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verisimilitude |
Yes. |
00:01 |
verisimilitude |
Asking for it is the way, actually. |
00:06 |
crtdaydreams |
verisimilitude: funny that. Who'd have thought? |
00:07 |
crtdaydreams |
signpost: could I please have 0xcdd hooked up to the bot's rss feed. Thanks! |
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01:01 |
signpost |
scoopbot belongs to PeterL, and it appears to be gone |
01:01 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-03-14#1084177 |
01:01 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-14 12:28:06 PeterL: I'm thinking I am going to stop scoopbot here and just have it reporting in #pest |
01:07 |
verisimilitude |
It's still active here. |
01:07 |
verisimilitude |
It was within the past two weeks, anyway. |
01:08 |
crtdaydreams |
^ hm. mebbe only unplugged fairly recently. |
01:09 |
crtdaydreams |
It's not a problem anyway. I'm doubtful at this stage anything on there is worth being put on RSS. I have a ways to go extending how I craft my writings. |
01:10 |
crtdaydreams |
Though, PeterL if you'd like to by all means I have no objections. |
01:11 |
crtdaydreams |
atm not quite capturing the essence I'm looking for, but I don't want to hang on to perfectionism in this early stage as it's likely to end up in /dev/null |
01:13 |
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crtdaydreams would like to be on pest before added to scoopbot if at all possible |
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10:41 |
crtdaydreams |
billymg: couple gripes re: gentoo tutorial; no mention of disabling TRIM on NVME and SSD drives, no mention of binding /run, no mention of license masking for e.g. linux-firmware, no mention that linux-firmware is a necessary dep for genkernel and mentioning so before compilation. Not enuff chiptune. |
10:41 |
crtdaydreams |
Other than that, pretty solid. The soystemd blacklist is pretty neato and it's straightforward with the minimum expectation that the reader is competent enough to research things i.e. lilo.conf themselves. If ya wanted to add to it in any other way, mebbe virtualization &&|| reiserfs? Former might be worthy of seperate tutorial though. |
10:43 |
crtdaydreams |
probably not for complete newbs unless up for challenge without usual ``handholding'' |
10:44 |
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crtdaydreams is currently recompiling due to aforementioned linux-firmware dep :< |
10:45 |
crtdaydreams |
that and shit don't boot on my hardware without it, even being desktop |
10:53 |
crtdaydreams |
ah fack. nao boot hang at "Mounting /dev/shm..." |
10:57 |
crtdaydreams |
s/gentoo/cuntoo |
11:12 |
crtdaydreams |
shitbox dun wanna run... it's hanging at usb like last time I tried. |
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15:44 |
billymg |
morning crtdaydreams, thank you for the feedback |
15:45 |
billymg |
what do you mean 'hanging at usb'? maybe i or someone else here can help |
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15:47 |
billymg |
also what are your specs? cpu/mobo? |
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16:08 |
billymg |
crtdaydreams: i also don't believe that linux-firmware is a required dep of genkernel |
16:10 |
billymg |
on my recent htpc build i used genkernel for building the initramfs but never had to install linux-firmware. the only reason i needed it on the thinkpad x1 was for the intel wifi chip |
16:10 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-16 19:32:32 billymg: http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-04-12#1095303 << i actually just spent a couple days last week putting together a gentoo file server / htpc out of some spare parts. was a fun project |
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17:53 |
signpost |
see /etc/genkernel.conf |
17:53 |
signpost |
there's a flag called FIRMWARE in there. |
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19:10 |
verisimilitude |
So, who has the better UDP library between us, asciilifeform? |
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19:39 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: iirc already commented ( asciilifeform prefers his orig.; tho imho snipping the .c glue out is nice, can't actually snip out all of it w/out losing portability, and in fact gnat per se includes over9000 such glues so yer still stuck w/ a c compiler on the box) |
19:39 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-06 12:46:19 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: loox like exactly what you described (i.e. similar to asciilifeform's mmap binding, where imports instead of .c) |
19:43 |
shinohai |
"So who has the better hammer, Lowes or Home Depot?" |
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19:43 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
19:45 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: in other aspects: imho relying on machine's 'htons' etc. for constructing/disasming ip addrs is Wrong Thing, ideally oughta nail these down (if going for the 'throw out unix smell' flavour) |
19:45 |
asciilifeform |
aside from this -- shinohai's hammers. |
19:49 |
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asciilifeform would perk up ears if sumbody wrote e.g. bare metal ip stack where tx/rx udp , rather than 'reinvent bicycle' |
19:49 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-17 14:39:01 asciilifeform: the fundamental proble, mangol , is the ~iron~. e.g. valiant attempts at 'from 0 os' from 2010s no longer function on anyffin you can currently purchase. (or even good % of vintage irons from period) on acct of 'peripheral babel' |
19:52 |
verisimilitude |
I wanted to use Ada facilities for the endian conversions, but couldn't find what to use. |
19:56 |
verisimilitude |
I could've sworn there were an appropriate constant for such, but only found a similar constant which wasn't. |
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22:56 |
signpost |
https://clisp.sourceforge.io/ << "How are you using CLISP? Tell us your story!" |
22:56 |
signpost |
uh, like, to bootstrap sbcl. |
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22:56 |
asciilifeform |
lolyes |
22:57 |
asciilifeform |
oblig |
22:59 |
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asciilifeform still thinks about attempting to revive kyoto common lisp |
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~ 49 minutes ~ |
23:48 |
signpost |
huh, I'd assumed the clisp authors had to be jewish. |
23:48 |
signpost |
took about 5sec to find naggum beating them up for being idiots |
23:55 |
shinohai |
signpost nice naggum link, is surprisingly relevant now as much as ever. :) |