00:44 |
vex |
did you go to Afghanistan mats? I've seen it from a jetliner window, the place looks epicly ancient |
00:53 |
vex |
asciiliform, do you have evidence of usg moving the price, or is that a synonym for free market fuckery |
01:00 |
vex |
did I read that the scraps from mtgx are finally detting didtrubuted? was that in the logs? |
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01:01 |
asciilifeform |
vex: what wouldja accept as 'evidence' ? |
01:04 |
vex |
dunno, to me it's bltantly evident that a big stack can influence the price |
01:04 |
asciilifeform |
for asciilifeform , e.g. the destruction of (at this point, just about all) non-usg-controlled goxes (e.g. btc-e), the entirely open, as matter of policy, practice of selling ALL confiscated btc, the massive 'sell wall' that materializes whenever exchrate begins to climb, are evidence enuff. |
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01:04 |
asciilifeform |
vex: there's exactly one entity with a ~neverending~ infinitely large stack -- the confiscator bandit. |
01:04 |
vex |
wallet inspector |
01:04 |
asciilifeform |
aha. |
01:05 |
asciilifeform |
vex: and reich not only confiscates, but prints. |
01:05 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-05-05 19:56:14 asciilifeform: it worx because there's a neverending supply of a) dumb shits who see 'paper gold' as == to actual b) greedy shits who want 'leverage' |
01:06 |
asciilifeform |
papercoin. |
01:09 |
vex |
back in the day, all the bc was held by individuals, who are obstensively technically competent |
01:09 |
asciilifeform |
reich also aids in the proliferation of shitcoins (not the least of this aid is the non-prosecution of the perps, who, if they had carried out equiv. fraud using traditional paper, would sit with madoff) -- so as to siphon juice away from btc. |
01:09 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-07 17:51:40 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-07#1050571 << would be quite astonishing, given that ethertardium is usg's de-facto flagship shitcoin |
01:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052661 << at the risk of repeating the obvious -- the roomtemp iq folx have fundamental problems, usg won't need to shoot'em, can cancel their wallmart.welfare.cards any day of the week and they know it. monsantoburgers dun grow on trees (not that iq70 folx necessarily remember how to plant a tree. or that one'd grow in their blightlands if were to be planted..) |
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01:14 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 18:31:28 billymg: the people in red states who hate the feds and want to defend themselves with their rifles |
01:16 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052663 << homo redstateicus aint 'indigenous people'. for that matter, the inhabitants of vodka reservations aint, in the desired sense, either. utterly dependent on the palace for erry necessity of life, large and small. |
01:16 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 18:34:50 billymg: demonstrates that an indigenous people can defend themselves against a much more technically advanced and well funded adversary |
01:16 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-05-24 18:40:16 asciilifeform: 'if you want food, and try to buy it from a farmer, the penalty is death by jaguars. you gotta go to the palace and if you're a good boy, the food dispensary will dispense you your allotted portion of gruel' |
01:17 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052676 << or possibly simply to churn inventory. |
01:17 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 18:51:54 mats: the generous view is that us involvement in afg was for some misguided, overpriced strategic depth, to stymie pakistan and china |
01:17 |
vex |
jaguars are no joke |
01:18 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052680 << usg 'bringing them home' for the obvious coming 'pacifications' in north amer. |
01:18 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 19:04:33 billymg: in that case sounds like the area just ran out of usefulness, in which case hard to chalk it up as a loss |
01:19 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: that was one of my first thoughts as well, aim 'em at the "domestic terrorists" |
01:21 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: from last yr's 'police leaks' -- usg more or less openly gearing for 'counter-insurgency'(tm)(r) on own soil |
01:22 |
billymg |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052698 << i don't think all of them are reddit larpers, i think some are able to grow own food, build own houses, etc. without walmart credit card |
01:22 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 21:10:22 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052661 << at the risk of repeating the obvious -- the roomtemp iq folx have fundamental problems, usg won't need to shoot'em, can cancel their wallmart.welfare.cards any day of the week and they know it. monsantoburgers dun grow on trees (not that iq70 folx necessarily remember how to plant a tree. or that one'd grow in their blightlands if were to b |
01:22 |
asciilifeform |
frustratingly for the folx in charge of this function, the prey animals for this safari so far failed, for the obvious reason, to materialize. |
01:22 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 21:10:22 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052661 << at the risk of repeating the obvious -- the roomtemp iq folx have fundamental problems, usg won't need to shoot'em, can cancel their wallmart.welfare.cards any day of the week and they know it. monsantoburgers dun grow on trees (not that iq70 folx necessarily remember how to plant a tree. or that one'd grow in their blightlands if were to b |
01:23 |
billymg |
and i suspect the types that are especially competent and able to do so talk the least about it online |
01:23 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: all of 20 people, lol, perhaps, on whole continent. these aint about to 'take up arms', they are already quietly living in amish village. |
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01:48 |
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vex is left wondering if he could train a jaguar cub to collect kangaroos for salami |
01:57 |
vex |
wheres the wot manul these days? |
02:02 |
vex |
in the logs right? |
02:06 |
vex |
I kinda take issue with the wot, rating folks with a few bytes |
02:13 |
vex |
I guess it's a pretty god representaion of huiman nature really |
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02:30 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052685 << >> http://dulap.xyz/pub/mirrors/qntra.net/2018/03/mtgox-coins-getting-dumped-in-waterfall/ |
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02:30 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 20:56:09 vex: did I read that the scraps from mtgx are finally detting didtrubuted? was that in the logs? |
02:30 |
asciilifeform |
( tho there may have been a more recent instance of same ) |
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03:29 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: i gotta ask, if situation is so completely hopeless, what keeps you going? |
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04:02 |
asciilifeform |
which situation, billymg ? |
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04:28 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: i guess e.g. this one for starters |
04:28 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-02 22:08:57 asciilifeform: ok, fluffypony's extradition judgement (txt) is pure gold. rec'd read for erryone tuned in. |
04:31 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: as in, the situation that will lead to all of our eventual hangings |
04:31 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-07-07 18:01:57 asciilifeform: davout: i got 'out of comfort zone', in-person smuggled machines into uy; and prior to that, haggled in ro w/ mp's nut of a lawyer. all it got me was -10btc and 2 moar things that'll be brought up at my usg hanging one day. |
04:32 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqhFwZd1Q6k |
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05:36 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GlFZRXBQyg |
05:40 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGwqbeTLzIM |
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13:30 |
mats |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-16#1052653 if its any consolation, binance and ftx has reduced leverage from 100 to 20x |
13:30 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-16 12:52:42 asciilifeform: looks at chart at randomly-picked gox, finds interesting how blatantly obvious is the work of the 'exch rate fire extinguisher' |
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16:12 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: 'coward dies a thousand deaths, brave man -- just one'(tm)(r) |
16:12 |
asciilifeform |
mats: wouldja say it made a detectable diff. somewhere ? |
16:12 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
16:12 |
watchglass |
Polling 17 nodes... |
16:12 |
watchglass |
84.16.46.130:8333 : Could not connect! |
16:12 |
watchglass |
185.163.46.29:8333 : Could not connect! |
16:12 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=696251 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.085s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=696251 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.121s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.103s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
16:12 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.109s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=696251 (Operator: whaack) |
16:12 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Alive: (0.212s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.219s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.256s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
185.85.38.54:8333 : (tlapnet-38-54.cust.tlapnet.cz) Alive: (0.302s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=689331 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
213.109.238.156:8333 : Alive: (0.381s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 |
16:12 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.595s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 |
16:13 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.014s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=696251 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
16:13 |
watchglass |
176.9.59.199:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length! (Operator: jurov) |
16:14 |
watchglass |
192.151.158.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
16:18 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: but does a brave man also lament constantly how his enemy is all powerful and can never be defeated? i don't see the braveness in admitting defeat, even if "not scared to die" |
16:18 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: i strongly disagree that at any point 'lament'. |
16:19 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: people who study e.g. earthquakes, you could also accuse of 'they say it cannot be defeated' |
16:19 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: that's what i mean, is reich on par with earthquakes in its totality? |
16:21 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: reichs recur historically with regularity, and the moar centralizing the tech stack at the time, the bigger the reich -- and its eventual crater. imho entirely defensible statement of fact. |
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dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 13:11:47 asciilifeform: thimbronion: imho is important to remember that totalitarianism won the war, and in fact 'won' the century, for what imho were fundamental civilizational-stage reasons. |
16:24 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: and indeed must agree that a reich is similar to other natural disasters, in that 'it's over when it exhausts itself' and not earlier. |
16:24 |
billymg |
seems to be to be nearing point of exhaustion |
16:25 |
mats |
asciilifeform: probably not, ftx says less than one percent of volume comes from margin calls |
16:25 |
billymg |
seems to me* |
16:25 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: well, sovok 'neared the point of exhaustion' for nearly half century before finally gave out. |
16:25 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: sovok had US to prop it up. |
16:25 |
mats |
the average margin is 2x |
16:25 |
thimbronion |
I suppose US has China to some extent. |
16:26 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: propped up, lol, with one hand, while pushing down with other |
16:26 |
asciilifeform |
i suppose rather similar to us/china |
16:27 |
mats |
ussr wasnt integrated into the intl economy at all, while the us still is |
16:28 |
asciilifeform |
mats: if by 'intl economy' you, by definition, specify 'rothchild system' then not at all. |
16:28 |
asciilifeform |
mats: if otoh the socblok satellite world and its food, weapons, heavy industry, infrastructure, shipping -- then from korea to cuba to tanzania 'sun never set' on sovok |
16:29 |
mats |
well, us still has some high tech exports that nobody else can reproduce yet |
16:29 |
asciilifeform |
which? winblows? |
16:29 |
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asciilifeform pictures someone wanting to reproduce ~that~ 'success' |
16:30 |
mats |
theres a big list in the last chinese five year plan |
16:30 |
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asciilifeform not read |
16:32 |
asciilifeform |
see, incidentally, also. wouldn't surprise asciilifeform if ~100% of the items on that list resembled 'buran'. and inserted by usg plants. |
16:32 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 14:48:26 asciilifeform: imho it is rather like when su built a ruinously expensive copy of usg 'space shuttle'. (incidentally the roof in the 'indiajones warehouse' housing this artifact, recently caved in, burying the machine + a janitor..) |
16:32 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 14:50:08 asciilifeform: usg traditionally quite good at this technique -- get opponent into a pyramid-building pissing contest |
16:32 |
asciilifeform |
'we must catch up with and outrun!111' |
16:32 |
asciilifeform |
догоним и перегоним америку (tm)(r) |
16:37 |
mats |
https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/t0284_14th_Five_Year_Plan_EN.pdf page 17, 27, 35, etc |
16:37 |
asciilifeform |
mats: ty |
16:39 |
* |
asciilifeform at first look sees e.g. 'AI', 'quantum information', 'reusable space transportation' (lol, literally buranism!!) -- strong flavour of buran. |
16:41 |
asciilifeform |
'We will implement the intellectual property powerhouse (知识产权强国) strategy, implement a strict intellectual property protection system, improve laws and regulations related to intellectual property rights (IPR), and accelerate IP legislation in new fields and new formats. We will strengthen the judicial protection and administrative law enforcement of IP rights, bolster the arbitration, mediation, notarizati |
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16:41 |
asciilifeform |
on, and rights protection assistance systems, bolster the punitive compensation system for IP infringement, and increase compensation for damages.' |
16:41 |
asciilifeform |
lol!! |
16:41 |
asciilifeform |
let's become a great power, just like eltsin's ru !! |
16:45 |
asciilifeform |
'We will accelerate the iterative upgrading of cloud operating systems, promote technological innovations such as ultra–large scale distributed storage, elastic computing, and virtual data isolation, and improve cloud security. ' << ok now thoroughly convinced asciilifeform that the document is exactly same kind of jobsworth-spewed buzzword liquishit as the usg equivalents. |
16:46 |
asciilifeform |
and to the extent said document reflects reality, cn's 'economic miracle' will go exactly like gorbachev's. |
16:46 |
mats |
its a big country, not as if they can do national development exclusively behind closed doors |
16:47 |
asciilifeform |
mats: it's also possible, given where we're reading it, that it was crafted for usg consumption. |
16:47 |
asciilifeform |
and the authors laughed their arses off. |
16:53 |
mats |
there are innovations, like the UHV DC grid system connecting the tibetan plateau and henan |
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17:42 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-17#1052788 << read about case of this recently. there was a prolific Lego "compatible" brick factory that got shut down, stock burned, principals put in jail, etc |
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17:42 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-17 12:37:01 asciilifeform: 'We will implement the intellectual property powerhouse (知识产权强国) strategy, implement a strict intellectual property protection system, improve laws and regulations related to intellectual property rights (IPR), and accelerate IP legislation in new fields and new formats. We will strengthen the judicial protection and administrative law enforcement of IP rights, bolster the arbitration, mediatio |
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18:00 |
cgra |
billymg: i'm a blog noob and i'm experimenting with your mpwp variant. how do you format an article? just hand-crank html, or use some external tool and dump its output to the blog database/edit textbox? |
18:01 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=x39z |
18:01 |
whaack |
^ rack renewl request, sorry for the tardiness |
18:02 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: np! will get back to you later today |
18:11 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
18:11 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $45922.87 |
18:18 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=IGc- |
18:28 |
billymg |
cgra: yup, the input box accepts just about any html (not sure off hand if anything is stripped, i don't believe so) |
18:29 |
billymg |
cgra: recommended way is just markup your post with html directly (i usually draft locally then paste into the box when i'm ready, or almost ready, to publish) |
18:31 |
billymg |
cgra: spyked also wrote added a markdown plugin at some point |
18:31 |
cgra |
billymg: ever run (or expect to eventually) into hand-crank being so much work that a separate tool for the job becomes interesting? |
18:32 |
billymg |
see this post also |
18:33 |
billymg |
cgra: how do you mean? the hand-cranking of adding <p> and <a> tags? |
18:35 |
cgra |
billymg: i'm trying to annotate a patch. talking code and prose intermingled. thought inline styling of code items would be useful |
18:35 |
billymg |
ahhh |
18:36 |
cgra |
and littered with links to patch lines |
18:37 |
billymg |
cgra: yes, in fact there's a built-in feature that handles code formatting (currently only to a limited extent: monospace font, linkable line numbers, and line highlighting for diff syntax) |
18:38 |
billymg |
usage is roughly [plaintext[ ... ]] or [diff[ ... ]] |
18:39 |
billymg |
also requires escaping HTML characters locally before pasting your code in, see this footnote for sed script that does the trick |
18:39 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: your sig failed when running your msg through --verify. I have a hunch it's because you put your "regular" signature as '- -S' |
18:39 |
cgra |
billymg: yeah, i'm meaning to leverage your linkable line numbers heavily! and the colored diff adds clarity nicely |
18:40 |
asciilifeform |
oh hm signpost https://paste.deedbot.org down ? |
18:41 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: argh sorry |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: tried on my end, got 'gpg: Signature made Tue 17 Aug 2021 02:12:09 PM EDT using RSA key ID 01ABFFC7' |
18:41 |
whaack |
your sig is good |
18:41 |
whaack |
i tried to verify the encrypted msg |
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18:41 |
asciilifeform |
a lol |
18:41 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: nm, apparently 'https'ism in 'chrome' on this box ! |
18:42 |
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asciilifeform recalls that somebody reported this 'feature' recently |
18:44 |
billymg |
cgra: glad to hear, is your blog live anywhere yet? and definitely let me know if you run into issues or see things you'd like added |
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18:56 |
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asciilifeform oblig. spam: would be honoured to offer cgra rack service! supposing he doesn't already have. |
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18:58 |
asciilifeform |
re: earlier lulz, apparently Official 'feature' in chrome. |
18:58 |
asciilifeform |
starting from v. 90 |
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23:47 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-17#1052798 << canhaz link ? |
23:47 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-17 13:38:08 punkman: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-17#1052788 << read about case of this recently. there was a prolific Lego "compatible" brick factory that got shut down, stock burned, principals put in jail, etc |