00:00 |
decimation |
yeah and the elites know it, even if only in the hindbrain |
00:01 |
decimation |
perhaps the fate of the US is to have a "russian 90's" and then see a putin-like figure arise. I kinda doubt it though, because of the intense allergy us folk have to anyone telling them what to do |
00:05 |
decimation |
asciilifeform: I think you wrote about how the effects of the nuke bomb were seriously hyped back in the cold war days. Here's an interesting link: http://glasstone.blogspot.com/ |
00:05 |
assbot |
Declassified effects of nuclear weapons and other threats: minimizing weapons effects on civilians |
00:05 |
decimation |
it's a bit wordy, but the bottom line is that civil defense against nuclear weapons is extremely effective |
00:06 |
decimation |
if you get most of your population into extremely cheap bunkers quickly, very few will die |
00:06 |
decimation |
this is an inconvienent fact if you want to hype the bomb into a mega-weapon in order to manipulate the masses into supporting your "peace programs" |
00:07 |
decimation |
so - civil defense got the boot. |
00:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.06539315 = 1.8964 BTC [-] {4} |
00:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00082175 = 14.3395 BTC [+] {2} |
00:16 |
Mats_cd03 |
uh and the trillions in infrastructure damage? |
00:17 |
decimation |
right, but the point is that a realistic nuclear attack isn't going to be much more damaging than conventional bombs if defenses are prepared |
00:19 |
nubbins` |
[01:04:30] <+bitstein> ;;rate napedia 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. Wicked smart. Lots of privilege. |
00:19 |
nubbins` |
^ lel, but how many t-shirts? |
00:19 |
decimation |
"If you want peace, be ready for war. If you want to encourage aggressors, disarm." |
00:23 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06698006 = 0.6698 BTC [+] |
00:34 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell decimation Is our last name Teller by any chance? |
00:34 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
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~ 17 minutes ~ |
00:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00082408 = 25.1756 BTC [+] {2} |
00:55 |
BingoBoingo |
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/top-us-patent-judge-resigns-following-ethical-breach/ |
00:55 |
assbot |
Top US patent judge resigns following ethical breach | Ars Technica |
01:00 |
BingoBoingo |
;;later tell decimation something in the long run you'l have to grapple with here is the apparent aversion people have to eating strange. |
01:00 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
01:01 |
BingoBoingo |
http://screamer.deadspin.com/there-are-no-giraffes-in-ghana-delta-1591759195/+Sean-Newell |
01:01 |
assbot |
There Are No Giraffes In Ghana, Delta |
01:06 |
BingoBoingo |
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/report-seattle-paid-17500-to-boost-online-reputation-of-city-official/ |
01:06 |
assbot |
Report: Seattle paid $17,500 to boost online reputation of city official | Ars Technica |
01:14 |
mircea_popescu |
cheap. |
01:15 |
mircea_popescu |
the us paid ~500mn to boost online reputation of white house official. |
01:15 |
BingoBoingo |
lol |
01:16 |
mircea_popescu |
!up RedStallion |
01:16 |
BingoBoingo |
Malaki paid ~1200 soldiers to keep his boys in Baghdad from deserting. |
01:17 |
mircea_popescu |
now that's cheap |
01:17 |
BingoBoingo |
Historically yeah. |
01:18 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.bestgore.com/execution/photo-mass-execution-iraq-soldiers-isis/ |
01:18 |
assbot |
Photos of Mass Executions of Iraqi Soldiers by ISIS | Best Gore |
01:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ouch |
01:20 |
BingoBoingo |
It's why I'm leaning towards predicting partition. |
01:21 |
mircea_popescu |
i think iran will invade if that's on the books. |
01:22 |
BingoBoingo |
Sure, they probably take the south. The Kurds keep the productive north. Isis keeps the bullshit parts. |
01:22 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, right. |
01:24 |
mircea_popescu |
the notion of any sort of kurdish state would require commitment to the level of 100k boots on the ground for a few years, and then ongoing support a la israel. |
01:25 |
mircea_popescu |
and the kurds aren't the jews, either. |
01:26 |
BingoBoingo |
At the moment though Iraqi Kurds have money, they actually like the hardware the US left them, and Turkey prolly wants to trim its welfare rolls... |
01:26 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a pipe dream |
01:27 |
mircea_popescu |
i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time. |
01:27 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, UN sort of Statehood is, but they can prolly keep this feudal de fact autonomy going a few decades. Also UN sort of statehood is on its way out. |
01:28 |
BingoBoingo |
So how do we spec "i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time" for BitBet? |
01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
and since we're discussing the war in iraq, let's debunk some common myths. the us has spent close to 2 trillion on it so far, which balloons to 7 trillion if you count interest payments, as the us is flat broke (the affair will be paid for by 2055ish). |
01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
this includes ~ 100k ak guns missing, about half a trillion in disappeared funds, including billions paid to known outright washington graft |
01:29 |
BingoBoingo |
No dispute there. |
01:29 |
mircea_popescu |
the revenue from iraqi oil was 5 bn in 2013. |
01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
I though at least a full trillion disappeared into the hole and graft... |
01:30 |
mircea_popescu |
that's 0.1% of the total cost, roughly speaking. |
01:30 |
mircea_popescu |
NOT worth it. in fact, if the usg simply invested its 7trn budget into bitcointalk "investments" the us would be ahead today |
01:30 |
BingoBoingo |
Bush I really should have just blessed Bin Laded keeping occupied with Saddam. |
01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
o yeah, and of the ~50bn spent on reconstruction (1% of total, or 10x the benefits) pretty much nothing of any use was built. |
01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo that'd have required people with something other than cotton between their ears living and breathing in washington |
01:31 |
mircea_popescu |
however, with fuckwits a la kerry, rice or clinton... |
01:33 |
BingoBoingo |
It's still satisfying to say 9/11 was HW's fault |
01:34 |
mircea_popescu |
idont see how it'd be. |
01:35 |
BingoBoingo |
He could have Kept Bin Laden busy through the 90's like Reagan did through the 1980's |
01:35 |
mircea_popescu |
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5384eff869bedd306fc96e9e-800-/ap53047226600.jpg << dude the white house has a skeletronizer somewhere. |
01:36 |
mircea_popescu |
look at that man. he went in there all plump and looking 35. a decade later he looks 60 |
01:36 |
BingoBoingo |
I though that was just 6 years of knowing he sucks aged him. |
01:36 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe. |
01:37 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno what can do that to a man, outside of smoking rocks |
01:38 |
BingoBoingo |
mircea_popescu: You have to realize everything he does is the near opposite of what you enjoy and consider healthy |
01:38 |
mircea_popescu |
hm |
01:38 |
mircea_popescu |
no wonder they can't get talent. |
01:38 |
BingoBoingo |
Also... who are his daughters dating... That has to age him too. |
01:39 |
mircea_popescu |
looks like erzsebet bathory's ballet troupe. "send your girl over, we'll suck her blood and leave an empty husk within five years". |
01:40 |
BingoBoingo |
It happened to W. less so to Clinton because Interns. |
01:41 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 634 @ 0.0008216 = 0.5209 BTC [-] |
01:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Hard to say if it aged Reagan or if he had a lucid moment after year 2. Cater was afraid of rabbits. |
01:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [SF1] 12401 @ 0.00031307 = 3.8824 BTC [-] {6} |
01:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00082105 = 7.1431 BTC [-] |
01:58 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7287 @ 0.00082105 = 5.983 BTC [-] |
02:00 |
BingoBoingo |
fluffypony: Un pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1199460/responsive-documents.pdf |
02:04 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
02:04 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 589.51, Best ask: 591.62, Bid-ask spread: 2.11000, Last trade: 592.1, 24 hour volume: 9550.98273248, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 598.225360045 |
02:04 |
BingoBoingo |
%book |
02:04 |
atcbot |
35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 |
02:06 |
BingoBoingo |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mxDSiwqM2nw |
02:06 |
assbot |
AAA THE F-35 IS A LEMON PIERRE SPREY (RUNAWAY FIGHTER) FIFTH ESTATE EXTENDED INTERVW - YouTube |
02:07 |
BingoBoingo |
I'd almost venture to say based on Opportunity costs that the F-35 might have been as injurous to the US as Iraq |
02:18 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2157505 = 0.863 BTC [+] {2} |
02:19 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.215001 = 9.245 BTC [-] |
02:20 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2125 = 0.85 BTC [-] |
02:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.2112 = 4.224 BTC [-] |
02:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.2113 = 3.1695 BTC [+] |
02:34 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21679 @ 0.00082105 = 17.7995 BTC [-] |
02:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.20814003 = 2.0814 BTC [-] {3} |
02:59 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3721 @ 0.00082362 = 3.0647 BTC [+] |
03:09 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 57 @ 0.06699998 = 3.819 BTC [+] {5} |
03:17 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.2014 = 2.2154 BTC [-] |
03:27 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.06700125 = 5.3601 BTC [+] {2} |
03:29 |
fluffypony |
BingoBoingo: it displays really weirdly here |
03:30 |
fluffypony |
it works, but the text is all fuzzy |
03:37 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7406 @ 0.00082319 = 6.0965 BTC [-] |
03:40 |
fluffypony |
;;later tell mircea_popescu Fiverr takes Bitcoin now, well worth making an account - there's so much stupid shit I've used Fiverr for it's well worth it |
03:40 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
03:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00082336 = 18.9373 BTC [+] |
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~ 29 minutes ~ |
04:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00082121 = 27.1821 BTC [-] {2} |
04:24 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00082545 = 25.4239 BTC [+] |
04:27 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45623 @ 0.00082049 = 37.4332 BTC [-] {2} |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
04:47 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.0666 = 1.2654 BTC [-] {2} |
04:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.0666 = 1.8648 BTC [-] {2} |
04:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00081995 = 19.2688 BTC [-] |
04:52 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06646475 = 0.6646 BTC [-] |
05:03 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.06514736 = 1.2378 BTC [-] {3} |
05:05 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.065 = 0.65 BTC [-] |
05:06 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.065 = 0.845 BTC [-] {3} |
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~ 29 minutes ~ |
05:35 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06641553 = 0.6642 BTC [+] {2} |
05:39 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00082309 = 9.4655 BTC [+] |
05:45 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06500903 = 0.6501 BTC [-] {2} |
05:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00082022 = 24.3605 BTC [-] {3} |
06:08 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.06334622 = 1.7103 BTC [-] {3} |
06:10 |
fluffypony |
https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms14-031 |
06:10 |
assbot |
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS14-031 - Important |
06:10 |
fluffypony |
rad. |
06:12 |
davout |
fluffypony: meh, we're basically back at the time where you could nuke ppl |
06:12 |
fluffypony |
davout: yeah, WinNuke 2014 |
06:12 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 123 @ 0.020001 = 2.4601 BTC [-] {2} |
06:23 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10982 @ 0.0008227 = 9.0349 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 33 minutes ~ |
06:57 |
kakobrekla |
http://vimeo.com/98321051 |
06:57 |
assbot |
BE200 Immersion Test on Vimeo |
06:58 |
kakobrekla |
lots of bubbling. |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
07:13 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00081968 = 13.1968 BTC [-] |
07:16 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.063301 = 0.9495 BTC [-] |
07:21 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00081883 = 16.7451 BTC [-] {2} |
07:27 |
pankkake |
https://www.livebusinesschat.com/smf/index.php?topic=5629.0 |
07:28 |
assbot |
Hidden message on the new sourceforge TrueCrypt site |
07:33 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.063301 = 0.6963 BTC [+] |
07:40 |
Mats_cd03 |
http://ottawacitizen.com/technology/internet/how-did-the-rcmp-crack-blackberrys-security |
07:40 |
assbot |
How did the RCMP crack BlackBerry’s security? | Ottawa Citizen |
07:40 |
Mats_cd03 |
'3DES among the best in the world' |
07:41 |
Mats_cd03 |
with 80 bits of security!!! |
07:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31566 @ 0.00081793 = 25.8188 BTC [-] {4} |
07:51 |
Mats_cd03 |
;;bc,stats |
07:51 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 306303 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 128 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 17 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13307564206.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.19275 |
07:56 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17913 @ 0.00081789 = 14.6509 BTC [-] |
08:04 |
moiety |
hurro all |
08:06 |
jurov |
hi moiety |
08:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00081768 = 19.2972 BTC [-] {2} |
08:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.000817 = 4.4085 BTC [-] |
08:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44228 @ 0.0008169 = 36.1299 BTC [-] {3} |
08:29 |
moiety |
how are you jurov? i've not seen you for a wee bit (moving sucks btw) |
08:31 |
moiety |
!up Cory |
08:31 |
moiety |
!up ericmuyser |
08:42 |
artifexd |
moiety: Saw this and thought of you. http://i.imgur.com/isGXwi2.gif |
08:45 |
moiety |
artifexd: omg! thanks for linking me! thats my first manul gif... lol it's brilliant, can't stop chuckling :D |
08:46 |
artifexd |
yw |
08:49 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00081904 = 17.3636 BTC [+] |
08:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00082108 = 16.2574 BTC [+] {2} |
09:05 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.0008227 = 21.5547 BTC [+] |
09:10 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20201 = 0.606 BTC [-] {2} |
09:11 |
jurov |
moiety i'm well, afk more often now |
09:14 |
jurov |
and still learning to manage people and other company/accounting intricacies |
09:15 |
jurov |
and becoming more lazy than ever lol :D |
09:16 |
Apocalyptic |
jurov, how many people do you manage out of curiosity ? |
09:17 |
chetty |
http://naturalsociety.com/europe-bans-american-apples/ |
09:17 |
assbot |
Europe Bans American Apples : Natural Society |
09:20 |
jurov |
it depends how you define it, maybe 2-3 |
09:20 |
jurov |
they are not employers but freelancers/partners, what makes things worse |
09:21 |
jurov |
(i guess) |
09:21 |
Apocalyptic |
jurov, I see |
09:21 |
jurov |
such as, i asked a designer to improve colours of coinroll logo. he made three variants |
09:22 |
jurov |
but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay |
09:22 |
jurov |
so it ended up with this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650783.0 |
09:22 |
assbot |
[POLL] Coinroll Color Scheme |
09:22 |
jurov |
and wao said, but wait, i ask my friend too |
09:22 |
jurov |
i was like arghhhhhhh |
09:23 |
chetty |
it is good tho to practice/learn management on little things |
09:23 |
jurov |
i should not have allowed such a bikeshed discussion at all |
09:24 |
Apocalyptic |
chetty, yeah, may come in handy when managing bigger projects |
09:24 |
chetty |
exactly :) important lesson |
09:35 |
ThickAsThieves |
New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU |
09:35 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
09:37 |
asciilifeform |
ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap. |
09:38 |
fluffypony |
lol |
09:46 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 969 @ 0.0008227 = 0.7972 BTC [+] |
09:47 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00082274 = 3.1519 BTC [+] |
09:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0633 = 1.4559 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 26 minutes ~ |
10:15 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25269 @ 0.00082274 = 20.7898 BTC [+] |
10:15 |
jurov |
ThickAsThieves: context? what kind of buseness was that aimed to? |
10:16 |
mircea_popescu |
fluffypony i guess. |
10:17 |
mircea_popescu |
Mats_cd03: '3DES among the best in the world' lawl. |
10:17 |
mircea_popescu |
but then what's that scrape when blackberry wouldn't give its keys to some foreign, i don't recall, russia was it ? |
10:17 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78700 @ 0.00082477 = 64.9094 BTC [+] {3} |
10:18 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9136 @ 0.00082294 = 7.5184 BTC [-] |
10:18 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay << hey, my vote won! |
10:19 |
kakobrekla |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.0 |
10:19 |
assbot |
DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Containers |
10:20 |
mircea_popescu |
ThickAsThieves: New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU <<< ahgaha what stupid retarded shit is that. |
10:20 |
assbot |
imgur: the simple image sharer |
10:21 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap. << if it is it'll backfire, ppl get to learn first hand just how harmless btc actually is by telling these folk to stfu / ignoring them |
10:23 |
mircea_popescu |
"During years of engineering time, we have built a network of partners, resources and contacts in Asia, Europe and the USA." yet the best they could do was still havelock. |
10:24 |
pankkake |
Our first larger scale immersion cooled cluster consisted of 6048 Xilinx®Spartan-6 FPGAs in 24 tanks and was built in early 2012 with the Bitcoin still below $5. |
10:24 |
pankkake |
how many coins would that be? |
10:24 |
mircea_popescu |
"we of course can not offer any documentation to this claim, nor have we learned to gpg yet, because this is all very common of big ticker 2012 miners" |
10:24 |
pankkake |
also, why would they need to raise funds |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
"we also knew what chips bfl had sanded off in 2013 way back in 2011, which allowed us to beat them to the punch by two years but keep quiet about it" |
10:25 |
mircea_popescu |
"also bitcoin was under 5 in spite of us secretly doing 140% of network hash on our 6k bfl miners self-delivered early by about 17 months" |
10:26 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake how many coins would that be? << the early (only) bfl delivered miners were commercial fpgas, so you know... a lot. |
10:27 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun recall them actually delivering 5k of the things, they had a limited supply prolly bought off some suprluss deal. |
10:28 |
mircea_popescu |
"The company will publish financial statements and certified audits frequently to make calculation of operating expenses transparent." |
10:28 |
mircea_popescu |
idjits ffs. |
10:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.0633 = 3.3549 BTC [+] |
10:35 |
los_pantalones |
this video says "99% electicity saved - Extremely efficient cooling" |
10:35 |
|
Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.78602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,931. |
10:36 |
los_pantalones |
i'm no mathemagician, but that seems high |
10:36 |
mike_c |
^ wtf? people think marshalls are going to dump the price? |
10:36 |
mike_c |
;;ticker |
10:36 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.38, Best ask: 599.5, Bid-ask spread: 3.12000, Last trade: 596.38, 24 hour volume: 5611.63210563, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.3, 24 hour vwap: 592.337568602 |
10:36 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06439287 = 1.2879 BTC [+] |
10:37 |
chetty |
Obama announces 275 US troops WILL be sent to Iraq to protect American embassy in Baghdad days after saying they would not return = suicide mission |
10:37 |
los_pantalones |
mike_c i've noticed a lot of people arguing that everyone who buys in the auction is going to sell into the market |
10:37 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c more or lesss stable it seems |
10:37 |
mircea_popescu |
los_pantalones you didn't see people arguing that |
10:37 |
jurov |
mike_c i don't understand the sentiment, either... rather suspect someone hopes to win the auction and is tryng to dump the price |
10:37 |
mike_c |
that would be, retarded! |
10:37 |
los_pantalones |
not here, of course |
10:37 |
mircea_popescu |
you saw this guy : http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-just-about-everyone-on-the-internet/ |
10:37 |
assbot |
This is just about everyone on the Internet pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
10:38 |
los_pantalones |
hahahahah |
10:38 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov kinda nonsensical. if he dumps the price he gets competition. |
10:38 |
jurov |
yes.. i got no explanation then. |
10:39 |
mike_c |
<+mircea_popescu> mike_c more or lesss stable it seems << yeah, that surprises me. i would think it would be sliding towards no instead of staying stable. |
10:39 |
los_pantalones |
i thought the market should have rallied on the auction news, it wasn't necessarily clear how they would sell the coins |
10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
how about you know, derps paying voluntary stupid tax (again) |
10:39 |
pankkake |
can the exchanges even handle 20000 coins? that sounds risky for a quick profit |
10:39 |
jurov |
but still.. maybe it's the same derp who bought s.dice day after divs were paid |
10:39 |
los_pantalones |
and i think the process is not bad, chunky sizes to better financed entities |
10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake you don't have to use the exchanges. you can just undercut los_pantalones here :D |
10:39 |
los_pantalones |
mircea_popescu correct |
10:39 |
mircea_popescu |
i wouldn't worry too much if i were you. |
10:40 |
pankkake |
;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --vol |
10:40 |
gribble |
101.04901102 |
10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not a sale anyway. if anything, it's good news for you. |
10:40 |
pankkake |
;;ticker --market bitstamp --vol |
10:40 |
gribble |
5602.81348519 |
10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake whoa shit, they're getting close to the 100 btc cutoff ?! |
10:40 |
pankkake |
it's daily volume |
10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
ah ah |
10:40 |
mircea_popescu |
i was about to say davout got 51 problems and a horse ain't one. |
10:42 |
mike_c |
jurov: for the record, my retarded comment was about buying the coins to sell, not your theory :) but i agree with mp that I don't think the bitstamp price will have much to do with the auction price. |
10:42 |
mike_c |
or, if i'm putting words in his mouth, then that's what i think at least. |
10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
close enough. |
10:42 |
pankkake |
will the prices be public? |
10:42 |
los_pantalones |
you have to submit a price on friday, find out if you win monday night |
10:42 |
mircea_popescu |
how was your father's day btw ? |
10:43 |
los_pantalones |
pankkake unclear, not much disclosed about what happens when you win |
10:43 |
los_pantalones |
sorry, if* |
10:43 |
mike_c |
mine? it was great. left the kid at grandma's and went out with the wife. |
10:43 |
mircea_popescu |
hahaha score. |
10:44 |
mircea_popescu |
in unrelated news, my pyjamas have little octopuses on them, my table is an inch of glass, i prop my knee under it while sitting. 3rd fucking thims this morning i had a peripheral vision panic of "WHOA WTF ARE THOSE" |
10:45 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.weirdspace.dk/LooneyTunes/Graphics/HeneryHawk.gif |
10:46 |
davout |
pankkake: "it's daily volume" <<< nothing that a couple 0-fee accounts can't fix anyway |
10:46 |
mircea_popescu |
o.O |
10:47 |
kakobrekla |
o cool |
10:47 |
* |
kakobrekla clicks apply. |
10:47 |
jurov |
mircea_popescu wears pyjamas? O.o |
10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
what do you wear |
10:47 |
jurov |
better go without (unless you fear snakes) |
10:47 |
pankkake |
not even a pajama suit |
10:47 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake no, it's a suit alright. |
10:48 |
mircea_popescu |
well it doesn't have a vest, but anyway. got pockets and everything |
10:49 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7937 @ 0.0000985 = 0.7818 BTC [-] {2} |
10:50 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06644663 = 0.5316 BTC [-] {2} |
10:50 |
mircea_popescu |
http://muscleheadgym.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/i-scared-myself-today/ << i wonder how this guy's post'd look like if a cop had picked him up for gta, and then kept him under key until such a time a translator could establish the woman's not angry at having caught a thief but relieved at having been broken into her car. |
10:50 |
assbot |
I scared myself today | The Musclehead Gym |
10:59 |
jurov |
http://bitcoiner.sk/2014/06/09/bitcoin-tetovania-su-v-kurze-pozrite-sa-na-pravych-fanusikov-digitalnej-meny/#.U6BXf6bTbmE omgwtf |
10:59 |
assbot |
Bitcoin tetovania s v kurze. Pozrite sa na pravch fanikov digitlnej meny. |
10:59 |
mircea_popescu |
? |
11:00 |
jurov |
sample: http://bitcoiner.sk/content/images/2014/Jun/12.jpg |
11:02 |
jurov |
she prolly forgot the text "insert bitcoins here" |
11:02 |
jurov |
but dunno if she got crypto capable cunt |
11:02 |
kakobrekla |
its inset buttcoins in the bck |
11:02 |
kakobrekla |
insert* |
11:03 |
kakobrekla |
back |
11:03 |
kakobrekla |
fuck cmon. |
11:04 |
jurov |
asciilifeform: what about S.NSA developing btc wallet that can be implanted into dick/cunt with NFC capability? |
11:05 |
jurov |
ofc, in the butt, too (butt one will be then configured by user to ask more) |
11:05 |
mircea_popescu |
lolk |
11:07 |
davout |
jurov: are you fucking crazy? |
11:07 |
davout |
who would use nfc for a bitcoin wallet?? |
11:08 |
pankkake |
the real issue with his plan is the block size limit |
11:08 |
chetty |
hmm never actually considered getting a tattoo ....before |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
lmao |
11:08 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake it has no cock size limit, you were lied to |
11:08 |
pankkake |
if it's one tx per entry |
11:10 |
jurov |
okay, not nfc. it makes more sense using actual electrodes, so physical contact is needed (and environment must be wet) |
11:10 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.crocofetish.com/pictures/bdsm/bound-gangbangs/dp-in-submissive-slut-gangbang/11.jpg << doublespend |
11:10 |
davout |
i can't wait for the triple-entry accounting illustration |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
a'cuntin' ? |
11:11 |
pankkake |
somehow I feel the last links are NSFW |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
http://files.sharenator.com/They_said_I_could_be_anything_Infinite_Picdump_117-s598x462-311626-580.jpg << here you go. |
11:11 |
mircea_popescu |
pankkake since when are you employed ?! |
11:11 |
davout |
lol |
11:12 |
pankkake |
unfortunately… |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
french employment. where good pr0n is only a lick away |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
+c |
11:12 |
mircea_popescu |
or w/e |
11:13 |
fluffypony |
http://www.coindesk.com/multi-sig-bitcoin-wallet-provider-bitgo-raises-12-million/ |
11:13 |
assbot |
Multi-Sig Bitcoin Wallet Provider BitGo Raises $12 Million |
11:13 |
pankkake |
my last employer was NSFW friendly though |
11:13 |
davout |
every decent employer is nsfw-friendly |
11:14 |
davout |
nsfw can also help improve security policies at the office |
11:14 |
pankkake |
i.e. I was expected to send porn to my "boss" |
11:14 |
pankkake |
how so? |
11:15 |
davout |
well, if each time you leave your desk without locking your session you find full-screen gay porn playing upon returning there you start paying attention to locking your session |
11:16 |
jurov |
davout, that depends :D |
11:16 |
davout |
lol, i guess it needs to be tailored to the target |
11:17 |
pankkake |
I am much more paranoid, gay porn is far from something I'd fear |
11:17 |
pankkake |
I always lock it + 5 min idle lock |
11:17 |
asciilifeform |
forgot to lock my console once at uni, in dorm. chums walked in, changed display background to a shot of winblows 'me' |
11:18 |
davout |
asciilifeform: it's much funnier to change the background to a full screen shot, and then hide the icons |
11:18 |
pankkake |
Windows Meuh |
11:18 |
asciilifeform |
davout: that's what it was |
11:19 |
asciilifeform |
jurov: fingerprint locks -> lose yer finger; cock wallet -> lose... |
11:19 |
jurov |
if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes |
11:19 |
davout |
jurov: that would work amazingly well if coupled to a buttwallet |
11:19 |
assbot |
AMAZING COMPANY! |
11:19 |
asciilifeform |
rectumprint. |
11:20 |
asciilifeform |
sit on a stake scanner. |
11:20 |
asciilifeform |
no thx |
11:20 |
pankkake |
well, http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/28/tongue-piercing-disabled-paralysed-magentic-stud-wheelchairs-smartphone |
11:20 |
assbot |
Tongue piercing helps paralysed patients drive wheelchairs | Society | theguardian.com |
11:20 |
chetty |
so in Pennsylvania if you don{t log into a bank account for 6 months the state takes it |
11:22 |
pankkake |
even in France it's 30 years! |
11:26 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00082244 = 27.6751 BTC [-] {3} |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
<jurov> davout, that depends :D << lol |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
<jurov> if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
!up jediballs |
11:35 |
chetty |
http://online.wsj.com/articles/explosion-rips-through-gas-pipeline-in-central-ukraine-1403013593 |
11:35 |
assbot |
Ukraine Gas Pipeline Explosion Won't Affect Supplies to Europe - WSJ |
11:35 |
kakobrekla |
lol wtf is this |
11:35 |
kakobrekla |
http://www.coindesk.com/delta-financial-offers-interest-bearing-bitcoin-accounts/ |
11:35 |
assbot |
Delta Financial Offers Interest-Bearing Bitcoin Accounts |
11:35 |
chetty |
<mircea_popescu> <jurov> if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything<< well your slaves can do it |
11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
kinda meh |
11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla people desperate for bitcoin capital |
11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
it will only get worse. |
11:37 |
kakobrekla |
ah i get it, the bitfinex model |
11:37 |
kakobrekla |
i thought pirate was out of jail at first |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
on the short term, 2015-2016, it'll be AMAZING what sort of interest people will be able to earn if they don't actually want their bitcoin capital back |
11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
increasingly more respectable firms will be offering btc denominated savings accounts with a fiat clause as the cheapest most accessible way to get in the game |
11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
(stuff like "deposit your bitcoin with for 50% per annum!!1" small print "repayable in either bitcoin or fiat at our option") |
11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
all the "everyone made ROI hand over fist with a 60% btc loss" crowd will be well served. |
11:40 |
jurov |
ftfy: "repayable at our option" |
11:40 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov that'll slowly go away. |
11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
it's cheaper to pay a few % and pretend like you've paid than to not pay at all. |
11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
the only reason this isn't the rule now is the relative small size of the deals, which makes cluelessness seaworthy |
11:41 |
jurov |
afaik it was the case with fiat before central banking |
11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
but even on a market of garr and nasty fucktards, it's slowly emerging |
11:41 |
mircea_popescu |
something like that yes. |
11:42 |
mircea_popescu |
early bank paper (banknotes) stoood to gold in a very similar relation. "deposit your gold, we'll pay 5976597985%. in gold. or maybe paper" |
11:42 |
mircea_popescu |
"it's just as good" |
11:44 |
fluffypony |
lol - 4chan campaign ends up IRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exc6e3TUBWk |
11:44 |
assbot |
#EndFathersDay - a Twitter Campaign to End Patriarchy & Oppression - #SingleMothersDay - YouTube |
11:45 |
pankkake |
paying dividends seems the way to keep investors happy |
11:45 |
pankkake |
until, of course, well |
11:45 |
pankkake |
"they pay dividends" is the usual retort to any criticism |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, it's been through the years the most popular scam. "deposit lump sum, we'll pay you a few %s of it a few times. annuity ftw!" |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
but re the paper conundrum, take this ancient quote : trilema.com/digging-through-archives-yields-gold |
11:47 |
chetty |
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/feds-put-signs-telling-cats-stay-away/#axzz34uDAcwHz |
11:47 |
assbot |
Feds put up signs telling cats to stay away (Psst! Cat's can't read.) | The Libertarian Republic |
11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil financial network is bigger than the honest financial network, with the result that even though everyone knows what is happening, people continue to use the paper issued by the evil financial network, because of network effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use if you want to do business. |
11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a “collapse of the total financial system”, as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with “S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005″ but they |
11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s. |
11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigger, |
11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
ore disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks ar |
11:48 |
mircea_popescu |
guy knew EXACTLY what was going to be going on, back in... 2009. |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
this is also why stomping out us influence in bitcoin is quite so critical for its survival at this juncture. |
11:49 |
mircea_popescu |
they seem to not wish to submit, so they will have to be killed, pretty much. |
11:55 |
jurov |
!up chax |
11:56 |
jurov |
!up chax |
11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
lol the voiceless! |
11:56 |
fluffypony |
http://www.coindesk.com/search-ideal-bitcoin-jurisdiction/ |
11:56 |
assbot |
In Search of the Ideal Bitcoin Jurisdiction |
12:00 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.94523860 BTC to 9`095 shares, 21388 satoshi per share |
12:00 |
los_pantalones |
i always thought UAE would be the best jurisdiction for btc |
12:00 |
los_pantalones |
they already trade with everyone in the world |
12:00 |
los_pantalones |
and get stuck with USD |
12:02 |
los_pantalones |
but "jurisdiction" seems like a pointless word |
12:02 |
los_pantalones |
for something that operates outside borders |
12:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00082518 = 5.1161 BTC [+] |
12:06 |
jurov |
los_pantalones what's better word for poor schmucks like me that need to get the fiat out somehow? |
12:06 |
los_pantalones |
out of the country ? |
12:07 |
los_pantalones |
where you reside ? |
12:07 |
jurov |
slovankia/eu. but the VAT needs not be such a big problem as the paint it |
12:07 |
jurov |
*they |
12:08 |
jurov |
it isn't so much yet it would require offshore solution |
12:14 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00081947 = 12.5379 BTC [-] |
12:16 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00081861 = 10.1098 BTC [-] {2} |
12:20 |
chetty |
I dont see tax so much the issue as the bank squeeze |
12:20 |
los_pantalones |
chetty agreed |
12:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/17/why-its-over-for-litecoin/ |
12:22 |
davout |
did anyone buy the emblematic iranian shoes? |
| |
~ 15 minutes ~ |
12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
nope |
12:38 |
mircea_popescu |
which were those ? |
12:40 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell bitcoinpete you know, your litecoin article'd benefit from a lot more reductio ad absurdum and other directly-obvious proofs to displace most of the appeals to authority. |
12:40 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
if you say "<<At around US$30/LTC, its more affordable to outright purchase too. >> This author, like many a CoinDesker, is of the mistaken belief that buying a whole shitty thing just because you can afford it is better than buying a part of something far superior. Today, you can buy a million satoshis for $6 or you can buy most of the Dogecoin for sale on the market. Incredibly, some people will actually go for the la |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
ense. Affordability isnt what you think it is." |
12:41 |
mircea_popescu |
you're not helping your reader all that much. |
12:42 |
mircea_popescu |
if you say "By this logic, it is better to buy half of a pair of boots than a whole car" you are. |
12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
Right off the bat, we see that Litecoin is pitched at the average user. This, of course, is a huge red flag that Litecoin is doomed to failure. Anything aimed at the lowest common denominator must necessarily be shit. <<< like what, like air ? |
12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
take pussy for instance. pussy is constructed with the average user in mind. it's not shit, that's a different hole. |
12:43 |
mircea_popescu |
too strong statements put you in the unenviable position that a ready counterexample can be constructed that speaks to what you say, and then your entire argument looks weak, where it needn't. |
12:45 |
davout |
mircea_popescu: http://persianshoes.com/product/m126/ |
12:45 |
assbot |
M126 | Persian Shoes |
12:45 |
davout |
their shoes look rad |
12:46 |
davout |
also they were featured i some tv bitcoin documentary, what decided me to get some was how the iranian shoe maker made fun of the western journalists shoes |
12:47 |
davout |
handmade shoes for 150 bucks, plus i get to transact with iran |
12:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i dont see what's so special about them but anyway |
12:48 |
davout |
i desire them, that's what's special |
12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
aite then. dealing with iran isn't such a bad thing anyway |
12:48 |
mircea_popescu |
i recall back in 2012 when i was beating the bushes for sane iranian peoples lol |
12:51 |
jurov |
terrorist shoes!!1 |
12:52 |
jurov |
!up adrrr |
12:53 |
jurov |
http://i.imgur.com/IZkEbgI.jpg |
12:53 |
jurov |
sfw |
12:59 |
mircea_popescu |
!up edlund10 |
12:59 |
edlund10 |
thanks |
12:59 |
edlund10 |
http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/ |
12:59 |
assbot |
BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 7 hours | weight: 78`609 (100`000 to 1) |
13:00 |
edlund10 |
this bet should be already resolved as yes :) |
13:00 |
mircea_popescu |
leave a comment there then |
13:00 |
edlund10 |
i left it, but wasn't sure if it's enough |
13:04 |
mircea_popescu |
!up Dimsler |
13:04 |
Dimsler |
https://i.imgur.com/cG07rQU.jpg |
13:04 |
Dimsler |
lol |
13:04 |
Dimsler |
btc |
13:04 |
Dimsler |
i can't wait until the first kidnapping for btc occurs |
13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
i can't wait until people start reading the logs before they think they're being all newsworthy and shit |
13:05 |
mircea_popescu |
!down Dimsler |
13:05 |
jurov |
Dimsler,last i heard BingoBoingo arranges one with FARC |
13:07 |
adrrr |
bitbet odds are so ugly |
13:08 |
mircea_popescu |
how so |
13:10 |
kakobrekla |
adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind |
13:10 |
fluffypony |
;;later tell moiety I think I found the first cat that can take on a manul: http://i.imgur.com/PZNxrN4.jpg |
13:10 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
13:10 |
fluffypony |
kakobrekla: I thought it was the same design committee that did the UI design for apex? |
13:10 |
fluffypony |
s/apex/mpex |
13:11 |
adrrr |
kakobrekla: I didn't talk about the design, but the number |
13:12 |
kakobrekla |
fluffypony there is some intersection for sure. |
13:12 |
kakobrekla |
adrrr you want the number bigger or smaller? |
13:12 |
kakobrekla |
i can fix it in the css. |
13:13 |
jurov |
.odds: {font-family: comic-sans;} |
13:13 |
adrrr |
no not css or anything. By the way nice website ! I just think the odds are to bad to play. It's just what I think :D |
13:13 |
kakobrekla |
well |
13:14 |
kakobrekla |
is bigger one bigger than smaller one or no |
13:14 |
jurov |
adrr for example this for example had very good odds: http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/ |
13:14 |
assbot |
BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 6 hours | weight: 78`570 (100`000 to 1) |
13:15 |
jurov |
so what is the problem? |
13:15 |
kakobrekla |
i guess it depends if its == or ===. |
13:15 |
pankkake |
just do == || === to be sure |
13:15 |
pankkake |
unless you want == && === |
13:16 |
benkay |
<kakobrekla> adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind // ah i always knew it mircea_popescu is a DAC |
13:16 |
kakobrekla |
i usually use the shorthand ==(=) |
13:16 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
13:16 |
jurov |
kakobrekla usually uses 100-second minutes |
13:16 |
kakobrekla |
did you know a day is two nights long |
13:16 |
benkay |
or .1...but it doesn't matter, you know? |
13:17 |
adrrr |
anyway this is a good website |
13:17 |
benkay |
make sure your odds are ======== reality before betting |
13:17 |
adrrr |
yeah that's it |
13:17 |
pankkake |
adrrr: yes. I use it more for fun than profit. or at least that's what I tell myself :D |
13:17 |
benkay |
and your fees are ======= 0 |
13:18 |
pankkake |
0 rounded up |
13:18 |
benkay |
yeah hey i mean they're really small numbers |
13:19 |
adrrr |
sport bet website in bitcoins have bigger number than sport bet normal website. I think this is a good thing for bitcoin cause a lot of gamblers will realize that |
13:20 |
benkay |
bigger numbers are definitely best numbers |
13:20 |
pankkake |
no, not bigger. just more numbers |
13:20 |
pankkake |
adrrr: you might like http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/bitbet-affiliate-ad/ |
13:20 |
assbot |
BitBet Affiliate Ad - Btc Alpha |
13:20 |
adrrr |
lol I don't understand you, can we say better odds? |
13:22 |
kakobrekla |
would a smaller or bigger font be better ? |
13:22 |
pankkake |
!up adrrr |
13:22 |
adrrr |
that's not a problem of font |
13:23 |
adrrr |
you're kidding me |
13:23 |
kakobrekla |
but it would make the number smaller or bigger. :( |
13:23 |
jurov |
adrrr please say cmplete informatin or example - where do you get better odds? |
13:23 |
jurov |
if you don't qualify you easily become butt of jokes |
13:23 |
|
Bet placed: 1.25 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.13602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,558. |
13:25 |
adrrr |
For example on this bet : 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No |
13:25 |
adrrr |
When I see that I just don't wanna bet |
13:25 |
davout |
adrrr: that's because it's pari mutuel |
13:25 |
adrrr |
I'm gonna try to find an example with goods odds |
13:25 |
davout |
the way people bet is the way odds are defined |
13:26 |
adrrr |
oh so I'm a noob lol I didn't saw that |
13:26 |
adrrr |
It's a good idea ! |
13:26 |
adrrr |
lol |
13:27 |
mircea_popescu |
lolk |
13:27 |
kakobrekla |
so we are not changing the css? |
13:27 |
adrrr |
ahaha |
13:28 |
adrrr |
everything is fine kakobrekla |
13:28 |
kakobrekla |
kk! |
13:28 |
mircea_popescu |
better change it just to be sure (tm) |
13:28 |
adrrr |
I'll tell you what to do next ;) |
13:30 |
fluffypony |
kakobrekla: needs more jQuery |
13:30 |
fluffypony |
and webfonts |
13:31 |
adrrr |
and responsive design ! |
13:31 |
fluffypony |
yes |
13:31 |
fluffypony |
and PDF reports |
13:31 |
pankkake |
responsive is actually a good thing |
13:31 |
pankkake |
I like to have a narrow browser window and some websites really suck at it |
13:31 |
pankkake |
I hope you do your math with jquery http://r3dux.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/NotEnoughjQuery.jpg |
13:32 |
benkay |
you mean the dollar? |
13:33 |
benkay |
i do all of my ui with the htmldollar |
13:33 |
adrrr |
the picture is a joke |
13:35 |
fluffypony |
adrrr: it's serious business |
13:35 |
adrrr |
no it was just to explain to benkay that this is a joke |
13:35 |
adrrr |
(the picture) |
13:38 |
Mats_cd03 |
whoevers behind Unicode 7.0 is challenged |
13:39 |
Mats_cd03 |
new emoji, read like " cloud with tornado. snow capped mountain. white sun behind cloud." |
13:40 |
Mats_cd03 |
http://emojipedia.org/new-emoji/ |
13:41 |
jurov |
Mats_cd03 we aren't there yet. apparently there's still "diversity gap": http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2459629,00.asp |
13:41 |
assbot |
Vulcan Salute, Middle Finger Among 250 New Emojis | News & Opinion | PCMag.com |
13:41 |
jurov |
"the lineup still doesn't include any African-American characters" |
13:42 |
Mats_cd03 |
lol what |
13:46 |
fluffypony |
;;ud figjam |
13:46 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=figjam | Also a song, "FIGJAM (Fuck I'm Good Just Ask Me)" by Butterfingers, an Australian band. Bob: "Ahhh, finished tiling that roof at last..." Alan: "Yeah, FIGJAM!". |
13:50 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00082518 = 18.8141 BTC [+] |
13:53 |
kakobrekla |
!up adrrr |
13:53 |
kakobrekla |
ah he gone. |
13:54 |
kakobrekla |
i was just about to say something. |
13:54 |
kakobrekla |
o wait |
13:56 |
kakobrekla |
!up adrrr |
13:56 |
kakobrekla |
get yourself in the wont if you want to talk |
13:56 |
kakobrekla |
or wot |
13:56 |
adrrr |
yep i'm in |
13:56 |
adrrr |
i was just not logged in |
13:57 |
kakobrekla |
;;gettrust assbot adrrr |
13:57 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35752 @ 0.0008247 = 29.4847 BTC [-] {2} |
13:57 |
gribble |
Currently authenticated from hostmask adrrr!~adrrr@APuteaux-652-1-213-139.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr. Trust relationship from user assbot to user adrrr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=adrrr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=adrrr | Rated since: Thu May 22 05:23:03 2014 |
13:57 |
kakobrekla |
a ok |
13:58 |
FabianB |
$vwap s.mpoe |
13:58 |
empyex |
FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00082071 high: 0.0008265 low: 0.00081569 volume: 1300456 btc: 1067.29102587 7 day: average: 0.00082605 high: 0.00086895 low: 0.00081496 volume: 6563631 btc: 5421.87815351 30 day: average: 0.00087011 high: 0.00094991 low: 0.00079351 volume: 26687590 btc: 23221.15595391 |
13:58 |
FabianB |
$vwap s.bbet |
13:58 |
empyex |
FabianB: S.BBET 1 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 7 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 30 day: average: 0.00048526 high: 0.000525 low: 0.00047 volume: 8347 btc: 4.050485 |
13:59 |
kakobrekla |
4 btc, almost record volume |
14:01 |
jurov |
$vwap f.mpif |
14:01 |
empyex |
jurov: F.MPIF 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.00021705 high: 0.00021726 low: 0.00021536 volume: 95749 btc: 20.78211468 |
14:01 |
jurov |
:( |
14:03 |
jurov |
okay, if 30day volume will be NaN then it propagates into NAV calculation and all hell will break loose |
14:03 |
jurov |
*30day price, i mean |
14:03 |
FabianB |
curious about the next bbet statement |
14:06 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53950 @ 0.00081952 = 44.2131 BTC [-] {2} |
14:08 |
FabianB |
all worldcup bets should be resolved this period |
14:11 |
mike_c |
vwap30 if vwap30 else last_sale |
14:13 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0699 = 0.699 BTC [+] |
14:14 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.02 = 0.7 BTC [+] {2} |
14:17 |
FabianB |
$traded |
14:17 |
empyex |
FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.BBET S.MPOE X.EUR |
14:25 |
adrrr |
mpex.co need a good redesign ^^ |
14:26 |
kakobrekla |
iirc black version existed? |
14:27 |
FabianB |
still does |
14:27 |
FabianB |
http://mpex.co/?r=1 |
14:27 |
assbot |
MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. |
14:27 |
pankkake |
uglier than I remember |
14:29 |
kakobrekla |
dunno why but the thing reminds me of http://gli.tc/h/2112/ |
14:29 |
assbot |
GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++ |
14:30 |
pankkake |
well the white version looks much worse without my base firefox styles: https://i.imgur.com/uCtNgFa.png (except for graph integration) |
14:30 |
kakobrekla |
lots of fun css files in the dropdown |
14:30 |
mike_c |
ouch. black version needs to grey the background of the input box. much contrast. |
14:30 |
kakobrekla |
something like dat should be made for mpex |
14:30 |
kakobrekla |
for anyone that complains. |
14:32 |
kakobrekla |
example http://gli.tc/h/2112/index.php?css=8linkli_mrgnhgbyflwrs.css |
14:32 |
assbot |
GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++ |
14:41 |
jurov |
http://live.coinbr.com/images/mpex-sans-fs8.png totally rocks |
14:42 |
fluffypony |
yeah agreed jurov |
14:42 |
fluffypony |
that should be the default |
14:43 |
FabianB |
[√] empyex commands documented ( http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots ) |
14:43 |
assbot |
irc_bots [bitcoin assets wiki] |
14:43 |
jurov |
body { background: pink; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; } |
14:45 |
pankkake |
$proxies |
14:45 |
empyex |
pankkake: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ |
14:45 |
assbot |
MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. |
14:45 |
pankkake |
$mpexlag |
14:45 |
empyex |
pankkake: 145 milliseconds |
14:45 |
pankkake |
$unconfirmed |
14:45 |
empyex |
pankkake: 1794 |
14:46 |
pankkake |
$avg |
14:46 |
empyex |
pankkake: 597.67 |
14:50 |
FabianB |
jurov: mpex.coinbr.com down? |
14:50 |
jurov |
looks so |
14:53 |
jurov |
lol spot instances for $10/hr? someone gonna cry |
14:55 |
pankkake |
;;buy 1 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/ |
14:55 |
assbot |
ThinkGeek :: Firefly Inevitable Betrayal Dinosaurs with Sound |
14:55 |
gribble |
Error: 'dinos' is not a valid price input. |
14:55 |
FabianB |
jurov: for coinbr? |
14:55 |
pankkake |
;;view 20769 |
14:55 |
gribble |
#20769 Tue Jun 17 14:55:19 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/) |
14:56 |
jurov |
no,for the proxy... that's why it is down |
14:57 |
FabianB |
jurov: should i remove it from the list of proxies for now? |
14:57 |
jurov |
no, i'll relauch it elsewhere in a moment |
14:58 |
FabianB |
k |
15:00 |
BingoBoingo |
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/06/17/turkish_media_ban_media_in_turkey_stopped_from_covering_isis_abductions.html |
15:00 |
assbot |
Turkish media ban: Media in Turkey stopped from covering ISIS abductions. |
15:03 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00082518 = 13.9455 BTC [+] |
15:05 |
thestringpuller |
$book |
15:05 |
thestringpuller |
oops |
15:05 |
thestringpuller |
$depth MPOE |
15:05 |
empyex |
thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SFsBrGeQ |
15:05 |
thestringpuller |
grr |
15:05 |
thestringpuller |
$ticker MPOE |
15:05 |
thestringpuller |
$help |
15:05 |
empyex |
thestringpuller: Commands: '$avg' '$conference' '$depth' '$depth <mpsic>' '$email' '$help' '$moo' '$mpexlag' '$post <pastebin-url-with-signcrypted-mpex-command>' '$proxies' '$traded' '$unconfirmed' '$vwap' '$vwap <mpsic>' |
15:06 |
thestringpuller |
$moo |
15:06 |
empyex |
thestringpuller: It's starting to sound like Wal-Mart in here. |
15:07 |
mod6 |
did that one just replace pympex? |
15:07 |
mod6 |
err mpexbot? |
15:10 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00082554 = 21.464 BTC [+] {2} |
15:16 |
jurov |
mod6 no, just supplements it |
15:18 |
FabianB |
mod6: mpexbot yes |
15:18 |
mod6 |
ahh. |
15:19 |
FabianB |
thestringpuller: the mpsic is S.MPOE |
15:19 |
FabianB |
$depth s.mpoe |
15:19 |
empyex |
FabianB: [S.MPOE] Bids: 12750 @ 0.00082518 23135 @ 0.00082292 12291 @ 0.00082269 27100 @ 0.00081885 |
15:19 |
empyex |
FabianB: [S.MPOE] Asks: 3185 @ 0.00082558 14052 @ 0.00082650 40100 @ 0.00082715 31438 @ 0.00082725 |
15:20 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00082356 = 34.9189 BTC [-] {3} |
15:24 |
FabianB |
hmm.. thinking if i should let empyex tell thestringpuller to get the mpsics right instead of letting it default to raw depth |
15:24 |
pankkake |
it should kick you everytime you make an error |
15:26 |
FabianB |
lol |
15:26 |
FabianB |
i guess that would be more assbot's style |
15:26 |
jurov |
it should do bait |
15:40 |
|
Bet created: "Petamine at over .08 per share before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/946/ |
15:45 |
|
Bet created: "World Cup 2014: At least one red card issued during the final" http://bitbet.us/bet/947/ |
15:52 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29977 @ 0.0008245 = 24.716 BTC [+] {2} |
15:52 |
BingoBoingo |
;;ticker |
15:52 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.3, Best ask: 597.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 595.85, 24 hour volume: 4787.75305818, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.0, 24 hour vwap: 592.934258693 |
15:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14052 @ 0.0008265 = 11.614 BTC [+] |
15:55 |
BingoBoingo |
%book |
15:55 |
atcbot |
35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 |
16:03 |
|
Bet created: "World Cup 2014: Brazil to win" http://bitbet.us/bet/948/ |
16:17 |
bitcoinpete |
;;later tell mircea_popescu thanks for the tips! i made a few amendments at those points. |
16:17 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
16:18 |
BingoBoingo |
http://valleywag.gawker.com/gym-bags-full-of-cash-is-a-great-metaphor-for-celebrity-1591996703/+laceydonohue |
16:18 |
assbot |
Gym Bags Full of Cash Is a Great Metaphor for Celebrity Tech Investing |
16:24 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.20000004 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2} |
16:25 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4078 @ 0.00082654 = 3.3706 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 1 hours 18 minutes ~ |
17:43 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.000827 = 4.8793 BTC [+] |
| |
~ 28 minutes ~ |
18:12 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2493 @ 0.00082654 = 2.0606 BTC [-] |
| |
~ 19 minutes ~ |
18:31 |
benkay |
!up gabriel_laddel |
18:31 |
kakobrekla |
gl benkay |
18:31 |
kakobrekla |
!up gabriel_laddel |
18:31 |
kakobrekla |
ha |
18:32 |
kakobrekla |
how many asseters does it take to up gabriel_laddel |
18:32 |
benkay |
what is even state |
18:32 |
gabriel_laddel |
monads |
18:32 |
* |
kakobrekla gets off the fail train |
18:37 |
jurov |
http://animals.io9.com/why-are-these-bears-having-oral-sex-1590980883 |
18:37 |
assbot |
Why Are These Bears Having Oral Sex? |
18:38 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.0008254 = 24.8033 BTC [-] {2} |
18:51 |
mircea_popescu |
o hey nice find |
18:52 |
mircea_popescu |
so only mammals that like fruits are cocksuckers ? |
18:55 |
BingoBoingo |
;;tslb |
18:55 |
gribble |
Time since last block: 13 minutes and 47 seconds |
18:57 |
mircea_popescu |
lol all the mpex css modders! |
18:58 |
mircea_popescu |
jurov: it should do bait << it should do mp approved bait. |
18:58 |
mircea_popescu |
want a list of tumblrs ? |
18:59 |
jurov |
FabianB: ^ |
18:59 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.201 = 0.603 BTC [-] |
19:00 |
mircea_popescu |
so i took fluffypony's advice and hired a coupla dozen fiverr kids. since pretty much the only thing they seem to be able to do that's useful is put up/distribute flyers on their campus, im having a coupla dozen do that |
19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
curious what exactly comes out of this |
19:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Nice, what campuses are these? |
19:01 |
mircea_popescu |
i dunno, mostly us |
19:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Ah, just wondering if I might stumble into any this week |
19:03 |
BingoBoingo |
%ticker |
19:03 |
atcbot |
[X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 235 Last Price: 150 24h-Vol: 3k High: 180 Low: 150 VWAP: 153 |
19:04 |
Naphex |
"Andreas Antonopolous delivers a stunning presentation of crypto currency to a virtual room full of knowledge seeking students." |
19:04 |
Naphex |
who writes these titles o.o |
19:04 |
BingoBoingo |
%book |
19:04 |
atcbot |
35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140 |
19:05 |
jurov |
;;ticker |
19:05 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 605.98, Best ask: 607.49, Bid-ask spread: 1.51000, Last trade: 607.49, 24 hour volume: 6175.46701712, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.703307988 |
19:06 |
mircea_popescu |
o look who's back |
19:06 |
Naphex |
i got back a while ago, but mostly just sitting and idling |
19:07 |
jurov |
!up dR3buttnix |
19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
makes two of us lol |
19:07 |
Naphex |
trying to lax a bit before getting multicurrency live |
19:07 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo i vaguely remember chicago something or the other. |
19:08 |
BingoBoingo |
I'm not headed that far north soon, but I'll keep a look out. |
19:11 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082545 = 3.3843 BTC [+] |
19:14 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/bitcoin-upward-trend-a-prediction-for-legs-4-5/ |
19:21 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/litecoins-swan-song/ |
19:26 |
asciilifeform |
i get up for one day into meatspace, and back - and now 'rentacoder' is back from the dead?! or what is that 'fiver' thing |
19:28 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform rentabonger. |
19:28 |
asciilifeform |
;;ud bonger |
19:28 |
gribble |
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bonger | Upload a picture of bonger. 2. bongers. greatest last name granted to a person. Usually resides in a man cave, playing madden. Very fun name to say. Ladies ... |
19:28 |
TheNewDeal |
bc,stats |
19:29 |
mike_c |
mircea_popescu: flyers promoting what? |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c i'd show you but i'm ashamed |
19:30 |
mircea_popescu |
it's a pdf |
19:30 |
asciilifeform |
shame or not, there still exists no universal replacement for pdf (unless you count postscript) |
19:30 |
mike_c |
ooh, now I'm the curious one. |
19:31 |
mike_c |
it's for your band isn't it? |
19:31 |
mircea_popescu |
mnope |
19:31 |
mircea_popescu |
ok ok here we go : |
19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyer.pdf |
19:32 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you don't count post script, because you're dealing with random college kids. |
19:33 |
mike_c |
hm, that is interesting. seems like it will be difficult to measure the effect. |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: your students hablan inglés ? |
19:34 |
TheNewDeal |
los estudiantes |
19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c buy some kids a beer. what effect do you expect ? |
19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform which you mean ? |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
the locals |
19:34 |
mircea_popescu |
it's fiverr not cinqueeee |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
(presumably meatspace flyer ?) |
19:34 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
19:36 |
mike_c |
well, effects would be: 1) do they do the work (maybe they have to send you a pic?) 2) does anyone read it |
19:37 |
mike_c |
i spend too much time trying to figure out which 50% of advertising works. |
19:37 |
mthreat |
pearl necklaces hah |
19:37 |
mircea_popescu |
mike_c in general i find us kids can be more or less trusted to go through the motions / respect the formal parts of the spec |
19:38 |
TheNewDeal |
Bitcoins foremost educational resource |
19:38 |
TheNewDeal |
love it |
19:38 |
mircea_popescu |
they don't usually do anything useful, but it's never for lack of pretending like they tried. |
19:38 |
mircea_popescu |
TheNewDeal i had something similar in romanian a few years ago |
19:38 |
mircea_popescu |
it drove people NUTS |
19:38 |
TheNewDeal |
hahaha |
19:39 |
mircea_popescu |
they'd have like beer parties dedicated to discussing just how fucking just not done such deeds are. |
19:39 |
TheNewDeal |
like Nikola Tesla nuts or Timothy McVeigh nuts? |
19:40 |
mircea_popescu |
like angry german kid nuts |
19:40 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [-] |
19:40 |
mircea_popescu |
or w/e, reddit nuts |
19:40 |
TheNewDeal |
ewww |
19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
;;ticker |
19:41 |
gribble |
Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 603.31, Best ask: 606.71, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 604.58, 24 hour volume: 6255.76911036, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.9930859 |
19:42 |
BingoBoingo |
!jd mpif |
19:42 |
assbot |
Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.86463072 BTC; -0.23519938 BTC (-0.1375%) since last check 1d 2h 59m 48s ago. |
19:42 |
BingoBoingo |
Needs moar klye |
19:42 |
mircea_popescu |
totally. |
19:50 |
Mats_cd03 |
i can't tell if you're trying to bait college feminists into marketing trilema |
19:50 |
Mats_cd03 |
or just being yourself. |
19:52 |
TheNewDeal |
what if he is accomplishing both at the same time |
19:53 |
TheNewDeal |
insert Neo meme |
20:07 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00082407 = 6.1393 BTC [-] |
20:09 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00082407 = 20.0249 BTC [-] |
20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
Mats_cd03 right ? |
20:17 |
mircea_popescu |
btw moiety_ http://trilema.com/2011/pisicute/ |
20:17 |
assbot |
Pisicute pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. |
20:24 |
moiety_ |
mircea_popescu: they are so tiny! so cute, but they need some biscuits |
20:24 |
moiety_ |
are they yours? |
20:24 |
moiety_ |
googles not translating well for me D; |
20:25 |
moiety_ |
perhaps mine are just fat cats |
20:28 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.06700542 = 0.7371 BTC [+] {2} |
20:29 |
moiety |
ffs freenode |
20:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27366 @ 0.00082545 = 22.5893 BTC [+] |
20:31 |
Mats_cd03 |
for future reference, the no poo pills i was referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loperamide |
20:31 |
assbot |
Loperamide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
20:32 |
asciilifeform |
Mats_cd03: interesting case of the kind of thinking that gave us, e.g. DXM |
20:33 |
Mats_cd03 |
i may have used it a few times to punish a thief in the office |
20:33 |
asciilifeform |
Mats_cd03: 'let's take a drug that's been known for 5,000 years, but is too much fun; nip at the structure a bit until we have a - anti-diarrheal, cough suppressant, etc. that's almost as good as opium.' |
20:33 |
Mats_cd03 |
thats p much how rx research works no? |
20:33 |
Mats_cd03 |
brute force all of the things. see what works, rinse, repeat. |
20:34 |
asciilifeform |
Mats_cd03: not necessarily - where in nature do you find, e.g. ssri |
20:34 |
asciilifeform |
talking about the goal, vs. the process |
20:34 |
Mats_cd03 |
o |
20:34 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: SSRI came from... Benadryl! |
20:34 |
asciilifeform |
sure. |
20:34 |
asciilifeform |
dxm, loperamide, etc. solve what might be called 'fiat problems' |
20:35 |
Mats_cd03 |
after 1 no pill a day for 4 days during a field exercise, i was literally full of shit |
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20:35 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/ |
20:35 |
Mats_cd03 |
i used a scale...my poop was 4.6 pounds |
20:35 |
asciilifeform |
in both examples, ordinary opium is the champ |
20:36 |
asciilifeform |
interestingly, sometimes the pharma folks fail: they spent some years trying to cough up a dopamine reuptake inhibitor that doesn't reduce to a synthetic cocaine, and, afaik, gave up |
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↖ ↖ |
20:37 |
asciilifeform |
1) pick a problem 2) ban solution 3) ??? 4) profit! |
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↖ |
20:40 |
asciilifeform |
this is why the 'optimize for patentability' process is an inevitable crock of shit. when the scamz0rs can't enclose the commons - they torch them. |
20:40 |
moiety |
is it just me or does the trilema header change more frequently these days? |
20:43 |
mike_c |
the latter. |
20:44 |
mike_c |
Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale. |
20:44 |
moiety |
thanks mike_c |
20:44 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.00082545 = 7.7105 BTC [+] |
20:45 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4159 @ 0.00082669 = 3.4382 BTC [+] |
20:46 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: They founf a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor in Bupropion. Note the substitution that was made... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion |
20:46 |
assbot |
Bupropion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
20:46 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: so weak as to be almost useless. |
20:46 |
BingoBoingo |
(The interesting part is the picture... check the ring) |
20:47 |
asciilifeform |
which is the way usg likes it. |
20:47 |
Mats_cd03 |
mike_c: har har |
20:47 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Not useless, just... dangerous in actually useful amounts. |
20:47 |
asciilifeform |
~= useless. |
20:49 |
moiety |
i get the kitten post now. good work mircea_popescu lol you need to source some ar ones. |
20:51 |
asciilifeform |
btc folks who expect to 'can have problems' from daring to demonetize the dollar should contemplate gedankenexperiment - what'd happen to a nation that 'demonetizes'... cocaine. (that is, establishes dirt-cheap production & distribution.) if your starfish doesn't quiver at the thought of the 'problems you can have' then... |
20:51 |
moiety |
bupropion is given rarely here as an antidepressant but more as an anti smoking thing, as its not licensed in the same was as in the us |
20:51 |
moiety |
way* |
20:51 |
asciilifeform |
learn how alchemists were treated back when influential folks thought that alchemy might work |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
BingoBoingo: the basic idea behind the 'antidepressant' market is at least as mistaken as the phlogiston theory. so what kind of result can be expected. |
20:56 |
BingoBoingo |
asciilifeform: Of course, well at least it has been since MOAIs fell to the wayside. |
20:57 |
BingoBoingo |
;;google new nardil sucks |
20:57 |
gribble |
Old Nardil Vs. New Nardil - Emsam and other MAOIs - Crazy Talk ...: <http://www.crazymeds.us/CrazyTalk/index.php/topic/5897-old-nardil-vs-new-nardil/>; Nardil and Dry Mouth - Depression: <http://depression.emedtv.com/nardil/nardil-and-dry-mouth.html>; Drug Ratings for NARDIL - Ask a Patient: (1 more message) |
20:57 |
BingoBoingo |
Seems drugs can have problems too |
20:57 |
BingoBoingo |
moiety: Here Bupropion is used frequently when people discover aspects of the SSRI side effect profile. |
20:58 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. impotence |
20:58 |
BingoBoingo |
impotence, inability to orgasm,... the full set is rather large |
20:59 |
asciilifeform |
the basic formula of antidepressant market: 1) http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#722631 2) side effects are a gift from the gods: 10 side effects - 10 kinds of pill you can now sell. |
20:59 |
assbot |
#bitcoin-assets log |
20:59 |
asciilifeform |
i've met folks taking 5+ psych meds, mostly against... each other |
21:01 |
mircea_popescu |
moiety those were babies |
21:01 |
BingoBoingo |
It's usually how things work |
21:01 |
* |
asciilifeform notes similarity to the software 'industry' |
21:01 |
moiety |
i had a patient that was on so many conflicting medications his liver was shutting down. every time i saw him, he was thinner and felt worse and they just wouldn't do anything. i'm worried what happened to him since i left |
21:02 |
BingoBoingo |
The only significant problem with MAOIs was they prevented selling the patient other drugs... at least drugs that aren't amphetamines |
21:02 |
mircea_popescu |
<mike_c> Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale. << freezer bags ftw |
21:02 |
assbot |
Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2TGGQA7.txt ) |
21:02 |
BingoBoingo |
!b 1 |
21:03 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform << i don't see it. columbia. |
21:03 |
Mats_cd03 |
dafuq am i going to do with freezer bags |
21:03 |
asciilifeform |
columbia << not a military giant who can make the 'demonetization' stick globally. |
21:04 |
asciilifeform |
a la brits/opium/19th-c. |
21:04 |
moiety |
they have started bowel screening here for the 50+. you get cardboard sticks and instructions to shit on your bagged hand and smear it on a chart with said sticks, which you do over the course of X days and send it off to the GP |
21:04 |
moiety |
poor postmen |
21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform well now that all depends. |
21:05 |
mircea_popescu |
you can buy cocaine can't you ? |
21:05 |
asciilifeform |
cocaine demonetization is, of course, gedankenexperiment. nobody interesting is particularly well-positioned to benefit from it, and so it won't happen - just as cardboard full-height replica of eiffel's tower won't happen. |
21:06 |
moiety |
Mats_cd03: use it like a mit lol |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
fun fact : psychiatrists with child practices occasionally get to see cases of prepubescent kids that anally masturbate with their shit and end up with serious constipation issues |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
apparently it's a thing |
21:07 |
mircea_popescu |
(documented for centuries etc) |
21:07 |
asciilifeform |
herr doktor freud |
21:08 |
Mats_cd03 |
wat |
21:08 |
Mats_cd03 |
for fucks sake |
21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
Mats_cd03 welcome to -assets, where you broaden |
21:09 |
mircea_popescu |
your horizonts. |
21:11 |
asciilifeform |
(coke is no more difficult to churn out by the gigaton than, e.g. progesterone. do you see it at local pharmacist for a penny a dose? didn't think so. because it is a kind of chemical / international fiat currency. with all of the features that come with such.) |
21:11 |
mircea_popescu |
notrly. sugar is a better comparison |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
coke is an agro product. and for that matter, quite similar to sugar |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
so your gedanken experiment could well be carried out in a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal. |
21:12 |
mircea_popescu |
http://www.imperialsugar.com/vintage-imperial-sugar/vintage-commercials |
21:12 |
assbot |
Vintage Commercials | Imperial Sugar |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
could easily become the same kind of 'agro product' as... insulin. |
21:12 |
asciilifeform |
(bacterium is energetically-cheaper than plowing fields) |
21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i wonder. |
21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
if this were true coke market in the us would be like meth market |
21:13 |
mircea_popescu |
it's not. |
21:13 |
asciilifeform |
genetically diddling e-coli is tricky. |
21:13 |
TheNewDeal |
wait are we talking about Coke or coke |
21:13 |
asciilifeform |
c |
21:14 |
TheNewDeal |
I was going to say, Coke is verrry similar to sugar |
21:15 |
TheNewDeal |
still won't see it for 1 cent at your local whatnot |
21:15 |
mircea_popescu |
actually coke is very similar to fructose |
21:15 |
asciilifeform |
coke market in the us would be like meth market << nope. bioreactor (aside from somebody having to jump the hurdle and produce the transgenic critter in the first place) is a considerably more cerebral undertaking than grignard reaction in a garage. |
21:16 |
TheNewDeal |
fructose is sugar |
21:16 |
TheNewDeal |
subset |
21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you say this on the basis of what. |
21:17 |
asciilifeform |
a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal... an agro product << point of the second (e. coli) gedankenexperiment isn't that the planet needs a gigaton of coke (perhaps it does, but i digress) but would be to profit maximally off the 'demonetization.' |
21:17 |
mircea_popescu |
people microbrew, god love them. |
21:17 |
asciilifeform |
which 'this' ? |
21:18 |
mircea_popescu |
"is a considerably more cerebral" |
21:18 |
asciilifeform |
aha |
21:18 |
* |
asciilifeform was involved in a (failed) project to churn out butyrylcholinesterase via transgenics. |
21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
ya but i mean... |
21:19 |
mircea_popescu |
before every hick set his garage on fire trying to make meth |
21:20 |
mircea_popescu |
people thought organic synthesis is a cerebral endeavour |
21:20 |
mircea_popescu |
now they have a reality show abvout it |
21:20 |
asciilifeform |
it is again - when the one-step precursors are unavailable |
21:20 |
asciilifeform |
(the hicks don't start with a bag of carbon, a bottle of water...) |
21:20 |
TheNewDeal |
or you just have to know people that steal a gigaton of the precursor? |
21:21 |
asciilifeform |
in this scenario, the 'cerebral' work was done for you - by the folks who built the plant which churns out pseudoephedrine by the gigaton |
21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
"Current meds: lamotrigine 300mg, topiramate 325mg, buspirone 60mg, protriptyline 60mg, EPA 600mg, methylphenidate 5-10mg, lorazepam 1mg PRN |
21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
Past meds (likely incomplete): Abilify, clonazepam, desipramine, diazepam, Gabitril, lithium, Neurontin, Paxil, prochlorperazine, Provigil, Prozac, Risperdal, Seroquel, Serzone, Strattera, Trileptal, Zyprexa" |
21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
poor livers. |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
poor cns. |
21:22 |
TheNewDeal |
who has this list? |
21:22 |
mircea_popescu |
what cns ? |
21:22 |
TheNewDeal |
central nervous system |
21:22 |
asciilifeform |
central nervous |
21:23 |
mircea_popescu |
http://crazy-meds1.blogspot.com << this guy |
21:23 |
assbot |
Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection |
21:23 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform i know dude. the idea is there's no such thing in there |
21:24 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
if before dr. mengele got to him - there was - certainly not after. |
21:26 |
TheNewDeal |
I like this guy alreadh |
21:26 |
asciilifeform |
(likely that, in the future, folks will view today's medical profession in much the same light we see herr mengele) |
21:27 |
TheNewDeal |
many currently do |
21:27 |
mircea_popescu |
medical profession maybe not, but the "mental health" "professionals" definitely. |
21:28 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00082498 = 9.6523 BTC [-] |
21:28 |
asciilifeform |
by and large, they 'are only following orders' - as described by, e.g. TLP. but still. |
21:28 |
TheNewDeal |
tlp? |
21:29 |
asciilifeform |
;;google the last psychiatrist |
21:29 |
gribble |
The Last Psychiatrist: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/>; The Last Psychiatrist Archives: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/archives.html>; The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies?: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/05/cyberbll.html> |
21:29 |
TheNewDeal |
gribble quit it with the ">;" crap |
21:31 |
nubbins` |
can't leave a dangling < |
21:31 |
BingoBoingo |
http://crazy-meds1.blogspot.com << this guy << His pre-CNS collapse occupation if you read deep enough, Big Iron Programmer. |
21:31 |
assbot |
Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection |
21:33 |
nubbins` |
makes sense |
21:33 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform people hung for just following orders at nurnberg |
21:33 |
mircea_popescu |
one day people will hang for just following orders in what once was washington, dc, too. |
21:33 |
asciilifeform |
aye. |
21:33 |
nubbins` |
more for following the wrong ones |
21:33 |
mircea_popescu |
exactly. |
21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo that's right. |
21:34 |
nubbins` |
which is why one should avoid being placed in situations where one can be easily ordered |
21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
just like turing. |
21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
nubbins` naive copout that. you're always ordered. |
21:34 |
mircea_popescu |
the only solution is to pick a good sovereign and stick to it. |
21:35 |
nubbins` |
or rather, where the enforcing of said ordering is a common occurrence |
21:35 |
asciilifeform |
'you commit atrocities with the sovereign you have, not the sovereign you wish you had.' (apologies to mr bush) |
21:35 |
nubbins` |
unfortunately, picking a good sovereign likely requires you to pass through the hands of the worst sovereign of them all (int'l border control) |
21:36 |
mircea_popescu |
maybe |
21:37 |
asciilifeform |
good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal |
21:38 |
mircea_popescu |
;;google "is a source of immense satisfaction to me" |
21:38 |
gribble |
Use immense in a sentence | immense sentence examples: <http://sentence.yourdictionary.com/immense>; It gives me immense pleasure to inform all the members and ...: <http://www.b-u.ac.in/bu-icai/syllabus.pdf>; Immense | Define Immense at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immense> |
21:39 |
mircea_popescu |
check it out, google has managed to erase history. the only winner of nurenberg doesn't exist in the brave new world. |
21:39 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
21:39 |
Apocalyptic |
mircea_popescu, are you ordered too ? |
21:39 |
mircea_popescu |
no, i'm an asshole. |
21:41 |
mircea_popescu |
<asciilifeform> good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal << this reduces to saying there's nothing to live for. |
21:41 |
asciilifeform |
some of us live for the unicorn hunt. |
21:41 |
nubbins` |
the meat is so tasty |
21:42 |
mircea_popescu |
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Okapi2.jpg |
21:42 |
asciilifeform |
even should it be necessary to genetically diddle goats to obtain said beast |
21:42 |
nubbins` |
i've seen one of those in person |
21:42 |
nubbins` |
in uh |
21:42 |
nubbins` |
in mammal |
21:42 |
* |
nubbins` shrugs uncomfortably |
21:43 |
nubbins` |
meanwhile, in vancouver: http://i.imgur.com/qKcGpzi.jpg |
21:44 |
TheNewDeal |
hahaha |
21:44 |
asciilifeform |
can't dig it up in nature? build. unless we have hands solely to jack off with. |
21:44 |
TheNewDeal |
most definitely the latter |
21:45 |
asciilifeform |
dovetails nicely with the discussion of recombinant cocain-excreting e.coli. |
21:45 |
mircea_popescu |
lol such dude |
21:45 |
TheNewDeal |
gimme somma dat |
21:47 |
moiety |
http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/rolf-steiner-cow-gets-stuck-on-roof-in-swiss-alps-4764420/ |
21:47 |
assbot |
Rolf Steiner: Cow gets stuck on roof near Swiss Alps | Metro News |
21:47 |
moiety |
this cow needs some time in the park |
21:49 |
nubbins` |
cow chilling park |
21:50 |
BingoBoingo |
Suggested sidebar link http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/ouch-man-slaps-an-opossum-gets-a-handful-of-400-porcupine-quills-4765333/ |
21:50 |
assbot |
Brazilian man slaps an opossum, gets a handful of 400 porcupine quills | Metro News |
21:50 |
asciilifeform |
philosophy of building with own hands >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji4t6QQn8KM << english translation in 'show more' tab |
21:50 |
assbot |
- /You are a Man ( ) - YouTube |
21:51 |
moiety |
oh nubbins`, i watched quite a few films when i was internetless. This is really good: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242460/ (also shutter island and inception but i think i'm the only one in the world who hadn't seen those yet) |
21:51 |
assbot |
We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011) - IMDb |
21:52 |
moiety |
how on earth did that man get the two confused |
21:53 |
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Bet created: "Suarez to stay at Liverpool" http://bitbet.us/bet/949/ |
21:53 |
TheNewDeal |
and inception returns to mediocrity after you watch it a couple more times |
21:54 |
TheNewDeal |
was great the first time, good the second, ... |
21:54 |
moiety |
i don't understand how anyone could have found it confusing |
21:54 |
TheNewDeal |
most people are... stupid? |
21:54 |
moiety |
fair point |
21:54 |
TheNewDeal |
or lack attention spans that last 120+ minutes |
21:54 |
TheNewDeal |
some combination |
21:55 |
moiety |
most people don't watch memento the full way through or complain it doesn't make sense either |
21:55 |
mircea_popescu |
;;later tell organofcorti nice site btw |
21:55 |
gribble |
The operation succeeded. |
21:56 |
mircea_popescu |
http://organofcorti.blogspot.com << he's like the mike_c of mining |
21:56 |
assbot |
Neighbourhood Pool Watch |
21:57 |
BingoBoingo |
And he's been doing it for quite a while |
21:57 |
nubbins` |
http://i.imgur.com/BxIRSGj.jpg |
21:57 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo kinda how one gets good yeah |
21:58 |
TheNewDeal |
moiety momento was quality |
22:02 |
moiety |
i thought so too TheNewDeal |
22:07 |
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Bet created: "A pool will have at least 51% of the Bitcoin network" http://bitbet.us/bet/950/ |
22:07 |
TheNewDeal |
ridiculous http://kotaku.com/decades-later-someones-discovered-a-new-super-mario-br-1591884544?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow |
22:07 |
assbot |
Decades Later, Someone's Discovered a New Super Mario Bros. Glitch |
22:10 |
TheNewDeal |
so does that 51% have to occur over a week time period? |
22:11 |
TheNewDeal |
faack gotta go to sleep |
22:14 |
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Bet created: "Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza" http://bitbet.us/bet/951/ |
22:14 |
mircea_popescu |
kakobrekla o look at that, 179:144 |
22:15 |
kakobrekla |
you will never reach my registration date! |
22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
damn |
22:15 |
mircea_popescu |
I WAS BUSY THAT MAY DAMNIT |
22:16 |
mircea_popescu |
;;bc,stats |
22:16 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 306422 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 9 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 11 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13448095222.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.38809 |
22:17 |
mircea_popescu |
sooo 14 seems certain huh. |
22:18 |
mike_c |
unless.. http://bitbet.us/bet/871/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall-in-2014/ |
22:18 |
assbot |
BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (62%) on Yes, 0.81 B (38%) on No | closing in 6 months 1 day| weight: 91`228 (100`000 to 1) |
22:21 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21959695 = 1.5372 BTC [+] {3} |
22:24 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah i guess. |
22:30 |
BingoBoingo |
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/did-la-kings-fans-take-out-lapd-drone-during-stanley-cup-party-135942533.html |
22:30 |
assbot |
Did LA Kings fans take out LAPD drone during Stanley Cup party? | Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports |
22:31 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00082669 = 4.7741 BTC [+] |
22:42 |
penguirker |
New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/kncminer-expects-ship-20nm-week/ |
22:44 |
mike_c |
hmph. well, maybe 14 is for sure :) |
22:46 |
assbot |
[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.0000985 = 1.4775 BTC [-] {2} |
22:57 |
mircea_popescu |
knc kinda delivers don't they |
22:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Often broken and shitty product, but yeah |
22:59 |
asciilifeform |
miner... delivers << still seems analogous to... if toilet paper were always shipped lightly-used. |
23:00 |
mircea_popescu |
lol |
23:00 |
cazalla |
knc bet might just get there heh |
23:04 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8885 @ 0.00082679 = 7.346 BTC [+] {2} |
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23:22 |
benkay |
http://nsapwn.com |
23:22 |
assbot |
NSA Pwnage Calculator |
23:24 |
asciilifeform |
benkay: related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9OGmaGwoo << translation: 'who is stronger? elephant, or whale?' |
23:24 |
assbot |
- YouTube |
23:37 |
trinque |
benkay: that makes me think govt control of BTC is hard to avoid |
23:38 |
Mats_cd03 |
21:29 <•TheNewDeal> gribble quit it with the ">;" crap << your client sucks, mine parses it correctly |
23:41 |
Mats_cd03 |
;;bc,stats |
23:41 |
gribble |
Current Blocks: 306432 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 24 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 53850340580.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 300.00015 |
23:41 |
Mats_cd03 |
lol? |
23:46 |
Mats_cd03 |
;;math 1.3462^1.04 |
23:46 |
gribble |
Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462^1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin. |
23:46 |
Mats_cd03 |
;;math 1.3462**1.04 |
23:46 |
gribble |
Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462**1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin. |
23:46 |
Mats_cd03 |
fuck you |
23:53 |
assbot |
[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.00082725 = 3.8583 BTC [+] |