#asciilifeform | 2022-05-17

hence assumed iron multiplier, divider, etc

02:20

sorta like if you took mips and jettisoned the non-orthogonal crapolade.

02:20

Logged on 2022-02-01 21:35:09 asciilifeform: fond of mips , w/ exception of the liquishit instrs w/ unaligned byte and 'halfword' access; fuck unaligned loads.

02:22

demanding iron ÷ / × make the thing ~impossible to fit in e.g. ice40 tho. (not even speaking of 'make from 74xxx in junkyard').

02:22

( not even speaking here of 'why not a lisp cpu' etc )

02:23

tho fwiw e.g. 'scheme83' asciilifeform suspects would readily fit in ice40 or similar tight space.

~ 12 hours 25 minutes ~

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$ticker btc usd

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busybot

Current BTC price in USD: $29978.52

14:49

!w poll

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Polling 15 nodes...

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71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.118s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=736709 (Operator: asciilifeform)

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75.106.222.93:8333 : Could not connect!

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205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)

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143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)

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205.134.172.6:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)

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15:50

apropos fantasy machines, going to mention https://100r.co/site/uxn.html which already has a small following, because cool kids know how to make it look sexy

15:51

phf: nifty. reminiscent of 'colourforth'

15:52

has, e.g. hosted repl rom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P2zssQoOLE

15:52

excel kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHby1Nn6Y0k

15:56

so on the left is their sequencer conlang and on the right is a drum machine driven by sequencer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b848OVu4yOk both hosted on vm

15:56

nostalgic 'commodore amiga' graphical flavour. and entirely reasonable forth.

15:58

dos port of uxn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCnZSeaMdvQ

15:59

on turboc 2. a++

16:01

well, and to asciilifeform's particular fetish these guys live on a sailboat full time https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/pino.html

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asciilifeform cured of 'sailboat' but still finds interesting

16:03

the xxiivv wiki is statically generated using some uxn code also

16:05

a++ 'beautiful while small' art object imho.

16:05

Logged on 2022-05-14 11:13:17 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-14#1102450 << indeed interesting. author's 'anti-minimalist' arguments are reminiscent of naggum's imho

16:05

ah there you go, i forgot the details, uxn is cpu, the machine is "varvara" https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/varvara.html

16:06

phf: cursory look does not reveal a nic (or ip stack). i suppose 'haram'

16:09

asciilifeform: last time i talked to them they were trying to figure it out. i think right now the solution is a kind of "stream device" as a general purpose ffi, so e.g. run a machine with a pipe to nc

16:09

slip/ppp!111

16:09

oh that's a cool idea, i might take a stab at it

16:17

was interesting to watch these guys progress from "electron apps are so easy" to "fuck you, it's our own minimal stack"

16:17

waiwat they started with wwwisms?

16:21

apparently some people can reason themselves out of "modern" stack without necessarily being part of curmudgeon communities

16:22

in this case driven by constraints of the whole boat living (hardware dies, electric is limited, etc.)

16:25

"The first version of Ronin was produced in Ensenada, Mexico in 2016 after Rekka's Macbook died (see tools ecosystem) and photoshop became unusable. The first version was designed to work on our Chromebook. Eventually, we'd like to make an uxn port. For the time being, the electron version is the main version." etc.

~ 1 hours 1 minutes ~

17:27

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102731 << apparently possible !

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Logged on 2022-05-17 12:19:23 phf: apparently some people can reason themselves out of "modern" stack without necessarily being part of curmudgeon communities

17:27

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102732 << would expect slow/unreliable net access to be the relevant factor there

17:27

Logged on 2022-05-17 12:20:18 phf: in this case driven by constraints of the whole boat living (hardware dies, electric is limited, etc.)

17:28

( tho afaik most 'boat people' sit in port and on local wireless. perhaps this one actually sailed... )

~ 28 minutes ~

17:57

Here's how that went for me.

~ 18 minutes ~

18:15

verisimilitude: kek

18:16

"<klardotsh> let's take this to hypothetical neutral turf here for a second: imagine I'm the non-anonymous-at-all author of the "I Hate Tall People And Think They're Filth Zine" and show up to a sports bar frequented by a bunch of 6'6" folks wanting to talk football. it's gonna cause a bit of a problem, isn't it? those folks aren't going to feel safe talking about football with me, because I've publicly announced that I, as

18:16

me, think they're filth"

18:18

do they really think like this?

18:19

i imagine the 6'6" guys would just beat his ass in this hypothetical

18:22

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shinohai thinks the world would be a better place if more cans of whoop-ass were opened .....

~ 15 minutes ~

18:38

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102739 << lulzy

18:38

Logged on 2022-05-17 13:55:12 verisimilitude: Here's how that went for me.

18:39

'<nihilazo> uxn is a largely queer and leftist project' << lol

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18:43

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102743 << recall defoe's :

18:43

Logged on 2022-05-17 14:16:23 billymg: do they really think like this?

18:43

'SIR Roger L'Estrange tell us a Story in his Collection of Fables, of the Cock and the Horses. The Cock was gotten to Roost in the Stable, among the Horses, and there be∣ing no Racks, or other Conveniencies for him, it seems, he was forc'd to roost upon the Ground; the Horses jostling about for room, and putting the Cock in danger of his Life, he gives them this grave Advice; Pray Gentlefolks let us stand still, for

18:43

fear we should tread upon one another.'

18:43

( 'shortest way with dissenters'(tm)(r) )

~ 23 minutes ~

19:07

Devine Lu Linvega << name rings a bell, I must have stumbled on his stuff a couple times

19:07

"cool kids"

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guy's been 15 years on youtube -> 3.5k subscribers

19:21

Someone may find this to be interesting.

19:21

"we went through your blog/twitter/tube and found out you said a bad word 5 years ago! you must be purged"

19:21

how is that not harassment

19:22

by their definition

19:22

``<verisimilitude> Regarding ``neuro(a)typicality'', I'm clearly touched in the head, but I'm not asking for any protections.''

19:22

verisimilitude: fwiw asciilifeform also never got x11 on the rk.

19:22

Protections only apply to faggotry, punkman.

19:22

have been using'em 100% headless from day1.

19:23

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102757 << I had same problem with 2-3 arm boards I tried, years ago. was even worse back then

19:23

Logged on 2022-05-17 15:19:27 verisimilitude: Someone may find this to be interesting.

19:23

they all seem to use same undocumented vga, which only (sorta) worx w/ vendor binturds.

19:23

I wanted to use as tv box, so video was a priority

19:24

hypothetically if there were an rk that actually brings out its pcie bus, could plug in an adult card and be done with it. but afaik none (in rk price range, at any rate) do

19:24

Logged on 2022-05-14 11:20:27 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-14#1102469 << buy an e.g. amd wx2100 (~100bux) and be done with it

19:24

``<verisimilitude> I help manage a different IRC server, and rest assured no one is banned for being a homosexual or whatnot.''

19:24

``<Delta> "Not banning someone for being gay" is pretty much the bare minimum and doesn't paint you as well as you think it does.''

19:25

However, banning someone for not being a homosexual is fine, apparently. I wonder why people don't like them. I was basically told I should be tolerant of them, but that it needn't be reciprocated.

19:25

verisimilitude: if you walk into a room/irc/etc and smell these, simply run for the door, there's nuffin to do there

19:26

These humanoids forget that tolerance isn't synonymous with enjoyment.

19:26

'tolerance' is when you gotta ride a crowded train together or whatnot.

19:26

at all other times, why.

19:27

why walk into the heathen pits.

19:27

Well, I didn't know it were a heathen pit at first.

19:27

the troons have gone insane past few years, I don't know how anyone can take them seriously

19:27

you aint gonna 'clean' a heathen pit. not w/out a flamethrower at any rate.

19:27

Tolerance is not killing someone thought to deserve it without further reason.

19:27

the pill is to have own territory, and keep'em out.

19:28

I know asciilifeform.

19:28

I tried to ``branch out'', and still only find myself here.

19:29

I tried to ``branch out'', but the branches had already fallen to the ground into a large faggot.

19:29

is wai e.g. asciilifeform went straight to dulapnet/pest/etc and not to the new fleanode

19:29

Logged on 2021-06-16 13:47:50 shinohai: asciilifeform was right about libera being sjw's I'm already klined for posting pr0n

19:29

!q uptime

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asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 335d 16h 25m

19:29

nearly yr, heh

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asciilifeform must bbl

~ 2 hours 3 minutes ~

21:33

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102748 << this should only be a surprise to an autist like verisimilitude, most things that overlap "artistic" and programming are leftist as fuck, and usually have troons as major contributors. that's a running joke about 9front, but not only

21:33

Logged on 2022-05-17 14:38:05 asciilifeform: '<nihilazo> uxn is a largely queer and leftist project' << lol

21:36

this is also a reason why i don't participate, "walking on eggshells" and all this. i don't usually go to places like that guns blazing, i end up testing the waters though, and on more than one occasion (happened in both uxn and cat-v) get privmsgs from random people going "i wouldn't say shit like that if i were you, these place is activist heavy"

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asciilifeform never 1ce stepped in these piles, posib. because pathologically lazy, 'if they wanted to talk to asciilifeform , they can come to #a'

21:38

I don't get many wandering adventurers yet, asciilifeform.

21:38

Even #lisp on Freenode was like this, phf.

21:38

It wasn't as bad.

21:38

i liked some aspects of both plan9 and uxn, would join to ask questions, but very rapidly discover that it's not worth the effort

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asciilifeform has fond memories of playing with 'plan9' in 2000s

21:39

The artistic venues I use are surprisingly clean of these types.

21:40

oblig vintage thrd

21:40

(trilema) 2018-04-06 phf: asciilifeform: all these projects are plan9 cargo cults, so there's always going to be utf-8

21:40

( and elsewhere )

21:40

(trilema) 2016-09-29 asciilifeform: at one time i took an interest in plan9

~ 44 minutes ~

22:25

i spun up a couple of instances of plan9, long enough to understand their way, and i have to say i hard time finding too many things to object to

22:25

*i had

22:26

i would prefer it to unix

22:35

signpost

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102772 << you're supposed to touch a dick on the way in, like the holy water at catholic church.

22:35

Logged on 2022-05-17 15:23:11 verisimilitude: ``<Delta> "Not banning someone for being gay" is pretty much the bare minimum and doesn't paint you as well as you think it does.''

22:36

shinohai

TOP KEK

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23:06

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-17#1102768 << depending on what you're doing, may be worth to try usb vga box. asciilifeform used for many yrs, eats cpu but if you have cycles to spare is entirely adequate for almost anyffin

23:06

Logged on 2022-05-17 15:21:54 punkman: I wanted to use as tv box, so video was a priority

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(trilema) 2015-01-30 asciilifeform: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/FB_UDL.html << driver

23:07

the 'displaylink' chipset in particular 100% documented and adequately driven in 2.6+ kernels

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