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03:24 mp_en_viaje i sadly forgot to link http://qntra.net/2018/03/europol-arrests-unnamed-man-for-politely-persuading-eurobanks-to-part-with-cash/ in the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-14#1922441 discussion. should have had.
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03:24 a111 Logged on 2019-07-14 15:17 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, in other lulz, nicole dredged up local blondy ex-mech engineer turned java developer (sorry mocky, chick never heard of you). she intends to start her out outsourcing comp (because hates working with idiots ; yet if challenged "what you gonna do when rich ?" she wants to come up with some garbage sorting solution, because idiots do ~nothing but produce garbage and she doesn't understand the beheadingof
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04:17 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-another-man-gets-harassed-at-an-airport-this-time-on-purpose-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Another Man Gets Harassed At An Airport, This Time On Purpose. Adnotated.
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06:42 feedbot http://bimbo.club/2019/07/bear/ << Bimbo.Club -- Bear
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07:33 mp_en_viaje this adnotating shit is fucking addictive.
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07:49 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-another-round-of-the-ultimatum-game-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Another Round Of The Ultimatum Game. Adnotated.
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14:24 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-23#1924373 <<I'd forgetten that gem was in the archive
14:24 a111 Logged on 2019-07-23 07:24 mp_en_viaje: i sadly forgot to link http://qntra.net/2018/03/europol-arrests-unnamed-man-for-politely-persuading-eurobanks-to-part-with-cash/ in the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-14#1922441 discussion. should have had.
14:37 * BingoBoingo got struck with what appears to be gastroenteritis around 5am. IIRC this is the first time in Uruguay despite the shits being the joke folks back in old country tell themselves in order to not have to write themselves the "go south" option.
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14:55 diana_coman take care of yourself BingoBoingo
14:57 mp_en_viaje yeah, drink some cvas
14:57 mp_en_viaje or something
14:57 BingoBoingo diana_coman: I've had worse back in old country.
14:59 * BingoBoingo suspects mp_en_viaje experienced worse GI upset that time he ate a slim jim
15:00 mp_en_viaje wait, when was this ?
15:01 BingoBoingo mp_en_viaje: At some point you reported consuming a US-type preserved "meat" product, iirc within the last year
15:02 mp_en_viaje hmmm
15:02 mp_en_viaje blessfully forgot
15:13 BingoBoingo AH, found it http://trilema.com/2018/jap-deva/ almost a year ago
15:18 BingoBoingo Anyways, bananas, yogurt, third world infant rehydration satches, and bleach for all the fomites that tolerate bleach. "alcohol rectificado ANCAP" for the fomites that don't.
15:25 mp_en_viaje hey, who was the "professor" of "economics", chakashakamaka indian dude ?
15:25 mp_en_viaje Chowdhry there we go
15:28 BingoBoingo AHA http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-06#1318943
15:28 a111 Logged on 2015-11-06 22:32 adlai: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bhagwan-chowdry/i-shall-happily-accept-th_b_8462028.html "Satoshi Nakamoto already is in possession of several hundred million U.S. dollars worth of bitcoins so the additional prize money may not mean much to him. Only if he wants, the committee could also transfer the prize money to my bitcoin address, 165sAHBpLHujHbHx2zSjC898oXEz25Awtj. Mr Nakamoto and I will settle
15:29 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-15#1324543
15:29 a111 Logged on 2015-11-15 01:04 mircea_popescu: Professor Chowdhry has recently proposed Financial Access at Birth (FAB) initiative in which every child born in the world is given an initial deposit of $100 in an online bank account to guarantee that everyone in the world will have access to financial services in a few decades.You can read about the initiative by clicking here..
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16:05 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-another-school-shooting-sort-of-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Another School Shooting -- Sort Of? Adnotated.
16:14 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'revenge of montesuma' ?
16:15 mp_en_viaje after a year ?!
16:15 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I suspect I took the morcillas off the parrilita too soon.
16:15 * BingoBoingo has been drinking the tap water here the whole time
16:15 asciilifeform even 2y neh
16:16 mp_en_viaje speaking of, /me bought a bottle of this very nice ginger cvas to take home one day, from this pretty cool stolle place, they make their own pies
16:17 mp_en_viaje then next time, bought 3. discovered accidentally it'll ferment itself into perfection if left out for day
16:17 mp_en_viaje so earlier today, bought ... 7 bottles. YAY
16:17 BingoBoingo Nice
16:18 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-a-not-very-happy-observation-about-being-a-woman-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - A not very happy observation about +/- being a woman. Adnotated.
16:32 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-antispychotics-and-lawyers-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thel....com - Antispychotics and Lawyers. Adnotated.
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17:00 BingoBoingo Nice
17:03 mp_en_viaje lol
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17:45 BingoBoingo "Yo confío mucho más en los finlandeses que en nosotros. No van a poner bosta arriba de la mesa donde comen, porque tienen mucho para ganar. Si fueran unos capitalistas chantas de corto vuelo, buscan hacer unos mangos y dejan el agujero. Estos trabajan con un sentido de largo plazo", aseguró Mujica. << https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Mujica-celebro-instalacion-de-UPM2--Confio-mas-en-los-finlandeses-que-en-nosotros--uc725005
~ 1 hours 3 minutes ~
18:49 Mocky !!invoice BingoBoingo 0.052 Buy order # 1050: 500 WFF
18:49 deedbot Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/RzQOT/?raw=true
18:49 Mocky !!v 2CD327B20B024A61684F9BBBDCF79D601E8B9E7429655D62E8405443D648A704
18:50 deedbot Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.052 << Buy order # 1050: 500 WFF
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20:04 asciilifeform meanwhile, in measurements : performance of http://www.loper-os.org/?p=3420 system : as measured by a) 'bogomips' (linus's benchmark) : 93.4 times slower than host cpu; b) 'dhrystone' (traditional integer benchmark) : 300.98 times slower than host cpu.
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20:07 asciilifeform most of the 'ding' is in the tlb lookup .
20:08 asciilifeform (actual iron does it in O(1), emulated -- naturally in O(N), where N is up to all 16 entries in tlb table)
20:10 asciilifeform i.e. sitting on 3GHz 'opteron', a 'm' session is approx on part with 486dx, in re ops/sec.
20:11 asciilifeform can prolly be improved somewhat, via cycle-shaving, but not by order of magnitude.
20:11 asciilifeform i'ma let BingoBoingo think re whether it makes sense to offer shared hosting on a thing like that. (or whether folx will simply die of laughter)
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20:19 * asciilifeform predicted initially that cost would be ~40x vs host, based on avg. # of x86 instrs. taken per simulated instr.
20:20 asciilifeform apparently pipeline blow is substantial factor here.
20:23 asciilifeform seems like ~this~ is the actual (vs. 'i-can't-believe-it's-not-butter' vmware et al) cost of 100% process isolation on pc.
20:24 asciilifeform afaik this is the 1st attempt to measure it, too ( i.e. with max sweat over cycles, 0 c in proggy, 0 libs, etc sim. )
20:27 asciilifeform i/o, however, is only ~4x slower than host's, so in fact one ~could~ run e.g. trb on it.
20:28 asciilifeform (~why~ is diff q.)
20:36 asciilifeform to be pedantically exact : 66.35 'bogomips' (on 3GHz opteron) , and published table gives e.g. 'Pentium/166 66.36'. i was unable to find similar table of classics for 'dhrystone' .
20:37 asciilifeform ( if anyone finds -- plox to write in. )
20:40 asciilifeform 'Dhrystones per Second: 28112.8' on same.
20:41 asciilifeform ^ figure on properly unloaded box, vs. earlier; ~= 252.3x slower than host on same benchm.
20:56 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-19#1923606 << This is a neat-o vpatch 'who gave', but it came in just after the 'NO NEW WORK IN SHA PLOX'; so there are a few like this that probably will go into TRB main Vtree once the Lordship reviews/audits the proposed Keccak TRB Vtree; perhaps possibly after TRB has a new home OS/environment.
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20:56 a111 Logged on 2019-07-19 13:58 asciilifeform: revisiting upstack : hey mod6 , did 'who-gave' ever make it into flagship vtree ? ( i dun see it there ... )
20:57 * asciilifeform updated the orig. 'm' article re subj.
20:57 asciilifeform wb mod6
20:58 mod6 (My apologies for the delayed response). Anyway, long story short, we're in a bit of a holding pattern on new vpatches atm.
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20:58 mod6 thanks asciilifeform! Just trying to catch up on logs/blogs atm. Been behind all month!
21:03 mod6 In light of recent conversations re: v (large genesis), ebuilds; this needs some review still.
21:03 a111 Logged on 2019-07-08 04:01 mp_en_viaje: meanwhile speaking of http://bvt-trace.net/2019/07/vdiff-vpatch-blockwise-keccaking/#footnote_0_42 would someone look at that ?
21:06 mod6 In a few days, once I'm caught back up, if still no one has tested this, I'll give it a try.
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21:22 asciilifeform mod6: i was gonna genesis a kernel for that thing, but nao after sad benchmark thinkin', it's of ~0 use outside of very specialized applications
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21:22 a111 Logged on 2019-06-04 00:51 asciilifeform: incidentally, i generate these by machine, and it takes about 3sec per. would have put it as a net-connected hopper thing aeons ago, BUT it of course uses a heathen render (there are no 'demonstrably electrically correct' pdf eaters, and i dun expect one to exist) and suffers from the obvious problem
21:22 a111 Logged on 2019-07-18 05:03 asciilifeform: at some pt somebody's gonna have to audit a snapshot of bin gnat. which wouldja rather ?
21:24 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje, i predict, will cackle, say, 'toldja, dummkopf'
21:25 mod6 yeah, oof. I saw your post re-'M', will try to read through here soon. I did see your benchmark comments above tho.
21:25 asciilifeform mod6: you can safely skip it, it's a ~null result
21:26 mod6 asciilifeform: ok, cheers.
21:26 asciilifeform conceivably there is a use for e.g. cuntoo that loads from memory snapshot in <3sec but runs 'like pentium 166'
21:27 asciilifeform but prolly not in piz
21:27 mod6 Seems hard to imagine, ya.
21:30 mod6 BingoBoingo: hope you feel better soon!
21:33 asciilifeform to round off that thread -- asciilifeform strongly suspects that kernel would run 100-200x faster on the 10 $ 'ice40' than on opteron-cum-'M'
21:37 asciilifeform ( for that matter -- if e.g. mp_en_viaje one day bakes actual silicon cpu , would run on par with pc, with unchanged soft. )
21:44 * asciilifeform might even be wrong, and it is conceivable that 'dhrystone of pentium166 but i/o of opteron' actually suffices to e.g. host blogs.
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21:45 asciilifeform esp. w/ trimmed userland.
21:46 * asciilifeform off to wipe sad chalkboard , and then meat.
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