as they wish while he's getting paid anyway
23:21 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: come to think of it, I think it was actually you who originally posted that in a bitcoin channel a couple years ago
23:21 DreadKnight kuzetsa, we need a new plague
23:21 decimation yeah it seems english has become the lingua franca of that kind of work
23:21 kuzetsa DreadKnight: plague?
23:22 kuzetsa who needs a plague... the creatures of earth? how big a plague? global pandemic? regional outbreak?
23:22 mircea_popescu kuzetsa you have any idea how old school that is ?
23:23 mircea_popescu exactly.
23:23 kuzetsa I saw a game I've been meaning to try out which simulates biological attacks on the planet (earth, or some other... don't recall) or something
23:23 DreadKnight decimation, ex-gf bugged me a lot to teach her web design / coding so that she can make a lot of money easily; she fails at english and she's not passionate or smart enough; and people around said I'm against finding a companion and rather set high standards xD
23:23 kuzetsa mircea_popescu: how old school "that" is ... which "that" are you referring to?
23:24 DreadKnight kuzetsa, "we need a new plague" is from "The office" show, it's basically a meme now, google it
23:25 kuzetsa oh
23:25 kuzetsa I've seen the office (both the UK and american variant)
23:25 DreadKnight tried to watch UK one as well, simply stopped.
23:26 DreadKnight don't want to see the exact same jokes by copy cat actors all over again
23:26 DreadKnight and not always very fond of british accent and words
23:27 kuzetsa ah found it --- http://youtu.be/pSat_gLDXPc (it's apparently called "plague, inc.")
23:27 assbot Plague Inc: Evolved Official Launch Trailer - YouTube
23:28 DreadKnight mircea_popescu, did you went to college yourself? it's a bit of a trend now apparently for people in IT set on becoming rich
23:28 DreadKnight kuzetsa, meant google image search
23:29 DreadKnight kuzetsa, guess it's the movie you mentioned
23:29 kuzetsa DreadKnight: movie?
23:29 kuzetsa what movie?
23:30 kuzetsa [23:23:25] <+kuzetsa> I saw a game I've been meaning to try out which simulates biological attacks on the planet (earth, or some other... don't recall) or something
23:30 kuzetsa "plague inc." is a game, not a movie
23:30 DreadKnight yeah yeah
23:31 DreadKnight seems interesting
23:32 kuzetsa that's a trailer for the PC / console version, it was originally a smartphone/tablet app
23:32 DreadKnight most smartphone/tablet games are jokes
23:33 kuzetsa I got a lot of fun out of fruit ninja and angry birds before I was sick of them
23:33 DreadKnight free-to-play applied horribly mostly, other times people trying to make a quick buck with minimum amount of work
23:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.0008023 = 15.685 BTC [+] {3}
23:57 benkay <DreadKnight> don't want to see the exact same jokes by copy cat actors all over again // ahaha wait wasn't the UK one first?
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