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00:00 mircea_popescu doesn't it get depressing like the fucking sahara ?
00:00 asciilifeform depressing?
00:00 mircea_popescu yes.
00:00 asciilifeform (and we have plenty of orc of whatever kind.)
00:00 decimation most normal folk just avert their eyes and speed through on their commutes
00:00 BingoBoingo Oh, no, it gets entertaining. More so than saturday's boxing screwjob.
00:00 mircea_popescu such idiocy.
00:00 * asciilifeform for example lives in 90+% south american street
00:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108650 @ 0.00022071 = 23.9801 BTC [+]
00:00 decimation northeast dc is now nearly all salvadoran/guatamalan
00:01 asciilifeform what kind of orc does mircea_popescu lack in b-a ?
00:02 asciilifeform the kind that sets fire to grocer because his usg-sponsored lunch skipped a day?
00:02 mircea_popescu The professional gun-armed black criminals were staging home invasions, drug stash-house raids, and stealthy break-ins of high value targets under cover of darkness <
00:02 asciilifeform or the kind that lights parked cars on fire ?
00:02 asciilifeform no robbers in b-a ?
00:02 mircea_popescu no COMPETENT ones.
00:03 * BingoBoingo seeing baltimore riot tape first thought black mardi gras
00:03 asciilifeform competent robbers go where there is something to steal ?
00:03 asciilifeform what ought they to steal in b-a ? the icecream ?
00:03 mircea_popescu even the fucking italians are more like a hand puppet, hanging around with their retarded blazers
00:04 mircea_popescu nobody popping a cap in their fat ass because a) it's not fat anymore, and b) the guns are all chocolate.
00:04 BingoBoingo !b 2
00:04 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3K6BXWC.txt )
00:04 asciilifeform ^ except for that rusty old luger at the flea market, l0l
00:04 mircea_popescu asciilifeform how would you feel if you had to live in a place where nobody used words longer than 4 letters ?
00:04 asciilifeform i sorta live there now.
00:05 asciilifeform my 5+ letters come in over the fiber.
00:05 asciilifeform everywhere else <=4.
00:05 mircea_popescu well, i feel the same way. retards everywhere.
00:05 mircea_popescu if i had a pick of 2-30 men from my youth, i could take over this country in six months. make any random whore of your choosing president.
00:05 BingoBoingo So lol US orcs vs. ents http://forums.bullnettlenews.com/26-wildlife-habitat/47873-help-killing-kudzu-smallish-pines-2.html
00:05 assbot Help killing kudzu in smallish pines - Page 2 - Mississippi Hunting and Fishing Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1FODUXh )
00:05 * asciilifeform recalls reading tales of daring heists and bloody shootouts from ar '01-03 default years
00:05 mircea_popescu but there aren't 30. nor 20. nor 2. in fact, there hasn't been one in decades.
00:06 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the reports were exagerated.
00:06 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ... there hasn't been one in decades << all dead ?
00:06 mircea_popescu no, all stupid.
00:07 mircea_popescu here's a deep dark secret : the us would produce fine young men too, even white ones, if their IDIOTIC MOTHERS were beaten more often,
00:07 mircea_popescu and the grandmothers kept in the outhouse.
00:07 mircea_popescu argentina, much more than the us, is an old-woman-oriented society.
00:07 mircea_popescu it's disgusting.
00:08 asciilifeform the (not argentinian but pertinent) garcia marquez painted a very frightening picture of this, in his tales
00:08 mircea_popescu it's the case. the jews have it ridiculously bad but not this bad. the arabs have it almost as bad, but not nearly.
00:08 mircea_popescu this country is maybe the casebook study on "what happens if you don't beat the women".
00:09 mircea_popescu yes, the icecream is excellent. meanwhile i'm hatching a major depression.
00:09 asciilifeform perhaps ar could benefit from a steamer full of arabs et al
00:09 decimation this guy could have predicted (baltimore) http://unamusementpark.com/2011/07/blacks-ruin-fourth-of-july-in-baltimore-media-censor-race/
00:09 assbot Unamusement Park » Blog Archive » Blacks ruin Fourth of July in Baltimore; media censor race ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOEg0j )
00:09 mircea_popescu if i cared more i'd try to import ukraina here.
00:09 asciilifeform decimation: is that the bloke who was beaten to death in a za police clink ?
00:09 BingoBoingo decimation: Also describes "Taste of Chicago"
00:10 decimation asciilifeform: hadn't heard of that
00:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: import ukraina l0l
00:10 asciilifeform which half
00:10 mircea_popescu i don't care. but the women preferably.
00:10 mircea_popescu This kind of elevation of young men normally only occurs on battlefields or on sports teams—not in sissy, civilized, shop keeping society. The leaders and academics of our sick corrupt society have labored for nearly two centuries to emasculate our young men from the cradle to the grave.
00:10 mircea_popescu I now observe, through what of my primal man’s eye I have been able to salvage from this systematic assault on my humanity, that all it takes is a few urban savages to rip the mask away from the slave mistress that owns us to expose her for the impotent squabbling bitch that she is, and open the door for men to be men once again, as the lie that encases our souls crumbles to dust with every fumbling falsehood that fa
00:10 mircea_popescu lls flat beneath the reality of naked force. The hooting black heathens that have hunted me in the streets of Baltimore for over 30 years might be my enemies, but they at least acknowledge my manhood as they probe for my every weakness, and have struck a resounding blow against the slave mistress society that seeks with its every apparatus to render me weak to the point of meek.
00:10 mircea_popescu speaking of which!
00:10 mircea_popescu check this out, this dude gets shit.
00:11 asciilifeform eh reads like 'mansphere' sop.
00:11 asciilifeform i have (had?) bookmark pit with 1,001 of these.
00:11 mircea_popescu well he's a mfa/boxer coach, whadda ya want.
00:11 decimation yeah, but my point from above: why bother trying to 'save' baltimore? move to bismark?
00:11 mircea_popescu decimation either love or hatred.
00:12 mircea_popescu from experience, hatred is usually more effectual.
00:12 BingoBoingo decimation: The weather
00:12 mircea_popescu http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2341&pr=0 << check it out.
00:12 assbot JL: The Four Types of Women ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpG66E )
00:12 mircea_popescu dja folks have ANY IDEA how rare it is for me to be able to read like three paragraphs into something on the web without throwing a fit ?
00:12 mircea_popescu thinking about it you prolly do.
00:13 decimation apparently the lightly braindamaged pugilist from baltimore charms you :)
00:13 mircea_popescu "A facet of the slave girl is her inability to acquire wisdom and enlightenment when not in a post orgasmic state. " << bs.
00:13 mircea_popescu he just doesn't know how to connect.
00:13 mircea_popescu decimation i am charmed.
00:14 decimation BingoBoingo: I think asciilifeform can attest that the weather in maryland is shit
00:14 * BingoBoingo still pissed over saturday's fight. Mayweather spent the whole time retreating.
00:14 decimation freezing wet winters, hot as balls in summer
00:14 asciilifeform decimation: and the nearer to d.c. swamp, the more so, yes
00:15 asciilifeform if i had to design a climate for penal colony planet, i'd base it on this.
00:15 BingoBoingo decimation: Weather being shit is a universal part of USian living, just varies regionally
00:15 decimation ^ one 'stealth' reason for silicon valley's 'success'
00:15 * BingoBoingo researching "tropical" places cooler and less humid in peak summer than stl region
00:15 mircea_popescu i don't think anyone missed the memo on why california has been attractive since cca 1849
00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 328600 @ 0.00022331 = 73.3797 BTC [+] {3}
00:16 asciilifeform the only thing missing in this penal colony are those giant wasps that can sautee a man full of eggs in minutes
00:16 asciilifeform or perhaps even these, we have somewhere.
00:16 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: California always attractive because mediteranian climate substitute and mountain runoff water
00:16 mircea_popescu yup
00:16 decimation http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2012/07/deadly-asian-giant-hornet-spotted-in-arlington-heights-not-cicada-killer-wasp/
00:16 assbot Deadly Asian Giant Hornet Spotted in Arlington Heights, Illinois: Not Cicada Killer Wasp | The Cardinal ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOEQLv )
00:16 asciilifeform it is attractive, properly speaking, in contrast to -the rest of usa-
00:17 mircea_popescu sort of like a slightly more retarded liguria,
00:17 mircea_popescu but bigger.
00:17 * asciilifeform has definitely met this wasp
00:17 mircea_popescu (for the record, liguria was never prime european real estate. home to 3rd best venice)
00:17 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm telling you Illinois has been perfect this year wasp wise so far now that I got my bee posse together
00:19 * BingoBoingo might be interested in these giant hornets
00:20 BingoBoingo though the carpenter bees seem to handle yellowjackets admirably
00:21 mircea_popescu left the dude a comment. curious if he shows up.
00:21 decimation I thought carpenter bees just drilled holes in various wood pieces
00:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'm still puzzled as to how importing female ua would replenish the missing supply of (somehow) necessary orcs
00:22 * asciilifeform was also under the impression that mircea_popescu already flies in females as necessary for terraforming martian colony
00:22 BingoBoingo decimation: They mostly do. They also love the columbine in the front garden, will love the Hollyhock later in the year.
00:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform why ?
00:23 BingoBoingo decimation: Capenter bees here in the past decade went the miraculous transformation from pest to desirable
00:24 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: why ? << same reason flew in pogotrons - local supplies did not cut it
00:24 * asciilifeform conjectured.
00:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nono, i mean, why do you not see ua etc.
00:24 mircea_popescu as to fly in, i have better shit to do with my girls than lift argentina from the shithole. maybe if i cared more, or maybe if it pissed me off more. but as it is... whatever.
00:25 asciilifeform because was under the impression that mircea_popescu lacked for desperadoes, good shootouts, etc. in b-a rather than gurlz
00:25 mircea_popescu even the owner of a cleaning company does not order the forest cleanned randomly.
00:25 mircea_popescu girls make excellent desperadoes.
00:25 mircea_popescu boys are usually 2nd rate.
00:27 asciilifeform mircea_popescu might consider sharing his martian tech with rest of planet 3
00:27 BingoBoingo For reference growing up these were primarily and exclusively the wasp genera of concern http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_dauber
00:27 assbot Mud dauber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOFMPZ )
00:27 asciilifeform perhaps then girls will also make best os demungers, cosmonauts, etc
00:27 asciilifeform but basic point stands - cleaner does not clean the forest. not unless the badgers, mushrooms, snakes - pay.
00:28 asciilifeform cash on barrelhead.
00:28 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122307 <<< always bet on black :P
00:28 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 04:14:32; *: BingoBoingo still pissed over saturday's fight. Mayweather spent the whole time retreating.
00:28 * asciilifeform bets on red
00:29 BingoBoingo cazalla: I always try to play chess as black, why should I oppress myself by favoring that colour further
00:29 decimation BingoBoingo: what's wrong with mud dauber wasps?
00:29 BingoBoingo decimation: The sting
00:30 decimation generally my experience is that wasps leave you alone if you leave them alone. hornets, not so much
00:31 BingoBoingo decimation: I've been stung by honeybees many times without atypical problems but never been stung by a mud dauber without needing some limited necrosis debrided later
00:31 cazalla asciilifeform, red? communism lingers that bad eh?
00:31 cazalla or was that the joke..
00:31 decimation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantula_hawk#/media/File:Wasp_with_Orange-kneed_tarantula.JPG < supposedly the most painful sting in the us
00:32 assbot Tarantula hawk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1FOGgWi )
00:32 asciilifeform cazalla: was to be a complicated l0l re: 'red' indians
00:32 asciilifeform who will rise again, or the like.
00:32 BingoBoingo wasp/hornet is a hard distinction to make in north America. Most things we'd refer to in NA as hornets look more like European wasps than North American wasps
00:32 decimation if you are wondering the southwest and find a gigantic blue wasp dragging around a freshly-paralyzed tarantula, leave it alone
00:33 decimation ^would put in penal planet
00:34 BingoBoingo <decimation> if you are wondering the southwest and find a gigantic blue wasp dragging around a freshly-paralyzed tarantula, leave it alone << Fuck. No tarantulas here, but that coloration is new this year among some of the assorted wasps I've ignored as variations on the paper wasps. Will have nore concern for
00:34 asciilifeform giant wasps always bring me brain back to an ancient sf tome from childhood, where a couplea blokes submitted to do a prison planet term -in advance-
00:35 asciilifeform (idea was that scarcely anyone survived, and so would-be miscreants were tempted with reduced terms with proviso that if they return, they get to kill somebody)
00:35 decimation asciilifeform: as in they 'gain citizenship' or whatever?
00:36 asciilifeform they get sentenced to time served.
00:36 BingoBoingo decimation: I can't certainly recall and exact match on the body color in those photos, but those wings... I sprayed one with glyphosate clearing a ditch
00:37 asciilifeform BingoBoingo is professional gardener now ?!
00:37 decimation BingoBoingo: apparently they do range up to washington state
00:38 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not professionally. Last couple years I mowed lawns for cash. This year branching out. Gardens are more paper for less long term commitment.
00:38 BingoBoingo decimation: In southern Illinois
00:41 BingoBoingo This part of Illinois though tends to have sightings of all kinds of animals the USDA supposes could never naturalize here (armadillos, carious reptiles and amphibians)
00:43 BingoBoingo *various
00:43 * BingoBoingo bets on green
00:45 * BingoBoingo would also not doubt that some sort of climate shift is happening in north america, but doubts atmospheric carbon as the case when compared to local change in Albedo wrought by soy
00:46 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Gardening surprisingly easy. Mostly you abort the unwanted allowing conditions favorable to the desirables
00:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124445 @ 0.00021821 = 27.1551 BTC [-] {2}
00:50 BingoBoingo cazalla: I seriously though wonder how a person could win a competition in a combat sport while retreating as often as Mayweather did
00:55 * BingoBoingo wonders how one can inspire призывник with such cowardice
00:58 cazalla BingoBoingo, pays well either way
01:02 BingoBoingo cazalla: Maybe? I remember though when boxing payperviews mean ears being bitten and brain damage occuring. Mayweather's style of retreating and punching pacman in the kidneys during midfight hugs was... different and probably deviant
01:08 cazalla BingoBoingo, well they don't get coked up for fights like tyson did for his so this is the resultl
01:08 BingoBoingo cazalla: No, this is a serious decline in American national character.
01:09 BingoBoingo The fucking welterweight champion is known more for "defense" than leaving welts?
01:10 cazalla they were charging $60 AUD for that fight.. almost $50 USD
01:14 cazalla anyway pacman got some good punches in which isn't bad considering he fought against a turtle
01:20 BingoBoingo Here it was $100 US
01:20 BingoBoingo And fucking Justin Beiber was part of Mayweather's posse walking out
01:23 cazalla heh, i saw that
01:27 cazalla just to restate.. http://agar.io/ is the shit.. this is like a better ver of mike_c's WoL, would be fun to place a wager and winner takes all in 5 or 10m rounds
01:27 assbot Agar.io ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ifj05s )
01:28 cazalla steam ver otw too http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=436491794
01:28 assbot Steam Greenlight :: Agar.io ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ifj5WO )
01:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> perhaps then girls will also make best os demungers << nah
01:35 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> This year branching out. Gardens are more paper for less long term commitment. << basically bingo's become a mexican.
01:36 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Gotta learn a better language some way
01:36 mircea_popescu but from the plants ?!
01:37 mircea_popescu and re marywether dude, isn't he like 52 ?
01:39 BingoBoingo mayweather is like 40
01:39 BingoBoingo Nah, you learn the language from the dudes who sell the plants
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02:58 cazalla http://googleblog.blogspot.com.au/2015/05/doing-more-on-diversity.html
02:58 assbot Official Google Blog: Doing more on diversity ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpTtnr )
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03:15 mircea_popescu cazalla somehow that shit manages to be pretty offensive.
03:16 mircea_popescu "Hire diverse Googlers: In the past, our university-focused hiring programs have relied heavily on a relatively small number of schools. But, we know those schools aren't always the most diverse. For example, while 14% of Hispanic college enrollment is at 4-year schools, Hispanics make up just 7% at the 200 most selective schools. In the past two years, we've doubled the number of schools where we recruit, to promote s
03:16 mircea_popescu tudent diversity."
03:16 mircea_popescu fuck you, be good instead. who the fuck cares how "diverse" good is.
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03:31 cazalla you'd think they'd want the best man or woman for the job as it relates to their skills
03:33 cazalla reminds me of another article i read yesterday.. some chick will graduate fireman school despite failing because that's who you want to turn up in case of a fire.. someone unable to put it out
03:33 cazalla http://nypost.com/2015/05/03/woman-to-become-ny-firefighter-despite-failing-crucial-fitness-test/
03:33 assbot Woman to become NY firefighter despite failing crucial fitness test | New York Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLMMw1 )
03:34 cazalla next you'll have firemen in mobility scooters.. BYO fire truck
03:41 mircea_popescu maybe she only goes to fires with no grades.
03:41 mats http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/05/05/lawyers-threaten-researcher-over-key-cloning-bug-in-high-security-lock
03:41 assbot Lawyers threaten researcher over key-cloning bug in high-security lock | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1GYBcxf )
03:42 mircea_popescu yeah, that'll fix it
03:45 mats can find these vulns with an ubertooth which is apparently sophisticated lab equipment that the public can't buy nao
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03:49 mircea_popescu the problem with systems that don't have anyone in charge is that this sort of nonsense flourishes.
04:03 mircea_popescu MMA is the place where all of those bodies are landing. It might not be boxing, but boxing is there. And the grappling and kicking coaches want your help. Believe me, comparing notes with a ground fighter in 2013 is far better than arguing with the wannabe martial arts movie stars of the 1970s about their bizarre array of secret animal punches and their ability to levitate out of your way as they stole your life force
04:03 mircea_popescu and used it to cheat gravity.
04:03 mircea_popescu When I was the same age as the MMA athletes you are training all we had was silk-lined fantasy. Now there is a real sweaty reality in a cage near you, and you just might be able to help some hard working young wrestler who actually knows how to make weight, box, if only in spots. Even so, it’s still boxing, and it’s a fact, that most of the hands being taped today are being taped cage-side. You might-as-well wield
04:03 mircea_popescu the scissors.
04:03 mircea_popescu ah this guy.
04:03 mircea_popescu but yeah, boxing is pretty much dead. sorry BingoBoingo
04:08 mircea_popescu http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2344&pr=1 <<< ahahaha what the shit
04:08 assbot JL: Emerald Eyes ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPAupK )
04:08 mircea_popescu the man got a purple belt in prose.
04:22 mircea_popescu !up btcdrak
04:23 btcdrak thank you. I just found this channel by following some links in the blocksize discussion on reddit.
04:24 mircea_popescu good for you.
04:25 btcdrak I would be super surprised if gavin's proposal gets through. seems like there is a lot of opposition from coredevs thankfully.
04:25 mircea_popescu either way.
04:30 mircea_popescu "Note that every honest person in Baltimore believes these riots were the first of many, and that the media and government—attributing the riots to the death of Freddie Gray—think that throwing some cops under the proverbial city bus will assuage black rage, when in reality, every government initiative that has contributed to the racial hatred in Baltimore is still ongoing. There will be more riots in Baltimore, pe
04:30 mircea_popescu rhaps purely-for-profit raids on retailers based around Halloween, or school events. As with the recent riots the aims will be largely racial purging and plunder, not protest."
04:31 mircea_popescu he even has a testable hypothesis! exciting.
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04:36 mircea_popescu "The Baltimore riots were fueled by cohesive large scale mobs exiting their criminal training ground, where they are prepared for a lifetime of illiteracy and incarceration: Baltimore City Schools. These riots only reached virulent levels during the week. The media claims that the riots calmed down after Friday because of the police indictments, but this was not so. Friday was as hot as any day of the riots other than
04:36 mircea_popescu Monday. The first riots on the Saturday following the death of Freddie Gray were not a fraction of what came on Monday after his funeral. Recall that all parties predicted that the funeral would calm tensions, not considering that Freddie Gray’s death was just an excuse to vent long standing hatreds, and that proper mass riots could not be organized until high school was in session. When another weekend rolled around
04:36 mircea_popescu there was no longer an ability to marshal large ghetto forces, absent their high school breeding grounds. The media coverage was a complete lie and a hoax, the rioters have been excused, and the race-purging strike teams in outlying areas ignored or covered up. During the school year attend such events in Baltimore only on the weekend. If they have a Friday night event, do not go. As this event is in August, I predict
04:36 mircea_popescu there will be minimal problems."
04:36 mircea_popescu fascinating.
04:42 mircea_popescu Finally, if the event is held between the 1st [SSI distribution] and the 16th [last EBT distribution] the ghetto will be flush with government money. Any event held after the 20th will be likely to draw criminal predators, mostly teens ranging away from the nest to fill their mother’s requests, such as, “Baby, get me a new purse—a nice leather one like those white ladies carry.”
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05:01 mircea_popescu http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2135&pr=0 << prolly guy's best article.
05:01 assbot JL: ‘Is This the Best Time To be Alive?’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1IfKfgk )
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05:23 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1121907 <<< the original source doesn't mention crypto at all
05:23 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 01:12:02; williamdunne: "France Restricts the Movement of Gold, Cash, & Crypto-Currencies"
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07:07 jurov http://www.grindtv.com/wildlife/donald-trumps-hair-discovered-crawling-in-amazon/#WJH5EcblGeQxQ4jm.01
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07:30 jurov http://pypyjs.org/ python JITed into js my ass
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07:38 jurov http://motherboard.vice.com/read/why-do-we-play-video-games-that-simulate-work one day we will have games that simulate programming...oh wait
07:38 assbot Why Do We Play Video Games That Feel Like Work? | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1IfDauE )
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09:42 mats http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crude-rallies-again-with-price-of-wti-atop-61-2015-05-06
09:42 assbot Crude tops $62 for first time since December - MarketWatch ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZbuJ2 )
09:43 asciilifeform 218413.
09:43 asciilifeform 'why do we play games that similate work' << 'we' l0l
09:43 asciilifeform *simulate
09:45 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.techradar.com/us/news/computing-components/processors/the-end-of-an-era-as-chinese-company-mulls-plans-for-massive-amd-investment-1284519 << somehow i missed this one
09:45 assbot The end of an era as Chinese company mulls plans for massive AMD investment | TechRadar ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZbQ25 )
09:45 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:54 asciilifeform achtung, panzers!
09:54 asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000090.html
09:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZcSuZ )
09:55 asciilifeform [BTC-dev] Full Orphanage Thermonuke Massif Output (Theoretically, covers entire address space of process)
09:55 asciilifeform ^ ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al ^^^^^^
09:57 asciilifeform ^ on first sight, very perverse findings which appear to contradict those of ordinary 'valgrind'
10:10 asciilifeform ... or maybe not
10:10 asciilifeform takes some effort to read this correctly.
10:18 asciilifeform 'and the reason i believe they fought me so hard, and is a detail thats kind of hard to get through to reporters, is that the cylinders used an OTP memory, the issues cannot be fixed without a somewhat expensive exchange' -- from the locks article
10:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111003 @ 0.00022327 = 24.7836 BTC [-]
10:19 asciilifeform the imbeciles are phucked and their only recourse, as is now traditional, is to fud and lawyering
10:19 davout asciilifeform: am i correct in my understanding of the thermonuke patch that it will try to reverse-sync starting from any arbitrary block it receives?
10:19 davout or does it simply drop any block it receives and that doesn't chain on top of the current best?
10:21 asciilifeform davout: when gets a bastard block, it 1) drops 2) requests, from current sync node, blocks prior to it
10:21 asciilifeform recursive process.
10:21 davout ah ok, so it doesn't reverse-sync per se, but instead tries to get better matches
10:21 asciilifeform aha
10:22 asciilifeform what happens in the 'virginal' 0.5.3 is,
10:22 davout (it doesn't reverse-sync in the sense that it doesn't keep a partial tree it tries to reconnect to the currency known best tree)
10:22 asciilifeform 1) 500 blocks are pulled from sync node on cold boot
10:22 asciilifeform 2) after this, when bastard block comes in, the thing walks the orphanage and finds the start of the chain, and asks for its antecedents.
10:23 asciilifeform we don't have an orphanage any more
10:23 asciilifeform so our antecedent is always the most recent bastard.
10:23 asciilifeform if you can think of an algo which makes more sense than this, please write in
10:24 asciilifeform the current item was the simplest/most-kalashnikov
10:24 davout not sure i get "the thing walks the orphanage and finds the start of the chain"
10:25 asciilifeform davout: GetOrphanRoot
10:27 asciilifeform l0l, 4th google hit is my patch
10:27 asciilifeform (the 'orphanage burner' one)
10:27 asciilifeform as is the 5th
10:27 asciilifeform is this their ip-based diddling
10:27 asciilifeform or does anyone see same
10:28 asciilifeform 3rd is jurov's viewer...
10:28 asciilifeform http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/ident?_i=GetOrphanRoot
10:28 assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.1 identifier search: GetOrphanRoot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QmzKJs )
10:28 davout ah i see
10:28 davout so the original behaviour was to actually reverse-sync
10:29 lobbes or does anyone see same << heh, I see the same
10:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 423918 @ 0.00021853 = 92.6388 BTC [-] {3}
10:47 asciilifeform http://www.theverge.com/2015/4/6/8353549/edward-snowden-sculpture-fort-greene-park-brooklyn-new-york << l0ltr0nic
10:47 assbot A renegade sculptor has mounted a bust of Edward Snowden in a Brooklyn park | The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/1QmDniB )
10:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31879 @ 0.00021698 = 6.9171 BTC [-]
10:53 lobbes 'Parks Department officials were unable to remove the bust initially, but arrived at noon to cover it with a tarpaulin'
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11:13 davout danielpbarron: looking at your pogo docs, not sure how to perform step 4.1 u-boot compilation
11:13 danielpbarron you and me both :p
11:14 davout hehe
11:14 davout i've built the new kernel according to asciilifeform's instructions, including the v2 patches
11:14 mod6 <+asciilifeform> [BTC-dev] Full Orphanage Thermonuke Massif Output (Theoretically, covers entire address space of process) << great work, asciilifeform. thanks for putting that together :]
11:15 davout from what i understand i need to replace u-boot on the pogo so that it'll load this new kernel over the network by using tftp
11:15 davout perplexed at the u-boot step, how do i actually get to asciilifeform's "(you -did- configure the u-boot to tftp by default, aha?)" ?
11:16 danielpbarron it comes with its own uBoot, which can be configured to load a kernel over the network
11:16 mod6 I can't really check from here, but later tonight will give some updates as to how my v0.5.3.1+OrphanageBurner build is running. last I saw, it was using quite a bit of available ram. was >200`000 blocks, and still running, but that was lastnight.
11:16 mod6 (and yeah, that's on a deb6 - x86_64 env)
11:16 danielpbarron but it does not come with the tool needed to do this, which is fw_printenv
11:18 davout danielpbarron: oic
11:18 davout so i found this -> http://blog.qnology.com/2014/07/hacking-pogoplug-v4-series-4-and-mobile.html
11:18 assbot Qui's techNOLOGY Blog: Hacking the Pogoplug v4 (Series 4 and Mobile) with Linux (Debian or Arch) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Alx70K )
11:18 davout which is aimed at booting debian/alarm from an sdcard
11:19 mod6 oh cool, i guess my pogo will be delivered tomorrow
11:19 davout i assume i can use the steps relevant to u-boot from there to get the correct version on the pogo and resume your instructions when that's done
11:21 davout danielpbarron: but i'm slightly confused at this whole thing, say i manage to flash the new uboot on the pogo, and set the correct variables with the new fw_printenv command that comes with the improved u-boot, and that with the correct settings the pogo will look for a kernel on the network at boot time, what's netcat for?
11:26 davout aah, reading the instructions once again, it starts to make sense
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11:53 danielpbarron yeah netcat is not needed necessarily
11:53 danielpbarron i have a more condensed guide on the b-a wiki
11:54 danielpbarron http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/pogo
11:54 assbot pogo [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0CnDy )
11:55 davout danielpbarron: so looks like i managed to get the kernel loaded and starting
11:55 danielpbarron you used the qnology guide to get the uBoot thing working?
11:55 davout danielpbarron: looks like it hangs at "Starting kernel ...", is any output expected afterwards ?
11:55 davout http://dpaste.com/1D0E0EX.txt
11:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0CAqg )
11:55 davout yes, i got the u-boot working, see the output i get in netcat ^
11:56 danielpbarron netcat stops there, you shouldn't see anything else
11:56 davout ok good
11:56 davout the pogo seems to have a half green half red light
11:56 danielpbarron if you used ascii's thing, then it should have telnet built in
11:56 davout ah i see, i tried SSH'ing into it to no avail
11:57 davout yea, i used ascii's instructions and patches
11:57 danielpbarron he decided that since the thing has no RNG, ssh is a waste
11:57 davout aha, i'm the new pogo
11:57 davout which makes sense
11:57 davout ok that's really cool
11:58 davout so now i guess i just need to build the bitcoind release and put it on the pogo
11:58 danielpbarron you should be able to telnet in as root, password is probably also root or something
11:58 davout telnet without a username got me in as root
11:58 danielpbarron oh i think there is no password actuallly
11:58 danielpbarron yeah, it's as insecure as could be, because telnet shouldn't be enabled on the final product anyway
11:59 davout so now do i compile bitcoind right there? or should i somehow compile it on my local machine?
11:59 danielpbarron local machine for sure
11:59 danielpbarron it'll take forever on the pogo i think
11:59 assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 490 @ 0.0047648 = 2.3348 BTC [+] {3}
11:59 davout ok, where would i find directions to compile it properly for the pogo?
11:59 danielpbarron i was able to compile bitcoind for a pogo from my gentoo laptop using crossdev
12:00 davout did you document it?
12:00 danielpbarron but that was a some time ago
12:00 danielpbarron that one is running on ArchLinux
12:00 danielpbarron i don't have good documentation for that, no
12:01 davout and since you mention the final product, what would the target procedure look like to configure a new pogo?
12:01 danielpbarron i would guess something like flashing the memory with a ramdisk image that has all the kernel userland and bitcoind already in there
12:02 danielpbarron pre-configured to look for a sata drive to format and mount as the datadir for bitcoind
12:02 davout but from my understanding a stock pogo won't let you simply boot from an arbitrary usb stick
12:02 danielpbarron it'll boot from the eeprom
12:02 danielpbarron (it can also boot from sata drive)
12:02 davout like out of the box?
12:03 danielpbarron and you can boot from usb, it just has to be the USB2 port on the top of the unit
12:03 danielpbarron i'm not sure if it can boot from sata out of the box; it's uBoot should be able to do it, but i don't know if it would need to be reconfigured
12:03 davout ah, so ultimately the procedure would be "acquire pogo, burn image on USB stick, insert SATA drive, insert flashed USB stick, power unit on" right?
12:04 danielpbarron not even
12:04 danielpbarron although that might also be handy for making lots in one pass
12:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 392600 @ 0.00021549 = 84.6014 BTC [-] {3}
12:04 danielpbarron but you should be able to ssh into a new unit, download the image and flash it
12:05 davout i guess it really depends on whether we want to ship pre-configured units, or make an easy procedure available
12:05 danielpbarron defo the latter
12:05 danielpbarron maybe also the former
12:05 davout i see
12:06 danielpbarron the abiltity to audit the thing is one of the most important features
12:06 davout ok, i'm off for now, i'll get on cross-compiling bitcoind and getting it running on the pogo later
12:06 davout agreed
12:09 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122390 << 'times have changed' ?? nah. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSFQrPzSAnE
12:09 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 05:09:26; BingoBoingo: The fucking welterweight champion is known more for "defense" than leaving welts?
12:09 assbot Muhammad Ali Dodges 21 Punches In 10 Seconds: Hilariously Funny! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0EqHw )
12:10 pete_dushenski http://www.vrworld.com/2015/04/07/usa-shocks-intel-ban-on-china-xeon-supercomputers/
12:10 assbot Uncle Sam shocks Intel: Xeon Sales Ban for China Supercomputers ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0EBCN )
12:11 pete_dushenski williamdunne: kakobrekla any guess why assbot isn't picking up new post titles off of scoopbot_revived ??
12:13 ben_vulpes davout: there are buildroot scripts for the cross-compile on the mailing list
12:13 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1121956 << moar hearnesque willful ignorance.
12:13 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 01:33:41; thestringpuller: http://gavinandresen.ninja/does-more-transactions-necessarily-mean-more-centralized << pete_dushenski gaving must have not seen your comments on your blog from yester-month
12:14 pete_dushenski "i've never heard of #b-a. mp who ?"
12:14 pete_dushenski unkosher ostriches with their heads in the sand, these guys.
12:17 danielpbarron !up xcpep_
12:29 ben_vulpes | | | | ->08.68% (67,108,864B) 0x470070: ThreadGetMyExternalIP(void*) (net.cpp:379) << that this is a thing cracks me up
12:30 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what does "in lockstep" mean when you talk about running bitcoind and any potential replacements "in lockstep"?
12:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 366700 @ 0.00022241 = 81.5577 BTC [+] {3}
12:35 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes like processors on spacecraft
12:35 mircea_popescu throw an exception if they disagree
12:35 mircea_popescu cheap and effectual testing of critical stuff like this.
12:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform apparently they're at 3s. longsoon that is. ah, best laid out plans...
12:41 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122488 << it does. also an explicit, painfully explicit, very very explicit, specific, nothing vague at all, nothing overlooked, specific, very explicit discussion of it would make an excellent blogpost.
12:41 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 14:10:21; asciilifeform: takes some effort to read this correctly.
12:42 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122491<< they are not fucked. we were always at war with eurasia. this is what they meant to do!
12:42 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 14:19:10; asciilifeform: the imbeciles are phucked and their only recourse, as is now traditional, is to fud and lawyering
12:43 mircea_popescu every fucktarded girl i ever met growing up, the sort that never got anywhere either in the bed or in the forum, their entire lives, and ended up settling down with an alcoholic bum, each and every one had, without exception, the same answer to any instance where they had fucked up :
12:43 mircea_popescu "o no, that's what i had really meant to do!11"
12:45 mircea_popescu it's like a std, basically, they get it around puberty through apparent spontaneous generation.
12:46 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122508 << yes. because for all the pretense of "development" and "progress" and "new versions" and of course "blockchain technologees" of the #bitcoin-dev muppet orphanage, THEY.HAVE.NOT.ACTUALLY.DONE.ANYTHING.
12:46 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 14:27:11; asciilifeform: l0l, 4th google hit is my patch
12:46 mircea_popescu three years later, they have done NOTHING. nothing at all.
12:47 mircea_popescu polished all the fucking knobs and hanged scented car trees and chinatown windchimes from various nubbins is all.
12:49 mircea_popescu !up bluematt
12:49 mircea_popescu ;;gettrust BlueMatt
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12:50 mircea_popescu !rate BlueMatt 1 one of the few dudes in -dev actually doing something useful.
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12:52 mircea_popescu BlueMatt ftr, you can self voice, it's explained here : http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
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12:56 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122569 << omfg have some mercy. you don't wanna do THAT.
12:56 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 15:59:02; davout: so now do i compile bitcoind right there? or should i somehow compile it on my local machine?
12:59 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
13:01 ascii_field mircea_popescu: xplicit, painfully explicit, very very explicit, specific... << imho it needs another couplea runs. i have a strong sense that something is missed
13:02 mircea_popescu at your leisure.
13:02 ascii_field mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122532 << are you running the original burner? or the thermonuke ?
13:02 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 15:16:19; mod6: I can't really check from here, but later tonight will give some updates as to how my v0.5.3.1+OrphanageBurner build is running. last I saw, it was using quite a bit of available ram. was >200`000 blocks, and still running, but that was lastnight.
13:02 mircea_popescu and after, of course, the phuctor is started on processing gpg signs
13:02 mircea_popescu is it ?
13:02 ascii_field nein
13:02 mircea_popescu man...
13:02 * ascii_field currently mining some uranium
13:03 mircea_popescu stop fucking around with valgrind and whatnot omg.
13:03 ascii_field presently wishing to entice -other folks- to fuck around with it
13:04 mircea_popescu i'll tell you what you're enticing. you're enticing me to can the project.
13:04 mircea_popescu either process the queue or garbage collector gets it, tis that simple.
13:04 ascii_field why mircea_popescu so impatient.
13:04 mircea_popescu because god damned it there's a server sitting there.
13:05 mircea_popescu and i had the thing sitting on your own aws or w/e specifically so you get whatever out of your system before i moive it on real metal, so you don't waste its cycles.
13:05 mircea_popescu apparently a year wasn't enough, which means phuctor's going to hang out with the advertising site we had in short order.
13:06 ben_vulpes don't just let the capital equipment depreciate, now...
13:06 ascii_field ben_vulpes: want to volunteer ?
13:07 ascii_field sks is retarded, so i gotta write a slicer that parses the gpg blobs and reassociates the email/selfsig/pubkey fragments into usable key packets
13:07 mircea_popescu yes.
13:07 ben_vulpes where does one get one of these blobs?
13:08 ascii_field ben_vulpes: https://keyserver.mattrude.com/dump/current
13:08 assbot Index of /dump/current/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qn977b )
13:08 ascii_field for instance.
13:08 mircea_popescu i dunno if you think valgrinding bitcoind is sexier than fixing phuctor or something, but a) it is not, and moreover b) doing it while the other waits is actually negative, it's not even zero. moreover c) this nonsense is exactly how the power rangers got to be power rangers.
13:08 ascii_field not sexier, but had to be set going while i remembered wtf was going to do (was operating from notes scribbled during c3)
13:09 mircea_popescu yeah well.
13:10 ascii_field at any rate, we oughta be cooking with gas before i turn in for bed tonight.
13:10 mircea_popescu that'd be splendid.
13:10 ben_vulpes blech
13:11 mircea_popescu i suppose "make a sane fucking export model" will be part of the ba sks server job.
13:11 ascii_field for the record, i'd rather wash my car than run (esp. read the output of) the valgrind. but who is going to do it if i didn't, l0l
13:11 mircea_popescu speaking of which, how's that thing going mats ?
13:12 mircea_popescu ascii_field there's an order in all things!!
13:12 ascii_field aha.
13:12 nubbins` hi
13:12 mircea_popescu hi nubs
13:13 nubbins` what's the word?
13:13 mircea_popescu logs!
13:13 nubbins` ;/
13:13 nubbins` stan, one of these days i'll read up on valgrind and pick sense outta your last couple ML posts
13:13 mircea_popescu "shut up and copy the day's log in longhand" will be the new standard punishment
13:13 nubbins` i'm still waiting on someone to do up daily summaries
13:14 mircea_popescu sadly i don't think this is actually a possible task.
13:14 ascii_field nubbins`: everyone with the 'one of these days.' you're gonna make mircea_popescu's head explode.
13:14 nubbins` wunna deez days
13:14 mircea_popescu all the people who would have the intellectual capacity to do that worth a shit, we have better stuff to do with.
13:14 nubbins` too true
13:14 mircea_popescu so... this will only happen once we end up with a million kids we have to kill 100k off somehow,
13:15 mircea_popescu and that's how it's gonna be.
13:15 nubbins` oh hey alf, the troll moved out
13:15 nubbins` you'll be thrilled to hear
13:15 ascii_field just now ?
13:15 mircea_popescu no more chef cooking for you eh
13:15 nubbins` couple days ago
13:15 ascii_field left on own feet, or had to be physically ejected ?
13:15 nubbins` ascii_field i gave him walking papers, he acquiesced
13:16 nubbins` he threw all his bedding in the trash o.O
13:16 nubbins` i guess his new accomodations don't provide for sleep
13:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122595 << iirc he wants to supply customers with units. which isn't such a bad plan in any sense. tho a different thing than what we were originally doing. but no reason they can't tandem.
13:16 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 16:05:45; danielpbarron: maybe also the former
13:16 nubbins` anyway, done deal. now his old bedroom is a gloriously sun-lit paper printing studio.
13:17 nubbins` http://imgur.com/aQJWK8H
13:17 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0No7F )
13:18 mircea_popescu check it out! looks just like a print shop
13:19 nubbins` those hanging pages are from a 1000-business-card job that i just finished up
13:19 nubbins` a thousand cards is a lot of cutting ;/
13:20 nubbins` o and the telco gave us a new phone number. SEX-4-ART.
13:20 nubbins` no joke
13:21 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122612 << it's actually a fine entry point to explain to anyone why exactly tcp/ip is so broken. because this IS NOT a trivial task. the price for ipv4 and it's undocumented, buggy, slow and haphazardously ad-hoc nat-routing model is that you can't find out by inspecting yourself. the half-assed, quarter-baked lazy slothful and aol-windowesque implementation means that yo
13:21 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 16:29:14; ben_vulpes: | | | | ->08.68% (67,108,864B) 0x470070: ThreadGetMyExternalIP(void*) (net.cpp:379) << that this is a thing cracks me up
13:21 mircea_popescu u can't simply dig hiostname, as plenty of machines don't have one. so whatcha gonna do ?
13:22 ascii_field mircea_popescu has it.
13:23 mircea_popescu and this is also a fine entry point for explaining to management noobs the meta point of why exactly a theoretical approach doesn't ever work. yes, you could read the tcp/ip spec and look for holes. those are the holes in the tcp/ip spec, not the holes in tcp/ip.
13:23 mircea_popescu it's horrible not so much for what it wants to be on paper,
13:23 mircea_popescu but for what its aspirations cause on the ground.
13:23 ascii_field and then the holes in the implementations...
13:23 ascii_field and the emergent crud from interplay of layers, etc
13:23 nubbins` wait now, who's hanging wind chimes from my what?
13:24 mircea_popescu so ima link this into the cfo/accountant discussion with Pierre_Rochard from yest.
13:24 mircea_popescu nubbins` apparently the word is out. you and your bizarre kink.
13:24 nubbins` matter of time, i guess
13:25 nubbins` incidentally i used to keep a blog on this fetlife-esque website years and years ago
13:25 mircea_popescu any good ?
13:25 nubbins` memories have been coming back
13:25 nubbins` yeah. lotta skin.
13:25 nubbins` privacy on actual lockdown
13:25 mircea_popescu (btw... fetlife scraping still ongoing. they "fixed" so many things meanwhile...)
13:25 nubbins` saw!
13:26 mircea_popescu nubbins` you know there's nothing shameful about being a slut.
13:26 * nubbins` nods sagely
13:26 nubbins` no need to tell me
13:26 nubbins` this site, iam.bmezine.com (still alive in a frankenstein-esque parody of its former self), was actually way ahead of its time
13:26 nubbins` you could set your profile as public or private
13:27 nubbins` then later they added a "tracker" feature that, when enabled, would give you a list of the usernames that have visited your page
13:27 mircea_popescu the way bmezine worked is that a large group of brown shit (random idiots mostly looking into an intersting path to killing themselves, a service boxing did for most of the 1900s, up to about the 90s) got some yellow shit interspersed. these are people who they themselves saw a little further than most.
13:27 nubbins` THEN they let you block people who used trackers on their own pages, etc etc
13:28 mircea_popescu to their reminescence, bmezine, ie, what they saw there then, was way ahead of its time. so would have anything else been, wherever they happened to look.
13:28 mircea_popescu and the rest are dead.
13:28 nubbins` whole thing was written in "powerbasic" which had the unfortunate side effect of all the URLs ending in .exe
13:28 nubbins` like /showprofile.exe?nubbins etc
13:28 mircea_popescu heh. powerball is a language now ? no wonder there's so many coders out there.
13:29 nubbins` as you'd imagine, iam.bmezine.com created an insular environment that convinced a lotta fucked up people that the fucked up things they wanted to do to themselves were acceptable
13:30 mircea_popescu obviously.
13:30 nubbins` the better to cry discrimination, &c
13:30 nubbins` anyway, sordid tale. large chunk of my youth. met a lotta friends and an almost-wife, lost not quite a pound of flesh but close enough to it
13:31 nubbins` founder ended up getting the site stolen from him by an ex, it went to shit, etc
13:31 nubbins` oh, there was this other feature.
13:32 nubbins` you could set your account so that users who hadn't made a blog post in __ months/weeks couldn't view your page
13:32 nubbins` all of these are just band-aids, obv
13:32 nubbins` but what an impressive array of band-aids they were
13:32 nubbins` and implemented in a timely manner!
13:33 nubbins` hmm. "I've got a weak spot for great branding, your company itself is a brand and it transfers so well into the work you do."
13:33 mats mircea_popescu: in the works, i hope to have deliverables ready by the end of this month. do you want me to rent a server to host the thing?
13:33 nubbins` ^ email from a local
13:34 nubbins` also, this was amazing
13:34 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
13:35 nubbins` yesterday, the canadian province of alberta (canada's texas) elected a majority NDP (the leftmost party we've got) government
13:35 nubbins` truly bizarre
13:36 mircea_popescu mats wow impressive.
13:36 mircea_popescu and nah, you're getting one.
13:36 mircea_popescu <nubbins`> founder ended up getting the site stolen from him by an ex, it went to shit, etc << you know the story of collarme ?
13:36 nubbins` naw
13:37 mircea_popescu ahaha. http://collarme.com/
13:37 assbot Where is Collarme? | Where is Collarme? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qnf5ox )
13:37 mircea_popescu this ex stole just the domain names. ps - if you're into "building an online business" - forget the idiots trying to push "compliance" because hey, they live off the usg dole so gotta pretend like the usg matters to even be able to get up in the morning.
13:38 nubbins` http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5945
13:38 assbot Shannon Larratt Leaves ModBlog/BME | Warren Ellis ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qnfibe )
13:38 ben_vulpes bizpartner's glider club is getting scammed with SEO
13:38 mircea_popescu exes are the real threat. they sunk a lot more ~profitable~ businesses than the various usg.agency constructs.
13:38 ben_vulpes someone's making and selling gift certificates on their behalf
13:38 ben_vulpes dudes at the field don't know the diff
13:38 mircea_popescu heh. this is also a lot more common than commonly known.
13:39 mircea_popescu "gift certificates" has been the primary way to move value from business to scammer since the 90s.
13:39 mircea_popescu not credit card fraud. this.
13:39 nubbins` i have maybe $300 in unspent gift cards in this house
13:39 mircea_popescu whether groupon (usg mafia) gets it or ru or cn mafia gets it... still gotten.
13:40 mircea_popescu nubbins` anyway, only notable for the ending of the original post, "However this conflict is resolved, I now know that I cannot rely upon my former partner and dearest friend and in the following year may work to build a BDSM dating site that is run effectively, responsibly and for the benefit of its users, not as a personal kingdom."
13:40 mircea_popescu muppets got it exactly fucking backwards.
13:40 nubbins` heh
13:41 nubbins` BME worked as a personal kingdom
13:41 nubbins` failed as a committee-run thing
13:41 mircea_popescu doh.
13:41 mircea_popescu the us worked as a personal kingdom
13:41 mircea_popescu failed, as a committee run thing.
13:41 ben_vulpes most things do, if under competent kings right?
13:41 mircea_popescu right.
13:42 mircea_popescu you don't get to even hear about them otherwise. by the time you hear about amazon, or apple, or /we it's no longer on the table whether bezos is or is not competent.
13:42 mircea_popescu o wow, "He is the writer of the graphic novel RED, adapted into the film starring Bruce Willis and Helen Mirren." << how the fuck did i miss this. you seen it nubbins` ?
13:42 nubbins` mp that's a bio for warren ellis, not shannon larratt
13:42 nubbins` 8)
13:43 nubbins` haven't seen it either way
13:43 mircea_popescu teh mironova chick definitely could do with some manhandling
13:43 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:43 ascii_field exes were sinking kingdoms and empires since t=-inf
13:43 mircea_popescu yup
13:44 nubbins` https://www.facebook.com/notes/lukas-lukas-zpira/interview-with-shannon-larratt-followed-by-rachel-larratt-the-non-interview/409086949252718
13:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0Qjx6 )
13:44 nubbins` ^ publicly viewable, no acct reqd
13:44 mircea_popescu but anyway, moral being : forget about putting your time and effort into "compliance". for one thing it's stupid. for the other thing, who the fuck are they ?! and finally it's deliberately made to not be a satisfiable requirement. just there to soak up your time and resources.
13:44 mircea_popescu outright ignore "compliance", spend the time and resources on the harem instead.
13:44 mircea_popescu winning strat.
13:45 mircea_popescu (and no, i am not aware you can be a successful king without a harem. your gender is not particularly relevant, your sexual preferences are not particularly relevant either. but you will have a lot of intimate relationships with a lot of other people, who are comitted to you personally.)
13:46 nubbins` "One of the things I discovered is that if someone else has more money than you and are willing to spend it on lawyers, "right and wrong" are not very important!"
13:46 mircea_popescu doh.
13:46 nubbins` ah, here we go.
13:46 mircea_popescu fetlife bitterly discovered same recently. was kinda fun to watch.
13:46 ben_vulpes guns by any other name kill as well.
13:46 nubbins` "BME was hugely profitable. That said, because I trusted others to manage my finances, I was under the impression that BME was barely breaking even though it really was a license to print money. I was much more interested in BME on a creative level than a business level."
13:46 nubbins` that's the elevator version right there
13:47 mircea_popescu yeah, the funny thing about the human condition, in its fractally-deliberate misdesign, is that the slaves are altogether more likely to be creative than the masters.
13:47 ben_vulpes i wonder to what degree that describes burning man's finances.
13:48 ben_vulpes harem and slave are similar concepts in this model of "leadership"?
13:48 mircea_popescu which is a fine entry point for explaining to the naive why exactly a properly explicit master-slave relationship is the best intimate arrangement available.
13:48 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes similar but not identical, and the difference is way out of scope here.
13:48 ben_vulpes (harem member i suppose that i mean)
13:49 mircea_popescu (as the above explanation, consider moldbug's very valid discussion of the guy with the ring that could kill. he who is secure in his authority makes excellent leadership. he who is not - horribru)
13:50 ascii_field fnargl!
13:50 ascii_field his bulbous majesty!
13:50 nubbins` lel
13:50 nubbins` https://instagram.com/rachellarratt/
13:50 assbot Rachel Larratt (@rachellarratt) • Instagram photos and videos ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0QQ29 )
13:50 mircea_popescu and to do a meta point here, to go with the meta point above : this entire discussion is a fine point to explain to the managerially challenged why you can't "control the evaporation". where intelligent people lay, nubbins' lateral discussion of "bullshot nobody cares about" sparked stuff people do seem to care about.
13:50 mircea_popescu lotta win in laterality.
13:51 nubbins` "All I need is <username of my dog>, <my motorcycle>, and maybe a little adventure now and then."
13:51 nubbins` suspiciously absent from list of things she needs: her daughter o.O
13:51 mircea_popescu nubbins` is her nose big enough to qualify as a rachel ?
13:51 nubbins` no
13:51 mircea_popescu scam.
13:53 mircea_popescu ascii_field yeah him. and incidentally, this is the secular driver of the collapse in quality of life and everything else seen since the 1700s (it is a horrid collapse once you do inflation-adjustments) : back then leadership was secure, and therefore either good or motivated to improve, ever so marginally.
13:53 mircea_popescu today most models have insecure leadership, and so "corruption", which is NEVER a problem, ends up misrepresented as one.
13:53 ascii_field mircea_popescu: this was 98% of mr mold's theme
13:53 mircea_popescu it's valid.
13:53 ascii_field aha.
13:54 mircea_popescu for that matter, the problem with yarvin was not the broad strokes, but all the empty mcdonalds wrappers he glued to them everywhere.
13:54 ascii_field it is obvious as daylight, to anyone who gives a damn
13:54 ascii_field what he found in the junkyard where he grew up - he glued, yes.
13:54 mircea_popescu i guess it's possible he's just a bodysnatcher victim, rather than outright ill intended.
13:55 mircea_popescu but this distinction without a difference /me can scarcely be interested in.
13:55 mircea_popescu maybe if he had nice tits and i was fucking her. maybe.
13:56 ascii_field famine victim.
13:56 ben_vulpes sounds familiar
13:57 mircea_popescu ascii_field let's play a game. i quote and you guess.
13:57 ascii_field shoot
13:59 mircea_popescu Yes, that's very pretty. I heard a story once. In fact, I've heard a lot of stories in my time. They went along with the sound
13:59 mircea_popescu of a tinny piano playing in the parlor downstairs."Mister, I met a man once when I was a kid," they'd always begin.
14:01 ascii_field twain ?
14:01 mircea_popescu hehe nope.
14:01 ascii_field who then
14:01 mircea_popescu a little known jew named epstein
14:02 mircea_popescu the wachowski brothers of the 40s, julius and phillip
14:02 mircea_popescu (it's from casablanca, bogart says it to the stupid priss w/e her name is)
14:03 ascii_field hm how's this plug in
14:03 mircea_popescu she was a "famine victim" too.
14:04 ascii_field famine victims do the stupidest imaginable shit, like eating dirt and sand, drinking sea water
14:04 ascii_field sometimes - nutritious insects in the dirt
14:04 mircea_popescu not all of them.
14:06 ascii_field <mircea_popescu> not all of them << the remaining - starve quietly, with honour ?
14:07 mircea_popescu the remaining never gave a shit in the first place.
14:07 ascii_field wai wat
14:07 mircea_popescu there's a reason nubbins` finds the mentally insane so fascinating. that reason is that he has the deep intuition that the only people worth the mention are the ones that don't actually care.
14:08 ascii_field paging herr limonov!
14:08 ascii_field 'nuts are the only sane folks' - oldest meme in the book - not wrong, really, either
14:08 mircea_popescu myeah.
14:09 mircea_popescu ascii_field anyway, if it's not obvious, the tinny piano in the parlor downstairs explicitly says the woman's a whore.
14:09 ascii_field well yes
14:10 mircea_popescu she never actually confronts this, which is why To Have and Have Not is a much better movie than casablanca.
14:11 mircea_popescu it's also why it had to be made (it's quite obviously a remake of casablanca, without the "girl next door" slime befouling it). that point has to be addressed.
14:13 nubbins` so i have five bottles of neutral-pH bookbinding glue
14:14 mircea_popescu party ?
14:14 nubbins` cracked the seal on one today -- solid mass of rubberish white inside
14:14 nubbins` crack the seals on the other four -- same thing.
14:14 nubbins` http://imgur.com/BwIOrA2
14:14 assbot Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0TdSB )
14:15 nubbins` so i call the supplier
14:15 nubbins` "yeah, we don't have any more in stock, and we're not expecting any more... we can give you a refund on thursday"
14:16 mod6 ascii_field: I'm running with this patch: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150504/asciilifeform_orphanage_thermonuke_2d219fdd1a0da960be38797566e9c0820df11ce6.patch
14:16 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1P0Tnti )
14:16 nubbins` and that was the moment i said to myself "fuck currys, i'm ordering from talas from now on"
14:16 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:17 ascii_field mod6: aha i asked because you specified 'orphanage burner' - which was the 1st try of this
14:17 mod6 OH
14:17 mod6 my bad.
14:17 mod6 didn't mean to confuse them.
14:17 ascii_field very different animals.
14:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 209900 @ 0.00022117 = 46.4236 BTC [-] {2}
14:18 ascii_field the thermonuker is (very tentatively) a candidate for merge.
14:18 ascii_field imho
14:18 mircea_popescu should really see what itproduces as a blockchain first. at a bare minimum
14:18 ascii_field aha
14:19 ascii_field mircea_popescu: which is why i took the time to set it going.
14:20 ascii_field mircea_popescu: take a few min. to read the patch, if you have not. the behaviour should be logically equivalent to virginal 0.5.3 with an orphanage of zero
14:21 ascii_field (or a freshly crashed and coldbooted one)
14:21 mircea_popescu i have.
14:21 mircea_popescu and i agree.
14:21 mircea_popescu nevertheless...
14:21 * ascii_field wishes to hear from other folks who have.
14:28 mod6 and as far as valgrind, I'll do some stuff with it as I get through these other things.
14:30 mod6 im through stage 1 of the gentoo stuff; but now need to document and get that published hopefully by the start of next week. then need to get it setup for cross-compiling.
14:31 mod6 I also want to focus on the testing of your patch ascii_field. If it is to be merged, we must ensure that we do not regress.
14:32 ascii_field iirc we don't even have a uclibc build going.
14:32 ascii_field victory is far, very far.
14:34 mod6 what needs to be done there?
14:34 * ascii_field does not yet know
14:34 mod6 ah, ok.
14:34 * ascii_field has all 256 shiva hands full
14:35 mod6 :]
14:36 mod6 ahh, so this is for embedded systems -- to replace a bulky/asinine glibc?
14:36 ascii_field aha.
14:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00022044 = 12.7855 BTC [-]
15:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 248198 @ 0.00022529 = 55.9165 BTC [+] {3}
15:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123119 @ 0.00022582 = 27.8027 BTC [+]
15:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139300 @ 0.00022631 = 31.525 BTC [+] {2}
15:08 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-four-points-of-this-morning-in-color-any-questions/ :D
15:08 assbot The four points of this morning, in color. Any questions ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1c6FO9F )
15:08 nubbins` <+ascii_field> iirc we don't even have a uclibc build going. <<< i was neck-deep in this before i got sidetracked by life
15:09 nubbins` at some point i'll get back into it
15:09 nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122689
15:09 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 17:14:07; ascii_field: nubbins`: everyone with the 'one of these days.' you're gonna make mircea_popescu's head explode.
15:12 mircea_popescu !up dgenr8
15:12 mircea_popescu !up dgenr8
15:22 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122762 << scoopy counts as logs too y'know. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122543
15:22 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 17:35:05; nubbins`: yesterday, the canadian province of alberta (canada's texas) elected a majority NDP (the leftmost party we've got) government
15:22 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 15:52:39; scoopbot_revived: News! A not-so-new era begins in Alberta politics. URL: http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/06/a-not-so-new-era-begins-in-alberta-politics/
15:22 nubbins` haw
15:22 pete_dushenski also, article updated with... yet another personal connection to ndp.
15:23 pete_dushenski i wouldn't say i'm ashamed, but my goodness does socialism run deep in my veins.
15:23 mircea_popescu kinda what being a jew is.
15:23 pete_dushenski the lulz then ? this is on the ukrainian orthodox side.
15:24 pete_dushenski i'm getting hit both ways.
15:24 pete_dushenski no way out !
15:24 mircea_popescu basically, jews came up with the first social security system. this, cca 2000 ad.
15:24 mircea_popescu bc*
15:24 mircea_popescu christians then imported it
15:24 pete_dushenski sure, taking the sabbath
15:24 mircea_popescu nah, not just that. having kids eat at different houses each day so they could stay in school ?
15:24 mircea_popescu have debts periodically reset ?
15:24 mircea_popescu etc.
15:24 pete_dushenski ah yes, jubilee
15:25 mircea_popescu (note incidentally that the ancient superset of family life - each kid eats with his mother - is harem life - each kid eats with all the mothers)
15:25 pete_dushenski what's the story on the kids eating around ? first i've heard of it.
15:25 mircea_popescu this is how the jews thought best to prepare elites.
15:25 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski what do you think yeshiva was originally ?
15:25 mircea_popescu this arrangement.
15:26 pete_dushenski so seven different households, weekly rotation ?
15:26 mircea_popescu more like 30 or w/e
15:26 mircea_popescu that's how student = vagabond even became a hting.
15:27 pete_dushenski aha. and this yeshivic arrangement is part of social security as well ?
15:27 mircea_popescu well isn't it ?
15:27 mircea_popescu "govt" gives you a meal ticket.
15:27 mircea_popescu the boys aren't expected to SEDUCE those married women and OVERPOWER their husbands, are they ?
15:28 pete_dushenski aha or "community" feeds
15:28 pete_dushenski surely not.
15:28 pete_dushenski but if they do, a man is he !
15:29 mircea_popescu hardly. more like an inhuman force of nature that has the potential to be massively disruptive and interfacing him to the village may well cost more than it's worth.
15:30 pete_dushenski so a rotating set of meals as a test, a benchmark, to ensure cohesion and the integrity of the social fabric.
15:31 mircea_popescu no, just, to make taxation bearable and spending of public funds effectual.
15:32 pete_dushenski and if boy is not worth it ? well what of him ?
15:33 mircea_popescu this is how boy becomes the castrated sort of cvasi-intellectual jewish world always produced. the women love the style because it flatters their inferiority complex, the men tolerate it because they don't like fighting (or think they don't, because they grew up the same way)
15:35 pete_dushenski and what of the boys who don't stay or won't be castrated ? the ones who seduce and overpower ?
15:36 mircea_popescu like... who ?
15:37 mircea_popescu im sure they have excellent personal histories. but, much like in the case of the messiah you hadn't heard of, the "culture" or w/e it is fails to meaningfully represent them.
15:37 mircea_popescu (this is ITS failure, try it as it might to misrepresent it as theirs)
15:39 pete_dushenski so spinoza, einstein, maimonides, freud, bohr aren't meaningfully represented ?
15:40 kakobrekla http://www.iflscience.org/japan-engineers-design-robotic-bear-to-aid-in-assisted-suicide/
15:40 assbot Japan Engineers Design Robotic Bear to aid in Assisted Suicide - IFLScience ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6hdz7 )
15:40 mircea_popescu o.O
15:40 kakobrekla >SeppuKuma also offers 23 very different methods one can choose to end their life, including Everlasting Sleep (lethal injection), Pillow Kisses (suffocation), Peaceful Breath (helium asphyxia) and Sleepy time Hug which is where the robotic bear strangles its partner until their pulse stops for 15 minutes.
15:40 kakobrekla hard call
15:40 mircea_popescu wow.
15:41 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski who the hell's any of these dudes overpower ?
15:41 mircea_popescu take einstein. he died lieing about his gfs. didja get that bit in the log ?
15:41 pete_dushenski hm yes.
15:42 mircea_popescu what overpower is this /
15:42 nubbins` pillow kisses
15:42 nubbins` nb
15:42 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu we might need to go back to the maccabees for a proper example.
15:43 mircea_popescu kakobrekla no fucking to death, amazingly enough
15:43 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
15:43 nubbins` "in this method, a pillow softly kisses you as your body thrashes wildly until brain death occurs"
15:45 pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Mercedes-snowed-over-May-6-2015-e1430941436595.jpg << ndp wins. snow day immediately thereafter. god cackles.
15:45 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JrzwfX )
15:46 nubbins` hmm, i ordered that glue in february. maybe it froze during transit.
15:47 jurov you collectively forgot to thank Him He did not make you women
15:47 mircea_popescu i think i'd have had a ball as a woman.
15:48 trinque nubbins`: ndp's the one shouting about taxing the rich more?
15:49 pete_dushenski trinque yup.
15:50 nubbins` that'd be them
15:50 trinque that'll work; good for them
15:50 nubbins` ehhhh
15:50 nubbins` i don't think it will
15:51 nubbins` but i guess we'll see
15:51 pete_dushenski ndp = boost corporate taxes from 10 to 12%, increase min. wage to $15/hr, 12% tax rate on income between $125,000 to $150,000; 13% on income between $150,000 to $200,000; 14% between $200,000 and $300,000 and 15% over $300,000, all up from 10% flat provincial tax
15:51 pete_dushenski federal is still stepped, alberta WAS the only province with flat income tax.
15:51 mircea_popescu you don't understand how the world works. when you're out of money, you find someone who has some and either steal or beg for it.
15:51 nubbins` meanwhile here in twodogland, HST just went up 2%
15:51 pete_dushenski nubbins` gross.
15:52 nubbins` we found some oil and it went to our heads
15:52 nubbins` and danny millions sold us yet another boondoggle in the form of muskrat falls
15:52 nubbins` onward through the fog!
15:52 pete_dushenski jurov at least the new premier is happy to be a woman.
15:53 trinque mircea_popescu: rich people have literally infinite money
15:53 trinque and after all they're just sitting on it
15:53 mircea_popescu for the record, laratt as glider gets pretty thoroughly routed on http://www.metafilter.com/49480/I-Pledge-Allegiance-to-the-Confederate-States#1222181 and subsequent
15:53 assbot I Pledge Allegiance to the Confederate States... | MetaFilter ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6iPZG )
15:54 mircea_popescu i should hope the man's mental processes weren't as disordered in all fields as he displays here.
15:54 nubbins` mircea_popescu zentastic.com, see for yourself
15:54 nubbins` (tldr: mostly, yup.)
15:56 scoopbot_revived News! The four points of this morning, in color. Any questions ? URL: http://trilema.com/2015/the-four-points-of-this-morning-in-color-any-questions/
15:58 mircea_popescu lol wb scoopbot_revived . apparently it does catchup work now, which is great.
15:59 pete_dushenski scoopy still doesn't talk to assbot...
16:00 pete_dushenski for titles.
16:00 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski what do you mean ?
16:01 nubbins` i had no idea how many github repositories are stuffed with copyrighted fonts
16:01 nubbins` o.O
16:01 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu upon review of scoopbot_revived's exquisite design, which includes the titles, nothing !
16:01 mircea_popescu "Sure, we can all agree that the assumptions made about the nature of blacks at the time was wrong, but that doesn't give us the right to condemn slave owners who didn't know any better. We don't condemn cave people for eating uncooked meat just because they hadn't discovered fire yet, do we?"
16:01 mircea_popescu ahaha epic.
16:02 trinque nubbins`: that's the accepted way to find fonts among designers these days
16:02 trinque ext:ttf site:github.com derpy font
16:02 mircea_popescu meanwhile, i just had a very bloody steak. must be because i've not yet discovered how to make beef unedible.
16:02 trinque teh googles
16:02 nubbins` otf baby!
16:03 nubbins` ttf is vulgar
16:03 * trinque is not a designer
16:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 204668 @ 0.00022041 = 45.1109 BTC [-] {2}
16:04 * jurov recently embarked on a journey to obtain a "Garamond" which was supposed to be publicly licensed and available
16:04 jurov nope. had to manually patch "GaramondNo8" ttf files
16:05 nubbins` garamond is nice.
16:05 * nubbins` uses adobe version ;/
16:07 jurov https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434262 gory details
16:08 assbot Bug 434262 – media-fonts/urwvn-fonts - wrong license due to vn garamond ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6k7Up )
16:13 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:13 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122989 << l0l - how about as an elephant? eagle ?
16:13 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 19:47:33; mircea_popescu: i think i'd have had a ball as a woman.
16:13 ascii_field what algo one even uses to answer this hypothetical.
16:15 nubbins` heh
16:15 nubbins` I'D HAVE HAD A BALL AS AN EAGLE
16:15 nubbins` this is prob not untrue
16:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92400 @ 0.00022024 = 20.3502 BTC [-]
16:20 jurov guess imma open another bugreport. i tried what's there in the urwvn-fonts versio
16:20 jurov package.. and it's damn ugly
16:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174600 @ 0.00021938 = 38.3037 BTC [-] {2}
16:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144306 @ 0.00022384 = 32.3015 BTC [+]
16:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82100 @ 0.00022384 = 18.3773 BTC [+]
16:45 danielpbarron !up schmidty
16:46 trinque re: font thread, anyone have a monospaced font with decent word shape?
16:46 trinque I'm using terminus atm with the letter spacing cranked down a bit, works ok
16:49 fluffypony http://www.globalpost.com/article/6537732/2015/05/04/moldova-protest-stolen-1-billion
16:49 assbot Someone stole $1 billion from Moldova. That's an eighth of its GDP | GlobalPost ... ( http://bit.ly/1byCSCg )
16:49 fluffypony lol
16:50 trinque ???Our country is a poor and agrarian country,??? he told GlobalPost on Monday. ???But it???s home to decent people who want their country to flourish, to be closer to European standards, and for it to find its economic niche alongside the European Union.??? << lol europe pls halp
16:51 danielpbarron !up schmidty
16:51 trinque is this the only political issue in the region, whether to be eaten by the EU or Russia?
16:53 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-coruptia-nu-va-putea-fi-niciodata-eliminata/ << any interest in translating this for the non-romanian-speakers like me ?
16:53 assbot De ce coruptia nu va putea fi niciodata eliminata on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDjMY )
16:54 pete_dushenski if not, i'd be willing to take a hack at it.
16:54 trinque and what I wonder is whether to expect a war over the partitioning of eastern europe, or whether the basic agreement on who gets what has already been made
16:54 trinque I could easily see the latter
16:54 pete_dushenski http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/05/150506013759601.html << for poor bingoboingo.
16:54 assbot Pacquiao sued by fans for concealing injury - Al Jazeera English ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDqYK )
16:54 danielpbarron !up schmidty
16:55 pete_dushenski trinque deal already made between germany and russia ? you think ?
16:56 danielpbarron schmidty, how did you find this place?
16:56 trinque pete_dushenski: dunno what I think, asking the question though. I'm not well informed on eastern european politics.
16:57 trinque my inclination is to believe all these bastards running the largest socialist states talk to each other
16:57 schmidty saw a provocative looking comment about the blocksize and i am falling down a rabbit hole now
16:57 jurov there were lots of such deals, most recent: http://www.globalpost.com/article/6537732/2015/05/04/moldova-protest-stolen-1-billion
16:57 assbot Someone stole $1 billion from Moldova. That's an eighth of its GDP | GlobalPost ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDHeq )
16:57 jurov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances
16:57 assbot Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1byDHLh )
16:57 jurov sry i meant this
16:58 jurov but russia very resents and already violated it by annexing crimea
16:59 jurov except they did not violate it, but these kiev nazis
16:59 jurov etc.etc.
16:59 trinque that seems to be the issue looking from far outside
17:00 trinque after the USSR collapse, all these fragments of the USSR military left outside the border of russia
17:00 trinque and russians that migrated outside russia
17:00 trinque so the cynic in me says the whole nato/russia game is merely ironing out the details of the new russian borders, considering the above
17:01 ascii_field trinque: in all cases but ua, accurate. the bulk of ua, on the other hand, was created by hruschev with a pencil
17:01 ascii_field the russians - did not move.
17:01 ascii_field map - moved.
17:02 jurov and tatars were moved, too
17:02 trinque ascii_field: ah right, land was gifted to "ukraine"
17:02 ascii_field when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not.
17:03 pete_dushenski to the enemy, your power is never 'ok'
17:03 pete_dushenski 'power isn't how the world works!'
17:03 pete_dushenski it works my going on between two ferns with zach g.
17:04 ascii_field stalin was a pathologically forgiving fella.
17:04 pete_dushenski and holding seflie sticks.
17:04 ascii_field all the folks who helped the germans do their thing - not one in ten thousand answered with his skin.
17:04 ascii_field and now fellate usg.
17:04 pete_dushenski hm. stalin painted as being too forgiving. that's a new one.
17:05 ascii_field very forgiving. had temp. moratorium on death penalty after ww2, even.
17:05 ascii_field (minus nuremberg folks & vlasov's army)
17:06 pete_dushenski who other than vlasov's army helped germans ? and why were they spared ?
17:06 trinque ascii_field: does make all of it sound like russia's trying to maintain form, while nato's trying thwart this as it can
17:07 trinque *trying to
17:08 jurov alf some time ago explained russia needs buffer zone between itself and eu/nato. and that by any costs.
17:08 ascii_field jurov: more basic than this - needs to not have u.s. nukes across the street (ua, pl, etc)
17:08 ascii_field just as usa did not like them in cuba
17:08 ascii_field how much would usa like ru tank corps 'training mission' in mexican border weekly ?
17:08 jurov yes, only chineses allowed
17:09 jurov and pakistani
17:09 jurov and iran eventually
17:09 ascii_field last time cn had major shenanigans on ru border, there was a mini-war
17:09 ascii_field (damansk)
17:09 jurov ascii_field: they do have stuff in nikaragua
17:09 ascii_field ru?
17:09 jurov yes
17:09 ascii_field even in cuba, until late '90s, they had
17:10 ascii_field then went broke
17:10 jurov and why are defensive radar/anti-missile systems not ok then?
17:10 jurov in central eu
17:10 ascii_field ask usa why they are not ok in cuba
17:11 trinque doesn't seem to be a question of "ok"
17:11 trinque more like one of those ratcheting ties for a truck load
17:11 jurov ru ever tried to ship defensive systems to cuba?
17:11 ascii_field aha.
17:12 ascii_field thing is, 'defensive' is a deceptive word here
17:12 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Athletes compete injured all the time.
17:12 ascii_field a machine that lets you detect other fella's rockets 5sec earlier, is really as much a lethal weapon as a nuke per se
17:13 trinque ascii_field: sure, and an anti-missile missile launcher can probably fire the other kind too, right?
17:13 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo for sure. no such thing as perfect health for athletes.
17:13 trinque "don't worry, this is only an anti-gunman gun"
17:13 trinque oh good.
17:13 BingoBoingo Now denying the ketorolac shot, far bigger issue
17:14 ascii_field trinque: basic idea is that anything that potentially tips balance of thermonukefest in your favour, is an act of aggression from the other fella's pov
17:15 ascii_field and that this is perfectly pedestrian fact, regardless of whether you like usg or putin or kim jong un or hitler
17:15 trinque of course
17:15 trinque also stands to reason that I can lie and say my nuke installations are all merely anti-ICBM installations
17:15 jurov ascii_field: you know what is the only possible response to such doctrine?
17:15 jurov trying to bleed ru out, again
17:15 ascii_field jurov: sure
17:15 ascii_field what other could there be.
17:15 BingoBoingo ;;google Nike Hercules
17:15 gribble Ed's Nike Missile Web Site: <http://ed-thelen.org/>; MIM-14 Nike Hercules - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-14_Nike_Hercules>; Project Nike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nike>
17:16 BingoBoingo ^ trinque Nike for anti-Bomber duty
17:16 trinque we're an odd species
17:16 BingoBoingo *Nuke
17:16 trinque imagine another one came along and saw us all with nukes pointed everywhere, and it wanted the planet
17:16 ascii_field eltsin died, ru spat out the usg cock, and is to bleed for this, yes
17:17 trinque just fake a few nuke radar signatures and boom, planet fumigated
17:17 trinque from an external threat perspective we're as weak as could be
17:18 trinque let rama zip through the solar system once and then ask me how much I give a shit what the border of transnistria is
17:19 ascii_field very easy to not give a fuck about a border that isn't through your house.
17:20 jurov this is not only your house
17:21 ascii_field aha it's also hitler's.
17:21 ascii_field 'learn to share,' he will say.
17:21 jurov i see everyone who is not you is hitler
17:23 ascii_field obamitler
17:23 ascii_field (next year - clitler!)
17:24 trinque heh we could've had mitler
17:24 * trinque is going to need to move back to TX during clitler; they'll be going apeshit over it
17:32 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122855 <<< sisters now
17:32 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 18:02:08; mircea_popescu: the wachowski brothers of the 40s, julius and phillip
17:32 jurov https://dennikn.sk/124574/shooty-stalin-a-hitler/?ref=mpm heh "they like you in your country?"
17:32 assbot Shooty: Stalin a Hitler ... ( http://bit.ly/1AFXD5z )
17:41 trinque BingoBoingo: just read that page; sounds like yeah, can be used for either surface->air or surface->surface
17:41 trinque the propaganda around this shit is thick.
17:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 290850 @ 0.00021998 = 63.9812 BTC [-] {2}
17:42 trinque so rolling from a defensive use to offensive is a matter of loading ammo, not replacing the gun
17:42 pete_dushenski 'gtbc' update : cantor fitzgerald has a 100 share buy order for at $25.00. 52wk range: $37.98 - $94.86. heh.
17:42 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu key blaster is operational
17:42 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:42 trinque why the fuck wouldn't russia think we eventually intend to first-strike them
17:43 BingoBoingo trinque: But, the range of the nike is rather short. St Louis's Nikes couldn't hit Chicago and Vice Versa.
17:43 pete_dushenski 'gbtc'*
17:43 cazalla danielpbarron, did bravetheworld end up naming the people she references in her article?
17:43 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu a good fraction of the existing db overlaps with the first coupla-1000 of the dump
17:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:43 danielpbarron cazalla, nope not yet
17:44 ascii_field http://nosuchlabs.com/stats
17:44 assbot So far: | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1DX3RiW )
17:44 danielpbarron although her point #5 makes me suspect it is max keiser or something
17:46 pete_dushenski zynga lays off 364 people, loses a penny a share, stock up 7%. farmville bringing in 1/4 what is was 2 years ago.
17:46 cazalla danielpbarron, i think max and stacy are utter trash
17:46 danielpbarron me too
17:46 cazalla anyway.. i think bravetheworld was warned about the alex jones types
17:47 trinque ascii_field: pretty cool, and thanks for providing that
17:48 danielpbarron warned when? by who?
17:49 cazalla i told her in here like a year ago
17:51 BingoBoingo Ah, the Phuctor is being fed!
17:56 pete_dushenski http://karakullake.blogspot.ca/2015/05/22-countries-great-britain-did-not.html
17:56 assbot Tamerlane's Thoughts: 22 countries Great Britain did not invade ... ( http://bit.ly/1AG1rE2 )
17:58 trinque pete_dushenski: heh, so many of those are "landlocked, why bother"
17:59 pete_dushenski mebbe for the sake of completeness ? if the brits were detail-obsessed nuts, they'd leave no stone unturned.
17:59 pete_dushenski not that they were exactly half-assed.
18:05 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Keyblaster seems to have paused
18:05 ascii_field BingoBoingo: i know
18:05 ascii_field BingoBoingo: adding error detect
18:05 BingoBoingo k
18:10 BingoBoingo Once the number of keys gets up there I'm writing this up as news
18:11 danielpbarron !up schmidty i found this place when i was reading up on scams on the forums. MPOE-PR ftw!
18:13 pete_dushenski https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37443/the-other-investors << moar garza, in case anyone's bored.
18:13 assbot The Other investors | HashTalk - Ideas, Talk, and Hardware - Bitcoin & Scrypt Mining ... ( http://bit.ly/1AG3s2O )
18:17 pete_dushenski "Thanks for ruining my first crypto experience everyone involved! I'll still be around like Jerry Springers audience just to ooh and ahhh and yell punch that bit**from time to time." << some poor commenter.
18:19 pete_dushenski in other news, "Netanyahu's right-wing Likud sealed an agreement with ultranationalist Jewish Home, which advocates annexation of parts of occupied territory Palestinians seek for a state."
18:20 ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu ERROR: certificate common name “keys.mattrude.com” doesn’t match requested host name “keyserver.mattrude.com” << when fetching fresh sks from dulap
18:20 gribble The operation succeeded.
18:20 ascii_field mega-ftmeade-l0l ?
18:22 pete_dushenski !s spgnux
18:22 assbot 0 results for 'spgnux' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=spgnux
18:22 pete_dushenski http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/06/us-china-software-idUSKBN0NQ2A220150506
18:22 assbot Tea to tech: China's cybersecurity push sparks a 'gold rush'| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1IPloiw )
18:23 pete_dushenski "Last November, the 49-year old entrepreneur, who has no technology background, strode into a Beijing ballroom to pitch his latest made-in-China product: SPGnux, a Linux-based operating system he says could replace Microsoft Corp's Windows."
18:23 pete_dushenski today spgnux is in 1600 chinese gov offices.
18:36 jurov pity the did not adopt and finish reactos.. would like to see utter panic at m$
18:36 jurov *they
18:37 jurov if there was winxp drop replacement
18:39 danielpbarron !up xcpep-mobile hi who are you?
18:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95700 @ 0.00022135 = 21.1832 BTC [+]
18:44 danielpbarron !up schmidty figure out that GPG yet?
18:44 schmidty danielpbarron yep, getting into wot now
18:48 schmidty !register 1CF87B48F45FECB1C31625988C3B6B1EED7494DF
18:48 assbot Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 1CF87B48F45FECB1C31625988C3B6B1EED7494DF. This may take a few moments.
18:48 assbot Key ED7494DF / "Mike Schmidt <schmidty@gmail.com>" successfully imported.
18:48 assbot Registration successful.
18:49 cazalla http://motherboard.vice.com/read/unless-everyone-using-bitcoin-makes-this-radical-change-the-currency-will-die (block size limit rubbish)
18:49 assbot Unless Everyone Using Bitcoin Makes This Radical Change, the Currency Will Die | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1DSVGTr )
18:51 danielpbarron !v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.schmidty.1:80a6966e28d66c718e893cf54cd773075f48c54a4bf99f85a378e7e3a45acdd5
18:51 assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for schmidty with note: saw a provocative looking comment about the blocksize and is now falling down a rabbit hole
18:51 danielpbarron schmidty, now you can voice yourself with /msg assbot !up
18:52 schmidty danielpbarron appreciated. i have much reading to do
19:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126350 @ 0.0002214 = 27.9739 BTC [+] {2}
19:09 danielpbarron "and the file size of each block can be up to 1 megabyte." << heh. everything is a file!
19:11 mod6 asciilifeform: here's an update as to where my test of v0.5.3.1+Orphanage_Thermonuke is at: http://dpaste.com/3J5K2JB.txt
19:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1comTIp )
19:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 202395 @ 0.00022329 = 45.1928 BTC [+] {2}
19:14 mod6 for comparison sake, here's what the machine looked like before and just after bitcoind with this patch was executed: http://dpaste.com/094DT78.txt
19:14 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DSY900 )
19:19 mod6 dentist numbed me up so much even my nose is numb.
19:20 danielpbarron !up rgove hello!
19:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 222073 @ 0.00021637 = 48.0499 BTC [-] {2}
19:34 mircea_popescu !up schmidty
19:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu!
19:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform heya!
19:34 mircea_popescu seems just keys/keyserver domain change heh.
19:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: thing's churning (largely overlap with previous shots, so werker queue is mostly empty).
19:35 mircea_popescu grand!
19:35 asciilifeform cannot exclude that jokers signed fictional subdomain
19:35 * mircea_popescu goes to witness this splendor
19:35 mircea_popescu indeed.
19:35 mircea_popescu weshould find out in no time tho.
19:35 asciilifeform presently piping from own box
19:35 mircea_popescu Submissions: 5072
19:35 asciilifeform but would go substantially faster if done from dulap local
19:35 mircea_popescu chugging along.
19:35 mircea_popescu so do it from local
19:36 asciilifeform aha, wanted to 'combine the pleasurable with the useful' and get fresh sks dump 1st
19:36 asciilifeform then ran into that oddity.
19:36 mircea_popescu it's noted, and thats good enough
19:36 asciilifeform so we ignore the cert spew ?
19:37 mircea_popescu if indeed "they" signed wrong domain, as opposed to matt rude being derpy, we will know down the road.
19:37 mircea_popescu so yeah.
19:37 asciilifeform the interesting aspect is that i get no such thing from own box.
19:37 mircea_popescu this is pretty interesting. lemme see
19:37 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: wget --wait 1 -e robots=off -p -m https://keyserver.mattrude.com/dump/current/
19:37 assbot Index of /dump/current/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT0SXs )
19:37 mircea_popescu !gettrust schmidty
19:37 assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user schmidty: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=mircea_popescu&to=schmidty | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/schmidty/
19:38 mircea_popescu mike_c "The requested URL /wot/trust/ was not found on this server."
19:38 danielpbarron oh it's because he just joined today, and that site updates every 24 hours
19:39 mircea_popescu mike_c oh nm because it's today, soz.
19:39 mircea_popescu right danielpbarron i forgot :p
19:39 schmidty already causing trouble
19:40 mircea_popescu asciilifeform "OpenSSL: error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure"
19:40 asciilifeform l0l!
19:40 asciilifeform on what?
19:40 mircea_popescu http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/145951/cant-wget-from-github-sslv3-handshake-error << apparently known bug.
19:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform on both wget and curl.
19:41 asciilifeform l0ltr0n1c
19:41 asciilifeform but not what we get on dulap.
19:42 mircea_popescu "Now after a lot of research, it appears that there is an incompatibility between OpenSSL < 0.9.8k and OpenSSL 1.0.1."
19:42 mircea_popescu because why not, ssl lv3 is a standard-as-implementred thing.
19:42 * asciilifeform loading locally, will push to dulap - but this is retarded and ought to be addressed
19:43 asciilifeform will post manifest of snapshot
19:43 mircea_popescu basically, "The version of OpenSSL on RHEL5 (and its derivatives) doesn't advertise support for TLS at all. It only does SSLv3 and SSLv2.
19:43 mircea_popescu The version of OpenSSL on RHEL6 (and its derivatives) supports TLS all the way up to TLSv1.2. It also does SSLv3, but it wants to negotiate TLS."
19:43 asciilifeform this still does not explain the 'keys' vs 'keyserver' thing
19:44 mircea_popescu indeed.
19:44 asciilifeform smells verminous.
19:45 mircea_popescu isn't this heap of dung fascinating, that whatever way you turn something oozes ? if only we were phorid flies.
19:45 * asciilifeform chitters inquisitively
19:47 asciilifeform piping locally at ~10M/s
19:50 asciilifeform what is the profit - other than brute sabotage - in fucking with keyservs?
19:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 437081 @ 0.00021384 = 93.4654 BTC [-] {4}
19:50 mircea_popescu im persuaded it's just random breakage at this point.
19:50 asciilifeform 'keyserver' turned into 'keys' and with different fp by chance ?
19:50 asciilifeform lucky cosmic rays?
19:51 mircea_popescu guy changed it for reasons, forgot to update.
19:51 asciilifeform if he changed it, it ought to be changed for planet
19:51 asciilifeform not dulap and (not mybox)
19:51 mircea_popescu prolly should drop him an email. are you or should i ?
19:51 asciilifeform try the url in browser 1st
19:51 asciilifeform which cert you get
19:51 asciilifeform (anyone else? plz)
19:54 mike_c mircea_popescu: ah, yes, I added a better page for not found users, but not on the trust page. will fix.
19:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform why would my browser work any better ? it also fails.
19:55 asciilifeform mike_c: be so kind as to load https://keyserver.mattrude.com/dump/current/ and describe the ssl cert you see
19:55 assbot Index of /dump/current/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT239n )
19:55 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: funnily, works on the boxes here
19:56 mike_c comodo sha256 cert good through 11/15
19:56 asciilifeform fp?
19:56 mike_c KeyID=90 af 6a 3a 94 5a 0b d8 90 ea 12 56 73 df 43 b4 3a 28 da e7
19:56 mike_c thumbprint: 13 d2 41 7e f3 49 a0 5c 4f 75 2a ef e6 10 c5 c4 95 70 2d df
19:57 asciilifeform sha1
19:57 mike_c yes
19:57 asciilifeform what's the sha256 ?
19:57 mike_c 6c be 5c 74 ce 25 a3 83 8c 96 8e fe a9 ec 59 1f 0a 13 8a 7e
19:57 mike_c hm
19:58 mike_c or maybe this? ‎00 b8 d9 04 8e 1d f6 05 6d 9e 3d fa e7 d6 16 4d f9
19:58 trinque F2 D0 E4 FE A2 5B ED F8 DD AC 6E C7 51 30 4A 5C
19:58 trinque B5 C2 59 25 50 BA 33 1C 05 16 B5 A9 B6 92 93 41
19:58 trinque is what I see
19:58 trinque meant to be one line
19:58 mircea_popescu o.O
19:58 asciilifeform i see what trinque saw
19:58 mircea_popescu mike_c your's too short.
19:58 mike_c yeah..
19:58 mircea_popescu sha256 is as long as tringque's.
19:59 mircea_popescu ima curl out of some random boxes now just ot see
19:59 mike_c i've got a public key
19:59 mike_c that help?
20:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/01D6H49
20:01 assbot dpaste: 01D6H49 ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT2sZt )
20:01 asciilifeform i got a snapshot btw
20:02 danielpbarron F2 D0 E4 FE A2 5B ED F8 DD AC 6E C7 51 30 4A 5C B5 C2 59 25 50 BA 33 1C 05 16 B5 A9 B6 92 93 41
20:03 mircea_popescu and keys.mattrude doth not exist.
20:03 asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/2X4QF2C << mine
20:03 assbot dpaste: 2X4QF2C ... ( http://bit.ly/1H2cwGN )
20:04 mike_c those are the same cert, no?
20:05 mircea_popescu seems we're all seeing the same certs.
20:05 mircea_popescu keyserver.matts and matts show the same ; keys.matts and key.matts do not exist. he moved.
20:07 asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/1X7FSYP << on dulap
20:07 assbot dpaste: 1X7FSYP ... ( http://bit.ly/1H2cP4v )
20:08 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123055 << good one lol
20:08 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 20:49:22; fluffypony: lol
20:08 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123058 << actually, romania in this case.
20:08 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 20:51:28; trinque: is this the only political issue in the region, whether to be eaten by the EU or Russia?
20:09 asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/0M8QV5T.txt << signed manifest (by me)
20:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT33dx )
20:09 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123059 << some, yeah, but i dun has teh time these days ;/
20:09 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 20:53:54; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-coruptia-nu-va-putea-fi-niciodata-eliminata/ << any interest in translating this for the non-romanian-speakers like me ?
20:11 mircea_popescu all this derping about "an eight of its gpd" - eh get bent, so that's six week's worth ? get back to work.
20:11 mircea_popescu governments routinely steal 20 years' worth of labour offa people, i don't recall the protests.
20:12 BingoBoingo http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/7.62x39mm/pictures/7.62x39mm-20140531_094618.jpg
20:12 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT3mVK )
20:13 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: lol, chinese rounds ?
20:13 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Yes
20:13 asciilifeform who the fuck buys this
20:14 BingoBoingo No idea
20:14 mircea_popescu !up qntranet
20:14 BingoBoingo Would buy for the box though
20:14 BingoBoingo Hello visitor
20:14 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123089 << eh, you're drastically underestimating the actual distaste for russia among european people. even the ukrs.
20:14 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 21:02:32; ascii_field: when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not.
20:15 asciilifeform under?!
20:15 mircea_popescu yeah.
20:15 asciilifeform considering that i regard ww2 as still on - hard to 'under.'
20:16 mircea_popescu hehe. so yeah, referendum. i dun think it had to be manipulated much.
20:16 mircea_popescu by which i mean, i dun think it needed much more than tv stations, ipads, the usual stuff.
20:16 mircea_popescu just keeping the ru style away, is enough for referendum win.
20:19 mircea_popescu !up SquirtPrincess
20:19 SquirtPrincess thxs <3
20:21 mircea_popescu how goes
20:24 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123101 << the russians wanna maintain form, they can also go back to original muscovy duchy or something :D
20:24 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 21:06:47; trinque: ascii_field: does make all of it sound like russia's trying to maintain form, while nato's trying thwart this as it can
20:24 mircea_popescu original soviet empire was historically the result of the race to asia they had with the uk, and it's certainly not above revisionism.
20:25 mircea_popescu current russia... probably safer. but does not include small russians, caucauss etc.
20:25 * trinque googles it
20:25 trinque seems like this "ethnic russians" thing has been kicking a while
20:26 SquirtPrincess pretty good, u
20:26 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nato program is to cut into bantustans infinitely finely if allowed.
20:26 mircea_popescu certainly.
20:27 mircea_popescu you will note there's nothing nato about it. we intend to do the same thing, to all nato, to china, to russia etc.
20:27 mircea_popescu it's just the reasonable agenda.
20:27 asciilifeform naturally.
20:27 mircea_popescu a buncha countries the size of one.
20:35 mircea_popescu and it is, obviously, for their own good and safety.
20:35 mircea_popescu because if they get large... se umfla tarita-n ei, as the romanian expression goes.
20:35 mircea_popescu the oats the[ir heads] contain become inflamed and they start imagining they may do various stupid shit.
20:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56000 @ 0.00021551 = 12.0686 BTC [+]
20:36 asciilifeform hilariously, orlov & mr mold agree on this precise program in this precise formulation.
20:36 asciilifeform (but, naturally, disagree on the recipe)
20:36 mircea_popescu notrly proposing a recipe myself. wisdom of age :D
20:37 asciilifeform i only know recipe 'wait for corpse to float by'
20:37 BingoBoingo http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning! << Make your own lower reciever without crowdfunding , CNC, or 3D printing!!!
20:37 assbot DIY: Shovel AK - photo tsunami warning! ... ( http://bit.ly/1DT5j4u )
20:37 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: we did this one here
20:37 asciilifeform !s shovel ak
20:37 assbot 0 results for 'shovel ak' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=shovel+ak
20:37 asciilifeform hm.
20:38 mircea_popescu famously, it's what lu zhi did.
20:38 mircea_popescu except not exactly by the side of the river.
20:38 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: We talked about the idea, but I dunno if we got to instructions
20:40 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: there is this very characteristic and endemic derpsyndrome, where folks make the easiest part of a mechanism - whether it is the non-pressurized part of a rifle, or the non-drivery part of an os kernel - and stroke their cocks in self-congratulatory wankbacchanalia
20:40 asciilifeform it needs a name.
20:41 asciilifeform perhaps mircea_popescu can suggest one.
20:41 trinque is that like when gabriel_laddel reads loper-os then screams about lisp at everyone?
20:41 asciilifeform nah that's ordinary drunken bender
20:41 trinque lol
20:42 asciilifeform the shovel handle, kernel, etc. remind of the fable with the drunkard who searched for his lost keys 'where the light is'
20:42 mircea_popescu i thought it was the new jersey approach ?
20:43 asciilifeform new jersey approach is when you do this and then craft the missing but necessary parts out of own shit
20:43 asciilifeform i am referring to the disease where the need for the remaining pieces is not perceived at all - or, if perceived, sufferer is content to crib from somewhere else while pretending he did not include them at all
20:43 asciilifeform (as in the 'rump kernel' example from last night)
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140523 @ 0.0002159 = 30.3389 BTC [+] {2}
20:44 BingoBoingo To be fair to forum muppet he united the shovel handle stock to a lower reciever made from the spade. At least FOR NOW the lower reciever is the purchase restricted part.
20:44 mircea_popescu asciilifeform seems just normal progression.
20:44 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: iirc in most of the planet it is the barrel.
20:45 mircea_popescu replace shit with farts.
20:45 BingoBoingo Just the Cody Wilson fellow proposes the same thing for the AR-15 yet rewuires CNC
20:45 asciilifeform which is logical - most difficult to machine piece.
20:45 BingoBoingo Yes
20:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 218877 @ 0.00022389 = 49.0044 BTC [+] {2}
20:45 BingoBoingo But in USia barrel is roughly as easy to purchase from "Rural King" as shovel
20:45 asciilifeform for now.
20:46 asciilifeform scarcity of barrels (or, more likely, shells) is a 'when' not 'if.'
20:46 mircea_popescu incidentally, china during lu zhi is a very interesting case study. anyone recall the episode when the much more powerful mongols sent an emissary with practically that day's equivalent of PUA wisdom,
20:47 mircea_popescu which pissed her off to the degree she ~wanted~ to declare war. except then she realise the mongols are about three times as strong as the chinese, so instead just wrote humble apology about being old and frail and bald,
20:47 danielpbarron "My awesome and super-collectible Romy kit included kick-ass furniture, like this gas tube with "Mihaela" on it and 12 notches. I don't get it, Mihaela is a Romanian female name and the guy only scored 12 of them."
20:47 mircea_popescu and continued to send over women and money to maintain peace
20:47 mircea_popescu danielpbarron ahaha srsly ?
20:47 danielpbarron from bingo's url
20:48 BingoBoingo Yeah
20:48 mircea_popescu (hint, the fmj habit of naming the gun is not invented in us"
20:48 * danielpbarron names his computers after women of the Bible
20:48 BingoBoingo Usually guns like boats get girly names
20:49 BingoBoingo Ex. Titanic named after his ex's dress size
20:50 asciilifeform 'this is your rifle; that is your gun; this one's for fighting; that one's - for fun.' (TM) (R)
20:51 danielpbarron there are many like it, but this one is mine
20:52 danielpbarron without me, it is useless; without it, I am useless.
20:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18450 @ 0.00021372 = 3.9431 BTC [-]
21:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167600 @ 0.00021413 = 35.8882 BTC [+] {2}
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21:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 173986 @ 0.00022426 = 39.0181 BTC [+] {3}
21:21 decimation asciilifeform: re: valgrind < are you running valgrind on the poor little pogo or on an x86?
21:24 asciilifeform the latter
21:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168173 @ 0.0002261 = 38.0239 BTC [+] {3}
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22:01 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: 3v?
22:01 asciilifeform 3-7
22:01 asciilifeform 3 is the rated.
22:01 asciilifeform observe polarity
22:01 asciilifeform (there is no protection)
22:05 ben_vulpes and it's ground signal power when the thing is pointing up and the shield facing the user?
22:06 decimation ben_vulpes: are you soldering the serial lines to the pogo?
22:06 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: correct
22:06 asciilifeform decimation: he's playing with a cardano rng
22:06 ben_vulpes decimation: nono, entirely different thinger
22:09 decimation asciilifeform: did you order up a batch from that macrofab place?
22:10 asciilifeform decimation: as described in latest broadcast
22:10 asciilifeform but ben_vulpes has one of the early samples.
22:10 decimation excellent news
22:12 asciilifeform in other news, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/26894024/subprocess-check-output-module-object-has-out-attribute-check-output << example of why python needs to die in a fire
22:12 assbot python - subprocess.check_output() module object has out attribute 'check_output' - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1JRqfkM )
22:13 decimation asciilifeform: because they keep dicking around with the standard library?
22:13 decimation 'standard'
22:13 asciilifeform pestilentially.
22:14 decimation yeah, that's really annoying
22:14 decimation I wonder if guido has given up on python 3 yet
22:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67200 @ 0.00021637 = 14.5401 BTC [-]
22:26 decimation http://sealedabstract.com/rants/python-3-is-fine/ < nope, they are still digging their hole. "However one argument that definitely does not work is “you should work on Python 2 because that would make my life as a commercial software developer easier”. The fact that Python 2 and commercial software developers had a symbiotic relationship at all was a happy coincidence, never a goal. The goal was “produce a language that Guido
22:26 assbot Python 3 is fine | Sealed Abstract ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQ8s7c )
22:26 decimation van Rossum and the other volunteer developers enjoy.” "
22:28 decimation ^ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122624
22:28 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 16:43:40; mircea_popescu: "o no, that's what i had really meant to do!11"
22:39 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: ground signal power from left to right, correct?
22:40 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: aha
22:41 asciilifeform (it didn't change since you last asked!)
22:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79075 @ 0.00021748 = 17.1972 BTC [+]
22:41 ben_vulpes well hey i could have been asking about from right to left
22:44 ben_vulpes aha my retardation knows no bounds
22:45 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what's the entropy analysis tool?
22:46 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: take your pick
22:46 asciilifeform 'ent', 'diehard'
22:46 asciilifeform didja actually process the input ?
22:46 ben_vulpes notyet
22:46 ben_vulpes capture, debias, run through diehard/ent?
22:47 asciilifeform aha
22:47 asciilifeform experiment with things such as varying sample rate, etc.
22:47 asciilifeform shield on/off
22:47 asciilifeform use imagination.
22:48 ben_vulpes ofc ofc
22:48 ben_vulpes i just want to make sure my protocol's sound
22:48 ben_vulpes so there's nothing beyond capture and then debias that needs doing for postprocessing?
22:49 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: what did you think there was ?
22:49 ben_vulpes i'm just confirming!
22:50 asciilifeform the one other thing one can reasonably do it distill
22:50 asciilifeform which is to say, xor over a buffer
22:50 asciilifeform *is
22:50 asciilifeform (see 'xor lemma' in logs)
22:51 decimation my grandpa taught me 'round, red, right, ridge' - the 'hot' poem
22:56 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu keys are batch-converting on dulap. after they're done, will be pumped in locally.
22:56 gribble The operation succeeded.
22:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55800 @ 0.00021578 = 12.0405 BTC [-] {2}
23:08 asciilifeform meanwhile...
23:08 asciilifeform http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000091.html
23:08 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KNnbUr )
23:08 asciilifeform achtung, panzers!
23:08 asciilifeform [BTC-dev] Full Orphanage Thermonuke Massif Output (without 'pages as heap' flag)
23:09 scoopbot_revived Phuctor Begins Processing SKS Keyserver Dump http://qntra.net/2015/05/phuctor-begins-processing-sks-keyserver-dump/
23:09 mircea_popescu ha! nice.
23:09 ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: No Such lAbs
23:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform load average: 0.94 << need like 7 more workers ?
23:11 BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Fixd
23:11 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123100 << really, vlasov mostly helped the czechs.
23:11 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 21:06:37; pete_dushenski: who other than vlasov's army helped germans ? and why were they spared ?
23:15 mod6 <+asciilifeform> [BTC-dev] Full Orphanage Thermonuke Massif Output (without 'pages as heap' flag) << thanks asciilifeform!!
23:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123111 << is this where they covered the chinese in grad fired missiles ?
23:16 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 21:09:31; ascii_field: (damansk)
23:17 mircea_popescu it's an important point, perhaps where the chinese got the idea that they should center their force around rocketry.
23:18 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123122 << there's no such thing as "defensive". it simply means 'our weapons', as opposed to the enemy's (those are offensive).
23:18 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 21:11:51; jurov: ru ever tried to ship defensive systems to cuba?
23:19 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123137 << the only response to independence, from the point of view of self-appointed "master of the universe", is "trying to bleed them out". obviously.
23:19 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 21:15:40; jurov: trying to bleed ru out, again
23:20 mircea_popescu the alternative would be to learn to live with fragmented sovereignity, which would require giving up pretty much everything the west has come to stand on.
23:20 mircea_popescu such as the idea that their sexual preferences are given by god.
23:21 ben_vulpes dieharder requires gsl-devel
23:21 decimation asciilifeform: your massif dump has c++ standard vector bullshit
23:21 * ben_vulpes dives into entropy quest
23:23 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123167 << the only lulzy thing here is just how broke cantor fitzgerald is these days.
23:23 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 21:42:45; pete_dushenski: 'gtbc' update : cantor fitzgerald has a 100 share buy order for at $25.00. 52wk range: $37.98 - $94.86. heh.
23:24 mircea_popescu seriously, ten bitcoins ? what did they do, make every woman in the office show me her tits ?
23:25 mircea_popescu Submissions:6590 ftr.
23:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57450 @ 0.00021215 = 12.188 BTC [-] {2}
23:29 ben_vulpes error "Please use <stdarg.h> instead of <varargs.h>"
23:29 ben_vulpes great.
23:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1123223 << me chuckles at vice.
23:30 assbot Logged on 06-05-2015 22:49:48; cazalla: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/unless-everyone-using-bitcoin-makes-this-radical-change-the-currency-will-die (block size limit rubbish)
23:30 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes getting that shit to compile is god's work. i imagine alf's set is untouched since 1993 and probably the last tiem anyone actually compiled it was back when paris hilton was still a virgin
23:32 danielpbarron http://shitco.in/2015/05/07/bitfinex-appears-to-have-crossed-streams-btc-crash-on-hold/
23:32 assbot shitco.in | BitFinex Appears To Have Crossed Streams, BTC Crash On Hold ... ( http://bit.ly/1dOM0EA )
23:32 mircea_popescu seriously, how inept do they need to be, these people. "unless everyone X currency will die" is ~exactly~ the wrong thing to say. everyone will not, currency will not die, now suddenly vice has [even more] egg on its face.
23:32 mircea_popescu it's like... they're so stupid and trying to hard they're just giving me free gains.
23:32 mircea_popescu danielpbarron bitfinex was at no point in its existence anything but a [very thinly veiled] scam.
23:32 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: did you compile dieharder?
23:33 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i didn't run it, either.
23:33 mircea_popescu but by "god's work" i mean, a very good thing to do.
23:33 danielpbarron i'm more interested in the site reporting it; who is this mike1337?
23:33 decimation wow vice is really at the cutting edge of responsible journalism
23:33 mircea_popescu !s mike1337
23:33 assbot 0 results for 'mike1337' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=mike1337
23:33 mircea_popescu name's actually vaguely familiar, intel must have had him in something or the other.
23:33 danielpbarron who also calls himself "goat" (same goat as on forum?)
23:34 mircea_popescu nope
23:34 asciilifeform <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform load average: 0.94 << need like 7 more workers ? << 1) still converting 2) we're a serial operation, thinkaboutit
23:34 mircea_popescu ow shit.
23:35 asciilifeform <decimation> asciilifeform: your massif dump has c++ standard vector bullshit << sure does
23:35 asciilifeform uncensored sewage, aha
23:35 decimation asciilifeform: std_vector is one of those things that c++philes love (it just works!!), but when examined - contains refined turd juice
23:36 asciilifeform <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes getting that shit to compile is god's work. i imagine alf's set is untouched since 1993... l0l:
23:36 asciilifeform stas@humanoid ~ $ ls -l /usr/portage/distfiles/dieharder-3.31.1.tgz
23:36 asciilifeform -rw-rw-r-- 1 portage portage 1149780 Oct 14 2011 /usr/portage/distfiles/dieharder-3.31.1.tgz
23:37 decimation for instance, with std_vector, try resizing a vector without initializing the elements
23:37 mircea_popescu asciilifeform a, not bad
23:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24141 @ 0.00021214 = 5.1213 BTC [-]
23:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60792 @ 0.00021748 = 13.221 BTC [+]
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 192857 @ 0.00022579 = 43.5452 BTC [+] {3}
23:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171843 @ 0.00022666 = 38.9499 BTC [+]
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