| 00:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00033182 = 5.0768 BTC [-] |
| 00:28 |
cazalla |
!up whaack |
| 00:28 |
whaack |
ty |
| 00:29 |
whaack |
does the MIT btc conference fall in the category of shit you guys give interest to? |
| 00:31 |
* |
adlai guesses that the burden of relevance proving is on the messenger |
| 00:31 |
adlai |
you have a voice, use it! |
| 00:33 |
cazalla |
not really whaack, same speakers, same sponsors, same shit |
| 00:35 |
adlai |
from what i've heard, they want to form a Third Foundation. this is getting even thicker than asimov |
| 00:35 |
whaack |
Joi was saying that yeah he wanted an organization that worked on hardware wallets |
| 00:36 |
whaack |
devoid of interests in profit or political affairs, but merely the ideals of bitcoin |
| 00:37 |
adlai |
whaack: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1299 |
| 00:37 |
assbot |
Loper OS » Don’t Blame the Mice. ... ( http://bit.ly/190fXPr ) |
| 00:40 |
danielpbarron |
i feel like this relates to the conversation not too long ago about buying hardware for specific purposes, and how it tells your enemy exactly how he can screw you |
| |
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| 00:40 |
whaack |
adlai: ah yes I've read this, I like it a lot. I'm currently taking the task of building my own hardware and writing my own transaction signing tool. It's difficult though and pushing the limits of my feeble brain |
| 00:41 |
adlai |
what hardware are you building? |
| 00:43 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 200 @ 0.0125 = 2.5 BTC [+] |
| 00:43 |
whaack |
adlai: Haha I guess I should say I've mentally told myself I'm going to do the task - no work has been put in yet. But I just want to build my own bitcoin tool. I probably won't wind up using it but I want to prove to myself that I'm able to do it. |
| 00:44 |
adlai |
if you have those abilities, why not put them to use building something useful? |
| 00:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00033322 = 1.7327 BTC [+] {2} |
| 01:11 |
cazalla |
!up chiral |
| 01:26 |
adlai |
“These defendants stand accused of conspiring to carry out the violent overthrow of a foreign government, in violation of U.S. law,” said Attorney General Eric Holder. http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-defendants-charged-their-role-attempted-coup-gambia |
| 01:26 |
assbot |
Two Defendants Charged for their Role in an Attempted Coup in The Gambia | OPA | Department of Justice ... ( http://bit.ly/1ErF6Qr ) |
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| 01:59 |
mircea_popescu |
adlai from what i've heard, they want to form a Third Foundation. this is getting even thicker than asimov << lolz. the part where they carefully avoid the why of it, and how exactly the old one died is also the part that ensures they stay irrelevant. |
| 01:59 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell whaack Joi can get in the wot. |
| 01:59 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
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| 03:00 |
mircea_popescu |
adlai this is different from nuland how ? |
| 03:01 |
adlai |
armed insurrection, like suicide, is only punishable when failed |
| 03:02 |
mircea_popescu |
but nuland's ukraine coup failed so spectacularly it's contending with the iran contra affair. |
| 03:03 |
adlai |
well the us plays the role of global policeman, and suicide-by-cop is not punishable (except for maybe retiring the individual cop early, since he won't make a good public face for the department) |
| 03:04 |
mircea_popescu |
i'd totally prosecute her. |
| 03:06 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, those fucking idiots. just how hard is it to mine a coupla guard towers. |
| 03:07 |
mircea_popescu |
in "the gambia" |
| 03:16 |
mircea_popescu |
!up chiral |
| 03:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00033805 = 2.434 BTC [+] |
| 03:24 |
mircea_popescu |
weirdest shit of all time : |
| 03:25 |
mircea_popescu |
66.249.67.2 - - [08/Mar/2015:01:59:53 -0500] "GET /five-bucks-for-great-justice/ HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" |
| 03:25 |
mircea_popescu |
66.249.67.2 - - [08/Mar/2015:03:00:00 -0400] "GET /steampunk-tower-defense HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" |
| 03:25 |
mircea_popescu |
took me like five minutes to figure out wtf happened with that one hour gap. |
| 03:38 |
adlai |
eastern standard siesta |
| 03:39 |
|
Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" http://bitbet.us/bet/1122/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 24(Y):76(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.93804235 BTC. Current weight: 69,955. |
| 03:40 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| |
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| 04:14 |
mircea_popescu |
"The most important of these has been the tolerance of C compilers to errors in type. As should be clear from the history above, C evolved from typeless languages. It did not suddenly appear to its earliest users and developers as an entirely new language with its own rules; instead we continually had to adapt existing programs as the language developed, and make allowance for an existing body of code. (Later, the ANSI |
| 04:14 |
mircea_popescu |
X3J11 committee standardizing C would face the same problem.)" |
| 04:14 |
mircea_popescu |
the birth of the problem, i guess. |
| 04:18 |
mircea_popescu |
"Nevertheless, C's approach to strings works well." :D |
| 04:22 |
|
Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" http://bitbet.us/bet/1122/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.93804235 BTC. Current weight: 69,887. |
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| 04:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12562 @ 0.00033062 = 4.1532 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 26 minutes ~ |
| 05:04 |
adlai |
lol! https://bitbet.us/bet/1122/#c4636 OP is clearly ignorant of S.BBET's ownership... |
| 05:04 |
assbot |
BitBet - BTC to top $413 before Songkran :: 3.23 B (22%) on Yes, 11.71 B (78%) on No | closing in 1 month 14 hours | weight: 69`820 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtMdVI ) |
| |
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| 05:22 |
ben_vulpes |
your nightly wtf: http://dpaste.com/2Y11CPJ |
| 05:22 |
assbot |
dpaste: 2Y11CPJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtOMa4 ) |
| 05:22 |
ben_vulpes |
golang json parser barfs on quoted empty arrays. |
| 05:22 |
ben_vulpes |
apparently. |
| |
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| 06:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11832 @ 0.00034574 = 4.0908 BTC [+] {2} |
| 06:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4394 @ 0.00034981 = 1.5371 BTC [+] |
| 06:09 |
ben_vulpes |
(although who knows - maybe i'm a moron for trying to pass it quoted empty arrays) |
| |
~ 1 hours 34 minutes ~ |
| 07:44 |
punkman |
so I just got a call from the Congo, didn't have enough time to pick it up. wonder what kind of scam it was |
| 07:44 |
adlai |
good thing you didn't answer, might have been implicated in a coup |
| 07:45 |
kakobrekla |
i got one from azerbaijan last friday evening. |
| 07:45 |
cazalla |
and i got one from all your mums |
| 07:45 |
cazalla |
and now i'm going to bed! zzz |
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| 08:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43400 @ 0.00033718 = 14.6336 BTC [-] {3} |
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| 08:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00032771 = 6.7181 BTC [-] |
| 08:36 |
danielpbarron |
https://twitter.com/landsknechting/status/574482741690900480 |
| 08:36 |
assbot |
/hashtag/AggressiveCleavage?src=hash- the /hashtag/GamerGate?src=hash OP I've been in training for my entire life... they pay me for this, y'all... http://t.co/fSEA2kheDL |
| 08:47 |
adlai |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-07-2014#771797 << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1045931 |
| 08:47 |
assbot |
Logged on 27-07-2014 02:14:01; asciilifeform: http://kyristor.com << dumped my ancient derpage in there for archaeologists to derp on. |
| 08:47 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-03-2015 05:40:23; danielpbarron: i feel like this relates to the conversation not too long ago about buying hardware for specific purposes, and how it tells your enemy exactly how he can screw you |
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| 09:14 |
danielpbarron |
height=261137 vs height=202574 (usb3: height=235199) |
| 09:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00034593 = 9.3401 BTC [+] |
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| 09:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22722 @ 0.00034736 = 7.8927 BTC [+] {4} |
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| 10:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00032771 = 3.9161 BTC [-] |
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~ 1 hours 25 minutes ~ |
| 11:27 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: conversation not too long ago about buying hardware for specific purposes, and how it tells your enemy exactly how he can screw you << that observation was specifically about integrated circuits. which the buyer, barring extraordinary investment in time and machinery, cannot inspect. |
| |
~ 1 hours 3 minutes ~ |
| 12:31 |
punkman |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgjogLipvk |
| 12:31 |
assbot |
MIT Bitcoin Expo 2015 Day 1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1BldMQ1 ) |
| 12:32 |
punkman |
lol, antonopoulos telling people "blockchains without bitcoin is lightbulb without electricity" |
| 12:34 |
punkman |
probably not the best analogy for people that don't understand lightbulbs |
| 12:35 |
punkman |
!up ecstaticpessimst |
| 12:35 |
punkman |
your IP leaks because your client autojoins channel before cloak is activated |
| 12:36 |
punkman |
either configure "SASL" login, or disable autojoin |
| 12:36 |
ecstaticpessimst |
Ya, im actually getting that fixed RN |
| 12:36 |
ecstaticpessimst |
thanks for the headsup though |
| 12:36 |
punkman |
so did you get DoS'd the other day? |
| 12:37 |
ecstaticpessimst |
nope, I mean I probably would have noticed right? |
| 12:37 |
punkman |
well some people report their internet/router going down for short periods |
| 12:38 |
ecstaticpessimst |
Oh, I wasn't browsing from my home network. maybe I caused some problems for some other people....that would be exciting |
| 12:38 |
punkman |
I enjoyed the maritime story btw ;) |
| 12:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00035251 = 8.0725 BTC [+] |
| 12:48 |
Pierre_Rochard |
;;later tell pete_dushenski my compliments to the chef for the latest contravex post, all of the ingredients were perfectly cooked |
| 12:48 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 12:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30750 @ 0.00032767 = 10.0759 BTC [-] {2} |
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| 13:29 |
jurov |
;;ticker |
| 13:29 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 273.5, Best ask: 273.82, Bid-ask spread: 0.32000, Last trade: 273.83, 24 hour volume: 23811.29817168, 24 hour low: 271.61, 24 hour high: 280.76, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 13:29 |
jurov |
orly |
| 13:29 |
jurov |
!mpif |
| 13:29 |
assbot |
BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021361 B (Total: 467.13 B). Delta: 0.00 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000207 BTC [+] |
| |
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| 14:04 |
jurov |
https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2015/03/msg00133.html haha the replies |
| 14:04 |
assbot |
Debian 8/jessie - SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_TSYNC ... ( http://bit.ly/1EtaaiJ ) |
| 14:04 |
jurov |
!up yhwh_ |
| 14:09 |
asciilifeform |
RIP last usable graphical www browser (chromium, that is, not chrome, but doubt that either will be runnable after this) |
| 14:12 |
jurov |
what's the problem with firefox? |
| 14:13 |
jurov |
!up Uglux |
| 14:14 |
Uglux |
hello |
| |
~ 18 minutes ~ |
| 14:33 |
ben_vulpes |
what on earth is tsync? |
| 14:33 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1406.1/01964.html |
| 14:33 |
assbot |
Linux-Kernel Archive: [PATCH v6 7/9] seccomp: implement SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_TSYNC ... ( http://bit.ly/18sRul2 ) |
| 14:33 |
oglafbot |
http://oglaf.com/geometry/ |
| 14:33 |
assbot |
Problems in Geometry ... ( http://bit.ly/18sRx07 ) |
| 14:37 |
ben_vulpes |
waaay over my head. |
| 14:38 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: short summary: patch submitted by google chrome devs themselves; supposedly to simplify their sandbox 'jail' mechanism |
| |
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| 14:39 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: it was tentatively accepted, but is not found in mainstream kernels - considered experimental |
| 14:39 |
asciilifeform |
and, up until now, nothing made use of it |
| 14:39 |
asciilifeform |
but now google intends to force it through with the usual 'or we take the ball and go home' gambit. |
| 14:39 |
asciilifeform |
which should immediately make your ears stand up |
| 14:41 |
asciilifeform |
i deliberately won't comment on the technical aspects (can't bring myself to give a damn) but the psychological patterns point to - power play |
| 14:41 |
asciilifeform |
as mircea_popescu might phrase it |
| 14:41 |
asciilifeform |
'camel wants his nose in the tent' |
| 14:43 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps this is worth a brief digression: |
| |
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| 14:44 |
asciilifeform |
there are -two- separate types of policy re: a major project with 'open' contributions |
| 14:44 |
asciilifeform |
the 'what' - gets in |
| 14:44 |
asciilifeform |
and |
| 14:44 |
asciilifeform |
the 'who' gets to contribute |
| 14:45 |
asciilifeform |
shitgnomism is a thing mainly because these two very separate considerations somehow ended up munged into one |
| 14:46 |
asciilifeform |
as if it were possible for the machine itself to protest and say 'i don't like this particular 'what,' it was written to brutally rape the operator when the planets next align' |
| 14:47 |
asciilifeform |
bringing it back to the 'tsync' thread, there are two separate questions that the evil dwarves would have us believe are simply one - the technical merit or lack thereof of the 'tsync' mechanism |
| 14:48 |
asciilifeform |
whereas the real issue is, whether google should be permitted to stuff arbitrary strange into mainline kernel on their say-so |
| |
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| 14:49 |
asciilifeform |
a good chunk of the reputation of linus t. is that he's been fairly effective at keeping a lid on this kind of thing, historically |
| |
↖ |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
but my impression is that he's the 'boy stuffing his finger in the flood dike' as in the fairy tale |
| 14:50 |
asciilifeform |
if finger ever comes out - enjoy 'chrome os' |
| 14:58 |
ben_vulpes |
what's the graphical www browser story over on le bsds? |
| 14:58 |
asciilifeform |
i was speaking generally |
| 14:59 |
asciilifeform |
i don't consider browser that won't build across the whole posix planet to even 'count' for the purpose of discussion |
| 15:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15199 @ 0.00034798 = 5.2889 BTC [+] |
| 15:03 |
asciilifeform |
i'm also not especially interested in 'hair shirt' browsers; |
| 15:03 |
asciilifeform |
the folks who are willing to use 'lynx' for 100% of their www needs already know who they are. |
| |
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| 15:03 |
thestringpuller |
hair shirt? |
| 15:04 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform does use lynx! |
| 15:04 |
thestringpuller |
"Get your filthy javascript and css away from me" |
| 15:04 |
asciilifeform |
hair shirt >> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07113b.htm |
| 15:04 |
assbot |
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Hairshirt ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATrkyw ) |
| 15:05 |
punkman |
I don't mind the CSS, but the javascript situation is ridiculous |
| 15:05 |
thestringpuller |
hey asciilifeform i have a brilliant idea |
| 15:05 |
thestringpuller |
how about we store private GPG keys in the javascript portion of the browser! |
| 15:05 |
thestringpuller |
what could possibly go wrong?!? |
| 15:05 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: already baked... |
| 15:06 |
asciilifeform |
what was it called |
| 15:06 |
asciilifeform |
'keybase' ? |
| 15:06 |
punkman |
there's a few of them |
| 15:06 |
thestringpuller |
i thought keybase held your keys for you cause people are stupid |
| 15:06 |
asciilifeform |
http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/83/St_Aspais_Melun_-_cilice.jpg >> hair shirt |
| 15:06 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1ATrBla ) |
| 15:06 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: at any rate, that particular flavour of idiocy has been around for a while |
| 15:06 |
punkman |
btw remember Shrem signing with openpgpjs, didn't even validate |
| 15:07 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: but its almost comical nao tho. |
| 15:07 |
ben_vulpes |
was it even shrem? |
| 15:07 |
thestringpuller |
like this is stuff for a good stand up |
| 15:07 |
punkman |
we'll never know |
| 15:08 |
punkman |
thestringpuller: they more wanted to make a "better" keyserver, that linked to your twitter/github/whatever. |
| 15:08 |
thestringpuller |
http://i.imgur.com/t2sfuot.jpg |
| 15:09 |
ben_vulpes |
punkman, thestringpuller: a "better keyserver"'d not be a bad thing to do. |
| 15:09 |
thestringpuller |
punkman: keybase is forcing users to trust in central authority rather than forcing users to learn "their lessons" |
| |
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| 15:09 |
punkman |
thestringpuller: no the encrypted key backup thing is optional |
| 15:09 |
punkman |
but it's an option that shouldn't exist |
| 15:09 |
thestringpuller |
exactly |
| 15:09 |
ben_vulpes |
key backup as a service is downright braindamaged. |
| 15:10 |
thestringpuller |
which causes more braindamages cause "consumer has come to expect" |
| 15:10 |
ben_vulpes |
"please compromise and brute force this juicy target." |
| 15:10 |
asciilifeform |
'wallet inspector' |
| 15:10 |
thestringpuller |
should come up with list of scam phrases |
| 15:10 |
punkman |
oh they got their own javascript pgp now https://keybase.io/kbpgp |
| 15:10 |
assbot |
kbpgp - PGP in JavaScript ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATs9HQ ) |
| 15:10 |
punkman |
I think they had openpgp.js before |
| 15:11 |
thestringpuller |
saw node.js |
| 15:11 |
thestringpuller |
closed the tab |
| 15:11 |
thestringpuller |
why run GPG on node.js when you can just you know use GPG.... |
| 15:11 |
punkman |
lol https://keybase.io/kbpgp/docs/in_the_wild |
| 15:11 |
assbot |
kbpgp - PGP in JavaScript ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATskCV ) |
| 15:11 |
* |
asciilifeform opened up the distribution zip, flipped randomly, and saw a page full of nist curves ! |
| 15:11 |
asciilifeform |
lol! |
| 15:11 |
* |
ben_vulpes halfway expects 'node' 'gpg' to shell out to platform bins |
| 15:12 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: https://pgpkeygen.com/ |
| 15:12 |
thestringpuller |
before you open that link |
| 15:12 |
thestringpuller |
if you have an anurism |
| 15:12 |
thestringpuller |
it's not my fault |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
looks as if it were meant for homework |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
for maths students |
| 15:12 |
asciilifeform |
that's the only use case i can really think of for this |
| 15:12 |
thestringpuller |
"Yes, it is as safe as generating your keys using a local application. The key generation on our website is done client-side only. This means the key pairs are generated entirely in your web browser and they never leave your computer. Our website never sees any key related data or the key itself." |
| 15:13 |
thestringpuller |
written by a TA XD |
| 15:13 |
asciilifeform |
l0l, so it was serious ?! |
| 15:13 |
* |
asciilifeform not surprised, and vaguely remembers this having been posted here before |
| 15:14 |
thestringpuller |
10 years from now when phuctor starts detecting broken entropy systems |
| 15:14 |
thestringpuller |
I will be interested in seeing what happens when you throw a key generator from here into the mix |
| 15:15 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: i must confess that the most likely reason its bell has never rung is that i haven't the resources to actually process the 5 mil. or so donated pubkeys sitting here on local disk |
| 15:15 |
thestringpuller |
and you don't want AWS in a zoo or with a gnu |
| 15:15 |
asciilifeform |
at any rate, only a serious case of braindamage would sabotage a key generator in such a way that duplicate moduli are produced |
| 15:15 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: it's on aws right now |
| 15:15 |
ben_vulpes |
http://www.afralisp.net/index.php << decimation i think was looking for CAD scripting? |
| 15:15 |
assbot |
Learn AutoLISP for AutoCAD productivity | AfraLISP ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATsV7F ) |
| 15:16 |
thestringpuller |
http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2yaahb/til_bertrand_russel_said_in_the_modern_world_the/cp7ob2k << the irony kills me here |
| 15:16 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: if you're unfamiliar with it - autolisp is a 1970s style lisp (complete with unsolved 'funarg problem' !) similar to emacs elisp |
| 15:17 |
ben_vulpes |
i am indeed unfamiliar with it. |
| 15:17 |
asciilifeform |
the kind of lisp undergrads tend to implement |
| 15:17 |
asciilifeform |
if ordered to 'write a lisp interpreter in three weeks' |
| 15:18 |
ben_vulpes |
http://www.openscad.org << the cad program i mistook for freecad in a several months old thread. |
| 15:18 |
assbot |
OpenSCAD - The Programmers Solid 3D CAD Modeller ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATtazF ) |
| 15:18 |
thestringpuller |
only LISP use in my undergrad program is in the AI courses |
| 15:18 |
thestringpuller |
i don't think the undergrads are smart enough to implement lisp |
| 15:18 |
punkman |
http://punkmanufacturing.com/wiki/software << small directory of CAD software |
| 15:18 |
assbot |
Software [Punk Manufacturing] ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATtePF ) |
| 15:18 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: implementing a programming language of one kind or another is, afaik, still sop as homework |
| 15:19 |
asciilifeform |
and lisps are generally the easiest |
| 15:19 |
ben_vulpes |
lisps are so damn easy. |
| 15:20 |
thestringpuller |
punkman: lol. how did autocad not make the list? |
| 15:20 |
ben_vulpes |
cute, freecad has a REPL |
| 15:21 |
thestringpuller |
all CAD should have REPL |
| 15:21 |
thestringpuller |
all 3d software should have some kind of REPL |
| 15:22 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: i think brainfuck was the only thing that fits that criteria during my undergrad at least |
| 15:22 |
thestringpuller |
most of the undergrads coming in had never seen a programming language in their lives so... |
| 15:23 |
thestringpuller |
"OMG I can make money programming compooters, i'd better jump on the CS bandwagon" |
| 15:23 |
ben_vulpes |
i still think CS is the worst way to make money programmering. |
| 15:23 |
punkman |
thestringpuller: everyone knows autocad, doesn't need to be in list |
| 15:25 |
thestringpuller |
it's the first cad software I used so I guess it's kinda "mainstream" now |
| 15:25 |
thestringpuller |
ben_vulpes: how so? what in your opinion is the best way? |
| 15:26 |
ben_vulpes |
avoid "baccalaureate" bezzle, hack js and css. |
| 15:26 |
ben_vulpes |
that is, if you really lack the kind of mind that hungers for something beyond "money". |
| 15:26 |
thestringpuller |
isn't that why people get CS degrees, or were getting? |
| 15:26 |
thestringpuller |
now people drop out in 1st year and go to SF and work for start up after start up |
| 15:27 |
thestringpuller |
hacking the js's and css's |
| 15:27 |
ben_vulpes |
thestringpuller: "OMG I can make money programming compooters, i'd better jump on the CS bandwagon" << you tell me |
| 15:28 |
BingoBoingo |
Studying CS would be a fine path if only the studiers would accept being deprived of computers until their 30's |
| 15:31 |
decimation |
http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/08/on-secretly-terrible-engineers/ < mostly rambling but has an interesting point "The difference between finance, management consulting, and engineering is that the first two fields have status hierarchy, and the third one doesn’t." |
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| 15:31 |
assbot |
On Secretly Terrible Engineers | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATuK4o ) |
| 15:32 |
punkman |
decimation: plenty of hierarchy, just not very coherent when observed from distance |
| 15:33 |
decimation |
punkman: yeah that's a good point. the outside visibility on a superficial level is somewhat obscure |
| 15:35 |
kakobrekla |
BingoBoingo> Studying CS would be a fine path if only the studiers would accept being deprived of computers until their 30's < hehe my old man was writing code years before he first saw a computer. |
| 15:35 |
adlai |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2014#663732 |
| 15:35 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-05-2014 02:02:08; gribble: The Story of Mel - Catb.org: <http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html>; The Story of Mel: <http://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/folklore/mel.html>; The Story of Mel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_Mel> |
| 15:36 |
ben_vulpes |
decimation: all i know is how to google shit. |
| 15:38 |
decimation |
I suppose that part of the problem really is that humans need a few more generations to sort out how to have a 'status hierarchy' for programmers |
| 15:40 |
ben_vulpes |
i don't know about that. generally working with any given individual for a few months is enough to suss out their competence. |
| 15:42 |
ben_vulpes |
this also entails delegating projects of various scope in different domains to them and then carefully reviewing delivered code and user-facing features. |
| 15:42 |
ben_vulpes |
but really it comes back to the wot. |
| 15:42 |
ben_vulpes |
buenos dias |
| 15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
hola zorro |
| 15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
the daily wtf comes to us from eliza i. http://trilema.com/2014/the-womans-job/#comment-112565 |
| 15:45 |
assbot |
The woman's job. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvRvDK ) |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
"You beast! You will pay hand over fist, you and the [Romanian political party]'s newspaper The Power that allows you to shit your dirty shit! This time you're fucked! See you in court garbage!" |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
fancy that. |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ironically, those people like me about as much as us democrats like ron paul. |
| 15:50 |
scoopbot |
New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/bitcoin-mining-gains-in-difficulty-network-grows-stronger/ |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
that was the receiving end. the providing end however, http://dpaste.com/1CPDMJY |
| 15:52 |
assbot |
dpaste: 1CPDMJY ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvSaF2 ) |
| 15:52 |
decimation |
http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2015/02/michael_munger_1.html < "Guest: And that--I do want to keep defending Buchanan. What Buchanan's worried about is a monolithic Leviathan. Because he thought, once you have a state, it will just eat all of the other choices. It will pull all of them inside, like a sort of great vortex. All of the choices will become public because that's the way that states work. That's the logic, is to expand. |
| 15:52 |
assbot |
" + soundfiledesc + " ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvSgN2 ) |
| 15:52 |
decimation |
Which is why he wanted private groups." |
| 15:52 |
mircea_popescu |
who the fuck is jonathan buckwheat. |
| 15:54 |
mircea_popescu |
heh if only. in fact, the state doesn't pull all choice into becoming public. that's an insanely optimistic view of the process. the state pulls public choice into meaninglessness, and then ruins all alternative. |
| 15:54 |
cazalla |
pete_dushenski, not sure my comment went through but fyi, the bitcoin center ny is getting into incubating startups if you didn't know already :) |
| 15:56 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla not only did i not realise that, but your comment was definitely caught up on the spamhole so thx for the heads up ! |
| 15:57 |
cazalla |
prolly because i included a link |
| 15:57 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell Pierre_Rochard mais merci ! |
| 15:57 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 15:57 |
cazalla |
your spambot clearly works if it labels pivoting to incubating startups as spam |
| 15:57 |
pete_dushenski |
cazalla no doubt :) |
| 15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
| 15:58 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 275.02, Best ask: 275.1, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 275.05, 24 hour volume: 17501.41698256, 24 hour low: 271.61, 24 hour high: 279.39, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 15:58 |
mircea_popescu |
none ?! what teh shit. |
| 15:58 |
pete_dushenski |
mebbe vwap measuring sv bitcoin start-ups |
| 15:58 |
pete_dushenski |
measures* |
| 15:59 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 16:00 |
pete_dushenski |
scoop-a-loop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/08/bitcoin-is-unfair-thats-the-point-and-so-it-shall-remain/ |
| 16:00 |
assbot |
Bitcoin is unfair. That’s the point and so it shall remain. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvT4Bu ) |
| 16:00 |
mircea_popescu |
i like that he's doing at least one a day. |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
and to top it all off : http://38.media.tumblr.com/23c332feb8bc5b13e17d084ba8ca5df2/tumblr_mxr5mixX1T1t52lk3o2_250.gif |
| 16:03 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1GvTpnI ) |
| 16:03 |
mircea_popescu |
this has been your morning installment of daily wtf. |
| 16:03 |
BingoBoingo |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2015#1045381 << lol |
| 16:03 |
assbot |
Logged on 07-03-2015 15:47:58; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ethyl ? |
| 16:04 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu i'm guessing that's 'daddy' and not 'daniel' ;) |
| 16:05 |
mircea_popescu |
such a perfect mirror for the peak of l'aile ou la cuisse |
| 16:06 |
pete_dushenski |
when was this peak ? |
| 16:06 |
pete_dushenski |
this is the movie you're referring to ? |
| 16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google "l'aile ou la cuisse" |
| 16:06 |
gribble |
L'aile ou la cuisse (1976) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074103/>; The Wing or the Thigh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wing_or_the_Thigh>; A.O.C. L'aile ou la Cuisse | Home: <http://aocnyc.com/> |
| 16:06 |
mircea_popescu |
^ |
| 16:07 |
pete_dushenski |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc2Ln2wYwi0 << check out that merc 600 ! |
| 16:07 |
assbot |
l 'aile ou la cuisse - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvTLL9 ) |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
mhm |
| 16:07 |
mircea_popescu |
funes knew shit. |
| 16:07 |
pete_dushenski |
as driven by idi amin, etc. |
| 16:08 |
pete_dushenski |
looks like ! |
| 16:08 |
mircea_popescu |
ima review it now. apparently i haven't. |
| 16:09 |
pete_dushenski |
nice. |
| 16:09 |
pete_dushenski |
i have cold hand luke on the schedule for today. |
| 16:09 |
pete_dushenski |
looking forward to finding a story worth exploring therein |
| 16:17 |
decimation |
pete_dushenski: did you see the top gear where they review the 'dictator class' mercs? |
| 16:18 |
pete_dushenski |
ooo i want to say yes but can't recall exactly! |
| 16:18 |
pete_dushenski |
newer mercs ? older ones ? |
| 16:19 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.bbcamerica.com/top-gear/guide/season-11/episode-5/ << this ? |
| 16:19 |
assbot |
Episode 5 | Season 11 | Episode Guide | Top Gear | BBC America ... ( http://bit.ly/1ATAFGA ) |
| 16:20 |
decimation |
heh there were a few I guess |
| 16:21 |
decimation |
it was an older one, clarkson claimed he owned it |
| 16:21 |
decimation |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVDKztQ-n1U < clips of the Mercedes grosser |
| 16:21 |
assbot |
Grosser vs. Corniche: Old Car Challenge Part 1 - Top Gear - BBC - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvUXOz ) |
| 16:23 |
pete_dushenski |
ya, jeremy has/had one, often whined that new window switches were $5k or something |
| 16:24 |
pete_dushenski |
pretty sure gaddafi had one as well. pol pot too |
| 16:24 |
decimation |
hehe yeah, well it's pretty much a museum piece |
| 16:25 |
pete_dushenski |
driveable art ! |
| 16:25 |
decimation |
there's a somewhat similar market for 'restored' wwii aircraft |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: my understanding is that folks who own machines like this, either become amateur machinists or cultivate a relationship with an actual machine shop |
| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: it's a surprisingly common 'old man hobby' where i live |
| 16:26 |
pete_dushenski |
or... have one in-house |
| 16:26 |
pete_dushenski |
well, old men have little else to occupy themselves with so they're always in search of projects |
| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
folks with 2,3,4+ classic cars under leather skins in their yard, in various states of repair |
| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
and a mazerati's worth of cnc gear in the cellar |
| 16:27 |
pete_dushenski |
it's definitely ambitious in its own way |
| 16:27 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: the thing that gets me, is that what percentage of the 'car' was actually original? |
| 16:27 |
decimation |
at some point, are you just driving a replica? |
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| 16:28 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: usually all of the visible parts and as much of the engine as can be helped |
| 16:28 |
asciilifeform |
(these folks are generally preoccupied with the authenticity of the engine, unlike, e.g., the famous cuban mechanics, because that's actually the part they imprinted on as children) |
| 16:28 |
pete_dushenski |
original or hand-made, either or a combination of the two are desirable. |
| 16:29 |
pete_dushenski |
and cubans could desire authenticity all they want and it still won't happen |
| 16:29 |
pete_dushenski |
like french croissants or beluga caviar |
| 16:30 |
pete_dushenski |
for usians, authentic parts are available, if expensive or just plain hard to find |
| 16:31 |
decimation |
I recently toured a 'restoration' shop where they rebuild wrecks from wwii |
| 16:31 |
decimation |
old men pay top dollar for these things, some of which were found as a wreck in the jungle. the end result has maybe 30% 'original' parts |
| 16:32 |
pete_dushenski |
there are barn-find ferrari *shells* that go for millions |
| 16:35 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/05/classic-cars-france-farm-fetch-millions-ferrari |
| 16:35 |
assbot |
Classic cars found in French farmhouse expected to fetch millions | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1GvWaoZ ) |
| 16:36 |
decimation |
interestingly, for the aircraft they pound out the frame using hammer press machines |
| 16:37 |
decimation |
I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts'. the answer: 1.) they apparently don't 'do' computers and 2.) the aircraft were all half-ass made to the blueprints anyway, often with 'by hand' adjustments |
| 16:39 |
pete_dushenski |
and today boeing outsources its parts to asia and... gets fucked. |
| 16:39 |
pete_dushenski |
there's much to be said for controlling your supply chain and having it in your backyard/garage/basement |
| 16:40 |
fluffypony |
my supply chain is in my fridge |
| 16:40 |
decimation |
pete_dushenski: it's hard for the 'capitalists' to refuse china's offer to 100% subsidize their manufacturing business |
| 16:41 |
ben_vulpes |
<decimation> I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts'. the answer: 1.) they apparently don't 'do' computers and 2.) the aircraft were all half-ass made to the blueprints anyway, often with 'by hand' adjustments << uh yeah that's how hand machining worked |
| 16:41 |
pete_dushenski |
fluffypony lol which is stocked by your better half, i imagine ? |
| 16:41 |
fluffypony |
exactly! |
| 16:42 |
pete_dushenski |
that's a lot of trust there. |
| 16:42 |
decimation |
ben_vulpes: yes, and granted many of these parts had complex curve shapes |
| 16:42 |
pete_dushenski |
decimation except boeing is tbtf |
| 16:42 |
pete_dushenski |
they're not capitalist in any sense of the term |
| 16:42 |
pete_dushenski |
they're usg through and through |
| 16:42 |
pete_dushenski |
so why not 'create jobs' ? |
| 16:43 |
decimation |
pete_dushenski: yeah that's why I put the scare quotes :) |
| 16:43 |
decimation |
boeing is in the business of being various state's bitch |
| 16:43 |
pete_dushenski |
unless of course this is a case of, like mp's observation on the decline of the british empire, there being no good men left to do what has to be done |
| 16:43 |
pete_dushenski |
no men of morals left in the states, work gets shipped abroad |
| 16:44 |
decimation |
I think there might be some of that, but I also doubt that britian's 'good men' could get much done trapped in the crazy monkey house of a modern us bureaucracy |
| 16:45 |
pete_dushenski |
sure, i'm not saying it's entirely the fault of the men in the context of their work, but it is their fault in the context of the systems of governance they support |
| 16:46 |
pete_dushenski |
so americans support welfare and free shit, so no one bothers to get up for work. |
| 16:46 |
decimation |
yes. for instance, the fact that the bond market in the us freaked out because a semi-good jobs report might imply that the fed might begin 'targeting' higher rates |
| 16:46 |
pete_dushenski |
to the extent that they don't have to, that no one is holding a gun to their head and they aren't starving, why bother ? |
| 16:47 |
pete_dushenski |
decimation there's no cause and effect there. |
| 16:47 |
pete_dushenski |
jobs reports have fuck all to do with anything. |
| 16:47 |
pete_dushenski |
heh the montly mpex reports matter more. |
| 16:47 |
decimation |
of course not, but direct government interventions do |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
scoopbot |
| 16:48 |
decimation |
the amusing bit is that folks think they are trading in a 'free market', but then actually act like they are scared government lackeys |
| 16:49 |
pete_dushenski |
scared of government lackeys how ? |
| 16:50 |
decimation |
well, when you are trading on the wholly-owned 'usd-coin' platform, it's easy to be scared when usg decides to tinker with various model parameters mid-flight |
| 16:51 |
pete_dushenski |
it seems to me that, at this point certainly, there's more general fear when there *isn't* tinkering |
| 16:51 |
pete_dushenski |
daily, if possible. |
| 16:53 |
decimation |
well, the other part of this issue is that the fed isn't tinkering alone, you also have the euros doing what they do |
| 16:54 |
decimation |
the idea that anyone could 'consider the implications' of whatever decision they make in the matter of bank interest rates, money supply, etc is pretty lulzy |
| 16:54 |
pete_dushenski |
"because history never happened and things are different now" |
| 16:54 |
pete_dushenski |
right. |
| 16:54 |
decimation |
pretty much yeah |
| 16:55 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski http://trilema.com/2015/laile-ou-la-cuisse/ |
| 16:55 |
assbot |
L'aile ou la cuisse pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1A5vy6f ) |
| 16:56 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu jesus christ on a cross you're fast. like seriously. |
| 16:56 |
mircea_popescu |
actually i took a break. |
| 16:56 |
pete_dushenski |
you would ;) |
| 16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 16:59 |
pete_dushenski |
so -assettes, anyone have any restaurant recommendations for jamaica ? |
| 16:59 |
pete_dushenski |
i enjoyed the ones you gents sent for oz :D |
| 17:01 |
pete_dushenski |
feel free to pgp-gram or ;;later tell if you've been to the home of usain bolt and.... other fast runners. |
| 17:02 |
decimation |
pete_dushenski: I presume you aren't going to one of those 'all-inclusive' resorts populated by the usian middle class? |
| 17:03 |
pete_dushenski |
not until one of them makes food that isn't better used on livestock |
| 17:03 |
decimation |
heh |
| 17:03 |
pete_dushenski |
if i'm going to do that to myself, i'll hop on a cruise ship |
| 17:03 |
pete_dushenski |
at least see a few different ports :) |
| 17:04 |
decimation |
yeah I did that once, the scant few hours at port makes it difficult to see anything other than the usual tourist garbage |
| 17:05 |
decimation |
and the food was mediocre in quality, but great in quantity |
| 17:05 |
mircea_popescu |
what cow eats that stuff! |
| 17:05 |
pete_dushenski |
mostly, yes, but it depends both on the size of the ship and where the ports are. |
| 17:05 |
pete_dushenski |
usg'ers ! |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> or cultivate a relationship with an actual machine shop << this is how itworked in the 80s too lol. a guy had to have relatiuons with mechanics. |
| 17:06 |
mircea_popescu |
just like a woman had to have relations with beauticians. |
| 17:06 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/news/press/ontape.htm " When she first recorded a deer eating nestlings, she wondered if they would eat eggs, too. She incorporated the help of a captive deer at the research center to find out. "We presented it [captive deer] with a few quail eggs -- just to see what it would do -- and it munched them right up." |
| 17:06 |
assbot |
'Herbivores' busted preying on bird nests ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHAv04 ) |
| 17:07 |
decimation |
apparently 'herbivores' are more than happy to eat little packages marked 'free protein' |
| 17:07 |
pete_dushenski |
decimation sounds like a normal cruise experience ! some islands are built up exclusively for tourists, but in real cities, whether shanghai or split, you can at least walk for a few hours in one direction and still have room to explore |
| 17:08 |
decimation |
pete_dushenski: yeah but 'real places' generally cost $$$, which is why cruises avoid them |
| 17:08 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu sorta the best way to not get anally gaped by mech/beautician. |
| 17:08 |
decimation |
for instance, my cruise ship also had a port of call on "Hispaniola" |
| 17:08 |
scoopbot |
New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/laile-ou-la-cuisse/ |
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| 17:09 |
pete_dushenski |
no relationship (dealership): $225/hr, relationship (small shop): $110/hr. |
| 17:09 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> the end result has maybe 30% 'original' parts << old men don't want the original parts of their wife, they just want a construct that looks like the wife did, in 72. |
| 17:09 |
pete_dushenski |
decimation depends on your budget really. |
| 17:10 |
pete_dushenski |
and timing. |
| 17:10 |
decimation |
turns out, this is a private peninsula of hati, wholly owned by royal caribbean. since it would be far too dangerous for the locals to serve up the vittles, the entire crew disembarked to operate the various bars and amusements on the 'beach' |
| 17:10 |
pete_dushenski |
i went on a cruise of se asia in 2002 when the post-9/11 deals made it... affordable. |
| 17:10 |
decimation |
meanwhile the surrounding seas were littered with shipwrecks |
| 17:11 |
pete_dushenski |
lol that's actually pretty funny. |
| 17:11 |
pete_dushenski |
sounds like disneyland or somethign. |
| 17:11 |
pete_dushenski |
something* |
| 17:12 |
decimation |
http://www.cruisecheap.com/cruise-lines/royal-caribbean-labadee.html < the glossy sheets still sell it as 'hispaniola' |
| 17:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1KHBKN5 ) |
| 17:12 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: re: old parts < yeah, especially since this particular shop specialized in making 'flyable' aircraft |
| 17:12 |
mircea_popescu |
<fluffypony> my supply chain is in my fridge << you eat molds ? |
| 17:14 |
decimation |
http://www.cruiselawnews.com/tags/labadee/ "The cruise line has been criticized for erecting a barb-wire fence around the resort to keep the Haitians out (photo right)," |
| 17:14 |
assbot |
: labadee : Cruise Law News ... ( http://bit.ly/1A5zi7I ) |
| 17:14 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> I think there might be some of that, but I also doubt that britian's 'good men' could get much done trapped in the crazy monkey house of a modern us bureaucracy << no, but they wouldn't be, see ? that's the very definition. "good men" is, obama comes and derps, they point and laugh, obama calls the national guard, they shoot it dead. |
| 17:16 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> the amusing bit is that folks think they are trading in a 'free market', but then actually act like they are scared government lackeys << quite! |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
dude pete_dushenski's cruizin' all over the world, buyin' cars and shit, but not conference ?! |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
| 17:17 |
gribble |
Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 275.47, Best ask: 275.48, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 275.6, 24 hour volume: 15922.63362314, 24 hour low: 271.61, 24 hour high: 278.73, 24 hour vwap: None |
| 17:17 |
pete_dushenski |
I SAID I HAVE A WEDDING THAT WEEKEND ! |
| 17:17 |
pete_dushenski |
not mine, mind. |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
NO!1 |
| 17:17 |
mircea_popescu |
whose then, your wife's ?! |
| 17:17 |
pete_dushenski |
YES! |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess mike gets it at 275, there being no average o.O |
| 17:18 |
pete_dushenski |
lol that was supposed to be for the NO... |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 7 |
| 17:18 |
assbot |
Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3YC2RDT.txt ) |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 1950/275 |
| 17:18 |
gribble |
7.09090909091 |
| 17:18 |
pete_dushenski |
it's some good friends that're getting married. |
| 17:19 |
pete_dushenski |
they'd have to be, amirite ?! |
| 17:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ya lol |
| 17:20 |
pete_dushenski |
the 4th is already mentally marked in the calendar |
| 17:20 |
pete_dushenski |
so barring births, deaths, or more weddings... |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
lol you're at the wrong age tho. prolly get 12-20 ppl marry a year. |
| 17:22 |
pete_dushenski |
well, not much i can do about that, is there. |
| 17:22 |
pete_dushenski |
other than totally hermitise myself. |
| 17:23 |
pete_dushenski |
although jeez, after ditching facebook and a smartphone, i seem to be moving in that direction. |
| 17:23 |
mircea_popescu |
<decimation> and the food was mediocre in quality, but great in quantity << in the 90s it was the best thing for avg romanian chick, work the cruise ships. |
| 17:24 |
pete_dushenski |
i've met one or two romanian dudes working on cruises, ex-gynmast or w/e cum 'fitness trainers' |
| 17:25 |
mircea_popescu |
yup |
| 17:25 |
pete_dushenski |
they slayed hard. |
| 17:25 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: the one I was on was crewed mostly by filipinos. I think the different cruise lines 'specialize' in different 'third world' recruitment |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
i think so yea |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ud slay hard |
| 17:26 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slay | slay. to mercilessly fuck, bone and or screw a shady/skanky girl. 1) I would definately slay that chick! 2) I slayed the fuck out of that hoocker last night! 3) Slay that ... |
| 17:26 |
mircea_popescu |
hm. |
| 17:27 |
decimation |
at any rate, a shapely young lady could probably make decent money working the bar on a cruise ship |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
or anything else. |
| 17:27 |
decimation |
heh true |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
from what i hear, buncha old derps. |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
with money. |
| 17:27 |
pete_dushenski |
i sweat the young attractive men do better on those ships |
| 17:27 |
pete_dushenski |
swear* |
| 17:27 |
mircea_popescu |
outright prostitution is contentious, but then again this was pre viagra. couldn't get it up anyway. |
| 17:28 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski of course. women 3x, and they CAN get it up. |
| 17:28 |
pete_dushenski |
older husbands have long since lost interest, spend the day at port on the golf course. |
| 17:29 |
pete_dushenski |
young romanian fitness trainer or whatever is the perfect match. |
| 17:29 |
decimation |
pretty much the same model as the 'luxor centre for internet businessmen' |
| 17:30 |
mircea_popescu |
well no. romanians don't wanna marry, arabs don't wanna fuck. |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
"Id honestly thought that such derpage was dead and buried" |
| 17:32 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha WHAT! |
| 17:33 |
pete_dushenski |
what, i live a sheltered existence. |
| 17:33 |
pete_dushenski |
no reddit, little twitter. |
| 17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
dude... it'll be 2050, wot long in firm control, random nobody at the fringe of the world will STILL be starting webwallets / writing bitcoin hate pieces. |
| 17:33 |
pete_dushenski |
no one i talk to irl would dare be so derpy to my face. |
| 17:33 |
pete_dushenski |
so... |
| 17:33 |
mircea_popescu |
and it will still all be stolfi level. and they will STILL not know how fucking old the stolfi bs is. |
| 17:34 |
pete_dushenski |
eh, let me add my quarterly nail to the coffin wouldja ? |
| 17:34 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, the fact that it's changing from "o bitcoin will never succeed" to "o we missed the boat so unfair" is quite pleasant. |
| 17:35 |
pete_dushenski |
myea i'm enjoying the same. |
| 17:35 |
pete_dushenski |
this piece marked that transition to my eye. |
| 17:36 |
mircea_popescu |
is Nick Spanos the figurehead for the kenna scammer or am i confused ? |
| 17:37 |
pete_dushenski |
i wanna say they're unrelated |
| 17:37 |
pete_dushenski |
spanos is, afaik, an isolated entity. |
| 17:38 |
pete_dushenski |
he's known merely as "mr. i know everything there is to know about bitcoin" henceforth and forever more. |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
no, my bad. http://trilema.com/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/ |
| 17:38 |
assbot |
Children and their delusions. Today, Jared Kenna and Ryan Singer pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHH1UQ ) |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
it's ryan singer. |
| 17:38 |
pete_dushenski |
huh never heard of singer. |
| 17:38 |
mircea_popescu |
derps ran off with the tradehill customer funds, bought some office space. |
| 17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
I feel like a martyra Bitcoin martyr, he told me. Were bleeding out. |
| 17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
lolk. |
| 17:39 |
pete_dushenski |
ah the "btc fell on the ground" guys, right ? |
| 17:39 |
pete_dushenski |
at least that's what i associate with tradehill |
| 17:39 |
mircea_popescu |
where's that neobee schmuck |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
not the danny guy, the other one, the greek who was behind it all. |
| 17:40 |
pete_dushenski |
the one you killed ! |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski they claimed circle defrauded them, threatened to sue. never sued, disappeared. |
| 17:40 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski no no. there was this pic at some conference. the fall guy (denny idiot), the sucker (some local professor) and the actual scammer |
| 17:41 |
mircea_popescu |
a phtisic looking jailbird. |
| 17:42 |
pete_dushenski |
hm dunno |
| 17:42 |
pete_dushenski |
"Ex-marine Jered Kenna has to be one of the most perseverant entrepreneurs in bitcoin. After his exchange TradeHill fell apart not once but twice, he also lost bitcoin.com – the flagship domain for the digital currency." << perseverant and retarded. |
| 17:43 |
pete_dushenski |
like the seagull that keeps flying into the window of the skyscraper |
| 17:43 |
mircea_popescu |
it was never his. |
| 17:44 |
pete_dushenski |
wasn't it that argentinian guy's and he sold the domain to gox ? |
| 17:44 |
pete_dushenski |
or was that bitcoinS.com |
| 17:44 |
mircea_popescu |
dude impressive, that guy managed to get the pic supressed ? |
| 17:45 |
ben_vulpes |
hey does anyone have a link to a multisignature transaction in the main chain? |
| 17:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2013#407076 ahh sweet two years ago. |
| 17:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 05-12-2013 03:49:11; snackman: LOOOOL https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129544.msg1480792#msg1480792 |
| 17:51 |
pete_dushenski |
just found the business card for the bitcoins.com guy, rodolfo andragnes. he claimed to have sold the domain to mt gox in 2011 for $100k, half cash, half btc. |
| 17:51 |
pete_dushenski |
now, he's "founding member of fundacion bitcoin argentina" |
| 17:52 |
pete_dushenski |
he might've given away a few too many coins... |
| 17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
lol looking for it i stumbled on http://trilema.com/2013/like-a-baws/ |
| 17:57 |
assbot |
Like a baws pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KHKRxg ) |
| 17:57 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, i have the pic archived. |
| 17:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00033737 = 2.3279 BTC [-] |
| 18:00 |
jurov |
http://www.coindesk.com/why-bitcoin-regulation-lags-where-its-needed-most/ so they want *african* governments to start regulating bitcoin nao??? |
| 18:00 |
assbot |
Why Bitcoin Regulation Lags Where it's Needed Most ... ( http://bit.ly/1MiBZtb ) |
| 18:00 |
* |
jurov stares incredulously |
| 18:01 |
pete_dushenski |
equal outcomes for all ! |
| 18:01 |
pete_dushenski |
because reasons. |
| 18:01 |
pete_dushenski |
http://media.coindesk.com/2015/03/bitpesa.jpg << tho these doods look epically stoked. |
| 18:01 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1MiC93M ) |
| 18:01 |
jurov |
well... and papua tribes should start regulating it, too |
| 18:02 |
jurov |
that's remarkable pic |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov they're not racist, they just don't like that kinda people. |
| 18:05 |
mircea_popescu |
when niggers do it, it's suddenly obvious how unsufferable it is. |
| 18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
https://i.imgur.com/sPNsgpt.jpg << there we go. |
| 18:09 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1MiDlUU ) |
| 18:09 |
mircea_popescu |
grigorios papageorgios. |
| 18:11 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/neo-bee-andreas-antonopoulos-tuur-demeester-share-views/ << and the fall guy operation lol. |
| 18:11 |
assbot |
Neo & Bee: Andreas Antonopoulos and Tuur Demeester share their views - CryptoCoinsNews ... ( http://bit.ly/1MiDAzf ) |
| 18:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53950 @ 0.00032612 = 17.5942 BTC [-] {2} |
| 18:24 |
pete_dushenski |
;;bc,stats |
| 18:25 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 346774 | Current Difficulty: 4.74275549506483E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 348767 | Next Difficulty In: 1993 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 5 hours, 26 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 52773794424.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.27243 |
| 18:27 |
pete_dushenski |
;;nethash |
| 18:27 |
gribble |
343957129.799 |
| 18:28 |
Pierre_Rochard |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1046316 |
| 18:28 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-03-2015 21:08:57; scoopbot: New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/laile-ou-la-cuisse/ |
| 18:28 |
Pierre_Rochard |
On the subject of french movies, mircea_popescu & pete_dushenski have you seen jean reno’s les visisteurs? |
| 18:29 |
pete_dushenski |
have not.. |
| 18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
me either. |
| 18:30 |
mircea_popescu |
!up gabrielradio_ |
| 18:31 |
pete_dushenski |
so... #bitcoinwomensday is a thing. |
| 18:32 |
pete_dushenski |
because if we want things that don't make sense, they'll happen. |
| 18:33 |
mircea_popescu |
how is it "a thing" |
| 18:33 |
pete_dushenski |
to the extent that twitter trends are "a thing" |
| 18:34 |
pete_dushenski |
ya, not a thing as much as a ripple in the ocean, as it were |
| 18:34 |
Pierre_Rochard |
I highly recommend it, I don’t doubt you’ll find the bourgeoisie vs aristocracy commentary amusing, and christian clavier is hysterical |
| 18:35 |
mircea_popescu |
added. |
| 18:35 |
pete_dushenski |
same here ! |
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| 19:13 |
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Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" http://bitbet.us/bet/1122/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.93804235 BTC. Current weight: 68,475. |
| 19:20 |
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Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" http://bitbet.us/bet/1120/ Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 18(Y):82(N) by weight. Total bet: 91.8305122 BTC. Current weight: 66,736. |
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| 19:48 |
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Bet placed: 1.38456474 BTC for No on "BTC to top $450 before 31st Mar" http://bitbet.us/bet/1113/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.52156676 BTC. Current weight: 23,703. |
| 19:59 |
asciilifeform |
other than totally hermitise myself << ahahaha, works for me |
| 19:59 |
asciilifeform |
a guy had to have relatiuons with mechanics << i do (and my whole family). fella's from argentina, incidentally. |
| 20:00 |
asciilifeform |
cruise ships << i am still at an utter loss what the appeal of cruise ship is |
| 20:01 |
PeterL |
mircea_popescu:pete_dushenski they claimed circle defrauded them, threatened to sue. never sued, disappeared. << was Dwolla, I don't think Circle was a thing yet then, but same idea |
| 20:01 |
asciilifeform |
changing from "o bitcoin will never succeed" to "o we missed the boat so unfair" << there was plenty of the latter even a year or two ago |
| 20:02 |
PeterL |
there was some "it was so unfair for the first adopters" when bitcoin hit 32 back in '11 |
| |
~ 16 minutes ~ |
| 20:19 |
asciilifeform |
http://staff.salisbury.edu/~rafantini/grid_1550_and_1530.htm << for archaeologists/aficionados. BingoBoingo? |
| 20:19 |
assbot |
Grid 1550 and 1530 ... ( http://bit.ly/1E4kKdb ) |
| 20:23 |
asciilifeform |
^ much interesting historical curio on the site |
| 20:27 |
punkman |
wtf is bubble memory |
| 20:27 |
asciilifeform |
punkman: obsolete but - long ago - extremely hyped solid-state storage device |
| 20:27 |
asciilifeform |
worth reading about, interesting from engineering perspective |
| 20:28 |
punkman |
fun "a thin film of a magnetic material to hold small magnetized areas, known as bubbles or domains, each storing one bit of data." |
| 20:34 |
asciilifeform |
they pound out the frame using hammer press machines... I asked 'why don't you just use a cnc mill to shape the parts' << try to picture what the cost of -milling- a smooth object the size of a wing might be. |
| 20:38 |
asciilifeform |
(summary for n00bs: milling, in general, is ruinously expensive, and anything with considerable quantities of milled parts - even small ones - reflects this. e.g., high-quality small arms, racing engines, etc.) |
| 20:42 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah that was kinda the answer I was expecting to get |
| 20:42 |
decimation |
but the 'docent' guy wasn't terribly familiar with the issues I gather |
| 20:43 |
decimation |
a skilled machinist's time isn't cheap either though |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
| 21:02 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: re: cruise ship < well, there's a reason they say it's for the 'newlywed and nearly dead' |
| 21:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51350 @ 0.00032904 = 16.8962 BTC [-] {2} |
| 21:11 |
ben_vulpes |
what is the correct data representation for the amount of bitcoin in a transactino? |
| 21:11 |
ben_vulpes |
transaction* |
| 21:13 |
ben_vulpes |
double? |
| 21:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00032964 = 6.2467 BTC [+] {2} |
| 21:25 |
mod6 |
int64 |
| 21:25 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell peterl right you are. |
| 21:25 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 21:25 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform was plenty of the latter even a year or two ago << yeah, but "preponderence of derpitude" standard. |
| 21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes INTEGER noob |
| 21:28 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, romanian classroom : http://33.media.tumblr.com/9063eb4bfa1651c5642d441a38052f26/tumblr_n0oow5Osap1rvs8tno1_400.gif |
| 21:28 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1A9yYpq ) |
| 21:31 |
thestringpuller |
http://i.imgur.com/BTatL71.jpg << this is good |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 21:34 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: I wish I had gone to school in Romania. |
| 21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
wish instead that your wiminz weren't retarded. |
| 21:35 |
mircea_popescu |
i guess voice vs exit works here too huh. |
| 21:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00032537 = 10.7372 BTC [-] {2} |
| 21:41 |
danielpbarron |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-03-2015#1046237 << http://faculty.washington.edu/smcohen/320/theseus.html |
| 21:41 |
assbot |
Logged on 08-03-2015 20:27:50; decimation: at some point, are you just driving a replica? |
| 21:41 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1A9A6cK ) |
| 21:41 |
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Bet created: "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ |
| 21:50 |
cazalla |
https://twitter.com/thereaxxion/status/574745846748704768/photo/1 lulz |
| 21:50 |
assbot |
Feels like something is missing from this picture... http://t.co/qi4D8QXfYr |
| 21:52 |
|
Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 94(Y):6(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,992. |
| 21:57 |
decimation |
danielpbarron: aye, one cannot step into the same waters twice, even if one pays dearly to try |
| |
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| 22:13 |
|
Bet placed: 7 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 8.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,976. |
| 22:16 |
decimation |
lulz > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/06/us/in-ferguson-some-who-are-part-of-problem-are-asked-to-be-part-of-solution.html < "The emails uncovered by the Justice Department included a cartoon portraying President Obama as a chimpanzee and a joke about giving a black woman a crime-prevention award for having an abortion.They were circulated widely, Justice Department officials said, and no discipline has been announced for those who |
| 22:16 |
assbot |
Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1BXrkmE ) |
| 22:16 |
decimation |
received the emails and said nothing." |
| 22:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00032979 = 1.8798 BTC [+] |
| 22:19 |
punkman |
s |
| 22:19 |
thestringpuller |
that paywall |
| 22:33 |
decimation |
thestringpuller: sorry, apparently I haven't used up my allotment yet :( |
| 22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
<assbot> Feels like something is missing from this picture <<< someone giving a shit ? |
| 22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
museum of abandoned booths |
| 22:34 |
mircea_popescu |
"no discipline has been announced for those who received the emails and said nothing." <<< lol wait, wut ? da usg stoolie programme ? |
| 22:35 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: hehe yeah |
| 22:35 |
decimation |
maybe one day you too will receive a random ass email and 'say nothing' |
| 22:35 |
mircea_popescu |
used to be a time when that'd have been the absolute last thing one'd consider doing. |
| 22:36 |
mircea_popescu |
that also happened to be during the brief interval when the us was worth more than something stuck on someone's boot. |
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| 23:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21364 @ 0.00033408 = 7.1373 BTC [+] {2} |
| 23:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00032588 = 7.6908 BTC [-] {3} |
| 23:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14036 @ 0.00033498 = 4.7018 BTC [+] {2} |
| 23:26 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: re: chromium > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Chrome-OS-Freon-Graphics < the other shoe dropped |
| 23:26 |
assbot |
Chrome OS Switches To "Freon" Graphics Stack To Replace X11 - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1C14NHk ) |
| 23:27 |
ben_vulpes |
jesus fuck x11 as well!? |
| 23:27 |
decimation |
apparently google wants to get rid of x11 totally and replace it with their own graphics layer |
| |
↖ |
| 23:27 |
ben_vulpes |
but my .Xresources |
| 23:27 |
ben_vulpes |
i just learned how it works |
| 23:27 |
ben_vulpes |
sort of |
| 23:27 |
decimation |
that's probably why they threw a shitfit over the kernel api |
| 23:35 |
|
Bet placed: 1.0055 BTC for Yes on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" http://bitbet.us/bet/1128/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.1055 BTC. Current weight: 99,916. |
| 23:36 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00033712 = 10.6193 BTC [+] {2} |
| 23:36 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: l0l!!! |
| 23:37 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: 'chrome' writing straight to kernelspace |
| 23:37 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah that's pretty much it |
| 23:37 |
decimation |
don't need yer stinking middleware |
| 23:37 |
decimation |
I wonder if they have an issue with the MIT license |
| 23:37 |
asciilifeform |
plus, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2015#1034779 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2015#1034780 |
| 23:37 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-02-2015 21:09:34; asciilifeform: PeterL: most 'alternatives for x11' dispense with the everything-can-be-piped-over-tcp |
| 23:37 |
assbot |
Logged on 26-02-2015 21:09:47; asciilifeform: in favour of either nothing or winblows-style whole-display 'remote desktop' bullshit |
| 23:38 |
asciilifeform |
expect this turdalicious horror to spread to the rest of 'linux world' |
| 23:38 |
decimation |
indeed. it's like 'pulseaudio' for your graphics card |
| 23:39 |
decimation |
I don't blame the folks at google for trying to improve specific hardware products |
| 23:39 |
decimation |
I fault all those in the future (outside google) who are going to mindlessly adopt |
| 23:42 |
ben_vulpes |
what, though, should i be doing instead? |
| 23:43 |
decimation |
ben_vulpes: what's wrong with X11? |
| 23:50 |
ben_vulpes |
instead of doing whatever's imposed upon me by the world, i mean. |
| 23:50 |
ben_vulpes |
i won't do it mindlessly, and i won't go quietly into that dark night. |
| 23:50 |
ben_vulpes |
but i'm pretty sure with the state of modern consumer'pute' |
| 23:50 |
ben_vulpes |
i don't have much choice in the long run. |
| 23:53 |
assbot |
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| 23:53 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: there is always choice. |