02:31 |
asciilifeform |
phf: imho 'loathesome' does, luckily, come in a spectrum. |
02:32 |
asciilifeform |
phf: incidentally not long ago met (was buying goodies from) machinist who in fact had lathe at home (what precisely made on it -- do not know, but mentioned model aircraft as interest) |
02:35 |
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asciilifeform does not imagine that this is typical, however, of machinists |
02:40 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-28#1104001 << asciilifeform has encountered folx who have (often, msdos) nic-less lappies for writing (human-readable) text on |
02:40 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-28 18:04:47 phf: tbh i was hoping this conversation will go into a deeper jeff rasking/oberon/single use machines kind of direction :) |
02:41 |
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asciilifeform fwiw in fact wrote 1st draft of pest sprec on an 'alphasmart'. little toy wordprocessor which runs on 'aa' batteries and worx in sunlight. |
02:42 |
asciilifeform |
is a pain tho, dunno if will use much again. ( 4ln x 40 character screen, and all of the text had to be remassaged on ordinary comp, unsurprisingly ) |
02:43 |
asciilifeform |
*spec |
02:44 |
asciilifeform |
( see also ) |
02:44 |
dulapbot |
(trilema) 2017-04-17 asciilifeform: 'alphasmart' had a terrible keyboard, similar to late '90s crapple. it was originally made for schoolchildren. but it remains cult classic among certain folx. |
02:45 |
asciilifeform |
these, reportedly, were at one time inflicted on schoolchildren, and often enuff can be had for next to nothing |
02:46 |
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asciilifeform used for the 'sunlight' and 'runs on 1 set of batteries for months' aspect, however, rather than 'not distracts' |
02:48 |
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asciilifeform at one time for this purpose used ancient 'palm pilot' with the add-on kbd |
02:49 |
asciilifeform |
afaik all such devices suffer from similar ills tho -- 'dollar store'-grade kbd, microscopic screens, and, of course, not being emacs (nor a raskin-style ergonomic muscle car) |
02:50 |
asciilifeform |
the 'msdos lappy' approach may work for folx who dun care re sunlight or being far from mains socket. |
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03:36 |
crtdaydreams |
Is there a big enough market for say, a minimal gentoo running on ARM smashed into a thin form factor w/ e-ink display and act primarily as an e-reader but also can plug kbd in and have typewriter |
03:38 |
crtdaydreams |
run e.g. modified zathura and hacked x11 |
03:39 |
crtdaydreams |
have support to ftp/rsync/syncthing etc. files to (and from) boxen |
03:40 |
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crtdaydreams wonders if possible to get eink disp. running at a reasonable enuff refreshrate that "just worx" |
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03:42 |
crtdaydreams |
requires further research |
03:45 |
crtdaydreams |
s/big enough market/enough interest/ |
03:48 |
crtdaydreams |
ouch. 450ms. |
03:52 |
crtdaydreams |
yeah nah, I see what you mean. doubtful that it'll be worthwhile anytime soon |
03:53 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-28#1104069 << having spent considerable dough on various experiments in this direction -- asciilifeform presently satisfied that it aint |
03:53 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-28 23:38:42 crtdaydreams: wonders if possible to get eink disp. running at a reasonable enuff refreshrate that "just worx" |
03:53 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. the much-hyped 'dasung' -- garbage imho |
03:54 |
asciilifeform |
( yes, 'you can play doom' on it. deceptive marketing, tho -- you dun notice liquishit artifacts from failed erasure when playing that doom ) |
03:54 |
asciilifeform |
when static text tho -- will notice. and ugh. |
03:54 |
crtdaydreams |
fr? |
03:55 |
asciilifeform |
hm? |
03:55 |
crtdaydreams |
looking further into it just seems like another gimmick |
03:55 |
crtdaydreams |
fr == for real |
03:55 |
verisimilitude |
Say, asciilifeform and others, consider using Emacs' dabbrev-expand command. I've bound it to S-space. It saves me some effort, on average, I think. |
03:56 |
asciilifeform |
crtdaydreams: 'eink' is currently a monopoly. all the various boxes use more or less same part, in diff. dimensions, afaik |
03:56 |
crtdaydreams |
asciilifeform: evident by the proprietary shitware they call "eink driver" |
03:56 |
verisimilitude |
I should install a foot pedal and bind it to the command. |
03:57 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: i use 'autocomplete' and 'popup' |
03:57 |
crtdaydreams |
verisimilitude: is newspeak zoomer language getting too tedious to decipher? |
03:58 |
asciilifeform |
( bound to tab ) |
03:58 |
verisimilitude |
Yes, crtdaydreams. |
03:58 |
verisimilitude |
I loathe ebonics. |
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03:59 |
crtdaydreams |
lolk I'll try to articulate |
03:59 |
verisimilitude |
Don't try, do. |
03:59 |
crtdaydreams |
verisimilitude: I was about to s/try// |
04:00 |
crtdaydreams |
reminds me of george carlin on soft language |
04:00 |
asciilifeform |
who on what..? |
04:00 |
crtdaydreams |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o25I2fzFGoY |
04:00 |
asciilifeform |
snore |
04:00 |
asciilifeform |
tedious thread |
04:01 |
crtdaydreams |
asciilifeform: rather than snore, protip? |
04:01 |
asciilifeform |
crtdaydreams: expand nonstandard lolcatisms |
04:02 |
asciilifeform |
otherwise e.g. asciilifeform is stuck guessing whether e.g. 'fr' is q re frame rate |
04:02 |
asciilifeform |
or frenchmen |
04:03 |
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asciilifeform doesn't speak 'the king's english' nor demands that others do so, but sometimes puzzled when folx who hail from lolcatistan emit these |
04:04 |
crtdaydreams |
was more rhetorical |
04:05 |
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asciilifeform at any rate will bbl |
04:05 |
crtdaydreams |
eh. I don't normally think/type like that, slip of the mind. |
04:05 |
crtdaydreams |
not quite freudian. |
04:06 |
verisimilitude |
I'm here as I'm elsewhere. |
04:17 |
phf |
thread 😂😂😂 no cap fr fr |
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04:18 |
crtdaydreams |
phf: aha! a fluent! |
04:19 |
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crtdaydreams got 3 boxes, wonders if they're pregenant men |
04:22 |
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crtdaydreams will continue shenanigans later o/ |
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08:10 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-28#1104091 << Before you say "Ain't nobody got time for dat!" learning ebonics could be a [https://archive.ph/C5ciD] [lucrative gig]. |
08:10 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-28 23:56:23 verisimilitude: I loathe ebonics. |
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08:47 |
verisimilitude |
It amuses me that ``African-American Vernacular English'' is something the average ebonics speaker would have difficulty pronouncing. |
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21:37 |
punkman |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-28#1103995 <<Â having secretary/slave takes care of big chunk of these |
21:37 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-28 17:59:30 phf: and the sop is the opposite-- "switch contexts faster! information super highway at fingertips! oh did you know SOMEBODY TAGGED you on INSTAFACE" etc. |
21:40 |
punkman |
and a general habit of avoiding "notifications". |
21:49 |
verisimilitude |
A computer is supposed to be a slave. |
21:49 |
verisimilitude |
Unfortunately, human slaves still work better for now. |
21:54 |
punkman |
"sit quietly in room alone and jam that twitter feed straight into my veins baby" |
22:07 |
punkman |
we are addicted to consuming shockingly vast amounts of information |
22:08 |
vex |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-27#1103905 what's the topic? anything I might be interested in? |
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22:08 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-05-27 05:11:38 crtdaydreams: vex: I should pop by i'm out your way, should be around there july for a conference in brisy |
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22:40 |
vex |
I was thinking of going to europe for the summer, but maybe a couple of schooners in the pig'n'whistle is a better option.. what with ww3 kicking off and everything |
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23:43 |
vex |
shkreli got out |
23:46 |
verisimilitude |
It's not all bad, punkman. |
23:46 |
verisimilitude |
I've learned so much due to the Internet. |
23:46 |
verisimilitude |
I learned of the Latin book I'm reading through the Internet. |
23:51 |
vex |
I share your distain for amazon verisimilitude, makes me wonder if you're an antipodean too |
23:57 |
vex |
$50 book, plus shipping and handling, that'll be $230 please sir, expect your book in an unkown number of months and or years |
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