| 00:00 |
asciilifeform |
and yes, it started with eu 'rohs' mandate for lead-free. |
| 00:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3307 @ 0.00035807 = 1.1841 BTC [-] |
| 00:06 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: reference counting... [david moon tale] ...but sure, it'd be great if it worked << there are quite a few systems which used reference-counting in garbage collector (other than in the demented c++ and apple systems, it is generally used in a garbage collector to determine 'what's garbage?'.) appears in, e.g., wolfram's 'mathematica.' down side: cannot have circular data structures. |
| 00:06 |
asciilifeform |
well, not merely circular, but self-referential in any form |
| 00:06 |
asciilifeform |
they will not get collected - ever. |
| 00:07 |
asciilifeform |
because - elementarily - reference count never nulls! |
| 00:07 |
asciilifeform |
hence the david moon anecdote. |
| 00:07 |
jurov |
thestringpuller: MPEx may one day allow redditards to buy coffee << lawl |
| 00:07 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: last i checked, they are already able to buy coffee, lol |
| 00:08 |
asciilifeform |
MPEx may one day -prohibit- redditards from buying coffee! |
| 00:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00036925 = 4.431 BTC [+] |
| 00:10 |
jurov |
;;later tell mike_c most qntra shares in coinbr custody was claimed and afaik sold already. And I promised 14 day delivery of the rest on request, so prolly not what you want |
| 00:10 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
the apple gpu thing is a true plague |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
and the repairs -are a scam- |
| 00:21 |
asciilifeform |
they give you a board with the same ticking bomb |
| 00:22 |
asciilifeform |
whatdidjathink, they'd run a one-off with leaded solder just for you? |
| 00:22 |
asciilifeform |
because of some lawsuit ? |
| 00:22 |
asciilifeform |
and the comments on the article are blood-boiling |
| 00:22 |
asciilifeform |
'who cares about 4 y.o. machines' |
| 00:23 |
asciilifeform |
i buy hardware, it is expected to last for 15-20 yrs. |
| 00:23 |
asciilifeform |
if it doesn't - that is to say, doesn't match fucking 1980s state of the art - it's a turd. |
| 00:23 |
asciilifeform |
and should be sold to coprophagiacs specially labeled. |
| 00:24 |
asciilifeform |
it was precisely the gpu thing that cured me of the 'omg only apple knows how to make Quality Hardware' (tm) |
| 00:25 |
asciilifeform |
and not only gpu; |
| 00:25 |
asciilifeform |
colleague of mine bought a $3k 'macbook' a few mo. ago |
| 00:25 |
asciilifeform |
the screen developed a hairline crack right in front of my eyes |
| 00:25 |
asciilifeform |
apple wouldn't refund. |
| 00:25 |
asciilifeform |
'it was something you did' |
| 00:27 |
asciilifeform |
and sure, he could join a class-action and possibly get $10 seven years later. |
| 00:27 |
asciilifeform |
big fucking whoop. |
| 00:28 |
asciilifeform |
the 'secret' is that *no one* is making quality hardware. but apple is the most egregious sc4mz0r, for continuing to maintain the pretense. |
| 00:28 |
asciilifeform |
on the strength of a reputation that has long been entirely, thoroughly baseless. |
| 00:29 |
jurov |
i once won a free ipod mini from ibm...that thing recharged longer than played |
| 00:29 |
thestringpuller |
jurov: ah the nightly recharge of the ipod |
| 00:29 |
thestringpuller |
makes me think of high school. charging that thing each night |
| 00:29 |
thestringpuller |
before school. |
| 00:32 |
asciilifeform |
'My wife got through her Master's on a G3 iBook, and we paid to have its motherboard replaced twice for the same graphics issue, a little over a year apart. Having to pay for the first repair sucked, but sometimes those are the odds. Having to pay to repair it a second time due to identical symptoms a couple of months after the initial repair warranty was up was a kick in the teeth, and was a good indicator that there was some |
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| 00:32 |
asciilifeform |
thing fundamentally wrong.' |
| 00:32 |
asciilifeform |
^ thoroughly typical |
| 00:32 |
asciilifeform |
for the record, it is very important to understand why folks put up with this. |
| 00:32 |
asciilifeform |
it is specifically, and entirely, |
| 00:32 |
asciilifeform |
to avoid winblows. |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
i suspect that a sizable majority of apple users, if offered the choice between using winblows and being buggered with a thermos, complete with handle, every night, |
| 00:33 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: are you familiar with giant douche vs turd sandwich? |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
would take the thermos smiling |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
and without hesitation. |
| 00:33 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: ? |
| 00:34 |
asciilifeform |
i imagine it's an archetypical 'good cop/bad cop' duo |
| 00:34 |
thestringpuller |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche_and_Turd << no its essentially having to choose between giant douche or turd sandwich |
| 00:34 |
asciilifeform |
!s fork in the eye |
| 00:35 |
assbot |
3 results for 'fork in the eye' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fork+in+the+eye |
| 00:35 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller i have no idea what that is. what's a reddit gold ? a dollar ? 2 ? 10 ? |
| 00:36 |
mircea_popescu |
!up chatquack |
| 00:36 |
* |
chatquack wabes |
| 00:36 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: 30 bucks for a year |
| 00:37 |
* |
asciilifeform chatquack wabes << gyres and gymbles |
| 00:37 |
thestringpuller |
or 4 bucks a month |
| 00:37 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform but you dunno to begin with wtf data strcutres its gonna have. |
| 00:37 |
chatquack |
*pours mircea_popescu some honey mead* |
| 00:37 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu is correct |
| 00:37 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: on systems with reference-counting, users are normally barred from directly manipulating cons cells |
| 00:38 |
asciilifeform |
which would be, on such systems, the only means for crafting a self-referential data structure |
| 00:38 |
asciilifeform |
mega-lulz when they pop the hood and succeed anyway |
| 00:38 |
asciilifeform |
creating eternal turds that never get collected |
| 00:39 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: looks like I provided 4 bucks. |
| 00:39 |
thestringpuller |
wait nvm 30 |
| 00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform> to avoid winblows. << it could be because they don't givew so much of a shit about the money. if he/she could afford a pointless masters, |
| 00:39 |
thestringpuller |
:( |
| 00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
they can afford a pointless "repair" |
| 00:39 |
mircea_popescu |
;;calc 30*24*60 / 216 * 30 |
| 00:39 |
gribble |
6000 |
| 00:40 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller reddit runs out of 6k a month worth of servers ? impressive if true. |
| 00:40 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: it isn't about the money. talk to a 30+ year apple user. the kind that stuck to it 'through thick and thin' |
| 00:40 |
asciilifeform |
it's about the get-the-microshit-out-of-my-fucking-face-i-dont-care-what |
| 00:40 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: I wouln'dt be surprised cause shits always going down. |
| 00:41 |
mircea_popescu |
chatquack i just went through home made cherry brandy, im full up on sweet liquor |
| 00:42 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform so i fail to see how "reference counting" is any sort of anything resembling a solution nor c etc demented for not having it. |
| 00:42 |
chatquack |
Oh I bet! Sounds tasty though |
| 00:42 |
asciilifeform |
c doesn't do the garbage collection thing at all |
| 00:42 |
mircea_popescu |
well cause it can't be fucking done. |
| 00:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i can follow that logic there. "for ten cents we can't be bothered, write your own damned card" |
| 00:43 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: beg to differ. there are very good algos for garbage collection with hard real-time guarantees. they are complicated and i know of no system other than common lisp where they are implemented with any quality. |
| 00:43 |
mircea_popescu |
so there you go. |
| 00:43 |
asciilifeform |
typically one has multiple levels of storage for objects with different ranges of expected lifetime |
| 00:43 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. a 'nursery' |
| 00:44 |
asciilifeform |
from which objs are promoted, optionally |
| 00:44 |
asciilifeform |
etc |
| 00:44 |
mircea_popescu |
i think you see my point. well "my". porobably the oldest point in computing. |
| 00:45 |
asciilifeform |
the ultimate mega-death-star reference work on the subject is 'garbage collection algorithms for automatic dynamic memory management' (r. jones & r. d. lins) |
| 00:45 |
asciilifeform |
^^^^^ recommended |
| 00:45 |
asciilifeform |
to anyone who gives half a fuck |
| 00:45 |
asciilifeform |
in fact, i dare say it is the only good work on the subject in dead tree. |
| 00:46 |
asciilifeform |
but yes, garbage collection will have a terrible reputation for at least another half century on account of the state-of-the-art half a century ago when john mccarthy invented it, 'stop the world' |
| 00:46 |
asciilifeform |
literally, like keeping two flats, occasionally taking useful objects from one to the other, then setting off dynamite in the old flat. |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
'stop the world' is also called 'semispace' |
| 00:47 |
mircea_popescu |
everything should be dereferenced every 1337th instruction |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
!s semispace |
| 00:47 |
assbot |
3 results for 'semispace' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=semispace |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
^ we did it |
| 00:47 |
mircea_popescu |
that way, it defnitely fits in head. |
| 00:47 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
| 00:48 |
mircea_popescu |
"how long is a program ?" "that depends. on 64 bit registers, roughly 21kb |
| 00:50 |
asciilifeform |
i'll add that neither 'mark and sweep' (stop-the-world in its basic form) nor 'reference counting' are necessary on a dataflow machine |
| 00:51 |
asciilifeform |
where you can determine precisely what objects are live simply by... forming electric circuit (yes) from the root node |
| 00:51 |
asciilifeform |
and whoever 'lights up' is live. |
| 00:52 |
asciilifeform |
obligatory: |
| 00:52 |
asciilifeform |
!s spaghetti sort |
| 00:52 |
assbot |
1 results for 'spaghetti sort' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=spaghetti+sort |
| 00:52 |
asciilifeform |
^^^ wtf!!!! stemming is back! |
| 00:53 |
asciilifeform |
die stemming, die |
| 00:53 |
asciilifeform |
http://everything2.com/title/spaghetti+sort |
| 00:53 |
assbot |
spaghetti sort - Everything2.com ... ( http://bit.ly/17mLhXC ) |
| 00:53 |
mircea_popescu |
how is it stemmed ? |
| 00:53 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: look at the result |
| 00:53 |
asciilifeform |
does the string 'spaghetti sort' occur in it ? |
| 00:53 |
mircea_popescu |
sort-of ? that's proper break |
| 00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
but it never was strict sting, it was boith words. |
| 00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
you want quotes. |
| 00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
!s 'spaghetti sort' |
| 00:54 |
assbot |
1 results for ''spaghetti sort'' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%27spaghetti+sort%27 |
| 00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
!s "spaghetti sort" |
| 00:54 |
assbot |
0 results for '"spaghetti sort"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22spaghetti+sort%22 |
| 00:54 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 00:54 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu is correct |
| 00:54 |
mircea_popescu |
you want " quotes specifically. |
| 00:55 |
asciilifeform |
back to thread, momentarily, before i nod off to sleep; certain problems (i dare say most of the 'big ones') in algorithms magically dissipate when you burn the retarded von neumann thing |
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| 00:57 |
asciilifeform |
for real life implementations of 'spaghetti sort', see adi shamir's 'twinkle' and 'twirl' machines. |
| 00:57 |
asciilifeform |
(i'm nearly certain we did these here) |
| 00:58 |
asciilifeform |
in a von neumann machine, you'd have to individually address and ask each cell what its output is, to take the sum, like a total idiot |
| 00:59 |
mircea_popescu |
is shamir still working on those light machines ? |
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| 00:59 |
asciilifeform |
in 'twinkle', you just have a led in each and a phototransistor on top. |
| 00:59 |
asciilifeform |
ask him. |
| 00:59 |
* |
asciilifeform never saw shamir alive and doesn't expect to, iirc he was perma-banned from usa |
| 00:59 |
mircea_popescu |
was he ? |
| 01:00 |
asciilifeform |
http://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2013/10/shamir |
| 01:00 |
assbot |
Cryptographer Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending NSA History Conference ... ( http://bit.ly/17mLJVM ) |
| 01:00 |
mircea_popescu |
mebbe we should ask adlai to pay him a visit ? do an interview for qntra |
| 01:01 |
asciilifeform |
see also comments |
| 01:01 |
asciilifeform |
for other banned folks |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131016/10282624900/how-government-blocked-expert-attending-its-own-cryptology-symposium.shtml << moar |
| 01:02 |
assbot |
How The Government Blocked An Expert From Attending Its Own Cryptology Symposium | Techdirt ... ( http://bit.ly/17mLSIV ) |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
'In July 2013 I told the NSA-affiliated conference organizers that I was having some problems in getting my visa, and gently asked whether they could do something about it. Always eager to help, the NSA people leaped into action, and immediately sent me a short email written with a lot of tact: The trouble you are having is regrettable
Sorry you wont be able to come to our conference. We have submitted our program and |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
did not include you on it. |
| 01:02 |
asciilifeform |
' |
| 01:03 |
mircea_popescu |
In my humble opinion, we are heading toward a disaster, and I have heard many people, among them our top scientists, saying that they are not willing anymore to visit the US, and collaborate with American scientists, because of the difficulties. |
| 01:03 |
mircea_popescu |
heg |
| 01:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00036925 = 13.4038 BTC [+] |
| 01:03 |
pete_dushenski |
aw i missed adam_obrien's cherry popping |
| 01:05 |
mircea_popescu |
"As a friend of the US I am deeply worried that if you continue to delay visas in such a way, the only thing you will achieve is to alienate many world-famous foreign scientists, forcing them to increase their cooperation with European or Chinese scientists whose countries roll the red carpet for such visits. " |
| 01:05 |
mircea_popescu |
heh. |
| 01:06 |
mircea_popescu |
"why get now for free what you won't be able to afford later on ?!?!?!!?" |
| 01:06 |
pete_dushenski |
us just wants to bury its head in the sand |
| 01:06 |
asciilifeform |
'we don't need no stinking jew crypto here in the reich' |
| 01:06 |
* |
mircea_popescu tries real hard to imagine the next generation shamir putting to paper the 'friend of the us' string. |
| 01:06 |
asciilifeform |
that was probably a first and a last. |
| 01:06 |
mircea_popescu |
hegel and shaw were great friends of the third reich, |
| 01:07 |
mircea_popescu |
but who in the 60s said the same ? |
| 01:07 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform:it's about the get-the-microshit-out-of-my-fucking-face-i-dont-care-what << now, as ever |
| 01:07 |
asciilifeform |
iirc pete_dushenski is a hereditary apple user, ought to deeply grok this ^ |
| 01:07 |
pete_dushenski |
lol jew crypto! |
| 01:08 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform your memory serves you well. |
| 01:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37135 @ 0.00036925 = 13.7121 BTC [+] |
| 01:08 |
asciilifeform |
i'm friends with several folks like that in meatspace |
| 01:08 |
asciilifeform |
and thereby know |
| 01:08 |
pete_dushenski |
and while the new stuff is faster, it certainly isn't built to last |
| 01:08 |
pete_dushenski |
the screen on this 'air' is already mroe borked than us science |
| 01:08 |
pete_dushenski |
not 2 years old |
| 01:09 |
asciilifeform |
the only apple box currently in my collection is a circa-'09 'air' |
| 01:09 |
asciilifeform |
it is very well preserved but survived a burst (yes) battery |
| 01:09 |
pete_dushenski |
6 year old al macbook is slow, but a bit weighed down with junk, still mechanically solid |
| 01:09 |
pete_dushenski |
burst! |
| 01:09 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 01:10 |
asciilifeform |
looked like a botulismed tin can |
| 01:10 |
asciilifeform |
the whole machine! |
| 01:10 |
pete_dushenski |
don't eat it! |
| 01:10 |
asciilifeform |
keys discorged from kbd, etc |
| 01:10 |
asciilifeform |
*disgorged |
| 01:10 |
asciilifeform |
vendor repair for a few hundy, iirc |
| 01:10 |
asciilifeform |
included new kbd and chassis |
| 01:10 |
pete_dushenski |
!gettrust adam_obrien |
| 01:10 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user adam_obrien: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/pete_dushenski/adam_obrien | http://w.b-a.link/user/adam_obrien |
| 01:11 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform not bad. |
| 01:11 |
pete_dushenski |
i think a new screen will run about 200 for this air |
| 01:11 |
pete_dushenski |
procrastinating... |
| 01:12 |
pete_dushenski |
mostly because i'm annoyed |
| 01:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://41.media.tumblr.com/40c900a0b6e296ee104f65275903124f/tumblr_ncoltiHwzR1rdc5oto1_400.jpg << anyone know that signature ? |
| 01:12 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/18e6wMk ) |
| 01:12 |
asciilifeform |
what vintage air ? |
| 01:12 |
asciilifeform |
i've a dead one with intact lcd. |
| 01:12 |
pete_dushenski |
2013 air |
| 01:12 |
asciilifeform |
standard res ? |
| 01:12 |
pete_dushenski |
ya |
| 01:12 |
asciilifeform |
find if part is compatible with circa 2010 |
| 01:13 |
pete_dushenski |
kk |
| 01:13 |
asciilifeform |
if yes, gpggram a post box addr and i'll mail you. |
| 01:13 |
asciilifeform |
itching to get rid of that thing to good use, it's cluttering up my machine shop |
| 01:13 |
jurov |
http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/20-02-2015/129881-minsk_munich-0/ lol. i can't even.. |
| 01:13 |
assbot |
Minsk and Munich: History repeats itself - English pravda.ru ... ( http://bit.ly/18e6GmV ) |
| 01:13 |
asciilifeform |
the bottom half is melted |
| 01:13 |
asciilifeform |
into heap of slag |
| 01:14 |
asciilifeform |
but lcd ought to work |
| 01:14 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform danke for the offer at least! |
| 01:14 |
* |
pete_dushenski still digging |
| 01:16 |
asciilifeform |
i'm actually the only person i know who keeps an apple box 'for testing xxxx on apple once in a blue moon' without sitting on it all the time |
| 01:16 |
asciilifeform |
somehow this is simply not done... |
| 01:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00036925 = 1.6247 BTC [+] |
| 01:23 |
pete_dushenski |
i have an old apple box or two that is blue mooning |
| 01:24 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform ok, so here's the air display situation: if you have the 1280x800 screen, i'm out of luck, if you have the 1440x900 then we're good! |
| 01:24 |
asciilifeform |
sadly it's the former. |
| 01:25 |
pete_dushenski |
myeah |
| 01:25 |
asciilifeform |
(it being the original series) |
| 01:25 |
pete_dushenski |
just our luck eh |
| 01:25 |
asciilifeform |
eh well. |
| 01:25 |
pete_dushenski |
thx for the offer though |
| 01:25 |
asciilifeform |
np |
| 01:26 |
asciilifeform |
if anybody else here wants it, mail me. |
| 01:26 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, it died of nvidia gpu |
| 01:26 |
asciilifeform |
bottom is molten slag because i tried the traditional hot air reflow machine repair method |
| 01:27 |
asciilifeform |
and couldn't be arsed to take the mobo out beforehand |
| 01:27 |
asciilifeform |
and overcooked it a wee bit. |
| 01:28 |
pete_dushenski |
jurov lol oh pravda... |
| 01:28 |
asciilifeform |
had to issue pet new box. |
| 01:28 |
asciilifeform |
комсомольская правда! |
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| 01:28 |
pete_dushenski |
what'd you replace it with ? |
| 01:29 |
asciilifeform |
☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭ |
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| 01:29 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: similar |
| 01:29 |
thestringpuller |
all these unicode characters! |
| 01:29 |
thestringpuller |
pete_dushenski: i bought a car lol. |
| 01:29 |
thestringpuller |
Subaru. not quite a saddam. |
| 01:30 |
pete_dushenski |
a nice! |
| 01:30 |
pete_dushenski |
saving the volvo idea for later ? |
| 01:30 |
* |
asciilifeform used to have a 'subaru' |
| 01:30 |
thestringpuller |
d00d was telling me about forrester he sold that had 400k miles on it |
| 01:30 |
thestringpuller |
and was still running, had been driven all over the country |
| 01:30 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, there is no firm 'subaru' |
| 01:30 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform that bit of russian gets spit out as "tvnz" by google translate |
| 01:30 |
asciilifeform |
there is only fuji heavy industries. |
| 01:30 |
thestringpuller |
pete_dushenski: saving the volvo idea for later << can't find one that's bene taken care of |
| 01:31 |
pete_dushenski |
;;later tell kakobrekla please to add !translate function to assbot wish list. |
| 01:31 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 01:32 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform of which toyota owns a chunk |
| 01:32 |
pete_dushenski |
thestringpuller not so surprising really |
| 01:33 |
* |
asciilifeform is not 'car guy' despite - or perhaps because of? - spending a rather extraordinary amount of time in cars |
| 01:33 |
pete_dushenski |
!rate adam_obrien 3 the kid can hustle. cad-btc broker. |
| 01:33 |
assbot |
Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/ed6e644feaa308c5 |
| 01:34 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform sorta like taxi drivers aren't "car guys" |
| 01:34 |
pete_dushenski |
per se |
| 01:34 |
asciilifeform |
sorta |
| 01:35 |
* |
asciilifeform drove on what must've been a 20km solid strip of ice today |
| 01:35 |
pete_dushenski |
drove or was driven ? |
| 01:35 |
asciilifeform |
the former |
| 01:36 |
asciilifeform |
driven lol |
| 01:36 |
asciilifeform |
whos gonna |
| 01:36 |
asciilifeform |
the woman - doesn't drive |
| 01:37 |
pete_dushenski |
orly ? no license even ? |
| 01:37 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 01:37 |
asciilifeform |
believe or not there are such people |
| 01:37 |
asciilifeform |
in modern day |
| 01:37 |
* |
pete_dushenski fuming at 'air' now. $450-600 for new display! |
| 01:38 |
pete_dushenski |
sure, i just thought they mostly lived in montreal |
| 01:38 |
asciilifeform |
apple tax (tm) |
| 01:38 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: iirc it is possible to forgo cars in montreal |
| 01:38 |
pete_dushenski |
very much so |
| 01:38 |
pete_dushenski |
one of the only places on the continent |
| 01:39 |
pete_dushenski |
i should say, one of the only that i'd live in and not have need for car |
| 01:39 |
pete_dushenski |
so it's 1) real city, 2) pleasant (for me), 3) doesn't require car |
| 01:40 |
* |
asciilifeform went there, once, as a schoolboy |
| 01:40 |
pete_dushenski |
nyc is 1 and 3, not 2 |
| 01:40 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform school trip ? |
| 01:40 |
* |
asciilifeform for some reason only remembers the chinese quarter with the monstrous fish hanging in the market |
| 01:40 |
asciilifeform |
with spike |
| 01:40 |
asciilifeform |
nah not school, went with family for kicks |
| 01:40 |
asciilifeform |
just because we could |
| 01:41 |
pete_dushenski |
hey why not |
| 01:42 |
pete_dushenski |
!v assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.adam_obrien.3:2dcac74653866d7b577b42d50842fd1c1258e54ebd97872ccff075cdfb32fb26 |
| 01:42 |
assbot |
Successfully added a rating of 3 for adam_obrien with note: the kid can hustle. cad-btc broker. |
| 01:43 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform did/do you have siblings ? |
| 01:43 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 01:43 |
asciilifeform |
brother |
| 01:44 |
pete_dushenski |
heh i somehow imagined that you had all this time as a youf to diddle computers because you were an only child! |
| 01:44 |
asciilifeform |
l0l no. |
| 01:45 |
asciilifeform |
elder brother, led me to the sinful life. |
| 01:46 |
asciilifeform |
but more clever than i - he has virtually no net presence at all. |
| 01:47 |
pete_dushenski |
how is ignoring the best first largest cult 'more clever' ? |
| 01:47 |
pete_dushenski |
other than less gasenwagen |
| 01:47 |
asciilifeform |
mainly ^ |
| 01:47 |
pete_dushenski |
he won't have a chance to be teh gwagon driver though! |
| 01:47 |
pete_dushenski |
when we put the shoe on the other foot |
| 01:48 |
pete_dushenski |
WHEN i tell you. |
| 01:48 |
pete_dushenski |
heh |
| 01:49 |
asciilifeform |
obligatory: |
| 01:49 |
asciilifeform |
http://orwell.ru/library/articles/revenge/english/e_revso |
| 01:49 |
assbot |
George Orwell: Revenge is Sour ... ( http://bit.ly/18e7V5A ) |
| 01:49 |
* |
asciilifeform for the record, does not agree with mr. o |
| 01:49 |
asciilifeform |
on this subject |
| 01:49 |
pete_dushenski |
http://dpaste.com/32BQMT1.txt << lulzy btc-e phish i just received |
| 01:49 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/18e7Yyk ) |
| 01:49 |
asciilifeform |
but the piece is relevant |
| 01:49 |
pete_dushenski |
with "btc-e wallet.rar" attachment |
| 01:51 |
thestringpuller |
lol. i've noticed a slight pattern. |
| 01:51 |
thestringpuller |
pete is most active in #b-a after writing an article |
| 01:51 |
thestringpuller |
got this pavlov goin on here. saw your name pete, and subconciously refreshed tab with your blog in it. voila new article. ;) |
| 01:52 |
asciilifeform |
i've always wondered if vonnegut wrote the leather suitcase strap scene in his 'mother night' after reading that orwell piece |
| 01:52 |
pete_dushenski |
thestringpuller lol except that was from this morning! |
| 01:52 |
pete_dushenski |
like 15 hours ago |
| 01:52 |
asciilifeform |
it's similar to the point of being misfiled together in my head |
| 01:52 |
pete_dushenski |
but yes, the routine is something like 1) publish, 2) self-scoop, 3) catch-up |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
Mengel was speaking of Rudolf Franz Hoess, the commandant of the extermination camp |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
at Auschwitz. In his tender care, literally millions of Jews were gassed. Mengel knew a little |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
about Hoess. Before emigrating to Israel in 1947, Mengel helped to hang Hoess. |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
And he didn't do it with testimony, either. He did it with his two big hands. 'When Hoess |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
was hanged,' he told me, 'the strap around his ankles I put that on and made it tight' |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
'Did that give you a lot of satisfaction?' I said. |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
'No,' he said, 'I was like almost everybody who came through that war.' |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
'What do you mean?' I said. 'I got so I couldn't feel anything,' said Mengel. 'Every job was |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
a job to do, and no job was any better or any worse than any other.' |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
'After we finished hanging Hoess,' Mengel said to me, 'I packed up my clothes to go home. |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
The catch on my suitcase was broken, so I buckled it shut with a big leather strap. Twice |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
within an hour I did the very same job once to Hoess and once to my suitcase. Both jobs |
| 01:53 |
asciilifeform |
felt about the same.' |
| 01:54 |
pete_dushenski |
makes sense |
| 01:54 |
pete_dushenski |
(from the armchair) |
| 01:54 |
pete_dushenski |
depends on one's own disposition too |
| 01:54 |
asciilifeform |
http://schoolsites.schoolworld.com/schools/Cheltenham/webpages/rwilman/files/kurt%20vonnegut%20-%20mother%20night.pdf << l33t w4r3z copy |
| 01:54 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/18e8dtk ) |
| 01:54 |
pete_dushenski |
do you give a shit when you see roadkill ? |
| 01:55 |
asciilifeform |
i'm told that in subsaharan africa, human roadkill is sop |
| 01:55 |
asciilifeform |
as in, no one stops to clean it up or id it |
| 01:55 |
asciilifeform |
just not anybody's business. |
| 01:55 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: your stories make me never want to go to jail. |
| 01:55 |
asciilifeform |
it goes flatter, spins around now&then |
| 01:56 |
thestringpuller |
i mean no one wants to go to jail. but your stories REALLY make me not want to go to jail |
| 01:56 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: and i'm not even in the jail |
| 01:56 |
* |
asciilifeform has not even yet been in the jail |
| 01:56 |
asciilifeform |
so which stories |
| 01:56 |
pete_dushenski |
you have a lot less time to fuck around worry about someone else's problems in a country where there's not 50x more wealth than needed for sustenance. |
| 01:57 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: i can only guess at why they do, but the human roadkill thing isn't so surprising |
| 01:57 |
pete_dushenski |
it isn't to me either |
| 01:58 |
pete_dushenski |
there's >1bn 'lives' in africa |
| 01:58 |
pete_dushenski |
yet less productive output than the northern tip of israel |
| 01:58 |
* |
asciilifeform kicks a small crate labelev 'nuvoton' |
| 01:59 |
* |
asciilifeform shoves a larger crate of israeli gas masks |
| 01:59 |
* |
asciilifeform looks for manufactured object from africa in room, can't find |
| 02:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00036402 = 9.9377 BTC [-] |
| 02:01 |
pete_dushenski |
precisement |
| 02:01 |
* |
pete_dushenski guesses that asciilifeform isn't much for aesthetic diamonds |
| 02:02 |
* |
asciilifeform has a diamond cutoff wheel somewhere |
| 02:02 |
pete_dushenski |
or 50-year-old pianos |
| 02:02 |
asciilifeform |
actually |
| 02:02 |
asciilifeform |
i've a sack of piano keys, circa 1890 |
| 02:02 |
pete_dushenski |
elephant keys! |
| 02:02 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 02:02 |
asciilifeform |
but then could even count the tantalum in capacitors |
| 02:02 |
asciilifeform |
i was specifically looking for manufactured goods |
| 02:03 |
pete_dushenski |
not more roadkill |
| 02:03 |
asciilifeform |
if vegetable, mineral - can probably turn up a dozen |
| 02:03 |
asciilifeform |
(why piano keys - story for another day) |
| 02:03 |
pete_dushenski |
africa: come for the adventure, leave with the roadkill |
| 02:03 |
asciilifeform |
stay as the roadkill |
| 02:04 |
asciilifeform |
depending how the dice fall |
| 02:04 |
pete_dushenski |
if you're traveling to africa, you can probably afford to stay out of the anonymous ditch |
| 02:04 |
asciilifeform |
obligatory mega-classic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/924795/posts |
| 02:04 |
assbot |
Let Africa Sink ... ( http://bit.ly/18e8vAl ) |
| 02:05 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform aha i recall reading that while writing this: http://www.contravex.com/2014/11/21/why-are-you-in-such-a-huff-all-i-said-was-we-should-think-about-quarantining-africa/ |
| 02:05 |
assbot |
Why Are You In Such A Huff? All I Said Was “We Should Think About Quarantining Africa” | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/18e8xbi ) |
| 02:06 |
pete_dushenski |
in the olden days when ebola was scary... |
| 02:06 |
pete_dushenski |
all of 3 months ago ? |
| 02:06 |
asciilifeform |
would be interesting to know where it went |
| 02:06 |
asciilifeform |
for all i know, it rages still somewhere in midwest |
| 02:06 |
asciilifeform |
amidst news blackout |
| 02:07 |
asciilifeform |
or, alternatively, 'politicians want to live too' and quietly orders were given |
| 02:07 |
pete_dushenski |
eh if news is leaking out of ukraine, it can find its way out of midwestia |
| 02:07 |
asciilifeform |
the stopper on ua bottle - in english - is nearly airtight |
| 02:08 |
pete_dushenski |
i call baloney |
| 02:08 |
pete_dushenski |
what is this, 1950 ? |
| 02:08 |
pete_dushenski |
950 ? |
| 02:08 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: care to show counter-example ? |
| 02:09 |
asciilifeform |
as in, who - other than orlov - is spilling the beans in engl. ? |
| 02:09 |
pete_dushenski |
tlp, mp |
| 02:09 |
asciilifeform |
tlp ? |
| 02:10 |
pete_dushenski |
hell, fox news |
| 02:10 |
asciilifeform |
lol srsly ? |
| 02:10 |
pete_dushenski |
not that seriously, but not that jokingly either |
| 02:10 |
pete_dushenski |
the last psychiatrist, chris ballas |
| 02:10 |
asciilifeform |
i know who |
| 02:10 |
asciilifeform |
but thought he disappeared a while ago |
| 02:11 |
* |
asciilifeform has read the complete tlp |
| 02:11 |
pete_dushenski |
not really |
| 02:11 |
pete_dushenski |
his last article was only 7 months ago |
| 02:11 |
pete_dushenski |
*only* |
| 02:21 |
* |
pete_dushenski did more digging on foxnews.com, came up utterly blank trying to find anything of value. retracts earlier statement. |
| 02:22 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: which << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770561 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2014#817435 << those two in particular. i guess no one wants to be in gulag, but stories like this REALLY make me not wanna be in US gulag. The latter means once prisoner of US gulag, US polezei will toss you back in as the feel like it even if you escape. |
| 02:23 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform either way, i figure the burden is on you to prove air tightness, not me to disprove |
| 02:23 |
thestringpuller |
as you further state here asciilifeform >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-08-2014#817449 << the real escape has costs and stuff |
| 02:23 |
pete_dushenski |
lack of news in midwest doesn't prove 'cover up' |
| 02:24 |
pete_dushenski |
the midwest is just... dull |
| 02:24 |
pete_dushenski |
if 'cover up' were in effect, no one would've ever heard of ferguson mo |
| 02:24 |
pete_dushenski |
and i'm pretty sure africa's heard of ferguson mo |
| 02:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99100 @ 0.00036451 = 36.1229 BTC [+] {2} |
| 02:32 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00035807 = 2.8825 BTC [-] |
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| 05:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84500 @ 0.00037321 = 31.5362 BTC [+] {2} |
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| 05:35 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98300 @ 0.00037842 = 37.1987 BTC [+] {4} |
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| 05:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44072 @ 0.00038296 = 16.8778 BTC [+] {3} |
| 06:01 |
punkman |
http://www.getmagicnow.com/ |
| 06:01 |
assbot |
Magic ... ( http://bit.ly/1D6co4s ) |
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| 06:33 |
jurov |
^ lol asciilifeform can ask them for stuff and pay in bitcoin... but quite bezzle rates |
| 06:37 |
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Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" http://bitbet.us/bet/1120/ Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.19984479 BTC. Current weight: 92,401. |
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| 07:51 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00036478 = 5.7635 BTC [-] |
| 07:55 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: so far i don't disagree - the problem i described could indeed be magicked away entirely and semi-permanently by judicious application of ~100k usd << 100k usd seems to be "magic number" in USia's /etc/moduli |
| 07:58 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: in other news, i got netbsd ramdisk to build. << Beautiful, but there's going to be some very sad japs who still can't netbsd up their pogo next to their toaster because nand |
| 08:01 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: nubbins`: elementary fact is that i can only keep my wot obligations (s.nsa) if i have present level of equipment and time << When BTC funded taxi leaves USia, maybe missile takes it down in interesting place and we all meet the "boys from brazil" |
| 08:06 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, decimation: the point that i was trying - and failing - to make, was that a fundamentally fiat-based business arrangement like renting a house from a fella on opposite end of continent who you've never met and never expect to meet, cannot be 'bitcoinized' in the sense of turning you loose from usg financial jail << Even when "fiat poor" developing "escape WoT" is obstacle |
| 08:09 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: this doesn't include private 'consulting' gigs, also, which many of these folks take part in << Seriously perverts rents. All around the country bubbles aroud various installations push rent up $BigInt for $ConvenientInt radius |
| 08:12 |
chetty |
All around the country bubbles aroud various installations push rent up $BigInt for $ConvenientInt radius// which makes stupid ideas like min wage even more ridiculous |
| 08:17 |
|
Bet placed: 12 BTC for No on "Gold to drop under $1000 before April 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1119/ Odds: 7(Y):93(N) by coin, 8(Y):92(N) by weight. Total bet: 25.4954 BTC. Current weight: 78,985. |
| 08:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29022 @ 0.00037316 = 10.8298 BTC [+] |
| 08:20 |
punkman |
http://innovationpatterns.blogspot.com/2012/04/4-23-2012.html |
| 08:20 |
assbot |
Innovation Patterns: 4-23-2012 | Vladislav's Masterpiece ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLxrie ) |
| 08:20 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: fluffypony: what about rhodesia? << meatspace friends blessed me with three rare books as birthday gift "Slave to her nigger", "Temptress in the Slave Quarters", and "A Craving for Black Flesh" these people know me too well |
| 08:22 |
BingoBoingo |
0 fluffypony: that's not been done, right? << Should be done to death by now, unfortunately undeath and zombies |
| 08:29 |
BingoBoingo |
Nice boobie trap trigger too, no nipple will not engorge when the capacitor shorts |
| 08:40 |
danielpbarron |
height=217183 vs height=189334 |
| 08:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.00036478 = 10.2868 BTC [-] |
| 08:46 |
jurov |
got curious about bingo's books and unearthed this: http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Perspectives_1/Willie_Lynch_letter_The_Making_of_a_Slave.shtml |
| 08:46 |
assbot |
Willie Lynch letter: The Making of a Slave ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLCNtK ) |
| 08:48 |
BingoBoingo |
jurov: Good find |
| 08:49 |
BingoBoingo |
"I HAVE OUTLINED A NUMBER OF DIFFERENCES AMONG THE SLAVES; AND I TAKE THESE DIFFERENCES AND MAKE THEM BIGGER. I USE FEAR, DISTRUST AND ENVY FOR CONTROL PURPOSES." How the British controlled hundreds of millions in india with hundreds of their own |
| 08:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Wow, principles discussed recently >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2015#1028170 |
| 08:57 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2015 03:06:06; decimation: nah, the whole 'd1scr1m1n4t10n!!!111!!' has everything to do with the general divide & conqueror the kulaks program, and nothing to do with the exercise of actual power |
| 08:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00037316 = 3.0413 BTC [+] |
| 09:02 |
BingoBoingo |
mike_c: a lot can change in a year. but i don't think there are enough shares in existence to make it worth it anyway. i mean, what, bingo maybe has 50k shares? << Beauty of MPEx is neither you nor the pederasts can truly be sure. |
| 09:07 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: there's really no logical reason to buy it unless you got a better way to run it << ALso can't seriously discount the glory of major sharholders split across 3 continents. GAW could prebtebd to sue coinfire, Qntra??? |
| 09:12 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: this is true but misleading : in fact you know the fiats will inflate to all shit. and you know start-ups will dilute to all shit. in absolutely no proportion to "Words added" or any other sort of metric. << Scary thing is the longer this goes on and the harder we look for news, the less news words there seem to be to write in my observation. As time goes on I hope pieces like 'Your Disk Controller and You" Take an |
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| 09:12 |
BingoBoingo |
increasing percent of equity |
| 09:13 |
* |
BingoBoingo also offer that the qntra principles could likely drink any other "BTC News" venture under any table. |
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↖ |
| 09:16 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: re: qntra > I guess my thinking is that he is using pretty speculative thinking about the rate of dilution, who knows how management is going to act in the future << So far surprisingly predictable |
| 09:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57131 @ 0.00036442 = 20.8197 BTC [-] {2} |
| 09:19 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: and yes, it started with eu 'rohs' mandate for lead-free. << Amazing how much civilization depends on this humble metal |
| 09:19 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
| 09:21 |
BingoBoingo |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2015#1028418 << Bought iBook G3 at insane discount because display broken. On list of machines I wish I would have kept. |
| 09:21 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2015 05:32:09; asciilifeform: 'My wife got through her Master's on a G3 iBook, and we paid to have its motherboard replaced twice for the same graphics issue, a little over a year apart. Having to pay for the first repair sucked, but sometimes those are the odds. Having to pay to repair it a second time due to identical symptoms a couple of months after the initial repair warranty was up was a kick in the teeth, and was a good ind |
| 09:24 |
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Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $30 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1112/ Odds: 6(Y):94(N) by coin, 7(Y):93(N) by weight. Total bet: 19.99351 BTC. Current weight: 48,541. |
| 09:33 |
BingoBoingo |
pete_dushenski: 6 year old al macbook is slow, but a bit weighed down with junk, still mechanically solid << loving cheapest thinkpad of 2011 still. working on hoarding fans for it and learning enough hardware diddling to do cell replacement in battery apparatus |
| 09:36 |
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Bet placed: 4 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $100 before April" http://bitbet.us/bet/1108/ Odds: 8(Y):92(N) by coin, 11(Y):89(N) by weight. Total bet: 24.43457636 BTC. Current weight: 41,533. |
| 09:44 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: for all i know, it rages still somewhere in midwest << Maybe in Ohio? Biggest Illinois news is pro-Austerity governor proposing operation as advertized |
| 09:47 |
BingoBoingo |
;; later tell pete_dushenski How do you know the ferguson drama wasn't to keep Africans from wanting to go to Middle West? |
| 09:47 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 09:57 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu:nubbins`: you know i took a ninety per cent pay cut two years ago? << you actually made money at some point ?! <<< i actually make money *now*, just... less 8) |
| 09:58 |
nubbins` |
mircea_popescu:nubbins`: what's a young anti-consumerist to do ;/ << shit look at that, "mother earth news" is actually a thing. <<< print issues are a bit lacking these days, but for the $20/yr or w/e... |
| 09:58 |
nubbins` |
website + backlogs are literally a trove tho |
| 09:58 |
nubbins` |
you can get every back issue to the 70s on dvd for <sale of the month price> |
| 09:59 |
jurov |
is it searchable? |
| 10:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70300 @ 0.00036718 = 25.8128 BTC [+] {2} |
| 10:13 |
jurov |
nubbins`: ^ |
| 10:13 |
nubbins` |
jurov i'd imagine. |
| 10:13 |
nubbins` |
;;google mother earth dvd |
| 10:13 |
gribble |
Shopping - Mother Earth News: <http://www.motherearthnews.com/shopping/home.aspx>; MOTHER EARTH NEWS Archive 1970-2013: Multiplatform Edition: <http://www.motherearthnews.com/shopping/detail.aspx?itemnumber=7210>; Mother Earth Tour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Earth_Tour> |
| 10:14 |
nubbins` |
i probably have coupon codes somewhere if you actually want it |
| 10:14 |
jurov |
you know, it may easily be scanned turds |
| 10:14 |
nubbins` |
"The Multiplatform Edition contains files for each year of the magazine in a format that can be transferred for viewing and searching on multiple devices. The content can only be viewed and searched year by year. • The Classic Edition provides a browser-based interface for accessing the archive on your desktop computer or laptop. You can do advanced searches and view content from the entire 44-year archive, all at once!" |
| 10:14 |
nubbins` |
they really do put a fair amount of effort into what they do |
| 10:16 |
nubbins` |
http://www.motherearthnews.com/blogs/blog-landing.aspx |
| 10:16 |
assbot |
Mother Earth News Blog Landing page ... ( http://bit.ly/1CYMeOv ) |
| 10:16 |
nubbins` |
^ some of the homesteading blogs are rad too |
| 10:16 |
nubbins` |
neat seeing how people do things |
| 10:20 |
jurov |
looks good, you can look up the coupons someday |
| 10:23 |
assbot |
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assbot |
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assbot |
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assbot |
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assbot |
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| 11:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95900 @ 0.00039569 = 37.9467 BTC [+] {2} |
| 11:26 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: can ask them for stuff and pay in bitcoin... but quite bezzle rates << same as 'bitpay' but spammier flavour. and same problem. you can't bitcoinize a fiat business relationship not because of the funny green usg money but because it is wotless |
| 11:38 |
assbot |
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assbot |
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| 13:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.00039379 = 17.8387 BTC [+] {2} |
| 13:13 |
asciilifeform |
jurov! |
| 13:13 |
asciilifeform |
wtf did turdatron do with my message. |
| 13:13 |
asciilifeform |
seriously that thing does not work at all. |
| 13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 13:14 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: it even mailed it back to me, but not showing in the www. |
| 13:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform scoopbot's down, deedbot not here, it's like microsoft over here. |
| 13:15 |
indiancandy1 |
quick question |
| 13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
shoot. |
| 13:15 |
indiancandy1 |
does anyone kno anything bout viral marketing |
| 13:15 |
asciilifeform |
indiancandy1: yes. if you have a rare viral sample (e.g. Marburg) various folks will offer to buy. |
| 13:15 |
mircea_popescu |
about as much as they know about psychiatry : everyone has his own story. |
| 13:15 |
fluffypony |
further to asciilifeform's point, containment is critical |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later peterl what happened to scoopbot now ? |
| 13:16 |
gribble |
Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "peterl" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. |
| 13:16 |
fluffypony |
most buyers prefer it to be kept as cooled specimens / samples |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell peterl what happened to scoopbot now ? |
| 13:16 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 13:16 |
fluffypony |
not just on some petri dish or something |
| 13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
indiancandy1 you have voice silly. |
| 13:17 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony you're a bunch of aholes you know :D |
| 13:17 |
fluffypony |
:-P |
| 13:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.loper-os.org/pub/this_is_retarded.txt |
| 13:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vq2hYa ) |
| 13:18 |
asciilifeform |
jurov ^ |
| 13:18 |
mircea_popescu |
http://33.media.tumblr.com/df2fcf02fd786b354f2a5578d437180d/tumblr_mxfx4rar6b1srb2awo1_500.gif << acquiring viral samples in the wild. |
| 13:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vq2jiH ) |
| 13:20 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov "Behind the scenes, however, some new that peace was definitely not secured." |
| 13:20 |
mircea_popescu |
it looks like a pretty good attempt at being the onion |
| 13:23 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform that bit of russian gets spit out as "tvnz" by google translate << it's not russian ye kook, it's the hammer and sickle sign |
| 13:23 |
asciilifeform |
it had a translation!?! |
| 13:23 |
asciilifeform |
l0l! |
| 13:23 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: dat clearsigned tftp vomit /o\ |
| 13:24 |
asciilifeform |
wtf's wrong with my chunder |
| 13:24 |
asciilifeform |
why won't it eat. |
| 13:24 |
asciilifeform |
perfectly good chunkz |
| 13:24 |
jurov |
it's kilometer line. we already had this discussion |
| 13:24 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DDqgnxPnyI |
| 13:24 |
assbot |
Alien goat vomit - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq2Z7M ) |
| 13:24 |
asciilifeform |
^ obligatory |
| 13:24 |
jurov |
that stmp just won't do kilometer lines |
| 13:25 |
jurov |
*smtp |
| 13:25 |
jurov |
Pogov4> tftp 0x800000 netbsd.ub Using egiga0 device TFTP from server [censored]; our IP address is [censored] Filename 'netbsd.ub'. Load address: 0x800000 Loading: ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ############################################################# |
| 13:25 |
jurov |
################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# |
| 13:25 |
jurov |
^ this |
| 13:25 |
asciilifeform |
could've guessed |
| 13:25 |
asciilifeform |
but why? |
| 13:25 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
why didn't you guess! and why. because fucking email. |
| 13:26 |
mircea_popescu |
stupidest protocol in common use since the bretton woods agreements |
| 13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
thestringpuller: got this pavlov goin on here. saw your name pete, and subconciously refreshed tab with your blog in it. voila new article. ;) << ha. |
| 13:31 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: (why piano keys - story for another day) << im pretty sure those are illegal in your jurisdiction. |
| 13:31 |
asciilifeform |
technically grandfathered |
| 13:31 |
asciilifeform |
but i won't be surprised to have them exhibited at my hanging |
| 13:32 |
asciilifeform |
'prove you didn't shoot the elephant' |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
there's no such thing as grandfathered for parts. |
| 13:32 |
mircea_popescu |
only for whole item. |
| 13:33 |
mircea_popescu |
pete_dushenski: and i'm pretty sure africa's heard of ferguson mo << at least the part that can read. although... it seems improbable that if they did we don't see the output. |
| 13:34 |
mircea_popescu |
"i represent the family of a rich ferguson, mo merchant who has died in the recent troubles..." |
| 13:35 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.getmagicnow.com/magic.jpg << lol that shit looks kinda like my shit. of course, i would suspect they'd choke if i put my lists through them, as i don't order pizza. |
| 13:35 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vq4cvO ) |
| 13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
chetty: [...] which makes stupid ideas like min wage even more ridiculous << there's simply no way to avoid it. it IS a stupid idea, of course, but in an inflation driven economy everyone just keeps trying to climb on everyone else. |
| 13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
inflation economy is basically the cheapest most reliable implementation of "crabs in the pot" to human society. |
| 13:38 |
mircea_popescu |
nothing ever gets done anymore because everyone's energy is spent dragging everyone else down. |
| 13:39 |
mircea_popescu |
and if in a scored sport, say baseball or soccer, they started messing with the scoreboard, the game'd stop right then and all the players etc would just move to working teh board. |
| 13:39 |
mircea_popescu |
"come watch a bunch of folks sit at desks on a green field, make numbers go up." |
| 13:40 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo: meatspace friends blessed me with three rare books as birthday gift "Slave to her nigger", "Temptress in the Slave Quarters", and "A Craving for Black Flesh" these people know me too well << wtf, these are books or more like photo albums ? |
| 13:43 |
mircea_popescu |
http://utc.iath.virginia.edu/abolitn/abaufda8t.html << if anyone's curious to see 1845 pious fraud, here's the "great philosopher" frederick douglass making shit up. |
| 13:43 |
assbot |
Douglass' Narrative ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq54Aw ) |
| 13:44 |
mircea_popescu |
he sounds exactly like a better read joseph smith. substantially the same inclination to pass counterfactuality for fact "because who's to say it didn't happen" and "it damned well serves the purpose of making my understanding of the world more palatable ot others". |
| 13:45 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda lends a lot of substance to a notion that usians are actually broken in the head structurally, rather than accidentally. at least the usians of the time. |
| 13:46 |
ben_vulpes |
douglass was a fraud? |
| 13:47 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: not only were the colonies (and then usa) the world's premier nuthouse for sectarian nutters, but the era of 'we have empty space now' promoted the 'tell'em tall tales and who's to say it didn't happen out there in the woods' mentality |
| 13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i never read anything important he wrote. he did a lot of abolitionist propaganda, for which his party attached titles to him. |
| 13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
this makes him no more a philosopher than the soviets. |
| 13:47 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform apparently. it's kind-of strange that this shared psychosis was never investigated. |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
then people jump at the fundamentally antiscientific restructuring of science the americans did (and many places copied) after 1950 as a sort of noivel phenomena |
| 13:48 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking bs, there's nothing novel about it, they just did to science what they had been doing all through 1800s. which apparently is, for unclear reasons, all the ycan intellectually do ?! |
| 13:49 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: marc twain did a pretty good job investigating |
| 13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform and you obviously notice that after the "god spoke to me through stones in hat" west of the early 1800 and the "god spoke to me re black people" of the mid 1800s, they moved on to "god spoke to me re rhodesia" almost seamlessly. and before that it was... |
| 13:50 |
asciilifeform |
even mr mold got this much |
| 13:50 |
mircea_popescu |
basically, THIS if anything is the red thread of a putative "american nation". religious obscurantism divorced from religion per se. |
| 13:50 |
asciilifeform |
his whole thesis was approximately this sentence |
| 13:50 |
asciilifeform |
'christianity without the chris' |
| 13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
it may well hold some value. |
| 13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
well, also notably without the virgin whore. |
| 13:51 |
mircea_popescu |
the only other people i know about this stupid and stupid in this manner are the sicilians, and they are fucking fixated on the holy cunt. |
| 13:52 |
asciilifeform |
iirc he compared it to certain genetically engineered bacteria that end up shedding the payload - 'why should i piss out $protein when i can be making more copies of self faster' |
| 13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
(sicilians more in the "kingdom of two sicilies" than in the island of ~ sense) |
| 13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
no cause they do have a payload. |
| 13:52 |
mircea_popescu |
the payload is, amusdingly enough, a very primitive answer to the same problem. |
| 13:53 |
asciilifeform |
that is, evolutionary pressure to jettison whatever payload is no longer serving the ultimate purpose |
| 13:53 |
mircea_popescu |
they STILL deal with their own fear of death, just, not iun the very refined jewish manner. |
| 13:53 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: re "piece of shit" neat stuff |
| 13:53 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: tried it ? |
| 13:53 |
ben_vulpes |
nope. |
| 13:53 |
ben_vulpes |
no pogo. |
| 13:53 |
asciilifeform |
once have pogo: if you use the tftp recipe, you no longer need to wear out your nand to run these |
| 13:53 |
ben_vulpes |
have not the shiva arms |
| 13:54 |
asciilifeform |
^ pun intended ? |
| 13:54 |
asciilifeform |
(the original machine in the series was marketed as 'sheeva plug.' and ran on same 'arm' chip by 'marvell'...) |
| 13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
much more brusquely, as if a cowboy in dirty footwraps at a bar somewhere decided to cut it short and end with a joke. |
| 13:55 |
ben_vulpes |
somewhere deep in the stack, something insisted on saying it. same way the rest of my puns happen. |
| 13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
your punhole's leakin'. |
| 13:55 |
ben_vulpes |
i can't reason about my bioware |
| 13:56 |
* |
asciilifeform wonders how many u.s. folk, other than historical re-enactors, know what footwraps are |
| 13:56 |
mircea_popescu |
yes well real cowboys don't wear fucking socks. |
| 13:56 |
asciilifeform |
socks are finicky high-tech |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
aye. |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
also don't wash well. |
| 13:57 |
asciilifeform |
esp. not if 'wash' means 'fording a river' |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
quite. |
| 13:57 |
asciilifeform |
phun phact: degenerating ru army recently moved to socks! |
| |
↖ |
| 13:57 |
asciilifeform |
yes, and with american-style boots. |
| 13:57 |
mircea_popescu |
o did they ? |
| 13:58 |
asciilifeform |
(can't use trad ru boots with socks) |
| 13:58 |
* |
mircea_popescu pictures legion of corporals going "omfg end of fucking world igmme a drink" |
| 13:58 |
asciilifeform |
sure did. |
| 13:58 |
asciilifeform |
or so i'm told |
| 14:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40100 @ 0.00037113 = 14.8823 BTC [-] |
| 14:00 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/eternal/1084962 << turns out it was proclaimed, but not quite implemented |
| 14:00 |
assbot |
Правда ли, что в российской армии отменили портянки? | Вечные вопросы | Вопрос-Ответ | Аргументы и Факты ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq6ATi ) |
| 14:00 |
mircea_popescu |
ah |
| 14:01 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKZbHMhP9Q4 << how-to for interested folks |
| 14:01 |
assbot |
Портянки: мастер-класс от курских военных - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq6FGt ) |
| 14:01 |
asciilifeform |
good enough for the romans, etc |
| 14:01 |
mircea_popescu |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
"Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish" |
| 14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
what fucking bs is this lmao. |
| 14:04 |
mircea_popescu |
no, and i do mean NO english speaker of 1712 would have come up with that string. |
| 14:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38375 @ 0.0003746 = 14.3753 BTC [+] |
| 14:09 |
mircea_popescu |
http://38.media.tumblr.com/71ac18eb4da171bef52b398f3612cefa/tumblr_nhgp6yXCdi1rdc5oto1_250.gif pop. |
| 14:09 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vq7tLs ) |
| 14:10 |
ben_vulpes |
o |
| 14:10 |
ben_vulpes |
http://docs.rubygems.org/read/chapter/3 << fucking linkrot |
| 14:10 |
assbot |
Page not found | RubyGems.org ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq7DCD ) |
| 14:11 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm beginning to think that each and every ruby developer's computer is configured to work on exactly one project, and they have no idea how they made it work in the first place. |
| 14:11 |
mircea_popescu |
this is quite exact. |
| 14:11 |
mircea_popescu |
!b 4 |
| 14:11 |
assbot |
Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1HVWTK3.txt ) |
| 14:11 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: lol! |
| 14:11 |
ben_vulpes |
this leads to such inane babble like "oh rbenv and rvm are neither any better nor any worse than each other, they do different things differently" |
| 14:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15758 @ 0.00037113 = 5.8483 BTC [-] |
| 14:12 |
ben_vulpes |
a) whenever i hear "neither better nor worse" i actually parse "i cannot evaluate things and exist in a perpetual fog of 'oh iono'" |
| 14:12 |
ben_vulpes |
b) EVERYONE HACKING ON RUBY IS FAKING COMPETENCE |
| 14:13 |
ben_vulpes |
holeeeeeee shit i'm angry. |
| 14:13 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes "computers are not about hurtful things like math but more like about feelings and so the fact that there exist unevaluable statements does not worry me, but on the contrary" |
| 14:13 |
ben_vulpes |
AWGIBELRUN |
| 14:13 |
ben_vulpes |
and the wayback machine is down |
| 14:13 |
ben_vulpes |
obab hates me. |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 14:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3244650451628407@naggum.no.html << obligatory naggum |
| 14:14 |
assbot |
Re: Lisp advocacy misadventures - Naggum cll archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq80x5 ) |
| 14:14 |
mircea_popescu |
the wayback machine thing reminds me of one of the lulziest things ever drug up in my nets : |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
"The problem is the people cannot fit the behaviour into any customary category. It does not look like usual editor's behaviour, does not look as usual spammer's behaviour, etc. They do not know what expect from it. They still cannot stop the bot fixing the dead links. They have angst. |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
And as it is something unusual, the usual verbs cannot be applied to it. Can the ants from the outer space be "forgiven"? No. They can be only wiped out. It is an existential issue, not a technical one. That's why your brilliant arguments won't work" |
| 14:15 |
mircea_popescu |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Archive.is_RFC |
| 14:15 |
assbot |
Wikipedia:Archive.is RFC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq867M ) |
| 14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
tl;dr : someone came in and fixed linkrot for wikipedia without bothering to ask the "anyone can edit" powers whether they aprove. |
| 14:16 |
mircea_popescu |
whole thing got burned down. |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
probably best argument ever in that entirely nonsensical "anyone can edit" line of conmanship. |
| 14:17 |
punkman |
archive.is (now archive.today) is ran by single russian dude using his own money |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
so ? |
| 14:17 |
punkman |
just mentioning |
| 14:17 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. anyway, the way back machine being still down... |
| 14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
fucking shit how did this never occur to me before http://38.media.tumblr.com/f7f006d83ac11ada3ce11c33a5af21bf/tumblr_nhd5gurIzB1rdc5oto1_500.gif |
| 14:18 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vq8rrd ) |
| 14:18 |
mircea_popescu |
this is the internet! everyone learns from it! |
| 14:20 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: that reminds me: i've long imagined that 'in the dark future where there is only war (tm)' zip ties will be used for expedient field hangings. |
| 14:20 |
asciilifeform |
sorta how current american cops use them as handcuffs |
| 14:21 |
asciilifeform |
cheaper than bullet, and ever more effete gestapo peopled by folks afraid of blood - perfect match |
| 14:21 |
mircea_popescu |
yep. |
| 14:21 |
asciilifeform |
zzzip - hrrrrk - next |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
wrists first. |
| 14:22 |
asciilifeform |
sure |
| 14:22 |
asciilifeform |
complete 3-piece kit |
| 14:22 |
asciilifeform |
in envelope |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
just wrists behind back |
| 14:22 |
mircea_popescu |
otherwise most men can actually break the shit off. |
| 14:22 |
decimation |
basically, THIS if anything is the red thread of a putative "american nation". religious obscurantism divorced from religion per se. << Christians who had other ideas quickly 'got with program' http://sothl.com/2011/03/06/the-americanization-of-the-lutheran-church-missouri-synod/ < "Even so, despite the initial Americanization that had already taken place, further inroads were held at bay as German immigration kept increasing into the |
| 14:22 |
assbot |
The Americanization of the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod — Shepherd of the Hills ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq8SBQ ) |
| 14:22 |
decimation |
1880s and the LCMS took measures to keep its German heritage, such as parochial schools in the German language. Such was broadly the case until World War I, which was the most-decisive occurrence Americanizing the LCMS. It was then we could no longer deny that we were Americans, since being German in America was then disdained. It was then that the American flag began to adorn God’s house, His Church, intermingling Church and |
| 14:22 |
decimation |
State. It was then we self-consciously began to relate ourselves to American Protestantism, and so patterned our public worship and viewed ourselves on that basis. " |
| 14:22 |
asciilifeform |
feet optional (why did 'dancing the hempen jig' go out of fashion ?) |
| 14:23 |
chetty |
<mircea_popescu> otherwise most men can actually break the shit off.// not usains |
| 14:23 |
ben_vulpes |
i'm fucking chowning /Library/Ruby to my user |
| 14:23 |
ben_vulpes |
bleeeeee |
| 14:23 |
ben_vulpes |
ran into a smart cookie of a babe last night |
| 14:23 |
punkman |
ben_vulpes: is that why rubyists love docker? |
| 14:23 |
asciilifeform |
chetty: complicated. at [censored] we got a shipment of zip ties in recently, and they break with one hand. |
| 14:24 |
asciilifeform |
progressively more chinese crud |
| 14:24 |
ben_vulpes |
when i explained to her why software as a career might be worse than working in a woodshop with limb loss risks etc, given the decades of shit and bad decisions i have to deal with on a daily basis |
| 14:24 |
ben_vulpes |
she said "ah like city planning in europe. this road goes off at 12 degrees because fuck you?" |
| 14:24 |
ben_vulpes |
precisely, dear. |
| 14:24 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes lol didja bring her here for us to scare her off ? |
| 14:25 |
ben_vulpes |
nah i keep the girls away from you terrists. |
| 14:25 |
punkman |
ben_vulpes: road goes off at 12 degrees because not city plan at all |
| 14:25 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform they probably replaced the polymer. |
| 14:25 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes punkman road goes off at 12 degrees because FUCK YOU YOU WORK FOR US so you adapt to us. not the other way around. god dang it. |
| 14:25 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: funnier still. the polymer's fine (pulled it with pliers and it stood) |
| 14:25 |
mircea_popescu |
this is like the complaint of hairdressers about unspherical heads. |
| 14:26 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform ew. |
| 14:26 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: but they botched the molding - the ratchet doesn't hold. it's almost as if someone made the injection mold dies from... an n-th generation zip tie |
| 14:26 |
ben_vulpes |
punkman: i could not tell you why rubyists like anything. |
| 14:26 |
asciilifeform |
we were tying low-voltage cabling, not necks, so nobody gave a fuck |
| 14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
"Properly speaking, there is no such thing as revenge. Revenge is an act which you want to commit when you are powerless and because you are powerless: as soon as the sense of impotence is removed, the desire evaporates also." |
| 14:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19400 @ 0.00037113 = 7.1999 BTC [-] |
| 14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
check it out! jesus! orwell understands this much, but does not make the step to grasp that socialism is somethin you want when you're stupid, because you're stupid, and as your brain starts working you stop wanting it./ |
| 14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
how in the world. |
| 14:28 |
mircea_popescu |
o wait. because stupid. okay. |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: remember your article on how 'oceans of pussy' is something boy only wants when he's 14 and living in a cellar ? |
| 14:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i do, having written it. |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
just like 'drinking an ocean' is something we only 'want' when thirsty |
| 14:29 |
asciilifeform |
etc |
| 14:29 |
mircea_popescu |
"i could eat a horse". "here you go" |
| 14:30 |
asciilifeform |
it isn't stupid as such |
| 14:30 |
asciilifeform |
just hungry |
| 14:30 |
jurov |
nothing sturdy enough for hangings available.. truly a demise of civilization |
| 14:30 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov slash reign of peace. |
| 14:30 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: the zip tie and the effete executioner of the future are a match made in heaven. no need to watch the victim struggle, dance. zip - next. |
| |
↖ |
| 14:31 |
asciilifeform |
there was something like this, iirc, depicted in the film 'clouds atlas' |
| 14:31 |
mircea_popescu |
where is that proposed vat |
| 14:32 |
asciilifeform |
where they kill the meat girl |
| 14:32 |
ben_vulpes |
re: field hangings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHvJ5WTF3qM |
| 14:32 |
assbot |
The counselor scene Brad Pitt killed - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq9CH0 ) |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/2011/ghilotina-moderna/ |
| 14:32 |
assbot |
Ghilotina moderna pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1vq9GH0 ) |
| 14:32 |
jurov |
btw, i doubt they can get more effete than today |
| 14:32 |
mircea_popescu |
if someone feels like reading romanian horrors. |
| 14:33 |
ben_vulpes |
"post install message from httparty:" |
| 14:33 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: what was that? |
| 14:33 |
ben_vulpes |
"when you httparty, you party hard" |
| 14:33 |
ben_vulpes |
wat |
| 14:34 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: ratcheting wire decapitator, slung around target's neck |
| 14:35 |
asciilifeform |
well yes |
| 14:35 |
asciilifeform |
but from where is the scene |
| 14:35 |
asciilifeform |
(the scheme itself dates to ancient china, as is well known) |
| 14:36 |
punkman |
asciilifeform: stupid movie called "The Counselor" |
| 14:37 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Parallel_20Guillotine and of course http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Serial_20Guillotine#1123019517 |
| 14:37 |
assbot |
Halfbakery: Parallel Guillotine ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqa5ZQ ) |
| 14:37 |
assbot |
Halfbakery: Serial Guillotine ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqa5ZS ) |
| 14:37 |
asciilifeform |
as for the hydraulic variant, who hasn't considered that. |
| 14:38 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 14:38 |
punkman |
I was wondering if anyone ever built multi-seat guillotine few days ago |
| 14:39 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.morningsidecenter.org/sites/default/files/pictures/guillotine.png |
| 14:39 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1vqamMs ) |
| 14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
you could have a replica of the piss fountain |
| 14:39 |
mircea_popescu |
except heads and blood fountain |
| 14:41 |
ben_vulpes |
punkman: yeah i guess now i try to docker this thing |
| 14:41 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2538178/Found-guillotine-used-kill-Hitlers-enemies-But-device-executed-heroine-21-show.html << supposedly original nazi chopper found |
| 14:41 |
assbot |
Found, guillotine used to kill Hitler's enemies: But will device that executed heroine, 21, go on show? | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqayLF ) |
| 14:42 |
asciilifeform |
i don't see any provisions for the infamous 'chin trigger' though |
| 14:42 |
asciilifeform |
were the legends a lie?! |
| 14:43 |
ben_vulpes |
imho wrong: http://phusion.github.io/baseimage-docker/ |
| 14:43 |
assbot |
Baseimage-docker: A minimal Ubuntu base image modified for Docker-friendliness ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqaFXB ) |
| 14:46 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2015#1028814 << that's a point huh. |
| 14:46 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2015 14:12:37; BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: this is true but misleading : in fact you know the fiats will inflate to all shit. and you know start-ups will dilute to all shit. in absolutely no proportion to "Words added" or any other sort of metric. << Scary thing is the longer this goes on and the harder we look for news, the less news words there seem to be to write in my observation. As time goes on I hope pieces like 'Your Disk |
| 14:47 |
mircea_popescu |
it would seem that a correctly run news outlet turns more into rotten.com's library than the gawker empire of shit. |
| 14:48 |
mircea_popescu |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-02-2015#1028816 << any other news site period. it's the goal here : make "fiat" news impossible. |
| 14:48 |
assbot |
Logged on 22-02-2015 14:13:45; *: BingoBoingo also offer that the qntra principles could likely drink any other "BTC News" venture under any table. |
| 14:51 |
asciilifeform |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtBT4hBFL40 |
| 14:51 |
assbot |
Das Fallbeil - Breif history and demonstration of the german guillotine - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqbvDK ) |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
"Articulate" has a certain meaning, look in the dictionary; it is fairly consistent throughout all settings except one: when it is used by a white guy to describe a black guy. In that case, the word suddenly means something completely different than it ordinarily does: it means "not hung up about race." Here's the point: the black guy may actually be articulate, or not be articulate-- who knows? But white people kno |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
w exactly what it means in that context. |
| 14:58 |
mircea_popescu |
uh... has this usage gone out of fashion in the past five years ? i'm completely unfamiliar with it. |
| 15:00 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.0003746 = 3.746 BTC [+] |
| 15:00 |
mircea_popescu |
and for that matter, articulate does not mean a vague "able to express ideas clearly and effectively in speech or writing" a la webster. what it means is, "all words used according to their definition, so that the receptor does not have to make ANY adjustments to the text to turn it into 'probable' meaning". |
| 15:01 |
mircea_popescu |
generally, being articulate is the opposite of thinking there's such a thing as synonymy |
| 15:01 |
asciilifeform |
with tftp can go from changed netbsd kernel option, rebuild, run, in less than five seconds |
| 15:01 |
asciilifeform |
damn, feel like a moron for not having done this on first day |
| 15:01 |
* |
mircea_popescu gives asciilifeform pointed hat. |
| 15:01 |
* |
asciilifeform wears |
| 15:02 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: does u-boot support tftp? |
| 15:02 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: mine does |
| 15:02 |
asciilifeform |
can't recall re: the crufty one it ships with |
| 15:02 |
asciilifeform |
iirc also yes |
| 15:02 |
decimation |
ah yes, that's sop in datacenters with pxe |
| 15:03 |
asciilifeform |
it also supports pxe-style bootp but that isn't needed here |
| 15:11 |
danielpbarron |
fw_setenv << how to use this? |
| 15:18 |
mats |
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9089549 << luls. 'idk nething about security but i wanna create a security startup' and "I think that is an awesome idea. I am currently a Business student with a computer science minor so I consider myself very technical." (real quote) |
| 15:18 |
assbot |
Ask HN: What is missing in the IT security world? | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqesnK ) |
| 15:20 |
mircea_popescu |
mats better than reddit. |
| 15:21 |
mats |
i wonder sometimes. |
| 15:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53842 @ 0.00037109 = 19.9802 BTC [-] {2} |
| 15:27 |
mats |
https://software.intel.com/sites/landingpage/IntrinsicsGuide/ this is cool. |
| 15:27 |
assbot |
Intel Intrinsics Guide ... ( http://bit.ly/1CZX2Me ) |
| 15:28 |
decimation |
mats: if you are on an intel cpu, that's the book to use to optimize your warez |
| 15:32 |
asciilifeform |
mats: for folks with crippled compilers ? |
| 15:32 |
asciilifeform |
gcc supports traditional inline asm |
| 15:32 |
mats |
why you gotta rain on my parade. |
| 15:34 |
asciilifeform |
val[63:0] := HW_RND_GEN.data << lol |
| 15:34 |
asciilifeform |
wake me up when they say what HW_RND_GEN is. |
| 15:34 |
asciilifeform |
in some magically externally verifiable way |
| 15:39 |
decimation |
'icc' actually works pretty well |
| 15:39 |
decimation |
if you are gonna be on the intel wagon, might as well use their tools |
| 15:39 |
asciilifeform |
mmm no. |
| 15:39 |
asciilifeform |
a closed-source compiler is even more of a circus-grade laugh than closed os |
| 15:40 |
asciilifeform |
belongs in the side show |
| 15:40 |
asciilifeform |
and nowhere else. |
| 15:40 |
decimation |
I get your point, but what if you are already on a closed-source microarchitecture? |
| 15:41 |
asciilifeform |
sorta like the argument that if there is already the usg-mandated maximum of xxx ppm of turd in your dinner, might as well go full-blown coprophagiac |
| 15:41 |
mats |
sure. |
| 15:41 |
decimation |
but asciilifeform, if you sell out to intel, your warez can go %x faster! |
| 15:42 |
asciilifeform |
if you actually need the x% gains from intel's fortran, or whatnot, you really ought to be doing hand asm optimizations of the bottleneck routines |
| 15:42 |
asciilifeform |
and spend lots of quality time with your profiler |
| 15:43 |
mats |
http://www.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/1ph882/a_donglebased_nofootprint_session_is_this_in_any/cd2exm3 << reddit's not so bad sometimes. |
| 15:43 |
assbot |
Gorlob comments on A dongle-based "no-footprint" session. Is this in any way valuable or useful? ... ( http://bit.ly/1vqh7hd ) |
| 15:43 |
decimation |
my understanding is that intel actually hires skilled folks from ru to hand-optimize their libraries |
| 15:43 |
mircea_popescu |
"In 1994, there were 20,000 visits for pediatric (under age 19) bipolar disorder. In 2003, the number was... 800,000. The diagnosis, therefore, was 25/100,000 in 1994, and now it's 1000/100,000. In other words, 1% of the population. " |
| 15:43 |
asciilifeform |
the kind of optimization i'm speaking of is not libraryizable |
| 15:44 |
asciilifeform |
but maximally unique to a particular problem |
| 15:44 |
decimation |
aye, understood |
| 15:44 |
mircea_popescu |
check it out, bipolar is a virus inf% more effective than ebola, nobody noticed. |
| 15:45 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: as he later explains (and ask any depressive patient from usa) it was so that pharma vendors could push patented antiepileptics (and even antipsychotics) to depressives |
| 15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
sure, but the advantage of "Science" and "facts" is that, you can build on their solid footing anything you wish. |
| 15:45 |
mircea_popescu |
the us MD crackpots are held to explain why the CDC is not going crazy over the bipolar virus yet. |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
such an increase can ONLY be viral. not even a bacteria can do that. |
| 15:46 |
asciilifeform |
we all know which 'virus'. |
| 15:46 |
asciilifeform |
it isn't any kind of secret from anyone. |
| 15:46 |
mircea_popescu |
we are not the subject. let THEM explain. |
| 15:46 |
decimation |
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=184107 "Conclusion This meta-analysis yielded no evidence that the serotonin transporter genotype alone or in interaction with stressful life events is associated with an elevated risk of depression in men alone, women alone, or in both sexes combined." |
| 15:46 |
assbot |
JAMA Network | JAMA | Interaction Between the Serotonin Transporter Gene (5-HTTLPR), Stressful Life Events, and Risk of Depression: A Meta-analysis ... ( http://bit.ly/1D01pXQ ) |
| 15:47 |
asciilifeform |
'their' job is not to explain anything, but to roll in the hookers and blow while plebes poison themselves |
| 15:47 |
asciilifeform |
(expensively!) |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
their job is whatever the fuck i say it is. |
| 15:47 |
mircea_popescu |
let's not get over ourselves here. |
| 15:47 |
asciilifeform |
whatever the fuck i say it is >> can that be wearing-zip-tie? though hydraulic chopper has its attractions |
| 15:48 |
asciilifeform |
because their current job - meh |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
first they gotta fail. then internalise it. then despair. |
| 15:48 |
mircea_popescu |
only THEN. |
| 15:48 |
asciilifeform |
not already failed ? |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
it's bad policy to kill people before they're completely squeezed of any possible anguish they could provide for themsleves. |
| 15:49 |
mircea_popescu |
yes we're in between 1 and 2, working on 2 atm. |
| 15:49 |
decimation |
^above paper implies that treating depression by attempting to inhibit serotonin is useless |
| 15:50 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#722630 |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2014 00:36:44; asciilifeform: interestingly, sometimes the pharma folks fail: they spent some years trying to cough up a dopamine reuptake inhibitor that doesn't reduce to a synthetic cocaine, and, afaik, gave up |
| 15:50 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: maybe they read #b-a for research 'ideas' |
| 15:50 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#723978 |
| 15:50 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-06-2014 22:56:07; asciilifeform: you can get 'real' dopamine reuptake inhibitors - but in dark alley, not pharmacy. |
| 15:51 |
asciilifeform |
the entire american 'antidepressant' tech is a bizarre tour of the protestant mental pathology of 'mustn't have too much fun' |
| 15:51 |
decimation |
and yet, tomorrow millions of us inhabitants will be dispensed their placebos |
| 15:52 |
asciilifeform |
the pyre on which these defectives have been burning more or less whole planet for 200 yrs |
| 15:52 |
danielpbarron |
isn't caffeine such a thing? |
| 15:52 |
asciilifeform |
the engineering spec, not written anywhere, is 'drug must make patient less apt to complain but oughtn't be detectably pleasurable' |
| 15:53 |
asciilifeform |
hence the preference for handing out sedatives and drugs with sedative side effect profile |
| 15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
danielpbarron nah, caffeine works as a general stimulant |
| 15:53 |
decimation |
if caffeine were unknown and sudden discovered yesterday, it would be banned by the fda |
| 15:53 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform pretty much the best way to indict anything in the anglotard space is 'but it's enjoyable" |
| 15:53 |
* |
danielpbarron sips his tea |
| 15:54 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: much as cathenone (similar naturally occurring item) was |
| 15:56 |
decimation |
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-09-11/-magic-mushrooms-help-smokers-kick-habit-in-small-study |
| 15:56 |
assbot |
Magic Mushrooms Help Smokers Kick Habit in Small Study - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1D03tih ) |
| 15:56 |
asciilifeform |
http://cryptome.org/2015/02/prz-pk-1992.htm |
| 15:56 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1D03xig ) |
| 15:57 |
asciilifeform |
^ revoked in '10, interestingly |
| 15:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://cryptome.org/2015/02/jane-doe-3-v-dershowitz.pdf << entirely unrelated mega-lol |
| 15:59 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo ^^^ can you comment on this drama ? |
| 16:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10758 @ 0.00037076 = 3.9886 BTC [-] |
| 16:02 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114842 @ 0.0003776 = 43.3643 BTC [+] {2} |
| 16:04 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.wsj.com/articles/alan-m-dershowitz-a-nightmare-of-false-accusation-that-could-happen-to-you-1421280860 << other side of the story |
| 16:04 |
assbot |
Alan M. Dershowitz: A Nightmare of False Accusation That Could Happen to You - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1D058Ve ) |
| 16:04 |
ben_vulpes |
https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/yunojuno/dev/dockerfile/ |
| 16:04 |
assbot |
yunojuno/dev Repository | Docker Hub Registry - Repositories of Docker Images ... ( http://bit.ly/1D059Zj ) |
| 16:05 |
ben_vulpes |
"the approved method of installing rvm simply causes too many issues" |
| 16:05 |
asciilifeform |
ben_vulpes: what's that do ? |
| 16:07 |
asciilifeform |
cathenone << there is a catha edulis in the u.s. national botanical garden. i saw it many times with own eyes. but, iirc, they don't have a cannabis sativa or any other 'forbidden fruit' |
| 16:08 |
ben_vulpes |
asciilifeform: you're familiar with the "hot" "trend" of "containerization" in the linux space? |
| 16:09 |
asciilifeform |
vm? |
| 16:09 |
ben_vulpes |
i honestly don't know what the technical difference between VMs and containerization is. |
| 16:09 |
ben_vulpes |
feels like a poor man's jail. |
| 16:10 |
ben_vulpes |
anyways, best as I can tell, the thing forgoes the entire ruby "version management" stack and installs some version of ruby. |
| 16:10 |
asciilifeform |
does the item running inside think it is on a genuine machine of its own ? |
| 16:10 |
ben_vulpes |
more or less, yes. |
| 16:10 |
ben_vulpes |
there are various and sundry privilege escalations and container escapes available, however. |
| 16:11 |
asciilifeform |
quite a few escapes for various vm have been found |
| 16:11 |
asciilifeform |
and this is only those that have been found. |
| 16:11 |
asciilifeform |
(interested folks - straight to the literature) |
| 16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform all the drama of divource court, now for internet consumption. |
| 16:14 |
mircea_popescu |
because hey, running out of cheap material. |
| 16:15 |
asciilifeform |
interesting only for the jurist/procedural quirks featured |
| 16:17 |
mircea_popescu |
only funny thing to me is that the anal children (they self identify as "radical" something or the other) actually have the unmitigated audacity to challenge the old ny jew. |
| 16:17 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: every time I went into the botanical garden I got terrible allergies |
| 16:17 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: guaranteed! |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
at least it's rather clear how exactly they plan to organise the exchange of power. |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
tbh gorbachev & co set had better strat, but anyway |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
wai wat |
| 16:18 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform what do you think this is other than politburo change of guard ? |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
ah then ancient sop |
| 16:18 |
asciilifeform |
clinton, etc |
| 16:19 |
asciilifeform |
sn0re. |
| 16:19 |
asciilifeform |
new guard - same as old |
| 16:20 |
asciilifeform |
if i understand correctly. |
| 16:20 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: it's all a gulag for your mind. |
| 16:20 |
decimation |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-raised-nearly-2-billion-for-foundation-since-2001/2015/02/18/b8425d88-a7cd-11e4-a7c2-03d37af98440_story.html |
| 16:20 |
assbot |
Clintons’ foundation has raised nearly $2 billion — and some key questions - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1D08Del ) |
| 16:20 |
decimation |
^old guard has a strategy too |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation unless they come out with "poor young girls are for the fucking', it does NOT have a strategy. |
| 16:21 |
mircea_popescu |
the only correct strategy in this situation is what the chinese did : round all the opposition up, shave their heads, parade them naked with legends. |
| 16:22 |
decimation |
what about 'we can raise $x bil from old men in the UAE |
| 16:22 |
mircea_popescu |
money is worthless without power. |
| 16:23 |
mircea_popescu |
this is why we regularly succeed where cardboard fiat "billionaires" fail. |
| 16:24 |
asciilifeform |
'fail' seems to come with peculiarly much physical security and ample hookers&blow supply in that case |
| 16:24 |
mircea_popescu |
you have seen this ? |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently there were no hookers "anywhere in sight" and the blow was from a sandblaster. |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
can't say that saw alive. but i also haven't seen them sitting in rags covering their gangrenous limbs in the street, begging for coin |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
i have declaration at the ready : "In a statement accompanying the court filing, Mr. Dershowitz said the encounters could not have occurred for several reasons, including the one time he had visited Mr. Epsteins house in New Mexico. The house was still under construction, and Mr. Dershowitz said he had stayed for about an hour. He was accompanied, he said, by his wife and daughter and another couple." |
| 16:25 |
asciilifeform |
instead i see them in the washington volkischer beobachter |
| 16:25 |
mircea_popescu |
with coke ? |
| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
i can't see their cocks either |
| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
but know they're in the pants |
| 16:26 |
asciilifeform |
don't need to see it, no ? |
| 16:27 |
mircea_popescu |
depends. if you don't discuss anything related to cocks, it doesn't matter. you don't know anything, but you also don't care. |
| 16:27 |
mircea_popescu |
would you hire them for your gay porn studio, sight unseen ? |
| 16:27 |
mircea_popescu |
"o but i knew cocks in pants" ? |
| 16:27 |
asciilifeform |
in press devoted to the subject, the lives of the kleptocrats can be seen - islands, castles, idiot 'foundations', etc |
| 16:28 |
asciilifeform |
(must confess i'm not up to date on this literature) |
| 16:28 |
asciilifeform |
ask a female usian |
| 16:28 |
mircea_popescu |
i think your summaries may have deceived you. |
| 16:29 |
asciilifeform |
not out of the question |
| 16:31 |
decimation |
mircea_popescu: are you asserting that these islands and castles don't exist? or that they are ultimately worthless baubles? |
| 16:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00037784 = 5.8187 BTC [+] |
| 16:34 |
mircea_popescu |
i am asserting that they're for actually powerful men (such as, russian billionaires) not for american aparatards. |
| 16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
when someone as high up as a four star general dares do as much as get a meaningless title for an old ugly she-horse, he gets beheaded for it. |
| 16:35 |
mircea_popescu |
what hookers ? what blow ? |
| 16:35 |
asciilifeform |
beheaded the day he did it? week later? or when superior ordered it for unrelated reason. |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
you think there exists a meta-usg that enjoys life like there exists a meta-nsa that enjoys thinking ? |
| 16:36 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a bureaucracy, not a fucking world. they don't have most things. |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform that woman doesn't look like what the average brothel goer would consider. |
| 16:36 |
asciilifeform |
but what do the folks with unaccountable $maxint in bank, whose names never appear in the beobachter, do with their time ? |
| 16:36 |
asciilifeform |
pull own cock ? |
| 16:36 |
decimation |
heh. well, the world of official usg is quite different from the world of finance for which usg provides a krysha |
| 16:36 |
mircea_popescu |
he only went with her for EXACTLY the same problem you were describing for yourself earlier, |
| 16:36 |
asciilifeform |
and if so - why ? |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
but somehow magically are unaware it's not limited to you. |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
where the fuck is he going to find the wot that'll get him the 19 yo hussies that love being fucked in public ? |
| 16:37 |
asciilifeform |
it only exists for me because all i can personally bankroll is a plane ticket but not any of what comes after |
| 16:37 |
asciilifeform |
but - them ? |
| 16:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25630 @ 0.00036989 = 9.4803 BTC [-] |
| 16:37 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform yes, they pull on their own cock. what do you do with your own time ? blow much ? |
| 16:38 |
asciilifeform |
correct if i'm thick, but $maxint will buy a whore or two ? |
| 16:38 |
asciilifeform |
of whatever octane grade |
| 16:38 |
asciilifeform |
without having to bid |
| 16:38 |
asciilifeform |
as in, let it be known that you have $maxint |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
no, it will not. |
| 16:38 |
mircea_popescu |
20 bucks buys a whore or two. depends for whom. |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
they aren't all old men |
| 16:39 |
mircea_popescu |
really. |
| 16:39 |
asciilifeform |
(do whores now forgo old men? who even goes to whores now?) |
| 16:39 |
decimation |
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/12/spitzer-prostitute-detail_n_91116.html |
| 16:39 |
assbot |
Spitzer Prostitute Details: $80,000 Spent, Mood Music, Multiple Prostitutes, Up To A Decade Of Use And An Ever-Present Security Detail ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0cZCf ) |
| 16:40 |
asciilifeform |
there we go. |
| 16:40 |
asciilifeform |
herr spitzer's whore. |
| 16:40 |
decimation |
he paid a couple $k per night apparently |
| 16:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 175070 @ 0.00035994 = 63.0147 BTC [-] {4} |
| 16:40 |
mircea_popescu |
pics ? |
| 16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
you know how this goes, right ? |
| 16:41 |
mircea_popescu |
or what, we suddenly have memory hole effect, we forgot about all the lies in filings, starting with the "confiscated btc" that never existed ? |
| 16:41 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/photos-eliot-spitzers-hooker |
| 16:41 |
assbot |
Photos Of Eliot Spitzer's Hooker | The Smoking Gun ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0dyMl ) |
| 16:41 |
asciilifeform |
^ supposed |
| 16:42 |
* |
asciilifeform wasn't there, didn't see him fuck |
| 16:42 |
decimation |
lol she had a myspace page |
| 16:42 |
mircea_popescu |
notbad.jpg |
| 16:42 |
asciilifeform |
spitzer et al probably account for lion's share of my mental picture of usg elite |
| 16:43 |
thestringpuller |
"Meet 'Kristen,' the 22-year-old woman who brought down the governor" << LOL so dramatic |
| 16:43 |
asciilifeform |
and yes, everyone knows that below each spitzer there are 100,000 faceless shmucks who go home to cry in beer |
| 16:43 |
asciilifeform |
and fuck dolls |
| 16:44 |
thestringpuller |
^- is this america now?!? |
| 16:44 |
decimation |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Alexandra_Dupr%C3%A9 < now she works for google (youtube) |
| 16:44 |
assbot |
Ashley Alexandra Dupré - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0efoK ) |
| 16:44 |
asciilifeform |
from the other side of the pond, it is known with some certainty that brezhnev had not only all of the racing cars he could wish for, but gurlz whenever he could still get it up |
| 16:45 |
jurov |
http://www.prezidentpress.ru/news/2762-sto-let-nazad-rossiya-i-kitay-sozdali-frs-ssha.html ... i stumble on such nutritional stuff recently |
| 16:45 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1D0en7L ) |
| 16:45 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform this is not the important point. |
| 16:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37560 @ 0.00037784 = 14.1917 BTC [+] |
| 16:45 |
mircea_popescu |
the important point is that should anyone have had as much as anything at all to say about it, he'd be cutting ice in front of the lenin icebreaker |
| 16:46 |
jurov |
apparently tsar nicholas arranged a business with lincoln |
| 16:46 |
jurov |
and borrowed 1000 tons of gold to that purpose |
| 16:46 |
ben_vulpes |
re "brought down the governor", kitzhaber had one of these recently: http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-32827-gov_john_kitzhabers_office_sought_to_destroy_thous.html |
| 16:46 |
assbot |
Gov. John Kitzhaber's Office Sought To Destroy Thousands of His Emails ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0etMJ ) |
| 16:46 |
decimation |
jurov: is that why the tsar sold alaska for a pittance? |
| 16:46 |
jurov |
but rothshilds stole it and caused general havoc |
| 16:46 |
jurov |
alaska is not mentioned |
| 16:46 |
ben_vulpes |
he also ran his personal emails through state servers. |
| 16:47 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: actually, disgraced soviet bureaucrats (usually posthumous - see hruschev's speech re: l. beria) had 'rapacious daily rapist' tags nailed on |
| |
↖ |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 16:47 |
asciilifeform |
with juicy tabloid-grade legends told via official microphones |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
but the timing is allimportant. |
| 16:47 |
decimation |
or they were disappeared from pictures right |
| 16:47 |
asciilifeform |
same timing here. herr spitzer was defrocked, out come the rape stories |
| 16:47 |
asciilifeform |
or equiv. |
| 16:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno... |
| 16:48 |
asciilifeform |
jurov taken to reading ru tabloids regularly ? |
| 16:49 |
jurov |
i keep getting fed them via facebook |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
l0l |
| 16:49 |
mircea_popescu |
he's preparing for the great progress. |
| 16:49 |
asciilifeform |
jurov's facebook full of dyspeptic middle aged ru folks ? |
| 16:49 |
jurov |
no. |
| 16:49 |
decimation |
jurov clicked "like" on "putin please don't invade slovenia"? |
| 16:50 |
jurov |
it's starry eyed putinjugend |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
ahahaha |
| 16:50 |
mircea_popescu |
actual people or just fb dead souls ? |
| 16:50 |
jurov |
actual ppl |
| 16:50 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: those have own publications, normally, full of meticulously chromed rockets of various shapes |
| 16:51 |
asciilifeform |
in one of these, it was recently claimed that БЖРК is back |
| 16:51 |
asciilifeform |
(railroad-based nuke-thrower) |
| 16:51 |
asciilifeform |
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/%D0%91%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81_%D0%91%D0%96%D0%A0%D0%9A_15%D0%9F961_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%86_(2)_-_edited.jpg << the classic |
| 16:51 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/18eYEKy ) |
| 16:52 |
asciilifeform |
^ can't see in this shot, but the middle car has eight axles instead of the usual four |
| 16:52 |
asciilifeform |
135t. |
| 16:52 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I never figured out why these went out of fashion |
| 16:52 |
asciilifeform |
still would've bent the rails if there were not a clever system of springs to spread weight to adjacent cars |
| 16:53 |
asciilifeform |
decimation: they didn't. usa spent $maxint trying to copy, but then changed their mind when realized they have scarcely any railroads |
| 16:53 |
jurov |
hehe |
| 16:53 |
asciilifeform |
so instead they went to ru after the ussr croaked and ordered these things sawed apart on camera |
| 16:53 |
asciilifeform |
'93-98 |
| 16:53 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: yeah sounds legit |
| 16:54 |
decimation |
actually usa has plenty of railroads, but none of them are open for usg to roam freely |
| 16:54 |
asciilifeform |
there is a legend, based on released usg docs of reasonable plausibility, that usg knew where the trains were at various times by sneaking neutron counters into passenger/cargo rail |
| 16:55 |
asciilifeform |
open for usg to roam freely << the rocket train was disguised (thinly) as a cargo train and went on ordinary rail |
| 16:55 |
asciilifeform |
mixed freely with usual trains |
| 16:56 |
asciilifeform |
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/12/26/barguzin << the new model is claimed to use a smaller rocket and be externally identical to a passenger car |
| 16:56 |
assbot |
Lenta.ru: Силовые структуры: Вооруженные силы: Первые «ракетные поезда» встанут на дежурство после 2018 года ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0gyrV ) |
| 16:56 |
asciilifeform |
(smaller but same range, claimed.) |
| 16:56 |
asciilifeform |
lighter payload. |
| 16:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45100 @ 0.00039549 = 17.8366 BTC [+] |
| 16:58 |
asciilifeform |
http://lenta.ru/articles/2015/02/20/fskn << ru closes their equivalent of u.s. DEA on mar 1. |
| 16:58 |
assbot |
Статьи: Lenta.ru: Силовые структуры: Полиция и спецслужбы: Есть ли будущее у госнаркоконтроля ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0gWH1 ) |
| 16:58 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform> decimation: they didn't. usa spent $maxint trying to copy, but then changed their mind when realized they have scarcely any railroads << so lulzy this. |
| 16:59 |
asciilifeform |
official story was 'budget overrun' |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"most civilised country in the civilised world, has no railroads and most of demographics replenishment comes out of cosanguine marriages" |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"welcome to 1700, you're doing pretty well!" |
| 16:59 |
asciilifeform |
comes from south of border, actually |
| 16:59 |
asciilifeform |
so not even 1700 state of the art |
| 16:59 |
decimation |
if you look at any map of the us circa 1880 or earlier all you see are railroads |
| 16:59 |
mircea_popescu |
that's exogenous. i was talking endogenous |
| 16:59 |
decimation |
then if you look at maps over time, the railroads disappear roughly 1940, to be replaced with national highways |
| 16:59 |
asciilifeform |
endogenous - from the rookeries |
| 17:01 |
decimation |
http://www.techbastard.com/missile/peacekeeper/railcar.php |
| 17:01 |
assbot |
Peacekeeper Missile Rail Garrison Car ... ( http://bit.ly/1D0hrAZ ) |
| 17:01 |
asciilifeform |
aha it |
| 17:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68713 @ 0.00039558 = 27.1815 BTC [+] {2} |
| 17:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8287 @ 0.00040197 = 3.3311 BTC [+] |
| 17:07 |
danielpbarron |
the train around where i live only exists because of subsidies; it's stupidly inexpensive to ride, and yet most people still prefer their cars |
| 17:09 |
danielpbarron |
when i had an office job, i used the train to commute; the monthly pass cost ~120 USD and I didn't even have to pay this; my employer got money from the state for covering this cost -- probably some misguided attempt to protect the environment or cut down on traffic |
| 17:12 |
chetty |
US transport is horridly set up, people prefer cars cause train and bus stations are in bad locations with no useful taxi service |
| 17:13 |
ben_vulpes |
i do love the pubtrans in my socialist paradise. |
| 17:13 |
danielpbarron |
i was within biking distance at both ends -- luck i guess |
| 17:14 |
ben_vulpes |
what is biking distance anyways? |
| 17:14 |
ben_vulpes |
.5 mi? |
| 17:14 |
ben_vulpes |
2 mi? |
| 17:14 |
ben_vulpes |
people are fucking lazy. |
| 17:14 |
danielpbarron |
5 to 10 minutes |
| 17:14 |
danielpbarron |
it was actually a 10 to 20 minute walk on one of the ends |
| 17:15 |
ben_vulpes |
re submaring/aircraftcarrier thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBi0LqgwrH8 |
| 17:15 |
assbot |
Marvel's The Avengers - Clip: Helicarrier (2012) | HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/18f0B9Q ) |
| 17:16 |
chetty |
oh and us has lack of sidewalks too, half the time you cant walk without risking life on roadsides |
| 17:17 |
danielpbarron |
in CT you run the risk of getting harassed by COPS for daring to take a walk somewhere |
| 17:17 |
danielpbarron |
walking ~= homeless |
| 17:18 |
danielpbarron |
if you want to avoid suspicion, wear yoga pants and jog |
| 17:18 |
mircea_popescu |
nuts. |
| 17:19 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122485 @ 0.00040282 = 49.3394 BTC [+] {3} |
| 17:19 |
thestringpuller |
danielpbarron: Only the homeless would be willing to brave the snow to walk somewhere... |
| 17:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00040641 = 1.2192 BTC [+] |
| 17:21 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Ginux |
| |
~ 28 minutes ~ |
| 17:49 |
mats |
https://blog.filippo.io/komodia-superfish-ssl-validation-is-broken/ |
| 17:50 |
assbot |
Komodia/Superfish SSL Validation is broken ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9fEvY ) |
| 17:53 |
mats |
not so big a deal since Windows Defender is now taking care of it, but nonetheless |
| 17:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143200 @ 0.00040675 = 58.2466 BTC [+] {2} |
| 17:59 |
danielpbarron |
mwahaha; i got the netconsole thing to work! |
| 17:59 |
danielpbarron |
v.cool |
| 18:01 |
danielpbarron |
i used this -> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-02-2015#1023615 |
| 18:01 |
assbot |
Logged on 18-02-2015 14:56:09; nubbins`: http://blog.qnology.com/2014/07/hacking-pogoplug-v4-series-4-and-mobile.html |
| 18:03 |
danielpbarron |
in the same process, I got it to boot from a memory card |
| 18:03 |
danielpbarron |
and i'd like to now try using a USB3 flash drive as the datadir |
| 18:05 |
danielpbarron |
the memory card is required in combination with USB3 because the thing cannot have a root filesystem on drives attached to the ports on the rear, and the usb on the top (next to the sata port) is USB2 |
| 18:06 |
danielpbarron |
but when the netbsd thing is ready to go, the memory card should not be necessary |
| 18:07 |
danielpbarron |
and if anyone has a pogo already and doesn't want to wait, i'd say go with debian over arch; right off the bat it looks like there's no systemd with debian |
| 18:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42815 @ 0.00040641 = 17.4004 BTC [-] |
| 18:09 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu it's not russian ye kook, it's the hammer and sickle sign << i meant this! комсомольская правда! |
| 18:09 |
pete_dushenski |
hammer and sickle is... hammer and sickle |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
komsomolskaya pravda / |
| 18:10 |
mircea_popescu |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomolskaya_Pravda |
| 18:10 |
assbot |
Komsomolskaya Pravda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1B3v31y ) |
| 18:10 |
pete_dushenski |
that'd be the one |
| 18:11 |
thestringpuller |
pete_dushenski: re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2014#735984 << from front page of bitcoin-tardland: "This project is completely open-source and I take 0 profit from it. Please note that there are more cost-effective ways of deploying full nodes and I mention that in the FAQs. This website is an experiment and an excersize on automatically deploying nodes when a certain balance is reached" |
| 18:12 |
pete_dushenski |
thestringpuller mya? |
| 18:13 |
pete_dushenski |
kake's code doesn't work anymore |
| 18:13 |
pete_dushenski |
last time i tried it at least |
| 18:14 |
punkman |
quotes from ISIS on ask.fm http://www.rferl.org/content/islamic-state-questions-askfm-western-militant-wannabes/26686817.html |
| 18:14 |
assbot |
'I Want To Wage Jihad But I Don't Have A Thing To Wear' -- Western IS Wannabes Ask Burning Questions ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9m6Dg ) |
| 18:14 |
pete_dushenski |
reference: https://bitbucket.org/pankkake/bitcoin-node/src |
| 18:14 |
assbot |
pankkake / bitcoin-node / source / — Bitbucket ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9meT1 ) |
| 18:15 |
thestringpuller |
pete_dushenski: ah i was referring to http://fullnode.co |
| 18:15 |
pete_dushenski |
a i see they're back |
| 18:15 |
pete_dushenski |
their site was down last i checked |
| 18:16 |
pete_dushenski |
a whopping 66 nodes ! wowee! |
| 18:16 |
punkman |
thestringpuller: when did assbot start ignoring your links |
| 18:17 |
punkman |
kinda confusing to see log link without assbot spitting out the line |
| 18:17 |
thestringpuller |
!gettrust kakobrekla thestringpuller |
| 18:17 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user thestringpuller: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 8 via 6 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/kakobrekla/thestringpuller | http://w.b-a.link/user/thestringpuller |
| 18:23 |
asciilifeform |
fullnode.co << who is not with us, is against us. |
| 18:23 |
asciilifeform |
(TM) |
| 18:23 |
pete_dushenski |
there's no shortage of that "in bitcoin" |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
also wtf with calling a vps fakecomputer 'full node' |
| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
may as well run one node and give it 10,000 spam ip addrs |
| 18:25 |
thestringpuller |
Blow up the datacenter, good bye nodes. |
| 18:25 |
asciilifeform |
also didn't that thing appear around the same time as 'fakenode' (?) was published ? |
| 18:25 |
asciilifeform |
pseudonode. |
| 18:25 |
thestringpuller |
i think fullnode is a little older than pseudonode |
| 18:25 |
pete_dushenski |
o what words mean things now ? |
| 18:25 |
asciilifeform |
is it having any sizeable listing older than pseudonode ? |
| 18:26 |
thestringpuller |
it was before pankakke ragequit? |
| 18:26 |
asciilifeform |
speaking of, anyone know what became of herr pankkake ? |
| 18:26 |
pete_dushenski |
he's been even quiter than thickasthieves |
| 18:27 |
asciilifeform |
and did anyone ever come up with a logical explanation for his rage ? |
| 18:27 |
pete_dushenski |
tat still seems to do the twitter thing |
| 18:27 |
pete_dushenski |
asciilifeform ya, he didn't like the flavour of punch we were serving |
| 18:27 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: i think pseudonode is kinda like https://github.com/mattdiamond/fuckitjs and more of a comedy measure and not srsbsns |
| 18:27 |
* |
asciilifeform observes that it is not necessary to drink the punch to enjoy the company |
| 18:28 |
pete_dushenski |
but you're not french |
| 18:28 |
mats |
while we're on the subject, pankkake on fullnode: http://pankkake.headfucking.net/2014/06/27/fullnode-co-is-a-scam |
| 18:28 |
assbot |
Fullnode.co is a scam | pankkake ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9pFZU ) |
| 18:28 |
asciilifeform |
thestringpuller: pseudonode works as printed on the tin |
| 18:28 |
punkman |
pseudonode also useful for DoS experiments and such |
| 18:28 |
thestringpuller |
asciilifeform: still not srsbsns tho! it's a joke! |
| 18:29 |
thestringpuller |
don't be kanye, nao. |
| 18:29 |
asciilifeform |
the joke's on naive node counters |
| 18:29 |
thestringpuller |
^- exactly that's why it's funny! |
| 18:33 |
pete_dushenski |
are there non-naive node counters ? or a way to count nodes non-naively ? |
| 18:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39150 @ 0.0004039 = 15.8127 BTC [-] {2} |
| 18:40 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28190 @ 0.00040818 = 11.5066 BTC [+] |
| 18:40 |
pete_dushenski |
mircea_popescu socialism is somethin you want when you're stupid, because you're stupid, and as your brain starts working you stop wanting it./ << lol so money. |
| 18:41 |
mircea_popescu |
yep |
| 18:43 |
ben_vulpes |
|
| 18:43 |
ben_vulpes |
<asciilifeform> may as well run one node and give it 10,000 spam ip addrs << you wrecker, you! |
| 18:44 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> may as well run one node and give it 10,000 spam ip addrs << this is part of the problem, and why the 61 figure is an upper bound |
| 18:44 |
mircea_popescu |
plenty of perfectly legitimately netops reasons to show the same server on multiple - and perhaps changing - ips |
| 18:46 |
mircea_popescu |
!gettrust assbot pankkake |
| 18:46 |
assbot |
Trust relationship from user assbot to user pankkake: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 6 via 6 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/pankkake | http://w.b-a.link/user/pankkake |
| 18:46 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently quitting doesn't actually do anything. |
| 18:46 |
thestringpuller |
Mafia-eque |
| 18:47 |
thestringpuller |
mircea_popescu: I guess if the boys still play with Cartman, despite... |
| 18:48 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je-CPZRwbh8 << sheeit, apparently garbage still exists. |
| 18:48 |
assbot |
Garbage - When I Grow Up - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9v5UK ) |
| 18:54 |
mircea_popescu |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFTGfwJNmM << finally found the right fucking version. |
| 18:54 |
assbot |
Garbage - When I Grow Up (Live) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9wKdb ) |
| 18:54 |
mircea_popescu |
wtf is wrong with people, bowdlerisation of everytrhing everywhere all the fucking time. |
| 18:55 |
mircea_popescu |
obscure grunge-pop band from wisconsin, they re-release their pre 2000 songs to sound like shit. and not sort-of like shit. actually fucking shit, audibly so. you don't even have to be an opera critic with 20 different mezzo and coloratura sopranos under your belt. |
| 18:55 |
cazalla |
http://qntra.net/2015/02/bitcoin-mining-difficulty-reaches-yet-another-ath/ |
| 18:55 |
assbot |
Bitcoin Mining Difficulty Reaches Yet Another ATH | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1D9x6jQ ) |
| 19:00 |
pete_dushenski |
go bitcoin! |
| 19:01 |
pete_dushenski |
though 'ath' parses quite a bit like defunct 'atc' but that's probably just me |
| 19:03 |
ben_vulpes |
or atf |
| 19:06 |
cazalla |
i unno, i figured it was obvious |
| 19:06 |
cazalla |
at least in the context of qntra and having used all time high and ath a few times before in qntra articles |
| 19:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9281 @ 0.00040818 = 3.7883 BTC [+] |
| 19:07 |
cazalla |
pete_dushenski, don't you know that variety speak? :P |
| 19:08 |
pete_dushenski |
lol still learning apparently |
| 19:08 |
pete_dushenski |
which reminds me that i've been meaning to do a variety speak guide for noobs... |
| 19:09 |
pete_dushenski |
it's just... there's so many goddam words and phrases |
| 19:09 |
pete_dushenski |
it'd be a textbook |
| 19:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14125 @ 0.00040437 = 5.7117 BTC [-] |
| 19:24 |
cazalla |
mebe ath is more a gamer thing, for example, muh dps hit an ath |
| 19:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00040818 = 3.8573 BTC [+] |
| 19:27 |
pete_dushenski |
http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/22/in-defense-of-wealthy-politicians/ |
| 19:27 |
assbot |
In defense of wealthy politicians. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/17oH0mz ) |
| 19:28 |
pete_dushenski |
that they need any defense at all should be a red flag to society |
| 19:30 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14800 @ 0.00040818 = 6.0411 BTC [+] |
| 19:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4034 @ 0.00040437 = 1.6312 BTC [-] |
| 19:47 |
BingoBoingo |
;;bc,stats |
| 19:47 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 344740 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 2011 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 6 days, 5 hours, 31 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44645581059.8 | Estimated Percent Change: -4.36719 |
| 19:47 |
oglafbot |
http://oglaf.com/rally/ |
| |
↖ |
| 19:47 |
assbot |
Rally 'round the white flag ... ( http://bit.ly/1AkwsQP ) |
| 19:51 |
BingoBoingo |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 19:52 |
indiancandy1 |
does anyone kno anything about |
| 19:52 |
indiancandy1 |
bots that increase hits on utube |
| 19:53 |
BingoBoingo |
I don't know much more than they apparently exist |
| 19:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50200 @ 0.00040818 = 20.4906 BTC [+] |
| 20:00 |
cazalla |
indiancandy1, can probably be had for cheap on fiverr |
| 20:01 |
cazalla |
you'll also be needing a time machine to go back to 2008 for when youtube ranked videos solely on views alone |
| 20:06 |
BingoBoingo |
!up aegis |
| 20:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00040818 = 2.7756 BTC [+] |
| 20:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!up starzz_ |
| 20:13 |
starzz_ |
thank you |
| 20:15 |
starzz_ |
if I have been everified in bitcoin-otc does that translate to bitcoin assets |
| 20:16 |
BingoBoingo |
starzz_: It does with gribble, but for voice here you need to send assbot !up |
| 20:16 |
BingoBoingo |
starzz_: Also you probably want to go to #freenode and request a cloak, some asshole intermittently runs a DoS bot here |
| 20:25 |
BingoBoingo |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 20:25 |
indiancandy1 |
im not doinit for utube ranking |
| 20:25 |
indiancandy1 |
im doing it 4 |
| 20:25 |
indiancandy1 |
media |
| 20:25 |
indiancandy1 |
ahaha |
| 20:25 |
indiancandy1 |
i wanna do a twerk video |
| 20:25 |
indiancandy1 |
then di news around it |
| 20:25 |
indiancandy1 |
3mill hit in 3days |
| 20:26 |
indiancandy1 |
etc |
| 20:26 |
ben_vulpes |
do it in the nude, only way to get that kind of traffic. |
| 20:26 |
indiancandy1 |
it wont go on thew news |
| 20:27 |
indiancandy1 |
media wont pick it up |
| 20:27 |
indiancandy1 |
if its nude |
| 20:27 |
ben_vulpes |
you're competing with kim kardashian, after all. |
| 20:27 |
ben_vulpes |
tell that to kim. |
| 20:28 |
indiancandy1 |
kim |
| 20:28 |
indiancandy1 |
has media on payroll |
| 20:28 |
indiancandy1 |
i dont |
| 20:28 |
BingoBoingo |
indiancandy1: You know how she got them on payroll... |
| 20:29 |
indiancandy1 |
but kim initially had money |
| 20:29 |
indiancandy1 |
i dont |
| 20:29 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.00040818 = 8.8983 BTC [+] |
| 20:29 |
ben_vulpes |
such sexcuses. |
| 20:29 |
BingoBoingo |
indiancandy1: No she didn't. Not until she made that flick with Ray J |
| 20:30 |
indiancandy1 |
her dad |
| 20:30 |
indiancandy1 |
was oj simpsons attorney |
| 20:30 |
indiancandy1 |
she came from a middle class family |
| 20:31 |
indiancandy1 |
the porn did help |
| 20:31 |
indiancandy1 |
she sold it for 5mill |
| 20:31 |
indiancandy1 |
but she had money b4 |
| 20:31 |
indiancandy1 |
i dnt |
| 20:32 |
ben_vulpes |
you gotta drop this "can't do anything cuz no money lol" attitude and focus on getting some money. |
| 20:33 |
indiancandy1 |
yea |
| 20:33 |
indiancandy1 |
but |
| 20:33 |
indiancandy1 |
yea |
| 20:33 |
indiancandy1 |
i need hits |
| 20:33 |
ben_vulpes |
!b 5 |
| 20:33 |
assbot |
Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2KHHJJC.txt ) |
| 20:33 |
indiancandy1 |
so the media wil pick it |
| 20:33 |
indiancandy1 |
ytview chargs 6000 dollars |
| 20:33 |
danielpbarron |
you are getting hits right now.. |
| 20:33 |
indiancandy1 |
for 3million |
| 20:33 |
ben_vulpes |
don't fuck around trying to get the attention of interns in tv companies, that's not going to fly. |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
whose on instagram btw |
| 20:34 |
ben_vulpes |
go fuck a television company executive, wrap him around your finger, leverage like that. |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
i have a publicist |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
lol |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
but the media wont pick it up |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
if its not like wow |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
2mill hits in 3days |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
wow |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
kinda thing |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
unless i pay |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
the media |
| 20:34 |
indiancandy1 |
and tats costly |
| 20:34 |
danielpbarron |
can you try to condense your thoughts into single lines? |
| 20:35 |
BingoBoingo |
indiancandy1: Have you considered dating a rapper? |
| 20:35 |
BingoBoingo |
Works for Kim |
| 20:37 |
indiancandy1 |
no rappers in uk |
| 20:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5961 @ 0.0004118 = 2.4547 BTC [+] |
| 20:39 |
indiancandy1 |
whose on instagram |
| 20:39 |
asciilifeform |
pete_dushenski: wealthy politicians << u.s. folks perhaps remember perot ? interesting fella |
| 20:40 |
pete_dushenski |
;;google ross perot |
| 20:40 |
gribble |
Ross Perot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot>; H. Ross Perot - Famous Texans: <http://www.famoustexans.com/rossperot.htm>; Ross Perot - Biography - Business Leader - Biography.com: <http://www.biography.com/people/ross-perot-9438032> |
| 20:40 |
pete_dushenski |
'computer billionaire' |
| 20:42 |
asciilifeform |
usg billionaire |
| 20:42 |
pete_dushenski |
bon soir! |
| |
~ 25 minutes ~ |
| 21:08 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.0004118 = 1.5031 BTC [+] |
| 21:08 |
BingoBoingo |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 21:18 |
punkman |
indiancandy1: no rappers in uk << plenty of them but they are all poor |
| 21:18 |
punkman |
on the other hand, London's full of people with way too much money |
| 21:21 |
TheNewDeal |
;;Bids 216.9 |
| 21:21 |
gribble |
Bitstamp | There are currently 4390.3307 bitcoins demanded at or over 216.9 USD, worth 993477.3393 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0440 seconds |
| 21:21 |
decimation |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/just-asking-the-science-guy-bill-nye-gets-hot/2015/02/11/1e278afa-a66c-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html < Bill Nye identifies 'regular software writers' as kulaks "We have this top tier [of scientists] in the U.S., the people who graduated from Stanford, from Berkeley, from MIT, Cornell. Those people are still exceptional and really good. But we have this enormous gap between that and |
| 21:21 |
assbot |
Just Asking: The Science Guy Bill Nye gets hot - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZy9yj ) |
| 21:21 |
decimation |
just regular software writers |
| 21:21 |
decimation |
and farmers and people that need to be scientifically literate." |
| 21:21 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker --market all |
| 21:21 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 236.5, vol: 7821.09675746 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 230.106, vol: 7852.57648 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 237.07, vol: 31142.23300928 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 235.8784, vol: 138020.38710000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 235.0, vol: 21.3968592 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 233.964227, vol: 77.03579533 | Volume-weighted last average: 235.85934577 |
| 21:30 |
TheNewDeal |
;;Ticker |
| 21:30 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 235.98, Best ask: 236.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.77000, Last trade: 236.88, 24 hour volume: 7857.00240715, 24 hour low: 232.48, 24 hour high: 247.0, 24 hour vwap: 237.411802714 |
| 21:31 |
nubbins` |
re: uboot on pogo |
| 21:31 |
mircea_popescu |
indiancandy1 how goes ho! |
| 21:31 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: hm? |
| 21:31 |
nubbins` |
http://blog.qnology.com/2014/07/hacking-pogoplug-v4-series-4-and-mobile.html |
| 21:31 |
assbot |
Qui's techNOLOGY Blog: Hacking the Pogoplug v4 (Series 4 and Mobile) with Linux (Debian or Arch) ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZyYqB ) |
| 21:32 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: yes, i think it was linked here a while ago |
| 21:32 |
* |
asciilifeform presently investigating why netbsd does not correctly initialize sata or sd controllers |
| 21:33 |
mircea_popescu |
!up dek_ |
| 21:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13048 @ 0.00040876 = 5.3335 BTC [-] |
| 21:34 |
indiancandy1 |
hey mp bae |
| 21:34 |
indiancandy1 |
i miss u |
| 21:35 |
dek_ |
hello |
| 21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
so where's your twerking vid ? |
| 21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
how goes dek_ |
| 21:36 |
mats |
hm, i learned today you can prepend your prompt with a ':' and have a ';' at the end, it will ignore whats in between so you can just copy and paste lines right from your terminal |
| 21:36 |
danielpbarron |
nubbins`, did you ever get that to work? |
| 21:36 |
nubbins` |
danielpbarron yeah, it's serving up files via smb right now |
| 21:37 |
danielpbarron |
oh.. but not bitcoind ? |
| 21:37 |
nubbins` |
no, actually useful enough around the house that i'll need to get a second one for tinkering |
| 21:37 |
nubbins` |
:/ |
| 21:37 |
danielpbarron |
bitcoind: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found (required by bitcoind) |
| 21:37 |
nubbins` |
well, wait now. |
| 21:38 |
nubbins` |
didn't alf post some binaries to the ml? |
| 21:38 |
nubbins` |
danielpbarron +1 |
| 21:38 |
danielpbarron |
and that's after i added a 'testing' repository to the sources list and upgraded libc |
| 21:38 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins`> no, actually useful enough around the house that i'll need to get a second one for tinkering << ahahaha |
| 21:38 |
nubbins` |
XD |
| 21:38 |
BingoBoingo |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 21:39 |
danielpbarron |
not that this is even what's gonna be used ultimately; i thought i'd just try it out real quick and it ended up becoming an obsession |
| 21:39 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: those were -wrong- |
| 21:39 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
| 21:39 |
TheNewDeal |
;;bc,stats |
| 21:39 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 344752 | Current Difficulty: 4.668437631686029E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 346751 | Next Difficulty In: 1999 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes, and 21 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 48520572098.1 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.93321 |
| 21:39 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: use mod6's recipe for building -properly- static ones |
| 21:39 |
nubbins` |
you're not trying to compile it on the pogo itself, are you? |
| 21:39 |
danielpbarron |
no |
| 21:39 |
danielpbarron |
i'm using the binary i cross-compiled on my gentoo machine |
| 21:40 |
nubbins` |
okay, was gonna say.. 8) |
| 21:40 |
danielpbarron |
the same binary that works on ArchLinux |
| 21:40 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, seems like all the bsd folks disable the cpu cache on pogo |
| 21:40 |
asciilifeform |
i'd like to learn why |
| 21:40 |
asciilifeform |
but see also: |
| 21:40 |
asciilifeform |
!s the lifeboat mutiny |
| 21:40 |
assbot |
2 results for 'the lifeboat mutiny' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=the+lifeboat+mutiny |
| 21:40 |
asciilifeform |
^ on the pitfalls of reconnecting that which has been yanked |
| 21:41 |
nubbins` |
... |
| 21:41 |
nubbins` |
is the pitfall incomplete search results? |
| 21:41 |
nubbins` |
o, wait. there we go. |
| 21:41 |
mod6 |
this was never actually posted publically yet. there is some very strange bjam error that doesn't allow the bash script to continue automatically. if one runs it, then you'll have to comment out the build lines for openssl, bdb, and boost and re-run. |
| 21:42 |
mod6 |
I can post it if you wanna use it though. the hope was to have a fixed one here by sometime next week. |
| 21:42 |
asciilifeform |
post plz |
| 21:42 |
mircea_popescu |
indiancandy1: but she had money b4 << girl's done her homework. |
| 21:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Less than 6 months left for 0.7.2 WTF to finish syncing |
| 21:43 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: what machine ? |
| 21:43 |
mod6 |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7MXmP2ba |
| 21:43 |
assbot |
... ( http://bit.ly/1zZA5Xt ) |
| 21:43 |
mircea_popescu |
indiancandy1: ytview chargs 6000 dollars << you're prolly going to end up stuck around that sort of price, quarter cent per k, whatever. |
| 21:43 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Pedestrian AMD powered laptop AMD E-350 CPU |
| 21:43 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: what's the actual transfer rate ? |
| 21:43 |
asciilifeform |
on the wire |
| 21:44 |
mod6 |
sorry, damn hotel wireless keeps dropping me like every 90 seconds. |
| 21:44 |
danielpbarron |
so is it possible that i need to recompile my bitcoind, and this debian install is just fine? and for some reason ArchLinux doesn't mind? |
| 21:44 |
asciilifeform |
is it connecting preferentially to nodes in afghanistan, ip over dead goat ? |
| 21:44 |
* |
mod6 is on-the-road |
| 21:44 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: if i had build that thing properly static, it would not be an issue |
| 21:44 |
asciilifeform |
*built |
| 21:44 |
nubbins` |
dgoip |
| 21:44 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: I honestly and humbly lack the faculties of knowledge necessary to determine such |
| 21:45 |
asciilifeform |
hmm |
| 21:45 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: have you tried restricting it to one known-good node on the lan to sync from ? |
| 21:45 |
mircea_popescu |
decimation: Bill Nye identifies 'regular software writers' << afaik this view was never controversial. i was kinda surprised to see people react to my ocasional statement to the effect with total shock. |
| 21:46 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Nope, syncing "in the wild" to make sure it can. Looking like it will be a sub 2 week sync time so happy with that |
| 21:46 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo et al: the way i'm thinking now, the 'sync from one node at a time' thing will have to be killed with fire before 0.5.3/pogo (or otherwise) is given to civilians |
| 21:46 |
asciilifeform |
just like the memory leak |
| 21:46 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Seems so |
| 21:46 |
asciilifeform |
because having it there - it is just unforgivable idiocy |
| 21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah |
| 21:46 |
mod6 |
the static build script seems to exit after line 53 for some reason, haven't had time to debug. if one should figure out a workaround/fix/patch for that, that'd be much appreciated. otherwise I can fix myself when I'm back. |
| 21:46 |
mircea_popescu |
problem is... not that straughtforward fix |
| 21:47 |
asciilifeform |
aha, requires sewing not only ripping |
| 21:47 |
asciilifeform |
ripping - easy |
| 21:47 |
mod6 |
be advised that lines 4, 6 & 8 of that script need to be tuned to your local environment! |
| 21:47 |
mod6 |
:] |
| 21:47 |
asciilifeform |
bad enough that i'm apparently chasing a low-level bit diddling bug in a sata driver for a godforsaken chip on a godforsaken os |
| 21:48 |
asciilifeform |
how did i fall into such a life. |
| 21:48 |
asciilifeform |
and would any of you care to do this instead |
| 21:48 |
mircea_popescu |
man with young children. "how did i fall into such a life!" |
| 21:49 |
mircea_popescu |
cuz you liked teh woman, foo. |
| 21:49 |
nubbins` |
sadly, the cheapest pogo a canadian can land is $25usd |
| 21:49 |
nubbins` |
still notu badu |
| 21:50 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: and which one was that |
| 21:50 |
mod6 |
anyway, the foundation will publish a polished script sometime during the first few weeks of march. |
| 21:50 |
nubbins` |
blue "mobile", no lid. ebay. |
| 21:50 |
mod6 |
sorry I didn't get a chance to clean that up before I left. |
| 21:51 |
nubbins` |
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pogoplug-POGO-V4-A1-01-Mobile-for-PC-MAC-and-iPhone-iPad-/261410065617?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cdd410cd1#shpCntId |
| 21:51 |
assbot |
Pogoplug Pogo V4 A1 01 Mobile FOR PC MAC AND Iphone Ipad 850877002290 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZAM2U ) |
| 21:51 |
nubbins` |
er no removable lid |
| 21:51 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: sata-less |
| 21:51 |
nubbins` |
nod |
| 21:52 |
nubbins` |
right, someone mentioned the exercise in patience i have awaiting me |
| 21:52 |
nubbins` |
~$35usd for sata-ful |
| 21:53 |
asciilifeform |
nubbins`: can't order from usian 'amazon' ? |
| 21:53 |
mod6 |
for the vi-impared, if you run the script as-is, and you hit that weird issue as I did, simply start up vi and run this |
| 21:53 |
mod6 |
:35,53 s/^/#/ |
| 21:53 |
asciilifeform |
or killer postage cost |
| 21:53 |
nubbins` |
well, no, maybe the same |
| 21:53 |
mod6 |
then :wq and re-run the script |
| 21:53 |
nubbins` |
asciilifeform most electronic items simply do not offer a checkout button for canadians |
| 21:53 |
danielpbarron |
what is shipping from US to CA? |
| 21:53 |
nubbins` |
danielpbarron insanely cheap for everything but electronics. |
| 21:53 |
asciilifeform |
i've never had problems getting items from ca |
| 21:53 |
nubbins` |
phun phact, we order most of our paper from brooklyn |
| 21:53 |
danielpbarron |
how would they know? |
| 21:54 |
danielpbarron |
i mean from me to you |
| 21:54 |
nubbins` |
how would the shippers know? |
| 21:54 |
nubbins` |
o. |
| 21:54 |
nubbins` |
the customs form, i guess |
| 21:54 |
nubbins` |
i don't think there's any special duty or anything, just american electronics websites usually charge limbs to .ca |
| 21:55 |
nubbins` |
you mailing me ten packaged pogos would raise eyebrows at customs |
| 21:55 |
danielpbarron |
eh, unless you're getting more than one it's probably not worth it anyway for just 15 bucks |
| 21:55 |
nubbins` |
yeah |
| 21:55 |
mircea_popescu |
so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ? |
| 21:55 |
mod6 |
last note: this is all predicated on the fact that one would have run the v0.0.8 perl script to patch the R.I. So you might need to alter line 62 to point to the correct bitcoin build directory. |
| 21:55 |
nubbins` |
it really is only like another $8 for the purple logo'd one, hey? |
| 21:55 |
danielpbarron |
yes |
| 21:56 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu> so i'm banning both clam shitcoin and cryptsy from bitbet. anyone want to argue either ? << Surprised Cryptsy didn't hit the shitlist earlier |
| 21:56 |
asciilifeform |
what even was it... |
| 21:56 |
nubbins` |
i feel like i have a sata drive from my last laptop somewhere |
| 21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
me too. i guess nobody cared. |
| 21:56 |
nubbins` |
it drank a beer |
| 21:57 |
danielpbarron |
that's the idea / that most people probably have a harddrive they can rip out of an old laptop |
| 21:57 |
nubbins` |
danielpbarron in fact, if i order two pogos on ebay, it automatically adds import charges |
| 21:57 |
nubbins` |
one pogo, no charges |
| 21:58 |
nubbins` |
dem regulations |
| 21:58 |
asciilifeform |
danielpbarron: that was precisely why i wanted the sata feature, yes |
| 21:58 |
danielpbarron |
how much would 2 cost you? |
| 21:58 |
nubbins` |
overall slightly cheaper per unit than ordering one |
| 21:58 |
danielpbarron |
even with the extra charge? |
| 21:59 |
nubbins` |
added import charges, marginally higher shipping cost |
| 21:59 |
nubbins` |
yep |
| 21:59 |
danielpbarron |
fwiw, my profession is shipping/recieving |
| 21:59 |
danielpbarron |
specifically LTL |
| 21:59 |
mircea_popescu |
haha cool. |
| 22:00 |
* |
BingoBoingo sees need for WoT endorsed BTC courier service. If in 2 years does not exist and BTCexchange rate/Qntra workload stabilizes may consider |
| 22:01 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12250 @ 0.0004118 = 5.0446 BTC [+] |
| 22:01 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: might be one of those 'requires fortress' things |
| 22:01 |
mircea_popescu |
danielpbarron srsly, mayhap make a business out of it ? btc clearance warehouse |
| 22:01 |
danielpbarron |
i had that idea last year |
| 22:01 |
mircea_popescu |
"ship me anything you want, ask for anything you want" |
| 22:01 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Right. Obstacle is pricing drug fucks out of service. |
| 22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
add a storage service to it, etc. |
| 22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
"leaving the us to go chase the republic ? ship me your shit. ill store or sell it" |
| 22:02 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo wot only. |
| 22:02 |
asciilifeform |
bitmule |
| 22:03 |
nubbins` |
danielpbarron hmm |
| 22:03 |
nubbins` |
what can we work out here :D |
| 22:04 |
mircea_popescu |
!up dek_ |
| 22:06 |
BingoBoingo |
mod6: You know once 0.5.3.x stabilizes there's probably an opportunity for driving utilization by submitting it to various *BSD Ports trees as bitcoind-LTS |
| 22:07 |
nubbins` |
:o |
| 22:07 |
mircea_popescu |
implying anyone but us uses bsd |
| 22:07 |
asciilifeform |
^l0l |
| 22:08 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, appliance use of various BSD's is not uncommon |
| 22:08 |
mircea_popescu |
right. |
| 22:08 |
asciilifeform |
i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us |
| 22:09 |
mircea_popescu |
how ? we'd just join. |
| 22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
Old desktop + OpenBSD pf = loadbalancer sort of thing/ |
| 22:09 |
* |
asciilifeform joins |
| 22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 22:09 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> i can already picture 'teh phyootur' where the ada-on-bare-metal meta-foundation(tm) is laughing at us << Irony of USG sponsored Ada saving the world from C is delicious |
| 22:10 |
asciilifeform |
earlier usg |
| 22:11 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Not so much earlier as to be alien or ancient. I mean they were propping up dementia guy from the TV ads as a figurehead |
| 22:11 |
asciilifeform |
(also can talk about att being every bit as 'usg' as any ministry, at the time of being a national telecom megamonopoly) |
| 22:11 |
mircea_popescu |
gunnery sargeant hartmann usg |
| 22:12 |
asciilifeform |
orwell more or less spot on - nothing happened in the 20th c. except as nominally decreed in some mega-empire or other |
| 22:13 |
mircea_popescu |
like btc. |
| 22:13 |
asciilifeform |
in the loose sense where what happened at bell had anything to do with the throne |
| 22:13 |
mircea_popescu |
o sorry you said 20th |
| 22:13 |
asciilifeform |
20th! |
| 22:18 |
asciilifeform |
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/fa.netbsd.tech.kern/8K8OcXVxyXM |
| 22:18 |
assbot |
Google Discussiegroepen ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB24aY ) |
| 22:18 |
asciilifeform |
^ what i'm seeing with my entire collection of sata drives |
| 22:18 |
asciilifeform |
netbsd is unusable unless+until this is fixed |
| 22:18 |
asciilifeform |
on pogo. |
| 22:19 |
BingoBoingo |
!up hanbot |
| 22:19 |
BingoBoingo |
!up paxtoncamaro91 |
| 22:21 |
indiancandy1 |
im watchin a movie |
| 22:21 |
indiancandy1 |
rocknrola |
| 22:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42461 @ 0.00041362 = 17.5627 BTC [+] {3} |
| 22:23 |
|
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| 22:25 |
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| 22:30 |
mircea_popescu |
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2007/11/the_question_isnt_why_do_babie.html#c039912 |
| 22:30 |
assbot |
The Last Psychiatrist: The Question Isn't Why Do Babies Do It ... ( http://bit.ly/1EGMVyh ) |
| 22:31 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: Ah, no those books aren't albums. Just pulp. Titles on the spines look great on the bookshelf though. Cover art isn't bad either |
| 22:32 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: wtf, i'd fail this test even now. who's to say that 'climber' is really being 'helped' by being pushed up |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
and this is supposed to be clear to a baby ? |
| 22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
it's fucking stupid is whjat it is |
| 22:33 |
ben_vulpes |
y'r thinkin too hard, alf |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
it's rubbish |
| 22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
it IS clear to a baby, but only because babies are retards. |
| 22:33 |
asciilifeform |
unadulterated rubbish |
| 22:33 |
ben_vulpes |
it's supposed to validate the underlying thesis. |
| 22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
this neoprotestant platonic pedophilia is outright obscene |
| 22:33 |
mircea_popescu |
ESPECIALLY in the context of how agitated they are about fucking children. |
| 22:37 |
nubbins` |
why did this guy stop updating his blog |
| 22:37 |
BingoBoingo |
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps.html |
| 22:37 |
assbot |
The Last Psychiatrist: Hipsters On Food Stamps, Part 1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB5p9Z ) |
| 22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
alf's forced theory is that he got paid infinity whores & blows to run all the meta-usg |
| 22:37 |
nubbins` |
how pedestrian an end |
| 22:37 |
mircea_popescu |
even if that happened... he's not actually good enough. |
| 22:38 |
asciilifeform |
nah gewagenen |
| 22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
no wai. |
| 22:38 |
nubbins` |
prolly got fed up and moved to the woods |
| 22:38 |
mircea_popescu |
listen, there's not that much hr available. given your other beliefs you are required to believe he's the lizard hitler now. |
| 22:38 |
nubbins` |
i wonder what book /he/ took |
| 22:39 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` shaw |
| 22:40 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.michaelwlucas.com/autobiography/the-porn-star |
| 22:40 |
assbot |
The Porn Star « Michael W Lucas ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB5Wsy ) |
| 22:40 |
asciilifeform |
neh, his reptilian majesty is too pumped on meth and playing 'space invaders' with live gurlz to be tlp |
| 22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
orly. |
| 22:40 |
mircea_popescu |
guy admits to being a drunk... |
| 22:41 |
asciilifeform |
stalins don't drink. only yeltsins drink |
| 22:41 |
asciilifeform |
or at least, take to drink |
| 22:41 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> guy admits to being a drunk... << Most drunks do. Drunks are braggarts. |
| 22:41 |
mircea_popescu |
notice that there's no space for lizard hitler being any kind of stalin. |
| 22:42 |
BingoBoingo |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 22:42 |
asciilifeform |
but sure, the lizarditude of the observable universe is a bit much to fit in a man-sized bucket. sorta like the apparent limit to achievable magnetic field density.. |
| 22:43 |
indiancandy1 |
im buyin 1000 instagram followers |
| 22:43 |
indiancandy1 |
for 5 dollars |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
indiancandy1: why?! |
| 22:44 |
asciilifeform |
indiancandy1: at least read 'Spam Like A Pro In 21 Days' first. |
| 22:44 |
indiancandy1 |
whats that |
| 22:44 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.michaelwlucas.com/autobiography/the-thumbs |
| 22:45 |
assbot |
The Thumbs « Michael W Lucas ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB6Hln ) |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo re the name, i definitely got that one pat. no romanian's ever going to be a contender. and that mircea chick really faded after a brief moment of fame |
| 22:45 |
indiancandy1 |
spam like a pro |
| 22:45 |
danielpbarron |
i tried to buy twitter followers on the silk road once, but canceled when the guy couldn't decrypt the GPG message containing the username (not for my account / i was trying to freak out an associate of mine who takes twitter way too seriously despite having only 50 followers) |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
which, coincidentally or not, centers on me writing an article about her |
| 22:45 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: I dunno, that artist and his blawg... |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
yaya |
| 22:45 |
indiancandy1 |
wat is spam like a pro |
| 22:45 |
mircea_popescu |
indiancandy1 basically he's saying this is a full time job and you won't be seeing any roi as an amateur |
| 22:46 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 3 |
| 22:46 |
assbot |
Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3M7MFCN.txt ) |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
dear kiyohara takashi, wtf. sincerely, |
| 22:47 |
asciilifeform |
everyone |
| 22:47 |
indiancandy1 |
roi? |
| 22:47 |
BingoBoingo |
indiancandy1: Return on Investment |
| 22:47 |
danielpbarron |
indiancandy1, btw -- bought followers are worthless; they don't get you impressions or engagements. it just makes the number on your profile look big (so what) |
| 22:48 |
mircea_popescu |
return on investment |
| 22:48 |
indiancandy1 |
3pound |
| 22:48 |
indiancandy1 |
is not a loss |
| 22:48 |
asciilifeform |
indiancandy1: do you drive a car? when you go to a petrol pump, do you pay them to fill your tank? or to wind your gauge to 'full' by hand ? |
| 22:48 |
indiancandy1 |
i dont drive |
| 22:48 |
indiancandy1 |
lol |
| 22:48 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
could be why having problem grasping the concept |
| 22:49 |
mircea_popescu |
well, she's trying to do something. which in principle is sane, better do something than nothing at all. |
| 22:49 |
indiancandy1 |
lol |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
nobody alive does 'nothing at all' |
| 22:49 |
indiancandy1 |
aww mp sticking up 4 me |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
everybody's trying 'something' |
| 22:49 |
asciilifeform |
afaik |
| 22:51 |
asciilifeform |
http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/ic/mvsata.c?annotate=1.34&only_with_tag=MAIN |
| 22:51 |
assbot |
src/sys/dev/ic/mvsata.c - annotate - 1.34 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB7RgI ) |
| 22:52 |
mircea_popescu |
indiancandy1 you got twitch ? or how the fuck is that ipad dating app called |
| 22:52 |
indiancandy1 |
what |
| 22:52 |
indiancandy1 |
twich? |
| 22:52 |
indiancandy1 |
never heard of it |
| 22:53 |
indiancandy1 |
im not down with the cool kids |
| 22:53 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google wtf is that stupid ipad dating app called |
| 22:53 |
gribble |
Oh God, I Spent $494.04 Playing the Kim Kardashian Hollywood App: <http://jezebel.com/oh-god-i-spent-494-04-playing-the-kim-kardashian-holl-1597154346>; Talking Angela iPhone app scare spreads on Facebook | Naked ...: <https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2013/02/25/talking-angela-iphone-app-scare/>; 7+ Frustrating Things in iOS 8 and What To Do About Them: (1 more message) |
| 22:53 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: tinder |
| 22:53 |
indiancandy1 |
tell me more |
| 22:53 |
asciilifeform |
mats described it here |
| 22:53 |
indiancandy1 |
no i dont do u ? |
| 22:53 |
danielpbarron |
#LeftSwipeDat |
| 22:53 |
mircea_popescu |
indiancandy1 : buy borrow or steal an ipad ; install tinder ; go out wtih ALL the guys, insist they promote you on their social media. |
| 22:54 |
danielpbarron |
the app is so popular, the truth anti-smoking ads assume you're already familiar with it |
| 22:54 |
indiancandy1 |
ahaha |
| 22:54 |
mircea_popescu |
do at least 3 a day, that's 20 a week. a month later you got mommentum plus enough dining out experience to start your own cooking blog |
| 22:54 |
mircea_popescu |
now go. |
| 22:54 |
indiancandy1 |
o my |
| 22:54 |
indiancandy1 |
mp |
| 22:54 |
indiancandy1 |
ur so funny |
| 22:54 |
* |
danielpbarron has never seen, let alone used tinder |
| 22:54 |
mircea_popescu |
im not joking. |
| 22:54 |
indiancandy1 |
is it for casual sex |
| 22:55 |
mircea_popescu |
yes. it's for casual sex with geeky derps. |
| 22:55 |
BingoBoingo |
Swipe right every day, #YesAllWomen |
| 22:55 |
danielpbarron |
hahahaha |
| 22:55 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: that's rich, lol. rather like saying that spam is for nigerians to become millionaires |
| 22:55 |
danielpbarron |
wait is that not a joke.. is that what that hashtag meant? |
| 22:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i bet you that if she had the mettle to obey me exactly she'd have that viral she wants. |
| 22:56 |
asciilifeform |
quite likely |
| 22:56 |
mircea_popescu |
the problem is, you don't get the girl in a position to execute without the basement halfyear. |
| 22:56 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: Not a joke. |
| 22:57 |
BingoBoingo |
danielpbarron: The statement preceeding the hashtag is literally what the hashtag is all about |
| 22:57 |
indiancandy1 |
nigerians do yahoo yahoo it involves witchcraft |
| 22:57 |
indiancandy1 |
there are actually witchdoctors that specialise in this 419 thing |
| 22:57 |
asciilifeform |
since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh? |
| 22:57 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform it provides structure for the conversation. |
| 22:58 |
indiancandy1 |
it works on gprs |
| 22:58 |
indiancandy1 |
so basically seeking locals |
| 22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> since we're on the subject, could someone enlighten me re: how 'tinder' does anything once the counterparties meet in the flesh? << Not in its spec. Hands this off to wetware |
| 22:58 |
mircea_popescu |
you're not going to say "how bout those metz" not because you're not dumb enough to do that, which you are, but because you're not smart enough to think ot the metz. |
| 22:58 |
asciilifeform |
but that's the actual mega-problem |
| 22:58 |
mircea_popescu |
so you're stuck being in the same space. |
| 22:58 |
cazalla |
nothing worse than a woman enthral by her iphone, i'd bet the tinder girls are much worse |
| 22:58 |
indiancandy1 |
it should be called seeking locals |
| 22:58 |
cazalla |
i would do the twitch thing tbh, tinder dating you are capped at one man per date, twitch is unlimited |
| 22:58 |
indiancandy1 |
its for people who just want casual sex |
| 22:59 |
indiancandy1 |
and this days most of society just want that |
| 22:59 |
BingoBoingo |
<indiancandy1> it should be called seeking locals << This is why you suck at spam 101 |
| 22:59 |
asciilifeform |
see also the wunderwaffen thread: |
| 22:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-02-2015#1017942 |
| 22:59 |
assbot |
Logged on 14-02-2015 02:47:47; mircea_popescu: do you skip to where the machine got abandoned and read her again ? |
| 22:59 |
indiancandy1 |
i dont spam |
| 22:59 |
indiancandy1 |
? |
| 22:59 |
BingoBoingo |
indiancandy1: I know. It's jsut actual descriptive names don't ever go viral |
| 23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform now imagine if on top of all this "important" stuff, she also had the fucking receiver bolt : "for every missing one, you get ten lashes. each day." |
| 23:00 |
asciilifeform |
my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized |
| 23:00 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> my understanding was that 'tinder' etc. could only boost the guy's chances because the gurl arrives pre-initialized << Does it need to do more? |
| 23:00 |
danielpbarron |
asciilifeform, the app helps in that it isn't aimed at establishing long-term relationships; you can already have a new one-night-stand ready for when you're done with the current one |
| 23:00 |
indiancandy1 |
it should be called sluts r us |
| 23:00 |
indiancandy1 |
ahahahahahahah |
| 23:01 |
cazalla |
indiancandy1, quit slut shaming |
| 23:01 |
mircea_popescu |
sluts r us! |
| 23:01 |
asciilifeform |
well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate |
| 23:01 |
danielpbarron |
from what i understand though, the guys are the sluts; the app is for women |
| 23:01 |
indiancandy1 |
there is one for gays also |
| 23:01 |
asciilifeform |
^ now -that- would make sense |
| 23:01 |
indiancandy1 |
and one for lesboz |
| 23:02 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> well yes but how does it improve chances vs. visiting a specially-designated heathen pit where these presently congregate << Heathen pits have greater explicit costs |
| 23:02 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform re pit, zappa's opinions re disco. |
| 23:02 |
mircea_popescu |
iirc quoted here a while back too |
| 23:02 |
BingoBoingo |
<indiancandy1> there is one for gays also << Grindr |
| 23:02 |
indiancandy1 |
ya |
| 23:02 |
cazalla |
back in my day we had to use adult friend finder, none of this fancy iphone shit |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: costs? |
| 23:02 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Heathen pit costs time |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: if you can afford a computer, you can afford to visit pub |
| 23:02 |
asciilifeform |
ah hm. |
| 23:02 |
indiancandy1 |
hot girls dont go pubs |
| 23:03 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Your forget idiots suck at math |
| 23:03 |
indiancandy1 |
hot girls go to bars |
| 23:03 |
asciilifeform |
indiancandy1: bar is not same as pub where you live ? |
| 23:03 |
indiancandy1 |
london |
| 23:03 |
indiancandy1 |
and its completley different |
| 23:03 |
cazalla |
likewise, pub/bar are two diff things down under |
| 23:04 |
danielpbarron |
is the difference whether you sit or stand? |
| 23:04 |
indiancandy1 |
no |
| 23:04 |
* |
asciilifeform bows out of this thread because realizes he has no personal experience with any of the things therein, at all, nor does he have a working theoretical model of them |
| 23:04 |
indiancandy1 |
if i had 2 compare it to hotels i would say a bar is more 5star and pub is like local bed and breakfast |
| 23:05 |
cazalla |
pub is more cheap food and booze, bar is more.. cocktail.. you'd never get a cocktail at a pub.. unless ya like a poof or something |
| 23:06 |
danielpbarron |
i can't find a good cocktail anywhere |
| 23:07 |
indiancandy1 |
unless ur like a poof |
| 23:07 |
indiancandy1 |
thats funny |
| 23:07 |
ben_vulpes |
danielpbarron: generally you make 'em. |
| 23:07 |
indiancandy1 |
daniel were do u liive |
| 23:07 |
ben_vulpes |
or have the girl do it. |
| 23:07 |
danielpbarron |
yep |
| 23:07 |
ben_vulpes |
a, the... |
| 23:08 |
danielpbarron |
indiancandy1, Connecticut (the state next to new york city) |
| 23:08 |
BingoBoingo |
<cazalla> likewise, pub/bar are two diff things down under << Here pub is fancier subset of bar where craft beer poofs congregate |
| 23:09 |
cazalla |
this is why true blue aussie battler slim dusty sang of a pub with no beer and not no cocktails https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E0aZ387M_I |
| 23:09 |
assbot |
Pub With No Beer - Slim Dusty - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBaNtN ) |
| 23:11 |
BingoBoingo |
http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-10-reasons-why-the-gabf-sucks.html << "Hall F of the Colorado Convention Center possesses all the charm of a Soviet tank factory with the Nazis closing in. All the ugly, hard surfaces distort and amplify the happy babble of the crowd into the soundtrack of the Spanish inquisition. Im well-aware of the brewery associations rationale: With so many people begging to be fleeced, they have an obli |
| 23:11 |
assbot |
Modern Drunkard Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBb7Zs ) |
| 23:11 |
BingoBoingo |
gation to provide enough space to fleece as many as possible. Which is fine, but that doesnt mean the fleece factory has to look and feel like a fleece factory." Everything wrong with craft beer scene |
| 23:11 |
indiancandy1 |
in dubai u get nice pubs |
| 23:11 |
indiancandy1 |
GOODNIGHT EVRYBODY |
| 23:11 |
indiancandy1 |
XXXXXXXX |
| 23:12 |
BingoBoingo |
http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-champagne-is-fucking-overrated.html |
| 23:12 |
assbot |
Modern Drunkard Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBbgwa ) |
| 23:12 |
ben_vulpes |
oi fuck you |
| 23:12 |
ben_vulpes |
champagne is not overrated |
| 23:12 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: It totally is |
| 23:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!up indiancandy1 |
| 23:13 |
BingoBoingo |
!up unbalanced |
| 23:13 |
ben_vulpes |
bourbon? self-disqualified. |
| 23:14 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: Bourbon is good, but still not as efficient as pure ETOH |
| 23:14 |
decimation |
champagne from champagne or fizzy wine in general? |
| 23:15 |
BingoBoingo |
decimation: Well, I linked a text authored by a person with more polished thoughts on the matter |
| 23:15 |
mircea_popescu |
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/01/hey_we_just_now_invented_a_coc.html#comment-26844 << tlp gets some outright great comments |
| 23:15 |
assbot |
The Last Psychiatrist: Hey! We Just Now Invented A Cocaine Vaccine 9 Years Ago ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBbZ0j ) |
| 23:16 |
ben_vulpes |
decimation: the person in question wouldn't know the difference. |
| 23:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Im not going to go overboard here by claiming that theres somehow nothing worse than the introduction of a bottle of champagne to a party setting, but I will call that shit out as being a significant speed bump at any given semiformal bacchanalsay, <, What is untrue about this. Champagne is a speed bump, and obstruction |
| 23:18 |
thestringpuller |
danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor? |
| 23:18 |
BingoBoingo |
"Theres a gathering round, anticipations, the camaraderie of the pour-and-pass. Speeches are made and improvised from makeshift pulpits. In a chamber of strangers there comes a blossoming sense of true union, a warm realization of the beauty in us all, and the hope for a happier tomorrow. The energy of the room charges upward to its apex, tears flow freely, everyone screams
And then, in silent finale, we all tip back bar |
| 23:18 |
BingoBoingo |
ely half a cup of soda water gone rotten, say aaah, and limply burp. Hooray?" |
| 23:19 |
ben_vulpes |
poor people opining about champagne. |
| 23:19 |
ben_vulpes |
good find, BingoBoingo. |
| 23:19 |
* |
mircea_popescu went to some sort of shibaru get together here, it was advertised as "bring someting to share". i brought two bottles of fizzy, ended up drinking it with girl i brought and her friend that made the invite, because the other people were too shy. |
| 23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
also, shibaru dressed. srsly. |
| 23:19 |
ben_vulpes |
haw |
| 23:19 |
ben_vulpes |
what's the point? |
| 23:19 |
mircea_popescu |
i have nfi. |
| 23:20 |
mircea_popescu |
and i don't mean dressed as in swimwear either. |
| 23:20 |
BingoBoingo |
ben_vulpes: Not quite. More people opining on the forgetableness of champagne for the serious drink hobbyist. |
| 23:20 |
mircea_popescu |
fuckign street clothes. |
| 23:20 |
danielpbarron |
thestringpuller> danielpbarron: have you ever been to Wilson's Pizza in Windsor? << no; not sure if i've even been to windsor |
| 23:20 |
cazalla |
BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink? |
| 23:21 |
BingoBoingo |
<cazalla> BingoBoingo, ever been blind drunk only to find that old abandoned bottle of champas in the back of a cupboard and despite being blind drunk, half of it gets tipped down the sink? << Seriously, shit dies within minutes of opening |
| 23:21 |
ben_vulpes |
was there anything interesting on display at all? |
| 23:22 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes it was like 2 other guys and about 7 girls. exactly one barely fuckable in the lot, and she looked and acted like a 17 yo cutting class. |
| 23:23 |
ben_vulpes |
sounds par for your experiences down south. |
| 23:23 |
mircea_popescu |
on re-read i guess to some people that sounds like praise. it ain't. |
| 23:23 |
mircea_popescu |
ben_vulpes somehow this disease where "words, we are using them" has definitely spread to here. |
| 23:23 |
mircea_popescu |
i blame tv. |
| 23:23 |
cazalla |
you know, one of the many things i don't grasp about bdsm is what looks like a desire of people to do it in a social setting than privacy of ones own home |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla ever fucked a girl in public ? |
| 23:24 |
cazalla |
not in full view, no |
| 23:24 |
mircea_popescu |
ever thought about doin' it ? |
| 23:24 |
cazalla |
off to the side, out of view, yes, but not a habit either |
| 23:25 |
cazalla |
no, not really, i like the comfort of home where shameful acts remain out of sight |
| 23:25 |
mircea_popescu |
well then makes sense. |
| 23:25 |
mircea_popescu |
not a fan of restaurants either ? |
| 23:26 |
unbalanced |
Sheesh, the conversation always takes a turn in the minutes it takes me to read a link and find a relevant reply |
| 23:26 |
cazalla |
i'm not, but prob for reasons other than implied (don't like to eat in front of others i'm guessing, but that does not bother me) |
| 23:26 |
unbalanced |
mp, re: the TLP comment I saw this the other day: https://twitter.com/renaudbedard/status/567827024775127040 |
| 23:26 |
assbot |
Woooah, a spambot barfed its post recipe on my blog, it's beautiful o_o // http://t.co/AVhrIFXgEK http://t.co/tlrHBHa5Oj |
| 23:26 |
mircea_popescu |
jus' saying, you know, each has his own inclinations. some ppl like it. some don't mind it. etc. |
| 23:26 |
unbalanced |
BingoBoingo, thanks for the upvoice |
| 23:27 |
mircea_popescu |
unbalanced happens to me occasionally too. {|||} etc stuff |
| 23:27 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: You're welcome. It's been a while |
| 23:27 |
unbalanced |
I wander off for a few months and sites fall off the web like flies. |
| 23:27 |
unbalanced |
I take it Altcoin is history? And Virtex and VoS here in Canada. |
| 23:28 |
mircea_popescu |
for plenty of girls being fucked in public is a major trespass, and sexual arousal and taboo breaking are intrinsically linked. |
| 23:28 |
cazalla |
i assume you mean in full view of the public and not hidden away up a side alley |
| 23:30 |
cazalla |
a romp in the side alley = fear of being caught, but in full view of the public and on display for anyone that cares to watch.. must be something else? |
| 23:30 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: ATC died, mining became unteneable |
| 23:31 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: On the plus side ATC's death highlighted a critical vulnerability in mining economics for alts |
| 23:32 |
unbalanced |
I guess when X-BT was gone, miners saw no market for ATC? |
| 23:33 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: ATC's death prompted X-BT to end, not the reverse |
| 23:33 |
unbalanced |
Aside from OTC here in IRC I guess. |
| 23:33 |
unbalanced |
Still, hard to find "a greater fool" to dump ATC on with me absent. |
| 23:34 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: l0l re: cocaine vaccine. the proposed 'dope vaccines' are one of the true eldrich horrors, that, were they actually put to use, would make folks pine for herr doktor mengele and his mercies |
| 23:34 |
unbalanced |
Nice work on qntra, btw |
| 23:34 |
asciilifeform |
think for a minute if the 'why' isn't obvious |
| 23:34 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: Well the MPIF ATC profit center died because MP ordered it when he saw continuing anything aTC would involve potentially unbounded costs. |
| 23:34 |
unbalanced |
To all involved. |
| 23:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2796 @ 0.00041502 = 1.1604 BTC [+] |
| 23:34 |
asciilifeform |
picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres |
| 23:35 |
asciilifeform |
(i can't picture a 'cocaine vaccine' doing anything else, if it works at all) |
| 23:35 |
BingoBoingo |
<asciilifeform> picture autoimmune destruction of the reward centres << This |
| 23:35 |
unbalanced |
*nice work to all involved meaning BingoBoingo / cazalla / mp, unless I'm missing anyone. |
| 23:35 |
asciilifeform |
ditto for the opiate 'vaccine' |
| 23:35 |
asciilifeform |
i can see it as a grotesque means of execution, however. |
| 23:35 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: Our best recent piece was asciilifeform's disk controller epic |
| 23:35 |
unbalanced |
Oh jeez, I see the Dec statement, lots of authors. Nice model! |
| 23:35 |
asciilifeform |
'vaccinate' poor schmuck and lock him in an oubliette with a rusty razor. |
| 23:36 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: Our most retweeted recently though was me cribbing crunchbase, because fuck Superfish/TimDraper |
| 23:41 |
BingoBoingo |
!uo gernika |
| 23:41 |
BingoBoingo |
!up Bagels7 |
| 23:44 |
BingoBoingo |
!up unbalanced |
| 23:45 |
unbalanced |
asciilifeform: my favourite part of that was learning that there's a "Persistence Division" -- sounds like an 80's electronica band |
| 23:46 |
mircea_popescu |
cazalla well... something else, sure. like a strong signal to the other females. |
| 23:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00041502 = 5.7273 BTC [+] |
| 23:47 |
cazalla |
looks like one of the cloudhashing.com guys has a new scam at freebitcoins.com to harvest emails at 0.0001 per |
| 23:47 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell indiancandy1 marketing 101 http://drunkard.com/issues/59/59-thunderbird-is-the-word.html |
| 23:47 |
assbot |
Modern Drunkard Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1zyshwW ) |
| 23:47 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
| 23:47 |
unbalanced |
Would you say Qubes is worth trying as a more secure OS? I think you mentioned it once wayyy back... |
| 23:47 |
mircea_popescu |
2 cents an email ? hey, that's about what megalists cost. |
| 23:48 |
asciilifeform |
unbalanced: the reason for this is the elementary fact that, while virtually all victims of usg ops are dumb enough to run winblows, not all of them are so exquisitely stupid as to use the install that came in the crate |
| 23:48 |
asciilifeform |
unbalanced: hence persistence-through-diddled-hw shenanigans |
| 23:48 |
unbalanced |
...so I looked for a laptop that would support all the goodies in Qubes, and ended up buying -- wait for it -- a Lenovo. |
| 23:49 |
unbalanced |
Can't win. |
| 23:49 |
asciilifeform |
unbalanced: qubes << i most certainly never suggested it. as far as i can see, it's plain 'xen' and subject to all the caveats thereof ('escapes' etc) |
| 23:49 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: My online machine is still a 2011 vintage cheapo thinkpad. Love it. |
| 23:49 |
asciilifeform |
as a general rule, piss on anyone pitching a linux distro as 'an os' |
| 23:50 |
asciilifeform |
there is no excuse for lying. don't say 'i wrote an os' when you rolled a linux distro like 100,000 other folks. |
| 23:50 |
unbalanced |
Of course it wasn't a consumer Lenovo, but it seems if you buy the latest Intel processor for security features you may be buying a factory-pwned unit anyway. |
| 23:50 |
asciilifeform |
if gonna lie, at least try to be believable ? |
| 23:50 |
* |
BingoBoingo is coming around to idea that if linux is used msut be built from toothpicks |
| 23:51 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i dun think you understand how pubescent male brain works. |
| 23:51 |
BingoBoingo |
unbalanced: The cheapo lenovos come with AMD |
| 23:51 |
unbalanced |
I'd buy a used ThinkPad but who knows how diddled that would be now from 4 years of some shlub surfing porn? |
| 23:51 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: to the extent i know how any other one works. |
| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
wasn't, after all, born this age. |
| 23:52 |
* |
BingoBoingo finds present online machine valuable because acquired well before could have been considered interesting personally |
| 23:52 |
danielpbarron |
i chatted with someone the other day who claimed to be using a "custom OS" / when pressed further he admitted it was ubuntu with some features disabled |
| 23:52 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform "hi baby i'm a producer". " i made an os" |
| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/28288/20150123/researchers-test-anti-cocaine-vaccine-taps-immune-system-to-end-addiction.htm << this is interesting -only- because of the photo of the crack woman from pediwikia. it used to have a face! |
| 23:52 |
assbot |
Researchers Test Anti-Cocaine Vaccine, Taps Immune System to End Addiction : LIFE : Tech Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1zysKPD ) |
| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
i saw it many times |
| 23:52 |
asciilifeform |
and it had a face. |
| 23:52 |
mircea_popescu |
i even have this captured in trilema amber |
| 23:53 |
asciilifeform |
that photo only existed as a propaganda device, 'woman, see what the dope life does to face?!' |
| 23:53 |
asciilifeform |
and now it looks almost normal |
| 23:54 |
asciilifeform |
but i can see some pediwikian fuhrer going 'we shall now censor faces' |
| 23:54 |
asciilifeform |
re: 'dope life': |
| 23:55 |
asciilifeform |
there are conditions that interfere with sleep. as in, cannot - or can only rarely - sleep. eventually fatal. but before victim dies, he experiences more or less the whole gamut of 'meth addict' pathologies. |
| 23:55 |
mircea_popescu |
actually i so very much doubt that has to be fatal... |
| 23:55 |
asciilifeform |
which suggests that u.s. army medics were right, and meth (or other stimulator) per se doesn't poison the user |
| 23:55 |
mircea_popescu |
if i ever get one i'll report. |
| 23:56 |
unbalanced |
BingoBoingo, I imagine anyone wandering through this channel must end up on a no-fly list within a week. I mean, if there's a Persistence Division, there must be an #Assets Assembly. |
| 23:56 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: kills via immune collapse |
| 23:56 |
asciilifeform |
iirc. |
| 23:56 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform the thing is, when i don't actually sleep i revert to these 4 hour cycles with about an hourish of downtime, and im fine. |
| 23:56 |
mircea_popescu |
i think the pathology results from not actually respecting that. |
| 23:57 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: the pathology arises in cases where victim - usually for reason of taking stimulator nonstop - feels no compulsion to sleep. |
| 23:57 |
asciilifeform |
this is not the only incident of 'modern' medicine failing to factor out comorbidities correctly |
| 23:57 |
* |
mircea_popescu is one of those rare folks that can stand guard two weeks and still appreciate humor at the end of it. |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
see also tthe case of the wholly fictional 'crack babies' |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
(which were, to the extent the pathologies were actual, vs imagined, alcohol babies) |
| 23:59 |
cazalla |
mircea_popescu, sleep deprived hysteria? had this after the first week with baby, i have never laughed so hard and all i assume as a result from total lack of sleep |
| 23:59 |
* |
asciilifeform personal record - 1 week. and appreciated humour perhaps too much after that. but story for another time |
| 23:59 |
unbalanced |
I saw bitwork.io in an early qntra.net article... is the maker from around here, an #asset-erian? |
| 23:59 |
danielpbarron |
i went a few days without sleep and began to hallucinate |