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00:10 billymg hmm, ok makes sense
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00:41 mp_en_viaje "Additionally the fact that none of
00:41 mp_en_viaje these syndicates have been seriously disrupted over the last five years provides an
00:41 mp_en_viaje insight into the effectiveness of their networks."
00:42 mp_en_viaje hurr durr. reading the vomit of "statal actors" is pretty fucking disturbingly like reading http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-nine/#selection-167.12-171.94
00:42 mp_en_viaje extremely incompetent yet extremely ambitious, sorta nonsense that screams for a sound trashing.
00:43 mp_en_viaje "scoping exercise". hurr.
00:51 mp_en_viaje http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912900 << keks no, most ro bois work "in it". ~10k/year.
00:51 a111 Logged on 2019-05-13 03:49 asciilifeform: arguably it comes down to a stupid choice of profession. the software pseudo-industry only really exists in the reich + its tendrils, afaik.
00:54 mp_en_viaje anyway, it comes down to very entrenched management ineptitude. guy wants to do what he wants to do not what he must do, has complicated, patiently constructed over time (through selection, much like how species appear) list of explanations/justifications.
00:55 mp_en_viaje this coupled with a very myopic perception of outside reality, whereby the closer inconveniences are always overcounted and structural problems systematically discounted yield a very stable situation : he sits in the worst part of the us, complains about it, and will sit there until the day he dies.
00:57 mp_en_viaje consider for elucidation the model of an android, which for our didactic needs is a) very intelligent ; b) doesn't need to physically eat ; c) is required to appear to the common human as a common human.
00:59 mp_en_viaje the process then becomes evident : c requires it to occasionally engage in the activity of eating, but the "whilst some have been driven by organisational necessity, for example, finite resources." problem, to quote the united knelliot, precludes buying kitchen equipment or raw materials.
01:00 mp_en_viaje what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do ; but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available.
01:01 mp_en_viaje the net result is a "very intelligent' android that's obviously an android to ~everyone in the biz of spotting androids, but who otherwise claims to be hungry and making eternal plans to restaurant meals that ever justifiedly do not occur.
01:02 mp_en_viaje in the end, it's an all-in bet on reich stability. like everyone else in there.
01:06 mp_en_viaje from an engineering perspective, the strategy's "too tight", fails at what could be described as "useful waste". the sort of activity like going on an aimless walk, or talking to an unknown woman, or playing a few rounds of three card monte with some guy on the street.
01:07 mp_en_viaje there's a very marked difference between the people who know it's a scam -- and therefore ~NEVER~ indulge and the people who know it's a scam and yet very occasionally indulge. the difference's the former are "well educated" engineers, whereas the latter "illegal"
01:08 mp_en_viaje (think about the example -- the fellow running it has been doing it for a while, very readily spots that you
01:09 mp_en_viaje ~are aware~ it's a scam. now it suddenly costs him more to figure out wtf you're doing than it costs you to play. sometimes this occurs to him, in which case you sudden;y got a conection in the local underground.)
01:17 mp_en_viaje that sorta thing's how http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729820 sorta items are born.
01:17 a111 Logged on 2017-10-27 17:56 mircea_popescu: anyway, no theorems isn't it. there's that famous case of my driver whom my mother (who was bumming a ride) asked in shock why'd he'd go around playing valet for a 17yo. he said something like "not everyone's a big deal". man had 0 theorems to prove, but also didn't go around deluding himself on the matter.
01:31 asciilifeform i kept waiting for the inevitable prikoke cite. where is it 1!!
01:39 mp_en_viaje imo fundamentally different item.
01:40 mp_en_viaje prikoke == <XRevan86> asciilifeform: I'll stay sceptical for now.
01:44 mp_en_viaje this "sceptical" is very much the same story as afanti's [aka nasreddin] engagedment to teach the local baron's singing in a year, on the theory that "i am hungry now -- who knows what will be in a year". he's skeptical as to the future. you're not, you have a theory as to the future, the difficulties are in the implementation.
01:44 mp_en_viaje engagedment to teach the local baron's singing <-> engagement to teach the local baron's donkey singing. check out the impacted d[onkey].
01:48 * asciilifeform to bed, but promises to continue this thrd laters
01:50 mp_en_viaje nn
~ 5 hours 56 minutes ~
07:46 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-10#1912257 << i can corroborate the sentiment, i didn't get to see the parade directly, but saw all the activity around it
07:46 a111 Logged on 2019-05-10 00:41 asciilifeform: i wonder if phf got to see parade.
07:46 lobbesbot phf: Sent 17 hours and 38 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to snarf sig in http://bvt-trace.net/2019/05/unrolled-assembly-comba/ ( and diana_coman 's earlier ) at your earliest , into btcbase, ty
07:48 phf buses full of waving soldiers, some heavy machinery here and there, crazed MVD people driving at high speed through the city for seemingly no other reason than to go fast, people with flags and portraits
07:51 phf it was probably the most engaged of all the celebrations i've seen here. we went to a hookah place, a kind of popular bar/restaurant: the staff were dressed in "military" outfits, there was a bunch of tables full of men eating and drinking vodka, making toasts to the fallen heroes and dead relatives
07:52 phf i didn't bother taking camera with me, because i didn't expect there to be any activity besides the parade, but the city was in full celebration mode
07:54 mp_en_viaje so moral being, always take camera.
08:01 phf i have a dslr that i got off somebody as debt repayment, which ended up putting me into a silly lock: it's heavy and not something you just grab with you, on the other hand i don't want to buy a smaller camera "since i already have dslr and i should sell it first", but then i also don't want to deal with selling it
08:02 phf i ought to just pick up that sony you've mentioned
08:10 mp_en_viaje yeah, exactly why i didn't get a dslr mysle.f
08:11 mp_en_viaje was considering it at some point. but the idea is for it to serve me, not the other way around.
08:11 mp_en_viaje anyway, what's the proble mwith selling it, put it on ebay for a buck, ship to whoever ends up winning bidding war, done.
~ 2 hours 53 minutes ~
11:05 asciilifeform in other noose, amd 'family 22' cpu (i.e. where they introduced fritz core in 2013) has obvious breakage in 'usg.random' instruction (also introduced then, in footsteps of intel) : https://archive.is/BMJwJ
11:06 asciilifeform !#s rdrand
11:06 a111 11 results for "rdrand", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=rdrand
11:09 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912942 << i had one at 1 pt, sold it for the described reason and bought what is nao known as 'mp cam' in 2011. but earlier this yr retired it in favour of a recently introduced thing that is sorta in between the two, has removable lens but around half the mass of typical dslr.
11:09 a111 Logged on 2019-05-13 12:10 mp_en_viaje: yeah, exactly why i didn't get a dslr mysle.f
11:10 asciilifeform also sony, 'a6000', inexpensive. ( anyone thinking of trying it should be aware that the included lens is mediocre however. but it does take vintage lenses of various vendors via adapter. )
11:10 mp_en_viaje also depends a lot what you do. if you car everywhere, even a tripod in the back may work. if you hands-in-pockets and walk, might even be too bulky.
11:11 mp_en_viaje for me it's a sweetspot of "fits in slavegirl purse".
11:11 asciilifeform this one is approx. the size of the ubiquitous '30s leicas
11:11 asciilifeform worx great w/out legs, too, has electro-stabilizer.
11:12 asciilifeform (just like the 'mp cam' )
11:12 asciilifeform depending on size of slave purse, may even fit in one.
11:13 asciilifeform example shots : http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2913#selection-298.1-362.3 << via stock lens with 2 chinese extender rings ('miser's macro lens')
11:20 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912936 << supposedly something like 1000 dour emigres showed up with portraits in dc. but i did not see with own eyes.
11:20 a111 Logged on 2019-05-13 11:48 phf: buses full of waving soldiers, some heavy machinery here and there, crazed MVD people driving at high speed through the city for seemingly no other reason than to go fast, people with flags and portraits
11:24 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912941 << if you like can have mine for cost of postage. pgpgram where to send it. i think i have a few spare batteries and external charger for'em also, somewhere
11:24 a111 Logged on 2019-05-13 12:02 phf: i ought to just pick up that sony you've mentioned
11:26 * asciilifeform has become fond of this method of unloading idle irons.
11:27 asciilifeform would rather put in hands of l1 than sell for twobux on ebay and enrich omidyar et al
11:28 * asciilifeform brb,teatime
11:42 mp_en_viaje it's pretty smart, in that it keeps the marginal value within republican walls.
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12:49 asciilifeform aha, that's the idea
12:50 asciilifeform i have other 'surplus' gear also, for folx who have a use; e.g. a 'icestick' (ice40 '4k' (half-size)) proto-board, buncha similars, at some pt i'll make list
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13:09 asciilifeform meanwhile , in ru heathendom , (translation mine) : 'there is a sign that distinguishes a troo programmer from an impostor. a true programmer , before going to bed, will put on his nightstand two glasses. one with water -- in case in the night he becomes thirsty. and one empty -- in case not.'
13:10 mp_en_viaje you were gonna make an inventory at some point, iirc.
13:11 asciilifeform aha. may have to wait for next change of flat / excavations, sadly
13:12 asciilifeform let's put this way : if asciilifeform's dwelling were a sokoban level, i am not certain it would be a winnable level..
13:13 mp_en_viaje lol i suspected.
13:14 asciilifeform as often happens, mp_en_viaje suspects correctly.
13:14 mp_en_viaje in other lulz : my ro lawyer came to me ~this sunday~, to return archived papers.
13:15 mp_en_viaje the place he had them stored in, he got just about the time i was leaving. so my box was in the bottom of the pit. "i must've been thinner then", he says, cuz well... couldn't get into there. eventuslly managed to squeeze in, sideways, but then, once got box... couldn't get back out.
13:15 mp_en_viaje had to call his clerk to come from his office, to extract him.
13:15 mp_en_viaje so he went to market, bought materials, rebuilt his storage there.
13:15 asciilifeform if it's the same fella asciilifeform met, i can picture this scene
13:15 mp_en_viaje thus by the time he was knocking at my door ~2pm, he had been working for 8 hours
13:16 mp_en_viaje dood woke at 6am to get my my papers. on a sunday.
13:16 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, aha.
13:16 asciilifeform a++ excavator. nao if he'd learn to pgp...
13:17 mp_en_viaje anyway, to me it was very amusing because, on one hand, "hey nicoleci , where in chicago do i hire lawyer like this" and on the other hand, HOLY SHIT, it's not just computer programmer who goes to turn down volume and is there for two days rewriting the os.
13:17 mp_en_viaje IT'S EVERYBODY!
13:17 asciilifeform ( iirc he was not only lawyer but licensed accountant also. bright fella. dunno why resistant to pgp. )
13:17 mp_en_viaje if you're serious rather than just floating by, every fucking task or thing escalates 4ever
13:18 asciilifeform this -- verily
13:19 mp_en_viaje nah, wife does accountng.
13:19 asciilifeform aa
13:19 mp_en_viaje closest to a functional fambly you ever saw, he has some helpers, she has some helpettes, it's like...
13:20 asciilifeform i saw several of these, we sat for a while tryin' to come up with synthetic language to speak lol
13:22 asciilifeform also funnily, when going there , asciilifeform went in wrong door, ended up in some sorta gurlz' dormitory. labyrinth of unlit hallways; knocked on several doors and faced with surprised orc chix in bathrobes etc
13:22 mp_en_viaje and this suggested nothing to you ? :D
13:23 asciilifeform it suggested 'fuck i'm late' lol
13:23 mp_en_viaje as ye olde deckard cain would say, "shtay a while... and listen..."
13:23 asciilifeform 'stay a while.. stay FOREVER!' -- 'mission impossible' game intro on c64
13:26 mp_en_viaje ehehe
13:28 mp_en_viaje THIS, however, is as fine example of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912917 as could be had. gypsy boy'd have stayed. atm i suspect that's your exact opposite.
13:28 a111 Logged on 2019-05-13 05:00 mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do ; but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available.
13:28 asciilifeform gypsy can do amazing things. iirc mp_en_viaje described, how the half-built palaces asciilifeform saw in timis, were built by'em
13:28 asciilifeform 'shoot 1st, ask q's later'
13:28 asciilifeform 'oops we ran outta dough to build roof'
13:29 mp_en_viaje aha.
13:31 asciilifeform when i saw these, i was certain they had to be ruins (of the ru '90s 'walls carefully disassembled by scavengers' sort) -- but apparently not
13:32 asciilifeform although, next to that hotel i was in ( same 1 mp_en_viaje held c2 in ) , gigantic and apparently abandoned glass box bldg was having its roof methodically cut by scavengers with torches, quietly loaded each piece on truck and vanished before nightfall
13:32 diana_coman they are new ruins! our ruins are newer and shinier than theirs!
13:33 asciilifeform lol recall albert speer's 'ruins theory' aha
13:35 asciilifeform later dug and found that that place was Officially for sale on www, for 'paltry mil bux', w/ no mention of 'dun come with roof'; so inferred that roof was 'unofficially' sold..
13:36 asciilifeform or , fuck even knows, roof sold 'legit', and www listing a sham
13:36 asciilifeform impossible to tell w/out retaining a skilled orcologist
13:38 asciilifeform re the gypsy palaces, oblig photo -- http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743485
13:38 a111 Logged on 2017-11-28 00:02 asciilifeform: other typical items : http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_mansion_2.jpg http://www.loper-os.org/pub/timis_sad_factory.jpg
13:40 asciilifeform diana_coman: did they have this in your corner of ro ? ( when in bucharest, asciilifeform saw also ruins, and gigantic dead factories, but no torch d00dz , instead all overgrown with vines, trees through roof etc )
13:41 asciilifeform i suspect in bucharest the locals are moar preoccupied with finding 'sugar' jobs at microshit tentacle and saving up for miami
13:45 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1912999 << mp_en_viaje i have to plead 'guilty' to this. asciilifeform when younger many times 'went for broke', pawned shirt, and -- lost shirt. so has roughly same pov as bedouin has re water.
13:45 a111 Logged on 2019-05-13 17:28 a111: Logged on 2019-05-13 05:00 mp_en_viaje: what's left is then going to the restaurant, which the android agrees to do ; but at every single juncture where an actual going to a restaurant could occur, the urgent disadvantage of immediate expenditure overwhelms the general principles flowing from c -- through an a-mediated process that slowly improves the quality of "arguments" brought over time under the selection pressure provided by a + whatever ourside source available.
13:46 lobbes yea, but
13:46 lobbes oops
13:46 lobbes went for broke in the reich, no?
13:46 mp_en_viaje yes. but the polar opposite strategy of something that hurt ain' ttherefore gonna work
13:47 asciilifeform ( iirc outlined in old thrds, e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1661113 )
13:47 a111 Logged on 2017-05-24 21:57 asciilifeform: i'd be barfing harder if i hadn't 'seen this exact movie before', with ye olde robot
13:47 mp_en_viaje if it did, all the reaction lesbians and transgenders'd be happy
13:48 asciilifeform nao this is troo. hence why took up the piz matter
13:48 asciilifeform if not risk anything, why to live.
13:51 mp_en_viaje something like that.
13:51 mp_en_viaje how's pizarro doing these days btw
13:52 asciilifeform waiting for asciilifeform to free hands, grr
13:53 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-27#1905113 << speaking of hands, pizarro, and hopping the fence: so what'd be the plan here? Get a republican hardware shop up and running in uruguay? Or perhaps have a second pair of hands on ground to help with pizarro affairs?
13:53 a111 Logged on 2019-03-27 17:23 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (i kinda suspect BingoBoingo would do a lot better with a partner on the grounds, tbh) << I suspect similar
13:54 lobbes I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
13:54 asciilifeform lobbes: immediate next item is a pilot plant of 'apu1' and x64 boxen, so as to have what to rent out, we're at ~capacity
13:55 asciilifeform lobbes: i will not go as far as to say 'hardware shop? poppycock' but it is roughly similar to idea of setting one up on the moon
13:56 asciilifeform the difficulty of getting iron over the fence isn't even the worst thing, but rather 'who's to buy'
13:56 asciilifeform the idjit orcs want 'ipnoje', and that's afaik it
13:57 lobbes hm, yeah, I guess so. Same as in usg; all independent harware shops disappearing
13:58 asciilifeform i can't speak for erry type of orc, but in BingoBoingostan they aint even certain re what to do with ~mains current~, much less computer ( these are the people who set up indoor gas grills to cook dinner )
13:59 BingoBoingo <mp_en_viaje> how's pizarro doing these days btw << Waiting for alf hands. In the interim about to send invoices.
13:59 asciilifeform lobbes: i used to frequent such shops. they're all gone nao. from elementary 'giant sat in the chair' dynamic.
13:59 asciilifeform nobody who has to pay to upkeep a shop, can price-compete with lulazon, lulzbay, etc
14:03 mp_en_viaje the idea is of course to foster communities, rather than try and find communities t o exploit.
14:03 mp_en_viaje granted, this is a toilsome approach.
14:04 asciilifeform rright, esp. if what you've to work with, is ~argentines
14:04 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> i can't speak for erry type of orc, but in BingoBoingostan they aint even certain re what to do with ~mains current~, much less computer ( these are the people who set up indoor gas grills to cook dinner ) << Well in their language they call the mains "luz" so it does the lights.
14:04 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: funnily enuff old sovok folx also
14:05 asciilifeform mains flicker off, 'свет пропал' ( light has gone! )
14:05 BingoBoingo Electric utility's headquarters naturally is "Palacio de la Luz"
14:11 * BingoBoingo inclined to see if bicycle guy can handle this month's Datacenter payment in light of the growing divide between Republican exchange rate and heathen exchange rate
14:11 mp_en_viaje one can pick his orc, of course.
14:12 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, i got gas stove here. what's wrong with that ?
14:13 BingoBoingo Here they use the tanks inside. The pipe cas network is tiny with little coverage.
14:13 mp_en_viaje camping@home!
14:13 BingoBoingo "Supergas" they call it
14:13 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: aha BingoBoingo already answr'd. they're using bottled gas
14:14 asciilifeform and apparently their hands grow from arse , regularly set flat on fire
14:14 BingoBoingo Campfire for heat. Camp stove for cook...
14:14 mp_en_viaje minisuper gas or plainly super gas ?
14:14 mp_en_viaje luzliest thing in latam, all sorta mini-super
14:14 BingoBoingo Mundanely super gas
14:14 mp_en_viaje somewhat super could we say.
14:15 BingoBoingo I've not dealth with the stuff much here. Habitation module has electric stove built in.
14:19 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913031 << If you've got some hands what Pizarro can really use is help on the outreach and conversion front. I'd also suggest making a run to Uruguay before picking Uruguay as your escape hole.
14:19 a111 Logged on 2019-05-13 17:54 lobbes: I've been doing some hard thinking lately, about what I want in life, and about how I'm way too content with my current living situation in the reich. The problem is that man can indeed be content ~anywhere. Nevertheless, I find myself being sucked closer and closer to the intake of the mass chumpatron. My time, my money, my sanity, slowly but surely slipping away with each day
14:27 lobbes I may indeed take some time in the next months to make a trip down there at least. If anything to clear my head and sort some things out (plus, I've never met another Republican in the meat, so there is also that plus)
14:33 BingoBoingo <mp_en_viaje> luzliest thing in latam, all sorta mini-super << I believe the sight that most excited ben_vulpes down here was "Supermercado Winn-Dixie"
14:33 mp_en_viaje lol
14:34 BingoBoingo lobbes: Well, if you want beaches November to Early December is the time. Late January on into the summer heat makes the cyanobacteria bloom. Late December to Mid January is the tourist high season.
14:42 lobbes growing up near beaches, I got bored of them fast; can take em or leave em. and with my pale complexion the idea of visiting uruguay in the cooler months actually sounds nice
14:42 mp_en_viaje who was talking about living off tourist cunny anyways ?
14:43 mp_en_viaje week or two ago.
14:43 BingoBoingo whaack was
14:43 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-02#1910907
14:43 a111 Logged on 2019-05-02 18:07 whaack: I picked Tamarindo mostly because of the convenience of it being near Liberia and having what I initially wanted: a decent nightlife, surf spots, gringo friendly atmosphere
14:44 diana_coman http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-13#1913013 -> not exactly *that* style afaik though some "new ruins" exist; as do old and then older ruins too; basically have your choice of ruins, year and style.
14:44 a111 Logged on 2019-05-13 17:40 asciilifeform: diana_coman: did they have this in your corner of ro ? ( when in bucharest, asciilifeform saw also ruins, and gigantic dead factories, but no torch d00dz , instead all overgrown with vines, trees through roof etc )
14:44 asciilifeform nobody can beat europistan for ruins..
14:45 asciilifeform esp. 'post-sovok' lands
14:46 diana_coman well, Romanians basically had the germans imported precisely to build some towns finally so in those terms ruins other than the roman ones are relatively recent anyway.
14:47 BingoBoingo In local news fuckers are preparing to start importing live cattle from Brasil to feed the domestic market, and these same fuckers are lamenting how "expensive" Uruguay's beef is. https://www.elobservador.com.uy/nota/uruguay-a-un-paso-de-importar-ganado-en-pie-desde-brasil-2019513145826
14:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: feedlot, naturally ?
14:48 asciilifeform 'giant' dun ever stop looking for new, yet-unbroken chairs to sit down in, eh
14:48 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: unsure about the feedlot part, but Brasil does the Zebu cattle.
14:48 asciilifeform wassat?
14:49 BingoBoingo The Indian kind that takes the heat up there better
14:49 asciilifeform a
14:51 asciilifeform there's a sov-legend re how hrusch send to cuba a boat of cows, as gift. unsurprisingly -- all died within weeks, not being of a breed that can stomach the tropics. then coupla yrs later on official visit, gromyko asks to see the herd. is told 'they cannot take the sun, we pasture'em at night'. skeptical, but let matter drop.
14:55 BingoBoingo A number of the policy wank locals find it "problematic" Uruguay's beef is more expensive than Brazil et al's beef completely neglecting Uruguay's beef sells as the premium product since Argentina fucked theirs up.
15:01 mp_en_viaje right, whaack
15:04 mp_en_viaje BingoBoingo, tbh sounds like cattle laundering scheme.
15:05 mp_en_viaje get veals, feedlot in brazil, export to uruguay, keep 3-6 months, bucher and sell as uy non-feedlot.
15:07 asciilifeform when and where no lord to round up the culprits an' pour molten lead down their throats, this kinda thing is as inevitable as sawdust bread, i suspect
15:08 BingoBoingo Supposedly the imported cattle are going to be sold domestic market only, but the fact it so very obviously sounds like a cattle laundering scheme makes the idea retarded.
15:08 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i suspect it's an 'already doing' being presented as 'idea'
15:11 BingoBoingo Possible
15:11 asciilifeform consider, also, a feedlot is moar or less an omnidirectional biowarfare laboratory. proper lord would carpet bomb'em when found.
15:13 asciilifeform ditto 'battery chicken' etc
15:13 BingoBoingo Brazil is roughly on par with the US when it comes to such agricrimes.
15:14 asciilifeform 'tis funny, to asciilifeform , lotsa whining re sub-measurable leaks from nuke plants, ~0 whine re 'feed meat antibiotic by the tonne'
15:14 BingoBoingo "Chicken in every pot" What the fuck did the pot do to deserve a chicken
15:16 asciilifeform rright, a chicken in erry indoor propane grill lol
~ 19 minutes ~
15:36 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, you gotta get a gram by prescription, feedlot can get literal tonne.
15:36 asciilifeform aaha
15:38 asciilifeform elementarily could not have 'feedlot' without this , would simply turn into gangrenous mass in short time
15:39 mp_en_viaje in other lulz, https://pubpress.net/houseads/2017/11/22/hiring/house/en/300x250_mrec_blue_php01.png
15:40 asciilifeform ugh
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16:31 feedbot http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html << The Tar Pit -- Temeschwar
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16:57 asciilifeform ^ lol almost exactly asciilifeform's photoroll, if you subtract the 'hinterlands' (where imho the most interesting oddities)
16:58 asciilifeform http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html#selection-523.0-523.215 << even i know answr to this riddle -- it's because timis is in austria-hungary , and not really ro at all
16:59 asciilifeform line on map moved, is all
17:00 asciilifeform http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/08f-timisoara.html#selection-531.0-531.297 << holyfuq. asciilifeform was leaving, thought 'hm, oughta have tried the trams, are they same as on home planet -- oughta be, given as all of our trams were imported from ro' but apparently nodice
17:15 asciilifeform the notion of 'members only' tram, is so preposterous, that i suspect outright sabotage, a la 1960s usa (where various skulduggery resulted in the complete disappearance of the tram -- and in certain places , of ~all public transport -- to prop up 'auto industry' )
17:16 asciilifeform ( today's familiar 'office jerb -- mortgaged house -- car on credit' triangle, as documented by orlov, was being constructed then )
17:20 asciilifeform planned and successfully-executed re-introduction of serfdom. public transport had to die first, 'or plebs could go without car'. then, cities had to be turned into bmore darkest africa, to nail the possibility of living close enuff to 'office' to walk. and so on.
17:22 asciilifeform 'tis hilarious, this seq. of amputations. the capitalists, terrified of urban unionized workers, abolished... industry, and work. ( replaced with 'office plankton' system. ) result is present-day usgistan.
17:24 asciilifeform i.e. they took http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-07#747451 for an instruction manual !
17:24 a111 Logged on 2014-07-07 11:21 mircea_popescu: ay by the industries of Catalonia and the Basque Country. For Spain to be made healthy, they have to be destroyed. The German Chief of Staff Wolfram von Richthofen listened thunderstruck then recited to Mola all the reasons why it was madness to destroy a country’s industrial base, telling him that ‘I have never in my life heard such idiocy’
17:28 asciilifeform an' they didn't do it to http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-07#747456 , either, cuz 'ohnoez, agro-peasants also could be 'red'! '
17:28 a111 Logged on 2014-07-07 11:23 mircea_popescu: mola wanted his sons to go riding in a field where pretty girls labored with their hands forever.
17:29 asciilifeform so no moar workers, no moar peasants, instead homo redditus subsisting off arse-mouth system .
17:34 asciilifeform curious folx, the anglos. it's almost as if they consciously went for a slow-motion poincare scheme.
17:34 a111 Logged on 2012-11-19 07:25 mircea_popescu: "the end of human suffering can never be a policy goal because the easiest way to achieve it is to just kill everyone"
17:34 * asciilifeform brb:meat
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18:50 asciilifeform meanwhile in olds : a pretty good likbez re capacitor rot .
18:50 a111 Logged on 2019-05-11 22:39 asciilifeform: i wouldn't bother 'recapping' a 100bux konsoomer board, typically
18:51 asciilifeform in particular interesting detail , being that 'capacitance meter' may still show in-spec value for dead unit (which perished in such a way that only ~impedance~ has increased)
18:57 asciilifeform meanwhile, in unsorted lulz, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568&cpage=4#comment-19789
19:00 asciilifeform at some pt ('in peacetime!'(tm)) asciilifeform is gonna have to crib mp_en_viaje's 'recent comments' wp feature.
19:02 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/05/sweden-to-put-in-a-competing-assange-extradition-claim/ << Qntra -- Sweden To Put In A Competing Assange Extradition Claim
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