#trilema | 2015-11-06

instant best-seller

00:09

also just a sad repackaging of extant sad masturbation fodder (that gor bs etc).

00:10

just, all the people who have the skill to pull it off have better shit to do, so the world is stuck enjoying 50 shades of grey and what's that thing games something tlp was ragging on.

00:22

example of that last point http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2014/02/05/miley-abramovic-the-artist-came-in-like-a-wrecking-ball/

00:22

Miley Abramovic: The Artist Came In Like A Wrecking Ball | KQED Pop | KQED Arts ... ( http://bit.ly/1QiiZAF )

00:22

;;ticker --market all --currency gbp

00:23

Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 235.748942, vol: 61110.57993909 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 223.652, vol: 34809.55309 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 233.525578, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 246.05, vol: 87671.40060000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 225.0, vol: 7.9728 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 243.338, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: 238.379928863

00:23

;;ticker --market all --currency eur

00:23

Bitstamp BTCEUR last: 329.324571, vol: 61109.43925441 | BTC-E BTCEUR last: 336.01, vol: 569.5449 | CampBX BTCEUR last: 326.218689, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCEUR last: 343.6625, vol: 87668.58080000 | Kraken BTCEUR last: 327.77948, vol: 19636.8924058 | Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR last: 340.0, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: 336.609302555

00:23

;;ticker --market all

00:23

Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 358.39, vol: 61109.41925441 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 340.0, vol: 34810.39773 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 358.81, vol: 150412.5896413 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 355.01, vol: 29.49536702 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 374.0562, vol: 87659.40510000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 355.90728, vol: 158.98769802 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 369.988, vol: 253.6736099 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

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;;more

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360.778356481

00:24

;;seen williamdunne

00:24

williamdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 27 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <williamdunne> But yah

00:25

anyone with a GBP account that would like to make a payment for me?

00:25

or did we run out of brits

00:28

we might've run out of brits.

00:29

Or brits ran out of us, which ever

00:31

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44250 @ 0.00053392 = 23.626 BTC [-]

00:31

"If your reaction is Marina who? then heres a brief introduction." << how ab out "then this article has no fucking point, nobody cares about obscure if colorful manhattan garbage girls"

00:34

interlude for log readers

00:34

"It began tamely. Someone turned her around. Someone thrust her arms into the air. Someone touched her somewhat intimately. The Neapolitan night began to heat up. In the third hour all her clothes were cut from her with razor blades. In the fourth hour the same blades began to explore her skin. Her throat was slashed so someone could suck her blood. Various minor sexual assaults were carried out on her body."

00:34

"She was so committed to the piece that she would not have resisted rape or murder. Faced with her abdication of will, with its implied collapse of human psychology, a protective group began to define itself in the audience. When a loaded gun was thrust to Marina's head and her own finger was being worked around the trigger, a fight broke out between the audience factions"

00:36

right. because this is america, and art ~= circus.

00:37

bwcause everything ~= circus.

00:41

"murica: Moar circus freaks than evar

00:42

"Dove is telling you you don't need to do anything to be beautiful, but it knows full well women must do something to themselves to feel good about themselves" << aha. and now tell me WHY THAT IS ?

00:43

why is it that boys need to do something TO the world in order to feel at ease, whereas the girls need, NEED! to have something done TO them in order to feel GOOD with ~themselves~ ? aha, mkay, it's not all about sex. there's also...

00:44

"The laws of economics and many studies of diversity tell us that if we tapped the entire pool of human resources and talent, our performance would improve."

00:45

totally. as in, get type A (wanna do things to environment) people mixed with type B (wanna have things done to themselves) people and performance will improve. just as long as you agree to drop the male-centric definition of performance (the ration of damage done to the quake map by bullets expanded) for a more... you know. jackoffian definition of performance.

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01:02

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fraternal-order-police-quentin-tarantino-837394

01:02

Fraternal Order of Police to Quentin Tarantino: We've Got a Surprise Coming For You - Hollywood Reporter ... ( http://bit.ly/1PrjmrP )

01:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7937 @ 0.00053488 = 4.2453 BTC [+] {2}

01:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59013 @ 0.00053422 = 31.5259 BTC [-] {3}

01:14

[Qntra] Fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Experience Week of Extreme Price Volatility - http://qntra.net/2015/11/fiatbitcoin-interfaces-experience-week-of-extreme-price-volatility/

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01:31

[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - http://bitbet.us/bet/1189/bitcoin-above-300-on-turn-of-christmas/#b26

01:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00053392 = 14.6294 BTC [-] {2}

01:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00053898 = 20.8046 BTC [+] {3}

02:03

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57800 @ 0.0005339 = 30.8594 BTC [-] {3}

02:09

"Bitcoin managed to get it up, but lacked the staying power of its youth and is now collapsing."

02:09

"In Chinese, 保留 means "super important register fields that aren't on the datasheet.""

02:13

lol my butt. "usg got a run for its money the likes of which it had hoped to never see. it will not survive another one in all likelyhood, which is just as well, because november promises at least a couple."

02:20

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43900 @ 0.00053538 = 23.5032 BTC [+] {2}

02:22

has anyone ever used --verify-files with gpg successfully?

02:23

ben_vulpes: what you want to batch them up?

02:25

punkman: i know about --batch, but this --verify-files flag in the man pages seems to not work. at all.

02:25

fails silently, returns 0, the whole nine.

02:26

wondering if pebkac or with maintainers.

02:27

i never used it.

02:27

go, `mkdir /tmp/badsigs/; touch /tmp/badsigs/{1,2,3}.sig; gpg --verify-files /tmp/badsigs/*`

02:27

ben_vulpes: "--multifile --verify may not be used with detached signatures. "

02:27

in general, the path of "usable" in gpg is kind-of narrow.

02:28

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ben_vulpes rubs face

02:28

thank you punkman

02:29

--batch --verify it is then, shitgnomes.

02:30

I don't think that would work

02:34

"The Irish hate our order, our civilization, our enterprising industry, our pure religion. This wild, reckless, indolent, uncertain and superstitious race have no sympathy with the English character. Their ideal of human felicity is an alternation of clannish broils and coarse idolatry. Their history describes an unbroken circle of bigotry and blood."

02:34

quoth a jew discussing teh celts.

02:36

right you are, punkman.

02:40

coarse idolatry because catholics?

02:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34700 @ 0.00053793 = 18.6662 BTC [+]

02:44

perhaps.

02:44

but i suspect more because, peasants.

02:49

Potato niggers

02:49

I believe is the technical term

02:49

heh

02:59

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317912 << could also mean less money and freedom to move to the congo, spending 10% on rent instead of 90%?

02:59

Logged on 05-11-2015 23:20:40; ascii_field: to me 'web dev' means 'work 17y.o. does' and is exactly equivalent to 'you are worth your weight in pork'

03:02

and what use is non-webdev job if starving?

03:03

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BingoBoingo just accepts ascii enjoys the ghetto

03:06

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48900 @ 0.00053538 = 26.1801 BTC [-] {2}

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03:31

the prison is in the mind.

03:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21703 @ 0.0005353 = 11.6176 BTC [-] {3}

03:39

lol http://qntra.net/2015/11/fiatbitcoin-interfaces-experience-week-of-extreme-price-volatility/#comment-73687

03:39

Fiat/Bitcoin Interfaces Experience Week of Extreme Price Volatility | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NgEZ9O )

03:48

[Trilema] Filth - http://trilema.com/2015/filth/

03:59

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9562 @ 0.0005314 = 5.0812 BTC [-] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00053233 = 8.5705 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.0005314 = 5.8985 BTC [-]

05:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00053233 = 1.0647 BTC [+]

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05:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.0005314 = 29.1739 BTC [-]

05:48

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34100 @ 0.00053146 = 18.1228 BTC [+]

05:57

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23848 @ 0.00053399 = 12.7346 BTC [+] {3}

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06:14

[BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1219/bitcoin-to-top-800-before-jan-2016/#b16

06:20

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-05/cia-saudis-give-select-syrian-militants-weapons-capable-downing-commercial-airliners

06:20

CIA, Saudis To Give "Select" Syrian Militants Weapons Capable Of Downing Commercial Airliners | Zero Hedge ... ( http://bit.ly/1NwEk8K )

06:21

"In order to make sure no one ends up blowing a 747 out of the sky, Washington will “retrofit” the weapons with “special” software that makes sure they can only be used in certain areas. "

06:23

fluffypony

unhackable of course

06:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00053367 = 12.1677 BTC [-]

06:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27828 @ 0.00053751 = 14.9578 BTC [+]

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06:57

[BitBet Bets Bets] 2.00000000 BTC on 'No' - BTC to reach $1000 or more in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1169/btc-to-reach-1000-or-more-in-2015/#b29

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07:14

+1 to BashCo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3rlkh2/adam_back_says_there_is_vote_manipulation/cwpcopq

07:14

BashCo comments on Adam Back says there is vote manipulation happening to his posts by bought and stolen reddit accounts. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxisP )

07:15

http://www.zdnet.com/article/protonmail-coughs-up-6000-to-stop-ddos-attack-ddos-carries-on-anyway/

07:15

ProtonMail coughs up $6000 to stop DDoS attack, DDoS carries on anyway | ZDNet ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxjNF )

07:15

lolz!

07:15

(in bitcoin)

07:16

That feeb advice to pay youe attackers sure paid off!

07:16

*your

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https://www.gofundme.com/protonmaildefense

07:18

Support the ProtonMail Defense Fund by Andy Yen - GoFundMe ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxE2O )

07:19

gofundme.com/shinohaiattackdefense

07:20

^ maybe I'll make that, good to be prepared for all contigencies

07:30

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318074 <<< Yuo, JC is cool: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/2f/e9/49/2fe949f112d852003a1934cd13d36a08.jpg

07:30

Logged on 06-11-2015 01:06:40; mircea_popescu: in other news, johnny cash is fucking great.

07:30

... ( http://bit.ly/1NTyTin )

07:36

http://cointelegraph.com/news/115571/teenager-jailed-for-selling-4-million-worth-of-drugs-on-the-dark-net <<< dat picture "Now what? we have all your potato, burn yurt, and rape dottir."

07:36

Teenager Jailed for Selling €4 Million Worth of Drugs on the Dark Net ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTzCjF )

07:47

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jurov is blown to realize the full scope of "this" http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317689

07:47

Logged on 05-11-2015 22:00:59; mircea_popescu: Thing 1. We're trying to reduce bitcoind to a form where it's actually worth cutting trees to print it ;

07:48

and all the stuff below

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kakobrekla suspekts there will be more Things before there are less Things

07:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00053751 = 4.9451 BTC [+]

08:01

;;later tell mod6 After nearly 2 weeks downtime I'm back up and attempting sync.

08:01

The operation succeeded.

08:08

cool!

08:09

v054-TEST2?

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yup, first time I got it back online since hdd barf

08:14

awesome, let us know how she goes.

08:14

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317882 << it was "fine" just because bad input that would trip up gets() was thought a mistake of the operator

08:14

Logged on 05-11-2015 23:05:37; mircea_popescu: c worked in the 70s just fine, also.

08:16

which is imo dubious way to "keep the herd out"

08:18

mod6: have you had any sucess with bsd yet ?

08:22

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25850 @ 0.00053878 = 13.9275 BTC [+] {3}

08:31

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punkman orders from charcoal grill place that opened last week, notices "since 1984" on menu

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09:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00053954 = 23.2002 BTC [+]

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09:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40388 @ 0.00053367 = 21.5539 BTC [-]

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10:43

[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.43979419 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - http://bitbet.us/bet/1189/bitcoin-above-300-on-turn-of-christmas/#b27

10:52

[MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 296 @ 0.00351465 = 1.0403 BTC [-] {5}

10:56

;;calc 1/0.00351465

10:56

284.523352254

10:56

davout: x.eur bot pls

11:04

ANNOUNCE to CoinBr users: MPEx started rejecting new orders without clear reason, if you get an error, wait a minute and retry.

11:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00053954 = 6.2587 BTC [+]

11:16

also, this happened since wednesday to several users, but I got no complaint :(

11:19

"business as usual", perhaps...

11:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45550 @ 0.00053979 = 24.5874 BTC [+] {3}

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shinohai is irked that coinbr.net ranks higher ..

11:36

[BitBet Bets Bets] 6.50000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin above $300 on turn of Christmas - http://bitbet.us/bet/1189/bitcoin-above-300-on-turn-of-christmas/#b28

11:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00054211 = 9.9748 BTC [+] {2}

11:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36200 @ 0.00054271 = 19.6461 BTC [+] {2}

11:55

shinohai i have abandoned any hopes coinbr would be mass thing

11:55

so, don't mind that

11:56

I like the site, just have no idea what I'm doing if I opened an account.

11:56

only consumer thing that'd be doable would be trading of CFDs on mpex issues, or other boiler stuff

11:56

and that's completely different than coinbr

12:07

jurov: perhaps some more high-touch service could work

12:08

punkman what's that?

12:10

jurov: in regards to brokerage, I got no idea, but otherwise "denoting or relating to a business characterized by a very close relationship with its customers or clients."

12:11

i could have closer relationship with some of you. but then it would be homo.

12:12

;)

12:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11303 @ 0.00053367 = 6.0321 BTC [-] {2}

12:13

!b 4

12:13

Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1GYVHTM.txt )

12:18

LOL

12:18

I need a crypto FA I guess, like that dish I pay to manage my bills for me.

12:18

unrelatedly, i keep taking these dumps roughly in the shape of horse penis

12:18

maybe my colon's trying to tell me something.

12:19

snake like and soft ?

12:19

sort-of soft.

12:19

more fiber ?

12:20

maybe closer relationships ?

12:20

less alcohol ?

12:20

of the equine kind?

12:20

i don't even drink that much.

12:20

well, not in russian terms at any rate.

12:20

last drink i had, hmm, prolly in romania.

12:20

lol

12:21

culture shock, largest i ever encountered : 17 yo me in london, goes into pub orders a drink. they bring him... im not even sure what it was, a thimbleful.

12:21

i was like.... what the shit, is this like with wine, you brought me a little to sniff it ?!

12:22

in romania opf the 90s, a drink = 100cc. you could get a half if you were sick or something, but you'd have to specify like you specify nonhot at mexican restaurant. five times.

12:22

english idiots, 20cc ? wtf ? not even worth lifting.

12:22

the "standard drink" of 20ml

12:22

pfff.

12:22

that's a standard in lab rat studies maybe.

12:23

then came part 2, when the kids i was staying with were "omfg you went into a pub ordered a drink ?!?!?!?!"

12:23

"yea... ?"

12:23

"we have to wailt till 21!!!"

12:23

"..."

12:24

wasn't UK at 18?

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was it ?

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as I remember it

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aha apparently.

12:25

"an exception being the UK, which has a minimum legal age of five for supervised consumption in private places"

12:25

check out the brits being sensible ?!

12:25

not bad

12:30

ahahaha the idiocy of these people. seriously, the excuse for selling weapons to terrorists is that "a) they're not the terrorists but the terrorist's Italian cousin ; b) we disabled the checkbox anyway" ?

12:30

someone needs to sell the mexican cartles the same things. o wait... they did.

12:33

<shinohai> +1 to BashCo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3rlkh2/adam_back_says_there_is_vote_manipulation/cwpcopq <---> http://trilema.com/2014/spamming-reddit-an-experiment/#selection-3043.0-3043.123

12:33

BashCo comments on Adam Back says there is vote manipulation happening to his posts by bought and stolen reddit accounts. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTxisP )

12:33

Spamming reddit, an "experiment". on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/20Aj9HZ )

12:36

the plan is the plan. the execution is not at the option of the horde. go reddit moar.

12:36

jurov aha. monstrous. but what can you do ? i've been trying to "manage" the issue / pretend like it's not an issue but got efficiently (and righly) uprooted at every step.

12:37

at least we ended up with a proper definition of scope, truthful if scary.

12:37

now all we need are the sort of men who aren't liable to get scared.

12:37

* kakobrekla suspekts there will be more Things before there are less Things <<< i am of the hope that we're done with things and will be a proliferation of subthings. because fuck me if i'm going all the way into microbiology to fix computing.

12:38

lol

12:42

!up ascii_field

12:42

mircea_popescu: it will soon be my 8th year of 'fix computing'

12:42

must say, it is moar phun now, with phriends.

12:42

"el ir derecho acorta las distancias, y tambien la vida."

12:43

yeah alfie, the risk is that you lose pace. as in, guy who's been sitting in a fox hole for all summer, when a scout regiment finally shows up on the hillside goes all rambo on the opposition.

12:43

sit put an' take it steady.

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ascii_field returns to sorting panzerfausts in the führerbunker

12:46

/msg chanserv OP rename #bitcoin-assets #bitcoin-fix-computers

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-and-the-world

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<jurov> which is imo dubious way to "keep the herd out" << the secret we're not ready for is that all ways to keep the herd out are dubious ways to keep the herd out.

12:52

this goes right into the other discussion : by and large, the role of management is to lie to engineering, because if confronted nakedly, the TRUTH of reality is this head-explody vacuousness. so survivable representations have to be created, and they are better if created professionally - because in their absence the brain will create them anyway, and they'll have all the value and efficiency of something a 2 yo repti

12:52

le came up with extemporaneously.

12:52

hence "scientific paradigms", ie, "don't look at magnetism".

12:52

that's the MAIN thing every single course book etc on physics says. and it is INSANE.

12:52

yet here we are.

12:53

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ascii_field sourly mumbles something about unified theories

12:54

the clear sign that it's not time yet is the juvenile idiotic look of the attempts to unified theories.

12:54

iirc majorana's was spiffy

12:54

do you know which is the most advanced one ? ask a 50something stupid woman from the midwest. "oh, it's all energy and people are different". that's the best there is.

12:54

pfff.

12:55

btw latest word is that majorana is prolly in mircea_popescu's graveyard

12:55

o ?

12:56

;;google ettore majorana argentina

12:56

Ettore Majorana: The Mystery Might Be Solved - Science 2.0: <http://www.science20.com/quantum_diaries_survivor/ettore_majorana_mystery_might_be_solved-79823>; The Physicist Who Vanished: The Strange Fate of Ettore Majorana ...: <http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/05/the-physicist-who-vanished-the-strange-fate-of-ettore-majorana/>; Ettore Majorana - Wikipedia, the free (1 more message)

12:57

^ of interest to aficionados only

12:57

i think you still gotta be somewhat rich to make chacarrita

12:57

then in some unmarked field.

12:57

che-style.

12:58

phun-fact: if you want to get cremated in greece, they ship you to bulgaria

12:58

punkman: how come?

12:59

ascii_field: no place that does cremation, despite endless plans.

12:59

needs moar germans.

13:03

might be too warm for germans.

13:03

ironically, the greeks invented cremation didn't they.

13:04

definitely too warm, they turn bright pink the moment they step off the plane

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lol

13:04

"look at all these german cunts" ?

13:05

"The ad's association to therapy here was probably not planned but it was inevitable, just as Mantegna selecting a psychiatrist and not an engineer or a cook or a stripper as the mark in House Of Games was inevitable. It is the only system of rules based on self-deception, it encourages the illusion of "self" separate from behavior. And as long as psychiatry uncritically elevates identity over behavior, it makes it-

13:05

- not the patients, it-- an easy mark for con men with their own agenda: SSI, the justice system, gun control, schools, whatever. "It's called a confidence game. Why, because you give me your confidence? No: because I give you mine." Take a minute, think it through."

13:05

jesus check out tlp getting shit. it doesn't seem to help him, but those were older articles.

13:07

how does the justice system con psychiatry to its own ends ? NOT by asking psychiatrists to buy into court proceedings. by pretending in court proceedings to highly esteem their opinions.

13:07

"you now have a responsibility ot the people who trust you : to this and that they want you to do".

13:08

"how about as a precondition to anything they abandon their self ?" "OMG WHAT ARE YOU A PSYCHOPATH THIS IS DOMESTIC ABUSE BLABLABLA".

13:08

riight.

13:15

jurov : i know. working on it, but it's not a trivial problem sadly.

13:19

ftr, mpex will issue "Insufficient funds for this request." errors for all sorts of problems, including some that have nothing to do with the user.

13:20

i get that this is unhelpful at best, but a) making specific error messages is not trivial, and b) the alternative denomination would be something like "generic error message" which whatever.

13:22

the sad truth is that the requirements of safety and concurrency run into problems of time. there's a reason bitcoin blocks are 10 minutes long, and i fear i'm going to end up having to fundamentally redo the whole shebang.

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jurov expects mircea_popescu will end up with colored coins :D

13:39

lol

13:39

i would about 100x rather use a deedbot-based system. and i don't think something like that is usable.

13:40

!up ascii_field

13:40

colored coins >> http://shapleigh.org/system/news_article/photo1/3767/mlk1.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/20AthQY )

13:41

trades as S.NGR

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(kinda shameful how we omitted the entire deedbot and btcalpha infrastructure from the things, becuase hey, fuck trinque and mike_c we got the stuff made so we no longer need it made so we can forget about it right ?

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*

mircea_popescu pays respect to the people who make it so he doesn't have to remember things.)

13:41

'if it works, it's not AI'

13:45

re the recent alcoa/aluminum discussion, but also a broader industry and futurology discussion : aluminum is now so cheap (ie, china has got SUCH a solid handle on it forever) that home furnishing shops here have started to offer, alongside pots in silverstone and teflon, pure, plain aluminum. marketed as such, too, "puro alumino".

13:45

the catch being of course that the options are now "pay ~1k or ~100 pesos for a pot".

13:46

no need to guess that once this option became available, the other two disbecame available "en interior".

13:48

i have no fucking idea how they do this, either. maybe they discovered cold fusion and are keeping it quiet. maybe they're burning tibetans for heat. fuckall knows, but there they sit.

13:48

hey most abundant metal on planet 3

13:48

all you need is mains current

13:48

no it's not. nickel.

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Al.

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and the mains current is the discussion.

13:49

you mean in crust ?

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crust.

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where we live.

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a ok.

13:49

cheap hydro in cn.

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i wouldn't put it past them.

13:50

anyway even in crust i suspect mg might be higher.

13:51

no, looky, you have it : silicon 28%, aluminum 8.2%, iron 5.6%, calcium 4.2%, sodium 2.5%, magnesium 2.4%, potassium, 2.0%, and titanium 0.61%.

13:53

"Intelligent people, like racists, are fluent in describing themselves in opposition to what they are not, but ask them to define themselves by what they are, tell you what they do believe in, and they're lost. They have opinions on issues, sure, but ask for an overarching ideology and their face botoxes. Overarching ideology? Only people with manifestos have ideologies, not having an ideology is the whole point of

13:53

being independent, the only thing they deal in is "facts" or "reality", and gun to head if they believe in anything it's "science." Not physics or chemistry, but evolution. You know, whatever ideologues hate."

13:55

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/04/best-gaffe-ever-hillary-clinton-says-former-presidents-shouldnt-have-to-disclose-criminal-history << prepare to l0l to death

13:55

Hillary Clinton: Presidents Shouldn't Have To Disclose Their Criminal Histories ... ( http://bit.ly/20AvwE5 )

13:55

'“Earlier today I announced that as president I will take steps to ‘ban the box,’ so former presidents won’t have to declare their criminal history at the very start of the hiring process,” Clinton told the assembled crowd. She did not correct herself.'

13:55

lmao!

13:57

what is "ban the box" supposed to be ?

13:57

mircea_popescu: in usa, it is traditional for folks showing up for a job opening to be asked whether they have been tried/convicted

13:58

this typically takes the form of a paper form with 'boxes' to 'tick'

13:58

heh

13:58

initially they take applicant's word of honour, but sometimes check public record

13:58

do people mostly check yes ?

13:59

no idea

13:59

"you haven't even been to prison ? and you call yourself an american ? get the fuck out of my fucking office, loser."

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58570 @ 0.00053396 = 31.274 BTC [+] {3}

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at one point, it was fashionable to check credit agencies instead

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but then it was banned in many states (including md, where i happen to live)

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because blacks ?

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possibly

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i suppose the alternatively counter-cultural reaction would be to write in "no, and i'm not black, either"

14:01

"i prefer the term jewish-african".

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o wait, the jews don't agree they're in africa, was it ? only egypt is. jewlandia is in... well it's almost practically europe right ?

14:04

lol meanwhile @tlp, "I'm starting to wonder if the reason it is always pretty white girls who get kidnapped is that the media is the one kidnapping them."

14:14

bwahahaha, ok : ""But that book was written in 1908. Based on what I've seen on Downton Abbey, things were a lot different then."

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Well, yes, obviously, there had just been a massive leap forward in technology and industrialization, a booming economy fueling a wealth gap, temporarily course corrected by a financial panic "precipitated" by the failure of two overspeculating brokerage houses. There were also, simultaneously, great advances in progressive causes like worker's rights and food quality, all on the background of decreasing importance of

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religion among educated whites in favor of science. Not physics or chemistry, but evolution. Tabloids were incomprehensibly popular, partisan media the norm. A loosening of conventional morality manifested as bored promiscuity, female bisexuality, and a flood of new porn the likes of which never existed before.

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"That does sound different. And awesome. What did their Millennial kids inherit, what did they experience over their adult lives, say 1929-1945?"

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I totally don't know, Boardwalk Empire only goes up to 1924 and Mad Men starts 1960."

14:16

let's, for the sake of exercise, suppose that in fact this is literally true, and so therefore sometime in the next decade the us signs an alliance treaty with russia only to try and invade the next year, and after they duke it out for a coupla years the chinese intervene and give everyone penis cages, like so : http://41.media.tumblr.com/b36f7278fe8eecbcd9c887e05101d8ed/tumblr_nsjbitlEao1szhm10o1_1280.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/20AzdJL )

14:17

now suppose cca 2026 some twerps come to persuade you to go take minsk. and you quote this line of the log to them, and they go "huh" becaue hey, log is too difficult and what's a gpg ?

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so in 2027 they come for like 4-5 different similar reasons, with the same bs lines. and you quote the same log, and they go the same huh.

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and by 2028 they come twice a day, and you... what ? you do what, link the log, and on and on ?

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eventually they shoot you because you're an asshole.

14:18

everyone [smart, white, rich, whatevs] likes to think of intelligence as a force. perhaps it is.

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meanwhile, the insistent, unyielding, disinterested in ANYTHING, eternally repeating the same inept shit behaviour of stupidity is certainly a force. that force is called will.

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which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up.

↖ ↖

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most people can't do that, obviously, which is why most people are most people.

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which is also why inteligence is not a force. not anymore than make-up is a force.

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the erect cock, as an incarnation of will, is the one and only driver of action. which is why attempts to legislate inaction are stuck pretending "rape" exists. unless everyone's flaccid, the supremacy of will over everything is too hard a sell.

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!up ascii_field

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318490 << iirc it turned out that kurt gödel was pretty good at this

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Logged on 06-11-2015 19:19:07; mircea_popescu: which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up.

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i can explain what scams are to wilful idiots until i fall over, it's not unlike trying to prevent storms by lubricating the water.

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has jack shit to do.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318490 << talking to inanimate objects is a misapplication of intelligence. it isn't magic, just a kind of instrument.

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Logged on 06-11-2015 19:19:07; mircea_popescu: which is why if you're hungry and can't eat, you don't try to EXPLAIN to your aching belly anything. you try and WILL it to shut the fuck up.

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ascii_field there are two kinds of three year olds. all three year olds sooner or later threaten their parents with holding their breath. all parents laugh at this, as it's a physiological impossibility : if you do any sort of a good job you necessarily pass out, and once you pass out autosomatic control restarts breathing. the two kinds of kids are : the ones that are dissuaded by this ; and the ones that are now.

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not*

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aha i recall mircea_popescu's article

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'anal children' or what was it

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right.

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now the one puzzle imho is why this mutation isn't fatal

14:27

what keeps the kid from fighting with a garbage truck

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318481 <<< I thought I remembered somewhere in the logs a conversation you had with someone who asked what a Wagram was.

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Logged on 06-11-2015 19:14:16; mircea_popescu: I totally don't know, Boardwalk Empire only goes up to 1924 and Mad Men starts 1960."

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at about age 5 i wanted to hunt a cow.

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shinohai it's a quote tho

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ah

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mircea_popescu: there is a sov joke about this!

14:28

ascii_field and at about the same age, i wanted to fight a lamb! headbutting ftw

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i think i must have recounted the story.

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two drunken louts went to hunt boar. one wanders over to a neighbouring 'number' (hunt sub-lot) and says 'there are many moar boar here'

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so they move there.

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shoot boar, after boar, drink moar vodka

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eventually pass out

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moar boar lol

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wake up in drunk tank, minus their guns, and policeman tiredly says,

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'why did you go to the pig farm, why'

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lol

14:31

anyway, the chief problem with self esteem, and it is indeed a major problem, is that coping strategies develop and are tested as the name says : through coping. will is a fabulous thing, which serves approximately the same role as beauty in teenaged females : now you don't gotta work at anything, because lalaland. and so you don't. and so you suck at everything ELSE. and you're fucked. the problem with self esteem is

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that if you don't despise yourself and your own achievements, you'll never get anywhere. but not too much! because you also won't get anywhere! etc.

14:31

then people wanna take drugs, as if juddling all this shit in the vain, vague hope that it's evolutionarized to balance isn't hard enough,

14:32

wunderwaffen

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what folks secretly want is to discover the dope that opponent does not yet have.

14:32

how'd that work ?

14:32

"imagine no baldness. there'd be no stopping them, a nation of supermen" ?

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nah it'd be something more like 'no cowardice'

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it wouldn't astonish me to learn that 'will' is chemically goosable

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just like cock erectitude

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yeah, because banal patristics 11 centuries old are too hard to read. "without [the possibility of] sin - no salvation"

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do you take viagra ascii_field ?

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must confess that i do not

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nor have sampled it

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well, why not ?

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are you the sort of republican central time backwards orc that refuses science ?

14:34

sausage works fine by itself ?

14:34

what, as god made it ?

14:34

aha

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but if it did not, i'd consider it ?

14:35

why dress then ? skin not work fine by self ?

14:35

nope

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esp. not with acids.

14:35

there are times when cock is dressed, even

14:35

i think mircea_popescu also believes in this

14:35

i am not arguing from my pov, but from the contrarian pov.

14:35

so : why do you go by car ? legs don't work ?

14:36

all 'dresses' are engineering tradeoffs

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i happen to like some moar, others - less

14:36

matter of taste and ev calc

14:36

for all you know "legs work fine but not fine enough" just like penis works fine but not fine enough.

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yes. ergo dope. i am not a principled opponent of dope

14:37

but you don't take penis dope.

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you do take leg and would at least consider wakefulness dope. but not penis dope.

14:37

is penis more identity than walking or sleeping ?

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i'd consider it if i had reason to think 'this needs to be more like an iron mechanism'

14:38

but you consider this of your own sleep!

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aha.

14:38

what gives ?

14:39

i wouldn't want to fuck with sleep either if i didn't have to stand up at a post at x o'clock

14:39

could it be that your girl is actually a MUCH NICER partner (for sex) than you are for yourself (in your own head, doing things, like sleeping)

14:39

it is constraints from external things that lead people to want to turn their body into a reliable mechanism

14:39

mno. it is INTERNALIZED constraints.

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anything could be. could be that i turn up a crate of penis dope and then end up restructuring whole personal economic life around getting moar.

14:40

could be.

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which is why teaching slavegirls to orgasm on command is important. the internalised sexuality is a good and useful proxy for a great many other things they need.

14:41

as it is, i'm trying to navigate towards fewer 'dopes' (in the very general sense, far outside of 'things you must eat') rather than more.

14:42

makes sense dunnit.

14:43

re: sleep, i have a ~26 hr circadian and this isn't fixable

14:43

(afaik)

14:43

we know how to stretch a man's legs to make him taller than mircea_popescu, but not this

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question is why would we bother.

14:44

which? legs ?

14:45

there is, iirc, a clinic in ru that does it. booked for years in advance.

14:45

u.s. folks travel illegally to get in.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-02-2015#1002348 <<thread

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Logged on 02-02-2015 06:58:18; asciilifeform: but being tall, which someone CAN NOT get, <<<< ahahha. soviet science winz again. had a process for -actually- growing taller.

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im not even sure leg elongation is this.

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thisy enough.

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*

ascii_field has not tried, cannot recommend or disrecommend

14:48

maybe for women.

14:48

seems the exact definition of slavery, going even to the lengths of damaging oneself if it is ordered either by master or superego

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trinque: anyone who's ever worked for a living has already done this.

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sure, I've had to get up at 6am to commute before

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trinque education is self-damage.

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i.e. killed himself a little bit to profit some schmuck

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mircea_popescu: certainly is; I'm not opposed to the notion, but stating it

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you have to understand ontogenesis is a two step process. first, a blob develops.then, controlled apoptosis, a process so fundamental cells have signalling baked in for it (but not for hunger, not for pain etc) makes the spaces between what will be your fingers.

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design space shrinkage

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(in re man-made things)

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and filogenesis replicates ontogenesis, or vice-versa. first, the woman spits out a blob, then of the blob collection the men kill some,

14:51

all life works in a certain way for the reason that it's cheapest

14:52

even man-made things work this way

14:52

and the thread re "what is the meaning of fractal" controls here,

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(i.e. most notions die in your head, others - on the desk, the rest - in factory, etc)

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tho i doubt many in the audience have the actual, proper mathematical understanding to grasp the MEANING of formalisms.

14:52

it is not so hard

14:53

ascii_field you ever seen maid in sweden ?

14:53

nein

14:53

you should. very nice softcore/sexploitation movie, epic natural d's. but the story is more important.

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*

ascii_field puts on list

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girl goes to visit her slut sister, is fucked, gets some trappings of womanhood (dress)

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comes back to her still girly friend, who asks her "omygerd you mean you wore this ? and men saw you ? BUT HOW ???"

14:54

!up ascii_field

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and newly woman responds smiling that there's nothing to it.

14:54

"it's not that hard"

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logical.

14:55

which makes it a good movie ; which hollywood can't apparently do.

14:55

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00053174 = 10.2094 BTC [-] {2}

14:56

if we ever get genuine psychology, it will be interesting to learn whether there was any substance to the old experiments concerning will.

14:56

where it had the appearance of behaving like a muscle

14:56

complete with fatigue and training

14:56

anyway, merely the contemplation of the plain if never discussed (shouldn't this be discussed in school ? you think ?) that cells do not actually have signalling for hunger built in, so the entire insulin system is left guesing, with all the attendant problems of insulin resistence etc. they didn't think this was important enough. apoptosis, yes. this, no. not fundamental enough, didn't make the cut.

14:57

should be informative for a lifetime.

14:57

"zero tolerance policy" ? really ?

14:57

it certainly can be trained.

14:57

and the channel yet again tricks me into revealing even more of the mysterious evil from the tower depths. oy vey.

14:57

and probably 'steroided.'

14:58

i do not believe so.

14:58

i have no reason to suppose either yes or no

14:58

but it would not surprise me if the system responsible is simple enough for some realistic dope.

14:58

it is prolly something 'reptilian'

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(in the sense of 'hind' brains)

14:59

and yes, there will be a cost

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just like taking phenylcyclidine costs.

14:59

(go throw a motorbike! but tear your muscles to shreds)

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mno. it is a complex behaviour.

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so is wakefulness

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question is whether it has a 'valve'.

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*

mircea_popescu suspects it is a reimplementation of ancient stuff on new hardware.

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but then again i lack the tools to find out.

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and yes, it is possible that a man given 'will dope' will just immediately eat his pistol.

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because why not

15:01

in unrelated news, "Worse, they proudly announce their lack of ideology by branding themselves as Independents-- capital I, a thing, a demo. He willingly lessens his independence to become part of a group.

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The "independent" demo actually has all the textbook characteristics of a group most susceptible to propaganda, more correctly "pre-propaganda", and by textbook I mean literally Propaganda.

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They consider themselves leaderless. They can have representatives, they can have "evangelists" but they have to believe that their conclusions are all their own, through individual reflection and objective consideration. Interestingly, and on purpose, they believe their brains can handle such an analysis, any analysis. This isn't arrogance. They are told, by universities and the media, that their mind is prepared t

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o do this heavy lifting as long as they are given just the right facts, filtered from the "noise." "Where can we get the right facts, in a world of liars?" Good question, maybe the news?"

15:01

https://i.imgur.com/SBP9Ob4.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/1MNzy7R )

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mircea_popescu: are you an aficionado (or the reverse) of m. minsky's 'society of mind' thing ?

15:02

re tlp's entire "universities don't produce producers, they produce consumers". there's some very specific requirements for "consumership" and they're not the obvious "oh bad people" bla bla.

15:02

this notion that one's head is enough, is fundamental to it.

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(where brain has subsystems)

15:02

my own brain functions a lot like a forum anyway.

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aha so then yes

15:03

somebody (forget who) called it 'nanoeconomics'

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*

trinque meditated for hours once and when he stopped chattering to himself about a narrative, there was left something that made me think for a long time about will, and what this observer was that was left sitting there

15:03

it would necessarily be a very difficult thing to say anything about

15:03

anyway there is a thing in there that says 'i dun wanna, i'll stay in bed'

15:03

i suspect it's the normal/natural state. people with overrepressive habits (ie, bad childhood) end up blind to their own mind, but...

15:03

mhm.. at the age children try to self-suffocate and mircea went to engage a lamb... i learned to plant false memories in myself. It was very scary.

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if you had a dope that shuts it up and staples its mouth,

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you got yourself a 'will dope'.

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simple example : if i get a stomach upset, i can identify the culprit through the simple process of ... "shut the fuck up a mintuer and listen".

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obviously you know what it was.

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but the "Shut up a second" and especially "listen" is not ... convenient for many folks.

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^

15:04

jurov like how ?

15:05

in several cases i found myself arguing with everyone else about things that did/did not happen

15:05

how do you ascertain the truth of this ?

15:06

later i learned to keep a reminder "this may not necessarily be true"

15:06

jurov dja know joke with brothel parrot ?

15:07

don't remember

15:08

hm, can' find it in logs, either.

15:08

well, let me recount the hungarian parrot joke. so : a middle aged housefrau has always wanted, ever since little girl, aparrot. so she saves and saves,

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and one day sees in window of pet shop a beautiful white specimen, and the price. which, shockingly, is not only much less than what a parrot costs, but also within her savings!

15:09

so she goes in, and asks what's wrong the parrot, explains to the shopkeep that she's been saving and so and so.

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"nothing really, just this : it's the parrot of a deceased brothel madam. spent all his prior life in brothel, has very saucy conversation"

15:10

"that's all ?!"

15:10

"yes. and we sell it at a discount wirth this caveat, we won't take it back. it's already been returned by a dozen people. perfectly healthy parrot, fine specimen, but -"

15:10

so the woman buys it, and takes it to her house.

15:10

once she lifts the cover off the cage, the parrot takes one look around, one look at her, after which

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"new house! new madam!"

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the woman's daughters start showing up from school, and the parrot is delighted

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"new! house! new madam! new harlots!"

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they laugh their ass off at the new toy, and towards tghe evening the husband shows up too

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"new house! new madam! new harlots! same old janos!"

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l0l

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now the question is... was it true ?

15:12

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318639 << finally remembered what this is called. gleichschaltung !

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Logged on 06-11-2015 20:01:08; mircea_popescu: They consider themselves leaderless. They can have representatives, they can have "evangelists" but they have to believe that their conclusions are all their own, through individual reflection and objective consideration. Interestingly, and on purpose, they believe their brains can handle such an analysis, any analysis. This isn't arrogance. They are told, by universities and the media, that their

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so it is.

15:12

apparently hitler lost the war. har har.

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goebbels won

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as per naggum

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there are biologists somewhere, however laughable, who are not students of darwin. but there are no pr or ad men alive today who are not students of the good doctor g.

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i'm doing okay.

15:14

unlike darwinism, gobblism is rank nonsense.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ >> http://deedbot.org/faq.html

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#bitcoin-assets log ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mu15Zn )

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... ( http://bit.ly/1NQugZm )

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being nonsense hasn't stopped it from much, has it

15:15

all sorts of caged penii a la blair wet their pants^H^H^H^ girly panties because o noes, nude display of will.

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adlai oopsed, wanted to link http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318663

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Logged on 06-11-2015 20:05:45; mircea_popescu: how do you ascertain the truth of this ?

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intelligent people can be wilful too you know.

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not blair, sure. but ACTUALLY intelligent people.

15:16

will worked great for ghadaffi

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(until not)

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adlai: there's a paragraph there on how, but I can provide some code at a later date

15:16

also need the knife

15:16

I am quite backed up on things deedbot- needs, but am aware of most of them

15:16

some dark and dystopian future, mpex trade submission will require deedbot-style spending, for anti-ddos

15:16

i'm confused. what are you trying to say adlai ?

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adlai: btc telegraph?

15:17

ascii_field understood :)

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trinque: not criticising deedbot-, saying that it's the answer to mircea_popescu's question

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oh I got ya

15:17

adlai: not needed if you can verify sigs at line bandwidth at a multitude of relays.

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adlai: see 'gossip' threads.

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my question was directed at jurov re real/unreal childhood memories.

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which was the point of the entire joke.

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what's the parrot remember ?

15:18

there was ample evidence i am wrong

15:18

does mircea_popescu recall the 'repressed memory' trials in usa ?

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yes.

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it was a grotesque crime for which - afaik - no one was made to answer.

15:19

ascii_field: the telegraph decentralizes the market for rate limiting, rather than requiring baroque schemes of varying arbitrarity

15:19

jurov yes, but the problem with the evidentiary based standard is that, well, the matrix. this is one of the biggest problems for young children, incidentally. what the fuck is going on!

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ascii_field imo they answered alright. nature works in the following way : the punishment is the deed. those people who bought into it got their life ruined.

15:20

mircea_popescu: i am speaking of those who did not buy

15:20

mircea_popescu: it occurs to me that thought itself is much like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318591

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Logged on 06-11-2015 19:50:44; mircea_popescu: you have to understand ontogenesis is a two step process. first, a blob develops.then, controlled apoptosis, a process so fundamental cells have signalling baked in for it (but not for hunger, not for pain etc) makes the spaces between what will be your fingers.

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the prisoners

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.0005405 = 24.3225 BTC [+] {4}

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ascii_field were they living in the us ?

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aha broomstick

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got it

15:21

obviously. they bought.

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that thoughts arise, then are selected, and so on

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*

ascii_field adjusts anal road cone

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prolly trinque

15:21

it's really very much an open topic, which is why the "evidence based" court's bitch goes all in for "mri scans!"

15:34

"This is the whole gimmick of media, not polar but triangular, right, left, middle, mobilizing an army of assonauts to feel strongly enough about something that they don't do anything."

15:34

bwahaha

15:40

!up ascii_field

15:40

arse longa.

15:41

no but looky, there's fifty people eating in a free fast food joint, except the rule is that when the music stops the cook comes out and picks a patron to suck his cock.

15:41

"oh i've been raped". no, you haven't, you were whoring out. "but nobody asked me" yeah, they did. "i'm just here for the free food" well... enjoy the extra protein. actually natural.

15:42

arse longa cocka brevis

15:42

jurov: your observation about yourself is not unlike experiences one might have on acid, in the ballpark of "this entire system of ideas that forms the world as I know it is built of assertions accepted within this universe simulation in the mind" which might be an excellent argument for the general population not having access to the stuff

15:42

"I am the 3rd coming of Jesus H Christ" or whatever, even worse

15:42

not having access to the stuff of being ficve years old ?

15:42

or moreover for adults seeking to relive 5yo-dom being a tad regressive ?

15:43

hey wasn't it mircea_popescu writing prescriptions for ego amputation ?

15:43

link ?

15:43

I would accept that in the vast majority of uses it's regressive

15:44

kinda what I'm saying

15:44

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-11-2015#1316487

15:44

Logged on 05-11-2015 00:34:39; mircea_popescu: better model; always asks current ego to die because current ego is a piece of shit.

15:44

aha ?

15:45

possibly the folks who want to 'regress to 5yo' are going for something like this ?

15:45

'i figured out that being me sux, i'd like to be somebody else'

15:45

or if you ask tlp, they're doing it TO AVOID something like this.

15:46

similarly, if you ask america to vote, ( ) balance the budget ; ( ) replay the 90s, guess ?

15:46

I have seen both, certainly. Chicks that take all kinds of substances such that they never have to look at their model of the world with clear eyes

15:46

clear eyes ?!!

15:46

!s room will be empty

15:46

2 results for 'room will be empty' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=room+will+be+empty

15:47

ascii_field: you know very well I'm merely saying "not drunk/high"

15:47

everybody who knowingly takes anything is 'avoiding looking at the world with not-having-taken-it eyes'

15:48

tautologically

15:48

the word merely would be useful there

15:49

one would not refused to use a microsope because it is not merely his own eyes

15:49

*refuse

15:49

ask bellarmino

15:51

fine, one would not refuse to use a condom because it's not their own cock!

15:52

lol

15:52

isn't this precisely why folks refuse ?

15:53

with a great deal of discipline I'm certain one can observe himself in the same manner with no such substance.

15:54

and in fact that associating the state of mind with the dope may be *truly* regressive

15:54

with 'a great deal of discipline' one could become napoleon.

15:54

ever the "nuh uh"

15:54

the purpose of dope in this example is as a force multiplier.

15:54

MOAR return for GIVEN amount of discipline.

15:55

like steroiding.

15:55

and i realize that most idiots want to get a maxint from a zero

15:55

perhaps; I would not know. as with modafinil, would mircea_popescu say "yes, this is called paying attention, you idiots"

15:55

(return / effort)

15:55

:D

15:56

i would like to see how much attention mircea_popescu would pay if he NEVER got a full night of sleep

15:57

(not really, because i would not wish this on a friend. but you get the idea)

15:57

alternatively, let's teach legless folk to will themselves new legs

15:57

or hell, moar legz

15:58

i could use 4-6

15:58

considering the multiple placebo effect threads, I would not be shocked to find believing "I am about to enter a hyper-aware state" is all there is to it

15:58

<ascii_field> MOAR return for GIVEN amount of discipline. << this is fundamentally how it doesn't work.

15:58

and no, this is not how steroids work, either. this is how you/people WANT them to work.

15:58

yes

15:58

it is.

15:58

"more useless appearance of the desired thing for less work".

15:59

that useless is there necessarily.

15:59

as i said, most of the takers want 'world for nothing'

15:59

no.

15:59

recall the kalash thread ?

15:59

'shit hanging off the side'

16:00

the problem isn't that they want something. they do not. they pointedly not only wish not to have it, THEY WISH IT TO NOT EXIST. because it scares them like penis @ little girl.

16:00

'stop hanging shit, visit a firing range...'

16:00

what they want is to be recognised BY OTHERS as, and this is important :

16:00

not as "in possession of it", but "immune from it"

16:00

the secret hope of boi with stupid shit stuck on all sides of rifle IS NOT that he can now go shoot people.

16:00

but that HE IS IMMUNE TO PEOPLE COMING TO SHOOT HIM

16:01

which is why "if you fuck it it only gets heavy and you still can't hit largest side of barn" does not deter him. nor even occur,.

16:01

he wants to take the "spear that will pierce any shield" and fashion it into a shield that will stop any spear.

16:01

this is entirely true and a cursory familiarity with american sport shooting folks will confirm

16:02

which is why "gun control" is even a thing : gun owners are its biggest advocates.

16:02

but might be a usa-thing?

16:02

it's just a "stupid people with resources" thing

16:02

not more usa than rome or egypt

16:03

and the entire "go shooting" thing they do...

16:03

i take it as a personal point of pride that i've yet to discharge a weapon and NOT HIT SOMETHING.

16:03

what they do is go empty magazine after magazine in the worship of "look see, even THIS great gun can't hit anyone".

16:03

"i must be immune"

16:04

"my immunity from gunfire is 7k shots a week, how high is YOUR level of gunfire immunity ? over 9000 ?"

16:04

'you don't hit much but twigs and brush, when you hosedown...'

16:04

(song)

16:05

btw the 'poor dancer is hindered by his own arse' dynamic is present in all walks of u.s. like, from shooting to woodworking

16:05

'even this magical drill!111...!!'

16:05

obviously.

16:05

it is after all a totalitarian culture.

16:06

now, the infestation of genuinely subpar tools feeds into it.

16:07

inasmuch as it's driven by it

16:07

aha why give cargocultist a real airplane?!!1

16:07

what kind of lunatic would

16:07

"productivity enhancing software", the surefire halmark of people who aren't productive and don't wish to be.

16:07

and wish you not to be, either.

16:07

stop throwing the motherfucking curve. have some productivity enhancement.

16:08

*

ascii_field for some reason always recalls 'boss screens'

16:08

do gamez still have'em ?

16:08

which takes us round circle to viagra : yeah, i don't take it either. because i happen to be satisfied with the sex. because the women i fuck rock. because etc.

16:08

virtuous circle.

16:08

aha

16:08

ascii_field eulora doesn't.

16:08

mega-secret of viagra is who eats it and why

16:08

and the fiction about 'dysfunction' is quite likely the same order of fiction as with psych meds

16:09

when its time to fuck hippo - viagra.

16:09

(or monastery.)

16:10

all extant dopes are, afaik, used for some variant of hippo-fucking.

16:10

(things that no one would do if he had half an alternative other than the broomstick)

16:11

!up ascii_field

16:14

ascii_field: or perhaps when it's time to quiet the neuroses and ponder the structure of DNA, LSD

16:14

aha

16:15

or if you need to learn what colour 33 is

16:15

or whether nouns smell of petrol

16:16

*

kakobrekla had no such experience with lsd

16:16

*

ascii_field not expert on subj

16:16

yeah, the world was exactly as it is

16:16

it was the degree of attention being paid to it

16:17

it would seem that most lives *vastly* underutilize the capabilities of the brain, worse even than the mythical 10% figure

16:21

or of the musculature. hence pcp.

16:23

of the greatest interest here is this tlp discussion : http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/03/when_is_it_okay_to_rape_a_woma.html

16:23

The Last Psychiatrist: When Is It Okay To Rape A Woman? ... ( http://bit.ly/209bKiS )

16:23

particularly the point where he goes

16:23

Because picturing yourself exerting power is fantasy; imagining yourself as victim is easy. Which is why you brought this all up. You spend a lot of your waking life creating elaborate fantasies of power that contain their own self-justifying logic, and those fantasies are so numerous that added together they actually take up a real portion of your day. A portion you're not spending on something else. If I saw a Ta

16:23

rdis, then I would know how to pilot it. If such a drug existed, then my sexual problems would all disappear.

16:23

What you don't see is that this logic isn't even self-justifying, it is self-destructing. Not "since I have sexual problems, I wish I had the drug"; but, "since I wish I had the drug, I have sexual problems." Since I wish I had the drug, two hours have already gone by. I'm staying in tonight.

16:25

i enjoyed the subjective time dilation experience

16:26

^ this I think is just focus

16:26

though I would've otherwise said the same

16:26

you need a Tardis

16:26

lol

16:27

from the department-of-mailing-lists-I-didn't-read-but-saved-it-anyway-because-maybe-sometime: http://dpaste.com/16WQEP7 Organizing the World's Delusions

16:27

dpaste: 16WQEP7 ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUFyZP )

16:28

apocryphally, p erdos was once persuaded by a close phriend to quit dope for a month

16:29

at the end, he said

16:29

'thank you - you have showed me that i am not an addict.'

16:29

"It is a kind of extreme method acting; call it ironically absurd behavior." << i knew "method acting" was fucking stupid the moment i heard of it

16:29

'but with [the dope] a page boils with theorems. without - just a piece of paper. mathematics lost a month because of you.'

16:30

*

trinque sees the "therefore not today" very clearly in all of this

16:30

^ st augustine

16:30

better living through chemistry (tm)

16:31

hey, carrying a kalash in kandahar is also 'through chemistry'

16:31

('you may not be interested in' chemistry but 'it is interested in you')

16:32

mircea_popescu: 'method acting' does raise the question : as opposed to what ?

16:33

wtf are you doing if not living and breathing your character ?

16:33

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00054051 = 16.8639 BTC [+] {4}

16:33

not everyone can have character

16:34

not everyone can have cake

16:34

'cake sold out, have some death'

16:35

though i grant that some actors only have one character, but we shouldn't even know the names of such fungible plebes

16:35

'death tomorrow'

16:38

ascii_field: ah ah you said death first!

16:40

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9603 @ 0.00053777 = 5.1642 BTC [-]

16:40

I think lately he has abandoned the drag to act.

16:41

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/31/article-2480306-191BC6FE00000578-587_306x500.jpg << hell of a look

16:41

... ( http://bit.ly/1NUH7H0 )

16:52

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2015#1317770 << now that i see this has been awarded a priority at the level of 'Thing,' i'm giving more thought to what this might look like in praxis.

16:52

Logged on 05-11-2015 22:31:57; BingoBoingo: So pete still working on a PR setup? How does their compensation work? One share per tard tear?

16:53

it's one thing for me to represent tmsr~ to fishwraps as a voluntary service, correcting issues in 'news pieces' when and where i see them and acting as a point of contact for future inquiries

16:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.00053753 = 5.8322 BTC [-] {4}

16:55

but it's another to represent the businesses that converge in this space, be it mpex, mg, nsa, xotika, bitbet, or what have you. this representation wouldn't be voluntary, which means that it'd need to have a measurable output in order to be billable

16:55

*

shinohai would consider marriage again if his bethrothed agreed to wed here: http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/11/07/world/middleeast/07Plane-web/07Plane-web-master675.jpg

16:55

... ( http://bit.ly/1NUIF3N )

16:56

!up ascii_field

16:56

how newspaper mentions, hits, views, etc. would be measured and compensated remains an open question. and one of considerable interest to me personally. so i'm chewing on it.

16:56

shinohai: what's this

16:57

of course, suggestions vis-a-vis tmsr~/wot-business pr needs and expectations are more than welcome

16:57

this is far from a solved consideration

16:57

<pete_dushenski> though i grant that some actors only have one character, but we shouldn't even know the names of such fungible plebes << like who, bogart ?

16:58

shinohai: you still wedded, or divorced ?

17:00

*

pete_dushenski has only seen casablanca, can't speak to bogart's other roles.

17:01

ascii_field: funeral for one of the Russian air disaster victims.

17:02

pete_dushenski: unwed

17:02

shinohai: yes but am i missing something

17:02

wasn't it 'conscious uncoupling' or something equally vomit-worthy ?

17:02

I just like the cemetary, awesum place to get married, quite beautiful in my eye.

17:03

!s http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11970391/Internet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html

17:03

Internet firms to be banned from offering unbreakable encryption under new laws - Telegraph ... ( http://bit.ly/1lb2TwM )

17:03

0 results for 'http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11970391/Internet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuknews%2Fterrorism-in-the-uk%2F11970391%2FInternet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html

17:03

meaning no disrespect to shinohai, the thread of "therefore not today" just keeps going. fascinating.

17:03

shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-11-2015#1315932

17:03

Logged on 04-11-2015 17:49:44; assbot: Theresa May unveils UK surveillance measures in wake of Snowden claims | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1PmLrQX )

17:04

trinque: all of life is an exercise in 'not today'

17:04

indeed.

17:04

except possibly for the day.

17:05

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39169 @ 0.00054044 = 21.1685 BTC [+] {2}

17:06

o hey check it out, ghetto island pretending like it has legislative pwoer and shit ?

17:08

'Ministers have no plans to ban sex because it has an important role in the protection of legitimate economic activity such as creating bank users and lottery players. But there is concern over some aspects of so-called end-to-end fuck where only the thruster and recipient of thrust can feel it.'

17:09

(possibly edited for clarity)

17:09

Excellent paraphrasing.

17:10

whole community gotta participate in the fucking!

17:10

esp the chief

17:10

and his shriveled broad

17:11

aha

17:11

only a t3rr0r1st!!111 would reject the interpository tentacle.

17:11

"people transacting without involvement from the ministers would be tantamount to the uk government being irrelevant!!!"

17:17

[BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - EUR/USD Parity in 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1111/eur-usd-parity-in-2015/#b39

17:22

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20151102007003/en/Activision-Blizzard-Acquire-King-Digital-Entertainment-5.9 << mircea_popescu's slavegirls really pumped up the value of this game eh

17:22

Activision Blizzard to Acquire King Digital Entertainment for $5.9 Billion | Business Wire ... ( http://bit.ly/1NULamJ )

17:23

whossat ?

17:23

o candy crush makers aha

17:27

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00053655 = 6.1167 BTC [-]

17:27

!up ascii_field

17:27

http://41.media.tumblr.com/fcfb1d8283bdbd71d50896fb45a81f9f/tumblr_ngnq0hPBx31qfz2j8o1_500.jpg << black is the culture of proliferate!

17:27

... ( http://bit.ly/1NULKkk )

17:28

https://cryptome.org/2015/11/gchq-scarborough-vehicle.htm << the new111! cryptome

17:28

GCHQ Scarborough Vehicle ... ( http://bit.ly/1NULMJ4 )

17:29

snore.

17:31

Wonder if Qween Purp is one of those blacks like the college professor that believes white people should deposit all their money into black people's bank accounts.

17:32

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bhagwan-chowdry/i-shall-happily-accept-th_b_8462028.html "Satoshi Nakamoto already is in possession of several hundred million U.S. dollars worth of bitcoins so the additional prize money may not mean much to him. Only if he wants, the committee could also transfer the prize money to my bitcoin address, 165sAHBpLHujHbHx2zSjC898oXEz25Awtj. Mr Nakamoto and I will settle

↖ ↖

17:32

I (Shall Happily) Accept the 2016 Nobel Prize in Economics on Behalf of Satoshi Nakamoto | Bhagwan Chowdhry ... ( http://bit.ly/1NUM8iM )

17:32

later."

17:32

what money ?

17:32

hue

17:32

adlai what the fuck is this retarded bullshit ?

17:33

gavin?

17:33

they ran out of costumes that fit gavin, moved on to whatever sand niggers ?

17:33

tl;dr: Q: "who do you nominate for our prize?" A: "my cleverness"

17:33

'Follow Bhagwan Chowdhry on Twitter'

17:33

great phonwalla name

17:33

i'll pass.

17:45

christina hop in the #freenode channel and ask one of the admins for a cloak sometime. it'll prevent your ip address from showing.

17:51

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2lcyj7KOSFo/T4MHhnzLPlI/AAAAAAAAABM/jqkKlrecVQo/s1600/agua+viva+giigante.jpg

17:51

... ( http://bit.ly/1NUNYjV )

17:52

davout

jurov: bot will be back on monday, answered earlier turned out I wasn't voiced

17:53

davout: ty

17:55

*

BingoBoingo kinda wishes the James Bond flick "A View to a Kill" was a documentary

17:56

from the department of titles: "Ben Carson Defends Himself Against Allegations That He Never Attempted to Murder a Child"

17:57

davout

mircea_popescu: irloled at parrot joke

18:00

:p

18:03

!up ascii_field

18:11

in other news, http://38.media.tumblr.com/2da60298adcd8ae82533224d5f426e0e/tumblr_n7sz1yzENX1tce9keo1_400.gif

18:11

... ( http://bit.ly/1NUPzGn )

18:13

<+shinohai> mod6: have you had any sucess with bsd yet ? << yeah, OpenBSD, achieved a full sync a few months back. had to patch it by hand.

18:15

i wanna say it was phf's patches from back in July.

18:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103100 @ 0.00053654 = 55.3173 BTC [-] {2}

18:19

Thx mod6 ... i dun goofed with my pogoplug, reinstalling arch on it nau xD

18:27

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/shoddy-programming-causes-new-ransomware-to-destroy-your-data << lulzz

18:27

Page not found ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbbeAB )

18:28

ok, so i've made pilaf, and included a random mushroom found in china town. it's roughly speaking like a loofah.

18:29

pale white, no apparent stalk, if dried readily crumbles / grates

18:29

very pleasant flavour, anyone know it ?

18:29

morels?

18:30

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14986 @ 0.00053654 = 8.0406 BTC [-] {2}

18:30

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/White_Morel_IMG_0399.JPG

18:30

... ( http://bit.ly/1lbbuzB )

18:30

in other lulz, https://i.imgur.com/BUXWGWg.png

18:30

... ( http://bit.ly/1lbbuQ5 )

18:31

http://www.medianama.com/2015/11/223-tinyowl-hostage-crisis/ << we're not gonna take it !

18:31

TinyOwl’s hostage crisis – Part I - MediaNama ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbbAXV )

18:31

Someone should perhaps talk with him about the concept of spelling.

18:31

punkman naw, the thing is smooth

18:37

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21910 @ 0.00053751 = 11.7768 BTC [+] {3}

18:40

https://regmedia.co.uk/2015/11/06/eric_raymond.jpg?x=648&y=348&crop=1 << esr in his prime, with unknown chica, circa '06

18:40

... ( http://bit.ly/1lbcwvm )

18:40

or perhaps esr with unknown dood

18:40

da fuq

18:41

!up ascii_field

18:41

shinohai: :D

18:42

I must banish that from my memory with a pricey escort. I may send you the bill pete_dushenski.

18:42

^^

18:43

sure, add it to the pile ;)

18:44

*

trinque groaned aloud

18:45

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/05/mac_os_x_malware_explodes/ << or, why the fuck are you running anything after 10.6

18:45

MacBooks are so hot right now. And so is Mac OS X malware • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbcTpL )

18:45

dear god wtf is that.

18:46

I dunno but it just cost pete_dushenski a bitcoin.

18:46

#worthit

18:47

I was unaware they had that sort of outfit in "Oh my God it's coming toward us!" sizes.

18:47

"This year, there have been 948 OS X malware samples, compared with 180 in the years 2011-14 inclusive." << nice work, cook. way to limp-wrist it.

18:48

*

pete_dushenski eagerly awaits BingoBoingo's reaction to photo

18:48

dat sideboob

18:49

what the fuck is count to do with it

18:49

"apple store has 68765985897 games this year, up 0987985698 from 54897658976598 last year"

18:49

"except they're all the same three games reskinned"

18:50

aha, quality not quantity

18:51

speaking of quality, http://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2015/11/04/sha-1-deprecation-update/

18:51

SHA-1 Deprecation Update | Microsoft Edge Dev Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbdsQy )

18:51

http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/argentinie-jaagt-op-mexicaanse-drugsbaas-el-chapo~a4180228/ <<< kewl maybe mp can have drinks with him.

18:51

Argentinië jaagt op Mexicaanse drugsbaas El Chapo | Buitenland | de Volkskrant ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbdqbu )

18:51

"winbloze CONSIDERS deprecating sha1". so it's on the table. just so you know.

18:53

from el reg http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1096&cpage=1#comment-237490

18:53

Dispatches from the Iranian cyberfront ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbdAj6 )

18:53

* pete_dushenski eagerly awaits BingoBoingo's reaction to photo << Pretty sure ESR was always a pigfucker

18:55

at least he's staying within the species

18:56

so wait, now that they lost "cryptoexpert" bruce whatshisname, and the entire zimmerman angle didn't work, the plan is to bring the deceased husk of esr back to complement the recently stolen cryptome into some sort of bitcoin-foundation-3.0-except-with-more-gunk ?

18:57

why not just program re-runs of obama's sex tape if this is the level of effort.

18:57

"no, i'm sure it's just a crazed ruiu acting alone". obviously.

19:00

ahahahahaha

19:04

pete_dushenski: I'm not so sure

19:04

pete_dushenski: You do remember how Animal Farm ends?

19:07

BingoBoingo: 2 legs good, 4 legs better ? or what was it...

19:08

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30411 @ 0.00053478 = 16.2632 BTC [-] {2}

19:15

"Volkswagen of America, in a bid to regain the trust of current diesel owners, will announce a prepaid card campaign on November 9, TTAC has learned. The program, detailed to dealers Thursday in preparation of its public announcement, is aimed at current owners of affected TDI models regardless of whether they bought their car new or used. Two prepaid cards will be offered to those TDI owners. The first one will be f

19:15

500 and has no restrictions on where it can be used. The second, which may be valued between $500 and $750, will be limited to use at Volkswagen dealerships." << in which vw doesn't even try to 'fix' the problem that isn't and instead distributes cash to owners whose vehicles WILL BE WORTH MORE than the owners of post-scandal neutertronics

19:15

weird.

19:15

but still a big middle finger to regulators

19:16

so no, vw won't be 'fixing' any old vehicles. you can take your carbon, nox, etc and huff it.

19:17

this is obviousy to cover the cost of neutreting

19:17

while trying to take advantage of the consumer's disinclination to use it

19:18

but yeah, i imagine the regulotards are prolly livid.

19:18

"what, drive a wedge between the people and the governmentoregulating fruiting body ? WE OWN THE PEOPLE1!11!"

19:19

these prepaid cards will be used for organic groceries at whole foods

19:19

bedside's the point.

19:19

if my conception of the average american tdi owner is accurate

19:19

*late-model tdi owner

19:20

so much for pulling the plug on the us market altogether as per http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/01/in-which-volkswagen-takes-aim-at-the-insanity-of-statal-overbearing/

19:20

In which Volkswagen takes aim at the insanity of statal overbearing. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1PcJNBH )

19:20

guess there was really no need

19:20

why leave when you own the house ?

19:20

the girl can leave. and take the kids too.

19:22

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318501 << /me looks forward to taunting pantagruel into going all the way.

19:22

Logged on 06-11-2015 19:26:00; mircea_popescu: ascii_field there are two kinds of three year olds. all three year olds sooner or later threaten their parents with holding their breath. all parents laugh at this, as it's a physiological impossibility : if you do any sort of a good job you necessarily pass out, and once you pass out autosomatic control restarts breathing. the two kinds of kids are : the ones that are dissuaded by this ; and the one

19:22

you have no contribution in there.

19:23

o ?

19:23

seed shot, la fin ?

19:23

no, but it's for the benefit of the mother.

19:24

so the threat is only directed at the mother ?

19:24

well you know, small kids. their relationship is to mom.

19:25

to be sure, but then 'threaten their parents with holding their breath' is really 'threaten their mothers'

19:26

well, just like in a movie : actor threatens the other actor AND the audience, but can't really hear the audience.

19:26

and even still, i think panta's mom would get a kick out of seeing him pull it off

19:27

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pete_dushenski will have popcorn on hand, regardless

19:27

speaking of which, how did it take movie theatres however many decades to figure out reserved seating ?

19:28

there's ONE theatre in town with this : reserved seating, wine+beer, hot food, the works

19:28

fantastic way to spend $20 (normal movie is $13)

19:28

i've yet to see a full movie theatre.

19:29

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pete_dushenski has seen several times, unfortunately

19:29

http://trilema.com/2010/imaginarium/ << real pix, or how i fucked a girl in of 3k empty seats.

19:29

Imaginarium on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LXaTua )

19:37

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318569 << this needs to be taught ? more gender equalities studies needed plox. boys have no such inability.

19:37

Logged on 06-11-2015 19:40:43; mircea_popescu: which is why teaching slavegirls to orgasm on command is important. the internalised sexuality is a good and useful proxy for a great many other things they need.

19:41

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318577 << americans do this domestically too ! http://abcnews.go.com/Health/york-man-grows-inches-surgery/story?id=15776730

19:41

Logged on 06-11-2015 19:45:17; ascii_field: there is, iirc, a clinic in ru that does it. booked for years in advance.

19:41

New York Man 'Grows' Six Inches Through Surgery - ABC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbhDfh )

19:41

"Surgeons break the leg bone in two and implant a state-of-the-art telescopic rod into the middle of the broken bones which then pulls the bone apart very slowly, about one millimeter a day. New bone grows around it and tissues like the muscle, the nerves, the arteries, and the skin, regenerate as well. At about $85,000, the procedure is expensive and the process lengthy. It takes at least three months to complete it

19:41

it requires demanding and excruciating physical therapy."

19:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92802 @ 0.00054301 = 50.3924 BTC [+] {5}

19:52

pete_dushenski: I see two things there: a deep, pervasive obedience in human beings and a total lack of sane input

19:52

that he should be tall or short or have a flagpole in his ass was not and was never his idea

19:53

and who can say that their ideas are their own ?

19:53

for me, an open question, but surely approaches 0

19:54

arguably, will/cock is what separates actors from audience

19:54

audience has ideas too, but so what

19:55

too busy eating popcorn and chirping to be on stage

19:58

mhm, perhaps it is a not a question of whether moved, but by what

19:59

them, other humans

19:59

a man with will; that is the one harder to define

19:59

one can say himself, but is he committing tautology?

19:59

that's the open question

20:00

'who is the first mover'

20:01

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318830 << lel. somehow brings to mind teh who 'conference' racket.

20:01

Logged on 06-11-2015 21:07:48; mircea_popescu: stop throwing the motherfucking curve. have some productivity enhancement.

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trinque goes to pick things up and put them down again, and to ponder this

20:01

which 'conferences' are really conventions

20:02

trinque: pick up spinoza sometime

20:05

re: 'conpherences' : http://www.conventionbusinesstravel.com/events/growth2015.aspx << looks like i just missed one in my own backyard, featuring speakers that include, and i couldn't make this up, a magician.

20:05

2015 Business Productivity & Growth Conference | Convention Business Travel ... ( http://bit.ly/1lbiJrn )

20:19

http://www.capecodtimes.com/article/20151103/NEWS11/151109846/101083 <<< Best title EVAH

20:19

Baby's death today in Sandwich is under investigation - Breaking News Updates - capecodtimes.com - Hyannis, MA ... ( http://bit.ly/1LXiwR9 )

20:27

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71534 @ 0.00054435 = 38.9395 BTC [+] {4}

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20:50

asciilifeform & all, I've added one more change to V for the forthcoming version of 99998: People have been letting me know that if their system us using a version of perl less than 5.12 that it's been causing problems. So i've added a statement that requires a minimum of 5.12.

20:50

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20435 @ 0.00054455 = 11.1279 BTC [+] {2}

20:50

in the process of testing that change as well as the change for the temporary gpg directory.

20:51

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mircea_popescu goes by, sees asscrack moving through the doorcrack.

20:51

who the fuck came up with gyms and why the fuck would you want the women working out outside the home.

20:52

'need a reason to get out of the house'

20:53

'need to find a fitness instructor worth banging while you're at work'

20:53

Does this one not require Graph::Easy ?

20:54

This version will also have the change where Graph::Easy is not required unless you invoke v with the `g' or `graph' command

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pete_dushenski to dinner

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21:17

mod6: why does it fail with versions under 5.12?

21:17

because the 'each' keyword isn't supported.

21:17

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ben_vulpes has just rediscovered that gpg doesn't handle filename wildcards gracefully or at all

21:18

mod6: i see

21:21

"In the world where the media postulates social media as an absolute requirement of the modern era-- the era where everything is fetishized-- no one is permitted to make the distinction between a value and the picture of a value, they are made equivalent, so daring to criticize Randi's baby pictures is made to sound like misogyny or misobaby. It's not. I love food but if you ask me to look at a picture of a food I wil

21:21

l poison your toothpaste. Be careful: the point is not that a woman shouldn't post her baby pictures, the point is that the system cannot profit from her baby except as a photo, so that in order to get them to do it more-- to be online more-- the system teaches them to overvalue the photo; and this must necessarily be at the expense of the object itself. #porn."

21:21

aww.

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asciilifeform finally home

21:22

ben_vulpes: consider reading the src to gpg

21:22

ben_vulpes: it is very interesting in all the wrong ways

21:32

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpq5dKnYJs << interesting sport - fake hanging

21:32

Dîmenê dawî ji şanoya "Nama Leyla Qasim" - Koma Qamişlo ya serbixwe - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1kzS4nx )

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22:18

[Trilema] How an economy functions ; how the pretense of an economy functions. - http://trilema.com/2015/how-an-economy-functions-how-the-pretense-of-an-economy-functions/

22:21

new code changes seem to be working good with manual testing; tested a bunch of different scenarios including if one does not have Graph::Easy installed, or if one has a version of perl less than 5.12. Working good there. all automated tests are passing.

22:22

still on track to sign and release v99998 this weekend.

22:22

congrats mod6

22:24

thanks asciilifeform. forgot to mention that the new tmp gnupg dir is working well also.

22:24

The release email will outline the changes.

22:25

[BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Federal Reserve will raise interest rate at December FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1221/federal-reserve-will-raise-interest-rate-at-december/#b3

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22:43

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31250 @ 0.00053174 = 16.6169 BTC [-] {2}

22:46

danielpbarron

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1318525 << Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me. 24 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will save it.

22:46

Logged on 06-11-2015 19:31:11; mircea_popescu: that if you don't despise yourself and your own achievements, you'll never get anywhere. but not too much! because you also won't get anywhere! etc.

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23:05

<pete_dushenski> BingoBoingo: 2 legs good, 4 legs better ? or what was it... << In the end it reverses as the pigs become nearly indistinguishable from the humans, except fatter. ESR in that pic seemed to have bagged a descendant of "napoleon"

23:07

<mircea_popescu> who the fuck came up with gyms and why the fuck would you want the women working out outside the home. << To bring grief to the Mayogendered with a demonstration of gender. Also squats build booty.

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23:36

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43300 @ 0.00053371 = 23.1096 BTC [+] {4}

23:39

danielpbarron

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319117 >> What happened to the economy when Revlon went bankrupt ? << supposed to say 'myspace' in the 2nd column?

23:39

Logged on 07-11-2015 03:18:41; deedbot-: [Trilema] How an economy functions ; how the pretense of an economy functions. - http://trilema.com/2015/how-an-economy-functions-how-the-pretense-of-an-economy-functions/

23:44

danielpbarron aty

23:46

"I'm pretty sure that's Charlize Theron, not Scarlett Johansson." And I'm pretty sure they're the same person, and just because now she's Rachel Maddow doesn't mean she's serious.

23:46

loller.

23:46

who the fuck is rachel maddow

23:47

but in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/df2fcf02fd786b354f2a5578d437180d/tumblr_mtjuu9NmgI1ssal8ko1_500.gif

23:47