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00:56 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-20#1525883 << two years ago exactly!
00:56 a111 Logged on 2016-08-20 14:38 mircea_popescu: here's a nice eulora knapsack problem for anyone looking to sharpen their ACTUAL computer science skills :
~ 25 minutes ~
01:21 mircea_popescu meanwhile in orcistans, https://www.nairaland.com/3786010/see-nigerian-states-most-beautiful/1
01:33 Mocky oh hey, i didn't have the context for that knapsack challenge when I read it in the logs, had no idea what it meant. meanwhile forgot all about it
01:36 mircea_popescu lol. kinda how it goes.
01:48 Mocky http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-20#1525884 ftr my algo does it in 40 steps preserving full value of 1,639,142: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bvsMD/?raw=true
01:48 a111 Logged on 2016-08-20 14:39 mircea_popescu: i have eight sets of "sb" (solid branch) : 503 q 222 ; 1466 q 3 ; 973 q 207 ; 983 q 252 ; 1651 q 258 ; 2963 q 189 ; 563 q 22 and 336 q 225. the first number is the count, the second the quality (depends on your mining, whatever) ; you can mix these, the game will floor the average quality. this means you can lose matter through mixing, so you want to mix stacks so as to obtain the highest possible quality final.
01:53 mircea_popescu Mocky sounds right.
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10:04 asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/z4wAl/?raw=true << meanwhile, in heathendom.
10:06 asciilifeform ^ tldr, mexican d00d ran small btc-fiatola house; dragged into usa for gassing.
10:20 mircea_popescu sucks to be a zek, huh.
10:21 mircea_popescu anyway, dood didn't get dragged anywhere, he kept crossing teh border.
10:22 mircea_popescu i guess they're getting pretty desperate, if they're throwing randos in jail in lieu of making good on their usg.bitfinex takeover obligations.
10:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: fwiw they always Officially print 'when crossing the border' (recall the ru d00d kidnapped 'in spain' etc.) it's the new 'shot while escape'.
10:23 mircea_popescu simple heuristic : what starts as a scam moves on to http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ "agenture" and then finally on to the inca resting place.
10:23 mircea_popescu it's the cycle of ourdemocracy scamolade.
10:24 asciilifeform i'm not convinced that the mexican was zek ( well, until picked up and enzekked )
10:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that may be, but what of 11 In furtherance of this conspiracy and to effect the objects thereof, the following overt acts, among others, were committed: 1. On or about February 8, 2017, at approximately 12:10 a.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 500 in U.S. currency. 2. On or about February 8, 2017, at approximately 10:29 p.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CA
10:25 mircea_popescu MPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 580 in U.S. currency. 3 . On ,or about February 9, 2017, at approximately 8: 17 p. m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 746 in U.S. currency. 4. On or about February 10, 2017, at approximately 11:52 p.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in
10:25 mircea_popescu 24 possession of $9, 580 in U.S. currency. ?
10:25 mircea_popescu specifically, how do they know ~the dollar amount~ ?
10:25 mircea_popescu here's a possible theory : this dood went over the border twice to who knows, five times a day for months and fucking months, and they counted his money in front of him every time
10:25 mircea_popescu eventually had enough of counting.
10:26 asciilifeform where's the difficulty in producing an arbitrary 'mr chump went into usa with bag of $ x' for any desired value of x
10:26 mircea_popescu so you think that's not factual ?
10:26 asciilifeform aha
10:26 mircea_popescu and they falsified the records, or do the records not even exist ?
10:27 asciilifeform fwiw i read usg indictments as works of fiction, not particularly different from e.g. trial of lavrentiy pavlovich beria, 'british, french, and japanese spy'
10:27 mircea_popescu the only question is, why isn;'t mr campos here saying this ?
10:27 asciilifeform they may have occasional droplet of fact, or may not
10:28 mircea_popescu i only read usg productions as literary fiction when it involves standing members ; otherwise it's liars playing liar. why would i trust CAMPOS more than the system he and his friends created ? or less, for that matter.
10:28 mircea_popescu there's no such thing as "the innocent zek". inca exists because the zeks exist.
10:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: perhaps he dun have a tcp pipe in the cokemachine chair.
10:28 mircea_popescu or perhaps he's exactly a shitheel.
10:28 asciilifeform impossible to say, from my telescope.
10:29 mircea_popescu not so impossible, from mine -- if CAMPOS were worth the cost of a decent burial, !!key CAMPOS would work.
10:29 asciilifeform i'll buy a 'he oughta have appeared here ~before~ strapped in the chair'.
10:29 mircea_popescu nulla salus extra republica.
10:31 mircea_popescu http://archive.is/Nw7P3 << check it out, argentine retards squatting the words.
10:31 asciilifeform lol!
10:34 asciilifeform in other heathen lulz, https://archive.is/yUvwS << 2017-style shitfork , rebranded as a kind of faux-trb, 'Satoshi Vision' of... 'block size to 128 MB'
10:35 asciilifeform complete with '5 C++ developers with over 95 collective years of development experience' etc.
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12:49 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-22#1843560 << possibly i'm thick, but i read mircea_popescu's puzzle statement and dun grasp how this is possible, for the value to be conserved, if every mix operation rounds down to nearest whole
12:49 a111 Logged on 2018-08-22 05:48 Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-20#1525884 ftr my algo does it in 40 steps preserving full value of 1,639,142: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/bvsMD/?raw=true
12:53 asciilifeform oh hm nm i get it
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13:59 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/08/microsoft-announces-campaign-against-threats-to-their-democracy/ << Qntra - Microsoft Announces Campaign Against Threats To Their Democracy
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14:31 BingoBoingo So there is a local holiday called "Dia de nostalgia" where the locals listen to old pop music. The Peruana is rather insistent that the holiday is today. Thusly she took me for a walk, is cooking soup, and is cleaning Casa Boingo. I am under the impression the holiday is later this week, as the busdrivers and kiosk operators appear to be as well.
14:32 BingoBoingo But I am getting soup and a free sweep out of the deal.
14:37 mod6 Hard to complain about that :D
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16:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-22#1843595 << it seems that nguyen nobody's been trying to attention whore around the matter for years.
16:29 a111 Logged on 2018-08-22 14:34 asciilifeform: in other heathen lulz, https://archive.is/yUvwS << 2017-style shitfork , rebranded as a kind of faux-trb, 'Satoshi Vision' of... 'block size to 128 MB'
16:30 mircea_popescu can't imagine who'd give an inkling of a shit, besides the republic's incredibly advanced entomology dept.
16:37 asciilifeform i dun recall the name popping up prior
16:37 asciilifeform but possibly i'm not sufficiently dedicated entomologist
16:39 asciilifeform ( on top of this, quite possibly there are moar nguyens in vietnam than popescus in ro )
16:40 mircea_popescu in a very abstract sense.
16:41 asciilifeform howsthat?
16:41 mircea_popescu cuz they seem the same one.
16:43 asciilifeform the peasant ivanovs in ru, popescus left in ro, smiths in england -- not same ?
16:45 mircea_popescu same.
16:48 asciilifeform the closer to the http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute period , the moar acute this problem, i suspect, and so when we will have seen 10 shitcoin scammers from the humid shitholistans, 7 will have been nguyen.
16:49 asciilifeform '...there exists exactly one Nicola in the entire villagevi, and the only smaller kid at the age of rumspringa is Daniel, so you've got them...' etc
16:51 mircea_popescu possibru!
16:51 asciilifeform at a certain point, the entomologists who still insists on distinguishing individual specimens will be stuck trying to catch'em and put numbered collars on, like on giraffes in africa, or how else to distinguish the indistinguishable..
16:53 mircea_popescu mark of teh beast!!1
16:54 asciilifeform i always liked that legend. tho i suspect that i read it somewhat differently from the ameri-christians.
16:55 asciilifeform 'and in the shit future, the biomass will become so nguyen that will have to be branded with hot irons on forehead'
16:56 * trinque heard a tard say exactly "mark of the beast would be so convenient; I wouldn't have to worry about losing my credit card" just the other day
16:56 asciilifeform lol!!
16:56 trinque the derps long for the goo tube
16:57 asciilifeform 'just want'
17:02 asciilifeform trinque: witness just how much of the homo redditus psychopathologies cluster really reduces to doomed , head-against-wall attempts at becoming individuable
17:02 trinque makes one think that there's perhaps an earlier fixation than "anal", coming from the first inconvenience, the shhhlonk out of mother and into the hard light
17:03 trinque asciilifeform: "mother knew me, and only me" or whatever
17:03 asciilifeform if they stuck to the ~60-strong village -- could even scratch that itch. but as it is nao, no dice.
17:07 mircea_popescu well, there's subreddits...
17:07 asciilifeform lol
17:07 asciilifeform 'hey, you read /r/nguyen!' 'mee tooo!'
17:08 mircea_popescu seems there's the two strategies - either a very low bar of individuation, as employed on 4chan's "anon" bla bla -- they're not anonymous, it's just the identity attaqinable is very simple
17:08 mircea_popescu or else the very narrow groupuscle thing, like moronskutsy what's his name, making "challenges" for his troop of five people AND THEM ONLY.
17:10 asciilifeform i suspect the latter is simply adult-neotenous variant of that pasttime of just about erry intelligent little boy, to take group of playmates and 'put them in regiment', march'em around with wooden muskets
17:12 asciilifeform it's healthy in 5yo kid ( imho, and possibly asciilifeform is not unbiased, he did it... ) but there are folx who dun grow anything on top of it..
17:12 mircea_popescu very important that the group be small though, and stay small. must regard aliens suspiciously.
17:12 mircea_popescu really, it's the core of peasant culture.
17:13 mircea_popescu ontogenesis repeats philogenesis or how it went.
17:14 asciilifeform verily.
17:15 mircea_popescu anyway, but while discussing "new man" psychopathologies --- consider the dood who stole a plane to do barrel rolls on the basis of his video game experience.
17:16 asciilifeform i can think of many less entertaining methods of cashing in one's chips
17:16 mircea_popescu they call it "terrorism" and whatever, but all i can see is wediditredditardism. dood doesn't even conceptualize property in any sense above diego rivera's "it's the people's wall!".
17:16 mircea_popescu kid was bored at work, who may tell him he's not allowed ~the use~ of ~reddit's airplane~ to ~do some cool shit~ for a break ?
17:17 mircea_popescu it's how they do it! it's how it's done! wut do these old ppl want even!
17:17 asciilifeform dunno, erry week the local cops here pick up a car thief, who took for joyride, i dun think it is because 'did not understand property'
17:17 mircea_popescu the elements a) he was there ; and b) was bored and c) item was also there and so d) he did something with it. monkey implemented in human genome, what.
17:17 mircea_popescu simpler.
17:18 asciilifeform problem is that this describes errybody from kurchatov to pickpocket. pretty much all human activity, really.
17:18 asciilifeform certainly ~all constructive activity.
17:18 mircea_popescu how are the kids who "could do anything" and whose "education" cost literal millions [in bezzlars, but what else is there ?!?!] conceptualize that "no, fuckfaced, you're NOT GOOD ENOUGH for this usage of this item" ?
17:19 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yet kurchatov generally understands that my women are off limits for his inferior limpdick.
17:19 asciilifeform lol, feynman didn't
17:19 mircea_popescu tell me this -- ever wondered why premature ejaculation is metastable in the population ?
17:19 mircea_popescu it should be selected against, and then disappear, right ?
17:19 asciilifeform ( perhaps stretching the analogy, but possibly makes sense ? )
17:20 mircea_popescu except -- there's two mating strategies. there's the beta strategy where it tries to stick it in her while her back is turned ot the side and the owner is distracted. that'd better be quick.
17:20 mircea_popescu premature ejaculation is meta-stable because it is actually the key tool to the mating strategy of the beta.
17:20 asciilifeform hm the 'knights and knaves' trilema or where was it
17:20 mircea_popescu if you read the "social media", 100% the approach of the dweebs would be "i won't take up much of your time, anything"
17:21 mircea_popescu there's the man, who tells the woman, "it'll hurt" and then there's the boy, who tells the girl... "it won't hurt"
17:21 asciilifeform 'sir can you spare a dime' -- erry beggar who ever lived . neh
17:21 mircea_popescu quite. but begging for "just turn your ass this way while talking to him" is ye oldest beggary.
17:22 asciilifeform upstack, i dun buy 'thief doesn't understand property'. chingishan understood property. just unzipped and pissed.
17:22 mircea_popescu i disagree.
17:22 asciilifeform not erry pickpocket, naturally, rises to leading golden horde. but basic principle same.
17:25 asciilifeform the man who pulls a great heist, is pissing on his assigned cattle stall and makes break for it. normally gets nowhere, but this is orthogonal.
17:25 mircea_popescu meanwhile in random http://btcbase.org/log/2015-01-21#985204 lulz, "I find it hard to believe that I could sit next to you on the bus let alone serve you".
17:25 a111 Logged on 2015-01-21 01:37 mircea_popescu: very common problem people have on the internet, the "everyone is as stupid as me / everyone's a goat the same gender and age as me" issue.
17:25 mircea_popescu fancy that wonder, we were going to take the bus. what, not everyone does ?!?!?!?!
17:25 mircea_popescu i wonder how such invalidates one's opinions on things and matters...\
17:27 asciilifeform in some places ( e.g. east usa ) it is rare to see a fella who owns >1 shirt, on a bus
17:28 mircea_popescu i expect most of the 20something crowd is socialized in the fenceless suburbia and lulzy-ass campus.
17:28 asciilifeform if mircea_popescu were to go on the bus here, he will likely be the only white face on board
17:28 mircea_popescu so they have odd, to put it mildly, ideas. about personal space, about power and control, about proper behaviour, etcetera.
17:30 asciilifeform i can't resist to ask, if mircea_popescu will say, what he was doing on the bus. what, all 63 porches were in the shop ?
17:30 mircea_popescu it was entirely her metaphore.
17:30 asciilifeform aa
17:30 mircea_popescu i expect she does a lot of bussing.\
17:30 asciilifeform aaa!
17:30 asciilifeform i misread.
17:31 mircea_popescu most of the bussing i ever did was via greyhound trip in mid 2000s, and deliberately for to meet various such people as use the bus in the us.
17:31 mircea_popescu otherwise... i didn't even go by bus as a jr high kid, wtf is this.
17:31 asciilifeform also great for deepcover aha
17:32 mircea_popescu and for keeping one's insanity in check, and for many things.
17:32 asciilifeform 'the man who kills you comes on bus, not on parachute' or how did it go.
17:33 mircea_popescu permits one to comment, upon that scene in film "road trip", that "no black mamie ever gave a white chick looking like amy smart a vibrator for free. EVER."
17:38 asciilifeform upstack re 'steal a boeing', recall the http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-07#821351 fella ?
17:38 a111 Logged on 2014-09-07 04:09 asciilifeform: (who? him: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/navy-nuclear-submarine-burned-arsonist-scrapped-article-1.1421356)
17:38 mircea_popescu ya ?
17:39 asciilifeform imho he did god's work.
17:39 asciilifeform whether politically 'aware' or not.
17:39 asciilifeform the janitor with a pail of petrol, is a t-cell, killing off inca cancer, whether knows it or not.
17:40 asciilifeform erry d00d who , instead of retreating into 'world of warcraft' and drink, goes out with a bang, is a nail in the inca coffin.
17:41 asciilifeform recall solzhenitsin and his 'if erry zak took an axe to nkvd head' lemma.
17:43 asciilifeform the moar militantly retarded inca reich becomes , the moar tcells will produce.
17:44 asciilifeform there were at least 2 sov mechanics who climbed into migs and took off.
17:44 mircea_popescu this seems correct to me.
17:44 asciilifeform ( 1980s. wasn't publicized until after the final curtain call, unsurprisingly. )
17:46 asciilifeform or take the sargeant who stole two makarovs and narrowly missed brezhnev's head. etc
17:47 asciilifeform ( interesting case, btw, they decided that shooting's too easy for him, put in 'psihushka', reportedly still alive today, as vegetable )
17:51 asciilifeform https://archive.is/p4rx << subj in eng
17:51 asciilifeform 'Andropov: Why did you decide that you are a judge and can decide with a gun in your hands? Ilyin: Because a person should live not exist.'
17:52 mircea_popescu hey, not bad.
18:00 BingoBoingo Inca should have ate less un popped popcorn if it doesn't want to feel the turdbumps
18:00 asciilifeform as for 'property', from my pov the janitor was no more or less 'proprietor' of the boeing, than the recipient of printing press largesse who paper-'owned' it.
18:00 asciilifeform 'ownership is power to destroy' or how it went.
18:02 asciilifeform as i understand, the morons didn't even have the simple lock on the ignition that a toyota has.
18:02 mircea_popescu dude was literally just borrowing his roomate's colander
18:02 mircea_popescu and he dun see why that asshole has to make such a big deal out of it
18:02 mircea_popescu not like his parents didn't give it to him for free. or the dean did. or htat weird old guy. or someone anyway.
18:02 mircea_popescu notrealpeople. it just comes.
18:03 asciilifeform and not like the other fella's usg.parents didn't give him the airline for free.
18:03 mircea_popescu something like that. "it's ours by right of living here". like the bedsheets in the campus dorm.
18:03 mircea_popescu very mirvniki worldview, "land belongs to the cow"
18:04 asciilifeform it isn't as if the 'legit owner' is somehow not cow.
18:04 mircea_popescu https://duckduckgo.com/?q="mirvniki" << 100% tmsr references roflmao.
18:04 asciilifeform in 1900 perhaps was not.
18:04 asciilifeform today -- cow.
18:05 asciilifeform somehow when yellen toggles the printer and steals 9000 boeings , 'not stealing', somehow.
18:05 asciilifeform but janitor -- stole
18:06 mircea_popescu would you prefer "misuse" ?
18:06 asciilifeform https://duckduckgo.com/?q="miroyed" interestingly >0
18:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'ma go with the trad 'liberate' !11
18:07 mircea_popescu aok
18:07 mircea_popescu except you can't liberate anything if !!key you doesn't work
18:07 BingoBoingo Boeing like schoolbus lacks a natural use. Might as well repurpose either as cabin in alaskan woods.
18:08 asciilifeform i expect at some point their !!key will work
18:09 asciilifeform tho the mechanics of the biology, i suspect, work against it, when d00d 'goes t-cell' he closes in, in rightful mistrust of stoolies and 'helping hands'
18:10 asciilifeform ( on rare occasions, the dylan finds a klebold, and they go bang as a duet, but this is uncommon )
18:12 asciilifeform i recall a husband-and-wife set, Officially 'islamic' flavoured, coupla yrs ago
18:13 asciilifeform (afaik the only such case on Official record)
18:13 mircea_popescu the official record isn't comprehensive for obvious reasons.
18:13 asciilifeform recall, the ones where usg confiscated their life insurance post-facto
18:13 asciilifeform noshit
18:14 BingoBoingo Can't forget the organized retailiation strike in Oklahoma City to avenge Waco and Ruby Ridge
18:15 BingoBoingo Back when people talked about the other pants clinton
18:15 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: that particular escapade had smell of provocateurs (who got 'more than bargained for') all over it tho
18:15 asciilifeform d00d was to set off a theatric 'bomb', per the script, but showed up with working one
18:15 asciilifeform 'new york deathray gone wrong', if you will
18:17 BingoBoingo Well, fuel oil and the right fertilizer, and if you search Mcveigh in wikipedo it goes to a disambiguation page listing 2 seperate timothy mcveighs born in the 1960s
18:17 asciilifeform usg however did get what it wanted, yes minus one kindergarten , but plus metaldetectors and anal searches errywhere
18:17 asciilifeform ( along with 'mandatory reporting' at erry hardware store re 'suspicious' buyers )
18:19 asciilifeform and they immediately built 'forbidden city', ming china style, around white house etc.
18:20 mircea_popescu worked so well for the ming, too...
18:20 asciilifeform ( 'only a terrorist'(tm) could think to ask, why hero did not drive his truck to white house )
18:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: street around whitehouse is hilarious themepark of lulz, 3 polizei and 1 german shepherd for erry tourist
18:21 asciilifeform somehow doesn't keep a hobo from climbing fence and busting in erry year or so, but 'hatefact'.
18:22 mircea_popescu always the same one ?
18:22 asciilifeform fuckifiknow
18:22 mircea_popescu would be lulzy.
18:22 asciilifeform that street has very unpleasant atmosphere, i avoid it on the rare occasions when going into town
18:23 asciilifeform mountains of rubbish, there , also, the guards aint paid to pick it up
18:23 mircea_popescu heh
18:23 mircea_popescu just patrol through it, right.
18:23 asciilifeform aha
18:24 mircea_popescu reminds me of the shitting-down-nuke-tube thing
18:24 asciilifeform speaking of which, there was a 'designated' hobo who for 30 yrs sat on the pavement there, unmolested, with picket signs 'end nuke reich' or to that effect
18:24 asciilifeform he finally keeled over coupla yr ago
18:25 asciilifeform they took and burned his tent and pickets, and arrested the imitators who tried to make new one
18:27 * asciilifeform bbl,teatime
18:30 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> mountains of rubbish, there , also, the guards aint paid to pick it up << There are crews going around painting bouys assigned to land duty, I suspect preparations for summer are beginning
18:45 lobbes psa: looks like my box that houses the archive-o-matic went offline on Friday. It back up and eating through backlog; www should update sometime in the next ~ 2 hours >> http://lobbesblog.com/queryarchive/view_domains.php
18:45 lobbes *It is
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19:03 mircea_popescu meanwhile in useful consumer items, http://www.koalaswim.com/Male-Display-Suits_c_26.html
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19:57 asciilifeform in similar lulz, 'libXcursor could write one byte out of bounds when processing Xcursor theme files. In certain cases, such as when used in the Firefox web browser, this could be used as part of an exploit chain to allow further attacks on an X client process...'
20:08 mircea_popescu awww/
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22:41 deedbot http://trilema.com/2018/the-leak/ << Trilema - The leak...
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