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00:01 BingoBoingo Eh, it was one of those masked hero movies so if he didn't die and asked for too much money they could have replaced him.
00:01 BingoBoingo But he was the bad guy just as he is when he does drag as rachel.
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00:36 BingoBoingo trinque: How was the up and down?
00:37 trinque pretty great; my tmux session now supports utf8 hieroglyphs
00:38 trinque oh working out, good as well
00:38 BingoBoingo cool
00:38 trinque plenty of eye candy over there; I did various machine press, curls, that weighted rowing machine
00:39 trinque focusing on the things I've neglected sitting at a keyboard too long
00:46 BingoBoingo AH
00:52 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
00:52 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 381.3, vol: 40342.05981532 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 370.068, vol: 18665.95388 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 382.12, vol: 73731.05124534 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 380.0, vol: 11.9990794 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 401.23755, vol: 79982.66730000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 379.0, vol: 65.86842731 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 370.599, vol: 239.35691954 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
00:52 BingoBoingo ;;more
00:52 gribble 388.072157846
01:01 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-11-2015#1319015 << here's to wishing our newly made 'orange revolutionary' a speedy meeting with headzoff.com
01:01 assbot Logged on 06-11-2015 23:53:27; punkman: from el reg http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1096&cpage=1#comment-237490
01:03 asciilifeform 'Inasmuch as, you are one of the most influent persons in one of the most talented community (Hackers) in the world, I humbly ask you write about Iran and what’s going on there. Please tell the world that Persian people are fight for freedom ....'
01:05 trinque "I’m armed and maintaining Condition Yellow." << bwahahahaha
01:05 asciilifeform 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ?
01:05 trinque so much heavy breathing
01:05 asciilifeform is next condition 'brown' ?
01:06 trinque hopefully his mother is on call for the code brown with fresh undies.
01:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49490 @ 0.00053568 = 26.5108 BTC [+] {2}
01:08 asciilifeform '09.
01:08 asciilifeform where did this go, anyway.
01:08 asciilifeform same place as the hongkong attempt 6 mo. ago, presumably.
01:15 asciilifeform turned out that usg's cia and dept of s. only had so many bag lunches to pass out to idiots sitting and blocking streets
01:15 asciilifeform in hk or teheran or kiev, wherever
01:15 asciilifeform i can almost picture some underground phaktory cranking'em out.
01:15 asciilifeform for the next go-around.
01:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00054168 = 7.8002 BTC [+] {2}
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01:51 mircea_popescu i<asciilifeform> 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? << dja know the stephen the great jokes ?
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02:01 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSaXYNJVAAA9Ogg.jpg
02:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20BQJO2 )
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02:21 punkman asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpq5dKnYJs << I dun get it. fake-stoning could be fun too
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02:21 assbot Dîmenê dawî ji şanoya "Nama Leyla Qasim" - Koma Qamişlo ya serbixwe - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1kzS4nx )
02:22 punkman oic now " this is the enactment and remambrance ceremony of the female kurdish student Leyla Qasım who was captured, tortured, tried and executed within 20 days in 1974."
02:25 mircea_popescu they gotta have something better than one she-kurd 40 years ago
02:25 mircea_popescu how about 40 kurdettes last year ?
02:29 punkman myeah
02:29 punkman http://vnhacker.blogspot.com/2015/11/tales-of-cryptographer.html
02:29 assbot thái: Tales of The Cryptographer ... ( http://bit.ly/1L2omNk )
02:32 mircea_popescu "Keeping in mind that actual stalking has never been dealt with in any significant way ever, the desire of a few female writers to curb online anonymity wouldn't be enough to get an @ mention, except that this happens to coincide with what the media wants, and now we have the two vectors summing to form a public health crisis. "Cyberbullying is a huge problem!" Yes, but not because it is hurtful, HA! no one cares about
02:32 mircea_popescu your feelings-- but because criticism makes women want to be more private-- and the privacy of the women is bad. The women have to be online, they do most of the clicking and receive most of the clicks. Anonymous cyberbullying is a barrier to increasing consumption, it's gotta go."
02:33 mircea_popescu or how giving women money fucks up media for everyone. now they gotta cater to what women want, too, and since what women want is probably somethign stupid and without explosions in it, you get two anodyne fagboys to replace harrison ford, at 1/4 the pay each.
02:35 punkman I feel like I've read that one two dozen times
02:35 punkman !s cyberbullying is a barrier
02:35 assbot 2 results for 'cyberbullying is a barrier' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=cyberbullying+is+a+barrier
02:37 mircea_popescu i confess to being slightly obsessed.
02:37 mircea_popescu this entire anonimity bs never made any sense to me
02:38 BingoBoingo "STEM is soooooo last decade. FAG is the new science.Fatminism, Arts and Gender Studies will train a new generation of educated young womyn and allies to compete with the likes of Asia."
02:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16718 @ 0.00054168 = 9.0558 BTC [+] {2}
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04:36 BingoBoingo https://sli.mg/k6ceiZ
04:36 assbot Image hosted on Sli.mg ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mhe1yU )
04:38 BingoBoingo http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/columns/joe-holleman/april-simpson-ktvi-part-ways-over-intern-dispute/article_75783efa-e82a-5d73-afdf-83db0d7397e6.html
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05:11 shinohai ;;later tell mod6 v99998 tests passed all boxes, tested the < 5.12 perl on all then installed proper.
05:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
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06:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3696 @ 0.00054168 = 2.002 BTC [+] {2}
06:30 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31467 @ 0.00054442 = 17.1313 BTC [+] {2}
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07:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8012 @ 0.00054616 = 4.3758 BTC [+]
07:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36446 @ 0.00054533 = 19.8751 BTC [-]
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09:51 punkman http://www.themarysue.com/zoe-quinn-new-book-and-film/
09:51 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1S6yqdG )
09:51 punkman "The book, Crash Override: How To Save The Internet From Itself, is a memoir", "Pascal Pictures won the bidding war for rights to the book, and Scarlett Johannson is circling the project, apparently very keen to play Zoe."
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10:08 shinohai So how is Scarlett Johannson gonn go from hot to tumblresque ?
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10:40 mircea_popescu eh gtfo. you knew dumbass was angling for "celebrity" since day one
10:40 mircea_popescu us "feminism" = wannabe michael moore
10:40 mircea_popescu the fat fag sucked. these harpies ? really, 0 interest, what else is on ?
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11:01 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you've got mailz
11:09 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319173 << nein
11:09 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 06:51:36; mircea_popescu: i<asciilifeform> 'yellow' is, one might suppose, wet pants ? << dja know the stephen the great jokes ?
11:10 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319176 << when i ran into the linked film, i sorta assumed that something went wrong and at least one of the gallows birds really did hang properly. was very disappointed to learn that this was not so.
11:10 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 07:21:15; punkman: asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpq5dKnYJs << I dun get it. fake-stoning could be fun too
11:11 asciilifeform i find the subject of 'theatrical noose' interesting. how does it work? are there multiple schemes? have there been notable historic snafus with this device ?
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11:11 asciilifeform i'm also at least vaguely aware of at least one case where a prisoner arranged to be hanged on a theatrical stage, as part of a performance
11:11 asciilifeform (properly hanged, that is)
11:12 shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319215 <<< asking those burning questions others dare not ponder ....
11:12 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 16:11:21; asciilifeform: i find the subject of 'theatrical noose' interesting. how does it work? are there multiple schemes? have there been notable historic snafus with this device ?
11:13 asciilifeform (so many puzzles. e.g., is a 'long drop' hanging typically also filmed with a doctored noose? or a dummy ?)
11:16 asciilifeform 'Fareweel, ye dungeons dark and strong, / Fareweel, Fareweel tae thee. / MacPherson's time will nae be lang / On yonder gallows tree. / Sae rantin'ly, sae wantonly / Sae dauntin'ly gaed he / He played a sprig and danced a jig / Below the gallows tree.' (tm) (r)
11:16 punkman http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4396077.html
11:16 assbot Actor playing Judas dies in hanging scene - Chicago Sun-Times | HighBeam Research ... ( http://bit.ly/1SzqSRB )
11:17 asciilifeform 'The character Judas hangs himself in the musical, but the harness protects the actor. Investigators were trying to determine why the man didn't attach it.' << good timez
11:18 punkman I guess the easy way to do it might be a harness around your armpits
11:18 asciilifeform how did they go about, i might ask, 'determining why the man did not attach it' ? with a seance ?
11:19 asciilifeform 'ouija' board ?
11:22 punkman http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133896/Actor-accidentally-hangs-stage-enacting-death-Judas-Iscariot-Easter-play.html
11:22 assbot Actor accidentally hangs himself on stage while re-enacting death of Judas Iscariot in Easter play | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1SzrJ4u )
11:22 punkman another judas :P
11:23 punkman "But the safety vest the actor was wearing under is robe is believed to have risen up across his neck, strangling him. "
11:25 punkman I guess this happens every other year http://www.salon.com/2000/05/08/judas/
11:25 assbot Actor playing Judas accidentally hangs himself - Salon.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Szs2MJ )
11:32 punkman in other news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OYfioDIzrc
11:32 assbot Force Flops? Chewbacca arrested in Ukraine after campaigning for Darth Vader - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Szt4Z4 )
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12:08 shinohai http://thestir.cafemom.com/politics_views/145144/teen_haunted_house_hanging_accident <<< thanks for making me waste the afternoonover tea and morbid subjects asciilifeform
12:09 assbot Teen Haunted House Hanging Accident Was Mistaken for Scary Prop | The Stir ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvDbjf )
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12:35 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319205 << what in the name of beelzebub is a 'crash override' ?
12:35 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 14:51:09; punkman: "The book, Crash Override: How To Save The Internet From Itself, is a memoir", "Pascal Pictures won the bidding war for rights to the book, and Scarlett Johannson is circling the project, apparently very keen to play Zoe."
12:35 asciilifeform is this a reference to the old AUTOVON 'flash override' button ?
12:35 asciilifeform and how does it relate to what some idiot sow did ?
12:36 * asciilifeform gives up trying to unravel this mystery, goes back to actual wurk
12:37 asciilifeform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autovon#/media/File:66a3aDTMFpad.jpg << the button. upper right hand of photo.
12:38 assbot Autovon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvFRNJ )
12:39 punkman https://github.com/ajalt/fuckitpy "Some code has an error? Fuck it."
12:39 assbot ajalt/fuckitpy · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvG3fV )
12:40 punkman also known as php
12:40 asciilifeform punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-05-2014#678174
12:40 assbot Logged on 16-05-2014 17:52:50; benkay: fuckit.py
12:42 asciilifeform it is difficult not to be reminded, reading this, of the legends re: icbm cables with differing pin counts being pounded in with a sledge (from ru literature, obviously pertaining to sov rockets, but i'd be surprised if similar legends did not circulate in usa)
12:42 punkman asciilifeform: was answer to what is crash override, but also just remembers it was a nickname of someone in Hackers movie
12:43 asciilifeform was, wasn't it.
12:43 asciilifeform l0l
12:44 punkman "Crash Override Network is a pro bono support group for victims of large scale online abuse, including revenge porn and doxing."
12:44 punkman and new Star Wars lead is a girl, and she'll probably get bullied at some point
12:45 punkman Disney knows how much stupid shit all the fangirls will buy
12:45 asciilifeform http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2015-09/1441799497_43.jpg << them cables
12:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvGDKK )
12:45 asciilifeform (from a very spiffy piece, http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/74282-vzglyad-iznutri-na-proizvodstvo-raketnyh-dvigateley.html concerning motor factory)
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12:45 assbot Взгляд изнутри на производство ракетных двигателей » E-news.su ... ( http://bit.ly/1OvGEOB )
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13:02 punkman "It's just you and your least favorite child. Come to Arbys. Feed him emulsified beef reformed w meat glue. Watch him slowly die. Arbys."
13:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50500 @ 0.00054624 = 27.5851 BTC [+] {3}
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13:23 PeterL http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-11-2015#1316031 << The first thing I thought of when I saw this thing was the chairs the people use in the movie "WALL-E"
13:23 assbot Logged on 04-11-2015 18:49:20; pete_dushenski: http://altwork.com/ << save the 'angel investor' 'prototype' blah blah, this is an intriguing workspace concept. only about a 2016-btc too
13:24 kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319259 < women in tech
13:24 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 17:45:53; asciilifeform: (from a very spiffy piece, http://www.e-news.su/in-russia/74282-vzglyad-iznutri-na-proizvodstvo-raketnyh-dvigateley.html concerning motor factory)
13:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i see!
13:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23931 @ 0.00054684 = 13.0864 BTC [+] {3}
13:39 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> with a seance ? << they just ask the other people.
13:40 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> and how does it relate to what some idiot sow did ? << because people keep talking about it as if it were important. and so what the hell's the difference.
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14:05 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: spiffy commentary on ye olde broadcast !
14:05 mircea_popescu :p
14:05 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ytou ever found that tlp where he says "x derp is just there because the seat existed" ?
14:05 mircea_popescu now I fucking need it too.
14:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: here ya go http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2015#1299109
14:09 assbot Logged on 15-10-2015 00:26:51; mircea_popescu: "If Biederman never existed, nothing would be different. You read his resume, you think, wow, he's a big player. You don't realize that if he didn't exist there would be some other person in his exact position, who would also have become a Distinguished Professor, won awards, written 450 publications, etc. The machine was already in place, his slot was going to get filled; his mind didn't discover
14:09 mircea_popescu ty!
14:09 asciilifeform np.
14:09 mircea_popescu kept googling for biedermeyer
14:09 * asciilifeform throbs memory biceps
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14:10 mircea_popescu updated a little that real/fake article from yest.
14:11 mircea_popescu funny how this happens, on perhaps 1% of articles, i actually want to add more stuff in the morning.
14:11 * asciilifeform also does this.
14:11 * asciilifeform brb, playing with pet
14:16 deedbot- [Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), October 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/
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14:43 mircea_popescu "There should be no controversy: a guy should never tell a girl he's going to rape her, online or not, kidding or not." umm,... and whence doth that should come from ? what nonsense is this, anyway ?
14:43 mircea_popescu it's not that there should be no controversy THIS way. There should be, and really there is not, any controversy the other way. ~Some guys~ SHOULD tell a girl they'll rape her. If they don't, how are you to stand out ? And "girls" in the general must be convinced in their bones that either they put out with their choice or get collectively raped by everyone. This part seems to work okay, anyway.
14:45 mircea_popescu " there should be no instinct at all to defend such a jerk, and yet----- and yet that is precisely the instinct many people get." << check it out, usg wants monopoly on orcdom now. IT can defend the outcasts so they can terrorize the cattle, i'm not "allowed to" because hey, there can be only one and it can't be me, amirite ?
14:45 mircea_popescu usg gun git raped in the ass.
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15:01 ben_vulpes ...
15:01 ben_vulpes some girls wanna hear it!
15:02 ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319280 << /me swoons
15:02 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 19:09:55; *: asciilifeform throbs memory biceps
15:03 ben_vulpes (but you know they're weird and perverted etc)
15:09 mircea_popescu and by "Some girls" we mean "the vast majority of human females of reproductive age", but hey, they don't read random derpy us website nobody reads so they don't count\
15:09 mircea_popescu har har tell me more about some film boxxy made.
15:17 asciilifeform l0l how're things in the entomology corps !
15:18 asciilifeform (hey it beats scatology - who am i to talk! i'm writhing in the guts of winblowz kernel presently...)
15:19 asciilifeform in other 'news',
15:19 asciilifeform happy holiday! http://littlecom.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Aurora1917Meschaninov10.jpg
15:19 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NiMr4c )
15:20 asciilifeform 'Что тебе снится, крейсер «Аврора», В час, когда утро встаёт над Невой?' (tm) (r)
15:21 asciilifeform http://www.norma40.ru/chd/aur.htm << for musicoarchaeologists only.
15:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NiMz3N )
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15:43 mod6 so apparently the 'each' keyword is pretty much to be avoided like the plague.
15:44 mod6 i've re-written the traversals of the map for ante & desc and my new changes passed the automated tests.
15:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00054533 = 6.0532 BTC [-] {2}
15:45 mod6 it's only 2 more lines of code really. so it's not a bad solution, and this affords me not to have to require perl 5.12 or greater.
15:45 mircea_popescu good idea.
15:45 mod6 i've got one more spot in the code to change out 'each'
15:45 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 4.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1216/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jan-2016/#b55
15:46 mod6 mircea_popescu: yeah, perl v5.005 or whatever has been in use since 98, lot of systems have from that version forward. would be good to support older versions.
15:46 mod6 and get away from 'each'.
15:46 mod6 anyway, will update later when I get a chance. thx!
15:51 mod6 ok, last place of 'each' removed -- only one more line of code required there.
15:51 mod6 running automated tests...
15:57 mod6 ok everything passed. I'm glad I wrote all of those. makes regression testing on core functionality like this so much easier.
15:58 ben_vulpes TESTS
15:58 mod6 shinohai: thanks for doing all that testing on V. looks like I might need another round yet before tomorrow.
15:59 ben_vulpes WRITE MOAR TESTS
15:59 mod6 I'll try to chat you up later tonight.
15:59 mod6 ben_vulpes: indeed.
15:59 ben_vulpes "my only job around here is to scowl loudly at bad commits and demand more tests" - $bzprtnr
16:00 asciilifeform 'test can prove the presence of bugs, but never their absence' -- vladimir ilich knuthikstra
16:03 ben_vulpes i think you may have even cited that before
16:03 asciilifeform in unrelated nyooz, that xv6 thing actually builds without any massage whatsoever, and... runs
16:04 asciilifeform remarkably slowly, even for an emulated thing
16:04 asciilifeform no cache.
16:04 asciilifeform but passes the author's testatron (included)
16:04 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: they have their place. i find it convenient to have tests when rewriting large swaths of a thing either i've written: with the behavior codified, i don't have to manually poke at the thing to ensure that it still behaves the way it did before i tore it apart and put it back together.
16:05 asciilifeform aha
16:05 * asciilifeform not a principled opponent of testatrons
16:05 asciilifeform but it is not a substitute for knowing wtf you're doing
16:05 asciilifeform see also mircea_popescu's article on 'exam takers'
16:05 ben_vulpes yes yes
16:06 asciilifeform for anybody else who is considering an evening of playing with xv6, some notes:
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16:06 asciilifeform 1) you don't have to use the serial console. the thing includes basic text term and kbd handler.
16:07 asciilifeform 2) if you have 64-bit qemu because you're an old osdev junkie, qemu-system-x86_64 -smp 2 -m 512 -hda xv6.img -hdb fs.img instead of the makefile's runner.
16:07 asciilifeform 3) mighty slow, because the thing actually prods the disk every time you file
16:07 mircea_popescu define slow.
16:08 asciilifeform hundreds of msec to fopen()
16:08 asciilifeform sorta like msdos on a 8086
16:09 mircea_popescu aha
16:09 asciilifeform i haven't tried to plant the thing on iron, as of yet. nor do i know whether the author has.
16:09 mircea_popescu so basically like ipad with ios 9?
16:09 asciilifeform leaving this for other folks here.
16:09 * asciilifeform does not have this machine, cannot comment
16:10 asciilifeform ben_vulpes ^^ ?
16:10 asciilifeform moar like win95 with 8MB of ram
16:10 asciilifeform but why ruin appetites.
16:12 asciilifeform but yes, it is a unix, in about 200kB of src.
16:13 asciilifeform and it can also 'compile' to... book
16:13 asciilifeform (contains pagebreak comments)
16:13 asciilifeform (iirc minix also did)
16:13 mircea_popescu ha.
16:14 mircea_popescu 200kb is just about a book
16:14 asciilifeform the principal difference between this and actual sys6 is that a) written in ansi, rather than k&r c b) ab initio, for x86 b) ab initio for multiple processors, which actually simplifies threading & locking
16:16 asciilifeform and apparently there are some bonus gizmos, like a ramdisk device, in there.
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16:16 ben_vulpes how does the ipud figure into this?
16:16 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i think he meant it as an example of slow box ?
16:16 ben_vulpes more like iphone 4s with ios 9
16:16 asciilifeform prolly in the sense of http://www.loper-os.org/?p=300
16:16 assbot Loper OS » Going Nowhere Really Fast, or How Computers Only Come in Two Speeds. ... ( http://bit.ly/1OVhuca )
16:20 BingoBoingo <shinohai> So how is Scarlett Johannson gonn go from hot to tumblresque ? << Remember that series of films where she went from a spy to a public figure holding fucking glowsticks on a movie poster?
16:22 deedbot- [Trilema] The Minuscule Crab of Doom and the Sympathetic Spool of Drool - an endlessly complex machine to shred your dreams to pixie dust! - http://trilema.com/2015/the-minuscule-crab-of-doom-and-the-sympathetic-spool-of-drool-an-endlessly-complex-machine-to-shred-your-dreams-to-pixie-dust/
16:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19271 @ 0.00054693 = 10.5399 BTC [+] {2}
16:28 ben_vulpes http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/#footnote_1_63841 "to survive" << i suppose if the thing can be said to survive while asciilifeform starves...
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16:28 assbot No Such lAbs (S.NSA), October 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qb878w )
16:28 asciilifeform eh not starving yet.
16:28 asciilifeform might have to work at a kitten recycling plant tho
16:29 asciilifeform survivable.
16:30 ben_vulpes https://twitter.com/NWikihow/status/654660352706121729
16:30 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what, by the way do you mean by "web work"?
16:30 asciilifeform where
16:30 ben_vulpes anything touching the request/response cycle? apis etc?
16:31 asciilifeform roughly, anywhere asm is never a thing.
16:31 ben_vulpes our conversation the other night. "wot suggests i..."
16:31 asciilifeform ah
16:33 asciilifeform oh and that pic is pure win.
16:33 asciilifeform http://m.wikihow.com/Be-a-Communist << source, linked in earlier
16:33 assbot How to Be a Communist (with Pictures) - wikiHow ... ( http://bit.ly/1S7fCuS )
16:34 asciilifeform 'Avoid causing physical or mental harm other people in the course of your revolutionary activities. Becoming an oppressor yourself will not further the communist cause, and will only land you in jail!' << nice try capons
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16:35 asciilifeform this is rather like reading an article 'how to become a nazi' and therein reading that you gotta gas ~yourself~ with zyklon
~ 19 minutes ~
16:55 thestringpuller asciilifeform ain't starvin!
16:55 thestringpuller he probably shops at whole foods
16:56 asciilifeform partial foods.
16:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20800 @ 0.00054533 = 11.3429 BTC [-] {2}
16:59 BingoBoingo !b 2
16:59 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3E76YJA.txt )
17:02 ben_vulpes so my father managed a gentleman who'd moved from the soviet block many years ago. the man walks into my fathers office one day, asks for some privacy to talk about american things. "in odessa, we put children out to nap. cold air, is good for little lungs! anyways," hands my father a letter, "what is this 'child protective services?"
17:02 ben_vulpes "oh, they'll take your children away if you don't conform to us norms."
17:03 ben_vulpes "child was completely wrapped! not a big deal!"
17:03 ben_vulpes "you don't understand. they. will. take. your. children."
17:03 asciilifeform wrapped ?
17:03 ben_vulpes "this is worse than russia! even kgb would not take children...my wife will never go along..."
17:04 ben_vulpes wrapped up, bundled, swaddled, generally speaking insulated from the cold.
17:04 asciilifeform ah
17:04 asciilifeform clearly fella doesn't read ru fishwraps or even blogz
17:04 ben_vulpes "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia."
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17:04 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: this was a decade or three ago.
17:04 asciilifeform this kind of usgistic rape has its advocates in ru, and they are - correctly - beaten on the streets or wherever found
17:04 asciilifeform ah
17:05 asciilifeform one of the points on which ru is the last bastion of sanity in the white man's world
17:05 ben_vulpes the west may have been brought under dominion of the feds with marriage laws, but the whole country is dominated by CPS.
17:06 asciilifeform ... and the divorce-theft courts, etc.
17:06 asciilifeform don't forget the 'child support'/alimony apparatus
17:06 ben_vulpes eh, only of the untermenschen.
17:07 asciilifeform mno
17:07 ben_vulpes and truly stupid (sort of) monied.
17:07 asciilifeform i personally knew a fella who wasn't the least bit 'unter' who got rolled up.
17:07 asciilifeform RIP.
17:08 ben_vulpes more of a tool of wives and mothers than the state and snitches though, isn't it?
17:08 asciilifeform didja know that an engineer's spermatozoa cost 5x moar to raise to adulthood than a slum bunny's ?
17:08 asciilifeform at least according to usg.
17:08 ben_vulpes "manner to which she has become accustomed"
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17:09 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: it's usg that garnishes the wages, and then cuts the cheques (minus a vig)
17:09 asciilifeform so it is quite unlike a normal civil judgement in usa
17:09 ben_vulpes if your wages are subject to garnishment you *are* unter.
17:09 * asciilifeform adjusts arse broomstick
17:09 * asciilifeform trims jets
17:10 ben_vulpes yes, shielding assets is hard and not for everyone.
17:10 asciilifeform as far as i'm concerned, it is something that is done by martians, on mars.
17:11 asciilifeform phun phakt: it is, in effect, a criminal offense for a host of this particular type of parasite to become indigent
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17:11 asciilifeform pony up, or jail.
17:12 asciilifeform incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill
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17:13 asciilifeform his 'wages' couldn't be garnished, either, or so he thought.
17:14 asciilifeform ('collectivized', gulaged, drunk invalids took over, burned it down.)
17:16 asciilifeform since mircea_popescu is asleep, i will have to play him
17:16 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: aha!
17:16 asciilifeform ... if everybody were a mongol warrior, no one could be dekulakized !
17:17 ben_vulpes i am actually pondering approaches to collectivize the thing ahead of the horde.
17:17 asciilifeform (except that there'd be nothing for these virile fellas to plunder. they'd be stuck fucking own cows)
17:17 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: aha that's precisely that he did
17:17 ben_vulpes who became the new 'owners'?
17:17 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: hired invalids from the war to run the mill, to 'collectivize ahead of the herd'
17:18 asciilifeform they drunkenly burned it, and he answered for it.
17:18 asciilifeform (or so goes the tale)
17:19 ben_vulpes why'd he have to hire invalids?
17:19 asciilifeform didn't ~have~ to
17:19 asciilifeform but thought it would stave off the inevitable transfer to the 'deserving'
17:20 asciilifeform complicated.
17:20 asciilifeform but end result - same.
17:20 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-10-2015#1299464
17:20 assbot Logged on 15-10-2015 15:54:26; mircea_popescu: tru to life too. "he tried to make the trains wear out the rail!"
17:21 ben_vulpes sounds a lot like "don't work with people outside of your wot" to me.
17:22 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: gotta understand, you can't appease mice, rats, lice.
17:22 asciilifeform they want it all.
17:22 asciilifeform ~especially~ whatever it is you haven't given up yet.
17:24 asciilifeform not aiming to drive ben_vulpes to the bottle, so i'll not elaborate examples. but i think it is clear.
17:33 BingoBoingo Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
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17:34 * ben_vulpes tempted to drink already.
17:35 BingoBoingo From the derp mines http://dpaste.com/1WVATZ4.txt
17:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hlv6uL )
17:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: at the risk of strengthening ben_vulpes's drink, must point out, that the disease is not likely to take this particular form
17:36 asciilifeform usg's present direction is the one where the shop keeper is made to answer for various usgistic misfortunes suffered by his staff (e.g., 'obamacare')
17:37 BingoBoingo Aha
17:39 BingoBoingo So what you are saying is ben_vulpes is hitting the scotch tonight
17:40 asciilifeform i'd recommend the bong, to better 's-a-incadrat-in-colectiv'
17:40 BingoBoingo As answering these misfortunes might soon lower his future booze to "Country Club" vodka and Thunderbird
17:41 asciilifeform (from mircea_popescu's http://trilema.com/cum-s-a-incadrat-in-colectiv )
17:41 assbot Cum s-a incadrat in colectiv ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HlvJEE )
17:41 asciilifeform вписатся в коллектив to those of us in east orcland
17:44 asciilifeform in other lulz,
17:44 asciilifeform http://fokus.dn.se/edward-snowden-english
17:44 assbot Edward Snowden interview with Dagens Nyheter - DN Fokus ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hlw7mF )
17:44 BingoBoingo I dunno that bong can quite relieve existential dread in the same way drink does
17:48 asciilifeform 'In 2007, FBI agents carried out so-called morning raids at the homes of people who worked or had worked at the NSA, and had tried to blow the whistle on a mass surveillance program they felt had gotten out of control. One man was dragged out of the shower in his home, a gun to his head, in front of his family. Another man opened his door and soon had the house full of black-clad agents in Kevlar vests searching his home until
17:48 asciilifeform late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who was investigated and pros
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17:48 asciilifeform ecuted, after trying to talk to his superiors about the mass surveillance, was himself.'
17:48 asciilifeform ^ lulzy and, iirc, factual.
17:52 BingoBoingo interesting
17:53 ben_vulpes bong amplifies existential dread
17:54 asciilifeform 'A woman at the Intelligence Committee of the House of Representatives had her house raided by the FBI at six o’clock in the morning, because she’d asked questions about the program.'
17:56 asciilifeform this is part of why it is difficult to take mr s seriously as anything other than a disinfo plant
17:56 asciilifeform an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release
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17:57 asciilifeform and wouldn't remain a u.s. subject
17:57 asciilifeform (or what, they won't process his renunciation in moscow ?)
17:57 asciilifeform not even a very good fake
17:57 asciilifeform (a good fake would fake a renunciation so we wouldn't be asking this question)
17:58 asciilifeform phakt: a ru citizen is not extraditable, his removal would be an act of war.
17:59 asciilifeform actual sovereign coutriez, they sorta exist !
18:01 BingoBoingo Well, to renounce he'd have to go to the embassy or consulate where he'd be subject to arrest
18:03 asciilifeform can't renounce by mail ?
18:03 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 5.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Silver at or under $9/oz before December 2015 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1224/silver-at-or-under-9-oz-before-december-2015/#b1
18:03 asciilifeform and technically you can rid yourself of u.s. citizenship in a few other ways
18:03 asciilifeform (join a foreign army, take office, etc)
18:04 asciilifeform blackshirts will still take shots at him given half a chance, but renouncing would be a gesture in line with the overall theme of the play
18:04 asciilifeform the absence is conspicuous.
18:05 asciilifeform fact is, mr s (or, if you prefer, the character he is playing) has emphatically ~not~ 'set the bozo bit' on usg.
18:05 BingoBoingo can't renounce by mail, and the other ways still require US Dept State to recognize the invalidating act and bill Mr. S
18:05 asciilifeform believes in 'socialism with a human face' or whatever it is called here and now.
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18:06 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/09/us-increases-fee-to-relinquish-citizenship-and-residency/
18:06 assbot US Increases Fee to Relinquish Citizenship and Residency | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXjEFd )
18:07 BingoBoingo So yes, US requires "certifying" you did a citizenship disqualifying act
18:07 asciilifeform it isn't as if the hit squad gives a damn whether 'citizen' or not
18:07 asciilifeform but the ~symbol~.
18:08 asciilifeform what are we to make of the derping re: 'returning to usa for fair trial' ?
18:08 BingoBoingo Of course, but getting the symbol means delivering self to the hit squad
18:08 asciilifeform no
18:09 asciilifeform symbol would be, e.g., putting on a ru uniform and joining army
18:09 asciilifeform and on microphone to say 'i hope i get to be the one to glass ft meade'
18:09 BingoBoingo Ah
18:11 asciilifeform and very much ~not~, e.g., screwing around with 'aclu' and whatever else was described in that rag.
18:12 BingoBoingo Like Assange's refusal to enter shipping container as "diplomatic package"
18:13 asciilifeform eh, how do you know where the container's going.
18:13 asciilifeform enter, come out legs first.
18:13 BingoBoingo Well, he'd have to hope for ecuador
18:14 mircea_popescu lol increased yet again ?
18:14 mircea_popescu incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ?
18:14 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: cia prolly pre-dug a hole in ec for him
18:15 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: (or hero's welcome, as you please)
18:15 BingoBoingo What other hero's welcome is there?
18:15 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the kind where the mask comes off
18:16 BingoBoingo Oh apparently torrent infrastructure Hearnia'd brb, writing up
18:17 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319358 << wait, isn't this a 100% solution to problems ? there is no rule you must address disk as "disk", it can just be ram.
18:17 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 21:16:04; asciilifeform: and apparently there are some bonus gizmos, like a ramdisk device, in there.
18:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: box has actual disk for a reason ?
18:17 mircea_popescu fuck that. this works with ram only.
18:17 asciilifeform a la my buildroot ?
18:17 mircea_popescu yes.
18:18 mircea_popescu exctly a la your buildroot.
18:18 jurov bash flushed
18:20 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319367 << you don't understand how the revolution work.
18:20 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 21:28:31; ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-october-2015-statement/#footnote_1_63841 "to survive" << i suppose if the thing can be said to survive while asciilifeform starves...
18:20 mircea_popescu s.
18:21 asciilifeform the way it works is,
18:21 asciilifeform 'Не надо мне пощады,не надо мне награды, / а дайте мне винтовку и дайте мне коня... / А если я погибну,пусть красные отряды, / пусть красные отряды отплатят за меня.' (tm) (r) (mega-classic)
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18:23 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319382 << i lolled.
18:23 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 21:34:16; asciilifeform: 'Avoid causing physical or mental harm other people in the course of your revolutionary activities. Becoming an oppressor yourself will not further the communist cause, and will only land you in jail!' << nice try capons
18:23 mircea_popescu who are these schmucks ?
18:23 asciilifeform wikipedos
18:23 asciilifeform or whoever.
18:27 mircea_popescu they're like.... annoying 50s housefrau. "do whatever you will but don't go naked!111"
18:27 mircea_popescu yeah right. aren't you due at some perm salon or something ?
18:34 asciilifeform approx.,
18:34 asciilifeform 'no need have i of mercy, / no need have i of laurels, / but let me have a rifle, / and let me have a horse, / and if i chance to perish, / let my red platoonmates, / let my red platoonmates,/ make'em pay, of course.'
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18:35 mircea_popescu aha.
18:37 asciilifeform s/pay'em back/make'em pay
18:37 asciilifeform or rather the reverse
18:38 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319399 << or anywhere else.
18:38 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 22:04:24; ben_vulpes: "when it comes to children, the us /is/ worse than russia."
18:39 mircea_popescu in general, if you aim to raise children it's a bad idea to pick the nation of idiots.
18:40 ben_vulpes oh, now we like to compete in crowded markets?
18:41 mircea_popescu no ?
18:42 mircea_popescu children don't compete. that's the thing with childhood,
18:42 mircea_popescu and why communism is the ideology of the retarded.
18:44 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319415 << the obvious solution is obvious.
18:44 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 22:08:46; ben_vulpes: "manner to which she has become accustomed"
18:45 asciilifeform let's have the coordinates of the shangri-la without idiots
18:45 mircea_popescu no, that's not it. "you want kids, you live with the niggers. that's where the kids factory is. i commute to mine, you commute to yours."
18:46 mircea_popescu that way the manner she's accustomed will be correctly calibrated.
18:46 mircea_popescu it's unhealthy to raise kids in YOUR means anyway. especially daughters, but in general.
18:46 mircea_popescu let them earn their own.
18:46 asciilifeform imperial ru army
18:46 asciilifeform (but they didn't do daughters)
18:47 deedbot- [Qntra] Torrent Infrastructure Hindered as Demonii/YIFY/YTS Fall - http://qntra.net/2015/11/torrent-infrastructure-hindered-as-demoniiyifyyts-fall/
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18:47 mircea_popescu it's the manner in the civilised world (aka "eastern europe" in some sources). i suppose i should fish for this.
18:47 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/old-texts-on-traditional-marriage-vampirism-and-gayety/
18:47 assbot Old texts on traditional marriage ; vampirism and gayety. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhKgnE )
18:48 mircea_popescu kyra kyralina does hold some valuable etnofolkloric information.
18:48 mircea_popescu "Let me tell you a little of "traditional marriage". The traditional marriage of the Greekxiii works like so : the married woman, and her children, keep house in the castle. The married man, with his apprentices, keeps a workshop somewhere in the workshop quarters, outside the walls. He has an older woman there who cooks, because the apprentices are entitled to be fed by the master. The man visits the woman occasionall
18:48 mircea_popescu y, to beat her, to fuck her, to talk to her. Depending on how close they are, and marriages go through phases anyway. Some husbands may sleep with the woman, some may sleep at the workshop, some may alternate. And marriages go through phases anyway. The woman may not visit her husband. The kids do not generally get to, except boys of sufficient age, if the father even likes them at all. Which isn't that much of a given
18:48 mircea_popescu . Girls in no case do." of interest here.
18:49 asciilifeform hey my colleagues almost run this way
18:49 mircea_popescu this is how the world works, africans and their huts notwithstanding.
18:49 asciilifeform i don't think anybody cancelled this.
18:49 mircea_popescu how the fuck else.
18:49 asciilifeform (minus the old woman)
18:49 mircea_popescu from the chuka to the somali pirates, everyone.
18:53 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: btw it explains the unpopularity of 'telecommute' scheme in usa
18:53 mircea_popescu aha.
18:53 asciilifeform nobody pays working schmucks enough to keep two huts
18:53 asciilifeform and they'd have to
18:53 mircea_popescu as tlp wel lpoints out, it's not that "work" invades the home. is that you need the blinker for existential support.
18:54 mircea_popescu or as george points out, "you take tv out of this relationship, it is just murder"
18:54 mircea_popescu but hey, "mancave", right ?
18:54 asciilifeform or don't marry faceless broad
18:54 mircea_popescu why the fuck isn't it "cuntpit" i wanna know.
18:54 asciilifeform they don't build pits, only colonize ?
18:55 asciilifeform like cuckoo ?
18:58 mircea_popescu eh no they don't.
18:59 asciilifeform anyway the whole pit/cave system never quite made sense to me
19:01 asciilifeform woman is right here in the 'cave' with me. like tank crew, silently doing the right thing.
19:02 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ?
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19:02 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 23:47:00; deedbot-: [Qntra] Torrent Infrastructure Hindered as Demonii/YIFY/YTS Fall - http://qntra.net/2015/11/torrent-infrastructure-hindered-as-demoniiyifyyts-fall/
19:04 asciilifeform 'Update: The YTS.to domain was just signed over to the MPAA.'
19:05 asciilifeform https://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-can-access-popcorntime-services-vpn-court-rules-151104 << from same rag
19:05 assbot MPAA Can Access Popcorn Time Services & VPN, Court Rules - TorrentFreak ... ( http://bit.ly/1PhLP51 )
19:05 asciilifeform 'An interim injunction handed down by a judge in Canada has granted forensic experts under MPAA supervision access to hosting accounts and domains operated by Popcorn Time, including VPN.ht, its official VPN service. Nevertheless, VPN.ht remains defiant, insisting that its service exists outside Canada and has not been compromised.'
19:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform does she have children ?
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19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144600 @ 0.00054691 = 79.0832 BTC [+] {4}
19:12 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319425 << hey, i had one of those, too!
19:12 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 22:12:59; asciilifeform: incidentally, ben_vulpes ought to laugh while he can. my great-grandfather owned... a mill
19:13 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319423 << aha. lulziest thing in the world.
19:13 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 22:11:34; asciilifeform: phun phakt: it is, in effect, a criminal offense for a host of this particular type of parasite to become indigent
19:13 mircea_popescu considering the jailing costs more than the alimony.
19:14 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319590 << we vote 'no', recall
19:14 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 00:10:55; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform does she have children ?
19:14 mircea_popescu so in what sense is this woman a woman ?
19:14 mircea_popescu not in the sense herein contemplated.
19:18 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319450 << as asciilifeform's example illustrates, this is a funnel not a game. at the point X becomes reasonable, X also becomes untenable. this is how this works.
19:18 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 22:33:40; BingoBoingo: Moral of the story: At the point ben_vulpes feels compelled to hire louts to satisfy the empire of fee-fees he should burn the shop and move to Aztlan
19:18 mircea_popescu which is why the right time to leave is that time when leaving IS NOT YET REASONABLE.
19:18 mircea_popescu which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats.
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19:19 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> ... << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ? << No particular reason, just entering the loss of a few into the record
19:21 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319468 << factual indeed.
19:21 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 22:48:30; asciilifeform: late at night. The home of Thomas Drake, a senior executive at the NSA, was searched, his passport was cancelled and he lived under the threat of 35 years imprisonment for four years, prosecuted under the Espionage Act. He lost his job, his pension and spent everything he owned on his defense lawyer. Today he works at an Apple store in Maryland and has been able to establish that the only person, who
19:21 mircea_popescu but the cattle still wants to "i have no choices" and "what could i do" and so forth.
19:22 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319475 << no, you do not want them dead.
19:22 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 22:56:29; asciilifeform: an actual man would be optimizing for greatest number of blackshirts dead asap, rather than censoring papers prior to release
19:22 mircea_popescu greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn.
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19:22 mircea_popescu for YEARS.
19:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65594 @ 0.00054527 = 35.7664 BTC [-] {4}
19:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319491 << the common disease of the diseased is the disease.
19:24 assbot Logged on 07-11-2015 23:05:41; asciilifeform: believes in 'socialism with a human face' or whatever it is called here and now.
19:24 mircea_popescu heck, most soviet kids believed in "better soviet"
19:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64406 @ 0.00054511 = 35.1084 BTC [-] {3}
19:27 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
19:27 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 385.8, Best ask: 386.38, Bid-ask spread: 0.58000, Last trade: 385.81, 24 hour volume: 34655.48879914, 24 hour low: 371.32, 24 hour high: 392.23, 24 hour vwap: None
19:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103900 @ 0.000543 = 56.4177 BTC [-] {4}
19:33 trinque mircea_popescu │ incidentally : should we deedbot a version of the logs, in the manner of gpg source etc ? << certainly. does assbot perhaps dump what it has seen somewhere, kakobrekla? my logs would only go back so far.
19:35 kakobrekla currently i make log dumps on request
19:35 trinque also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
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19:38 BingoBoingo Retard Strong: https://i.sli.mg/ugyHG7.png
19:38 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1L3ATAb )
19:43 mircea_popescu kakobrekla plox to have a dump, ima vdiff it with my local logs, pack it and hash/sign
19:44 mircea_popescu trinque prolly where it's going to end up eventually. not sure atm if the extra iron doors needed
19:46 kakobrekla one fat txt file ?
19:49 mircea_popescu works./
19:50 BingoBoingo http://legalnewsline.com/stories/510646458-amd-faces-suit-over-alleged-misrepresentation-of-new-cpu
19:50 assbot AMD faces suit over alleged misrepresentation of new CPU | Legal News Line ... ( http://bit.ly/20DwY8I )
19:50 mircea_popescu "amd faces abyss over there being no country for independent cpu"
19:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26050 @ 0.00054249 = 14.1319 BTC [-]
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19:57 asciilifeform intel hyperthreading lawsuit when.
19:58 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 << this will be a reasonably-mechanized thing with gossip
19:58 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
19:58 asciilifeform ('reasonably mechanized', note, does not mean 'fully automatic')
19:59 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319604 << usually i think 'drown like rat'
19:59 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 00:18:36; mircea_popescu: which is why you're all stuck there, and will burn like rats.
19:59 mircea_popescu rats swim.
19:59 asciilifeform ah yes.
20:02 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319611 << who wants to watch this porn? wouldn't this be a bit like turning'em into sausages ?
20:02 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 00:22:48; mircea_popescu: greatest number of blackshirts forced to act in animal / gay porn.
20:02 asciilifeform who wants to eat these sausages ?
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20:02 mircea_popescu here's a secret : most porn produced today is not actually made for anyone to watch.
20:02 mircea_popescu sort-of like books published.
20:02 asciilifeform and we need moar of this for something?
20:03 * mircea_popescu has genuinely seen this, "you got a cam, something ? i feel kinda weird going at it without anything"
20:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform we don't need it, they do
20:04 asciilifeform how's this work? picture a public beheading with... a studio audience ?!
20:04 trinque this guy can even overthink forcing the head of an agency to fuck a pig...
20:05 trinque some british show did this very thing with the prime minister, had me roaring with laughter
20:05 asciilifeform imho this could actually be a puzzle - how do you publicly humiliate a vanquished enemy when there is not a public ?
20:05 asciilifeform as in, an actually sentient one
20:06 trinque I dunno that it really matters who's watching you fuck the pig, just so long as you're not alone with your date
20:06 trinque no, I take that back. those that bested you watching is worse than the "public"
20:06 asciilifeform this might be an advanced matter of mircea_popescutronics that i am grossly unequipped to reason about.
20:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the point isn't that "hey, we killed this guy" / "oh, you got lucky / it was an accident / never happened".
20:07 mircea_popescu the point is "hey, listen to your guy squeal. you gonna do something ? hm ? next week ? next month ? your guy ? isn't this sad ? you gonna do anything ? can't do anything ? you suck this bad ? what will happen when it's your turn ? still nothing ?"
20:08 mircea_popescu that's why you don't kill the us president so the vp can take over.\
20:08 mircea_popescu you kidnap it and transexual operation.
20:08 mircea_popescu "this is the us president coming live from amateur night in thailand's top tranny spot!"
20:09 asciilifeform wake me up when.
20:09 mircea_popescu who the fuck cares about a guy. certainly not the other guys just like him.
20:10 mircea_popescu trinque tlp loved that show. iirc the next episode was the one with the forced bicycling.
20:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the when is besides the point, you were inquiring as to the theoretical underpinnings.
20:12 mircea_popescu violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative.
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20:12 mircea_popescu trinque generally, the victors have better things to do. the defeated is only important in his own system, to himself. that's how he got fucked in the first place, after all.
20:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113119 @ 0.00054854 = 62.0503 BTC [+] {7}
20:22 mircea_popescu anyway, the entire point of the "justice system" ie, imposition of a certain ideology over willing or unwilling objects, is not "you will get hurt" but "there is NOTHING you can do".
20:23 mircea_popescu also why it's never a stable solution, keps needing more and more. gotta have aml , because otherwise there IS something they can do and the whole charade collapses.
20:28 mircea_popescu kinda why the one thing the burgeois can't stand is being laughed at, to connect that old point.
20:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00055024 = 17.9928 BTC [+] {4}
20:37 mircea_popescu and from tlp :
20:37 mircea_popescu Of course the easy critique to make, and even this one Hess was not allowed to formulate, is that in this way The Economist conveys the impression that it has personal access to the levers of power, the way Us Weekly recasts publicists as "sources close to Kim Kardashian", shrinking the gap between the magazine and the sources and artificially widening the distance between Kardashian and us. She becomes more important
20:37 mircea_popescu and less accessible-- except through Us Weekly.
20:37 mircea_popescu But this critique is backwards, it assumes the magazine is trying to trick its audience, this is wrong, the audience is using the magazine to trick itself. The audience wants this distance. It wants heroes, celebrities, people with power-- it wants an upper class-- and it wants them inaccessible. Envy? No, that's advertising, this is the "news." This is what happens when a whole generation's narcissism is threatened wi
20:37 mircea_popescu th injury-- since everything is possible, why aren't you enjoying everything?-- the personality structure becomes overwhelmingly defensive. "If I were Kim Kardashian, then I would be able to do X!" is NOT envy, flip it over and read the redacted obverse: "Only Kim Kardsahians can do X -- therefore it's not my fault that I can't!"
20:38 mircea_popescu ha-HA!
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21:56 deedbot- [Qntra] Theymos Threatens Coinbase's Social Media Privileges - http://qntra.net/2015/11/theymos-threatens-coinbases-social-media-privileges/
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22:32 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319668 << successful extermination is more educative still
22:32 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 01:12:01; mircea_popescu: violence per se is uneducative, there's all sorts of psychic defences available to the cow. however, once violence is unrecourse-able, it DOES become educative.
22:33 asciilifeform in the words of mr mold, 'death is quicker, cheaper, simpler, and more persuasive than persuasion'
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22:55 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319623 diff'ing logs would take some work. (think of all the netsplits, slightly different timestamps, lines slightly out of order, etc)
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22:55 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 00:35:56; trinque: also occurs to me that log dumps could be managed in V with those in L1 adding their seal if they find no significant difference with their own logs
22:56 trinque yep, I think asciilifeform has it, that it'd be something to build around gossipd
22:56 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319645 << dogs will eat teh sausage, and might even stay to watch the porn
22:56 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 01:02:25; asciilifeform: who wants to eat these sausages ?
22:57 asciilifeform damnatio ad bestias (tm) (r)
23:00 punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319584 << you don't, but it was a nice tree
23:00 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 00:02:16; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2015#1319556 << why would you expect a forest fire to spare one particular tree ?
23:01 punkman enjoyed the quality while it lasted, if only they did more old movies
23:02 asciilifeform warez outside of wot makes approximately the same amount of sense as every other wotless wild thing.
23:03 asciilifeform (yet the umpteenth reason why gossipd is a weapon of the apocalypse)
23:03 punkman well I don't know anyone that scans books or rips movies
23:03 asciilifeform sure you do
23:03 * asciilifeform scans bookz
23:04 * asciilifeform would scan yet moar bookz if he had with whom to trade
23:04 asciilifeform see, warez traditionally works as a trade thing
23:06 punkman and how do you trade bookz with a lot of people? you go to bookzz dot org
23:06 asciilifeform mno.
23:06 punkman (actually a thing if anyone's not familiar with it)
23:06 asciilifeform that's 'silk road' thinking.
23:12 asciilifeform http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-last-untouchable-in-europe-878705.html << vintage historic curio.
23:12 assbot The last untouchable in Europe | Europe | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXzOOX )
23:18 punkman other than wot-produced warez, would sure be nice to trade lists of signatures on warez
23:28 punkman http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/fashion/gofundme-gone-wild.html
23:28 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm3iWY )
23:30 asciilifeform 'Another woman was asking for help with the legal bills for her divorce, as her new husband had bolted to Israel. She was a little dramatic in her plea: “My life — the innocent, carefree life which I had known, and the blissful happy life of hopes and dreams shattered overnight. Instead of partaking of gourmet meals and donning my kalla/bridal trousseau, chaos and turmoil, sprinkled with vicious gossip became my daily food
23:30 asciilifeform and clothing.”'
23:30 asciilifeform win.
23:31 asciilifeform y'know, i used to think that it would be at least a little tricky to find initial feedstock for the biodiesel boilers
23:31 asciilifeform but it turns out, there's a ready list !
23:31 punkman many
23:31 asciilifeform 'never would be missed!' (tm) (r) (mikado)
23:37 punkman http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this."
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23:37 assbot Amazon and eBay 'liable' if they ignore VAT fraud - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1NXACn0 )
23:43 BingoBoingo "I'm sorry but no. It is OK for me to admit where I come from. But if people knew about my children's background, it might be difficult for them." << That cognitive dissonance
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23:55 asciilifeform http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/08/style/transgender-restroom-all-gender.html << moar lulz
23:55 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm5RZi )
23:57 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-11-2015#1319722 << while in usa they are commanded to police income tax
23:57 assbot Logged on 08-11-2015 04:37:56; punkman: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34650014 "This principle means that someone like Amazon, someone like eBay can be de facto tax inspectors. Legally they are obliged to police this."
23:57 asciilifeform (i.e. reporting any user who nets, iirc, > 600 usd/yr)
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