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02:27 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743279 <- I had this with cypriots too; bbbut no tv? not *even* where you sit with friends? what do you do?? well, we...talk, you know; to be fair I've put that on account of youth rather than more generic rot but maybe I was wrong
02:27 a111 Logged on 2017-11-27 02:03 asciilifeform: similar reaction if you invite an american d00d into a house with no tv set
~ 23 minutes ~
02:51 mircea_popescu few people can get through any social call without tv support. which is how they ended up invading bars etc.
~ 6 hours 6 minutes ~
08:58 mircea_popescu !!up kjj
08:58 deedbot kjj voiced for 30 minutes.
09:02 kjj were withdrawls delayed because of the holiday weekend?
09:02 mircea_popescu what withdrawals ?
09:03 kjj I put in a request on the 25th. haven't seen anything on that address yet
09:04 mircea_popescu yes but where did you put it ?
09:05 kjj mpex.biz textbox as usual
09:05 mircea_popescu ah. will look into it.
09:06 mircea_popescu !!key kjj
09:06 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/19F1FBD703330401EE654DAB5D91317ED300C048.asc
09:07 mircea_popescu !!rate kjj 1 Ancient.
09:07 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nD0Nf/?raw=true
09:13 mircea_popescu kjj you can now self-voice btw. send !!up to deedbot in a pm whenever needed.
09:20 mircea_popescu kjj http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iNoOh/?raw=true
09:22 kjj thanks
09:22 mircea_popescu my pleasure.
~ 22 minutes ~
09:45 mircea_popescu trinque http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qrKUM/?raw=true
09:48 asciilifeform https://archive.is/3i3U4 << in other lulz.
09:49 asciilifeform 'Prague's High Court on November 24 upheld a lower court's ruling allowing the extradition of Yevgeny Nikulin, whom the United States accuses of hacking computers and stealing information from major Internet companies including LinkedIn and Dropbox.'
09:50 mircea_popescu why the czech republic ?
09:50 mircea_popescu o, right, teh cuntlets huh.
09:50 asciilifeform that makes... 4th? 'вредитель' kidnapped by usg from 'neutral' cuntry this yr ?
09:50 mircea_popescu bohemia never independent.
09:50 asciilifeform troo
09:50 mircea_popescu dood ~could~ have just sat his ass down in belgrade, bussed the hos in from prague
09:51 mircea_popescu but no, gotta be dumb.
09:51 asciilifeform belgrade not colonized yet ?
09:53 mircea_popescu i dunno, i kinda dun see the "sorry, avion ti gori" folk upholding any rulings.
09:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/P9rhc/?raw=true
~ 37 minutes ~
10:33 trinque mircea_popescu: sure can
10:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: got it!
10:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and yes that was pretty clear.
~ 31 minutes ~
11:06 deedbot kjj: gpg: error reading key: public key not foundhttp://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/EMRuw/?raw=true
11:06 trinque lol
11:07 asciilifeform waiwat how's that work. to what did deedbot encrypt the message then ?
11:07 deedbot kjj: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/uJZQW/?raw=true
11:08 trinque mmm apparently the correct key
~ 2 hours 3 minutes ~
13:11 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743327 << lol, dsa and elgamal !!
13:11 a111 Logged on 2017-11-27 14:06 deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/19F1FBD703330401EE654DAB5D91317ED300C048.asc
13:12 asciilifeform and, bonus, sha1 flag for sigs
13:12 asciilifeform a trifecta.
13:13 asciilifeform and in 2012..
13:14 asciilifeform ( for n00bz : ~one~ failure of rng leaks entire privkey, in dsa. )
13:16 asciilifeform sadly for kjj, as i understand he is stuck with this key 4evah, unless he wants to buy a boeing for mpex...
13:17 asciilifeform moral -- measure seven times, cut once, etc. ( asciilifeform for instance is stuck with a 2048b rsa, at least until we finally throw gpg )
13:19 asciilifeform in other olds, https://arxiv.org/abs/1501.00447v1
13:21 asciilifeform ( see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-12-19#1347996 and elsewhere. )
13:21 a111 Logged on 2015-12-19 22:55 punkman: "I actually have two implementations of example malicious signers:  One produces non-deterministic signatures and leaks a 256 bit private key, to the holder of a specific public key and no one else, in ~33 signatures with very high probability (failure rate of 1 in 1000 for 33 signatures, around 1 in a million for 34). The other produces a seemingly RFC 6979 like deterministic signatures and
13:34 asciilifeform meanwhile, in deaths: http://www.colorforth.com is now a link farm.
13:34 ben_vulpes awwwww
13:34 ben_vulpes nobody cares about dns records anymore apparently
13:35 ben_vulpes also earthlink, bless
13:35 asciilifeform https://colorforth.github.io/index.html << he moved to shithub, apparently.
13:36 asciilifeform chuck moore's http://www.greenarraychips.com still alive.
13:38 asciilifeform http://www.ultratechnology.com/color4th.html << text transcript of moore's speech re colorforth .
13:39 asciilifeform 'I am utterly frustrated with the software I have to deal with. Windows is beyond comprehension! UNIX is no better. DOS is no better. There is no reason for an OS. It is a non-thing. Maybe it was needed at one time.' etc.
~ 25 minutes ~
14:05 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
14:05 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9515.0, vol: 15398.84215450 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9514.8, vol: 76883.33269031 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9469.9, vol: 3428.4299081 | Volume-weighted last average: 9513.22382425
~ 1 hours 28 minutes ~
15:34 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743362 << hopefully that's 2018.
15:34 a111 Logged on 2017-11-27 18:17 asciilifeform: moral -- measure seven times, cut once, etc. ( asciilifeform for instance is stuck with a 2048b rsa, at least until we finally throw gpg )
15:35 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i've cut ffa into 30 pieces, each ~1 pg; -> bl0g article.
15:35 mircea_popescu o hey.
15:35 asciilifeform ( each own ada compilationunit. )
15:36 asciilifeform builds a static .a lib, linkable.
15:36 mircea_popescu do what i did when i leaked teh wikileaks, set it to publish one per hour or such
15:36 asciilifeform yea, could ( tho i imagine a serious reader will need somewhat moar than 1hr to follow along )
15:37 mircea_popescu so whatever, 6/day
15:37 asciilifeform the other notion is that each shot oughta be a vpatch from previous . so also vtronics practice.
15:37 mircea_popescu not a bad idea.
15:37 asciilifeform ( rather than release of whole thing as 'born grown' genesis )
15:38 asciilifeform it will make apparent what the logical structure of the thing is.
15:38 asciilifeform ( which pieces make use of which other )
15:38 mircea_popescu aha.
15:39 mircea_popescu if it's worth writing, it's worth writing well. if it's work writing well, it's worth publishing well. if it's worth publishing well, it's worth reading. and so on.
15:40 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743378 <- yay; I'll read!
15:40 a111 Logged on 2017-11-27 20:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've cut ffa into 30 pieces, each ~1 pg; -> bl0g article.
15:40 mircea_popescu the cnat raed crowd of brogrammers didn't get ONE thing wrong. they got a whole list of things wrong (that they think is one single thing, but then again primitive man also has a single word for enemy, be it wolbachia, wolves or western men.
15:40 asciilifeform currently asciilifeform is barfing over the fact that adacore's gnat is happy to build static 'independent library' .a while gpl gcc's gnat barfs
15:41 asciilifeform the latter is the source of 100% of the tears in the l0gz to date re 'it dun go'
15:41 diana_coman mircea_popescu, rot or non-rot shows equally at all levels, so it's rather hard to get much of a mixture of either side of it
15:42 asciilifeform i'd naively expect that adacore's item would be the satanic one, and gcc's fork -- the functional. but so far in no case was this the finding.
15:44 mircea_popescu in other fake news / mass media lulz, i read in today's la nacion that bitcoin went over 8k usd, and that various nobodies leeching the tax chest opine as to how "items not backed by anything are risky".
15:44 mircea_popescu somehow it's 2012 again and the item not backed by anything is bitcoin, not the various fiats.
15:45 mircea_popescu "bitch, really, what is the united states dobaloo backed by ?!" "the full faith and credit of the us government!!" "you mean like... the webpage by that name ?!" "no no there's so much more to it than that!!1" "im sure."
15:45 diana_coman to me it seems they rehash that ~every time it jumps up in price by 1k or so
15:46 trinque can't wait to read, asciilifeform
15:46 trinque and use
15:50 mircea_popescu diana_coman ayup. but it's funny, you know, dude in a toyota going "hey mister, shitty imports are not reliable cars".
15:50 mircea_popescu doh ?
15:50 mircea_popescu you'd think it's sheer postmodernism, thief yelling thief and the dudes sitting atop piles of unbacked paper derping about how bitcoin is "risky because not backed by anything"
15:50 mircea_popescu only thing to be backed by something out of the whole field.
15:52 mircea_popescu (but it's cracking ; for instance the supposedly captured fmi is putting out notions of how countries should probably monetize bitcoin rather than other countries currencies. so dixit lagarde. who, i suppose, has been raping hotel maids in new york according to the usg suto dept.)
15:52 diana_coman eh, it's postmodernism in the usual sense that "this word here doesn't mean what it means anymore but something else I decided"; aka "backed" now means as far as I heard "but everyday transactions happen still in fiat"
15:52 mircea_popescu i'm all for it, too. let the pretend sovereigns pay for the cost of circulating monetary mass.
15:52 mircea_popescu cuck wants to pretend, let him pick up the tab.
15:53 diana_coman yeah, I just can't see the "logic" in that "definition" but not really expecting it by now anyway; perhaps it's more of "but this is what we know and it's been around for x years therefore it is solid"
15:54 mircea_popescu o yeah totally.
15:54 mircea_popescu i suppose i should put up a video lighting cigars with benjies or something.
15:55 diana_coman lol; those aren't plastic at least, are they
15:55 mircea_popescu afaik still linen paper.
16:04 asciilifeform light but dun inhale, thing is full of rare earths and nao also polymer crapolade
16:04 asciilifeform ( would be interesting to burn it and mass spec, see exactly what inside. )
16:05 ben_vulpes DRM violation alert!!1
16:05 asciilifeform and what % cocaine
16:08 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743408 << what's it even mean for something to be ~honestly~ backed ? even in era when various paper moneys were theoretically 'backed in gold' what would have happened if million folx walked in to claim their au ?
16:08 a111 Logged on 2017-11-27 20:50 mircea_popescu: only thing to be backed by something out of the whole field.
16:08 asciilifeform as i understand it, whole idea of 'backed currency' is intrinsically chumpatronic.
16:10 asciilifeform three modest warheads, together weighing less than a toyota, and usd worth ~0 in short order, regardless of by what backed.
16:10 asciilifeform or if one insists : 1 sha256 collision on tx set, and btc similarly.
16:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform huh didn't consider that.
16:11 asciilifeform ( see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-01#1709540 and possibly elsewhere )
16:11 a111 Logged on 2017-09-01 23:26 asciilifeform: we already established that a hash collision is asteroid event for blockchain.
16:11 mircea_popescu i meant re the "don't inhale" part.
16:11 asciilifeform oh yea
16:11 mircea_popescu you can't light a cigar without "inhaling", goes right into it
16:11 asciilifeform hence the observation.
16:11 mircea_popescu aww pity.
16:12 asciilifeform light a detcord or sumthing else useful and pyrotechnic.
16:12 mircea_popescu whole point is to light something useless by burning something useless.
16:12 asciilifeform then light the pyre with captured nsa stoolie or whoever is first candidate...
16:12 mircea_popescu if useful pyrotechnics, i'd burn say voltaire.
16:17 * asciilifeform bbl,teatime
16:18 mircea_popescu meanwhile in old whore passing the whore torch to young whore, http://78.media.tumblr.com/bf711257d2423930babcd74671debfb9/tumblr_mi0oaslL301r2cjkwo1_500.gif
~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~
17:22 BingoBoingo In other news, network switch has arrived, does fit in luggage
17:30 mircea_popescu dun dun dun]
~ 16 minutes ~
17:46 BingoBoingo Checked bag to be clear, not carryon able
~ 20 minutes ~
18:07 mod6 <+diana_coman> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-27#1743378 <- yay; I'll read! << ditto
18:07 a111 Logged on 2017-11-27 20:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've cut ffa into 30 pieces, each ~1 pg; -> bl0g article.
18:07 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: meanwhile i bought ssds.
18:12 asciilifeform in other not really noose, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743205 sparked pretty lively ( if inconclusive ) comment thread.
18:12 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 23:55 deedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1927 << Loper OS - The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
18:16 mircea_popescu asciilifeform seems to boil down to approx discussion here.
~ 15 minutes ~
18:32 asciilifeform ( amusingly, there is an nsa version : https://ipgard.com/product-category/secureswitch )
18:37 asciilifeform in other older olds, asciilifeform finally dug up http://trilema.com/2011/poveste-trista-cu-ciobanesc-german -- because literally same thing happened to him in timis ! even same ~type~ of dog
18:39 mircea_popescu jesus
18:39 mircea_popescu those fucking idiots.
18:39 mircea_popescu should have to get a license to own dogs.
18:39 asciilifeform german shepherd. and followed me around town, for hour+
18:39 asciilifeform and stopped to poke head into yards, 'hey maybe they need a dog'
18:40 mircea_popescu didja buy it a bacon "?
18:40 asciilifeform proper, tall beast, with proper pointy ears
18:40 asciilifeform nope, it switched to another d00d before asciilifeform got to where they have eats
18:40 mircea_popescu them's da breaks.
18:40 asciilifeform this was in the north-eastern part of town, with the old water tower
18:41 asciilifeform ( what's the story of that thing, i did wonder, it was grandiose and entirely abandoned by all appearances )
18:41 mircea_popescu i dunno.
18:46 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_tower_1.jpg + http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_tower_2.jpg << subj ( and it dun fit in 1 frame, even )
18:47 asciilifeform 'steampunk' monument.
18:48 * asciilifeform wondered what it would cost to buy.
18:49 mircea_popescu eh, the locals are retarded. there's a building right downtown, huge, ancient, derelict, standing there for decade+.
18:49 mircea_popescu not sold because... they're poor and stupid, basically.
18:50 asciilifeform whaddayamean 'a building', i saw 100s
18:51 asciilifeform there was 1 even right by the hotel, the very next door. roof fell off ( i wondered how, there were what, hurricanes ? strong enuff to rip off steel roof ? ) and squad of metallists worked on cutting it to pieces, and carting away, whole time i was there
18:53 mircea_popescu rain.
18:53 asciilifeform lolwat
18:53 asciilifeform rain twisted 20 tonnes of steel roof so that i could see the underside ?
18:54 BingoBoingo Many of these in Middle West along towns that were formerly rail transit hubs, architecturally grandoise for setting, but neglected and then fall
18:59 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: that water tower is epic
19:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform if you fail to maintain a steel structure for long enough, it will rust in weak spots and bend under own weight.
19:00 asciilifeform oughta be inwards tho
19:00 asciilifeform rather than out
19:00 mircea_popescu no tornado needed.
19:00 mircea_popescu this is always a disputable point.
19:00 asciilifeform i can picture how it might, tho
19:00 mircea_popescu which is why the whole "that's not how towers fall" experts are so laughable. bitch...
19:01 mircea_popescu if we could say how shit fails we'd be way ahead in the game. problem with failing shit is that it fails as it wants to fail.
19:01 mircea_popescu when it fails as you want it to fail it's called "working".
19:02 asciilifeform other typical items : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_factory.jpg
19:03 asciilifeform ( that last previously in thread http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-25#1728629 )
19:03 a111 Logged on 2017-10-25 16:55 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 45°45'39.1"N 21°15'25.0"E
19:06 asciilifeform incidentally an item like 'sad mansion 2' is quite unthinkable in usa : it STILL HAS GLASS !!
19:08 mircea_popescu ah, those are gypsy mansions
19:08 mircea_popescu the guys start building them, then the money runs out.
19:08 mircea_popescu very persian empire cca 917 ad lifestyle.
19:08 asciilifeform #2 i immediately suspected
19:08 asciilifeform but how about the first
19:08 asciilifeform it definitely looked pre-commie
19:08 mircea_popescu yup.
19:08 mircea_popescu nah. was built 2005ish.
19:08 asciilifeform with brick arches?!
19:08 mircea_popescu and they're all inhabited, the herd lives in the basement usually.
19:09 mircea_popescu if you look, the brick is just cut to a concrete arch. faux.
19:09 asciilifeform Uzinele Mecanice Timișoara was definitely inhabited.
19:09 asciilifeform hm interesting.
19:12 asciilifeform http://www.romania-actualitati.ro/files/timisoara-1989-tata-noi-suntem-copii-ce-sa-ne-faca-noua-18342909.jpg << related lulz
19:19 asciilifeform gotta wonder if the derps suspected that it would turn into http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt2.jpg
19:19 asciilifeform bonus archaeology : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt_b00kz_1.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_umt_b00kz_2.jpg
19:21 asciilifeform the interesting bit is that the corp nominally still exists : http://www.umt.ro , makes bmw gearboxes or what was it, in some back corner of the massive campus full of ???.
19:21 asciilifeform but linked because there were quite definitely ~somebody~ living in there. ( did not look like what i expect of bums, however. looked like people, of sorts. )
19:24 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/mafioso/ << Trilema - Mafioso
~ 1 hours 23 minutes ~
20:47 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743505 >> err, eggog, http://www.umt.ro/Acasa.html
20:47 a111 Logged on 2017-11-28 00:21 asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that the corp nominally still exists : http://www.umt.ro , makes bmw gearboxes or what was it, in some back corner of the massive campus full of ???.
~ 1 hours 50 minutes ~
22:38 mircea_popescu aaand in other news, bitcoin getting close to 10k means that the http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ offer stands at just about $200 worth for a half hour's work if that. nevertheless, something to the tune of four billion females the world over perceive, entirely hallucinatorily, that they have the option to eschew this.
22:38 mircea_popescu not to mention the hordes of "digital artists" who hallucinate the ridoinculous notion that they have the option to not work for minigame.
22:39 mircea_popescu all these idiots will be whining -- plenty of them are already whining -- about "unfairness" and "wealth distribution". the part where it's the just desserts for their own mendacity conveniently omitted.
22:39 mircea_popescu somehow if the usg website comes up with "it's illegal to smoke", they stop smoking, AS FUCKING IF. whereas when the republic orders, they "have options".
22:40 mircea_popescu somehow nobody manages to feel even vaguely responsible for all the gains they DIDN'T realize ; much like that famous anon whore, "let me tell you what i want in exchange for what i'm willing to do" cuz it's like poorocracy over here or something now.
22:46 trinque relatedly, after last weeekend's work, I can actually write up how said anontits can receive their btc via deedbot. had to make it such that deedbot can pass over a new acct, but reliance on deedbot ends there for key to wallet mapping.
22:47 trinque in the absence of gossipd, using ssh with $user<->$specificCommand between nodes
22:50 mircea_popescu aha!
23:01 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743510 << betcha mircea_popescu would conclusively barf long before a thousand, much less 4b, were to show up, with their inevitable and loathesome moan 'unfair! virii stole me coinz', 'my gox stole!' and similar leprosies
23:01 a111 Logged on 2017-11-28 03:38 mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, bitcoin getting close to 10k means that the http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ offer stands at just about $200 worth for a half hour's work if that. nevertheless, something to the tune of four billion females the world over perceive, entirely hallucinatorily, that they have the option to eschew this.
23:04 asciilifeform turne out, even most supposedly-literate folx dun have what it takes to properly operate own btctron.
23:06 asciilifeform ( i for instance have some approximate notion of how many people have an actual rng. the number is not large. )
23:14 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743514 << the 4 possible types of people : a) those who had nfi wtf btc is and still have nfi b) those who bought btc by the trainload at <= 5bux c) who did not, and have no hallucinated defense mechanism in their head d) who did not, and have one
23:14 a111 Logged on 2017-11-28 03:40 mircea_popescu: somehow nobody manages to feel even vaguely responsible for all the gains they DIDN'T realize ; much like that famous anon whore, "let me tell you what i want in exchange for what i'm willing to do" cuz it's like poorocracy over here or something now.
23:15 asciilifeform members of group 'c' presumably have already eaten their pistols. whereas members of groups 'a' and 'b' aren't particularly talkative. ergo the most regularly met with type, is 'd'.
23:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i really wouldn't gas.
23:19 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743512 << gotta wonder what those phrases are plebespeak code for, in actuality. 'i dun have the things the tv people have' ?
23:19 a111 Logged on 2017-11-28 03:39 mircea_popescu: all these idiots will be whining -- plenty of them are already whining -- about "unfairness" and "wealth distribution". the part where it's the just desserts for their own mendacity conveniently omitted.
23:19 mircea_popescu evidently.
23:19 mircea_popescu do you know there is not.one.single.shop selling pure natural fiber shirts in all of costa rica ?
23:20 mircea_popescu i'm like "silk" dude recognizes the word, it's like i went to fish shop in 1980. "oh, THAT is what we don't have here!!! i know what it is! it's the thing this shop doesn'thave!"
23:20 asciilifeform unsurprising , turd world (incl usa) all walks in those same chinese synthetic shirts
23:20 mircea_popescu linen ? "linen can't be used for textiles because it frays" "your mom also frays. how about cotton ?"
23:21 mircea_popescu "o, sure, we got that!" dood comes back, 65% polyester, 35% cotton.
23:21 mircea_popescu this... is... polyester!
23:21 mircea_popescu oh. well pure cotton can't be used for clothing!!! bitch... this shirt on me, see it ? this is 100% cotton!
23:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you don't understand how http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742437 works.
23:22 a111 Logged on 2017-11-23 15:20 diana_coman: ahahaha "like mircea popescu or whatever his name is, but even with him i suspect he's not anywhere near as rich as he wants people to think he is - it doesn't add up; poorly fitted suits, average looking hotel suites/condos, spends all his time living in cheap shitholes which is precisely what white people who have money to live abroad but aren't rich do)" ; from ^^
23:22 mircea_popescu they have BRAND NAME cheap polyester chinese shirts. thereby... VEHEMENT OPULENCE.
23:22 asciilifeform aha same as in usa
23:22 asciilifeform i suspect cr is in the event horizon of the unspeakable beast.
23:23 mircea_popescu sort-of the sicily of rome. by 2500 they'll still have the most period-accurate pantsuit worn on the streets
23:23 asciilifeform from mircea_popescu's tales, it has roughly similar absent-fishes-at-the-fishmonger.
23:23 mircea_popescu much like sicilian dialect to this day puts the verb in last place, "siciliano sono"
23:26 asciilifeform recall the cr food thread ? the very presence of the usa expats, i suspect makes various nice things scarce
23:27 mircea_popescu us expats are to the last man poor fucks. their impact is ~0, you should see how happy 60yo is to have the attention of 19yo nicaraguan
23:27 asciilifeform they won't buy sprats, or cotton shirts, why would apeman give a shit re of what is the shirt
23:27 mircea_popescu no, the problem is the unhappy meeting of a deeply rural population with the chinese empire.
23:27 asciilifeform apparently collectively >0 ?
23:27 mircea_popescu i doubt it.
23:28 mircea_popescu most of the cr tourism receipts are euros brought by zee germans, followed by euros brought by the azns (who, weirdly, tend to use euros more than dollars).
23:28 asciilifeform tourists dun typically buy groceries afaik
23:28 mircea_popescu cr regularily has a major euro excedent and dollar deficit (as it imports cars and shit from mexico for usd)
23:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "expats" are generally dorks come here a week-two at a time for the hookers.
23:29 mircea_popescu generally, retired old men on measly budgets.
23:29 asciilifeform hm i pictured 'brass pole in bangkok' old fart perma-exiles
23:29 mircea_popescu not generally.
23:30 asciilifeform interesting
23:30 mircea_popescu of the people who genuinely live here and bear us passports, the majority is the us embassy residentura.
23:30 asciilifeform so take that casino d00d -- rly, he's going back north ? why would he do that..?
23:30 mircea_popescu ie a coupla dozen dorks.
23:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform cuz it's expensive to be here ?
23:31 asciilifeform i thought whole point for him, was the cheap ?
23:31 mircea_popescu the cheap ~whores~.
23:31 mircea_popescu girl here can be had for a hundy a night, and she'll be pliant. he can't get what he's looking for in the us, at any price ; nor can he really afford the 2-3k a night top shelf (ie, teens, tall, nice figure, good manners etc)
23:32 asciilifeform but other items, expensive ? what's a modest flat cost ?
23:32 mircea_popescu bout the same as in the us.
23:32 mircea_popescu not miami-us, but wisconsin-us.
23:32 asciilifeform so why wisconsin not empty of its pensioners yet
23:33 mircea_popescu same reason i don't have a 4 byte index of 4bn tits.
23:34 asciilifeform yea gotta be. same reason ro ain't filling up
23:34 mircea_popescu girls slightly more expensive there
23:34 mircea_popescu though not on a per foot basis.
23:34 asciilifeform save on square metrage; spend on gurlz
23:34 mircea_popescu per foot of height i meant.
23:35 asciilifeform lol bought like cable ?
23:35 asciilifeform 'i'll take six meterz plox'
23:35 mircea_popescu well if your distance's 5"8 what can you do with a coupla 3"6s ?
23:35 asciilifeform 0
23:36 asciilifeform but where outside of pygmystan are they 3"6
23:36 mircea_popescu here
23:36 asciilifeform nuts
23:36 mircea_popescu great tits, great asses, as tall as your dick altogether.
23:37 asciilifeform i get the impression that mircea_popescu ended up in more of a 'martian colony' position than he'd like -- stuck importing literally all of the necessities of life
23:39 mircea_popescu honestly, when it comes to females imports are always preferable. if you can make do with what the soil provides you should probably increase your standards.
23:39 mircea_popescu if you run a farm you can just lasso the local cowsies, but if you run a IC plant you prolly have to attract foreigners.
23:40 mircea_popescu meanwhile, the things that don't have to be imported (colonials : chocolate, coffee, fresh fruit of land and sea etc) are much preferable. whore suffers naught for a 10 hour trip in the plane ; tuna quite does.
23:40 asciilifeform i can picture.
23:41 asciilifeform usa is an astonishing pit, banana republic with 0 bananas
23:41 mircea_popescu whereas here can stop car on roadside
23:41 asciilifeform at least down south : bananas.
23:41 mircea_popescu and cut your own
23:41 asciilifeform aha.
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