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02:15 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - ItBit US Out of Business before May 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1149/itbit-us-out-of-business-before-may-2016/#b13
02:15 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bashar al-Assad still in office May 1st, 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1145/bashar-al-assad-still-in-office-may-1st-2016/#b9
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04:45 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.01000000 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b25
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05:11 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b26
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06:06 punkman http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/02/the-nsas-skynet-program-may-be-killing-thousands-of-innocent-people/
06:06 assbot The NSA’s SKYNET program may be killing thousands of innocent people | Ars Technica UK ... ( http://bit.ly/1SQjPYf )
06:10 punkman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNVqe_Fa72w
06:10 assbot GG Allin - Livin' Like An Animal - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1SQk45D )
06:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57600 @ 0.00056252 = 32.4012 BTC [-] {3}
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06:42 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo will prolly appreciate http://trilema.com/2016/the-womans-fault/#comment-116552
06:42 assbot The woman's fault on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PBVWiV )
06:43 mircea_popescu but i am also very curious to hear out disagreement, especially from the esteemed peers living with young children.
06:44 mircea_popescu "Last year, The Intercept published documents detailing the NSA's SKYNET programme. According to the documents, SKYNET engages in mass surveillance of Pakistan's mobile phone network, and then uses a machine learning algorithm on the cellular network metadata of 55 million people to try and rate each person's likelihood of being a terrorist." << hey, i'm sure they beat them at go, first!
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07:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22350 @ 0.00056665 = 12.6646 BTC [+]
07:46 asciilifeform http://arstechnica.co.uk/security/2016/02/using-ipv6-with-linux-youve-likely-been-visited-by-shodan-and-other-scanners << ntp and ipv6 lulz
07:46 assbot Using IPv6 with Linux? You’ve likely been visited by Shodan and other scanners | Ars Technica UK ... ( http://bit.ly/1RJ72p5 )
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08:03 asciilifeform http://arstechnica.co.uk/staff/2016/02/open-instruments-and-tools-nice-idea-tough-to-implement << from same rag, mega-jwz piece
08:03 assbot Science with open hardware: A new way to restrict participation | Ars Technica UK ... ( http://bit.ly/1RJ9KL7 )
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08:37 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: lol
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09:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80550 @ 0.00056257 = 45.315 BTC [-] {3}
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09:54 shinohai https://redd.it/461ts8 <<< Let's not include a fee because it's only $25
09:54 assbot I selected "no fee if possible", it's been 5 hours. Am I boned? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1KnpBxA )
10:09 mod6 morning, just a heads up here. ben has been testing V for me, and we're going through it. might need another patch tonight.
10:09 mod6 will let you all know. thanks
10:13 BingoBoingo ty mod6
10:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55100 @ 0.00056665 = 31.2224 BTC [+]
10:21 deedbot- [Trilema] Eulora auction, February the 21st - http://trilema.com/2016/eulora-auction-february-the-21st/
10:24 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: hey, i'm sure they beat them at go, first! << never knew people played go in pakistan
10:24 mircea_popescu go-at.
10:26 thestringpuller asciilifeform: anyway rockets are so 20th c << I hope for warp drive by 22nd century.
10:28 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 3.18135891 BTC on 'No' - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match - http://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march/#b29
10:30 BingoBoingo Need more amazon https://imgur.com/a/jweYf
10:30 assbot Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrCAJn )
10:31 mircea_popescu in other bitcoin news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lul4ub4Rnp1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
10:31 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrCFwP )
10:32 shinohai What is that mircea_popescu, a human representation of the Ethereum pyramid scheme?
10:33 mircea_popescu these are pubic beards not neckbeards.
10:33 shinohai true! :D
10:33 shinohai Not that Buterin can grow any facial hair.
10:34 BingoBoingo Ah, Phillipinos!
10:36 shinohai BingoBoingo: I hear she needs moar hands, a job for you! https://49.media.tumblr.com/47055c3220254c6644bb5a8ed754c334/tumblr_o0z8mr3PRD1ugsfk7o2_500.gif
10:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrD7Lo )
10:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16500 @ 0.0005589 = 9.2219 BTC [-] {2}
10:37 BingoBoingo shinohai: Notice the darker skin on the dieselbag's legs suggest Beetus is already about to take them.
10:38 shinohai I'm just wondering since she is sitting on the floor if there was a crane handy to help lift her after this photo was made.
10:40 BingoBoingo Probably just kicked it into the rendering pot afterwards.
10:40 BingoBoingo Then estherification and voila, diesel.
10:42 shinohai xD
10:43 BingoBoingo shinohai: Don't go swimming https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/comments/863251
10:43 assbot What was your favorite thing that the fats have ruined? | fatpeoplehate ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrDUMc )
10:44 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/C5vfpS4.png
10:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrE2eE )
10:45 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/oy95l
10:45 assbot I'm sick of the shallow insecure people on this site : depression ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrE46u )
10:45 shinohai There is a public pool just a few streets down from me. So many fat people were there last summer I wondered how all the water wasn't displaced.
10:56 punkman https://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2016/02/cve-2015-7547-glibc-getaddrinfo-stack.html
10:56 assbot Google Online Security Blog: CVE-2015-7547: glibc getaddrinfo stack-based buffer overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrFhL1 )
10:57 asciilifeform ahahahahahahaha
10:57 asciilifeform drep drep drepper
10:57 mircea_popescu awww
10:58 mircea_popescu now that trb no longer uses it, is ok to burn it ?
10:58 asciilifeform apparently
10:58 asciilifeform would've been glorious if they'd fired it first
10:58 asciilifeform empty the prb folks
10:58 asciilifeform but that'd be burning prb, which is a no-no.
10:59 asciilifeform (for anyone who forgot, prb still has hardcoded dns seed etc)
10:59 mircea_popescu #b-a, the driving force behind internet security phenomena. since 2016.
10:59 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo incidentally, this should be qntra'd asap.
10:59 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: ALready started
10:59 asciilifeform 'The glibc DNS client side resolver is vulnerable to a stack-based buffer overflow when the getaddrinfo() library function is used. Software using this function may be exploited with attacker-controlled domain names, attacker-controlled DNS servers, or through a man-in-the-middle attack.'
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11:00 mircea_popescu see if stackexchange burial team is at battlestations or not.
11:00 mircea_popescu asciilifeform should be pretty lulzy to read the "never happened and if it did we did it first nayway" verbiage.
11:00 asciilifeform naturally.
11:00 asciilifeform at this point i would be greatly surprised to see anything else.
11:01 punkman "Remote code execution is possible, but not straightforward. It requires bypassing the security mitigations present on the system, such as ASLR. We will not release our exploit code, but a non-weaponized Proof of Concept has been made available"
11:01 asciilifeform 'We would like to thank .... blahblah ... Florian Weimer ...
11:01 asciilifeform ''
11:01 asciilifeform ... and the rest of the glibc team '
11:02 asciilifeform l0l!!
11:02 mircea_popescu left a note in bitcoin-dev for maxilulz.
11:02 asciilifeform 'The vectors to trigger this buffer overflow are very common and can include ssh, sudo, and curl.'
11:03 asciilifeform is anyone still unclear why i did not and still do not want curl in vtron ?!!!!
11:03 mircea_popescu totally, thank the people who put the hole in, it's because of their "hard work" that you have a hole to burn.
11:03 mircea_popescu asshats.
11:03 punkman " The code that causes the vulnerability was introduced in May 2008 as part of glibc 2.9."
11:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that never was the unclear part. didja have a replacement was the unclear part.
11:04 asciilifeform the replacement is manual loading of tarballs from wherever onto the build box.
11:04 mircea_popescu i guess.
11:04 asciilifeform a la pgp.
11:04 asciilifeform and the offloading of the built binary, via same.
11:05 asciilifeform from, as i gather, elementary economic calculations, the enemy focuses almost all effort on real-time/net-connected crapola
11:06 mircea_popescu aha
11:06 PeterL asciilifeform wasn't the thing you were describing, 'g', going to be for downloading stuff?
11:06 asciilifeform PeterL: not precisely
11:06 asciilifeform PeterL: it is supposed to be a generic cipherator for tcp tunnel
11:06 asciilifeform but not released yet, and at this rate no idea if even releasable at all, i lack a cipher
11:07 asciilifeform what i wanted was a generic, fits-in-head (a few 1000 lines of c, no deps) stateless, 'protocol-less' cipherator that one could put, e.g., ftp over
11:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.00056335 = 18.8722 BTC [+] {3}
11:11 asciilifeform incidentally, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-01-2015#988950
11:11 assbot Logged on 23-01-2015 04:24:33; asciilifeform: i have a 0.8 node that does crash quarterly or so. bitcoin-msghand[15569]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000blahblah sp 0000blahblahblah error 4 in bitcoind[400000+303000]
11:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: also recall, i excised not only dns but glibc
11:11 asciilifeform (in case you are thinking of writing this up for qntra etc)
11:12 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/02/google-unveils-glibc-dns-client-vulnerability-many-bitcoin-implementations-affected/
11:12 assbot Google Unveils Glibc DNS Client Vulnerability Many Bitcoin Implementations Affected | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrHczf )
11:12 BingoBoingo Currently seeking Corrections!
11:12 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: see above
11:12 asciilifeform ~we nuked glibc entirely~
11:13 deedbot- [Qntra] Google Unveils Glibc DNS Client Vulnerability Many Bitcoin Implementations Affected - http://qntra.net/2016/02/google-unveils-glibc-dns-client-vulnerability-many-bitcoin-implementations-affected/
11:13 asciilifeform (rotor musl build)
11:13 asciilifeform ^ what everybody here, i think, is using at this point
11:13 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ~we nuked glibc entirely~ << Nuked the NEED for glibc
11:13 asciilifeform aha
11:13 asciilifeform it no longer need exist on our planet.
11:13 asciilifeform at least after emacs is fixed.
11:13 BingoBoingo But could be built against glibc so I think my wording is correct.
11:14 asciilifeform 'could' even be built on winblowz.
11:14 BingoBoingo But any other corrections before SEO advances?
11:14 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i would add in your article that the flagship trb boxes are running sans-glibc.
11:15 asciilifeform and have been for many months.
11:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35081 @ 0.00056665 = 19.8786 BTC [+]
11:16 BingoBoingo Noted, more can be added in comments by the knowlegable
11:17 asciilifeform https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2016-02/msg00416.html << holy fuck the sheer mass of fecal matter
11:17 assbot Carlos O'Donell - [PATCH] CVE-2015-7547 --- glibc getaddrinfo() stack-based buffer overflo ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrHMwR )
11:18 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/qntra/status/699628967024701440
11:19 mircea_popescu nb
11:19 mircea_popescu The reference bitcoind -> The reference Bitcoin
11:20 asciilifeform https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11110858
11:20 assbot GLibc remote exploit affects all Bitcoin clients except for one | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrI6f1 )
11:20 mircea_popescu nb.
11:21 asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/4635y5/glibc_remote_exploit_affects_all_bitcoin_clients/
11:21 assbot GLibc remote exploit affects all Bitcoin clients - except for one. : netsec ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrIj1X )
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11:22 asciilifeform ahahahahaha
11:22 asciilifeform guess wat.
11:23 asciilifeform ^ this is a new one for reddit, traditionally they 'shadowban'
11:23 mircea_popescu isn't that standard ?
11:23 asciilifeform nope
11:23 mircea_popescu lol
11:23 felipelalli !s openbsd
11:23 assbot 761 results for 'openbsd' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=openbsd
11:23 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: fxd
11:23 mircea_popescu exciting times.
11:25 asciilifeform would be exciting, if i did not already know how this will go
11:25 asciilifeform e.g., expect massive qntra ddos some time in the next few hrs
11:25 asciilifeform etc.
11:25 mircea_popescu "it is forbidden to suggest solutions to the septic problem that involve any manner of removing shit from the stack"
11:25 BingoBoingo lol
11:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i'm not too worried bout that.
11:26 asciilifeform the 'it never happened, and if it did, we had it first' thing has never failed to date.
11:26 mircea_popescu aha. ever-more testing the bounds of insanity, too. it's fun to watch.
11:28 asciilifeform florian weimer et al are 'security professionals' for 'fixing' holes after the fact (self-planted, but who will print this.) whereas we are 'nutters' for removing the cancerous tissue preemptively.
11:28 mircea_popescu aha.
11:28 mircea_popescu there is nothing wrong with this.
11:29 felipelalli http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-01-2016#1384165 << asciilifeform why (about OpenBSD "needs to be helped die") do you think so?
11:29 assbot Logged on 24-01-2016 15:13:09; asciilifeform: in principle, i like the lightweight, pedigreed, and 'hackable on' bsd family, e.g., netbsd. but imho openbsd is something that probably needs to be helped die
11:29 asciilifeform felipelalli: try reading the thread ?
11:29 trinque I read it, did not find it conclusive.
11:29 felipelalli trinque, the same
11:29 mircea_popescu but ask better question than "why do you think so"
11:29 asciilifeform !s openbsd dbus
11:29 assbot 5 results for 'openbsd dbus' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=openbsd+dbus
11:30 trinque so you don't like ports
11:30 mircea_popescu in general - if the question you are about to ask could come out of a psychanalist, do yourself the favour and save yourself the wrath.
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11:30 trinque this is distinct from talking about openbsd
11:30 asciilifeform trinque: SO THE MOTHERFUCKING OS IS UNUSABLE
11:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00055953 = 16.4502 BTC [-]
11:30 trinque this is absurd
11:30 asciilifeform there is no openbsd sans the ports.
11:30 trinque horse shit; I've built all manner of things myself
11:30 asciilifeform as have i.
11:30 asciilifeform a torn out kernel is not 'openbsd', it is bsd.
11:31 asciilifeform the thing is an ensemble, like gentoo
11:31 asciilifeform and normally used as such.
11:31 trinque do you have a particular vintage of linux kernel you prefer?
11:31 BingoBoingo felipelalli: alf hates the OpenBSD ports turdage which has lots of shitgnomery and the occasional userland shitgnomery
11:31 asciilifeform trinque: vintage is not the right word
11:31 trinque because from where I sit the most recent ones have an obscene amount of "features" bolted on which I do not use
11:32 asciilifeform i have a number of kernels painfully prepared for different boxes
11:32 asciilifeform that are quite entirely different
11:32 mircea_popescu bespokeos
11:32 asciilifeform and each took some days of manual sewing, to produce
11:32 asciilifeform and i imagine most folks here have - same.
11:32 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> there is no openbsd sans the ports. << The userland is enough for a webserver/firewall/etc box
11:32 felipelalli At least they really care about security. I tried to compile Bitcoin Core in OpenBSD once but I couldn't (in a quick & dirt attempt).
11:32 trinque ^ that much is true, and something I quite like
11:32 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: understand, if i can't build and run emacs and its dependencies, the os is fit for 'bury in concrete' only - e.g., router
11:33 asciilifeform and quite likely not even this
11:33 asciilifeform because whatever prevents a sane emacs build, is likely to interfere with other work
11:33 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But for many purposes that's all box needs to do. Emacs up the text somewhere else.
11:33 asciilifeform in the case of openbsd, it is that virtually all of the major ports pull in dbus.
11:33 trinque I can agree readily that's a sin
11:33 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: it is flagrantly unfit for battleship
11:34 BingoBoingo Battle ship and frigate are different boats.
11:34 asciilifeform and in fact its mere inclusion of dbus spoils the entire nominal flavour of 'sane and security-oriented'
11:34 trinque it is whether linux is fit(ter) that I question.
11:34 felipelalli http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1406979 << lol mircea!
11:34 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 16:30:16; mircea_popescu: in general - if the question you are about to ask could come out of a psychanalist, do yourself the favour and save yourself the wrath.
11:34 asciilifeform it is a rat-sized cockroach in a fine restaurant.
11:34 asciilifeform right on my plate.
11:34 BingoBoingo But anyways the enemy here is m:tier specifically
11:35 trinque it causes me to seriously consider producing a ports tree of my own
11:35 asciilifeform trinque: linux (at least a reasonably well-cultivated linux) is ispo facto 'fitter' on account of having the ability to build emacs sans dbus.
11:35 asciilifeform understand, this is NOT negotiable.
11:35 trinque I run without dbus as well, and understand fully why this is a Good Thing
11:36 asciilifeform i was unable even to build most logging demons from ports
11:36 asciilifeform because dbus.
11:36 asciilifeform now the other thing about openbsd is the incident with theo and that microshit flunkie
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11:36 asciilifeform the one who approved spitting in mircea_popescu's face after the donation.
11:37 asciilifeform and the one who presides over the 'hackathon' vermin while theo (who is afflicted with some peculiar stockholm syndrome) starves in a garret
11:37 mircea_popescu i would say that openbsd pre 2014 and openbsd post 2014 are entirely unrelated entities.
11:38 asciilifeform this is abundantly clear
11:38 mircea_popescu the tenuous thread of theo's own person is not enough to keep this shit together, because he's too jwz-ish to engage the more important half - politics.
11:38 mircea_popescu so in this sense... lizzards got petrified, moved in, stole it.
11:38 mircea_popescu at least that's my interpretation of events.
11:39 BingoBoingo ALso possible, Theo's wrath bit is losing sensistivity as he ages
11:39 asciilifeform the more interesting question is how they managed to steal it without buying theo
11:39 trinque I can see all this, yet meanwhile linux has hypervisors and keychains and complex abstractions around "namespaces" and "containers" and ...
11:39 BingoBoingo They stole theo's inner circle.
11:39 asciilifeform and the answer likely involves him having been surrounded by quislings for ~years~
11:40 asciilifeform trinque: they are removable
11:40 BingoBoingo Likely starting with the Bob Beck fellow
11:40 asciilifeform this is key.
11:40 trinque asciilifeform: yes, but did they not affect decisions elsewhere in the kernel?
11:40 asciilifeform trinque: certainly
11:40 trinque I have spent countless hours pruning a kernel config
11:41 asciilifeform but there is not ~yet~ a linux kernel equivalent of dbus cancer
11:41 asciilifeform though the systemd folks are working day and night, for this.
11:41 trinque asciilifeform: were the dbusified ports tree otherwise, would that change your assessment of obsd?
11:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> the more interesting question is how they managed to steal it without buying theo << this is deeply uninteresting, as it's well documented. see for instance http://trilema.com/2016/the-womans-fault/#selection-89.0-89.179
11:41 assbot The woman's fault on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RJSkhr )
11:41 asciilifeform trinque: i have nfi what ~else~ is systematically broken
11:41 mircea_popescu the current crop of bois have all the patriotism of a wet noodle.
11:41 asciilifeform only got as far as dbus.
11:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: unfortunately the highlight thing displays ~nowhere~ i've tried it on.
11:42 asciilifeform not even crapple!
11:42 mircea_popescu darn.
11:42 mircea_popescu "the young man's father, a smart fellow who has bought hook line and sinker into the theory that satisfying the desires of women is more important than satisfying the needs of men."
11:42 asciilifeform what do i need, to excatate ie6 ?!
11:42 asciilifeform *excavate
11:42 mircea_popescu it similarly works on everything i try, so i dunno. tis sad tho.
11:43 mircea_popescu i really liked the indicating.
11:43 asciilifeform possibly the folks for whom it works, should chime in ?
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11:43 asciilifeform re: what browser etc.
11:44 asciilifeform but i still don't get (am i thick?) the point about 'the patriotism' of 'the bois'
11:44 mircea_popescu so ask a q.
11:45 asciilifeform what in this case means patriotism ? who are the bois ?
11:45 asciilifeform where do i even begin
11:45 mircea_popescu the boi, in this case, is theo de radt, but he's not so dissimilar from any other esl speaker.
11:45 mircea_popescu patriotism, in this case, is a willingness to die to defend your territory, as you define it - NOT as some woman defines it.
11:45 asciilifeform waitasec i thought he was from za ?!!
11:45 asciilifeform esL?
11:46 mircea_popescu a fine example in this vein would be the case of a late night trip, during which a drunk hobo on the street started growling, and a random, accountant-looking bypasser yelled him down.
11:46 mircea_popescu esl - english as a single language.
11:46 asciilifeform yeah but is he ?
11:46 mircea_popescu apparently.
11:46 * asciilifeform did not know this.
11:47 mircea_popescu people can have french loess without being ethnically french. it's a mental illness, not anything else.
11:47 asciilifeform loess?
11:48 trinque the state is the ultimate owner of all property, so they told the bois. how then could anyone possibly have territory?
11:48 mircea_popescu tough.
11:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform now think about it : would random usian engage hobo on the grounds that "fuck you, be quiet, you're living on MY street" on the simple grounds of ~having been passing by there~ ?
11:51 mircea_popescu this is patriotism, in perhaps an extreme degree.
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11:51 asciilifeform can hardly picture this.
11:51 asciilifeform maybe in 1900.
11:52 mircea_popescu "it's my fucking street, because i am walking on it, and if you wish to be here, you'll play by my rules, all of them, right now"
11:52 mircea_popescu obviously this makes it difficult to office drone.
11:52 asciilifeform it is not only that 'office drone' has no knife and never swung a fist in his life and etc. as mircea_popescu probably imagines. though all of this is true. it is ALSO that the street is NOT HIS
11:52 asciilifeform it is... a hotel.
11:52 mircea_popescu quite.
11:52 asciilifeform 'where is the man who will die for a hotel?'
11:53 mircea_popescu which has its advantages.
11:53 mircea_popescu and... its disadvantages
11:53 asciilifeform i've lived in usa since '92. it remains, to me, a hotel.
11:53 asciilifeform and not the swankiest possible hotel, either.
11:53 mircea_popescu (i am not, as it may appear on the strength of the rarity of such arcane knowledge, proposing that this is some sort of better or ideal solution. it is merely different. lettuce not fall into 1900s orientalism over here.)
11:53 asciilifeform just a 'roach motel.'
11:53 mircea_popescu well... so now you see why exactly i say patriotism. who the fuck dies to defend... 8ball motels ?
11:54 asciilifeform only an idiot
11:54 asciilifeform or, perhaps, owner
11:55 mircea_popescu yeah. meanwhile, as far as usable software is concerned, ownership is both an absolute bar to shitgnomery and as near as i can determine the only workable basis.
11:55 mircea_popescu and so here we are.
11:56 mircea_popescu contrary to what the kids [like to {pretend like they're}] think{ing}, coding ability is a relatively unimportant consideration. political ability, in the very simple sense of a mental capacity for ownership, is the larger half.
11:56 asciilifeform who needs engine, when you have wheels!
11:56 asciilifeform l0l
11:57 asciilifeform but elementarily, 'coding ability' as a concept is a lie
11:57 asciilifeform the interesting variable here is the ability to ~select problems~
11:57 mircea_popescu myeah.
11:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00056339 = 19.775 BTC [+] {2}
11:58 asciilifeform (rather than what is normally presented as 'coding ability' in idiot industry, this being - quickly and accurately solving the non-problems posed by non-people)
11:58 mircea_popescu so there you go.
11:59 * trinque understands better (he thinks) the "keep it" in "a republic, if you can keep it", and also the absurdity of to whom that was supposedly addressed
11:59 mircea_popescu aha.
11:59 mircea_popescu it was said, amusingly... to a woman.
12:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00056665 = 6.7431 BTC [+]
12:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00056767 = 5.2793 BTC [+]
12:10 BingoBoingo Reality distortion field "Bingo Boingo is 100% totally rational and completely unbiased. He is not at all a shill. Nope." https://archive.is/hNMQ7
12:10 assbot Most Bitcoin Clients Affected By GLIBC DNS Vulnerability (Includes Core, Classic, and XT) : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/20BF6DR )
12:11 mircea_popescu so by this logic they don't believe in "bringing democracy" to various countries, because the people arguing for it are obvious usg shills ?
12:11 BingoBoingo seriously
12:11 asciilifeform imho the enemy simple isn't bleeding enough.
12:11 asciilifeform why should the folks who ran glibc still have coin?
12:11 asciilifeform *simply
12:12 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1407058 << it never worked for me, which I think i pointed out when it was first deployed. Ironically, I was the inspiration for the select script being included into trilema in the first place. It works for me if I am the one who did the selecting.
12:12 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 16:43:29; asciilifeform: possibly the folks for whom it works, should chime in ?
12:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform so weaponize it and collect.
12:12 mircea_popescu danielpbarron weird.
12:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform danielpbarron does it work for you on archive.is ?
12:13 danielpbarron if if do the selecting, yes
12:13 danielpbarron if you, i don't know
12:13 mircea_popescu let's try.
12:13 mircea_popescu https://archive.is/hNMQ7#selection-2171.7-2171.27
12:13 assbot Most Bitcoin Clients Affected By GLIBC DNS Vulnerability (Includes Core, Classic, and XT) : btc ... ( http://bit.ly/20BFC4I )
12:13 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: needs seat at network chokepoints.
12:14 asciilifeform (to 'collect')
12:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this link - works
12:14 danielpbarron >> be biased, but this
12:14 mircea_popescu holy shit.
12:14 mircea_popescu how the fuck is this possibru even.
12:16 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
12:17 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 407.0, vol: 7801.02754879 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 407.858, vol: 8464.90993 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 407.88, vol: 17914.15908173 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 410.0, vol: 2.05746269 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 420.11415, vol: 40679.23460000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 407.25999, vol: 713.02806616 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 408.973656, vol: 75.03929666 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
12:17 BingoBoingo ;;more
12:17 gribble 414.360801002
12:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/that-spiffy-selection-thing/#selection-63.0-63.28 ?
12:22 assbot That spiffy selection thing. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK0NBa )
12:23 trinque mircea_popescu: that works over here in chrome
12:23 trinque did not earlier
12:23 mircea_popescu nice!
12:25 asciilifeform still nothing.
12:26 asciilifeform (also box with 'chrome')
12:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/house-of-games/#selection-39.230-39.420 ?
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12:36 assbot House of games on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK3DGz )
12:36 mircea_popescu danielpbarron ^
12:36 mircea_popescu and trinque
12:37 asciilifeform works
12:38 asciilifeform but... why ?
12:43 BingoBoingo !up PaulCapestany
12:43 BingoBoingo !up yamamushi
12:43 BingoBoingo Hello PaulCapestany
12:43 PaulCapestany hi
12:43 PaulCapestany sorry, new to this chat, what's the !up about?
12:44 PeterL lets you talk
12:44 yamamushi How does one go about starting out on the WoT ?
12:44 BingoBoingo PaulCapestany: Yes, otherwise you can register a GPG key, introduce yourself, and mebbe voice yourself
12:44 BingoBoingo !help
12:44 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
12:44 yamamushi Thanks
12:44 BingoBoingo ^ that way
12:45 thestringpuller the getting started page is a bit easier to follow tho
12:45 thestringpuller http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets
12:45 PeterL !noob
12:45 PaulCapestany thestringpuller: thanks, checking that out
12:45 PeterL I guess that has not been implemented yet
12:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00056778 = 2.6118 BTC [+]
12:48 BingoBoingo Ah most of the discussion so far is where it is expected https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/463a0r/nearly_all_bitcoin_nodes_affected_by_glibc_dns/
12:48 assbot Nearly All Bitcoin Nodes Affected By Glibc DNS Vulnerability : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK5ScJ )
12:49 mircea_popescu i am proud to announce that a piddle of ddos being currently measured isn't even remotely sufficient.
12:49 mircea_popescu will need moar dakka.
12:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: give'em time, it's lunch hour at ft meade now
12:50 mircea_popescu oic.
12:50 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1407146 >> purple, literotica-level nightmare. At some point, the woman actually says to her friend "this lighter looks like someone gave it to you". They're supposedly refined edumancated women sharin <<
12:50 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 17:36:26; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/house-of-games/#selection-39.230-39.420 ?
12:51 mircea_popescu i see "n A Soundstage - Among The Papier Machee, volume 8, and the make-up and blocking... good lord. Mamet's wife has that short cropped "rape & attempted suicide survivor" look sterile women " ;/
12:51 mircea_popescu damn.
12:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00056767 = 14.7594 BTC [-]
12:54 BingoBoingo !up xccxzx
12:54 BingoBoingo http://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/02/16/1724222/red-hat-google-disclose-severe-glibc-dns-vulnerability-patched-but-widespread
12:54 assbot Red Hat, Google Disclose Severe Glibc DNS Vulnerability; Patched But Widespread - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK77Zr )
12:55 BingoBoingo ^ Qntra linked
12:55 trinque mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/house-of-games/#selection-39.230-39.420 ? << works here.
12:55 assbot House of games on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK3DGz )
12:55 mircea_popescu trinque underlines what text ?
12:55 trinque "purple, literotica-level nightmare. At some point, the woman actually says to her friend "this lighter looks like someone gave it to you". They're supposedly refined edumancated women sharin"
12:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189033 @ 0.00056781 = 107.3348 BTC [+] {2}
12:57 mircea_popescu hm.
12:57 mircea_popescu i see same on ff
12:57 mircea_popescu aite then!
12:58 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the blackout re: trb is more or less total, don't expect miracles
12:59 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Miracles. No. Just slowly building a history. This is how samizdat werkz nao.
13:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you never said, does trilema selection as updated work for you asciilifeform ?
13:03 asciilifeform in last link - worked
13:04 asciilifeform in, e.g., http://trilema.com/2016/the-womans-fault/#selection-89.0-89.179 - still does not
13:04 assbot The woman's fault on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RJSkhr )
13:05 mircea_popescu possibly because cached page ?
13:06 asciilifeform reload did not fix.
13:06 mircea_popescu that's bizarre, they're all fed from the same place.
13:07 asciilifeform nfi!
13:07 mircea_popescu how about http://trilema.com/2016/the-top-3-best-self-introductions-in-bitcoin-assets-to-date/#selection-83.0-85.4
13:07 assbot The top 3 best self-introductions in #bitcoin-assets to date on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK9vzr )
13:07 asciilifeform displays.
13:07 asciilifeform 'ReutersEmily Huh'
13:08 mircea_popescu ha!
13:08 mircea_popescu i'm calling it good.
13:08 asciilifeform i suspect multiline doesn't work.
13:08 asciilifeform because we had this thread before
13:08 asciilifeform and 2-3 word examples mircea_popescu posts, work
13:09 asciilifeform but the real thing - not.
13:09 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-worm/#selection-35.47-43.123 ?
13:09 assbot The worm on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RK9StM )
13:09 asciilifeform works...
13:09 asciilifeform odd.
13:10 trinque browsers can at times be exceedingly impolite when told to refresh.
13:10 mircea_popescu ^
13:15 BingoBoingo !up PaulCapestany
13:15 BingoBoingo !up yamamushi
13:19 thestringpuller I would like to see a rating of webpage compatibility based on how usable it is in lynx or links
13:20 asciilifeform this is reasonably machine-calculable.
13:21 asciilifeform score based on absence of web20isms.
13:23 punkman "works without javascript" is the important part, which is hard to calculate with machine
13:24 punkman because I don't care whether it has 150 embedded webfonts . since I'm not loading them
13:25 deedbot- [Qntra] Markets Favoring Man Over Machine In Upcoming Go Match - http://qntra.net/2016/02/markets-favoring-man-over-machine-in-upcoming-go-match/
13:30 mircea_popescu no js is a reasonable proxy.
13:31 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
13:31 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 406.17, vol: 8171.76179679 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 407.31, vol: 9123.2063 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 406.49, vol: 18764.66928457 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 410.0, vol: 1.62006337 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 419.983675, vol: 40585.68040000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 405.915, vol: 788.53483152 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 409.58487, vol: 79.22826827 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
13:31 BingoBoingo ;;more
13:31 gribble 413.615274557
13:35 mircea_popescu in somewhat other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/37d7f9a17c8ca34763f83b0ded799989/tumblr_nlrq6wqpmH1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
13:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oezfx8 )
13:35 PaulCapestany BingoBoingo hey, I registered my gpg key, apparently I need someone to rate me now?
13:36 mircea_popescu !rate PaulCapestany 1 new blood
13:36 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/41ed47cd56f437d9
13:37 BingoBoingo congrats
13:37 mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.PaulCapestany.1:26e03f3f8070a43066e1e713b353905300404f25e96aae5814beef6d548bcd27
13:37 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for PaulCapestany with note: new blood
13:37 PeterL PaulCapestany who are you? What brings you here?
13:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00055971 = 18.9182 BTC [-] {3}
13:44 PaulCapestany mircea_popescu thanks for the rating
13:44 PaulCapestany PeterL I just kept hearing this IRC channel mentioned in various places, figured I'd check it out
13:45 asciilifeform PaulCapestany: which places ?
13:45 phf nsa.slack.com
13:46 asciilifeform l0l!
13:46 PeterL I just got this email at work: "In celebration of receiving a shipment of Baboon semen please enjoy a cream filled treat in the kitchen."
13:48 BingoBoingo !b 1
13:48 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1HZW5RK.txt )
13:51 mircea_popescu lol PeterL
13:51 mircea_popescu nice to work with people with a sense of homour
13:55 PeterL "homour" - some sort of mesh of "homo" and "humour"?
13:55 mircea_popescu :)
13:56 mircea_popescu just a little strategic dyslexia
14:00 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: *buried* on hn apparently
14:00 asciilifeform mega-unsurprise.
14:01 asciilifeform i don't think i'll bother posting there again.
14:01 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: I think our friend Rober V has alf hellbanned or something.
14:02 BingoBoingo A wild Maxwell appears https://archive.is/7yuoi
14:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKk3OW )
14:03 punkman http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran/Israels-rash-behavior-blew-operation-to-sabotage-Irans-computers-US-officials-say-444970
14:03 assbot Exclusive: Israel’s rash behavior blew operation to sabotage Iran’s computers, US officials say - Middle East - Jerusalem Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKk9WT )
14:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 137450 @ 0.00056794 = 78.0634 BTC [+] {3}
14:06 jurov http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35569281 inspiration for trb :D
14:06 assbot Why is the UK still printing its laws on vellum? - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1RKkM2E )
14:08 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: every time trb is mentioned on reddit, i see this crud re: 'important fixes.'
14:08 asciilifeform what, precisely ?
14:08 asciilifeform the prb folks never fail to disgorge this line
14:08 asciilifeform but what are they talking about ?
14:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu ?
14:09 thestringpuller asciilifeform: Luke-JR claimed that a rogue miner could push TRB nodes with blocks that aren't valid and fool them.
14:09 thestringpuller But that seems not to be feasible in the wild.
14:09 punkman hard to figure this out since they didn't note them in changelogs
14:09 punkman or even commit messages
14:10 thestringpuller asciilifeform: I guess Luke-jr generalized it as "doesn't enforce softforks thus insecure"
14:10 asciilifeform thestringpuller: link ?
14:11 thestringpuller one second
14:12 punkman https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures
14:12 assbot Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures - Bitcoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/20BX1u5 )
14:16 asciilifeform punkman: quite useless page
14:16 asciilifeform (none of the items mentioned therein match thestringpuller's description)
14:16 asciilifeform what am i missing ?
14:16 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: he was never actually even in their wot as far as i can tell
14:17 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> A wild Maxwell appears << it's not "i've asked some of the vagrants i know and they agree <insert random idiocy>" all over again, is it ?
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14:18 punkman https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CVE-2013-2293 sounds like the blackholing thing, maybe
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14:18 assbot CVE-2013-2293 - Bitcoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/20BXZX7 )
14:19 shinohai "The developers of that software put out a bounty to murder one of the developers of Bitcoin Core. Needless to say, no one sane will go anywhere near them." <<< KEK
14:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> mircea_popescu ? <<< you know, if you ask obama what exactly is his contribution past blind tom wiggins he'll also say "important security fixes". it is somehow inadherent to the common mentality of usians to flatly admit "nothing really - i'm just a nigger slave singing for massah, nothing changed in two centuries."
14:22 mircea_popescu so they gotta pretend there's this mystical reservoir of metaphysics that'll readily provide differentiation qs.
14:22 asciilifeform suspected as much.
14:22 punkman did the power rangers ever find a remote code execution vuln?
14:23 asciilifeform punkman: ~created~ plenty
14:23 mircea_popescu we found them, then "they found them first".
14:23 asciilifeform gotta understand how 'finding vulns' actually works.
14:24 mircea_popescu thestringpuller luke-jr also claimed bfl delivered his order. then it turned out it was a "prototype" and outright payola.
14:24 asciilifeform generally it is a process resembling apiculture. no one individually orders a bee to pollinate a particular plant. bees - are introduced, do their thing. likewise dreppers.
14:24 mircea_popescu he's a well known liar, next you're going to what, tell me what karpeles said ?
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14:27 mircea_popescu <shinohai> "The developers of that software put out a bounty to murder one of the developers of Bitcoin Core. Needless to say, no one sane will go anywhere near them." <<< KEK << needless to say, no one "sane" for that definition of sane has anything of any value or interest to offer, to anyone.
14:27 ben_vulpes lol who said that
14:28 shinohai For an extra 1 BTC we could erase MAxwell too!
14:28 asciilifeform incidentally, who remembers how kennedy put $1 on fidel castro's head ?
14:28 mircea_popescu amusingly, castro's dollar bought more kennedy than kennedy's dollar bought castro.
14:29 asciilifeform (legend has it that some former fucktoy of castro's got as far as his office, in hopes of claiming bounty, he handed her a pistol himself, 'do it', she did not)
14:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14065 @ 0.00055638 = 7.8255 BTC [-] {3}
14:34 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1407285 << 'Note that the attacker does not need to sign the inputs nor to have the full block-chain to perform the attack. He only requires the hashes of all previous transactions...' << why not check the sigs ~first~, before fetching anything ?
14:34 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 19:18:49; punkman: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CVE-2013-2293 sounds like the blackholing thing, maybe
14:34 asciilifeform handy kill.
14:34 phf "important fixes" is the equivalent of "here be dragons" from medieval cartography
14:35 mircea_popescu more like the equivalent of "domestic bliss" from the lulzy institution of singles-marriage.
14:35 mircea_popescu that enchanted thing that never existed except in retrospect, when some derp is complaining to the judge that someone else "ruined it".
14:35 mircea_popescu except if it were actually present, no "ruining" would have been possible
14:36 asciilifeform incidentally i see no reason why any trb node ought to allow a tx (mempool, vs in-block) to consume more cpu time than it took to receive from the nic.
14:36 asciilifeform as per the 'nobody gets jack shit just for showing up' law.
14:37 asciilifeform ultimately, there are precisely two kinds of possible bitcoin node:
14:37 asciilifeform 1) the kind that processes ALL INPUTS at LINE SPEED
14:38 asciilifeform 2) the kind that is behind impenetrable and entirely nonpublic wall, a la gossipd, and deals only with cryptoidentifiable peers.
14:38 asciilifeform tertium non datur.
14:39 asciilifeform of course this is a trick question, because presently no box on the net is a (1)
14:40 asciilifeform except possibly for a disconnected one.
14:43 thestringpuller asciilifeform: yea I can't find it. i don't feel like wasting more time on it. he basically just said, "This client is forked from out of date thing which is insecure cause rogue miner blah blah blah"
14:46 ben_vulpes punkman: jpost bit is plarious
14:50 asciilifeform thestringpuller: snore.
14:52 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1407297 << on that note, one time in his #yandere channel he lied about whether he was the yandere or not, and killed everyone :<
14:52 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 19:24:38; mircea_popescu: he's a well known liar, next you're going to what, tell me what karpeles said ?
14:52 punkman ;;ud plarious
14:52 gribble Google found nothing.
14:54 danielpbarron when i play games in which i might be a secret bad guy type thing, I still don't lie about it. I just don't say anything one way or the other. This means not talking too much even as one of the good guys, so it won't look out of place when I'm a bad guy
14:55 ben_vulpes punkman: pretty hilarious
14:55 ben_vulpes danielpbarron: yandere?
14:55 danielpbarron a bot randomly assigns roles to anyone who wants to play, at least one of which is a murder guy called the 'yandere'
14:56 danielpbarron the good guys have to figure out who he is over the course of days and nights. The yandere can optionally kill people at night
14:56 punkman also known as "werewolf" or "mafia"
14:57 danielpbarron there's lots of similar games; I prefer one called "The Resistance"
14:57 danielpbarron where there are opponents of an oppresive distopian government as good guys, and goverment agent spies as bad guys trying to sabotage the missions
14:58 danielpbarron requires a minimum of 5 players though, so it's nearly impossible to play
15:01 asciilifeform i think we play this here...
15:01 punkman heh
15:03 danielpbarron !b 5
15:03 assbot Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/36GHHD3.txt )
15:03 danielpbarron how does this bash command work? is that automatically submitted to b.b-a.link or am I supposed to use that dpaste to submit it manually?
15:04 punkman it's submitted
15:04 danielpbarron ah, cool
15:07 danielpbarron !up grahvity|||
15:17 mircea_popescu "* An example of Red Hat's "find and fix the whole issue, not just the obvious part", is shell shock. After the initial CVE for shell shock, several people proposed different ways of fixing it. Florian was one, he quickly worked on it and released a proposed patch. Over the next few days there were three MORE CVEs for shell shock, covering different variations on the same theme. Florian's initial patch covered all of t
15:17 mircea_popescu hem, including the ones that hadn't been fully characterized when he proposed it. His approach was approved by general consensus and that's what we all use today - partly because he put in the time and effort to fix the broader issue, not just the specific case that had been identified. This approach means that sometimes it takes Red Hat a while to release a fix, but when they do, it's the right fix."
15:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33845 @ 0.00055631 = 18.8283 BTC [-] {2}
15:19 mircea_popescu apparently a nude statemet of "florian werner knew exactly what the hole was, to an extent larger than what was at the time specified" doesn't coalesce into "holy shit, florian weimer puts the security holes in there!"
15:19 mircea_popescu why not ? how did he know ?
15:19 mircea_popescu "security fixes!"
15:20 mircea_popescu "hard work". bla-bla.
15:20 mircea_popescu intentional self-castration is a helluva thing.
15:22 asciilifeform brain-melting.
15:22 mircea_popescu one ray morris.
15:25 asciilifeform same story as, e.g., heartbleed.
15:26 mircea_popescu notrly.
15:26 asciilifeform in the sense that b-a was the only publicly-visible hole in the 'consensus reality'
15:28 mircea_popescu a, in that sense. yeah.
15:36 davout ohai all
15:37 thestringpuller hai davout
15:38 asciilifeform hi davout
15:38 shinohai o/ davout
15:38 asciilifeform how's life among the minarets of al-paris ?
15:38 davout noisy five times a day
15:39 asciilifeform i saw a fella kneel down towards mecca on a sheet of ice, last weekend
15:39 asciilifeform mega-dedication.
15:40 davout old, but related http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2011/08/30/toujours-pas-de-solution-pour-mettre-un-terme-aux-prieres-de-rue-a-paris_1565538_3224.html
15:40 assbot Toujours pas de solution pour mettre un terme aux prières de rue à Paris ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjtdTF )
15:41 davout anyway, the glibc dns drama seems to be yielding large amounts of lulz and butthurt
15:42 davout "we can't remove this thing from our code because it breaks some unnecessary feature, also random reasons maybe" <-> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/46354z/most_bitcoin_clients_affected_by_glibc_dns/d027oy0
15:42 assbot nullc comments on Most Bitcoin Clients Affected By GLIBC DNS Vulnerability ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qjto19 )
15:42 shinohai maxwell is butthurt beyond words.
15:43 * shinohai apply to butthurt: ( ::: [ ] ::: )
15:46 thestringpuller ^-- that looks like an anus
15:46 davout mircea_popescu: care to x.eur pl0x?
15:47 PeterL thestringpuller are those freckles or pimples?
15:52 mircea_popescu o hey there.
15:52 mircea_popescu yeah on it.
15:54 mircea_popescu davout feel free to remind them that they can keep whatever gunk they like in their IRRELEVANT distro. bitcoin foundation has bitcoin covered, nobody needs them for any purpose.
15:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44417 @ 0.00056656 = 25.1649 BTC [+] {2}
15:56 mircea_popescu shinohai> maxwell is butthurt beyond words. << feel free to link him to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1407284
15:56 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 19:17:04; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo> A wild Maxwell appears << it's not "i've asked some of the vagrants i know and they agree <insert random idiocy>" all over again, is it ?
15:56 mircea_popescu this "experts" bullshit never gets old.
15:56 mircea_popescu when will redditards learn that YOU DO NOT SPEAK AGAINST THE REPUBLIC ?
15:56 asciilifeform our of curiosity, anybody know what maxwell does for a living ?
15:56 asciilifeform *out of
15:57 mircea_popescu what do you mean "for a living" ?
15:57 mircea_popescu he eats the government cheese, just like everyone else in ebt land.
15:57 asciilifeform but ~which~ cheese.
15:57 mircea_popescu you know, the stuff they give for free at walmart ?
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20023 @ 0.00056795 = 11.3721 BTC [+]
15:57 asciilifeform prolly not literally ?
15:57 mircea_popescu ever met a 40 yo phd ?
15:57 mircea_popescu yes literally.
15:58 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: met hundreds
15:58 mircea_popescu !up stec
15:59 Stec oh, nice
15:59 Stec hello all of
15:59 mircea_popescu hi. who're you ?
16:00 Stec Bitcoin enthusiast from Russia
16:01 punkman asciilifeform: works at blockstream iirc
16:02 Stec I have 5 full node
16:02 asciilifeform punkman: ty. i suspected something of the kind.
16:02 mircea_popescu Stec are you running trb on them ?
16:03 Stec trb?
16:03 mircea_popescu the real bitcoin. as opposed to the pr-bitcoin.
16:04 mircea_popescu Stec http://thebitcoin.foundation/ << especially the mailing list.
16:04 assbot ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JZPY9X )
16:05 BingoBoingo My the logs accumulate after steppign away from the screen just a bit.
16:05 Stec I think to install one
16:05 mircea_popescu go for it. with the scripts mod6 provides it's a breeze
16:05 Stec accidentally found trb
16:05 mircea_popescu and iirc he was looking for more testers.
16:06 Stec 5 nodes running on bitcoin core
16:06 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo hey, knc is firing people.
16:06 Stec what an idea trb?
16:07 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Where? Did the stabbing go to far? WHy are they brining guns into this?
16:07 Stec clean code Satoshi
16:07 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well in the good tradition of shitcorps, they're opaque as mud, but apparently 20 or so.
16:07 mircea_popescu Stec also get registered with assbot
16:08 mircea_popescu !h
16:08 assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
16:09 Stec what an idea trb?
16:09 shinohai Stec: http://thebitcoin.foundation
16:09 assbot ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UQkfe3 )
16:10 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You got a submission with your knc truefax?
16:10 mircea_popescu notrly
16:10 asciilifeform Stec: рекомендую познакомиться с исходиками trb, не пожалеешь
16:10 BingoBoingo K, I found a source in Swedish
16:11 Stec Я так понимаю задумка этого проекта это чистый код от Satoshi
16:12 mircea_popescu pretty much yes.
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16:13 asciilifeform Stec: не совсем - вылечили некоторые глюки, и убрали всякое лишнее
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16:14 Stec Разве команда Bitcoin core отходит от задумки Satoshi
16:15 asciilifeform Stec: шутишь ?
16:15 thestringpuller ит от задумки Satoshi
16:15 Stec XT отходит от задумки
16:16 thestringpuller oops.
16:16 Stec Classic тоже
16:16 mircea_popescu why do you suppose "the ideas of satoshi" are of any particular interest anyway ? or whatever is this.
16:17 Stec погодите ребята, я не пойму. Я всегда думал что разработчики Core были только за идею Satoshi
16:17 mircea_popescu what is "the satoshi idea" ?
16:17 jurov ;;ticker --market bitcoin-central --currency eur
16:17 gribble Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker | Best bid: 365.1, Best ask: 370.96, Bid-ask spread: 5.86000, Last trade: 370.8, 24 hour volume: 76.79598587, 24 hour low: 353.02, 24 hour high: 370.84, 24 hour vwap: 365.74033294
16:19 Stec Использовать единые правила, не делать хардфорки
16:19 asciilifeform Stec: 'core' под пиндосским колпаком года 4-5
16:20 Stec парни из classic делают разкол в сети
16:21 Stec Раскол сети, это же плохо зачем нужны вообще форки в 2 мегабайта
16:21 deedbot- [Qntra] KncMiner Cuts Of 20% Of Employees - http://qntra.net/2016/02/kncminer-cuts-of-20-of-employees/
16:21 Stec двойная трата
16:22 Stec Так значит Core и вся команда уже не следует постулатам Satoshi
16:22 Stec trb не форк?
16:22 punkman BingoBoingo: > "compromising 20% of their workforce"
16:23 asciilifeform Stec: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1407433 <<
16:23 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 21:13:52; asciilifeform: Stec: не совсем - вылечили некоторые глюки, и убрали всякое лишнее
16:23 BingoBoingo punkman: ty, fxd used to using the other word more
16:23 asciilifeform Stec: а в остальном - 0.5.3
16:23 Stec Это же очень старая версия
16:24 Stec но она чистая, я так понял
16:24 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo plox to make the link to "you dare offend mp with your inept posturing, you die" point.
16:24 Stec у меня ноды работают все на 11.2
16:24 mircea_popescu mayhap it helps some other idiots somewhere down the line.
16:25 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I forget where did kncminer offend you. I'm juggling all the things right nao.
16:25 asciilifeform Stec: после 0.5.3 - 'core' == торжество вредителей
16:25 thestringpuller "yay lets work for this bitcoin company" ---- 5 months later ----> "oh no I got laid off!"
16:25 Stec Я готов выделить пару серверов для trb
16:26 asciilifeform anybody got a link to mod6's guide handy ?
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16:26 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo weren't they one of the "supporters" of random forks ?
16:26 Stec Вы думаете Core со временем угробит Bitcoin
16:27 Stec Разве разработчики из Classic не сделают это раньше
16:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16486 @ 0.00056766 = 9.3584 BTC [-]
16:27 BingoBoingo Who even knows anymore, but until the Pete Relations firm opens up shoop I'm trying to juggle all of the propaganda myself. I might add it if I see it or if you find it first perhaps comment it up.
16:27 BingoBoingo Comments seems like fine place for gloating.
16:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know, not ot be an asshole, but anything past brief inserts is pretty noisy to anyone but the select few who happen to read the language/
16:28 BingoBoingo !up Stec
16:28 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my work is done
16:28 BingoBoingo ;;later tell pete_dushenski seriously you gotta get on this MiniTruth business
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16:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:29 asciilifeform fella says he wants to try trb.
16:29 asciilifeform needs recipe.
16:29 Stec I'm sorry, I would like to speak English but I know it is bad
16:29 thestringpuller What is MiniTruth again?
16:30 thestringpuller !s minitruth
16:30 assbot 3 results for 'minitruth' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=minitruth
16:30 asciilifeform Stec: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin
16:31 assbot the_real_bitcoin [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/238YcVW )
16:31 Stec Спасибо
16:31 jurov thestringpuller: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PropagandaMachine?from=Main.TheMinistryOfTruth
16:31 assbot Propaganda Machine - TV Tropes ... ( http://bit.ly/1WqfkkR )
16:32 Stec asciilifeform откуда вы?
16:33 asciilifeform Stec: 'мой адрес - не дом и не улица, мой адрес - советский союз' (TM) (R)
16:33 asciilifeform let's try to stick to eng.
16:34 Stec hah, ok
16:34 jurov heh, советский человек ftw!
16:35 asciilifeform Stec: let us know if you have any problem building trb.
16:35 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371728
16:35 assbot Logged on 15-01-2016 21:09:08; thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: KNC miner also committed as well.
16:36 mircea_popescu should be a pretty good entry.
16:36 Stec I have no problem to install a couple of three servers
16:36 BingoBoingo Ah, you mean the fork where they said every pool had committed and Antminer was the only sucker who actually did?
16:36 mircea_popescu great opportunity to improve your english also Stec :)
16:36 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no, this was the "classic" fork.
16:37 asciilifeform Stec: start by building the code. we don't distribute binaries.
16:37 mircea_popescu in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrh5atJHWs1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
16:37 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjxVAA )
16:37 asciilifeform Stec: you need gcc on any reasonable unix. that's all. trb will build a new compiler, and with it will build itself.
16:38 phf we have replace all bitcoin crypto with GOST 28147-89, next step own koi8-r cyrillic based c++ translator
16:38 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Yes, the classic fork where they advertise pretty much everyone but F2Pool on their page even today and many of the pools have since fucked off
16:38 asciilifeform phf: don't forget the built in volkov kommander !11
16:38 BingoBoingo But yes will add a note because 2 for 1 lulz
16:38 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo aha.
16:39 mircea_popescu is volkov how you say norton in sputnik ?
16:39 asciilifeform http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/Paradigm/Ch03/volkov_commander.shtml << believe or not
16:39 assbot Volkov Commander - a masterpiece of assembler programming ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qjy6Mn )
16:39 phf send transaction by copy f6 from left tab to right tab
16:39 mircea_popescu lol
16:39 Stec you would know how I found you by accident, to the list of connected nodes
16:40 mircea_popescu did we do the "xtg ruled" thing last time or not rly ?
16:40 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: They still list Bitfury even though Bitfury led the "Let's all pull up our pants before MP gets here effort.
16:40 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo considering they have no reputations or anything similar, they'll prolly list alf there next.
16:40 asciilifeform l0lwutg
16:40 BingoBoingo seriously.
16:40 mircea_popescu mhm.
16:42 danielpbarron i made two comments on the /r/bitcoin redditard thing and they don't appear from archive.is point of view ; I think i recall a moderator explaining to me that my comments in particular require moderator approval
16:43 mircea_popescu you be special!
16:44 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: make more accounts, reddit doesn't check that you use different browsers on the same machine to talk to yourself and make a one man lulz train
16:44 BingoBoingo It's what the Phillipinos do
16:44 danielpbarron that's not my style
16:44 danielpbarron i won't even rejoin irc channels from which i have been simply kicked (not banned)
16:45 mircea_popescu why would you.
16:45 danielpbarron they can come apologize to me if they want me back
16:45 BingoBoingo Hey, I'm just pointing out the limits of the broken
16:46 BingoBoingo Reddit was made exactly for the Phillipino sort of astroturf spammer
16:46 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/02/kncminer-cuts-of-20-of-employees/ << and updated
16:46 assbot KncMiner Cuts Of 20% Of Employees | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjyRF3 )
16:46 Stec Classic 1000 is already connected nodes
16:46 Stec https://bitnodes.21.co/dashboard/
16:46 assbot 24-hour Charts - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjyTwP )
16:47 BingoBoingo Stec: And a lot of them are on free AWS instances
16:48 Stec I agree
16:48 Stec To make it appear
16:49 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "Update: KncMiner is also one of the many mining operations listed to this day as supporting the ClassicCoin fork (along with Bitfury, which led the backpedalling effort after it became obvious Classiccoin does not have nor can acquire the support of key players in the market.)" ?
16:49 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: http://thebitcoin.foundation/test-builds/v0.5.4/amd64/bitcoin-v0_5_4-TEST2.tar.gz << unzip, ./build_bitcoin.sh, make tea
16:49 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LWHUHv )
16:49 ben_vulpes but omg pulls from net
16:50 Stec They outweigh the bulk of the total of connected nodes, and will split
16:51 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: ty, fxd
16:51 BingoBoingo Stec: I've only ever had 2 maximum classic nodes connected to any of mine at the same time.
16:52 shinohai You must use a samovar to make the tea though, if you skip that step your bitcoind may function erratically.
16:52 Stec Samovar, hah
16:53 Stec Самовар это отличная штука
16:53 Stec Частенько сапогом его раздувал
16:55 danielpbarron and you need a slithy tove to make a samovar, and those are very hard to come by
16:56 shinohai ^^
16:56 mircea_popescu lol
16:56 Stec :D
16:57 BingoBoingo What is this samovar business. Real men Just throw lithium ion cells into their water with the tea leaves and a dash of salt.
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16:58 BingoBoingo "vent with fire"
16:58 Stec hahha
16:58 BingoBoingo !up Stec
17:00 shinohai !s http://www.knownaija.com/ibm-has-just-open-sourced-44000-lines-of-blockchain-code-on-github/
17:00 assbot IBM has just open-sourced 44,000 lines of blockchain code on GitHub | KnowNaija ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjA67q )
17:00 assbot 0 results for 'http://www.knownaija.com/ibm-has-just-open-sourced-44000-lines-of-blockchain-code-on-github/' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knownaija.com%2Fibm-has-just-open-sourced-44000-lines-of-blockchain-code-on-github%2F
17:01 mod6 there may be problems here: <+asciilifeform> Stec: let us know if you have any problem building trb.
17:02 mod6 these instructions are out of date
17:02 mircea_popescu are 44k lines of crap better than merely 34k lines of crap ?
17:02 phf BingoBoingo: there's basically a ru equivalent of throwing lion cells, https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/7/7d/Кипятильник.JPG
17:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjAiDH )
17:03 asciilifeform phf: you can get these in usa
17:03 asciilifeform i have one.
17:03 mod6 this is the script that should be run to build: http://www.mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99996_2.sh
17:03 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1XqjVEO )
17:03 mod6 Stec: ^
17:03 phf asciilifeform: i'm having trouble finding one that doesn't burn out
17:03 Stec ok
17:03 BingoBoingo phf: That just gets hot, doesn't vent fire
17:03 trinque shinohai: reads like they redid ethereum
17:04 shinohai trinque: yup, they figured out it is utter shit so they open sauced and hope someone can fix it.
17:04 BingoBoingo phf: Looks a lot like "engine block heater" pretty common in mod6's corner of USia
17:05 asciilifeform https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/46354z/most_bitcoin_clients_affected_by_glibc_dns/d02dax4 << lulzy
17:05 assbot ScatoshiNukamoto comments on Most Bitcoin Clients Affected By GLIBC DNS Vulnerability ... ( http://bit.ly/1PDB8Yp )
17:07 ben_vulpes > blockchain suit
17:07 ben_vulpes > suit
17:07 ben_vulpes wut
17:08 mircea_popescu lol
17:08 mircea_popescu and the land of the lounge lizzards!
17:08 trinque sounds like a sweet suit
17:09 ben_vulpes wrap me in blocks
17:09 ben_vulpes chain me to sleep
17:09 ben_vulpes carbonate my foes
17:14 thestringpuller carbonate ben_vulpes enemies into a nice ginger ale
17:14 thestringpuller enemies tears*
17:17 BingoBoingo What about gingering ale? https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-zUPbl80n6v8/TexCrpVpzfI/AAAAAAAAB7k/sQyj6BPhXRw/s1600/Ginger_Finger_for_Figging.jpg
17:17 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjBC9s )
17:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73748 @ 0.00055854 = 41.1912 BTC [-] {2}
17:23 ben_vulpes drop enemies into centrifuge
17:23 ben_vulpes reduce to liquid
17:23 ben_vulpes pipe liquid into biodiesel reactor
17:23 ben_vulpes burn for electricity
17:23 ben_vulpes centrifuge next derp
17:23 ben_vulpes repeat
17:23 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: are you familiar with the infamous mouse table ?
17:24 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-01-2015#982994 << it
17:24 assbot Logged on 19-01-2015 05:00:20; asciilifeform: http://gizmodo.com/5146254/mousetrap-coffee-table-uses-its-victims-for-fuel
17:24 asciilifeform ^ afaik, the first carnivorous robot
17:25 ben_vulpes aha
17:28 asciilifeform if ben_vulpes just woke up, he's in for a mega-log
17:28 asciilifeform or hm nm
17:28 thestringpuller it's like 9am hippie-ville time
17:29 danielpbarron oh hey my reddit comments got approved! waddayaknow
17:30 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i'm just going to skip over all the rutalk
17:30 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: not missing much
17:30 ben_vulpes also, did symbolics make an awesome spreadsheet editor?
17:31 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: why would you need a spreadshit on a box where you can dynamically conjure a porthole into $arbitrarydatum onto the display ?
17:33 mircea_popescu because.
17:33 mircea_popescu you don't understand women, alfie.
17:33 asciilifeform waiwut?!
17:34 mircea_popescu you expect excel spread sheets are a UTILITY ?
17:34 asciilifeform aha?
17:34 mircea_popescu mno.
17:34 asciilifeform and if used as 'boss screen', can make one wherever?
17:34 mircea_popescu they are a security.
17:34 mircea_popescu they exist to assuage existential anxiety as experienced by females.
17:35 asciilifeform is this still called 'boss screen' or am i behind the times.
17:35 mircea_popescu nothing to do with that.
17:35 asciilifeform then i have nfi?
17:35 mircea_popescu it's not fear. it's anxiety.
17:35 asciilifeform what anxiety ? why females
17:36 mircea_popescu anxiety is a subjective experience of loss of control. tends to be females because of accidents of their anatomy leave a mark in the early psyche.
17:36 mircea_popescu but boys can be taught to live in the same terms np, and plenty do.
17:38 mircea_popescu (george costanza's famous "Ear puberty, nose puberty, knuckle puberty. You gotta be vigilant!" is quite a fine example in that vein.
17:39 asciilifeform even with this,
17:39 asciilifeform more effective number diddler ought to give stronger illusion of control ?
17:40 mircea_popescu not really, the control isn't over the interaction of numbers. the control is over the possibilities of existence.
17:40 mircea_popescu the more powerful the tool actually is, the more it exposes possibilities, necessarily. and perversely, the more threatening it is to the typical she-office drone.
17:41 mircea_popescu note the acceptance of computers in society as an exact mirror of the use of windows and apple. it's a thing.
17:41 asciilifeform 'visicalc' was a hyperbestseller before all of this, no ?
17:42 asciilifeform ~1mil copies iirc
17:42 mircea_popescu what's 1mn ?
17:42 asciilifeform just the ones ~paid for~
17:43 mircea_popescu if you couldn't find a million not-outright-insane individuals the species would be in serious trouble huh ?
17:43 mircea_popescu we're not discussing the top 1mn here.
17:43 asciilifeform !s visicalc
17:43 assbot 0 results for 'visicalc' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=visicalc
17:43 mircea_popescu we're discussing the bottom five billion.
17:43 asciilifeform y'know, the first electronic spread-shit
17:44 asciilifeform http://bricklin.com/visicalc.htm << author's www
17:44 assbot VisiCalc: Information from its creators, Dan Bricklin and Bob Frankston ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjEXFv )
17:45 mircea_popescu at about the same time, most dudes with computer knowledge were trying to get their so/fuckdoll/cook to try computers, and dollars to donuts she said no because what if she breaks it, and he assured her she can't break it, being the idiot that he was, and that assurance didn't do anything.
17:45 thestringpuller visicalc is the greatest thing ever tho
17:45 asciilifeform https://archive.org/details/a2_VisiCalc_1984_Software_Arts << runable (!)
17:45 assbot VisiCalc : Software Arts : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjF1oR )
17:45 mircea_popescu because of the unspoken "but what if IT breaks ME, you won't fix ME will you".
17:45 thestringpuller proves 100% that excel is the biggest turd ever marketed
17:47 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i confess that i haven't the faintest notion what is meant here
17:47 mircea_popescu but ask a question! what error message is this!
17:47 asciilifeform what kind of animal says 'what if it breaks me!'
17:47 asciilifeform am i just not enough zoophiliac?!
17:48 mircea_popescu ~unspoken~
17:48 mircea_popescu must read all the words!
17:48 asciilifeform make that 'what kind of animal unspokenly moos...'
17:49 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/pets/dog-gets-credit-for-stopping-sexual-assault-in-southeast-missouri/article_99c85664-c858-5d43-b4b1-effa3ebe5210.html
17:49 assbot Dog gets credit for stopping sexual assault in southeast Missouri : Lifestyles ... ( http://bit.ly/1mGdoIE )
17:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i imagine they'd also have a face you don't care for.
17:49 asciilifeform was thinking this also.
17:49 asciilifeform 'i would not, could not, in the zoo! i would not, could not, with a moo'
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17:50 mircea_popescu and why not ?
17:50 mircea_popescu gets slippery all the same.
17:50 asciilifeform i haven't a good why. why won't mircea_popescu do short chicks ?
17:50 asciilifeform goats ?
17:50 asciilifeform chickens ?
17:51 mircea_popescu i confess i actually did a chick that was short and otherwise built entirely like a 12 boy. well, minus the penis, but boobs as big as mine et al.
17:51 mircea_popescu so... don't laugh at the goat, you never know when you'll be riding one.
17:51 * mircea_popescu is kinda half-expecting bb to marry 300lb worth of love.
17:52 asciilifeform l0l!
17:53 mircea_popescu actually her boob is on trilema somewhere
17:53 * BingoBoingo remembers that one from the logs, the annoying one with Candidiasis.
17:54 mircea_popescu wait wut ?!
17:54 asciilifeform anyway my point was not to make fun of the predicament of zoophiliacs, but to confess that i am mostly ignorant of these
17:54 asciilifeform i have nfi what it is really like to have a moo in the house, in the bed.
17:54 asciilifeform and how anyone lives with this.
17:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform let me ask you this, would you prefer a bricked phone to a phone that randomly starts beeping and running interference with your display ?
17:55 asciilifeform i imagine this is how castration cults are born.
17:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: brick.
17:55 mircea_popescu so there's your explanation.
17:55 mircea_popescu "at least the stupid one shuts up."|
17:55 asciilifeform does it ?!
17:56 mircea_popescu yeah. stupid people are never given enough credit. they're broadly speaking pliable, reliable and altogether pleasant.
17:56 asciilifeform in my experience, stupid more or less == 'won't shut up without physical gag'
17:56 mircea_popescu it's mediocre people that have been miseducated that are unbearable.
17:56 mircea_popescu nfwis.
17:56 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> wait wut ?! << The SSBBW who did the pay for tits thing on Trilema and kept popping up in channel for a while trying to peddle more pictures of fold mold.
17:57 shinohai LOL
17:57 shinohai I missed that, a fattie on trilema?
17:57 mircea_popescu da fuck ?!
17:57 asciilifeform l0lwut
17:58 BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/#comment-113390
17:58 assbot I'll pay for your tits on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mGefZN )
17:59 shinohai I have seen 3 whale dominatrices on reddit that accept Bitcoin.
17:59 BingoBoingo shinohai: You mean dominmayos
17:59 shinohai :D
18:00 mircea_popescu lol i completely forgot that.
18:01 shinohai pete_dushenski, just the gentleman I wished to see ...
18:02 pete_dushenski o ?
18:02 shinohai was wondering what height your node was at ...
18:03 shinohai and if you were still experiencing any disconnects?
18:03 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: A severe anti-optimization of drunkeness is where one doesn't get to pick the parts they remeber.
18:05 mircea_popescu lol i bet.
18:05 pete_dushenski shinohai: strangely, almost unprecedentedly, the 99996_2 node is running very smoothly atm. it's at 334k. the difference ? only -connect to a single node instead of 3-5.
18:06 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1407477 << how can i be of service ?
18:06 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 21:28:51; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski seriously you gotta get on this MiniTruth business
18:06 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: wait which one was she on the update list?
18:06 thestringpuller none of those girls look like fat people
18:06 shinohai Mine barfed earlier but has been running fine abt 3 hrs. 316516 height
18:07 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2016#1407467 << http://www.mod6.net/btcf/build-bitcoind-V99996_2.sh ?
18:07 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 21:26:21; asciilifeform: anybody got a link to mod6's guide handy ?
18:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1XqjVEO )
18:08 trinque http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-02-2016#1407666 << ehehehe
18:08 assbot Logged on 16-02-2016 22:49:54; asciilifeform: 'i would not, could not, in the zoo! i would not, could not, with a moo'
18:08 thestringpuller would you like some more gnu?
18:08 pete_dushenski i guess guide != script eh
18:09 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2015#1081554
18:09 assbot Logged on 31-03-2015 22:56:16; SquirtPrincess: http://imgur.com/MwtIflI
18:10 pete_dushenski iz gone
18:10 trinque link's even staler than before
18:10 mircea_popescu http://archive.is/8b5hM << qntra on top of buttcoin. lulz in itself!
18:10 assbot Buttcoin: backed by gold, comedy gold! ... ( http://bit.ly/1QjH4sW )
18:10 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: You know... whatever you planned to do
18:10 mircea_popescu congrats to all the shills.
18:11 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: I think it was deleted
18:11 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Happens rather frequently compared to /r/bitcoin
18:11 pete_dushenski shinohai: my host also just sent me an email apologising for their recent performance and offering next month free as compensation, so i wouldn't be surprised if that was causing the auto-deaths at least.
18:11 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo which is the free speech one ?
18:11 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: Your eyes should be thankful
18:11 thestringpuller LOL
18:11 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: /r/btc
18:11 BingoBoingo the /r/BTC is roger VERified
18:12 thestringpuller all who do not accept bitcoin jesus as their cryptolord and savior are ostracized
18:13 shinohai The top two comments on r/btc are tweets from A.A. Is this Russia Today now?
18:14 BingoBoingo Yes
18:14 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: i planned things now ? hm. best re-read those logs. particularly http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-09-2015#1288874
18:14 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 19:36:25; pete_dushenski: ima mull it over and research a little further into this 'pr' business
18:14 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Well, your adoring pubic is waiting for a decision Lebron.
18:15 pete_dushenski needless to say, i've been poking at it. still not 100% convinced.
18:15 pete_dushenski don't make me have a prime time tv press conpherence
18:16 BingoBoingo Maybe start some dry test runs? Force a meme or something?
18:17 pete_dushenski i'd consider those letters i wrote to peck and lee as 'dry test runs' but mebbe not enough forced meme!
18:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48052 @ 0.00055889 = 26.8558 BTC [+]
18:26 pete_dushenski from the mines, "The [core] reference client isn't reallly intended to be used as a wallet. It's more for nodes and miners. Use hardware wallets, or electrum, or basically anything other than core for a wallet. If you're running core, just think of it as a node your more secure wallet connects to."
18:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47000 @ 0.00055704 = 26.1809 BTC [-] {4}
18:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00056173 = 24.9408 BTC [+] {2}
18:45 thestringpuller antpool jacks all hashpower for classiccoin blocks
18:45 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: We spell it AA without the periods
18:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54000 @ 0.00055632 = 30.0413 BTC [-] {4}
18:56 mircea_popescu aok
18:58 shinohai poor mats, he is using irccloud
18:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42370 @ 0.0005638 = 23.8882 BTC [+] {3}
18:59 shinohai !rate BingoBoingo 2 Thank you for help with first Qntra submission.
18:59 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/3af44ca879c391a5
19:01 shinohai !v assbot:shinohai.rate.BingoBoingo.2:224302a371012a7e132efb7105dc1ccb57a0e4c9a250ee792ac66b5243bdf4a8
19:01 assbot Successfully updated the rating for BingoBoingo from 1 to 2 with note: Thank you for help with first Qntra submission.
19:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92750 @ 0.00056829 = 52.7089 BTC [+] {3}
19:09 mod6 werd up
19:11 shinohai how goes it
19:12 mod6 *whew* busy.
19:12 mod6 gonna grind on this stuff tonight
19:12 mod6 you?
19:12 ben_vulpes i have been poking holes in poor mod6's v implementation for days now
19:13 mircea_popescu dun stress him out now, ye hear ?
19:13 mod6 he's doing good work.
19:13 mod6 just trying to get everything back into sync
19:13 ben_vulpes to be fair quite a few looked to be my fault for using old vdiff versions and other inane pebkacs
19:13 BingoBoingo alf submission update: "reject: low quality" https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/4635y5/glibc_remote_exploit_affects_all_bitcoin_clients/
19:13 assbot GLibc remote exploit affects all Bitcoin clients - except for one. : netsec ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrIj1X )
19:13 mircea_popescu loller.
19:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00056481 = 30.4433 BTC [-] {2}
19:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.QNTR] 38450 @ 0.0004795 = 18.4368 BTC [+] {2}
19:32 asciilifeform the hn post appears to have been zapped entirely.
19:33 asciilifeform mega-unsurprise.
19:34 asciilifeform gotta love the old sack of shit, never disappoints.
19:35 mircea_popescu LOW QUALITY!
19:36 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: hn is lost because ninjashogun is their "spam filter"
19:37 asciilifeform waiwut
19:37 mircea_popescu hahaha what
19:37 asciilifeform !up so
19:40 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: You forgot?
19:40 BingoBoingo ninjashogun is the hn forum janitor
19:40 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i never saw any reason to believe anything from the mouth of mr spam
19:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: His being mr spam is why he was cheap hire for that
19:41 hanbot i thought he was the hn forum jester. they gave him a bucket?
19:41 BingoBoingo I thought they did
19:43 BingoBoingo They needn't even pay him money, but proximity to his church Altman
19:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19887 @ 0.00056351 = 11.2065 BTC [-]
19:46 hanbot i'm sure he's paid in "ideas", as much as i'm sure they'd fail just as hard without him driving a mop
19:49 BingoBoingo They prolly just give him the chance to be heard by various incarnations of Eliza
19:49 * mircea_popescu recalls from his college days that most kids preferred taking exams with easy teachers over taking exams with good teachers.
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19:50 mircea_popescu so... win-win, as they say in loserland.
19:57 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/Y3YdnVu.jpg
19:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1TmY8xa )
20:04 BingoBoingo In other news the latest spammers to buy /. actually ask the users what they want http://slashdot.org/poll/2973
20:04 assbot Slashdot Poll | Regarding videos on Slashdot, should we: ... ... ( http://bit.ly/1WqyhnA )
20:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46513 @ 0.00055669 = 25.8933 BTC [-]
20:05 BingoBoingo !up itkin
20:05 BingoBoingo !up joshbuddy
20:06 mircea_popescu http://49.media.tumblr.com/852f722c238d3065f474c5815f3e5c1c/tumblr_niycb0wlKg1qlne6uo1_400.gif << in other-other news, well trained girls exist.
20:06 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1WqyqYb )
20:07 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: https://cryptome.org/2016/02/brown-0070.pdf << for possible reprocessing into loltronium ?
20:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1WqytTC )
20:09 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Will have to wait 2+ hours. Have to go to cult meeting.
20:10 BingoBoingo But will look
20:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131400 @ 0.00055978 = 73.5551 BTC [+] {2}
20:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24095 @ 0.00055978 = 13.4879 BTC [+] {2}
20:35 asciilifeform mega-blackhole-action today, incidentally.
20:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24505 @ 0.00055828 = 13.6807 BTC [-]
20:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform qntra stayed online, note.
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31327 @ 0.00056412 = 17.6722 BTC [+] {3}
20:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i suppose i underestimated the power of the magical nobody-giving-half-a-fuck field
20:46 mircea_popescu oh, that's what it is.
20:47 asciilifeform for the lack of other hypothesis ?
20:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00056735 = 12.0846 BTC [+] {2}
20:48 shinohai !s http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/judge-forces-apple-help-unlock-san-bernardino-shooter-iphone-n519701
20:48 assbot Judge Forces Apple to Help Unlock San Bernardino Shooter iPhone - NBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkwNq8 )
20:48 assbot 0 results for 'http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/judge-forces-apple-help-unlock-san-bernardino-shooter-iphone-n519701' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fstoryline%2Fsan-bernardino-shooting%2Fjudge-forces-apple-help-unlock-san-bernardino-shooter-iphone-n519701
20:55 mircea_popescu !up eamonnw
20:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the other hypothesis is that republican servers > nsa powers.
20:57 mircea_popescu and in more of the same news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/accfa02eea100e7bade52a5e8a944564/tumblr_niwamsdgFX1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
20:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qkxwrn )
21:08 shinohai !rate danielpbarron 2 Eulorian Elder and priest of tmsr~
21:08 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/07321b80b5df9fd1
21:08 shinohai !v assbot:shinohai.rate.danielpbarron.2:ff63c3e961a9d1a3201f60e625a4ffc7ed3ed811136a77d2a9ee7d9ba7805cb4
21:09 assbot Successfully updated the rating for danielpbarron from 1 to 2 with note: Eulorian Elder and priest of tmsr~
21:09 shinohai ^ did not want to scan
21:11 asciilifeform sooooo
21:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68686 @ 0.00056886 = 39.0727 BTC [+] {3}
21:11 asciilifeform i spent a good spell watching tcpdump with eyeballs
21:12 asciilifeform tcpdump -nnXSs 0 port 8333
21:12 asciilifeform on zoolag, to be specific
21:12 asciilifeform which has been in a black hole state, about 90% of the time, for the past hour.
21:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66114 @ 0.00056956 = 37.6559 BTC [+]
21:13 asciilifeform curiously enough, it turns out that,
21:14 asciilifeform a blackholed trb does not fall silent, but actually is maintaining links with a number of existing peers (bouncing inv's, etc)
21:14 asciilifeform just, not accepting new connections, nor processing tx.
21:14 mircea_popescu right.
21:14 phf re shinohai's raiting, come to think of it future tmsr~ weedings ought to be officiated by danielpbarron
21:15 mircea_popescu o boy. does tmsr recognize marriage with goat ? woman ? no less than 3 ? what ?
21:15 mircea_popescu there's no v-marriage is there ?
21:15 phf topic needs a debate thread
21:16 mircea_popescu preferably on hackereddit.
21:16 mircea_popescu or wait what was that myspace called... twitterbook ?
21:16 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: since we're doing ru theme today, then, pertinently, 'Взял невесту тиху-скромну В чистом поле под кустом, Остра шашка была свашкой,— Штык булатный был дружком.'
21:17 mircea_popescu is this a continuation of the "honey, for a bitcoin i make the holes" ?
21:17 asciilifeform ('i took a bride, quiet and modest, in the field, under a bush, sharp saber was my matchmaker, bayonet - my best man')
21:18 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A7%D1%91%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD_(%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8F) << src
21:18 assbot Чёрный ворон (песня) — Википедия ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkzwjB )
21:18 mircea_popescu aha.
21:18 asciilifeform (for n00bz, old s0ng, of a soldier to a raven who is picking at his still-living flesh)
21:19 danielpbarron i'd imagine you could have a marraige contract signed between husband and father
21:19 danielpbarron wife doesn't need a key
21:19 mircea_popescu as per alf's earlier pronouncements, who'd want a wife like that ?
21:19 asciilifeform keyless wife is liable to get switcheroo'd, also
21:20 mircea_popescu i dun think i could be bothered to plow an unkeyed field tbh.
21:20 mircea_popescu let the ravens do it.
21:20 danielpbarron well i've given this some thought, and i just don't see the point of the wife signing anything about it as she should now act as one flesh with her new husband; if she needs something notarized, let him do it for her
21:21 mircea_popescu why not let her do it for him ?
21:21 danielpbarron that too
21:21 danielpbarron but the point is they are as one key, one flesh
21:21 mircea_popescu it\s a slippery problem.
21:22 danielpbarron it's like the penny auction collsion problem
21:22 mircea_popescu in the old days, woman wouldn't generally appear too trustworthy before she had fucked most everyone. but it's a truly complex point to communicate.
21:22 asciilifeform danielpbarron: unless you are a telepath, you might want to remotely operate the wife and need key
21:22 mod6 how do i know who im talking to
21:22 asciilifeform ^
21:22 asciilifeform danielpbarron: how do you issue an order, or take a dispatch, from a keyless animal ?
21:22 danielpbarron well you could have an unpublished key to use for that purpose
21:22 danielpbarron but that's not the same as an assbot registered key
21:22 mircea_popescu what is this "unpublished key" ?
21:23 asciilifeform ^
21:23 asciilifeform srsly
21:23 danielpbarron a key that only you and her know
21:23 mircea_popescu P stands for protocol, not for promise.
21:23 asciilifeform danielpbarron: and after you wed the bayonet on the field ?
21:23 mircea_popescu danielpbarron since that'd have to be single use, you're better off with otp
21:23 asciilifeform how does wife relay ?
21:23 danielpbarron so use otp then
21:23 mircea_popescu but otp can't sign.
21:24 danielpbarron why does everything need to be a cow or how does it go?
21:24 mircea_popescu how do you communicate the concept of "her ladyship died this morn" if she has no key ?
21:24 asciilifeform danielpbarron: but that is precisely the picture you have drawn: keyless cow.
21:25 asciilifeform yes, one can marry cow.
21:25 asciilifeform but this has distinct down-sides.
21:25 mircea_popescu can one ?
21:25 mircea_popescu i'm not entirely sure i'd recognize cow marriage. heck, im doubtful about same gender marriage.
21:25 asciilifeform in a strictly psychiatric sense.
21:25 danielpbarron wives are not that much unlike cattle are they?
21:25 mircea_popescu i thought phf was trolling us with tmsr sense.
21:25 asciilifeform the way people 'marry' bricks, forks, the color purple.
21:25 mircea_popescu danielpbarron depends on the wife.
21:26 danielpbarron aren't you the one that said there should be a market for wives or something?
21:26 mircea_popescu computers aren't much unlike shoe boxes, either.
21:26 mircea_popescu but this is not something anyone relishes.
21:26 * phf cackles
21:26 mircea_popescu danielpbarron plox to link me!
21:26 mod6 part of this goes back to, "that sovereigns and sovereigns alone are entitled to anything they may take for themselves," ; as a sovereign you make take the brides you wish, but if you want to make it a deed, signatories must be in the wot.
21:27 danielpbarron mircea_popescu, http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-14.log.html#t03:51:36
21:27 assbot #Eulora log for Sunday, 2016-02-14 ... ( http://bit.ly/1U6Pjbu )
21:27 danielpbarron >> but the trade in mates is intended to be a major economic factor.
21:27 mircea_popescu that's in eulora!
21:27 danielpbarron so?
21:27 mircea_popescu well it's a game, set in a fantasy medieval-ish setting!
21:28 mircea_popescu it has the power of prayer, magic and all sorts of bizarre.
21:28 danielpbarron it's the most realistic game i ever played
21:28 mircea_popescu this it may well be.
21:29 mircea_popescu this aside, the trade in mates has been historically and will permanently remain a major economic factor. as unwilling to admit people may find themselves. nevertheless, it's rarely an actual market.
21:29 mircea_popescu (trade does not need a market to happen, note)
21:29 danielpbarron true i wouldn't call it any sort of market
21:29 danielpbarron or it's more of a decentralized trade
21:30 danielpbarron prospective husband goes to father of prospective wife
21:30 mircea_popescu more of a doublespoken one, too. hence veblen goods and the trillion a year cosmetics industry.
21:30 danielpbarron or guy finds young girl in field, takes her, father insists they now marry
21:30 mircea_popescu it's not entirely clear father has much say.
21:31 danielpbarron king has say
21:31 mircea_popescu mmm.
21:31 mircea_popescu how do kings work in a republic ?
21:32 danielpbarron they get killed
21:32 mircea_popescu lol
21:32 mircea_popescu you seriously proposing someone should get killed because dude stumbled over nude girlie ?
21:33 danielpbarron wait who should be killed in that situation?
21:33 mircea_popescu a little death. let's not exaggerate.
21:33 mircea_popescu i dunno, i'm trying to follow what you';re saying here.
21:33 danielpbarron i meant in a republic the king gets killed
21:34 mircea_popescu well then he can't have much say can he ?
21:34 mod6 for instance, what if the king of jordan wanted to be in TMSR? why wouldn't autocrats be able to be in the wot?
21:34 mircea_popescu mod6 i don't see why he couldn't be.
21:34 mod6 just because 'king' doesn't mean they still can't get neg rating
21:34 mod6 so, no problem.
21:34 danielpbarron i guess i was imagining the reverse, a republic under a king
21:35 mircea_popescu well, it does mean they can afford to pay if they fuck something up, so neg rating kinda less likely.
21:35 mod6 but still, individuals may come, and try, there's a fresh crop every year.
21:36 mod6 further, some make it, most don't.
21:36 mircea_popescu speaking of the king of jordan and his mercedes, http://40.media.tumblr.com/fb142efbdc04ec9115a00b342da8e762/tumblr_nir0r5aLaw1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
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21:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QkBeS1 )
21:39 mod6 and also in other news... I'm going to publish a one line change to add a bit more strictness (less fuzz) to the map building part of V -- was basically overlooked on the last beta patch (#3). So this one will be #4, and barring any further big issues, this should be it.
21:40 mod6 Should be ready for a new V release by the weekend.
21:41 mod6 This will allow for us to get everything back into sync; new V, new build script, new instructions in the wiki.
21:42 mod6 Then I can finally turn my attention to what I said I was going to do this month: the makefiles.
21:42 mod6 :]
21:42 phf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-02-2016#1403569 << http://btcbase.org/patches/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions
21:42 assbot Logged on 12-02-2016 14:13:21; polarbeard: works like a charm, here is a patch for removing some unused functions if somebody is interested: https://github.com/polarbeard/trb/blob/master/patches/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch https://github.com/polarbeard/trb/blob/master/sigs/polarbeard_rm_unused_functions.vpatch.polarbeard.sig
21:42 assbot polarbeard_rm_unused_functions ... ( http://bit.ly/1U6QcAU )
21:44 phf (my press is still broken though, because i want to have all the patches that were ever produced in there, even the conflicting ones, and simply throwing them into a pile seems to not work. i'll figure it out sometime this week)
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21:44 mod6 Since it's getting brought up... TO ALL CONTRIBUTORS: Thank you for your hard work and submissions. Please hang on to your vpatches, or send them to the BTC-Dev mailing list and we'll get to them post release for review & regrind if accepted.
21:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00056016 = 14.172 BTC [-] {2}
21:46 mircea_popescu pretty cooo mod6
21:46 mircea_popescu but gotta give a 2nd tree some thought for ppl to do experimental work on.
21:47 mod6 oh yes. at first thought, this seems like a much needed thing.
21:48 phf maybe press a new genesis with skull&crossbones in comments of header of every file. patch file contents will be identical, but hashes all different
21:49 mircea_popescu aha.
21:51 mod6 i even had a thought, and im not even sure its feasible technically or just logically, but; we could perhaps create a wrapper for gnu patch where we strip out lines that are surrounded with "%%" or something similar to how it does with "@@", this would ultimately be needed in vtron as well to avoid issues. But the thought is, then we could put comments directly in the vpatch (surrounded by '%%') and
21:51 mod6 then if V sees one of these comments with "%% EXPERIMENTAL %%" then it builds a seperate flow
21:51 mod6 heck, i dunno, i gotta sit and think on it for a while.
21:52 mod6 that maybe a horrible idea. lol.
21:52 mod6 anyway, i'll think about how to make this a thing.
21:52 mircea_popescu why not use the current comment symbol ?
21:52 mircea_popescu b ut no, you do not wish to introduce state.
21:53 mod6 yah, see. not well thought out mod6.
21:53 mircea_popescu different genesis makes different tree, it's all there.
21:53 mod6 ima think about it though, probably try some different things.
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22:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85350 @ 0.00056981 = 48.6333 BTC [+] {4}
22:02 mod6 ;;bc,stats
22:02 gribble Current Blocks: 398779 | Current Difficulty: 1.4411644784734866E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 399167 | Next Difficulty In: 388 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 19 hours, 58 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
22:03 shinohai Node Height: 317516 (79.6%)
22:04 mod6 how's that rollin along for ya?
22:04 shinohai good so far, got stuck a bit earlier, restarted node unclogged.
22:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57165 @ 0.00057025 = 32.5983 BTC [+] {2}
22:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76150 @ 0.00055961 = 42.6143 BTC [-] {4}
22:25 mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000212.html
22:25 assbot [BTC-dev] V [v99995] Beta 4 - Call For Testers! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tnh3YL )
22:26 shinohai ^ will do first thing in the a.m.
22:27 mod6 np, gonna give an additional step here in a sec.
22:30 mod6 so what would be great here, is if you apply the patch, or use the v.pl attached to the email (check the sigs ofc), then start clean, do a fresh `./v.pl i http://thebitcoin.foundation`, and then press out the entire tree, `./v.pl p v v054 asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch`, then `cd v054` and run that find command at the top of this pastehttp://dpaste.com/2SQ1VZ7.txt
22:30 mod6 You should end up with the exact same sha512 hashes as listed in the paste. Let me know, either way.
22:30 mod6 Thanks in advance everyone. Salud!
22:38 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: https://cryptome.org/2016/02/brown-0070.pdf << for possible reprocessing into loltronium ? << I'd need more context on the details motivating the dismissal
22:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1WqytTC )
22:42 phf pocorgtfo http://btcbase.org/patches/experimental-genesis
22:43 phf mod6 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ^
22:43 phf source patched with http://paste.lisp.org/display/307448, run with a folder as argument and it'll prepend a header based on some conditions (rtfs) to all files
22:43 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tnj3QK )
22:44 mircea_popescu nb.
22:44 asciilifeform neato!
22:46 mircea_popescu in celebratory news, bottoms up! http://41.media.tumblr.com/67c3aa7312c56f9a487262b68d9c2086/tumblr_nifno7D83G1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
22:46 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mGvqdL )
22:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141200 @ 0.00055952 = 79.0042 BTC [-] {3}
22:48 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/699706718419345408
22:50 mod6 phf: cool
22:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67200 @ 0.0005591 = 37.5715 BTC [-] {2}
23:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.00057062 = 10.6706 BTC [+] {3}
23:02 BingoBoingo In other news when I was at the store today acquired 1lb carbon zinc battery for great justice
23:04 BingoBoingo Not sure if exactly one pound, but given it's heft that's what it feels like.
23:05 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: where do these go ?
23:05 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: for great justice
23:06 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Nah, 6v "floating lantern" to toss into trunk of car and hopefully forget for 3 years until it needs replacement
23:06 asciilifeform why not cranked lantern?
23:07 mircea_popescu this fucking climate is beyond comprehension. IT GETS LOTS WARMER AFTER THE SUN SETS.
23:07 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Because if I need lantern light I'm probably going to need enough light to illuminate active worksite
23:07 mircea_popescu how the fuck is 1 am 5 degrees above 1pm ?
23:09 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Welcome to my world. Several days last week high of the day was immediately before sunrise.
23:10 mircea_popescu is it some weird like "during day air moves off river, but at night direction change, hot air moves from plain towards river" or somesuch ?
23:10 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Precise monster zinc carbon went into is "everready dolphin" which walmart had on clearance, for same price as blue pogo which has moved still further down.
23:11 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Here it's "so much plains air moves with impunity"
~ 16 minutes ~
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23:30 BingoBoingo ^ Far more interesting that Barret Brown likely going stoolie
23:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122017 @ 0.00055917 = 68.2282 BTC [-] {5}
23:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36633 @ 0.00055439 = 20.309 BTC [-]
23:37 mircea_popescu whossat again ?
23:43 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Barret Brown was "Anonymous" namefag journalist.
23:54 punkman still not sold on the dual genesis, but if the foundation moves forward with this model, I suggest the new genesis is the release/production/stable branch and the existing genesis the experimental one.
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