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00:58 ben_vulpes brilliant ideas from the let's-build-careers-and-fingertraps-for-the-unwary-by-running-javascript-on-the-server crowd: http://tldr.sh/
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01:15 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/11/26/specs-and-designs-for-the-first-ever-bugatti-comps/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Specs and designs for the first ever Bugatti-Comps.
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01:17 trinque aaand automatic wallet creation when n00bs register with deedbot
01:21 ben_vulpes aaand patient died on the operating table.
01:22 ben_vulpes no idea why resizing sda3 would kill my poor gentoo, but lo, i killed her jim.
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01:23 * trinque plays taps
01:23 BingoBoingo Poor mr vulpes
01:24 ben_vulpes i have backups, including my usual obsessive notes from the run that brought the frankenbox up in the first place, ain't the end of the world, just the realization of some deferred losses.
01:24 trinque https://hackaday.com/2017/08/18/apples-secure-enclave-processor-sep-firmware-decyrpted/ << in other prying open of black boxes
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02:17 mircea_popescu heh]
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09:00 mircea_popescu in other naked truths, ttps://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nintchdbpict000319251588.jpg
09:00 mircea_popescu meh. https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nintchdbpict000319251588.jpg
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09:02 mircea_popescu meanwhile in "sudden & overnight moral panics / signalling fashions at Kink High usually spend a coupla years in the making", http://trilema.com/2015/the-squares-and-the-holes/
09:04 mircea_popescu whole fucking #metoo bullshit was ongoing in 2015 ; outside of http://trilema.com/2016/stfu-attention-whore-culture/ nobody said anything (and sure as fuck nobody roundkicked around the house any of the mousey whinebags involved). #surprised?
09:05 mircea_popescu "why doesn't trilema publish something about #random-idiocy-of-today ???" "because it did years ago, back when you should have been paying attention".
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09:46 mircea_popescu and speaking of history, here's a well forgotten bit (finally wikipedia can be useful, recent pop culture topic!) :
09:46 mircea_popescu "RonAndFez.com : New York's WNEW-FM was converted from a long-respected rock station to all-talk in 1999, with afternoon drive show Opie and Anthony as the focal point. Ron and Fez signed on to host an overnight talk show named Ron and Fez Dot Com, beginning February 21, 2000 and broadcast from 11pm–3am. Ron and Fez eventually moved to evenings (7:00–11:00 pm), then to early afternoon (12:00–3:00pm) and later back to th
09:46 mircea_popescu e evening timeslot. Buoyed by Opie and Anthony's lead-in ratings, the duo began to enjoy success. During this period, several memorable characters joined their on-air team, including taciturn producer Hawk, Dumpy, Tasteless Ginny, and the call-in prankster Joe Poo. The show's web-based premise inspired the founding of several websites devoted to the show, including RFBabies.com (once a haven for the show's cadre of young fema
09:46 mircea_popescu le fans), and the unofficial site for the show. Though "Dot Com" was soon dropped from the show's title, Ron and Fez have garnered an admirable online following due to RonFez.net."
09:48 mircea_popescu needless to say that all those websites are dead ; and that the "cadre" of young female fans is long rotten away, the 16 to 21 yo female crowd is all over what even these days ? etsy/patreon/facebook/what ? FUCKTARDS FUCKING RUINED THE GROUPIE! 2010s are a regression to fucking 1950, holy hell, gotta have elvis come back to shake his hips once more ?
09:48 mircea_popescu WNEW-FM didn't suck in the 90s. where is it. what happened. questions!
09:50 cruciform http://trilema.com/2015/the-squares-and-the-holes/#footnote_5_63723 <- wonderful! cannot wait for the end of the fiat-enabled welfare/warfare state, with all its attendant pervsersions
09:50 mircea_popescu cruciform did you notice the cartoon with the baby turtles ?
09:50 cruciform mircea_popescu: haven't got to that section yet :)
09:51 mircea_popescu aok.
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10:11 mircea_popescu and in other radio news, http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/04/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/anthony-fired-tweets-opie-and-anthony/index.html
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14:30 ag3nt_zer0 re: bitfinex tether usdt - mtgox 2.0? https://medium.com/@bitfinexed
14:36 asciilifeform ag3nt_zer0: see also http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1446
14:36 asciilifeform ag3nt_zer0: participation in goxes, of any and all forms, is OPTIONAL
14:37 ag3nt_zer0 good morning asciilifeform... thx! looking for reliable info...
14:39 asciilifeform lol 'reliable info' on what
14:39 asciilifeform lemme guess, on 'the right time to get out of this particular gox' ??
14:39 asciilifeform the answer is... there is no right time to be IN it to begin with
14:40 asciilifeform and having been 'in' it to begin with at ANY point is symptomatic of severe problems ~on your end~
14:41 asciilifeform whole. fucking. point. of. bitcoin. is that you dun need a gox. never, for nothing, at no point.
14:42 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743153 << fwiw i never heard of either of these
14:42 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 15:11 mircea_popescu: and in other radio news, http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/04/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/anthony-fired-tweets-opie-and-anthony/index.html
14:42 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743139 << or of this. wtf is that ?
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14:42 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 14:00 mircea_popescu: meh. https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/nintchdbpict000319251588.jpg
14:43 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743136 << lulzily, observe that this is coming out just about immediately when crapple PHASED OUT the chip ( it got replaced with the face mugshot idiocy )
14:43 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 06:24 trinque: https://hackaday.com/2017/08/18/apples-secure-enclave-processor-sep-firmware-decyrpted/ << in other prying open of black boxes
14:43 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743132 << didja resize ~down~ ?? afaik resizing down never, at any point, worked ~anywhere.
14:43 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 06:22 ben_vulpes: no idea why resizing sda3 would kill my poor gentoo, but lo, i killed her jim.
14:44 trinque neh, thought the faceID thing used the "secure enclave" too
14:44 asciilifeform hm, does it ? i'll admit, i did not follow in real time.
14:44 trinque https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208108 << aha, state of the art!!11!
14:45 asciilifeform lolk
14:45 asciilifeform 'Even if you don’t enroll in Face ID, the TrueDepth camera intelligently activates to support attention aware features, like dimming the display if you aren't looking at your iPhone or lowering the volume of alerts if you're looking at your device. For example, when using Safari, your device will check to determine if you're looking at your device and turns the screen off if you aren’t.' << ahahahhawut
14:46 asciilifeform hey recall that patent, 'test if plebemeat is actually looking at the ads, if not -> no jam for supper' ?
14:46 asciilifeform apparently live nao.
14:46 asciilifeform 'Users with physical limitations can select “Accessibility Options” during enrollment that doesn't require the full range of head motion to capture different angles' << but at least one can register Officially as a tard !111 and cheat.
14:46 asciilifeform for now.
14:47 hanbot sounds like compulsory buttplug is right around the corner
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14:47 asciilifeform verily.
14:48 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743129 << is asciilifeform the only one who had some hope that this was a serious post ?
14:48 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 06:15 deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/11/26/specs-and-designs-for-the-first-ever-bugatti-comps/ << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Specs and designs for the first ever Bugatti-Comps.
14:53 ag3nt_zer0 asciilifeform reliable info just meaning a look at the situation from an area of the btc world that isn't full of shit - HERE being the only place I trust... and re: "no right time to be in it" I am assuming you mean having control of private keys at all times and that if I am really interested in trading in a "reliable" way that I should be doing it here?, via WOT channels? or am I in outerspace herE?
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14:54 asciilifeform !~ticker --market all
14:54 jhvh1 asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9100.02, vol: 10602.28780808 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9240.2, vol: 61199.18993364 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9085.7, vol: 3027.16298779 | Volume-weighted last average: 9214.08800107
14:54 asciilifeform ag3nt_zer0: correct, control of private keys.
14:55 asciilifeform but at the very least, if yer gonna put someone else at your reactor controls, have it be somebody you can actually rate.
14:59 asciilifeform ag3nt_zer0: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-23#1742484 thread, and elsewhere.
14:59 a111 Logged on 2017-11-23 16:17 mircea_popescu: also that ballas quote re giving up the capital.
14:59 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i was hoping for eg trinary circuits, dataflow fabric, but quickly disappoint.
15:00 ben_vulpes also did manage to resurrect box by regenerating mbr with lilo
15:00 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: was hoping for something, anything, other than monkey noises. but disappoint.
15:02 ben_vulpes gotta recalibrate yr expectations, i guess
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16:28 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/lets-de-ballas-a-ballas-piece-on-rape-well-on-rape-anyway-but-its-with-sexing-genders-and-interns-so-you-know/ << Trilema - Let's de-Ballas a Ballas piece. On rape. Well... on "rape", anyway. But it's with sexing genders and interns so you know...
16:34 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743165 << that is the 30mn entrepreneur, http://trilema.com/2014/holy-shit-technical-analysis-is-real/#footnote_0_57849
16:34 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 19:42 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743139 << or of this. wtf is that ?
16:34 mircea_popescu (surprisingly to no one but the sort that get surprised by such things, kim kardashians' us pics are heavily edited.)
16:35 mircea_popescu the previous item are radio hosts, a major underpinning of us counterculture throughout the 70s and 80s. not really much left by the 90s, and totally gone now.
16:36 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743180 << honestly this isn't even such a bad idea.
16:36 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 19:47 hanbot: sounds like compulsory buttplug is right around the corner
16:37 mircea_popescu (for the harem, obviously, not so much for harem-wannabes, but that's aside )
16:38 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743184 << consider at some point switching from this situation where you keep trying to entice us to look at shit to where you actually contribute something yourself. it'll be a lot better for you.
16:38 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 19:53 ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform reliable info just meaning a look at the situation from an area of the btc world that isn't full of shit - HERE being the only place I trust... and re: "no right time to be in it" I am assuming you mean having control of private keys at all times and that if I am really interested in trading in a "reliable" way that I should be doing it here?, via WOT channels? or am I in outerspace herE?
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18:55 deedbot http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1927 << Loper OS - The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
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20:13 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-26#1743205 << IPKVM, obviously.
20:13 a111 Logged on 2017-11-26 23:55 deedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1927 << Loper OS - The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM
20:13 asciilifeform for 4k?!?!!
20:13 mircea_popescu i don't think anyone uses kvm in the sense you use it.
20:14 asciilifeform it's a box, that at one time was sold everywhere, and worked with the gear of the time
20:14 asciilifeform 1 display <-> n comps
20:14 asciilifeform with hand toggle
20:15 mircea_popescu it's a box, which was once driven by the needs of people offering ISP services, which was consequently sold everywhere and which you picked up and used in your own way. meanwhile the people that drove the kvm item moved on, leaving you stranded. because how you use it and how they use it were never fundamentally the same, just briefly appeared that way.
20:15 asciilifeform 0 to do with the isp item (ipkvm) -- wholly different gadget that suffers from misfortunately collided name.
20:16 asciilifeform used to operate moar comps in a room than there is room for consoles.
20:16 mircea_popescu not at all. kvm item appeared to serve the isp market, not the alf market.
20:16 asciilifeform http://content.us.dlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/DKVM4Ksidesitecore.png << conventional 1990s (vga) kvm, for reference. 0 connection to isp remote kvm
20:16 mircea_popescu obviously 1990s tech will not reference 2010 tech wtf nonsense is this.
20:17 mircea_popescu that "conventiona 1990 vga kvm" EXISTS so that people in the noc can look at their god damned comps
20:17 mircea_popescu not so you can do pcb layouting
20:17 asciilifeform kvm apparently even deader than asciilifeform thought, if mircea_popescu managed to entirely forget that it existed.
20:17 mircea_popescu jesus christ.
20:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the only place i ever used one, in the 90s, WAS IN DATACENTER. not at your fucking house.
20:18 asciilifeform and yes i had massive one when i was a bofh. 32 holes. and yes these still sold.
20:18 asciilifeform ( 32 vga hole. )
20:20 asciilifeform i suspect that mircea_popescu is right in re why the hand-cranked items sold today are still vga-only -- they are for use of gnomes, in the mines.
20:20 asciilifeform ( why remote-controlled box is vga-only is not a mystery )
20:21 mircea_popescu right.
20:22 mircea_popescu nobody even had a decent monitor in the whole fucking noc. half of them at that point still fuckling tandys or whatever the fuck bicolor cgas.
20:23 asciilifeform today you'll see folx use rack mount lcd, slides out sorta like an oven door
20:23 mircea_popescu yes, but not ideal (gotta go over to the box).
20:23 asciilifeform ( if you ever wonder where surplus 1990s tft panels go -- they went to make these. )
20:24 asciilifeform right, they're used for per-rack hand-cranked sweat -- sorta like those rack-mount rotary phones one sees in photos of old pbxen
20:25 mircea_popescu i wonder if ppl even have any fucking clue WHY it's "~dial~ tone".
20:25 asciilifeform folx who never pulsedialed -- likely not
20:25 mircea_popescu comes, originally, when this newfanged tech was new and needed a name, from a different item that was common curriculum and meanwhile disappeared
20:25 mircea_popescu the SUNDIAL.
20:26 asciilifeform sundial still lives, wat
20:26 mircea_popescu where ?
20:26 asciilifeform there's one not far from asciilifeform
20:26 mircea_popescu see if anyone can read it.
20:26 * mircea_popescu lived this recently, very elegant vertical 1920s style item, on wall. "what interesting art" "it's a fucking sundial" "a what ?!"
20:27 asciilifeform next mircea_popescu will say that modern anglo kidz dun laugh at the wrist-sundials in 'flintstone' cartoon.
20:27 mircea_popescu (phone was new and needed name... in the 80s. the other 80s.)
20:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i say.
20:27 asciilifeform nuts.
20:30 asciilifeform but indeed goes back to subj of thread, asciilifeform is stuck with 1880s state of the art, i.e. plugboard, for switching console b/w boxen, in a room where there is simply nomoar wall to hang moar lcd onto.
20:31 asciilifeform ( why not over ip ? well for starters not all of the boxes have nics. or run an os that knows what is a nic ! )
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20:50 mircea_popescu you know back in the day she worked for the usaf, chet had a buncha crap systems that had to interop, ended up plugging them all on a hunk of wood to switch manually ?
20:50 asciilifeform i can picture.
20:50 mircea_popescu there's nothing more perennial than 1880s tech, in the 1960s as in the 2010
20:50 mircea_popescu back then everything came with its own apple-style keyboard etc, nothing fucking worked. subtly.
20:51 asciilifeform i suppose the only thing remaining after 1880s plugboard is the final rock bottom : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-25#643498
20:51 a111 Logged on 2014-04-25 20:09 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did you ever encounter the tale of 'подвиг радиста' as schoolboy?
20:52 asciilifeform ( http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-25#643502 )
20:52 a111 Logged on 2014-04-25 20:09 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.stalingrad-battle.ru/images/stories/ris42.jpg
20:52 mircea_popescu heh.
20:52 mircea_popescu !#s ecaterina teodoroiu
20:52 a111 0 results for "ecaterina teodoroiu", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=ecaterina%20teodoroiu
20:53 mircea_popescu ^ ww1 machinegunner woman.
20:53 asciilifeform ( and i gotta disagree re 'nothing fucking worked, subtly' -- things fucking didn'twork ~honestly~ and in plain daylight. it's today that they dysfunction subtly.)
20:54 mircea_popescu to hear the woman retell it, it was more a case of ww2 russian materiel, "we made a buncha duds so now we're gonna call this a new standard rather than throw them out"
20:55 asciilifeform https://archive.is/M0rJY << notbad.jpg
20:56 mircea_popescu i thought youy'd like!
20:56 * asciilifeform likes.
20:57 asciilifeform 'Inainte baieti, nu va lasati, sunteti cu mine! Inainte! Razbunati-ma!'
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20:58 mircea_popescu dja know how despicable faggots of the interwar (such as, eminently, bedwetter blair) were "indignant" at "the cruel and violent sport of boxing" especially because "of how it makes a minority of women behave" ?
20:59 mircea_popescu fucking scum of all time, those are the only women anyone even wants!
20:59 asciilifeform afaik just him, i know of no other source for the item
20:59 mircea_popescu "not when anyone's three year old" "yes, well."
20:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i heard it pluriously, much like the whole "if men just went out to rape and pillage there'd be ANARCHY!!!1"
20:59 mircea_popescu "and other bad things!!! all the bad things!!!"
21:00 mircea_popescu or the exact equivalent, "if there were no state THE WORLD WOULD END!1111"
21:00 mircea_popescu it's this diffuse mula-dom.
21:01 asciilifeform i suspect some mentally weak folx have problems with abstraction. i.e. ~his~ 'world will end' and thereby somehow 'world will end'
21:01 mircea_popescu you don't say.
21:02 mircea_popescu arabs believed "if one doesn't believe in god, no matter which as long as one" world also ends. looked at me as you'd look at something thart crawled out of black hole.
21:02 mircea_popescu "BUT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE!! I USED THE JUICE!!!"
21:03 asciilifeform similar reaction if you invite an american d00d into a house with no tv set
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21:03 asciilifeform 'but where is it!'
21:03 mircea_popescu for srs.
21:03 mircea_popescu anyway, i suppose this is the proper definition of divinity.
21:03 mircea_popescu "spurious item which the superficial mind regards as the universal underpinning of existence"
21:04 mircea_popescu usian can not comprehend existence unless tv explains it to him ("how does the news relate to me?!?!"), arab hasta have the allah basis, socialist needs the state to, conceptually, assuage his existential anxieties and so following.
21:05 * asciilifeform suspects that sufficiently advanced cases of 'homo americanus' don't actually require existence to have, in their heads, an underpinning at all. but asciilifeform has not sufficient entomological field experience, to say if this is a thing yet.
21:05 mircea_popescu je n'ai pas eu besoin de cette hypothese a lot more radical than originally thought.
21:06 asciilifeform wai wasn't that herr newton
21:07 asciilifeform or did it happen that he actually said it in fr
21:07 mircea_popescu laplace.
21:08 asciilifeform that'd explain.
21:08 mircea_popescu amusingly, he was "french newton"
21:08 asciilifeform sorta.
21:20 asciilifeform meanwhile in the idjit pit, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1927&cpage=1#comment-18295
21:22 mircea_popescu you're too hard on the general public.
21:23 asciilifeform see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-20#1727334
21:23 a111 Logged on 2017-10-20 19:29 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-20#1727313 << you'd be fucking surprised how often this is the case. "hello sir, this is bank, it just doesn't do any banking, problem ?"
21:24 asciilifeform 'we're all out of prime rib, but wouldntcha like some maggot by the pound ? we have all the maggots you could use!'
21:24 asciilifeform 'how is it not the same thing!'
21:25 mircea_popescu heh.
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21:57 * BingoBoingo counting down the days left of winter
22:07 asciilifeform for BingoBoingo not so much left of this winter!
22:07 BingoBoingo Aha
22:08 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Do you have a coup flying day set yet?
22:08 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nope.
22:09 BingoBoingo Still worried about .ro language write head, or ?
22:10 asciilifeform it, and that ticker need to go some moar up.
22:12 * BingoBoingo forgets alf has to care/feed/bed the pet
22:13 asciilifeform pet is by far the easiest part.
22:13 asciilifeform pet is a second pair of hands and in fact eats not so much.
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22:49 mircea_popescu in other news, "come play with me" (1977) is such a confusing piece of nonsense...
23:04 mircea_popescu meanwhhile in healthy youth, http://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4vrx26LgH1rvqneyo1_1280.jpg
23:14 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9648
23:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wassat 4u box thing in the back..?
23:18 mircea_popescu KVM!!!1
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