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00:00 mod6 i'll keep working on it, might be an env related thing.
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00:44 mircea_popescu mod6 try on a vps or something standard ? just to get a comparison point ?
00:45 mircea_popescu in other meanwhiles, http://68.media.tumblr.com/065c29f21ca1136b25c325a67b81696a/tumblr_o1syt4y8Ze1uycyh2o1_500.gif
00:55 BingoBoingo Talk about a shocker!
00:55 mircea_popescu mass innervation, she just arcs.
00:59 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=7550
01:04 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=7575&pr=1
01:08 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=7573&pr=1
01:08 mircea_popescu can't say i can argue with his "not even human".
01:14 mod6 mircea_popescu: yah, will report back after i try some diff envs. etc. thx!
01:15 mircea_popescu could be just some random env stupidity, which from experience can eat a dozen dev hours for entirely n ogood reason. "nobody'd have thought of that"
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06:00 deedbot http://danielpbarron.com/2017/move-bundles-to-container-when-training/ << Daniel P. Barron - Move Bundles to Container When Training
~ 2 hours 39 minutes ~
08:39 mircea_popescu aaand in the random relulz of today, http://trilema.com/2014/the-lulz-of-today-ddos-attacks-ransom-notes-tor-anonimity-and-other-faits-darmes-of-the-retarded-generation/
08:49 mircea_popescu !!up asciilifeform
08:49 deedbot asciilifeform voiced for 30 minutes.
08:49 asciilifeform ty
08:49 mircea_popescu sure.
08:50 asciilifeform http://www.randomsanity.org << faux phuctor -- by, apparently, no less than gavin.
08:50 * asciilifeform spent good chunk of yesterday at sea
08:50 mircea_popescu "Get an array of 64 bytes from whatever source of cryptographically-secure randomness you are using. Encode them as hex, and make a REST query to the randomsanity service. The service will return ‘true’ if it those bytes look random and nobody else has submitted the same stream of bytes; otherwise it will return ‘false’."
08:50 mircea_popescu aaaahahahaha
08:50 * asciilifeform bbl.
08:51 mircea_popescu holy shit. how can the doofus be this fucking stupid.
08:51 mircea_popescu o look, " luke macken has created a systemd startup script"
08:52 mircea_popescu he's going to tell you if your bits are random!!! because randomnesity is a property of the actual bits. this is sanity nao.
08:54 shinohai omfg this"Random Sanity" thing is too rich.
08:54 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/no-such-labs-snsa-april-2017-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), April 2017 Statement
08:56 mircea_popescu im qntraing,
08:59 Framedragger mircea_popescu: just curious, how are there "parallels with BitBet's misadventures last year about this time"? the "dead recokining" accounting standard?
09:01 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/WpkQY/?raw=true
09:02 mircea_popescu Framedragger bitbet ended up short ~same btc, idiot chorus went "well since mp happens to be doing the accounting for it, and he's rich anyway, he should make whole our delusions as how the world works. because we have parenting issues from a bad childhood and also are so fucking speshul."
09:03 mircea_popescu mp then told them where to stick it, they're STILL struggling to digest the matter, a year later.
09:04 mircea_popescu and they will continue to, for the indefinite future, hide behind "oh, i can't say fuckgoats and THAT is why my brain doesn't work -- it's my principles!!1"
09:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: strategy of the 'random' thing is ~same as usual -- make an idiocy to 'replace' an inconvenient genuine thing
09:10 asciilifeform plan being, 'everyone' will remember the turd, not the victim
09:11 * shinohai is genuinely stunned as to why anyone would believe *anything* Gavin has to say on the subject of cryptography after Hoaxtoshi.
09:11 mircea_popescu nevermind that if mp does the accounting then the accounting is done and if he does not IT IS NOT DONE!!! no matter fucking what! what was the response to mp showing up in 2012 and showing the tardstalk crowd how to do the accountin g ? they didn't start doing accounting, they STOPPED it altogether. no more reports now, were all the rage back then but now it's no longer "something new to say", as discussed in the logs.
09:11 asciilifeform gavinphuctor will be the one discussed by 'experts' at rubber chicken confs, to arse technica, etc.
09:11 mircea_popescu and if mp organises a conference there's going to be a conference and if he does not there's not going to be one and if we need an isp how about mp makes it and so on and so forth up the fucking wall.
09:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nothing wrong with that, either.
09:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ours is not an age of heroes, no.
09:12 mircea_popescu Framedragger it is infantilism, through and through. "the only people who can do things are the parents, and we're not parents. the only thing we the children do is talk shit about mom's pie."
09:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nevermind heroes.
09:14 asciilifeform and lol , mircea_popescu's lament is ~exactly asciilifeform's ~yearly 'when i stop writing trb fixes, they stop getting written'...
09:14 mircea_popescu to quote the true avatars of this "our democracy" retardation, "we could build a cabin like that!" "well... not us. but two men could."
09:14 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it is not a lament.
09:17 Framedragger yes, infantilism, and a general pattern, but it wasn't just "accounting" back then, it was mp billing multiple spends as "cartel research", and other shareholder disagreeing with this. but anyway, after actually reviewing logs, my interim conclusion is "forest is deep, and don't sign a zero asset contract framedragger"
09:17 mircea_popescu the point is that this nonsensical construct where "oh, we'll avoid having our balloon worldview pricked by not doing anything -- hey, this guy is doing something, how come he can't give less of a shit about all the pricks we fear ?!?!" is wholly psychogenic. i get that the man-child abomination really truly fears the imaginary pricks he perceives to exist. but it can't be allowed to stand, this notion, that his nonsense is s
09:17 mircea_popescu omehow real.
09:18 mircea_popescu Framedragger it's always going to be "something else".
09:19 mircea_popescu but that something else is always going to be the same exact thing -- the realisation that the world as dreamed is not the world as is, and the incapacity of the child to metabolize this fact.
09:19 mircea_popescu the whole rota debacle -- exactly the same thing, as well. "oh, but that was something else". no, not really.
09:19 mircea_popescu !!up asciilifeform
09:19 deedbot asciilifeform voiced for 30 minutes.
09:21 Framedragger http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651261 << i'm not disagreeing, but am lol'ing at the fact that the "other side" would probably say the exact same thing. "delusionary worldview"
09:21 a111 Logged on 2017-05-03 13:19 mircea_popescu: but that something else is always going to be the same exact thing -- the realisation that the world as dreamed is not the world as is, and the incapacity of the child to metabolize this fact.
09:21 mircea_popescu certainly.
09:21 mircea_popescu that's, after all, the principal tool of neoteny. "all opinions are just opinions and bla bla". you ever read the ars digita bit ?
09:22 Framedragger well no, they'd actually say that there is an objective worldview. it's just that the haecceity (ha) pointers towards "this is objective" are inverse as it were
09:22 Framedragger mircea_popescu: i don't believe i have
09:23 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/olupY#selection-187.1-189.403 fine bit re this whole relativism bullshit.
09:23 mircea_popescu one of the first large companies to be sunk by "other side" nonsense.
09:25 mircea_popescu (the difference between mp and pg being that mp is not a dodo bird. pg meanwhile -- deleted the item from his own site. how about that, to lose a company is one thing, but to lose THE HAVING LOST IT ?!?! the actual part of your own personal history ? fuck me sideways, these idiots.)
09:26 Framedragger nice piece, yeah
09:26 mircea_popescu worth a read, certainly.
09:26 Framedragger (nice quoted bit, too, i see the relation, i don't agree that bitbet can be modelled as "just opinions", but w/e)
09:26 mircea_popescu somehow even more credible in having been disavowed by its original author. people with constructed negative credibility, how about that!
09:27 Framedragger hah.
09:27 mircea_popescu Framedragger what do you mean you don't agree, you just did it ?
09:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651278 << there's an absolutely phenomenal scene in jackie brown (the tarantino movie) in which nigga explains "you can't trust natalie, but you can always trust natalie to be natalie." he entirely speaks of the whole dreamer generation, white cocksucker of the male or female persuasion indifferently. dodo bird goes "dodo", reliably.
09:29 a111 Logged on 2017-05-03 13:27 Framedragger: hah.
09:29 Framedragger i actually vaguely remember. is that also where guy shoots girl towards the end because she was being bitchy? :D
09:30 mircea_popescu yep.
09:30 Framedragger nice
09:30 mircea_popescu he doesn't shot her because SHE was being bitchy.
09:30 mircea_popescu and in general - nobody will care about you enough to shoot you for you.
09:30 mircea_popescu he shoots her because he was being insecure.
09:32 Framedragger aha!
09:32 Framedragger mircea_popescu: i will give one example. about a year ago, there was a discussion with sturles about mempool and the whole zero fee tx clusterfuck. at some point later on, you said that (can't find quote, paraphrasing) on scrutiny, sturles' account broke apart. whereas i read it as "discussion was ongoing, then mp changed topic".
09:32 Framedragger i do not agree with this latter judgement, while understanding that "not agreeing with facts" is an instance of "being natalie"
09:32 * Framedragger could revisit, but later
09:32 mircea_popescu if you find the link, i'll re-read.
09:32 Framedragger sure
09:33 mircea_popescu not that i have any doubt one examples may be forthcoming for the indefinite future.
09:40 Framedragger if still curious, looks like http://btcbase.org/log/2016-03-03#1420979 , i'll reread later actually
09:40 a111 Logged on 2016-03-03 16:06 sturles: HepP!
09:40 * Framedragger bbl
09:43 Framedragger (on cursory re-glance, it's less clear, cached picture in my head was too "strong". interested to hear opinions anyway, unless too much of a beaten dead horse smell)
09:46 mircea_popescu what he's saying reduces to "the bitcoin nodes run non standard code which keeps two mempools - one to tell you, a different one to use for their own, not transparent reasons". this is exactly what i was saying also, but restated in such a way to give some appearance of footing to the usual tardstalk "oh, guise, you can't know for sure" nonsense.
09:46 mircea_popescu not like said relativism CAN have a footing anyway, so the whole difference is moot in any sense.
09:48 mircea_popescu but otherwise, it's really fucking simple : standard bitcoin node either has a transaction in its mempool or does not have it in its mempool. if it has it then it can't keep it secret from you, which in standard bitcoin is anyone. if it does not have it then it does not have it. that's the whole story of mempools.
09:50 mircea_popescu otherwise, the philosophical zombie approach, ie constructing an "agentless, accidental chain of events which has the exact same outputs" is ~always~ open. see as a fine example http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-21#1304589
09:50 a111 Logged on 2015-10-21 17:08 assbot: Saudi prince avoids felony charges in sex assault case near Beverly Hills - LA Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1OSFdZ4 )
09:51 mircea_popescu whole world of crypto is based, fundamentally, on the rejection of this naivite.
09:52 mircea_popescu otherwise it'll be nothing but "hey guise, some bits flipped because cosmic-rays and that's how the deed got deeded" all over the place.
09:54 mircea_popescu (oh btw -- it's MELANIE (for reasons, the dark one, see disgrace also) not natalie. nfi what i was thinking)
09:55 Framedragger ah ah, natalie was the cool(er) one, gotcha
09:55 Framedragger or wait, jackie was the dark one, no
09:55 Framedragger bad memory!
09:55 mircea_popescu lol
09:56 mircea_popescu pam grier is an actual sexploitation actress.
09:57 mircea_popescu she was in women in cages and whatnot, i'm sure tarantino jacked it to her loads.
09:57 shinohai In other lulz from the randomsanity site: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-5wK4IWAAA11wX.jpg
09:58 mircea_popescu shinohai you tried sampling of pi digits yet ?
09:58 shinohai Nope, but 'tis on the agenda
10:02 mircea_popescu meanwhile in the stocks, http://68.media.tumblr.com/2d9ce3685e0e19576fe02c6c77d84a6a/tumblr_o0s6r6DFe61uswp8qo1_1280.jpg
10:05 shinohai It pays to have an assortment of stocks and ASSets
10:06 mircea_popescu aha!
10:09 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-30#1650298 << ty, i'm still thinking about it. am in paris, so not much computer time. it's a perfect subj to pen and paper at cafes, while drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes.
10:09 a111 Logged on 2017-04-30 22:08 asciilifeform: !~later tell phf http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/DqmQw/?raw=true
10:10 mircea_popescu lmao this guy. i think the lord globetrotter may have been more apt.
10:12 phf siegneur touriste
10:13 mircea_popescu paris in may though... i guess if i were a girl i'd be trying to suck up to you right about now.
10:13 mircea_popescu (yes yes the actual paris is a smelly boil. but how's a girl to know ?)
10:14 phf it's dusty when it's not raining, and it's cold when it is, which is most the time, so romantic though omg
10:14 mircea_popescu lol
10:15 * phf cue a guy with an accordion
10:20 Framedragger phf: have you been to the catacombs? not the "tourist tour" way, but the "crawling through them all night, emerge victorious in middle of street" way
10:21 Framedragger they're megafun
10:22 Framedragger (then again, when i boarded a 1st class train to berlin in the morning after ~6h overnight crawl with no time to change clothes, i was seen as a wildman (unkempt beard at the time, too), scared some old german ladies. "megafun" for certain definitions lol)
10:23 Framedragger (quite certain i was called "that hippie" in german by some (wannabe) upperclass old germans; i have 0 regrets)
10:24 Framedragger (one person to ask re. entrance guidance if interested by chance is one boklm, should be on OFTC irc network)
10:25 phf heh
10:26 phf we've made friends with a "cataphilie", but we will probably have to take him up on his offer next trip (as much as it pains us, we do ue stuff wherever we go)
10:26 phf girl's been sick, and i don't think damp cold cavernous air is going to do her good
10:27 Framedragger yeah prolly not :(
10:30 phf i also haven't packed any exploration clothes. but i have one more day, which is otherwise entirely free, so it's possible that we'll end up dropping on a whim
10:31 Framedragger i know it sounds like bullshit, but serious suggestion: helmet. very uneven ceiling, lots of bumps (unless 100% careful)
10:31 * Framedragger interviewed one guy "down there" (he had part of "cave" and christmas lights on wall, said he spend lots of time there, yeah not sure about dampness, i mean god damn), said "oh yeah i'm used to taking acid and getting lost here", nonchalant
10:31 Framedragger "ok dude"
10:33 mircea_popescu lol published this interview ?
10:33 phf lol, helmet, barbour jacket, dress shoes, heels "we took a wrong turn somewhere"
10:33 Framedragger no :( wrong wording. i sat down with him for a chat. did not record. because daft kid << sorry
10:34 mircea_popescu if you take her in heels might as well make her leave the dress at the entrance. go for the whole nine yards!
10:34 Framedragger in our group there was a kid who took a laptop and a camera. there were places where water level reached crotch. ... computer kids
10:35 Framedragger (we did do an amateur key signing party down there, sorta, so that was nice)
10:35 mircea_popescu ew, crypt water!
10:35 Framedragger with lotsa skulls!
10:36 Framedragger (avoidable on more tourist-y routes, of course)
10:36 mircea_popescu so you're technically speaking a baptised satanist.
10:37 Framedragger oh i wish, wouldn't that be grand!
10:37 Framedragger i guess it counts.
10:37 mircea_popescu well ? waded though underground skull river ?
10:37 Framedragger hm!
10:38 Framedragger OK, will do. when Lords have taglines...
10:38 phf well, the catacombs are technically consecrated, so that presumably makes the water holy? i'm not sure what catholic rules for desecration are. taking stuff from catacombs is it for sure though
10:39 Framedragger one of our party took part of a skull that was embedded in some wall. maybe that counts?..
10:39 phf absolutely
10:40 Framedragger (we also snorted some adderall (the crudeness of this was offset by popping a bottle of decent wine open, it's all good))
10:40 phf jeez, that's like some "my first 16 ue adventure" stuff :p
10:40 Framedragger !~ud ue
10:40 jhvh1 Framedragger: ue :: Term denoting [Urban Exploration]. Used as both a noun and a verb. The idea of urban adventure is also expressed via [URBEX] and [URBANEX]. [ex:] Let's UE the derelict old warehouse on Fifth Street tonight.I'm acquainted with the tenets of UE. Today, I document for posterity what will vanish tomorrow. [/ex] | User Error, from WikiPedia:The phrase User Error or USR error, is a technical term (4 more messages)
10:41 Framedragger hah :D
10:41 Framedragger damn, ud is da shit amirite
10:49 mircea_popescu seems the transition to graveyard culture will be indeed smooth.
10:53 mircea_popescu phf eh, the whole satanism thing is all about mock-catolicism. "oh, it's a cross, but it's BLACK!!1 oh it's a mass but it's DARK!111".
10:55 Framedragger !~s william blake "marriage of heaven and hell"
10:55 jhvh1 Framedragger: Error: "s" is not a valid command.
10:56 Framedragger !~google william blake "marriage of heaven and hell"
10:56 jhvh1 Framedragger: The Marriage of Heaven and Hell - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marriage_of_Heaven_and_Hell>; The Marriage of Heaven and Hell . William Blake . 1908. The Poetical ...: <http://www.bartleby.com/235/253.html>; William Blake - The Marriage of Heaven and Hell - Levity: <http://www.levity.com/alchemy/blake_ma.html>
11:03 Framedragger ^ (nice text, illustrations etc)
11:18 mircea_popescu but since we're doing mp business school apparently : phg's dodisms / http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651277 is directly obvious from the text, of course. even a casual reader can find the answer "because he VERY MUCH WANTS mit to matter and count for something" to the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651273 question.
11:18 a111 Logged on 2017-05-03 13:26 mircea_popescu: somehow even more credible in having been disavowed by its original author. people with constructed negative credibility, how about that!
11:18 a111 Logged on 2017-05-03 13:25 mircea_popescu: (the difference between mp and pg being that mp is not a dodo bird. pg meanwhile -- deleted the item from his own site. how about that, to lose a company is one thing, but to lose THE HAVING LOST IT ?!?! the actual part of your own personal history ? fuck me sideways, these idiots.)
11:19 mircea_popescu nevertheless, the dodoism is apparent WAY the fuck sooner, much like the castle actually became das schloss way before the casual reader noticed.
11:21 mircea_popescu in this particular case it's here : https://archive.is/olupY#selection-115.505-115.603
11:21 mircea_popescu "The terms we'd been offered from the three other serious venture capitalist bidders were similar."
11:22 mircea_popescu there are two ways in which polling agents results in the same string. the first is, if the item considered is banal, you show a cup to three people and get "it is a cup" back. the second is, when they have agreed among themselves to, basically, lie to you. "we call this rape", and the subtle difference already says it. "it's sex, the kind we call rape, much like if it were a cup the kind we call grail"
11:23 mircea_popescu now then, once they already told him they were lying to him, through having made a "consensus", it was his fucking job to decide which way they're lying. if they're overvaluing he should have sold ; if not he should have shown all of them the door.
11:23 mircea_popescu except he doesn't think he can do this, because, essentially, he does not think he can be an adult. he is a child, and his name for daddy is "mit".
11:24 mircea_popescu children don't get to run things, or in his own words "like watching a group of nursery school children who've stolen a Boeing 747 and are now flipping all the switches trying to get it to take off"
11:24 mircea_popescu except it's not a boeing, it's a woman, and the flipping and licking by children does not get her going. even if i doing the ~exact same thing~ end up with an ex-lesbian in my living room.
11:31 mircea_popescu and as to the parallel mp school of philosophy : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651269 << no, regression is NOT a functional means to salvage. not your childhood, as the psychiatric defense ; not nonsense, as the "philosophical" bullshit deployed here, not dead notions of citizenship as seen in the cancer eating the legal system, not bad software through the "magic" of "a framework" and "Abstracting away" etc. regression
11:31 a111 Logged on 2017-05-03 13:22 Framedragger: well no, they'd actually say that there is an objective worldview. it's just that the haecceity (ha) pointers towards "this is objective" are inverse as it were
11:31 mircea_popescu does not work.
11:33 mircea_popescu but, to do a third, mp's linguistics class : the sufferer does put the signature of his sufferance in his utterances. which is why they're so easy to identify (and how they manage to find each other and clump together like dogvomit.) dodo bird will say dodo bird things, such as "consensus" and "it is hard to lose money hiring mit graduates" and on it goes, lengthy list.
11:33 mircea_popescu people WILL tell you what ails their mind. it's why it's an ailment in the first place.
11:33 mircea_popescu it leaks bits.
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12:16 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/05/usg-asset-gavin-andresen-pretends-to-meaningfully-inspect-your-random/ << Qntra - USG Asset Gavin Andresen Pretends To Meaningfully Inspect Your Random
12:19 deedbot http://www.dianacoman.com/2017/05/03/quest-for-the-crafty-noob/ << Ossasepia - Quest for the Crafty Noob
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13:02 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=7549 << Public Sector Revenue Generation
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13:31 jurov S.QNTR distributed
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13:50 shinohai ty jurov
13:56 danielpbarron !!deed http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/ERPBs/?raw=true
13:56 deedbot accepted: 1
13:56 danielpbarron jurov, ^
14:00 mircea_popescu o hey, foundation owning shares, too ?
14:00 Framedragger i was wondering how this'd work accounting-wise :D
14:00 danielpbarron or just sell them and donate the btc, whatever works
14:01 mircea_popescu !#s fee tail
14:01 a111 3 results for "fee tail", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=fee%20tail
14:03 jurov i'll just keep them and gleefully report them monthly until mod6 and ben_vulpes move
14:15 deedbot http://deedbot.org/bundle-464675.txt
14:27 * shinohai just npw realized he has almost been contributing to Qntra for one year now ....
14:36 mircea_popescu o hey!
14:38 Framedragger gratz shinohai
14:47 shinohai ty. Would likely have never gotten addicted but BB and mircea_popescu kept goading me to.
14:50 trinque looks like deed transactions are packing sufficient fee again.
14:55 mircea_popescu cool deal
15:09 shinohai https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-5xbR3WsAMGY1r.jpg <<< reddit opines on cuckoldry
15:11 trinque trilema did it way better
15:12 trinque also the preoccupation with this "omg daughter will be fucked" is latent protestant incestual pedophilia
15:12 trinque they have to be the worst group of people ever to walk the earth
15:13 trinque the guy who wrote that is exactly the guy beating off to the camwhore cooing in baby voice with a teddy bear, and that's only because he can't get the clinton goods
15:16 shinohai Precisely.
15:16 shinohai And trilema always does it better lol
15:18 Framedragger anarcho_capitalism, such subreddit. on the other hand top comment *is* "Have you tried NOT wanting to fuck your daughter?"
15:20 trinque say what you want about the catholics; at least they make their pedos wear funny clothes so you see them coming.
15:23 shinohai lel
15:23 trinque unrelatedly hey asciilifeform, got an apu2?
15:24 * trinque loves this little box
15:24 trinque ty for the recommendation of pcengines
15:26 mircea_popescu trinque well, they're scottish originally. unsurprisingly enough.
15:26 danielpbarron guy errs when he says "some random guy gets her" -- this proceeds from the destructive practice of teaching daughters that their opinion matters and they should do what feels good to them, rather than telling them to do as you say and marry who you tell them to
15:26 mircea_popescu Framedragger "have you tried not wanting to fuck guys???" whadda ya know, next they'll "cure" pedos. because they're so totally unlike gays and everything.
15:30 Framedragger yeah the "curable!" western obsession is quite funny
15:32 danielpbarron most churches now embrace homosexuality. But if they weren't teaching destructive heresies they'd say homosexuality is indeed wrong, and that it can be cured by simply believing in Jesus Christ
15:35 mircea_popescu "how do you cure the problem of wanting the wrong things ?" "by getting rid of the strange notion that what you want matters."
15:36 mircea_popescu i'm sure it sounds exactly like throwing out the nubile young daughter out with the cumrag to they afflicted.
15:37 danielpbarron that is a very Christian thing to say. Christ says to hate yourself, and that your ways are wicked; that your desires are for evil
15:40 shinohai https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4o2EhIWYAEHhKC.jpg <<< /me would really like to know what is in those jars
15:41 mircea_popescu meanwhile the chinos seem to have completely given up on tx priority by fee. there's 20 sat/B items included, there's 200 sat/B item waiting for hours in the pool, it's a complete, ridiculous mess.
15:42 mircea_popescu how can anyone pretend like the bitcoin miners aren't attacking the bitcoin network with such behaviour is anyone's guess.
15:43 mircea_popescu but hey, the usg stoolies managed to prevent meaningful discussion with all their ineptitudes and idiocies, which is generally how the usg stays afloat. not like anyone takes it seriously in the direct. they just manage to make it so nobody can hear anyone else who isn't an idiot and that's good enough.
15:43 mircea_popescu (andpool, as usual, the worst offender.)
15:49 pete_dushenski the cny/usd-btc spread has also grown by 6% in the last 24hrs. pboc pulling strings again ?
15:50 mircea_popescu human idiocy is built out of the self-conscious efforts of a multitude of microscopic wise guys.
15:53 pete_dushenski speaking of self-conscious wise guys, where does moldova fit on the natoreich-realworld spectrum ?
15:53 mircea_popescu ~same as odessa
15:54 pete_dushenski so close enough to realworld for tmsr dc ?
15:54 mircea_popescu meh.
15:54 pete_dushenski kk.
15:55 mircea_popescu incidentally, weren't you kinda vaguely interested in doing fg sales ?
15:55 * pete_dushenski keeps hunting, scouring the two corners of the globe
15:55 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: yes. this is related.
15:55 mircea_popescu or is it going to be the case that you'll go through the motions of pretending interest in whatevert topic du jour and i'm not going to say anything because i';m lazy ? what's the thinking ?
15:55 mircea_popescu how is it related ?
15:57 pete_dushenski in that dc who buys fg needs to be in realworld according to mp, or else it's in a weird limbo where has units that no person (republican) will buy.
15:58 mircea_popescu this is rank nonsense. the ~isps~ buying fg for their customers aren't going to be dcs.
15:58 mircea_popescu how many have you called to date ?
15:58 pete_dushenski half-dozen.
15:59 mircea_popescu this because you started an hour ago or what ?
15:59 mircea_popescu "planning" is a miserable substitute for work. nevermind the nonsense. call everyone. today.
16:01 pete_dushenski ok. so i call them all today. except i'm still not clear wtf is an isp and wtf is a dc. you use them interchangeably it seems.
16:02 pete_dushenski but maybe i'm thick
16:02 shinohai isp = internetz service provider .... dc= data centre
16:03 Framedragger nah even i am clear by now i think, and that tells ya something :D an isp may or may not own a dc. an isp has hardware at a dc. isp deals with customers (be it private or business), a dc deals with isps. in this picture if you are colocating at a dc, you are (in mp's picture) an isp, basically.
16:03 Framedragger unless i messed it up, too
16:04 mircea_popescu dude, just call. nevermind the "questions" and rest of the crap. spend 1/10 of the time you frittered away already "on" this to call, write up your report, "i, pete d, aspiring to one day lordship, spent 8 hours today cold calling. i managed a total of 76 calls, which would get me fired from the average call center but hey, i'm new. these 76 calls went to so and so, here's the script, here's why i ammended it and when, here's
16:04 mircea_popescu the responses i got sorted by types"
16:06 mircea_popescu Framedragger guy's managing office space, supposedly i'm the one to illustrate the difference between a restaurant and a real estate holding co. "oh, you mean the restaurant takes meal orders from walk-ins on the premises owned by the landlord ?!?! TELL ME MORE OF THIS WEIRD FAR AWAY PLANET!!11"
16:06 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: sounds about right.
16:07 * pete_dushenski goes to reread logs and make calls.
16:12 shinohai Anything is possible is you sound Caucasian on the phone!!!
16:12 trinque sheeit
16:13 shinohai And in other unsolicited DM's today: "Thx 4follow us, free cloud mining for you - 400 GH/s To Mine Bitcoin http://bit.ly/2pKLI8q It's Never too late to get Started with Bitcoin"
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16:39 phf http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651371 << i read of course
16:39 a111 Logged on 2017-05-03 15:03 Framedragger: ^ (nice text, illustrations etc)
16:40 phf i saw a cool edition of blake's works in powell's in portland. it was a folio reproduction of his designs, with complete Marriage, etc. unfortunately it was something like $400, and i just couldn't justify buying it then
16:41 Framedragger daamn sounds cool
16:42 phf i have this one, https://www.amazon.fr/Blakes-Poetry-Designs-Critical-Editions/dp/039392498X (2nd edition) and while they tried capturing the feeling of how his imagery blends with the text, the visuals are not complete
16:43 phf yeah, if you're ever in portland, stop by powell's, top floor. it's their "rare books" section
16:46 Framedragger i fucking shall! k.
16:47 ben_vulpes ~last enjoyable section at powells
16:48 ben_vulpes once upon a time they'd happily sell shit for a dollar that they got for twenty cents
16:48 ben_vulpes these days it lives in a warehouse in beaverton so they can reasonably hold the price two to three dollars under the new price for the same thing
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17:08 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651404 <<< How time flies, it isn't one year, but *2*
17:08 a111 Logged on 2017-05-03 18:27 shinohai just npw realized he has almost been contributing to Qntra for one year now ....
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17:26 shinohai http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20170503203426&mode=expanded <<< for OpenBSD aficionados
17:26 mircea_popescu soooo... the unconfirmed rumour is that the chinese govt is drawing up plans to make bitcoin a strategic commodity, making it illegal for private citizens to hold it / buy their holdings at the "prevailing market rates" (ie, 1kish_
~ 16 minutes ~
17:42 shinohai Illegal to hodl at all ?
17:46 ben_vulpes lol, cn considering banning math eh?
17:46 ben_vulpes math performed outside its borders even
17:47 mircea_popescu hey.
17:47 mircea_popescu you know the six cumquats story or what was it ?
17:48 ben_vulpes i don't think so, no
17:48 mircea_popescu shinohai improper subject of hodling, like wives / children / etc.
17:48 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes at some point someone gave $chinese ruler half dozen fruit. he didn't want them, donated them to local chapter of party.
17:48 ben_vulpes aha yes
17:49 ben_vulpes with the epoxy?
17:49 mircea_popescu local chapter of party proceeded to display them in the local chantry/temple, then made them into a 10 ton soup everyone got a spoon
17:50 ben_vulpes forgive me for being thick, but what's the connection between outlawing math and the homeopathic spoiled mango soup?
17:51 mircea_popescu figure you could have bought a cumquat ?
17:51 mircea_popescu teh china has a rich history of "item can't be privately owned".
17:51 mircea_popescu "because not nearly enough of it", see.
17:53 ben_vulpes there is yet a yawning chasm between generating ecdsa keys and owning a quat of cum in my mind
17:56 trinque let 'em "collectively hold bitcoin"
17:56 trinque that'll be the fountain of lol
17:56 * trinque wonders how long before bitcoin gets its own war.
18:08 mircea_popescu trinque you know the other soviets aren't so far off. how is coinbase-ly "holding" bitcoin any better ?
18:08 mircea_popescu stupidity is the human nature, dice it as you will.
18:10 mircea_popescu fact remains : the fiat pretend-sovereigns failed before the republic, and these long arid years of humiliation of their agents in our hands push them towards the only thing they know : collective security.
~ 51 minutes ~
19:01 mircea_popescu there's the cutest inch-long gecko hanging about... he's fucking adorable.
19:01 shinohai Coinbase, not having enough scams to keep it afloat, adds Litecoin.
19:02 ben_vulpes 2012 called
19:02 ben_vulpes wants its altcoins back
19:02 ben_vulpes "we're not ret^H^H^Hslow, we're /conservative/."
19:03 shinohai Pretty hilarious that Charlie Lee works there and couldn't get his shit added until now.
19:03 shinohai Over fucking Ethereum.
19:04 ben_vulpes heh it'd be funny if a) the fiduciary rule had stuck and b) if someone had brought suit against coinbase/kraken for pushing penny stocks
19:04 ben_vulpes lol hey nobody cares what the devs want
19:05 ben_vulpes never have, never will.
19:05 ben_vulpes he was hired to lend credence to cb, not to further his own ambitions.
19:05 ben_vulpes which he'd doubtless deny anyways; "no litecoin's for the good of huge manatees!"
19:06 shinohai Testbed for fucking segwit atm
19:06 shinohai konsensus and all
19:07 mircea_popescu it's pretty much the fate of all these wanna-be nothing-in-particulars. to quote donald clinton, "the traditional route : years of rejection and failure until they're spit out the bottom of the porn industry"
19:07 ben_vulpes can't spell consensus without con
19:07 shinohai ^
19:10 mircea_popescu speaking of which, whatever happened to brock pierce.
19:11 ben_vulpes got lost looking for children at fyre
19:12 mircea_popescu but i thought he was like you know, a big deal and all that. cointrepreneur, rogerver, jesusomething ?
19:13 shinohai Busy piercing little kids
19:14 mircea_popescu speaking of that fyre bs : "April 29, 2017 Yesterday was a very challenging day for all of us."
19:14 mircea_popescu the shitstain. "all of us" ? how about you don't inflate away my inconvenience in a pile of dubious matter of unclear provenance wtf bullshit is this.
19:14 ben_vulpes more lulz from that tire fyre?
19:14 mircea_popescu socialists and the group defence already.
19:14 ben_vulpes hey you know what's fun
19:15 ben_vulpes beating the "making individual problems into group problems" meme into millenials heads
19:15 mircea_popescu somehow if "it was very challenging" for "we all" then it's no longer supposed to be the case that you pissed off the wrong guy and now sleep with the fishes, amirite ?
19:16 ben_vulpes oh ja rule swings dong now? can bury kiddos?
19:16 mircea_popescu https://www.fyrefestival.com/ << fucking epitome of the mongoloid generation.
19:16 mircea_popescu "passions" for you know, "technology", "the ocean" and "music". because that's how this fucking works, there's a large jar called "passions" and you pick m&m's from there. they're all the fucking same.
19:17 mircea_popescu "starting a viral campaign". IT CAN ONLY BE VIRAL AFTERWARDS. you don't fucking START it that way jesus christ these morons.
19:18 mircea_popescu "o hi jane i see you are making bread ?" "no it is not bread it is croutons".
19:18 mircea_popescu "from the ground up" is in there, too. i'm giving even odds for "sweat blood and tears".
19:18 ben_vulpes i can't imagine ja rule's passion for the ocean extends past terra yacht-a
19:19 mircea_popescu wtf is this even, a passion for the ocean.
19:19 ben_vulpes they brought an waambleance from ny
19:19 ben_vulpes da fuq, yo
19:19 mircea_popescu "vague interest based on having seen something on tv once"
19:19 ben_vulpes hey i have a passion for 80-foot statistical anomalies
19:19 ben_vulpes i saw them on tv once!
19:19 ben_vulpes hey, good band name
19:19 mircea_popescu at least a cat's passion for boxes is genuine.
19:20 ben_vulpes this girl had a particularly dumb cat once upon a time. couldn't handle boxes, but had to sit on anything rectilinear on the floor.
19:20 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes and the idiotic, illiterate shamanism of it all. "we chartered 737 planes to shuttle guests from miami". wtf, that many ? oh no wait, it's not a number, IT IS A NAME.
19:21 ben_vulpes put down two and it'd oscillate between them.
19:21 ben_vulpes put three down and it'd walk out pretending haughtiness to conceal confusion.
19:21 mircea_popescu and then "The busses couldn't cope". motherfucking mental defective! the busses COME WITH NUMBERS. $capacity. $speed. you can CALCULATE
19:21 mircea_popescu omfrg.
19:21 ben_vulpes budget lolzporium continues to delivor
19:22 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i knew a cat that couldn't take people hyperventilating.
19:22 mircea_popescu cats are weird.
19:22 ben_vulpes well no mircea_popescu also security couldn't cope! they worried! how can you calculate the security numbers, you dragon you?
19:22 mircea_popescu "we thought we were ready but then it turns out we never ever did any of those 6th grade math problems, with the three faucets and the tub"
19:22 ben_vulpes hey, cut the schmucks a break they were raised with imperial units
19:23 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes one day ima put one of these fucks in stocks and whip them until they either die or meaningfully explain what "take full responsibility" is supposed to FUCKING EVEN BE!
19:23 ben_vulpes "but a ton is an absurd amalgamation of other retarded units like chains and furlongs!"
19:23 ben_vulpes "nono, a metric tonne, dummy"
19:25 mircea_popescu "how many 10 g spoonfulls of water in a full pool 15 x 7 x 3 ?" "31500000" "now do ounces for a ten yards by fifty feet by eighty inches pool"
19:25 ben_vulpes eh that took you too long to bake
19:25 ben_vulpes ;p
19:25 * ben_vulpes to lie in the sun with rose and rosy cheeks
19:25 mircea_popescu a minute ?!?!?!?!
19:25 ben_vulpes too long!
19:26 ben_vulpes "you meant yards, right? and i have to convert cc's to yards somehow!"
19:26 shinohai Imagine in Medieval times when 1 yard = distance between King's nose to to thumb on outstretched arm.
19:26 mircea_popescu holy shit they got the gall to talk of fyre 2018
19:27 mircea_popescu motherfucker these people.
19:27 mircea_popescu it doesn't look like there's enough arabs.
19:27 ben_vulpes think of all the bahamians they'll employ
19:27 mircea_popescu no they're going to bless a us beach with the presence next
19:28 mircea_popescu anyway, it's the right move from a cattle herding perspective. refund the current crop and promise them vip seats atthe next one. gotta keep the promise flow.
19:30 mircea_popescu but, since they had people who could throw a quarter mil on tickets, and they're being hounded by geragos & friends for 100s of mns, it seems somewhat dubious it'll actually work.
~ 1 hours 26 minutes ~
20:57 Framedragger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJqOFLP4kA << some music. nik bartsch
21:03 shinohai Interesting music Framedragger, not my normal fare but ....
21:04 Framedragger bartsch does quite a bit of funky stuff, e.g. with his band "ronin". (e.g. album "holon"). if you follow youtube suggestions, will get some nice live plays of his, etc
21:04 Framedragger (does stuff with other bands, too)
21:06 * shinohai is more of a Classical/Metal person
21:10 Framedragger nice. rachmaninov with heavy overdrive!
21:23 mod6 evenin'
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21:38 shinohai o7 mod6
21:39 shinohai Framedragger: I prefer Rimsky-Korsakov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR_Q7NbLzyU&t=916s
21:40 mod6 how they hangin' shinohai ?
21:40 shinohai A little low and to the left! >.>
21:43 mod6 respectable
21:47 shinohai I'm sure if she tugs on 'em a bit they will swing more clockwise.
21:52 mod6 :D
22:03 shinohai Since all the other scammers can come up with a coin, I - The Baron Titsbare - should create a new algo called Proof of Jerk.
22:03 mod6 heh
22:05 mod6 <+mircea_popescu> o hey, foundation owning shares, too ? << at first I was thinking that these might need to be realised into btc and sent to the addy... but i don't see any restrictions on asset ownership. as long as jurov writes in a line item in the report at least.
22:05 mod6 ben_vulpes: thoughts?
22:06 shinohai Perhaps said shares will appreciate in value.
22:06 BingoBoingo shinohai: Congrats on two years, it works when you work it. When are you picking up your coin and eating caek?
22:06 mod6 hey!
22:06 mod6 well done!
22:08 shinohai BingoBoingo: I'm honestly *incredulous* 2 years have passed so quickly. The lulz have been as worthy as the shares, and that's value.
22:12 BingoBoingo That's the power of "Keep coming back"
22:14 shinohai I'm thankful the Republic accepts my contributions. Where else the fuck would someone like me go?
22:21 BingoBoingo The bar?
22:23 shinohai Heh, never found solutions there.
22:23 * shinohai unless, say TITTY bar
22:28 BingoBoingo lol, The lord titsbare hath decreed it
22:30 shinohai ^_______________^
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22:53 mod6 cheddarworst brats on the grill tonight with dijon mustard.
22:53 mod6 yaaaaa.
22:55 BingoBoingo nice
22:55 shinohai yummy
22:55 mod6 so awesome
22:56 shinohai I have a guest tonite of the Georgian persuasion who made some kind of funky Stroganoff that i'm not gonna argue with.
22:57 mod6 ah, nice man
22:57 mod6 sounds good
22:59 shinohai You are welcome to load up the Suburban and amble over here, lel.
23:00 mod6 haha. werd.
23:00 mod6 road trip kinda sounds cool actually.
23:01 mod6 i've been afk too much lately. :/
23:01 mod6 got a metric-fuckton to catch up on
23:12 mod6 here's the results from FG #3, second run of entropy collection1.1Gb worth. `ent` && `dieharder` results: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.ent_run2.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.dieharder_run2.txt
23:14 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-04#1651601 <<< On further thought, "You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you."
23:14 a111 Logged on 2017-05-04 02:21 BingoBoingo: The bar?
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23:31 BingoBoingo http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/27/college-speaker-whines-about-prison-but-fails-to-mention-that-she-tortured-and-killed-a-man/
23:32 shinohai Trump made me do it.
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23:59 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
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