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00:01 phf or by christopher walken
00:10 asciilifeform lol
00:11 asciilifeform mats: turns out they had one against centraurs and men with antigrav rucksacks also...
00:11 asciilifeform *centaurs
00:11 asciilifeform ^ on 'theremin' principle
00:12 asciilifeform interestingly, had self-destruct feature where would short out if carried off
00:14 asciilifeform nifty also imho that 100% analogue.
~ 2 hours 26 minutes ~
02:40 mats oh, like the thing
02:42 mats which gave rise to conspiracy theories around havana syndrome
02:42 asciilifeform mats: recall 'great seal bug' ?
02:42 asciilifeform 'the orig. rfid'
02:43 asciilifeform ... and the modern variant.
02:47 mats i thought it was called ragemaster
02:47 asciilifeform mats: there was long list of various (1 for vga plugs, etc)
02:48 mats can't have this discussion with mentioning michael ossmann https://archive.org/details/nsaplayset-toorcamp2014
02:49 mats sdr hero
02:52 mats without*
~ 32 minutes ~
03:24 vex consumer marine surveillance is getting pretty nifty. can hit a radar target at the horizon and the superzoom flir will bring it up all ~gyro stabilized
03:25 vex if their transponder is on you get a headup of the details
~ 24 minutes ~
03:49 vex in a treed environment, best surveillance is the sounds the critters make
03:51 vex if the wind is right, can hear old goanna on the next hill trying to creep about
03:57 vex why is then that I can never hear the whir of a quadcopter until it's overhead?
04:00 phf that almost sounds like a koan
04:01 vex I guess it does. I figured I just don't have milspec hearing
04:12 vex what about drone dettecting earrings?
04:13 vex like, you've still got to move your head around, but it's a kickstarter
04:24 vex i'm being facetious, inspired by phf's tales of adventure
~ 19 minutes ~
04:44 vex anyone seen BingoBoingo? I get it if he's allergic to the etoh group; bloke's likely kneedeep in bureaucracy
04:49 vex dude's playing on a completely different chessboard to me
04:50 vex this ain't just fainmail
04:53 vex maybe he's just smoking copious amounts on punto rujo
04:54 vex peak bb would be an asset to any b2b arrangement
05:05 vex he puts himself into things fully. not many cunts do that
05:11 vex Here's to hoping it wasn't sadness
05:13 vex maybe he got drunk and left some voicemails. banged up
05:17 vex perhaps he's in mp's guest house in bermuda, smoking fire
~ 52 minutes ~
06:10 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E7rUemfC-A
~ 38 minutes ~
06:49 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK8Sd3km0YI
06:54 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6U3Wq-3jy0 yaunderwater crtdaydreams?
07:05 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-zfSWVqEU0
07:19 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbhJ9c-pFoI you int bin in the swamp yet
07:22 vex for the halfwits: magic fountain is vomiting your brain out
07:22 vex like a pussycat wot ate all the grass
07:28 vex i'm good
07:28 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX5USg8_1gA
07:29 vex he's got the mp eyes
07:36 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWCa3GvbNUE
07:42 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb9F2DT8iEQ
07:47 vex hey kid
07:47 crtdaydreams sup
07:47 crtdaydreams drowned yet?
07:47 vex i told you cunt, i'm up a hill
07:48 crtdaydreams didja? missed the memo.
07:48 vex ipswitch looks kinda wet
07:48 vex rellos okay?
07:48 crtdaydreams yeah, creeks just goin up and down
07:48 crtdaydreams they're up on a hill anyway
07:49 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRZ-jLOrFfk keeps coming atround
07:49 crtdaydreams http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-13#1102238 << this is fantastic
07:49 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-13 02:52:49 vex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6U3Wq-3jy0 yaunderwater crtdaydreams?
07:49 crtdaydreams aw he's from tazzie
07:50 crtdaydreams turns out if you use a hardened kernel, module signing is enabled as a default
07:53 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI
07:58 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMdeg-WKt1U that time the fentayl hit
08:03 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZrnuJ0CeSc
~ 20 minutes ~
08:23 vex meathwile. in sydney
08:24 vex \https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOV5WXISM24 ken done
08:28 vex youtube.com/watch?v=bMdeg-WKt1U 6 litre gtr
08:31 vex punkmn. have you eva seen a texta like that?
08:31 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LGM82uPuvA
08:32 vex ww3 about a snitzel
08:34 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEZOjtrwls also gabriel ladel
08:47 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyJ_HXJLSzw
~ 6 hours 55 minutes ~
15:42 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-12#1102219 << well-worked subj in ww2 lit.
15:42 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-12 23:48:07 vex: in a treed environment, best surveillance is the sounds the critters make
15:43 shinohai I have found the best home defense drone: http://btc.info.gf/uploads/homedefense.png
15:44 asciilifeform 'И тревожно защёлкает птица, Если смерть, если смерть на пути партизан.'(tm)(r)
15:44 asciilifeform shinohai: lol
15:46 shinohai Bonus: it can clean up the sidewalk afterwards!
15:47 * asciilifeform recalls south african autos w/ flamethrower pedal
~ 46 minutes ~
16:33 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
16:33 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $30123.24
16:35 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-12#1102186 << betcha one could bake a signal eater which distinguishes 'authorized' walkers ( by weight, gait ) from enemy
16:35 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-12 12:10:56 signpost: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11744 << has single units. I'll order some.
16:35 asciilifeform possib. even incl. vehicles
~ 16 minutes ~
16:52 asciilifeform signpost: typical vendor of these. seems to provide nuffin beyond 'man or vehicle' output.
~ 16 minutes ~
17:08 mats fun
17:09 mats could just decode tpms data for vehicles
17:13 signpost asciilifeform: I'll have mine whitelist the chaotic walk of the Fremen.
17:16 * signpost read a poast somewhere recently using iirc OpenCV in a game camera.
17:19 signpost mats: would be interesting to collect as many "free" identifiers as possible, yeah.
17:19 signpost curious about this in the context of p2p security mesh. could yield proof that the same car tried to hit multiple homes.
17:20 signpost camera in the right position can surely catch plates.
17:22 * asciilifeform would expect any half-serious thief to use fake (or curtained) plate
17:36 signpost last derps my neighbor caught on camera trying to boost cars were pretty sloppy.
17:37 signpost maybe we'll evolve more respectable thieves.
17:40 mats cat theft is back in style
17:50 asciilifeform cat theft ?
17:51 asciilifeform ( for the skins ?? )
17:53 mats catalytic converters
17:53 mats hehe
17:53 asciilifeform aaa
17:54 asciilifeform asciilifeform's was stolen recently
17:54 asciilifeform apparently platinum up ~2x
17:54 mats local pd suggests with a serious face that people attend local engraving events or install a cage
17:55 asciilifeform engraving?
17:55 * asciilifeform assumed they're melted down in mexico
17:56 signpost yeah, see portland, OR for a preview of total law enforcement capitulation.
17:56 mats engraving a VIN on it
17:56 mats lmao
17:56 asciilifeform mats: that'd only give pause to an official reseller, neh
17:57 signpost but you get to feel like you took every reasonable precaution!
17:57 asciilifeform lol
17:58 mats stupids are even spending budget to pay a local shop to give away first hundred engravings for free
17:58 asciilifeform if the vendors actually gave a damn (and in the correct direction, lol) they could mix e.g. sr-90 in with the platinum. harmless to driver, fry thief who collects over9000, and erryone in the city could easily find where stashed loot
18:04 mats my neighbor had his motorbike stolen from his driveway recently
18:05 mats i wonder it was done
18:06 mats how* i’d love to ride around for a few hours and return a bike with a full tank
18:07 asciilifeform mats: how? 4 strong d00dz and pickup truck, prolly
18:08 mats no, the thief rode away with it on camera
18:09 asciilifeform a
18:09 mats no prizes for guessing his skin color
18:17 mats in market schadenfreude, https://techcrunch.com/2022/05/10/tiger-global-hit-by-17b-hedge-fund-losses-has-nearly-depleted-its-latest-vc-fund
18:18 asciilifeform unrealtedly, modern film of a working psr-1 geophone.
18:18 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-12 17:27:44 asciilifeform: see also well-known american example from vietnam war era.
~ 23 minutes ~
18:41 mats https://www.wired.com/story/terra-luna-collapse epic lehman brothers level failure
18:44 asciilifeform sic semper shitcoinism
18:45 shinohai So many an heros over Luna
18:46 asciilifeform shinohai: link?
18:47 shinohai Peruse their reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/terraluna/
18:48 asciilifeform lol!!
18:49 asciilifeform delish
18:51 mats https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2022/05/13/do-kwon-proposes-restart-of-terra-blockchain-as-ust-luna-plummet amazing
18:52 signpost "crypto speed-running last 200yrs of finance"
18:53 mats hopefully that’s the end of algorithmic stablecoins
18:53 * signpost glad he was dirt poor several times in life. BTC goes to zero, whatever.
18:54 asciilifeform 'only the dead have seen the end of war^H^H^Hshitcoins'
18:54 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
18:54 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $29947.37
18:54 signpost sun still shines. wouldn't be the first time lived out of car, rolled joints on the beach.
18:54 asciilifeform not 0 yet, lol
18:55 signpost sure, and I'm only kidding. not 100% exposed to the thing.
18:55 * asciilifeform disappointed, not yet The Great Cleansing
18:59 verisimilitude I hate assholes who cry impotently about ``amplification attacks''.
18:59 asciilifeform verisimilitude: ponzi imploding is an 'attack' nao ?
19:00 asciilifeform ( there's lulzprecedent, e.g. mavrodi blamed ru gov for 'destroying mmm' by prosecuting him )
19:00 verisimilitude No, I speak of UDP protocols and the like.
19:00 verisimilitude I will create protocols that amplify traffic, and I will ignore these fools.
19:04 mats cool, I guess
19:05 asciilifeform oblig re 'stable' shitcoins etc
19:05 dulapbot Logged on 2021-07-11 16:01:55 asciilifeform: ^ asciilifeform's point, can call an altcoin 'cryptodollar' or even 'cryptogold' or 'cryptouranium' but this does not somehow guarantee that, e.g., there'll be a finite supply of it, that you can transact how you want, or , most importantly, that you will be able to redeem yours for dollar/gold/uranium when you want to
19:06 mats there’s not anything inherently wrong with having a peg
19:06 asciilifeform promisetronic.
19:06 mats fixed rate regimes have historically had a lot of trouble
19:06 asciilifeform scammer is promising a thing physically impossible to deliver
19:07 mats hkma has had a currency board which hasn’t failed in nearly forty years of operation
19:08 * asciilifeform watched 'superpower' currency die with own eyes, watching it again nao, lulz over 'n years without fail' arguments
19:08 dulapbot Logged on 2020-05-05 19:39:14 asciilifeform: thimbronion: i watched ruble die as a boy. suddenly had whole sack full of'em, felt 'rich'. until a little later, when noticed it wouldn't buy even candy bar
19:08 asciilifeform all reichs are '1000 yr' until not.
19:08 signpost afaik can only work as small-scale hawala, like deedbot.
19:09 signpost arguably requires religious zealotry too, lol
19:09 mats mostly because they follow the rules of operating a currency board and have 100% us dollar reserves for issued hkd
19:09 * signpost cared more how allah saw deedbot than benefit of leaving with the bag.
19:09 asciilifeform ^
19:10 mats and in feb reported having in forex reserves 6 times the circulating currency
19:10 mats ar had a currency board in the 90s but they didn’t follow the rules
19:10 asciilifeform mats: curious, when loaf of bread is 10k usd, will say 'hkd not failed, still has 6x reserve' ? (it prolly still will, why wouldn't it)
19:11 mats yes, if the peg doesn’t break
19:11 asciilifeform lolk
19:12 asciilifeform 'lifetime warranty' lol
19:12 mats like talking to a loaf of bread
19:14 * asciilifeform not imagines he could personally cure anyone, incl. mats, of financialism. 'do not look into laser with remaining good eye' traditional lab poster is funny, until you meet folx who looked with remaining good eye. 'medicine is powerless'
19:15 mats hkd survived the 97 asian financial crisis unlike many others because they have more than 100% reserve backing for issued hkd
19:16 signpost http://trilema.com/2014/the-idea-that-bitcoin-is-a-sovereign/ << brings this to mind.
19:16 signpost by way of the fact that these other currency systems require import of a sovereign.
19:17 asciilifeform there's a fundamental philosophical q built in -- what's a promise worth ? ( in particular, a promise from professional liar ? )
19:17 signpost can peg, so long as the system ruling hong kong decrees that peg, and has sufficient clout to back the decree.
19:18 asciilifeform a mtgoxcoin, fwiw, was '100% pegged' to btc reserve which also loudly declared '100%', until wasn't
19:18 mats i get it
19:19 mats but going without credit, which is the first money, is like going around without electricity
19:19 * signpost not even giving deedbot as "see, it can be done". nobody applied a car battery to my balls to test.
19:19 mats i respect and value your trauma asciilifeform
19:20 asciilifeform early electricians also many times bzzpppft before learned how to determine necessary insulator from $voltage
19:20 mats the kids tell me all traumas are equal
19:20 asciilifeform (and discovered reasonably useful insulators)
19:20 verisimilitude So, on one hand, this channel has mats ``if the peg doesn’t break'' and, on the other, this channel has me ``money is evil''.
19:20 signpost verisimilitude: how about that diversity eh?
19:20 verisimilitude Yes.
19:21 asciilifeform verisimilitude: electricity aint evil. it simply dun care whether to conduct via the 2nd wire or via yer arse to ground
19:21 verisimilitude Electricity isn't a fiction.
19:22 asciilifeform aactually...
19:22 dulapbot (trilema) 2018-07-05 asciilifeform: in particular true for radio work, where the 'lumped' (see maxwell thread) approximation taught in uni, is actually a mere toy approximation of physical reality
19:23 verisimilitude I don't know this advanced science, so it has no effect on me. Electricity exists regardless of the model; all money can be is the model.
19:23 * asciilifeform watched folx drop jaw when realized in jr physics that electrons hardly 'move' at all in the sense given in primary school
19:24 asciilifeform verisimilitude: 'what you don't know won't simply hurt you, it will eat you for lunch'(tm)(r)(us air force)
19:24 signpost verisimilitude: bwahaha, the idea that what you do not know has no effect on you is the most succinct statement of what you ought to remedy as can be made.
19:25 verisimilitude Part of that was for effect, but the gist is true. Electricity isn't a fiction just because somewhere some scientists haven't modelled it exactly.
19:25 signpost (somebody make fun of how rambling my charge of this was, or I'll do it)
19:26 verisimilitude What the fuck does it matter to me?
19:26 verisimilitude I use electricity; I clearly needn't understand it to do so.
19:28 verisimilitude Back to the topic, there's nothing to understand about money. It's all fabrication.
19:28 mats ok
19:28 verisimilitude ``Actually, according to this economic rule I made up, I get to fuck you in the mouth now.''
19:28 signpost "the luminiferous aether exists; why the fuck should I understand how it works"
19:29 verisimilitude Hey, signpost, wasn't it observation and not modelling what caused the theory of the ether to go out of style?
19:30 verisimilitude Do a lot of scientists observe anything nowadays, as opposed to only modelling?
19:30 signpost do you understand what's meant by "the map is not the territory"?
19:30 verisimilitude I'm no expert, but isn't this an issue with modern science?
19:30 verisimilitude Yes.
19:30 signpost ok then.
19:38 verisimilitude The map is not the territory, and a concerning amount of them promise buried treasure somewhere.
19:42 signpost maybe that's the useful distinction then, the yield of utility of the fiction.
19:43 verisimilitude Yes, obviously.
19:44 * signpost off to benefit from having deluded a local taco shop by updating a database at their payment processor.
~ 1 hours 36 minutes ~
21:20 phf http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-13#1102288 << my version of this joke http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-12#1102200 might've had too many degrees of indirection to be funny
21:20 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-13 13:11:27 signpost: asciilifeform: I'll have mine whitelist the chaotic walk of the Fremen.
21:20 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-12 19:59:58 phf: or by christopher walken
21:21 phf this one weird trick zoomers hate
~ 1 hours 9 minutes ~
22:30 mats i have no context for who walken is
22:31 mats I guess a period liam neeson
~ 36 minutes ~
23:08 phf mats: he's an american actor, popular in the 80s and 90s, who started his career as a broadway dancer, here's him performing a routine in one of his earliest movies, pennies from heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fElXbJjNJQI
23:10 crtdaydreams good book on this is matter and interactions
23:10 phf later in his career he didn't do much dancing and by early 2000s he was already pretty old, his then contemporary fans weren't too familiar with his broadway background. he randomly appeared in a music clip for fat boy slim's "weapon of choice", where he yet again performed a dance routine, and a juxtaposition of a familiar actor doing something seemingly out of character, and fat boy slim's catchy tune ensured that the track and the
23:10 phf clip stayed in heavy rotation, and to some extent contributed to defining a sound of a whole period
23:10 crtdaydreams http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-13#1102390 <<
23:10 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-13 15:20:23 asciilifeform: aactually...
23:11 shinohai Also mats you gotta see the watch monologue from Pulp Fiction.
23:11 phf well, fat boy slim samples 1980s dune, specifically the phrase "if you walk without rhythm, you want attract the worm" over and over again
23:12 phf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7z57qrZU8
23:13 crtdaydreams phf: have you seen the 2022 installment?
23:13 phf which brought a classic movie to an attention of a newer generation, and somewhat randomly associated christopher walken's name with dune's fremen
23:13 phf TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW
23:15 phf oh right the clip in question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7z57qrZU8
23:17 crtdaydreams http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-05-13#1102426 << this one
23:17 dulapbot Logged on 2022-05-13 19:09:38 shinohai: Also mats you gotta see the watch monologue from Pulp Fiction.
23:19 phf crtdaydreams: no, i probably won't, i might skip-watch it one of these days, but i'm one of those people who doesn't like ugh novel tendencies in actor selection
23:23 crtdaydreams phf: yeah I getcha. particularly with this one the translation isn't very effective
23:24 crtdaydreams i got a few gripes, but I won't spoil it for anyone
23:25 phf also villeneuve is a hack
23:26 phf his sicario was decent, but unimaginative straight to netflix kind of production, and then it only went downhil from there. i e.g. managed to last through about 15 minutes of blade runner 2049
23:27 phf oh man i just learned that he's french canadian, yeah, i'm now so mad, i can't even continue this conversation.
23:29 crtdaydreams LOL
23:33 crtdaydreams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3uBGONllfQ
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