00:06 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113286 << explained in the linked document. crying, whining, cowering -> beating. |
00:06 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-22 21:56:48 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113269 << for what precisely did father beat? (rly, for liking maffs?) |
00:09 |
gregorynyssa |
not being good at sports, or not wanting to play sports or do hiking/camping -> mocking and insulting until I cry, followed by beating. |
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00:10 |
gregorynyssa |
they constantly used rough language with me like a basketball-coach. if I break down and cry at any point -> beating. |
00:11 |
gregorynyssa |
they also took personal offense at "eccentric" behavior: not understanding so-called "facial expressions," failing to detect sarcasm. |
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00:14 |
gregorynyssa |
responding to rhetorical questions as if they were normal questions. |
00:18 |
gregorynyssa |
staring at them impassively when they were lecturing me was forbidden. they would find it difficult to continue speaking, and end the lecture. |
00:22 |
gregorynyssa |
must give "nonverbal feedback" like a normal person, whatever that means |
00:22 |
gregorynyssa |
"pouting" was also considered offensive and forbidden, whatever that means |
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00:39 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113283 << exactly. since you are also child of immigrants, you understand the feeling. |
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00:39 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-22 21:55:24 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113266 << they, by all indications (and rather like asciilifeform's parents) were mistaken re: destination -- thought they had landed in 'vhs america' |
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01:46 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113290 >> the removal of sin and racketeering has a non-trivial and objective effect upon the mind. |
01:46 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-22 21:58:44 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113277 << how does getting a new passport fix maffs muscles ? |
01:48 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113288 << neuroleptics. I know not the exact names. in addition to damaging my |
01:48 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-22 21:58:16 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113270 << what sorta drugs? (and did it work?) |
01:49 |
gregorynyssa |
mental functions, they caused changes in some of my beliefs and preferences, but not in a way which satisfied my parents' demands. |
01:51 |
gregorynyssa |
for instance, I lost my aversion to profanity. later when the drugging stopped, I felt my beliefs and preferences snapping back to how they |
01:51 |
gregorynyssa |
were before the drugging. it was the strangest feeling. |
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10:10 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113307 << nfi whether 'same feeling', lol |
10:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-23 00:38:36 gregorynyssa: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-22#1113283 << exactly. since you are also child of immigrants, you understand the feeling. |
10:10 |
asciilifeform |
we moved from a ruin to a soon-to-be ruin, nobody 'defected' |
10:13 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113300 << asciilifeform when small was similarly sent to pingpong. did not luvv it, and will never win any tournaments, but even today can play reasonably fwiw. |
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10:13 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-23 00:08:54 gregorynyssa: not being good at sports, or not wanting to play sports or do hiking/camping -> mocking and insulting until I cry, followed by beating. |
10:15 |
asciilifeform |
imho children oughta be conscripted to sport in some form -- if not even for exercise, but at least to learn to lose gracefully |
10:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113302 << gregorynyssa genuinely blind to facial expressions? ( afaik only possible in stroke victims ) |
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10:18 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-23 00:11:33 gregorynyssa: they also took personal offense at "eccentric" behavior: not understanding so-called "facial expressions," failing to detect sarcasm. |
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18:29 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113319 << ping pong and badminton are nice because they are indoor sports. |
18:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-23 10:12:47 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113300 << asciilifeform when small was similarly sent to pingpong. did not luvv it, and will never win any tournaments, but even today can play reasonably fwiw. |
18:30 |
gregorynyssa |
one thing which I regret about not growing up in China was missing out on ping pong and badminton. |
18:31 |
gregorynyssa |
instead, was forced to play rougher outdoor sports such as basketball and soccer. |
18:37 |
gregorynyssa |
being someone with good grades as a child, I would have loved to fulfil the athletic requirement by just playing ping pong in an air-conditioned room. |
18:39 |
gregorynyssa |
my parents rejected accelerated learning, forbade me from reading books outside of school, wanted me to be smart enough to get into a high-ranking |
18:39 |
gregorynyssa |
university (but no smarter) while also being an athlete. |
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18:41 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113322 << I wouldn't say "blind" to "facial expressions" exactly, because that presupposes their existence. |
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18:41 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-23 10:17:58 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113302 << gregorynyssa genuinely blind to facial expressions? ( afaik only possible in stroke victims ) |
18:44 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113330 << edit: while pouring my spare energy into being an athlete, and not being a Nerd. |
18:44 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-23 18:38:46 gregorynyssa: university (but no smarter) while also being an athlete. |
18:44 |
gregorynyssa |
asciilifeform: I think awareness of, and sensitivity to "facial expressions" and other "nonverbal communication" skyrocketed during the 20th century. |
18:47 |
gregorynyssa |
even today, there are differences between countries. I find that Chinese people are largely "blind" like myself. whereas Chinese who have received |
18:47 |
gregorynyssa |
American education, and Chinese Americans, are aligned with Americans on the issue. |
18:50 |
jonsykkel |
monkys and such facial express al the time |
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18:51 |
jonsykkel |
must have preceeded verbal comunication |
18:52 |
gregorynyssa |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113338 << even presupposing an Evolutionary framework (which I don't) the invention of writing |
18:52 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-23 18:50:26 jonsykkel: monkys and such facial express al the time |
18:52 |
gregorynyssa |
may have suppressed/dampened the "nonverbal communication" faculty, only for that faculty to be re-awakened with the advent of radio and TV. |
18:53 |
gregorynyssa |
this is basically the thesis of Alphabet versus Goddess by Leonard Shlain. |
18:54 |
gregorynyssa |
the professors Leonard Shlain, Marshall McLuhan, and Carrolll Quigley all attest to this 20th century "nonverbal communication" skyrocketing. |
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18:54 |
gregorynyssa |
(I recall that "asciilifeform" does not like Quigley.) |
19:05 |
gregorynyssa |
I still look forward to finishing the rest of the FFA tutorials when mathematics returns to my life. have a nice day, everyone. |
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19:23 |
jonsykkel |
gotta get bak to it as wel |
19:23 |
jonsykkel |
been chillaxing too hard |
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21:25 |
vex |
phf: pest station is on my list of things to do. The way I picture it, when I get around to it, there will be less drunken rants, but in my heart of herst I know it's not true |
21:31 |
vex |
it's interesting to hear that gregor is blind to facial expressions. dude has amazing ability disscecting written lang. kinda makes sense. |
21:34 |
mats |
facial expression perception is cultural |
21:34 |
mats |
what an enormous wall of whinging |
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21:58 |
vex |
nature or nurture? |
22:07 |
vex |
are you aware that you're whinging about whinging? I can never really get a fix on mats soh |
22:15 |
vex |
I'll rely on my own |
22:18 |
vex |
maybe we play ping pong one day mats, you'll laugh. i'm culturally inept |
22:23 |
vex |
blah blah blah.... holdem tournament |
22:25 |
vex |
no fighting, no whinging, money on the table |
22:29 |
vex |
can we shuffle a deck on pestnet? |
22:31 |
vex |
meh still can't solve the problem of collusion |
22:32 |
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vex goes to think |
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23:12 |
vex |
it's a feature. the network will solve for collusion. |
23:13 |
vex |
wanna build a public urinal phf, go make poker, let them have knobs |
23:14 |
vex |
battle test fo sure |
23:17 |
vex |
Or. straight to block discovery |
23:24 |
vex |
maybe if you're legit, you're txs get into the swarming mempool more easily |
23:25 |
vex |
maybe we need another genesis block to test |
23:29 |
vex |
hey stan |
23:32 |
vex |
you know, all this talk of `boring to the readership', it's kinda getting interesting |
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23:34 |
vex |
you did warn of a final departure |
23:36 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4eMyOzD9UI here have some shitty house music |
23:38 |
vex |
nope, connect then read da logs |
23:38 |
vex |
such pest |
23:43 |
vex |
whaddiya move to bermuda with mp or something? |
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23:45 |
vex |
anytime you encounter new skeeters, it always fucks a cunt up |
23:46 |
vex |
#swarmlife |
23:46 |
vex |
seriously, half a mile, it's a new swarm with different asfects |
23:52 |
vex |
i'm with mats. cultural shit is real. network effect |
23:54 |
vex |
can also explain it with chemisitry, but whatever |
23:56 |
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asciilifeform brought up pestron, but nao lulzily not sees peers, not even folx w/ static ip |
23:57 |
vex |
hoo ra |
23:58 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-08-23#1113374 << nah |
23:58 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-08-23 23:43:24 vex: whaddiya move to bermuda with mp or something? |
23:59 |
vex |
afiak bloke is actually dead, we miss his input |
23:59 |
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asciilifeform not resurrected mp, swears |
23:59 |
vex |
lol. we miss the discussions\ |