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00:09 mod6 how do i figure out the rate?
00:10 mod6 i will cancel the outstanding invoices, and send back trinque's money. and re-invoice everyone at the correct rate.
00:10 mircea_popescu if you buy 1.1 drinks for 9 dollars the drink rate is 9/1.1 not 9 yes ?
00:10 mircea_popescu if youi buy a tank of gas for 50 bux gas isn't now 50bux a GALON, it's 50 bux a tank.
00:11 mod6 !Qcalc 8200/1.1
00:11 lobbesbot mod6: 7454.54545455
00:11 mod6 this ^
00:11 mod6 ?
00:12 mircea_popescu seems so. you don't see it ?
00:13 * mircea_popescu pulls the actual data
00:13 mod6 seems to make sense, anyway.
00:13 mircea_popescu nfi why this is so anti-intuitive lol
00:13 mircea_popescu AUCTION # 338 has ENDED: 8.2k wFF q0 SOLD to mod6 for 1.1bn coppers. Attn: mircea_popescu
00:13 mod6 i think there was a lot of mental gymnastics I had to do.
00:13 mircea_popescu there you go, yeah.
00:13 mod6 confused myself.
00:14 mod6 alright, will re-do.
00:16 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-04#1839230 << Sorry all, I screwed this up. Will cancel all invoices, and re-price & re-do. Anyone who paid, will be refunded the exact amount, and reinvoiced at the correct amount.
00:16 a111 Logged on 2018-08-04 00:11 mod6: Attn Pizarro Customers: The auction was settled at $8200.00, and will be used as the price point for August invoices.
00:17 mod6 *sigh*
00:17 mod6 !!sent-invocies
00:18 mod6 !!sent-invoices
00:18 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/L24gu/?raw=true
00:21 mod6 !!cancel-invoice mircea_popescu 3
00:21 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/VRcra/?raw=true
00:21 mod6 !!cancel-invoice jurov 3
00:21 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dCK2W/?raw=true
00:21 mod6 !!pay trinque 0.02028048
00:21 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5jWhT/?raw=true
00:30 mod6 !!v F9B6E58EC6C6D82F22D1D81EAC8CC603B30A941E6FFA6A12A4D48845F120E27E
00:30 deedbot mod6 canceled mircea_popescu invoice 3
00:30 mod6 !!v 89A1ED6A3F48C1CAEE02EE4F65A0BC3FD09F381B3D030C60CD118662FCF391B8
00:30 deedbot mod6 canceled jurov invoice 3
00:31 mod6 !!v 49444AD95AE10A40C8C274D2730499414909FC8998FDDAB306E6B04343BE58AE
00:31 deedbot mod6 paid trinque 0.02028048
00:32 mod6 shit, I didn't even need to cancel the one for S.MG.
00:32 mod6 grrrr
00:32 mod6 !!invoice mircea_popescu 0.057806595 August 2018 invoice for UY3
00:33 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/FE4NX/?raw=true
00:33 mircea_popescu did i just talk myself into a 10% bill increase ? :D
00:33 mod6 !!Qcalc (75+75+75)/7454.54
00:34 mod6 smh
00:34 mod6 !Qcalc (75+75+75)/7454.54
00:34 lobbesbot mod6: 0.0301829489144
00:34 mod6 BingoBoingo: Quarterly ^
00:34 mod6 (for rockchip)
00:34 mod6 !Qcalc 100/7454.54
00:34 lobbesbot mod6: 0.0134146439619
00:34 mod6 BingoBoingo: Monthly ^ for rockchip
00:35 mod6 !Qcalc 141.70/7454.54
00:35 lobbesbot mod6: 0.0190085504941
00:36 mod6 !!invoice jurov August 0.01900855 August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro
00:36 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/1YC8y/?raw=true
00:36 mod6 lol
00:36 * mod6 drops head
00:37 mod6 !!invoice jurov 0.01900855 August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro
00:37 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Cvcr9/?raw=true
00:38 mod6 !Qcalc (141.70/7454.54)+0.003
00:38 lobbesbot mod6: 0.0220085504941
00:39 mod6 !!invoice trinque 0.02200855 August Invoice for colocation service and shared shell at pizarro
00:39 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZmomO/?raw=true
00:46 mod6 !!v 219DA25EE262A213C10A08827D05B276CD994D309FF1DC98178FB1EA80B8EC0C
00:46 deedbot Invoiced mircea_popescu 0.057806595 << August 2018 invoice for UY3
00:46 mod6 !!v FA8D85ADF1942C3ECF43C9FC1D7272AA88A0E50160C8451BC865F1BD46A8BE01
00:46 deedbot Invoiced jurov 0.01900855 << August Invoice for The Bitcoin Foundation's colo service. #foundation #pizarro
00:47 mod6 !!v 686B8C99989197732D824C678EB37FEFE65F4D2B01A2259F85E38DE86FFD27EE
00:47 deedbot Invoiced trinque 0.02200855 << August Invoice for colocation service and shared shell at pizarro
00:48 mod6 Alright, now everything should be straight.
00:48 mod6 All: The price point for August is now set at $7454.54.
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09:10 mircea_popescu in other lulz,
09:10 mircea_popescu * Now talking on #freenode
09:10 mircea_popescu * Topic for #freenode is: We know about the spam. Please see https://freenode.net/news/spambot-attack for a detailed statement. | User mode +R blocks PMs from unregistered users. Activate it with: /mode <YourNick> +R | Welcome to #freenode |
09:11 mircea_popescu "christel on 2018-07-27 Many of you will have noticed that over the last few days there has been an extensive spambot wave on freenode, and on other networks." after which one loses interest in reading further, seeing how only a moron would use that lede.
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09:39 asciilifeform via mircea_popescu's link >> https://freenode.net/news/freenode-live-keynotes << holy fuq, the barfology
09:40 mircea_popescu in which spirit, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/pwpgR/?raw=true being the fecal consistency of #freenode the past half hour. >2k users, 0 useful product.
09:42 asciilifeform lol kilometre of joinpartola
09:44 mircea_popescu kinda made the point to me, that probably we're the only ones to even notice ; the cattle live in their barn on their cattle diet, shit's unremarkable to them.
09:44 mircea_popescu anyway, gave it half hour, seems enough.
09:45 mircea_popescu this shit though, where "feelings" became acceptable topics of conversation in public, has gotta fucking cease.
09:45 mircea_popescu harem girls have harem conversations IN THE FUCKING HAREM. ima talk to the master of the house, not to the chatterchorus.
09:45 asciilifeform 'we have pheeelings! and will tell mother!'
09:45 mircea_popescu im not their fucking mother.
09:46 asciilifeform it's a prayer to the inca, wat. typical homo redditus fare.
09:49 asciilifeform usg.red set'em up a 'pedo scandal'(tm) to remove politically unreliable (i've nfi , but presumably even in this set of fleas there is a set of more- and less- nsa-approved halves ) ; so fleanode.blue whine ( redditus bonsaikitten has no response mechanism aside from the whine )
09:50 asciilifeform !#s appelbaum
09:50 a111 30 results for "appelbaum", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=appelbaum
09:50 asciilifeform ^ prior art.
09:56 mircea_popescu my take is more in the vein of "visual thinkers attempting to rehash the 'hilary pedophilia scandal' for substance and of course plastering '-gate' and 'journalists' labels is how markov chains work".
09:57 mircea_popescu exactly the same substance as the "artwork" basis of http://maddox.xmission.com/irule_.html
09:58 mircea_popescu "oh, that's a cat" "oh, journalists"
10:00 mircea_popescu in other ~equivalent lulz, the jewish lobby has undergone some massive effort to publicize romanian-born early 20th century jewry, resulting in huge wikipediaballs such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Relgis
10:02 mircea_popescu (for comparison, eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantin_Daicoviciu ; this is an actually important fellow, unlike random no-name http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810279 ; so it's quite clearly not the romanians being momentarily unlazy)
10:02 a111 Logged on 2018-05-05 18:05 mircea_popescu: aand in other items of entomological interest, the wikipedia take on politicized pseudo-literary criticism is something else. aphra behn is lionized, because they're ever-so-desperate to discover, invent or if need be entirely hallucinate "remarkable" cuntbearers of the shakespeare period that some random jailbird is A HEROINE OF FEMINISM!!!
10:03 mircea_popescu (fellow also went to uruguay, is the tenuous point of apropos)
10:03 asciilifeform 'Relgis lived the final decade of his life as a pensioner of the Uruguayan state—in 1985, a law raised his pensión graciable to 20,000 new pesos a month' << lol
10:05 mircea_popescu ikr.
10:06 mircea_popescu in case you're wondering how the argentina-uruguay-etc ended up the shitholes that they are, that's exactly it : gave their money away to anarcho-humanitary-pacifisto-veganist & feminists, because "sons of europe".
10:06 mircea_popescu as per ye olde http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-121.0-121.824
10:07 * asciilifeform saw the nonagenarian italian zombies, still walking the streets of BingoBoingostan, with own eyes
10:08 mircea_popescu aha.
10:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as i understand, the .ar/.uy folk thought they could jury-rig a sort of 'alt-europe'.
10:13 mircea_popescu yup.
10:13 asciilifeform didn't, naturally, work ( recall the story of kurt tank )
10:13 asciilifeform even when they got the occasional functional brain.
10:14 mircea_popescu they didn't try though. the important part was in the jury-rigging.
10:14 mircea_popescu like one of those mcguyverists that's actually more committed to the duct taping process than to the end product.\
10:14 asciilifeform kurt tank tore out his hair, iirc 'they don't even know how to make machine screws'
10:15 asciilifeform somehow he harnessed the monkeys and built two whole jets. which then used in overthrow of peron, then rusted into dust.
10:16 asciilifeform iirc current ar 'air force' consists of surplus usg cropdusters.
10:18 mircea_popescu they even have submarines!
10:18 asciilifeform well, had, lol
10:18 mircea_popescu i can scarcely imagine a lulzier scene than argentina-borne monkeys inside german old diesel scrapmetal pile.
10:18 asciilifeform '...and if the tub had been stronger, my tale would have been longer'
10:20 asciilifeform ( this item forgotten in en world, but lives on in ru , in the form of marshak's 'Три мудреца в одном тазу Пустились по морю в грозу. Будь попрочнее Старый таз, Длиннее Был бы мой рассказ.' )
10:20 mircea_popescu hah!
10:23 mircea_popescu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avram_Steuerman-Rodion << even better example, "Steuerman himself is often described as an obscure contributor to Romanian literature, but survives in cultural memory for having given a poetic voice to the ideals of Jewish integration. "
10:23 mircea_popescu dude, just come out and fucking say it! "he was nobody on a stick, but we're jews so..."
10:23 mircea_popescu what fucken "cultural memory".
~ 24 minutes ~
10:48 asciilifeform hey they recently even 'made' harry houdini into jew
~ 2 hours 3 minutes ~
12:51 mircea_popescu http://logs.minigame.biz/2018-08-04.log.html#t16:18:15 << check it out, the smartasses are actually those http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1752954 wanna-bes.
12:51 a111 Logged on 2017-12-18 01:18 phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide."
12:51 lobbesbot Logged on 2018-08-04 16:18:15: <amar> /!\ ATTN: This channel has moved to irc.efnet.org #LRH /!\
12:53 * asciilifeform recalls ancient lulz, the 'hipcrime' spammer, who ended up becoming one of the last nails in the usenet coffin
12:55 asciilifeform ( https://archive.is/hyPDp << see also )
12:55 mircea_popescu is anything smaller than anglo "culture" ? i mean we're plumbing http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-21#1788430 levels of tiny-ness over here.
12:55 a111 Logged on 2018-03-21 16:44 mircea_popescu: "Like a bad ass she is, she proved to be wise beyond her years by standing head and shoulders (Or is it ass-tall) with the boys." doesn't even INTEND irony, you realise.
12:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if only merely small (like pygmy) . instead, elephantiasis , hypertrophied organ, fills wheelbarrow, but function approaches 0
12:59 mircea_popescu this being the essence of provincialism, though, "have you heard about that guy ?" "oh, yeah, he's my wife's cousin"
13:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, asciilifeform recently set out to write an article, and went to look for the clay shards crypto item , and found nuffin but... our l0gz
13:01 mircea_popescu heh
13:01 asciilifeform no mention of subj, anywhere, en net, ru net, nowhere.
13:02 asciilifeform not the ancient clay, not the sawed-apart rifle shells from ww2, none of'em. somehow -- evaporated.
13:03 asciilifeform briefly thought 'it's in szabo's 'seals' piece' ( https://archive.is/5GQcR ) but turns out, nope.
13:05 mircea_popescu how did that idiocy go, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809349
13:05 a111 Logged on 2018-05-04 17:15 zx2c4: mircea_popescu: oh. so. "the world doesnt care about the cool hackers on the internet, but only the assholes with prestigious positions." this has been a widely known complaint for a long time
13:06 mircea_popescu THAT is the fucking problem, in quite those terms. that i somehow care about the morons. cuz i must, cuz i'm their mother or some dumb shit. but aaanyways.
13:07 asciilifeform pretty surreal experience. picture if you sat down to write a piece on tanks, and decided to start with discussion of chariots, and then saw that somehow chariot is mentioned nowhere, and the very word -- forgotten
13:08 mircea_popescu the pretense that they're people will have to be abandoned sooner or later. like all idle pretense, it is unsustainable on the long term.
13:08 mircea_popescu "the man who marries a horse is an excentric man, not a man with a remarkable wife"
13:09 mircea_popescu even if "she" can count to 10
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15:04 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/08/germany-debates-starting-nuclear-weapons-program/ << Qntra - Germany Debates Starting Nuclear Weapons Program
~ 1 hours 47 minutes ~
16:51 asciilifeform mircea_popescu sets mode +r #trilema << RIP from_xxxx users...
16:53 mircea_popescu ok so i've set r mode ; which means only registered users can join. this will directly resolve the join/part spamolade ; but in general it's quite in line with the narrowing of tolerance for self-important douchebaggery, precisely in the vein of http://trilema.com/2018/the-republic-without-mp/#selection-175.0-179.0 ; http://trilema.com/2018/how-things-have-changed/ etcetera.
16:53 asciilifeform 'allcomers' doors are expensive.
16:53 asciilifeform i admit i'm surprised that we were able to have one for this long.
16:53 mircea_popescu subhumans have no business here ; let them go to whatever castles the respective lords feel like making the allowance.
16:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the fromphuctors can go to what do you call yours, #loperos ?
16:54 asciilifeform #asciilifeform
16:54 mircea_popescu in time, if actually cool enough, can even end up invited here.
16:54 asciilifeform i'ma fix the links shortly.
16:54 mircea_popescu alrighty then
16:55 asciilifeform errybody else who has similar derp gateway ( ...qntra ? ) oughta do the same.
16:55 mircea_popescu there's also #eulora an' #pizarro and iirc mod6 had one and a whole bunch. time to put them to work
16:56 * mircea_popescu stresses in any case that while precipitated by events, it's nevertheless where this was headed anyway.
16:57 * asciilifeform goes back to macheteing away the fucking green hell that's engulfed his hovel
16:57 mircea_popescu and for good reason, if one's to weigh the input of rando noobies for the past whatever arbitrary interval, weeks, months, whatever patience may endure, he'll find OODLETONS of self-important douchebaggery, perhaps most eminently exemplified by the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-12#1824361 scammer ; and ~zilch actual contributing to go with it.
16:57 a111 Logged on 2018-06-12 21:44 mircea_popescu: !!pay cnomad 0.1
16:57 mircea_popescu !!rated cnomad
16:57 deedbot mircea_popescu rated cnomad 1 at 2018/06/12 21:46:46 << dood either ran off with my boards or else produced an image of some sort ; we don't know the future yet
16:58 mircea_popescu !!rate cnomad -10 scammer, ran off with a dime.
16:58 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ZleCB/?raw=true
16:59 mircea_popescu anyway ; none of this is intended to discourage anyone from inviting people over. but exactly as detailed in ye things have changed article, the "general population" of herbivores has lost the franchise of coming here of own power. it'll be invite only.
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17:28 ben_vulpes why even stay on freenode?
~ 27 minutes ~
17:56 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: to where would you rather ?
17:58 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: 'make own fleanode' ( out of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-21#1837110 ) isn't much of a pill, the 'allcomers problem' doesn't go away merely from standing up a coupla ircd boxen
17:58 a111 Logged on 2018-07-21 21:18 trinque: in compounding ironies, I stood up my own ircd_ratbox earlier out of curiosity
18:05 lobbes The faint whisper of 'gossipd' can be heard reverberating off the halls of the forum. You are hungry. Exits: [North] [Down]
18:05 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: iirc i proposed at one time an intermediate item on the way to proper gossipd ( 'serpent'-ciphered tunneler to connect coupla ircd instances to each other, and ditto for users ( get otp cookie a la deedbot, get a key that's good for 1 tcp connect ) but so far instead followed mircea_popescu's advice re not wasting sweat on such a thing, but pushing with ffa so as to get with what to gossipd.
18:06 asciilifeform ( recall, this was the orig thrust behind constant-time rsa )
18:08 asciilifeform this being said, i personally would prefer exodus from fleanode to happen on our schedule, rather than in the wake of a catastrophic drop of it into complete unusability.
18:09 asciilifeform ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-01#1807079 thread )
18:09 a111 Logged on 2018-05-01 17:07 asciilifeform: quasi-relatedly, asciilifeform found himself wondering, why we're still on fleanode... between pizarro, mircea_popescu's racked boxes ( idk where, but presumably good ones ? ) , asciilifeform's own fiber, trinque , etc. could have a very solid irc net, potentially
18:13 phf asciilifeform: presumably it is still a question of strategic superiority. there's no point on wasting resources on things of little consequence. #b-a => #trilema transition happened in a couple of days, with most original infra available within a week. nothing will prevent same when fleanode is defunct, meanwhile no reason to waste any cycles on it. also act from cause
18:13 asciilifeform phf: last thing i want on my boxes, tho, is yet another 1MB ball of c opensores publicly-tcpable liquishit.
18:14 asciilifeform even on a dedicated leprotoilet -- it's simply unseemly.
18:15 phf well, right, but either or. no need to erect a leprotoilet right now if at all avoidable in the future.
18:15 asciilifeform i'd like to avoid it entirely.
18:15 mircea_popescu lobbes you're overworked, last i checked!
18:15 asciilifeform rather than to end up ersatzing into it from 'we now have a week to move'.
18:16 mircea_popescu moreover phf deeply has it ; the extant mp-wp infrastructure is wartime sufficient anyways,
18:16 phf asciilifeform: you seem to be presenting an internally conflicting argument
18:17 asciilifeform phf: elaborate?
18:19 mircea_popescu and while at it, the essential part of "#b-a => #trilema transition happened" isn't even so much the (very extremely never-seen-before) narrow time wondows ; but the fact that ~it very much was~ on own fucking schedule. i don't recall having to hassle anyone about anything. it was a coupla days cuz it took me a coupla days, and it was a week because it took trinque, phf & gang a week.
18:20 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: rechanneling inside fleanode is much smaller undertaking than baking a reasonable substitute for whole item tho
18:20 mircea_popescu i don't see it.
18:20 mircea_popescu same administrative/front end. what do you care whose ircd you run ?
18:20 phf asciilifeform: well, we don't have a gossipd, so our only move option is to take steps towards gossipd or leprotoilet. "i personally would prefer exodus from fleanode to happen on our schedule" exists at odds with both. it seems to ask for "faster gossipd" or "leprotoilet" now, hence at odds.
18:21 asciilifeform phf: i was referring to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-04#1839467 variant.
18:21 a111 Logged on 2018-08-04 22:05 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc i proposed at one time an intermediate item on the way to proper gossipd ( 'serpent'-ciphered tunneler to connect coupla ircd instances to each other, and ditto for users ( get otp cookie a la deedbot, get a key that's good for 1 tcp connect ) but so far instead followed mircea_popescu's advice re not wasting sweat on such a thing, but pushing with ffa so as to get with what to gossipd.
18:21 asciilifeform but mircea_popescu has it -- even if fleanode unplugged tonight, we can still speak. it'll simply be temporary headache.
18:22 mircea_popescu gotta permit fate to speak. for all you know we mgiht discover we didn't even like irc.
18:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: recall, asciilifeform was initially a very reluctant user of irc.
18:22 mircea_popescu as unlikely as it seems ; and it does seem. waves are the result of earth's existence, and the only way to conquer resistance of the medium is to make it work for you.
18:23 mircea_popescu in any case, gotta let things like fiction characters play out their own life story.
18:23 * asciilifeform was very much a 'real time speech is for lamers' type, prior to hanbot's instigation
18:23 * asciilifeform will bbl -- meat
18:25 mircea_popescu anyway, tbh i'm mostly encouraging the utter collapse of freenode's "security" model. it should be obvious that lode/ae dorks could just as well REGISTER the spambots. it's a fully automated process, what's the problem, emails ? gimme a break.
18:25 mircea_popescu whole thing adds exactly nothing practically speaking.
18:26 mircea_popescu but i want to fully realise the republican advantage over the pantsuit morons. this situation where #trilema is safe "and so are their chans" is overt socialism redistributing goods from us to the moronherd.
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18:41 deedbot http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/08/04/a-collection-of-pearls-as-well-as-ever-sadder-epitaphs/ << Ossasepia - A Collection of Pearls as Well as Ever Sadder Epitaphs
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19:10 mod6 BingoBoingo: any news on the drive shipment?
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19:29 BingoBoingo mod6: They are still waiting to get cleared
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19:52 mod6 thx
20:03 mod6 !!sent-invoices
20:03 mod6 !!ledger
20:03 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kNudj/?raw=true
20:03 deedbot http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/X6qez/?raw=true
20:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i expect the spammer folx will register their bots in short order. it takes ~0 work.
20:17 asciilifeform whole thing is ~= a reddit.
20:18 asciilifeform diana_coman: pretty great collection of http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-21#1379603 .
20:18 a111 Logged on 2016-01-21 13:29 asciilifeform: 'if i make it what i think is the right size, it crashes!111'
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20:38 mircea_popescu aha.
20:38 mircea_popescu provided, of course, the whole show's not run off a script the kiddies bought from some dood in russia.
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