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00:00 decimation yeah and the elites know it, even if only in the hindbrain
00:01 decimation perhaps the fate of the US is to have a "russian 90's" and then see a putin-like figure arise. I kinda doubt it though, because of the intense allergy us folk have to anyone telling them what to do
00:05 decimation asciilifeform: I think you wrote about how the effects of the nuke bomb were seriously hyped back in the cold war days. Here's an interesting link: http://glasstone.blogspot.com/
00:05 assbot Declassified effects of nuclear weapons and other threats: minimizing weapons effects on civilians
00:05 decimation it's a bit wordy, but the bottom line is that civil defense against nuclear weapons is extremely effective
00:06 decimation if you get most of your population into extremely cheap bunkers quickly, very few will die
00:06 decimation this is an inconvienent fact if you want to hype the bomb into a mega-weapon in order to manipulate the masses into supporting your "peace programs"
00:07 decimation so - civil defense got the boot.
00:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.06539315 = 1.8964 BTC [-] {4}
00:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00082175 = 14.3395 BTC [+] {2}
00:16 Mats_cd03 uh and the trillions in infrastructure damage?
00:17 decimation right, but the point is that a realistic nuclear attack isn't going to be much more damaging than conventional bombs if defenses are prepared
00:19 nubbins` [01:04:30] <+bitstein> ;;rate napedia 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. Wicked smart. Lots of privilege.
00:19 nubbins` ^ lel, but how many t-shirts?
00:19 decimation "If you want peace, be ready for war. If you want to encourage aggressors, disarm."
00:23 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06698006 = 0.6698 BTC [+]
00:34 BingoBoingo ;;later tell decimation Is our last name Teller by any chance?
00:34 gribble The operation succeeded.
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00:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00082408 = 25.1756 BTC [+] {2}
00:55 BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/top-us-patent-judge-resigns-following-ethical-breach/
00:55 assbot Top US patent judge resigns following ethical breach | Ars Technica
01:00 BingoBoingo ;;later tell decimation something in the long run you'l have to grapple with here is the apparent aversion people have to eating strange.
01:00 gribble The operation succeeded.
01:01 BingoBoingo http://screamer.deadspin.com/there-are-no-giraffes-in-ghana-delta-1591759195/+Sean-Newell
01:01 assbot There Are No Giraffes In Ghana, Delta
01:06 BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/report-seattle-paid-17500-to-boost-online-reputation-of-city-official/
01:06 assbot Report: Seattle paid $17,500 to boost online reputation of city official | Ars Technica
01:14 mircea_popescu cheap.
01:15 mircea_popescu the us paid ~500mn to boost online reputation of white house official.
01:15 BingoBoingo lol
01:16 mircea_popescu !up RedStallion
01:16 BingoBoingo Malaki paid ~1200 soldiers to keep his boys in Baghdad from deserting.
01:17 mircea_popescu now that's cheap
01:17 BingoBoingo Historically yeah.
01:18 BingoBoingo http://www.bestgore.com/execution/photo-mass-execution-iraq-soldiers-isis/
01:18 assbot Photos of Mass Executions of Iraqi Soldiers by ISIS | Best Gore
01:19 mircea_popescu ouch
01:20 BingoBoingo It's why I'm leaning towards predicting partition.
01:21 mircea_popescu i think iran will invade if that's on the books.
01:22 BingoBoingo Sure, they probably take the south. The Kurds keep the productive north. Isis keeps the bullshit parts.
01:22 mircea_popescu yeah, right.
01:24 mircea_popescu the notion of any sort of kurdish state would require commitment to the level of 100k boots on the ground for a few years, and then ongoing support a la israel.
01:25 mircea_popescu and the kurds aren't the jews, either.
01:26 BingoBoingo At the moment though Iraqi Kurds have money, they actually like the hardware the US left them, and Turkey prolly wants to trim its welfare rolls...
01:26 mircea_popescu it's a pipe dream
01:27 mircea_popescu i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time.
01:27 BingoBoingo Well, UN sort of Statehood is, but they can prolly keep this feudal de fact autonomy going a few decades. Also UN sort of statehood is on its way out.
01:28 BingoBoingo So how do we spec "i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time" for BitBet?
01:29 mircea_popescu and since we're discussing the war in iraq, let's debunk some common myths. the us has spent close to 2 trillion on it so far, which balloons to 7 trillion if you count interest payments, as the us is flat broke (the affair will be paid for by 2055ish).
01:29 mircea_popescu this includes ~ 100k ak guns missing, about half a trillion in disappeared funds, including billions paid to known outright washington graft
01:29 BingoBoingo No dispute there.
01:29 mircea_popescu the revenue from iraqi oil was 5 bn in 2013.
01:30 BingoBoingo I though at least a full trillion disappeared into the hole and graft...
01:30 mircea_popescu that's 0.1% of the total cost, roughly speaking.
01:30 mircea_popescu NOT worth it. in fact, if the usg simply invested its 7trn budget into bitcointalk "investments" the us would be ahead today
01:30 BingoBoingo Bush I really should have just blessed Bin Laded keeping occupied with Saddam.
01:31 mircea_popescu o yeah, and of the ~50bn spent on reconstruction (1% of total, or 10x the benefits) pretty much nothing of any use was built.
01:31 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that'd have required people with something other than cotton between their ears living and breathing in washington
01:31 mircea_popescu however, with fuckwits a la kerry, rice or clinton...
01:33 BingoBoingo It's still satisfying to say 9/11 was HW's fault
01:34 mircea_popescu idont see how it'd be.
01:35 BingoBoingo He could have Kept Bin Laden busy through the 90's like Reagan did through the 1980's
01:35 mircea_popescu http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5384eff869bedd306fc96e9e-800-/ap53047226600.jpg << dude the white house has a skeletronizer somewhere.
01:36 mircea_popescu look at that man. he went in there all plump and looking 35. a decade later he looks 60
01:36 BingoBoingo I though that was just 6 years of knowing he sucks aged him.
01:36 mircea_popescu maybe.
01:37 mircea_popescu i dunno what can do that to a man, outside of smoking rocks
01:38 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You have to realize everything he does is the near opposite of what you enjoy and consider healthy
01:38 mircea_popescu hm
01:38 mircea_popescu no wonder they can't get talent.
01:38 BingoBoingo Also... who are his daughters dating... That has to age him too.
01:39 mircea_popescu looks like erzsebet bathory's ballet troupe. "send your girl over, we'll suck her blood and leave an empty husk within five years".
01:40 BingoBoingo It happened to W. less so to Clinton because Interns.
01:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 634 @ 0.0008216 = 0.5209 BTC [-]
01:42 BingoBoingo Hard to say if it aged Reagan or if he had a lucid moment after year 2. Cater was afraid of rabbits.
01:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [SF1] 12401 @ 0.00031307 = 3.8824 BTC [-] {6}
01:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00082105 = 7.1431 BTC [-]
01:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7287 @ 0.00082105 = 5.983 BTC [-]
02:00 BingoBoingo fluffypony: Un pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1199460/responsive-documents.pdf
02:04 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
02:04 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 589.51, Best ask: 591.62, Bid-ask spread: 2.11000, Last trade: 592.1, 24 hour volume: 9550.98273248, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 598.225360045
02:04 BingoBoingo %book
02:04 atcbot 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172
02:06 BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mxDSiwqM2nw
02:06 assbot AAA THE F-35 IS A LEMON PIERRE SPREY (RUNAWAY FIGHTER) FIFTH ESTATE EXTENDED INTERVW - YouTube
02:07 BingoBoingo I'd almost venture to say based on Opportunity costs that the F-35 might have been as injurous to the US as Iraq
02:18 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2157505 = 0.863 BTC [+] {2}
02:19 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.215001 = 9.245 BTC [-]
02:20 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2125 = 0.85 BTC [-]
02:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.2112 = 4.224 BTC [-]
02:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.2113 = 3.1695 BTC [+]
02:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21679 @ 0.00082105 = 17.7995 BTC [-]
02:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.20814003 = 2.0814 BTC [-] {3}
02:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3721 @ 0.00082362 = 3.0647 BTC [+]
03:09 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 57 @ 0.06699998 = 3.819 BTC [+] {5}
03:17 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.2014 = 2.2154 BTC [-]
03:27 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.06700125 = 5.3601 BTC [+] {2}
03:29 fluffypony BingoBoingo: it displays really weirdly here
03:30 fluffypony it works, but the text is all fuzzy
03:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7406 @ 0.00082319 = 6.0965 BTC [-]
03:40 fluffypony ;;later tell mircea_popescu Fiverr takes Bitcoin now, well worth making an account - there's so much stupid shit I've used Fiverr for it's well worth it
03:40 gribble The operation succeeded.
03:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00082336 = 18.9373 BTC [+]
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04:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33100 @ 0.00082121 = 27.1821 BTC [-] {2}
04:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00082545 = 25.4239 BTC [+]
04:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45623 @ 0.00082049 = 37.4332 BTC [-] {2}
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04:47 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.0666 = 1.2654 BTC [-] {2}
04:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 28 @ 0.0666 = 1.8648 BTC [-] {2}
04:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00081995 = 19.2688 BTC [-]
04:52 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06646475 = 0.6646 BTC [-]
05:03 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.06514736 = 1.2378 BTC [-] {3}
05:05 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.065 = 0.65 BTC [-]
05:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.065 = 0.845 BTC [-] {3}
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05:35 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06641553 = 0.6642 BTC [+] {2}
05:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00082309 = 9.4655 BTC [+]
05:45 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06500903 = 0.6501 BTC [-] {2}
05:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29700 @ 0.00082022 = 24.3605 BTC [-] {3}
06:08 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.06334622 = 1.7103 BTC [-] {3}
06:10 fluffypony https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms14-031
06:10 assbot Microsoft Security Bulletin MS14-031 - Important
06:10 fluffypony rad.
06:12 davout fluffypony: meh, we're basically back at the time where you could nuke ppl
06:12 fluffypony davout: yeah, WinNuke 2014
06:12 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 123 @ 0.020001 = 2.4601 BTC [-] {2}
06:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10982 @ 0.0008227 = 9.0349 BTC [+]
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06:57 kakobrekla http://vimeo.com/98321051
06:57 assbot BE200 Immersion Test on Vimeo
06:58 kakobrekla lots of bubbling.
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07:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00081968 = 13.1968 BTC [-]
07:16 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.063301 = 0.9495 BTC [-]
07:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20450 @ 0.00081883 = 16.7451 BTC [-] {2}
07:27 pankkake https://www.livebusinesschat.com/smf/index.php?topic=5629.0
07:28 assbot Hidden message on the new sourceforge TrueCrypt site
07:33 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.063301 = 0.6963 BTC [+]
07:40 Mats_cd03 http://ottawacitizen.com/technology/internet/how-did-the-rcmp-crack-blackberrys-security
07:40 assbot How did the RCMP crack BlackBerry’s security? | Ottawa Citizen
07:40 Mats_cd03 '3DES among the best in the world'
07:41 Mats_cd03 with 80 bits of security!!!
07:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31566 @ 0.00081793 = 25.8188 BTC [-] {4}
07:51 Mats_cd03 ;;bc,stats
07:51 gribble Current Blocks: 306303 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 128 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 17 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13307564206.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 13.19275
07:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17913 @ 0.00081789 = 14.6509 BTC [-]
08:04 moiety hurro all
08:06 jurov hi moiety
08:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00081768 = 19.2972 BTC [-] {2}
08:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5396 @ 0.000817 = 4.4085 BTC [-]
08:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44228 @ 0.0008169 = 36.1299 BTC [-] {3}
08:29 moiety how are you jurov? i've not seen you for a wee bit (moving sucks btw)
08:31 moiety !up Cory
08:31 moiety !up ericmuyser
08:42 artifexd moiety: Saw this and thought of you. http://i.imgur.com/isGXwi2.gif
08:45 moiety artifexd: omg! thanks for linking me! thats my first manul gif... lol it's brilliant, can't stop chuckling :D
08:46 artifexd yw
08:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00081904 = 17.3636 BTC [+]
08:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19800 @ 0.00082108 = 16.2574 BTC [+] {2}
09:05 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.0008227 = 21.5547 BTC [+]
09:10 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.20201 = 0.606 BTC [-] {2}
09:11 jurov moiety i'm well, afk more often now
09:14 jurov and still learning to manage people and other company/accounting intricacies
09:15 jurov and becoming more lazy than ever lol :D
09:16 Apocalyptic jurov, how many people do you manage out of curiosity ?
09:17 chetty http://naturalsociety.com/europe-bans-american-apples/
09:17 assbot Europe Bans American Apples : Natural Society
09:20 jurov it depends how you define it, maybe 2-3
09:20 jurov they are not employers but freelancers/partners, what makes things worse
09:21 jurov (i guess)
09:21 Apocalyptic jurov, I see
09:21 jurov such as, i asked a designer to improve colours of coinroll logo. he made three variants
09:22 jurov but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay
09:22 jurov so it ended up with this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650783.0
09:22 assbot [POLL] Coinroll Color Scheme
09:22 jurov and wao said, but wait, i ask my friend too
09:22 jurov i was like arghhhhhhh
09:23 chetty it is good tho to practice/learn management on little things
09:23 jurov i should not have allowed such a bikeshed discussion at all
09:24 Apocalyptic chetty, yeah, may come in handy when managing bigger projects
09:24 chetty exactly :) important lesson
09:35 ThickAsThieves New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU
09:35 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
09:37 asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap.
09:38 fluffypony lol
09:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 969 @ 0.0008227 = 0.7972 BTC [+]
09:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00082274 = 3.1519 BTC [+]
09:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.0633 = 1.4559 BTC [+]
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10:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25269 @ 0.00082274 = 20.7898 BTC [+]
10:15 jurov ThickAsThieves: context? what kind of buseness was that aimed to?
10:16 mircea_popescu fluffypony i guess.
10:17 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03: '3DES among the best in the world' lawl.
10:17 mircea_popescu but then what's that scrape when blackberry wouldn't give its keys to some foreign, i don't recall, russia was it ?
10:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78700 @ 0.00082477 = 64.9094 BTC [+] {3}
10:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9136 @ 0.00082294 = 7.5184 BTC [-]
10:18 mircea_popescu jurov: but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay << hey, my vote won!
10:19 kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.0
10:19 assbot DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Containers
10:20 mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU <<< ahgaha what stupid retarded shit is that.
10:20 assbot imgur: the simple image sharer
10:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap. << if it is it'll backfire, ppl get to learn first hand just how harmless btc actually is by telling these folk to stfu / ignoring them
10:23 mircea_popescu "During years of engineering time, we have built a network of partners, resources and contacts in Asia, Europe and the USA." yet the best they could do was still havelock.
10:24 pankkake Our first larger scale immersion cooled cluster consisted of 6048 Xilinx®Spartan-6 FPGAs in 24 tanks and was built in early 2012 with the Bitcoin still below $5.
10:24 pankkake how many coins would that be?
10:24 mircea_popescu "we of course can not offer any documentation to this claim, nor have we learned to gpg yet, because this is all very common of big ticker 2012 miners"
10:24 pankkake also, why would they need to raise funds
10:25 mircea_popescu "we also knew what chips bfl had sanded off in 2013 way back in 2011, which allowed us to beat them to the punch by two years but keep quiet about it"
10:25 mircea_popescu "also bitcoin was under 5 in spite of us secretly doing 140% of network hash on our 6k bfl miners self-delivered early by about 17 months"
10:26 mircea_popescu pankkake how many coins would that be? << the early (only) bfl delivered miners were commercial fpgas, so you know... a lot.
10:27 mircea_popescu i dun recall them actually delivering 5k of the things, they had a limited supply prolly bought off some suprluss deal.
10:28 mircea_popescu "The company will publish financial statements and certified audits frequently to make calculation of operating expenses transparent."
10:28 mircea_popescu idjits ffs.
10:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.0633 = 3.3549 BTC [+]
10:35 los_pantalones this video says "99% electicity saved - Extremely efficient cooling"
10:35 Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.78602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,931.
10:36 los_pantalones i'm no mathemagician, but that seems high
10:36 mike_c ^ wtf? people think marshalls are going to dump the price?
10:36 mike_c ;;ticker
10:36 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.38, Best ask: 599.5, Bid-ask spread: 3.12000, Last trade: 596.38, 24 hour volume: 5611.63210563, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.3, 24 hour vwap: 592.337568602
10:36 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06439287 = 1.2879 BTC [+]
10:37 chetty Obama announces 275 US troops WILL be sent to Iraq to protect American embassy in Baghdad days after saying they would not return = suicide mission
10:37 los_pantalones mike_c i've noticed a lot of people arguing that everyone who buys in the auction is going to sell into the market
10:37 mircea_popescu mike_c more or lesss stable it seems
10:37 mircea_popescu los_pantalones you didn't see people arguing that
10:37 jurov mike_c i don't understand the sentiment, either... rather suspect someone hopes to win the auction and is tryng to dump the price
10:37 mike_c that would be, retarded!
10:37 los_pantalones not here, of course
10:37 mircea_popescu you saw this guy : http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-just-about-everyone-on-the-internet/
10:37 assbot This is just about everyone on the Internet pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
10:38 los_pantalones hahahahah
10:38 mircea_popescu jurov kinda nonsensical. if he dumps the price he gets competition.
10:38 jurov yes.. i got no explanation then.
10:39 mike_c <+mircea_popescu> mike_c more or lesss stable it seems << yeah, that surprises me. i would think it would be sliding towards no instead of staying stable.
10:39 los_pantalones i thought the market should have rallied on the auction news, it wasn't necessarily clear how they would sell the coins
10:39 mircea_popescu how about you know, derps paying voluntary stupid tax (again)
10:39 pankkake can the exchanges even handle 20000 coins? that sounds risky for a quick profit
10:39 jurov but still.. maybe it's the same derp who bought s.dice day after divs were paid
10:39 los_pantalones and i think the process is not bad, chunky sizes to better financed entities
10:39 mircea_popescu pankkake you don't have to use the exchanges. you can just undercut los_pantalones here :D
10:39 los_pantalones mircea_popescu correct
10:39 mircea_popescu i wouldn't worry too much if i were you.
10:40 pankkake ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --vol
10:40 gribble 101.04901102
10:40 mircea_popescu it's not a sale anyway. if anything, it's good news for you.
10:40 pankkake ;;ticker --market bitstamp --vol
10:40 gribble 5602.81348519
10:40 mircea_popescu pankkake whoa shit, they're getting close to the 100 btc cutoff ?!
10:40 pankkake it's daily volume
10:40 mircea_popescu ah ah
10:40 mircea_popescu i was about to say davout got 51 problems and a horse ain't one.
10:42 mike_c jurov: for the record, my retarded comment was about buying the coins to sell, not your theory :) but i agree with mp that I don't think the bitstamp price will have much to do with the auction price.
10:42 mike_c or, if i'm putting words in his mouth, then that's what i think at least.
10:42 mircea_popescu close enough.
10:42 pankkake will the prices be public?
10:42 los_pantalones you have to submit a price on friday, find out if you win monday night
10:42 mircea_popescu how was your father's day btw ?
10:43 los_pantalones pankkake unclear, not much disclosed about what happens when you win
10:43 los_pantalones sorry, if*
10:43 mike_c mine? it was great. left the kid at grandma's and went out with the wife.
10:43 mircea_popescu hahaha score.
10:44 mircea_popescu in unrelated news, my pyjamas have little octopuses on them, my table is an inch of glass, i prop my knee under it while sitting. 3rd fucking thims this morning i had a peripheral vision panic of "WHOA WTF ARE THOSE"
10:45 mircea_popescu http://www.weirdspace.dk/LooneyTunes/Graphics/HeneryHawk.gif
10:46 davout pankkake: "it's daily volume" <<< nothing that a couple 0-fee accounts can't fix anyway
10:46 mircea_popescu o.O
10:47 kakobrekla o cool
10:47 * kakobrekla clicks apply.
10:47 jurov mircea_popescu wears pyjamas? O.o
10:47 mircea_popescu what do you wear
10:47 jurov better go without (unless you fear snakes)
10:47 pankkake not even a pajama suit
10:47 mircea_popescu pankkake no, it's a suit alright.
10:48 mircea_popescu well it doesn't have a vest, but anyway. got pockets and everything
10:49 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7937 @ 0.0000985 = 0.7818 BTC [-] {2}
10:50 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06644663 = 0.5316 BTC [-] {2}
10:50 mircea_popescu http://muscleheadgym.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/i-scared-myself-today/ << i wonder how this guy's post'd look like if a cop had picked him up for gta, and then kept him under key until such a time a translator could establish the woman's not angry at having caught a thief but relieved at having been broken into her car.
10:50 assbot I scared myself today | The Musclehead Gym
10:59 jurov http://bitcoiner.sk/2014/06/09/bitcoin-tetovania-su-v-kurze-pozrite-sa-na-pravych-fanusikov-digitalnej-meny/#.U6BXf6bTbmE omgwtf
10:59 assbot Bitcoin tetovania s v kurze. Pozrite sa na pravch fanikov digitlnej meny.
10:59 mircea_popescu ?
11:00 jurov sample: http://bitcoiner.sk/content/images/2014/Jun/12.jpg
11:02 jurov she prolly forgot the text "insert bitcoins here"
11:02 jurov but dunno if she got crypto capable cunt
11:02 kakobrekla its inset buttcoins in the bck
11:02 kakobrekla insert*
11:03 kakobrekla back
11:03 kakobrekla fuck cmon.
11:04 jurov asciilifeform: what about S.NSA developing btc wallet that can be implanted into dick/cunt with NFC capability?
11:05 jurov ofc, in the butt, too (butt one will be then configured by user to ask more)
11:05 mircea_popescu lolk
11:07 davout jurov: are you fucking crazy?
11:07 davout who would use nfc for a bitcoin wallet??
11:08 pankkake the real issue with his plan is the block size limit
11:08 chetty hmm never actually considered getting a tattoo ....before
11:08 mircea_popescu lmao
11:08 mircea_popescu pankkake it has no cock size limit, you were lied to
11:08 pankkake if it's one tx per entry
11:10 jurov okay, not nfc. it makes more sense using actual electrodes, so physical contact is needed (and environment must be wet)
11:10 mircea_popescu http://www.crocofetish.com/pictures/bdsm/bound-gangbangs/dp-in-submissive-slut-gangbang/11.jpg << doublespend
11:10 davout i can't wait for the triple-entry accounting illustration
11:11 mircea_popescu a'cuntin' ?
11:11 pankkake somehow I feel the last links are NSFW
11:11 mircea_popescu http://files.sharenator.com/They_said_I_could_be_anything_Infinite_Picdump_117-s598x462-311626-580.jpg << here you go.
11:11 mircea_popescu pankkake since when are you employed ?!
11:11 davout lol
11:12 pankkake unfortunately…
11:12 mircea_popescu french employment. where good pr0n is only a lick away
11:12 mircea_popescu +c
11:12 mircea_popescu or w/e
11:13 fluffypony http://www.coindesk.com/multi-sig-bitcoin-wallet-provider-bitgo-raises-12-million/
11:13 assbot Multi-Sig Bitcoin Wallet Provider BitGo Raises $12 Million
11:13 pankkake my last employer was NSFW friendly though
11:13 davout every decent employer is nsfw-friendly
11:14 davout nsfw can also help improve security policies at the office
11:14 pankkake i.e. I was expected to send porn to my "boss"
11:14 pankkake how so?
11:15 davout well, if each time you leave your desk without locking your session you find full-screen gay porn playing upon returning there you start paying attention to locking your session
11:16 jurov davout, that depends :D
11:16 davout lol, i guess it needs to be tailored to the target
11:17 pankkake I am much more paranoid, gay porn is far from something I'd fear
11:17 pankkake I always lock it + 5 min idle lock
11:17 asciilifeform forgot to lock my console once at uni, in dorm. chums walked in, changed display background to a shot of winblows 'me'
11:18 davout asciilifeform: it's much funnier to change the background to a full screen shot, and then hide the icons
11:18 pankkake Windows Meuh
11:18 asciilifeform davout: that's what it was
11:19 asciilifeform jurov: fingerprint locks -> lose yer finger; cock wallet -> lose...
11:19 jurov if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes
11:19 davout jurov: that would work amazingly well if coupled to a buttwallet
11:19 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
11:19 asciilifeform rectumprint.
11:20 asciilifeform sit on a stake scanner.
11:20 asciilifeform no thx
11:20 pankkake well, http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/28/tongue-piercing-disabled-paralysed-magentic-stud-wheelchairs-smartphone
11:20 assbot Tongue piercing helps paralysed patients drive wheelchairs | Society | theguardian.com
11:20 chetty so in Pennsylvania if you don{t log into a bank account for 6 months the state takes it
11:22 pankkake even in France it's 30 years!
11:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33650 @ 0.00082244 = 27.6751 BTC [-] {3}
11:31 mircea_popescu <jurov> davout, that depends :D << lol
11:33 mircea_popescu <jurov> if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything
11:33 mircea_popescu !up jediballs
11:35 chetty http://online.wsj.com/articles/explosion-rips-through-gas-pipeline-in-central-ukraine-1403013593
11:35 assbot Ukraine Gas Pipeline Explosion Won't Affect Supplies to Europe - WSJ
11:35 kakobrekla lol wtf is this
11:35 kakobrekla http://www.coindesk.com/delta-financial-offers-interest-bearing-bitcoin-accounts/
11:35 assbot Delta Financial Offers Interest-Bearing Bitcoin Accounts
11:35 chetty <mircea_popescu> <jurov> if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything<< well your slaves can do it
11:36 mircea_popescu kinda meh
11:36 mircea_popescu kakobrekla people desperate for bitcoin capital
11:36 mircea_popescu it will only get worse.
11:37 kakobrekla ah i get it, the bitfinex model
11:37 kakobrekla i thought pirate was out of jail at first
11:38 mircea_popescu lol
11:38 mircea_popescu on the short term, 2015-2016, it'll be AMAZING what sort of interest people will be able to earn if they don't actually want their bitcoin capital back
11:39 mircea_popescu increasingly more respectable firms will be offering btc denominated savings accounts with a fiat clause as the cheapest most accessible way to get in the game
11:40 mircea_popescu (stuff like "deposit your bitcoin with for 50% per annum!!1" small print "repayable in either bitcoin or fiat at our option")
11:40 mircea_popescu all the "everyone made ROI hand over fist with a 60% btc loss" crowd will be well served.
11:40 jurov ftfy: "repayable at our option"
11:40 mircea_popescu jurov that'll slowly go away.
11:41 mircea_popescu it's cheaper to pay a few % and pretend like you've paid than to not pay at all.
11:41 mircea_popescu the only reason this isn't the rule now is the relative small size of the deals, which makes cluelessness seaworthy
11:41 jurov afaik it was the case with fiat before central banking
11:41 mircea_popescu but even on a market of garr and nasty fucktards, it's slowly emerging
11:41 mircea_popescu something like that yes.
11:42 mircea_popescu early bank paper (banknotes) stoood to gold in a very similar relation. "deposit your gold, we'll pay 5976597985%. in gold. or maybe paper"
11:42 mircea_popescu "it's just as good"
11:44 fluffypony lol - 4chan campaign ends up IRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exc6e3TUBWk
11:44 assbot #EndFathersDay - a Twitter Campaign to End Patriarchy & Oppression - #SingleMothersDay - YouTube
11:45 pankkake paying dividends seems the way to keep investors happy
11:45 pankkake until, of course, well
11:45 pankkake "they pay dividends" is the usual retort to any criticism
11:46 mircea_popescu yeah, it's been through the years the most popular scam. "deposit lump sum, we'll pay you a few %s of it a few times. annuity ftw!"
11:46 mircea_popescu but re the paper conundrum, take this ancient quote : trilema.com/digging-through-archives-yields-gold
11:47 chetty http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/feds-put-signs-telling-cats-stay-away/#axzz34uDAcwHz
11:47 assbot Feds put up signs telling cats to stay away (Psst! Cat's can't read.) | The Libertarian Republic
11:48 mircea_popescu Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil financial network is bigger than the honest financial network, with the result that even though everyone knows what is happening, people continue to use the paper issued by the evil financial network, because of network effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use if you want to do business.
11:48 mircea_popescu Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a “collapse of the total financial system”, as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with “S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005″ but they
11:48 mircea_popescu seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s.
11:48 mircea_popescu The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigger,
11:48 mircea_popescu ore disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks ar
11:48 mircea_popescu guy knew EXACTLY what was going to be going on, back in... 2009.
11:49 mircea_popescu this is also why stomping out us influence in bitcoin is quite so critical for its survival at this juncture.
11:49 mircea_popescu they seem to not wish to submit, so they will have to be killed, pretty much.
11:55 jurov !up chax
11:56 jurov !up chax
11:56 mircea_popescu lol the voiceless!
11:56 fluffypony http://www.coindesk.com/search-ideal-bitcoin-jurisdiction/
11:56 assbot In Search of the Ideal Bitcoin Jurisdiction
12:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.94523860 BTC to 9`095 shares, 21388 satoshi per share
12:00 los_pantalones i always thought UAE would be the best jurisdiction for btc
12:00 los_pantalones they already trade with everyone in the world
12:00 los_pantalones and get stuck with USD
12:02 los_pantalones but "jurisdiction" seems like a pointless word
12:02 los_pantalones for something that operates outside borders
12:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00082518 = 5.1161 BTC [+]
12:06 jurov los_pantalones what's better word for poor schmucks like me that need to get the fiat out somehow?
12:06 los_pantalones out of the country ?
12:07 los_pantalones where you reside ?
12:07 jurov slovankia/eu. but the VAT needs not be such a big problem as the paint it
12:07 jurov *they
12:08 jurov it isn't so much yet it would require offshore solution
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00081947 = 12.5379 BTC [-]
12:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00081861 = 10.1098 BTC [-] {2}
12:20 chetty I dont see tax so much the issue as the bank squeeze
12:20 los_pantalones chetty agreed
12:21 penguirker New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/17/why-its-over-for-litecoin/
12:22 davout did anyone buy the emblematic iranian shoes?
~ 15 minutes ~
12:38 mircea_popescu nope
12:38 mircea_popescu which were those ?
12:40 mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete you know, your litecoin article'd benefit from a lot more reductio ad absurdum and other directly-obvious proofs to displace most of the appeals to authority.
12:40 gribble The operation succeeded.
12:41 mircea_popescu if you say "<<At around US$30/LTC, it’s more affordable to outright purchase too. >> This author, like many a CoinDesker, is of the mistaken belief that buying a whole shitty thing just because you can afford it is better than buying a part of something far superior. Today, you can buy a million satoshis for $6 or you can buy most of the Dogecoin for sale on the market. Incredibly, some people will actually go for the la
12:41 mircea_popescu ense. “Affordability” isn’t what you think it is."
12:41 mircea_popescu you're not helping your reader all that much.
12:42 mircea_popescu if you say "By this logic, it is better to buy half of a pair of boots than a whole car" you are.
12:43 mircea_popescu Right off the bat, we see that Litecoin is pitched at the “average user.” This, of course, is a huge red flag that Litecoin is doomed to failure. Anything aimed at the lowest common denominator must necessarily be shit. <<< like what, like air ?
12:43 mircea_popescu take pussy for instance. pussy is constructed with the average user in mind. it's not shit, that's a different hole.
12:43 mircea_popescu too strong statements put you in the unenviable position that a ready counterexample can be constructed that speaks to what you say, and then your entire argument looks weak, where it needn't.
12:45 davout mircea_popescu: http://persianshoes.com/product/m126/
12:45 assbot M126 | Persian Shoes
12:45 davout their shoes look rad
12:46 davout also they were featured i some tv bitcoin documentary, what decided me to get some was how the iranian shoe maker made fun of the western journalists shoes
12:47 davout handmade shoes for 150 bucks, plus i get to transact with iran
12:47 mircea_popescu i dont see what's so special about them but anyway
12:48 davout i desire them, that's what's special
12:48 mircea_popescu aite then. dealing with iran isn't such a bad thing anyway
12:48 mircea_popescu i recall back in 2012 when i was beating the bushes for sane iranian peoples lol
12:51 jurov terrorist shoes!!1
12:52 jurov !up adrrr
12:53 jurov http://i.imgur.com/IZkEbgI.jpg
12:53 jurov sfw
12:59 mircea_popescu !up edlund10
12:59 edlund10 thanks
12:59 edlund10 http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/
12:59 assbot BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 7 hours | weight: 78`609 (100`000 to 1)
13:00 edlund10 this bet should be already resolved as yes :)
13:00 mircea_popescu leave a comment there then
13:00 edlund10 i left it, but wasn't sure if it's enough
13:04 mircea_popescu !up Dimsler
13:04 Dimsler https://i.imgur.com/cG07rQU.jpg
13:04 Dimsler lol
13:04 Dimsler btc
13:04 Dimsler i can't wait until the first kidnapping for btc occurs
13:05 mircea_popescu i can't wait until people start reading the logs before they think they're being all newsworthy and shit
13:05 mircea_popescu !down Dimsler
13:05 jurov Dimsler,last i heard BingoBoingo arranges one with FARC
13:07 adrrr bitbet odds are so ugly
13:08 mircea_popescu how so
13:10 kakobrekla adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind
13:10 fluffypony ;;later tell moiety I think I found the first cat that can take on a manul: http://i.imgur.com/PZNxrN4.jpg
13:10 gribble The operation succeeded.
13:10 fluffypony kakobrekla: I thought it was the same design committee that did the UI design for apex?
13:10 fluffypony s/apex/mpex
13:11 adrrr kakobrekla: I didn't talk about the design, but the number
13:12 kakobrekla fluffypony there is some intersection for sure.
13:12 kakobrekla adrrr you want the number bigger or smaller?
13:12 kakobrekla i can fix it in the css.
13:13 jurov .odds: {font-family: comic-sans;}
13:13 adrrr no not css or anything. By the way nice website ! I just think the odds are to bad to play. It's just what I think :D
13:13 kakobrekla well
13:14 kakobrekla is bigger one bigger than smaller one or no
13:14 jurov adrr for example this for example had very good odds: http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/
13:14 assbot BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 6 hours | weight: 78`570 (100`000 to 1)
13:15 jurov so what is the problem?
13:15 kakobrekla i guess it depends if its == or ===.
13:15 pankkake just do == || === to be sure
13:15 pankkake unless you want == && ===
13:16 benkay <kakobrekla> adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind // ah i always knew it mircea_popescu is a DAC
13:16 kakobrekla i usually use the shorthand ==(=)
13:16 mircea_popescu lol
13:16 jurov kakobrekla usually uses 100-second minutes
13:16 kakobrekla did you know a day is two nights long
13:16 benkay or .1...but it doesn't matter, you know?
13:17 adrrr anyway this is a good website
13:17 benkay make sure your odds are ======== reality before betting
13:17 adrrr yeah that's it
13:17 pankkake adrrr: yes. I use it more for fun than profit. or at least that's what I tell myself :D
13:17 benkay and your fees are ======= 0
13:18 pankkake 0 rounded up
13:18 benkay yeah hey i mean they're really small numbers
13:19 adrrr sport bet website in bitcoins have bigger number than sport bet normal website. I think this is a good thing for bitcoin cause a lot of gamblers will realize that
13:20 benkay bigger numbers are definitely best numbers
13:20 pankkake no, not bigger. just more numbers
13:20 pankkake adrrr: you might like http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/bitbet-affiliate-ad/
13:20 assbot BitBet Affiliate Ad - Btc Alpha
13:20 adrrr lol I don't understand you, can we say better odds?
13:22 kakobrekla would a smaller or bigger font be better ?
13:22 pankkake !up adrrr
13:22 adrrr that's not a problem of font
13:23 adrrr you're kidding me
13:23 kakobrekla but it would make the number smaller or bigger. :(
13:23 jurov adrrr please say cmplete informatin or example - where do you get better odds?
13:23 jurov if you don't qualify you easily become butt of jokes
13:23 Bet placed: 1.25 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.13602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,558.
13:25 adrrr For example on this bet : 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No
13:25 adrrr When I see that I just don't wanna bet
13:25 davout adrrr: that's because it's pari mutuel
13:25 adrrr I'm gonna try to find an example with goods odds
13:25 davout the way people bet is the way odds are defined
13:26 adrrr oh so I'm a noob lol I didn't saw that
13:26 adrrr It's a good idea !
13:26 adrrr lol
13:27 mircea_popescu lolk
13:27 kakobrekla so we are not changing the css?
13:27 adrrr ahaha
13:28 adrrr everything is fine kakobrekla
13:28 kakobrekla kk!
13:28 mircea_popescu better change it just to be sure (tm)
13:28 adrrr I'll tell you what to do next ;)
13:30 fluffypony kakobrekla: needs more jQuery
13:30 fluffypony and webfonts
13:31 adrrr and responsive design !
13:31 fluffypony yes
13:31 fluffypony and PDF reports
13:31 pankkake responsive is actually a good thing
13:31 pankkake I like to have a narrow browser window and some websites really suck at it
13:31 pankkake I hope you do your math with jquery http://r3dux.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/NotEnoughjQuery.jpg
13:32 benkay you mean the dollar?
13:33 benkay i do all of my ui with the htmldollar
13:33 adrrr the picture is a joke
13:35 fluffypony adrrr: it's serious business
13:35 adrrr no it was just to explain to benkay that this is a joke
13:35 adrrr (the picture)
13:38 Mats_cd03 whoevers behind Unicode 7.0 is challenged
13:39 Mats_cd03 new emoji, read like " cloud with tornado. snow capped mountain. white sun behind cloud."
13:40 Mats_cd03 http://emojipedia.org/new-emoji/
13:41 jurov Mats_cd03 we aren't there yet. apparently there's still "diversity gap": http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2459629,00.asp
13:41 assbot Vulcan Salute, Middle Finger Among 250 New Emojis | News & Opinion | PCMag.com
13:41 jurov "the lineup still doesn't include any African-American characters"
13:42 Mats_cd03 lol what
13:46 fluffypony ;;ud figjam
13:46 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=figjam | Also a song, "FIGJAM (Fuck I'm Good Just Ask Me)" by Butterfingers, an Australian band. Bob: "Ahhh, finished tiling that roof at last..." Alan: "Yeah, FIGJAM!".
13:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00082518 = 18.8141 BTC [+]
13:53 kakobrekla !up adrrr
13:53 kakobrekla ah he gone.
13:54 kakobrekla i was just about to say something.
13:54 kakobrekla o wait
13:56 kakobrekla !up adrrr
13:56 kakobrekla get yourself in the wont if you want to talk
13:56 kakobrekla or wot
13:56 adrrr yep i'm in
13:56 adrrr i was just not logged in
13:57 kakobrekla ;;gettrust assbot adrrr
13:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35752 @ 0.0008247 = 29.4847 BTC [-] {2}
13:57 gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask adrrr!~adrrr@APuteaux-652-1-213-139.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr. Trust relationship from user assbot to user adrrr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=adrrr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=adrrr | Rated since: Thu May 22 05:23:03 2014
13:57 kakobrekla a ok
13:58 FabianB $vwap s.mpoe
13:58 empyex FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00082071 high: 0.0008265 low: 0.00081569 volume: 1300456 btc: 1067.29102587 7 day: average: 0.00082605 high: 0.00086895 low: 0.00081496 volume: 6563631 btc: 5421.87815351 30 day: average: 0.00087011 high: 0.00094991 low: 0.00079351 volume: 26687590 btc: 23221.15595391
13:58 FabianB $vwap s.bbet
13:58 empyex FabianB: S.BBET 1 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 7 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 30 day: average: 0.00048526 high: 0.000525 low: 0.00047 volume: 8347 btc: 4.050485
13:59 kakobrekla 4 btc, almost record volume
14:01 jurov $vwap f.mpif
14:01 empyex jurov: F.MPIF 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.00021705 high: 0.00021726 low: 0.00021536 volume: 95749 btc: 20.78211468
14:01 jurov :(
14:03 jurov okay, if 30day volume will be NaN then it propagates into NAV calculation and all hell will break loose
14:03 jurov *30day price, i mean
14:03 FabianB curious about the next bbet statement
14:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53950 @ 0.00081952 = 44.2131 BTC [-] {2}
14:08 FabianB all worldcup bets should be resolved this period
14:11 mike_c vwap30 if vwap30 else last_sale
14:13 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0699 = 0.699 BTC [+]
14:14 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.02 = 0.7 BTC [+] {2}
14:17 FabianB $traded
14:17 empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.BBET S.MPOE X.EUR
14:25 adrrr mpex.co need a good redesign ^^
14:26 kakobrekla iirc black version existed?
14:27 FabianB still does
14:27 FabianB http://mpex.co/?r=1
14:27 assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
14:27 pankkake uglier than I remember
14:29 kakobrekla dunno why but the thing reminds me of http://gli.tc/h/2112/
14:29 assbot GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++
14:30 pankkake well the white version looks much worse without my base firefox styles: https://i.imgur.com/uCtNgFa.png (except for graph integration)
14:30 kakobrekla lots of fun css files in the dropdown
14:30 mike_c ouch. black version needs to grey the background of the input box. much contrast.
14:30 kakobrekla something like dat should be made for mpex
14:30 kakobrekla for anyone that complains.
14:32 kakobrekla example http://gli.tc/h/2112/index.php?css=8linkli_mrgnhgbyflwrs.css
14:32 assbot GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++
14:41 jurov http://live.coinbr.com/images/mpex-sans-fs8.png totally rocks
14:42 fluffypony yeah agreed jurov
14:42 fluffypony that should be the default
14:43 FabianB [√] empyex commands documented ( http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots )
14:43 assbot irc_bots [bitcoin assets wiki]
14:43 jurov body { background: pink; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; }
14:45 pankkake $proxies
14:45 empyex pankkake: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/
14:45 assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange.
14:45 pankkake $mpexlag
14:45 empyex pankkake: 145 milliseconds
14:45 pankkake $unconfirmed
14:45 empyex pankkake: 1794
14:46 pankkake $avg
14:46 empyex pankkake: 597.67
14:50 FabianB jurov: mpex.coinbr.com down?
14:50 jurov looks so
14:53 jurov lol spot instances for $10/hr? someone gonna cry
14:55 pankkake ;;buy 1 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/
14:55 assbot ThinkGeek :: Firefly Inevitable Betrayal Dinosaurs with Sound
14:55 gribble Error: 'dinos' is not a valid price input.
14:55 FabianB jurov: for coinbr?
14:55 pankkake ;;view 20769
14:55 gribble #20769 Tue Jun 17 14:55:19 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/)
14:56 jurov no,for the proxy... that's why it is down
14:57 FabianB jurov: should i remove it from the list of proxies for now?
14:57 jurov no, i'll relauch it elsewhere in a moment
14:58 FabianB k
15:00 BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/06/17/turkish_media_ban_media_in_turkey_stopped_from_covering_isis_abductions.html
15:00 assbot Turkish media ban: Media in Turkey stopped from covering ISIS abductions.
15:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00082518 = 13.9455 BTC [+]
15:05 thestringpuller $book
15:05 thestringpuller oops
15:05 thestringpuller $depth MPOE
15:05 empyex thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SFsBrGeQ
15:05 thestringpuller grr
15:05 thestringpuller $ticker MPOE
15:05 thestringpuller $help
15:05 empyex thestringpuller: Commands: '$avg' '$conference' '$depth' '$depth <mpsic>' '$email' '$help' '$moo' '$mpexlag' '$post <pastebin-url-with-signcrypted-mpex-command>' '$proxies' '$traded' '$unconfirmed' '$vwap' '$vwap <mpsic>'
15:06 thestringpuller $moo
15:06 empyex thestringpuller: It's starting to sound like Wal-Mart in here.
15:07 mod6 did that one just replace pympex?
15:07 mod6 err mpexbot?
15:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00082554 = 21.464 BTC [+] {2}
15:16 jurov mod6 no, just supplements it
15:18 FabianB mod6: mpexbot yes
15:18 mod6 ahh.
15:19 FabianB thestringpuller: the mpsic is S.MPOE
15:19 FabianB $depth s.mpoe
15:19 empyex FabianB: [S.MPOE] Bids: 12750 @ 0.00082518 23135 @ 0.00082292 12291 @ 0.00082269 27100 @ 0.00081885
15:19 empyex FabianB: [S.MPOE] Asks: 3185 @ 0.00082558 14052 @ 0.00082650 40100 @ 0.00082715 31438 @ 0.00082725
15:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00082356 = 34.9189 BTC [-] {3}
15:24 FabianB hmm.. thinking if i should let empyex tell thestringpuller to get the mpsics right instead of letting it default to raw depth
15:24 pankkake it should kick you everytime you make an error
15:26 FabianB lol
15:26 FabianB i guess that would be more assbot's style
15:26 jurov it should do bait
15:40 Bet created: "Petamine at over .08 per share before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/946/
15:45 Bet created: "World Cup 2014: At least one red card issued during the final" http://bitbet.us/bet/947/
15:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29977 @ 0.0008245 = 24.716 BTC [+] {2}
15:52 BingoBoingo ;;ticker
15:52 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.3, Best ask: 597.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 595.85, 24 hour volume: 4787.75305818, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.0, 24 hour vwap: 592.934258693
15:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14052 @ 0.0008265 = 11.614 BTC [+]
15:55 BingoBoingo %book
15:55 atcbot 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172
16:03 Bet created: "World Cup 2014: Brazil to win" http://bitbet.us/bet/948/
16:17 bitcoinpete ;;later tell mircea_popescu thanks for the tips! i made a few amendments at those points.
16:17 gribble The operation succeeded.
16:18 BingoBoingo http://valleywag.gawker.com/gym-bags-full-of-cash-is-a-great-metaphor-for-celebrity-1591996703/+laceydonohue
16:18 assbot Gym Bags Full of Cash Is a Great Metaphor for Celebrity Tech Investing
16:24 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.20000004 = 1.2 BTC [-] {2}
16:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4078 @ 0.00082654 = 3.3706 BTC [+]
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17:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.000827 = 4.8793 BTC [+]
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18:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2493 @ 0.00082654 = 2.0606 BTC [-]
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18:31 benkay !up gabriel_laddel
18:31 kakobrekla gl benkay
18:31 kakobrekla !up gabriel_laddel
18:31 kakobrekla ha
18:32 kakobrekla how many asseters does it take to up gabriel_laddel
18:32 benkay what is even state
18:32 gabriel_laddel monads
18:32 * kakobrekla gets off the fail train
18:37 jurov http://animals.io9.com/why-are-these-bears-having-oral-sex-1590980883
18:37 assbot Why Are These Bears Having Oral Sex?
18:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30050 @ 0.0008254 = 24.8033 BTC [-] {2}
18:51 mircea_popescu o hey nice find
18:52 mircea_popescu so only mammals that like fruits are cocksuckers ?
18:55 BingoBoingo ;;tslb
18:55 gribble Time since last block: 13 minutes and 47 seconds
18:57 mircea_popescu lol all the mpex css modders!
18:58 mircea_popescu jurov: it should do bait << it should do mp approved bait.
18:58 mircea_popescu want a list of tumblrs ?
18:59 jurov FabianB: ^
18:59 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.201 = 0.603 BTC [-]
19:00 mircea_popescu so i took fluffypony's advice and hired a coupla dozen fiverr kids. since pretty much the only thing they seem to be able to do that's useful is put up/distribute flyers on their campus, im having a coupla dozen do that
19:01 mircea_popescu curious what exactly comes out of this
19:01 BingoBoingo Nice, what campuses are these?
19:01 mircea_popescu i dunno, mostly us
19:01 BingoBoingo Ah, just wondering if I might stumble into any this week
19:03 BingoBoingo %ticker
19:03 atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 143 Ask: 235 Last Price: 150 24h-Vol: 3k High: 180 Low: 150 VWAP: 153
19:04 Naphex "Andreas Antonopolous delivers a stunning presentation of crypto currency to a virtual room full of knowledge seeking students."
19:04 Naphex who writes these titles o.o
19:04 BingoBoingo %book
19:04 atcbot 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 49k@143 175k@142 34k@140
19:05 jurov ;;ticker
19:05 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 605.98, Best ask: 607.49, Bid-ask spread: 1.51000, Last trade: 607.49, 24 hour volume: 6175.46701712, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.703307988
19:06 mircea_popescu o look who's back
19:06 Naphex i got back a while ago, but mostly just sitting and idling
19:07 jurov !up dR3buttnix
19:07 mircea_popescu makes two of us lol
19:07 Naphex trying to lax a bit before getting multicurrency live
19:07 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i vaguely remember chicago something or the other.
19:08 BingoBoingo I'm not headed that far north soon, but I'll keep a look out.
19:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00082545 = 3.3843 BTC [+]
19:14 penguirker New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/bitcoin-upward-trend-a-prediction-for-legs-4-5/
19:21 penguirker New blog post: http://devilsadvocate.biz/litecoins-swan-song/
19:26 asciilifeform i get up for one day into meatspace, and back - and now 'rentacoder' is back from the dead?! or what is that 'fiver' thing
19:28 mircea_popescu asciilifeform rentabonger.
19:28 asciilifeform ;;ud bonger
19:28 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bonger | Upload a picture of bonger. 2. bongers. greatest last name granted to a person. Usually resides in a man cave, playing madden. Very fun name to say. Ladies ...
19:28 TheNewDeal bc,stats
19:29 mike_c mircea_popescu: flyers promoting what?
19:30 mircea_popescu mike_c i'd show you but i'm ashamed
19:30 mircea_popescu it's a pdf
19:30 asciilifeform shame or not, there still exists no universal replacement for pdf (unless you count postscript)
19:30 mike_c ooh, now I'm the curious one.
19:31 mike_c it's for your band isn't it?
19:31 mircea_popescu mnope
19:31 mircea_popescu ok ok here we go :
19:32 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/flyer.pdf
19:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you don't count post script, because you're dealing with random college kids.
19:33 mike_c hm, that is interesting. seems like it will be difficult to measure the effect.
19:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: your students hablan inglés ?
19:34 TheNewDeal los estudiantes
19:34 mircea_popescu mike_c buy some kids a beer. what effect do you expect ?
19:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform which you mean ?
19:34 asciilifeform the locals
19:34 mircea_popescu it's fiverr not cinqueeee
19:34 asciilifeform (presumably meatspace flyer ?)
19:34 asciilifeform aha
19:36 mike_c well, effects would be: 1) do they do the work (maybe they have to send you a pic?) 2) does anyone read it
19:37 mike_c i spend too much time trying to figure out which 50% of advertising works.
19:37 mthreat pearl necklaces hah
19:37 mircea_popescu mike_c in general i find us kids can be more or less trusted to go through the motions / respect the formal parts of the spec
19:38 TheNewDeal Bitcoins foremost educational resource
19:38 TheNewDeal love it
19:38 mircea_popescu they don't usually do anything useful, but it's never for lack of pretending like they tried.
19:38 mircea_popescu TheNewDeal i had something similar in romanian a few years ago
19:38 mircea_popescu it drove people NUTS
19:38 TheNewDeal hahaha
19:39 mircea_popescu they'd have like beer parties dedicated to discussing just how fucking just not done such deeds are.
19:39 TheNewDeal like Nikola Tesla nuts or Timothy McVeigh nuts?
19:40 mircea_popescu like angry german kid nuts
19:40 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [-]
19:40 mircea_popescu or w/e, reddit nuts
19:40 TheNewDeal ewww
19:41 mircea_popescu ;;ticker
19:41 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 603.31, Best ask: 606.71, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 604.58, 24 hour volume: 6255.76911036, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.88, 24 hour vwap: 595.9930859
19:42 BingoBoingo !jd mpif
19:42 assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 170.86463072 BTC; -0.23519938 BTC (-0.1375%) since last check 1d 2h 59m 48s ago.
19:42 BingoBoingo Needs moar klye
19:42 mircea_popescu totally.
19:50 Mats_cd03 i can't tell if you're trying to bait college feminists into marketing trilema
19:50 Mats_cd03 or just being yourself.
19:52 TheNewDeal what if he is accomplishing both at the same time
19:53 TheNewDeal insert Neo meme
20:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7450 @ 0.00082407 = 6.1393 BTC [-]
20:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00082407 = 20.0249 BTC [-]
20:15 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 right ?
20:17 mircea_popescu btw moiety_ http://trilema.com/2011/pisicute/
20:17 assbot Pisicute pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
20:24 moiety_ mircea_popescu: they are so tiny! so cute, but they need some biscuits
20:24 moiety_ are they yours?
20:24 moiety_ googles not translating well for me D;
20:25 moiety_ perhaps mine are just fat cats
20:28 assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.06700542 = 0.7371 BTC [+] {2}
20:29 moiety ffs freenode
20:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27366 @ 0.00082545 = 22.5893 BTC [+]
20:31 Mats_cd03 for future reference, the no poo pills i was referring to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loperamide
20:31 assbot Loperamide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
20:32 asciilifeform Mats_cd03: interesting case of the kind of thinking that gave us, e.g. DXM
20:33 Mats_cd03 i may have used it a few times to punish a thief in the office
20:33 asciilifeform Mats_cd03: 'let's take a drug that's been known for 5,000 years, but is too much fun; nip at the structure a bit until we have a - anti-diarrheal, cough suppressant, etc. that's almost as good as opium.'
20:33 Mats_cd03 thats p much how rx research works no?
20:33 Mats_cd03 brute force all of the things. see what works, rinse, repeat.
20:34 asciilifeform Mats_cd03: not necessarily - where in nature do you find, e.g. ssri
20:34 asciilifeform talking about the goal, vs. the process
20:34 Mats_cd03 o
20:34 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: SSRI came from... Benadryl!
20:34 asciilifeform sure.
20:34 asciilifeform dxm, loperamide, etc. solve what might be called 'fiat problems'
20:35 Mats_cd03 after 1 no pill a day for 4 days during a field exercise, i was literally full of shit
20:35 penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/
20:35 Mats_cd03 i used a scale...my poop was 4.6 pounds
20:35 asciilifeform in both examples, ordinary opium is the champ
20:36 asciilifeform interestingly, sometimes the pharma folks fail: they spent some years trying to cough up a dopamine reuptake inhibitor that doesn't reduce to a synthetic cocaine, and, afaik, gave up
20:37 asciilifeform 1) pick a problem 2) ban solution 3) ??? 4) profit!
20:40 asciilifeform this is why the 'optimize for patentability' process is an inevitable crock of shit. when the scamz0rs can't enclose the commons - they torch them.
20:40 moiety is it just me or does the trilema header change more frequently these days?
20:43 mike_c the latter.
20:44 mike_c Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale.
20:44 moiety thanks mike_c
20:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9341 @ 0.00082545 = 7.7105 BTC [+]
20:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4159 @ 0.00082669 = 3.4382 BTC [+]
20:46 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: They founf a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor in Bupropion. Note the substitution that was made... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion
20:46 assbot Bupropion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
20:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: so weak as to be almost useless.
20:46 BingoBoingo (The interesting part is the picture... check the ring)
20:47 asciilifeform which is the way usg likes it.
20:47 Mats_cd03 mike_c: har har
20:47 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not useless, just... dangerous in actually useful amounts.
20:47 asciilifeform ~= useless.
20:49 moiety i get the kitten post now. good work mircea_popescu lol you need to source some ar ones.
20:51 asciilifeform btc folks who expect to 'can have problems' from daring to demonetize the dollar should contemplate gedankenexperiment - what'd happen to a nation that 'demonetizes'... cocaine. (that is, establishes dirt-cheap production & distribution.) if your starfish doesn't quiver at the thought of the 'problems you can have' then...
20:51 moiety bupropion is given rarely here as an antidepressant but more as an anti smoking thing, as its not licensed in the same was as in the us
20:51 moiety way*
20:51 asciilifeform learn how alchemists were treated back when influential folks thought that alchemy might work
20:55 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the basic idea behind the 'antidepressant' market is at least as mistaken as the phlogiston theory. so what kind of result can be expected.
20:56 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Of course, well at least it has been since MOAIs fell to the wayside.
20:57 BingoBoingo ;;google new nardil sucks
20:57 gribble Old Nardil Vs. New Nardil - Emsam and other MAOIs - Crazy Talk ...: <http://www.crazymeds.us/CrazyTalk/index.php/topic/5897-old-nardil-vs-new-nardil/>; Nardil and Dry Mouth - Depression: <http://depression.emedtv.com/nardil/nardil-and-dry-mouth.html>; Drug Ratings for NARDIL - Ask a Patient: (1 more message)
20:57 BingoBoingo Seems drugs can have problems too
20:57 BingoBoingo moiety: Here Bupropion is used frequently when people discover aspects of the SSRI side effect profile.
20:58 asciilifeform e.g. impotence
20:58 BingoBoingo impotence, inability to orgasm,... the full set is rather large
20:59 asciilifeform the basic formula of antidepressant market: 1) http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-06-2014#722631 2) side effects are a gift from the gods: 10 side effects - 10 kinds of pill you can now sell.
20:59 assbot #bitcoin-assets log
20:59 asciilifeform i've met folks taking 5+ psych meds, mostly against... each other
21:01 mircea_popescu moiety those were babies
21:01 BingoBoingo It's usually how things work
21:01 * asciilifeform notes similarity to the software 'industry'
21:01 moiety i had a patient that was on so many conflicting medications his liver was shutting down. every time i saw him, he was thinner and felt worse and they just wouldn't do anything. i'm worried what happened to him since i left
21:02 BingoBoingo The only significant problem with MAOIs was they prevented selling the patient other drugs... at least drugs that aren't amphetamines
21:02 mircea_popescu <mike_c> Mats_cd03: hopefully you weighed yourself before and after and didn't pile your shit on some poor scale. << freezer bags ftw
21:02 assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2TGGQA7.txt )
21:02 BingoBoingo !b 1
21:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform << i don't see it. columbia.
21:03 Mats_cd03 dafuq am i going to do with freezer bags
21:03 asciilifeform columbia << not a military giant who can make the 'demonetization' stick globally.
21:04 asciilifeform a la brits/opium/19th-c.
21:04 moiety they have started bowel screening here for the 50+. you get cardboard sticks and instructions to shit on your bagged hand and smear it on a chart with said sticks, which you do over the course of X days and send it off to the GP
21:04 moiety poor postmen
21:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well now that all depends.
21:05 mircea_popescu you can buy cocaine can't you ?
21:05 asciilifeform cocaine demonetization is, of course, gedankenexperiment. nobody interesting is particularly well-positioned to benefit from it, and so it won't happen - just as cardboard full-height replica of eiffel's tower won't happen.
21:06 moiety Mats_cd03: use it like a mit lol
21:07 mircea_popescu fun fact : psychiatrists with child practices occasionally get to see cases of prepubescent kids that anally masturbate with their shit and end up with serious constipation issues
21:07 mircea_popescu apparently it's a thing
21:07 mircea_popescu (documented for centuries etc)
21:07 asciilifeform herr doktor freud
21:08 Mats_cd03 wat
21:08 Mats_cd03 for fucks sake
21:09 mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 welcome to -assets, where you broaden
21:09 mircea_popescu your horizonts.
21:11 asciilifeform (coke is no more difficult to churn out by the gigaton than, e.g. progesterone. do you see it at local pharmacist for a penny a dose? didn't think so. because it is a kind of chemical / international fiat currency. with all of the features that come with such.)
21:11 mircea_popescu notrly. sugar is a better comparison
21:12 mircea_popescu coke is an agro product. and for that matter, quite similar to sugar
21:12 mircea_popescu so your gedanken experiment could well be carried out in a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal.
21:12 mircea_popescu http://www.imperialsugar.com/vintage-imperial-sugar/vintage-commercials
21:12 assbot Vintage Commercials | Imperial Sugar
21:12 asciilifeform could easily become the same kind of 'agro product' as... insulin.
21:12 asciilifeform (bacterium is energetically-cheaper than plowing fields)
21:13 mircea_popescu i wonder.
21:13 mircea_popescu if this were true coke market in the us would be like meth market
21:13 mircea_popescu it's not.
21:13 asciilifeform genetically diddling e-coli is tricky.
21:13 TheNewDeal wait are we talking about Coke or coke
21:13 asciilifeform c
21:14 TheNewDeal I was going to say, Coke is verrry similar to sugar
21:15 TheNewDeal still won't see it for 1 cent at your local whatnot
21:15 mircea_popescu actually coke is very similar to fructose
21:15 asciilifeform coke market in the us would be like meth market << nope. bioreactor (aside from somebody having to jump the hurdle and produce the transgenic critter in the first place) is a considerably more cerebral undertaking than grignard reaction in a garage.
21:16 TheNewDeal fructose is sugar
21:16 TheNewDeal subset
21:17 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you say this on the basis of what.
21:17 asciilifeform a world where coke is the currency and sugar is illegal... an agro product << point of the second (e. coli) gedankenexperiment isn't that the planet needs a gigaton of coke (perhaps it does, but i digress) but would be to profit maximally off the 'demonetization.'
21:17 mircea_popescu people microbrew, god love them.
21:17 asciilifeform which 'this' ?
21:18 mircea_popescu "is a considerably more cerebral"
21:18 asciilifeform aha
21:18 * asciilifeform was involved in a (failed) project to churn out butyrylcholinesterase via transgenics.
21:19 mircea_popescu ya but i mean...
21:19 mircea_popescu before every hick set his garage on fire trying to make meth
21:20 mircea_popescu people thought organic synthesis is a cerebral endeavour
21:20 mircea_popescu now they have a reality show abvout it
21:20 asciilifeform it is again - when the one-step precursors are unavailable
21:20 asciilifeform (the hicks don't start with a bag of carbon, a bottle of water...)
21:20 TheNewDeal or you just have to know people that steal a gigaton of the precursor?
21:21 asciilifeform in this scenario, the 'cerebral' work was done for you - by the folks who built the plant which churns out pseudoephedrine by the gigaton
21:22 mircea_popescu "Current meds: lamotrigine 300mg, topiramate 325mg, buspirone 60mg, protriptyline 60mg, EPA 600mg, methylphenidate 5-10mg, lorazepam 1mg PRN
21:22 mircea_popescu Past meds (likely incomplete): Abilify, clonazepam, desipramine, diazepam, Gabitril, lithium, Neurontin, Paxil, prochlorperazine, Provigil, Prozac, Risperdal, Seroquel, Serzone, Strattera, Trileptal, Zyprexa"
21:22 mircea_popescu poor livers.
21:22 asciilifeform poor cns.
21:22 TheNewDeal who has this list?
21:22 mircea_popescu what cns ?
21:22 TheNewDeal central nervous system
21:22 asciilifeform central nervous
21:23 mircea_popescu http://crazy-meds1.blogspot.com << this guy
21:23 assbot Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection
21:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i know dude. the idea is there's no such thing in there
21:24 asciilifeform lol
21:26 asciilifeform if before dr. mengele got to him - there was - certainly not after.
21:26 TheNewDeal I like this guy alreadh
21:26 asciilifeform (likely that, in the future, folks will view today's medical profession in much the same light we see herr mengele)
21:27 TheNewDeal many currently do
21:27 mircea_popescu medical profession maybe not, but the "mental health" "professionals" definitely.
21:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00082498 = 9.6523 BTC [-]
21:28 asciilifeform by and large, they 'are only following orders' - as described by, e.g. TLP. but still.
21:28 TheNewDeal tlp?
21:29 asciilifeform ;;google the last psychiatrist
21:29 gribble The Last Psychiatrist: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/>; The Last Psychiatrist Archives: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/archives.html>; The Last Psychiatrist: Who Bullies The Bullies?: <http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2014/05/cyberbll.html>
21:29 TheNewDeal gribble quit it with the ">;" crap
21:31 nubbins` can't leave a dangling <
21:31 BingoBoingo http://crazy-meds1.blogspot.com << this guy << His pre-CNS collapse occupation if you read deep enough, Big Iron Programmer.
21:31 assbot Batshit Crazy & Medicated for your Protection
21:33 nubbins` makes sense
21:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform people hung for just following orders at nurnberg
21:33 mircea_popescu one day people will hang for just following orders in what once was washington, dc, too.
21:33 asciilifeform aye.
21:33 nubbins` more for following the wrong ones
21:33 mircea_popescu exactly.
21:34 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that's right.
21:34 nubbins` which is why one should avoid being placed in situations where one can be easily ordered
21:34 mircea_popescu just like turing.
21:34 mircea_popescu nubbins` naive copout that. you're always ordered.
21:34 mircea_popescu the only solution is to pick a good sovereign and stick to it.
21:35 nubbins` or rather, where the enforcing of said ordering is a common occurrence
21:35 asciilifeform 'you commit atrocities with the sovereign you have, not the sovereign you wish you had.' (apologies to mr bush)
21:35 nubbins` unfortunately, picking a good sovereign likely requires you to pass through the hands of the worst sovereign of them all (int'l border control)
21:36 mircea_popescu maybe
21:37 asciilifeform good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal
21:38 mircea_popescu ;;google "is a source of immense satisfaction to me"
21:38 gribble Use immense in a sentence | immense sentence examples: <http://sentence.yourdictionary.com/immense>; It gives me immense pleasure to inform all the members and ...: <http://www.b-u.ac.in/bu-icai/syllabus.pdf>; Immense | Define Immense at Dictionary.com: <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immense>
21:39 mircea_popescu check it out, google has managed to erase history. the only winner of nurenberg doesn't exist in the brave new world.
21:39 asciilifeform lol
21:39 Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, are you ordered too ?
21:39 mircea_popescu no, i'm an asshole.
21:41 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> good sovereign << a cryptozoological animal << this reduces to saying there's nothing to live for.
21:41 asciilifeform some of us live for the unicorn hunt.
21:41 nubbins` the meat is so tasty
21:42 mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/18/Okapi2.jpg
21:42 asciilifeform even should it be necessary to genetically diddle goats to obtain said beast
21:42 nubbins` i've seen one of those in person
21:42 nubbins` in uh
21:42 nubbins` in mammal
21:42 * nubbins` shrugs uncomfortably
21:43 nubbins` meanwhile, in vancouver: http://i.imgur.com/qKcGpzi.jpg
21:44 TheNewDeal hahaha
21:44 asciilifeform can't dig it up in nature? build. unless we have hands solely to jack off with.
21:44 TheNewDeal most definitely the latter
21:45 asciilifeform dovetails nicely with the discussion of recombinant cocain-excreting e.coli.
21:45 mircea_popescu lol such dude
21:45 TheNewDeal gimme somma dat
21:47 moiety http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/rolf-steiner-cow-gets-stuck-on-roof-in-swiss-alps-4764420/
21:47 assbot Rolf Steiner: Cow gets stuck on roof near Swiss Alps | Metro News
21:47 moiety this cow needs some time in the park
21:49 nubbins` cow chilling park
21:50 BingoBoingo Suggested sidebar link http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/17/ouch-man-slaps-an-opossum-gets-a-handful-of-400-porcupine-quills-4765333/
21:50 assbot Brazilian man slaps an opossum, gets a handful of 400 porcupine quills | Metro News
21:50 asciilifeform philosophy of building with own hands >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji4t6QQn8KM << english translation in 'show more' tab
21:50 assbot - /You are a Man ( ) - YouTube
21:51 moiety oh nubbins`, i watched quite a few films when i was internetless. This is really good: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1242460/ (also shutter island and inception but i think i'm the only one in the world who hadn't seen those yet)
21:51 assbot We Need to Talk About Kevin (2011) - IMDb
21:52 moiety how on earth did that man get the two confused
21:53 Bet created: "Suarez to stay at Liverpool" http://bitbet.us/bet/949/
21:53 TheNewDeal and inception returns to mediocrity after you watch it a couple more times
21:54 TheNewDeal was great the first time, good the second, ...
21:54 moiety i don't understand how anyone could have found it confusing
21:54 TheNewDeal most people are... stupid?
21:54 moiety fair point
21:54 TheNewDeal or lack attention spans that last 120+ minutes
21:54 TheNewDeal some combination
21:55 moiety most people don't watch memento the full way through or complain it doesn't make sense either
21:55 mircea_popescu ;;later tell organofcorti nice site btw
21:55 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:56 mircea_popescu http://organofcorti.blogspot.com << he's like the mike_c of mining
21:56 assbot Neighbourhood Pool Watch
21:57 BingoBoingo And he's been doing it for quite a while
21:57 nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/BxIRSGj.jpg
21:57 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo kinda how one gets good yeah
21:58 TheNewDeal moiety momento was quality
22:02 moiety i thought so too TheNewDeal
22:07 Bet created: "A pool will have at least 51% of the Bitcoin network" http://bitbet.us/bet/950/
22:07 TheNewDeal ridiculous http://kotaku.com/decades-later-someones-discovered-a-new-super-mario-br-1591884544?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
22:07 assbot Decades Later, Someone's Discovered a New Super Mario Bros. Glitch
22:10 TheNewDeal so does that 51% have to occur over a week time period?
22:11 TheNewDeal faack gotta go to sleep
22:14 Bet created: "Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza" http://bitbet.us/bet/951/
22:14 mircea_popescu kakobrekla o look at that, 179:144
22:15 kakobrekla you will never reach my registration date!
22:15 mircea_popescu damn
22:15 mircea_popescu I WAS BUSY THAT MAY DAMNIT
22:16 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
22:16 gribble Current Blocks: 306422 | Current Difficulty: 1.1756551916903952E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 306431 | Next Difficulty In: 9 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 hour, 11 minutes, and 36 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 13448095222.7 | Estimated Percent Change: 14.38809
22:17 mircea_popescu sooo 14 seems certain huh.
22:18 mike_c unless.. http://bitbet.us/bet/871/bitcoin-difficulty-to-fall-in-2014/
22:18 assbot BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty to fall in 2014 :: 1.3 B (62%) on Yes, 0.81 B (38%) on No | closing in 6 months 1 day| weight: 91`228 (100`000 to 1)
22:21 assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.21959695 = 1.5372 BTC [+] {3}
22:24 mircea_popescu yeah i guess.
22:30 BingoBoingo http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/did-la-kings-fans-take-out-lapd-drone-during-stanley-cup-party-135942533.html
22:30 assbot Did LA Kings fans take out LAPD drone during Stanley Cup party? | Puck Daddy - Yahoo Sports
22:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5775 @ 0.00082669 = 4.7741 BTC [+]
22:42 penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/kncminer-expects-ship-20nm-week/
22:44 mike_c hmph. well, maybe 14 is for sure :)
22:46 assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 15000 @ 0.0000985 = 1.4775 BTC [-] {2}
22:57 mircea_popescu knc kinda delivers don't they
22:58 BingoBoingo Often broken and shitty product, but yeah
22:59 asciilifeform miner... delivers << still seems analogous to... if toilet paper were always shipped lightly-used.
23:00 mircea_popescu lol
23:00 cazalla knc bet might just get there heh
23:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8885 @ 0.00082679 = 7.346 BTC [+] {2}
~ 17 minutes ~
23:22 benkay http://nsapwn.com
23:22 assbot NSA Pwnage Calculator
23:24 asciilifeform benkay: related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9OGmaGwoo << translation: 'who is stronger? elephant, or whale?'
23:24 assbot - YouTube
23:37 trinque benkay: that makes me think govt control of BTC is hard to avoid
23:38 Mats_cd03 21:29 <•TheNewDeal> gribble quit it with the ">;" crap << your client sucks, mine parses it correctly
23:41 Mats_cd03 ;;bc,stats
23:41 gribble Current Blocks: 306432 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 2015 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 21 hours, 24 minutes, and 19 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 53850340580.2 | Estimated Percent Change: 300.00015
23:41 Mats_cd03 lol?
23:46 Mats_cd03 ;;math 1.3462^1.04
23:46 gribble Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462^1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin.
23:46 Mats_cd03 ;;math 1.3462**1.04
23:46 gribble Error: The "Math" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "1.3462**1.04" in it. Try "list Math" to see the commands in the "Math" plugin.
23:46 Mats_cd03 fuck you
23:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4664 @ 0.00082725 = 3.8583 BTC [+]
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