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00:00 vex sheesh, gay bar king in the sire line
00:09 vex maybe not
00:11 verisimilitude https://www.ns.nl/en/travel-information/calamities/sunday-3-april-no-more-ns-trains.html
00:12 verisimilitude Sure, the train scheduler failed, but just think about how the programmer's job was a little bit easier.
00:13 vex bicycle day
00:17 verisimilitude I'd enjoy seeing well-paying programming jobs that include terms such as ``If the software doesn't work, you shall be physically punished.'' and whatnot.
00:18 verisimilitude ``Gee, I can't use that library. I don't want to be whipped again.''
00:19 verisimilitude The CEO will, of course, have an employee who would be whipped in his place.
00:24 vex what happened? someone working from home accidentially borked the trains?
00:27 vex might wanna look at .jp verisimilitude, presumably that's a seppuku
00:34 asciilifeform verisimilitude: theoretically even option of posting a bond (as e.g. plumbers do in civilized world) would be an improvement
00:34 asciilifeform ( tho not as glorious as 'seppukuware' )
00:35 vex even seppuku seems to be less fashionable now
00:35 * asciilifeform aims , if lives longenuff, to make ffa sumthing like seppukuware; or at least to level of 'find bug, get n btc'
00:41 vex i was thinking of Fukushima meltdown, but there's no honor in exiting that fuckup
00:42 vex also carlos ghosn.
00:44 vex shame is eternal
00:49 verisimilitude Even I wouldn't be comfortable with seppukuware.
00:50 verisimilitude I'd be comfortable with others writing it, but not myself.
00:50 verisimilitude Then again, the pay would probably be really good.
00:56 vex how to bong your only parachute?
00:56 vex *bond
01:08 vex in the spirit of honesty, that typo was seen some microseconds before I hit enter
01:12 asciilifeform unlikely that anybody'd write seppukuware for phree imho
01:13 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-03#1092253 << and see also...
01:13 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-03 20:16:18 verisimilitude: I'd enjoy seeing well-paying programming jobs that include terms such as ``If the software doesn't work, you shall be physically punished.'' and whatnot.
01:13 dulapbot Logged on 2021-08-09 13:18:25 asciilifeform: mats: structures collapsing ~2y after construction is something i associate with the time of hammurabi ( 'If a builder builds a house for a man and does not make its construction sound, and the house which he has built collapses and causes the death of the owner of the house, the builder shall be put to death...' ) than current day
~ 27 minutes ~
01:41 vex in witch i realise theres frozen chrries from christmas and i have all the inredients for black forest cake
01:45 vex wait.. jurov, help
01:46 verisimilitude The corporate brainwashing has been going well.
01:53 vex turn the tv off verisimilitude
01:55 verisimilitude Put the bottle down, vex.
01:56 * vex challenges verisimilitude to a cake competition
01:58 verisimilitude I'm not much of a cook.
01:58 vex you'd rather judge?
01:58 vex i can challenge someone else
02:04 phf http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-03#1092246 << looks alright, not a fan of palomino though. kind of pricey for an unremarkable quarter horse, but maybe it's oz prices?
02:04 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-03 19:54:41 vex: hey phf, what do you think of this fella for hacking around on? https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/murray-upper/horses-ponies/quarter-horse-gelding/1293106850
02:05 vex chicks love palominos
02:05 vex he's kinda munted tho
02:06 phf you want long mane for chicks though
02:07 vex right
02:08 phf tbh he looks kind of dull, no vice gentleman probably means he's lazy af
02:08 vex not very pretty
02:08 vex he looks lazy
02:08 phf yeah
02:08 vex i might wanna go uphill quickly
02:09 phf is campdrafting a kind of oz barrel racing?
02:09 vex not sure
02:09 vex we do barrel racin i think. never seen it
02:10 vex there's a trail where you can draft unencumbered
02:13 phf campdraft looks pretty intense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yocvqAaPhU
02:14 phf mr peponita might not be as lazy as he looks
02:15 vex he needs a dog
02:17 vex mats. how to make 7500 this week?
02:17 phf i want an australian cattle dog
02:18 vex do it
02:18 vex best dog eva
02:18 vex incidentally most dangerous dog in .au
02:19 vex very nippy.
02:20 vex statistically bad. actllally good
02:23 phf sounds perfect
~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~
03:29 crtdaydreams http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-03#1092277 << kinda mortifying that someone just a year below me has no concept of sending information across wires
03:29 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-03 21:45:17 verisimilitude: The corporate brainwashing has been going well.
03:30 crtdaydreams though reassuring that they're switched on enough to question the nature of data and whom it's entrusted to
03:33 crtdaydreams i fear though that mindless scrolling will kill of any form of curiosity to further pursue that train of thought
~ 19 minutes ~
03:52 crtdaydreams asciilifeform: been browsing ice40 chips, so far the selection of boards seems to boil down to tinyfpga-bx, fomu and the classic icebreaker. Just wondering what you have and whether or not you think GPIO would be worth it if just learning FPGA?
04:03 crtdaydreams also wondering if worth getting 8K variant over 5K
04:04 * crtdaydreams is inclined to believe moar LUTs == better, but may be very wrong
04:06 vex whats a LUT?
04:07 vex lunch unified time?
04:08 vex get back to work
~ 15 minutes ~
04:24 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZRRAkeQKhA
~ 26 minutes ~
04:50 vex phf, rolling a blue thru the streets, helps to have a pocket plinker
04:50 vex might need to end a pit
04:51 vex blue don't stop
04:54 vex knife works too, but you gotta jump the fence
04:56 vex they appreciate the teamwork
05:05 vex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRIP9_JCGoU
~ 8 hours 23 minutes ~
13:28 PeterL My brother-in-law had a couple australian cattle dogs as a teenager, he said they would routinely catch and kill skunks, never got sprayed because they worked together as a team and were so viscious and killed it so fast
13:28 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-03 22:17:00 phf: i want an australian cattle dog
~ 44 minutes ~
14:12 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-03#1092314 << for n00bs, asciilifeform recs 'icestick', has built-in programmator. moar than sufficient for study, get bigger ones once you've 'graduated'.
14:12 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-03 23:51:43 crtdaydreams: asciilifeform: been browsing ice40 chips, so far the selection of boards seems to boil down to tinyfpga-bx, fomu and the classic icebreaker. Just wondering what you have and whether or not you think GPIO would be worth it if just learning FPGA?
14:14 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-04#1092317 << lookuptable.
14:14 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-04 00:05:21 vex: whats a LUT?
14:15 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
14:15 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $46175.9
14:15 asciilifeform !w poll
14:15 watchglass Polling 15 nodes...
14:15 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:15 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=730404 (Operator: whaack)
14:15 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.204s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.261s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.275s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 (Operator: asciilifeform)
14:15 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.345s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.384s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730184
14:15 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.599s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.431s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404
14:15 watchglass 103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.508s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=417864 (Operator: whaack)
14:17 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
~ 3 hours 12 minutes ~
17:29 asciilifeform !!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/tbf/tbf_q1_2022.txt
17:29 deedbot accepted: 1
17:30 asciilifeform hm typo, s/[3]// but harmless
17:32 asciilifeform ( tldr: no fuel burned in q4 2021 )
17:36 asciilifeform ... and currently no plan to burn any in q1 2022.
17:36 dulapbot Logged on 2021-12-18 11:28:20 asciilifeform: ... problem is, is very difficult to increase the amt of useful work with coin (aside from, hypothetically, jailbreaking ~people~, ideally 2-3 people. but piggy -- or 'sandwich-adjusted' exchrate -- would have to be ~10x bigger to make this plausible)
17:36 asciilifeform err, q2
17:38 asciilifeform !q seen cgra
17:38 dulapbot cgra last seen here on 2022-02-28 12:26:43: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081208 << close enough to ponder whether finland's next, or what was going on again
17:38 asciilifeform !q seen punkman
17:38 dulapbot punkman last seen here on 2022-01-27 09:39:41: I mean "bug"
17:38 asciilifeform !q seen mod6
17:38 dulapbot mod6 last seen here on 2022-01-09 16:47:21: < asciilifeform> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071636 << you may've been the 1st to actually test that knob << sure, ditto the same with whaack's nick.
17:38 asciilifeform !q seen whaack
17:38 dulapbot whaack last seen here on 2022-03-31 10:41:00: asciilifeform: the irc interface means it can be integrated with pest so that upload is limited to pest peers
17:39 asciilifeform !q seen BingoBoingo
17:39 dulapbot BingoBoingo last seen here on 2022-02-28 12:49:43: In the past month US down ~19% versus Brasil's Real, 5.3% versus Peso Uruguay
17:43 * asciilifeform oughta comment re this oddity -- asciilifeform rather skeptical re 'this took two weeks in order to sync the blockchain', given asciilifeform's 'cement' test on 'threadripper', and largely from local noad having taken ~40d.
17:43 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-29 19:56:24 thimbronion: this guy never heard of trb I guess: https://achow101.com/2022/03/syncing-0.5.0
17:43 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-28 09:57:33 asciilifeform: meanwhile, cement testbed synced !
17:43 asciilifeform thimbronion: see if you can get that fella to visit, if you've the cycles
~ 23 minutes ~
18:07 whaack looks like my node in NZ is taking quite a longer time to sync
18:07 asciilifeform whaack: this w/ cement ?
18:08 whaack yes
18:08 whaack !w probe 103.36.92.112
18:08 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.645s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730436
18:08 asciilifeform would be interesting to see debug log
18:08 whaack !c peers 103.36.92.112
18:08 crawlerbot whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, help, net-summary, version, trb-status
18:08 asciilifeform hm loox synced ?
18:09 whaack !w probe 103.6.212.28
18:09 watchglass 103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.526s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=418432
18:09 whaack asciilifeform: probed wrong node, saw '103.' and thought it was mine
18:09 asciilifeform aa
18:10 asciilifeform loox to be most of the way through the cement
18:11 * asciilifeform satisfied in his test that 'waiting for block' time reduced, as one'd expect, to ~0 when cemented
18:11 whaack asciilfeform: well blocks 1-200k have always taken only 1-2 days for me, the gears start grinding at around 350k
18:11 whaack !c trb-status
18:11 crawlerbot 75.106.222.93 (Could not connect!), h=730432, v=99999, United States - peers: 222 - last probed: 7m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 103.36.92.112 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, Singapore - peers: 74 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 54.39.156.171 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, Canada - peers: 63 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 54.38.94.63 (Alive), h=730436, v=88888, France - peers: 60 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 205.134.172.4 (Alive), h=730436, v=70001, United States - peers: 54 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 208.94.240.42 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 49 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 94.176.238.102 (Alive), h=730184, v=99999, Lithuania - peers: 31 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 71.191.220.241 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 27 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 205.134.172.28 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 27 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 82.79.58.192 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, Romania - peers: 26 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 205.134.172.27 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 15 - last probed: 11m ago
18:11 asciilifeform cement won't help w/ db grind in verification; only cuts down the time when 'sitting w/ open mouth'
18:11 crawlerbot 205.134.172.6 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 11 - last probed: 12m ago
18:11 crawlerbot 205.134.172.26 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 10 - last probed: 11m ago
18:12 crawlerbot 103.6.212.28 (Alive), h=418424, v=99999, New Zealand - peers: None - last probed: 7m ago
18:12 whaack billymg: did you manually add my node or did it get picked up by your crawlerbot automatically? I still have no peers for some reason
18:12 billymg whaack: got picked up automatically
18:13 whaack cool, weird it took so long and weird i have No peers, i wonder if somehow that is slowing down my sync, or if it's just normal verification grind
18:14 billymg whaack: for the longest time no other nodes were returning it as a peer (which is currently the only way the crawler can discover a new node). i noticed yesterday that it was finally found and queried to see who had reported it
18:14 bitbot Logged on 2022-04-03 22:47:30 billymg: results from db of nodes returning it as one of their peers: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=sMnv (previously this query returned 0)
18:15 billymg did you ever restart with a series of -addnode flags?
18:16 billymg btw, still a WIP but i've got an updated version of the crawler www running here now: http://dev.bitdash.io/
18:17 billymg mostly just a facelift, but is also responsive now, and displays the time series data. color scheme is auto based on your OS preference (e.g. "dark mode")
18:19 asciilifeform billymg: nifty graphic (tho a bit hard to read on asciilifeform's screen, low contrast imho)
18:20 billymg asciilifeform: i'll add a toggle for the old color scheme, currently only set via OS knob
18:20 asciilifeform billymg: also only seeing 2 lines on the 'participating species' graph rather than 3
18:20 billymg there are three, but due to the scale trb's 14 and trb-compat's ~40 nodes don't represent much against prb's 4k
18:21 billymg both just flat lines along the bottom
18:21 asciilifeform a
18:22 asciilifeform not very useful graph imho then
18:22 billymg it will be once trb nodes go up by two orders of magnitude
18:22 asciilifeform lolyes
18:23 billymg currently, yes, displays the sad state of affairs
18:24 billymg if anyone has suggestions for other network metric's they'd like to see charted lemme know, i'd like to add more
18:24 billymg metrics*
18:35 whaack billymg: no i never restarted the node, may do so soon.
~ 2 hours 18 minutes ~
20:54 asciilifeform meanwhile, in 'internet of the fyootoor'(tm)(r) reich lulz.
20:54 dulapbot Logged on 2022-03-04 15:41:33 asciilifeform: worth noting, there's ftr 4 basic levels of 'great firewall' :
20:55 asciilifeform 'The Bureau of Cyberspace and Digital Policy leads and coordinates the Department’s work on cyberspace and digital diplomacy to encourage responsible state behavior in cyberspace and advance policies that protect the integrity and security of the infrastructure of the Internet, serve U.S. interests, promote competitiveness, and uphold democratic values...'
21:04 verisimilitude My favourite example of ``democratic values'' are the laws which prohibit boycotting Israel to varying degrees.
21:05 verisimilitude Copyright ghettos also come to mind as another shining example of freedom.
21:10 verisimilitude These articles tell me naught, asciilifeform.
21:16 verisimilitude It's amazing how useful command record and playback is. I was unable to automate something in Emacs lately, but still turned it into a one-key command through a keyboard macro.
21:23 verisimilitude Gee, I never read about IBM mainframes failing like this, as if using a giant festering mass of ``consumer-grade'' hardware isn't a stupid fucking idea.
21:33 verisimilitude I find it hard to believe these corporations aren't simply incredibly wasteful with their hardware.
~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~
22:39 asciilifeform spectacularly wasteful on a scale difficult, for those who have not witnesses w/ own eyes, to even imagine
22:39 dulapbot Logged on 2019-12-23 23:18:06 asciilifeform: rather like how the web software stack eats megawatts and gives ui response times folx on the slowest 1970s timesharing systems would have barfed at
22:39 verisimilitude As figured.
22:40 verisimilitude Meanwhile, the limp-wristed faggots complain about Bitcoin instead.
22:40 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-04#1092429 << what's it even export, other than expensive in-patent pharma & similarly expensive small arms ?
22:40 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-04 17:03:08 verisimilitude: My favourite example of ``democratic values'' are the laws which prohibit boycotting Israel to varying degrees.
22:40 * asciilifeform paging adlai
22:40 verisimilitude There's a soda machine, and like items.
22:41 verisimilitude It's the principle that matters.
22:41 asciilifeform rright but difficult to boycott if already not buying, lol
22:43 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-04#1092438 << rather typical 'double standard' practice among reich mouthpieces.
22:43 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-04 18:39:15 verisimilitude: Meanwhile, the limp-wristed faggots complain about Bitcoin instead.
22:43 dulapbot Logged on 2020-12-28 11:53:09 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-28#1027392 << establishment mouthpieces always follow, if not explicitly state, mussolini's 'for us and ours -- everything; for others -- the law'. recall for instance the 'lisp is slow'(tm) folx who carefully set up discussion so that unix load time not counted, but cl runtime's -- is, or pret
22:46 asciilifeform e.g. no whines re 'ecological cost' of arsebook, the various reddits, reich.media, feeding entire continents of fucktards who produce 0 and would be missed nowhere if were sent to /dev/null tonight, etc
22:54 verisimilitude Well gee, I wouldn't mind being on the other side of Mussolini.
22:55 asciilifeform verisimilitude: all modern-day 'law' worx exactly like mussolini's
22:55 verisimilitude I figured a nation dealing with illegal immigration could deal with it by, say, removing from them the lawful protections citizens receive.
22:56 verisimilitude They could have the jobs citizens won't do, like starring in snuff films.
22:56 asciilifeform verisimilitude: observe, exact opposite happens
22:56 verisimilitude Yes, because my rulers aren't like me.
22:57 asciilifeform in eureich, particularly spectacular, e.g. gypsies (formerly) or 'refugees' ('17--present) take over a house, owner has 0 Official recourse
22:57 verisimilitude I don't see Israel having problems like this, and they get to have DNA tests for citizenship as well.
23:00 asciilifeform verisimilitude: they have diff. problems
23:00 asciilifeform ( incl., if you like, over9000 citizens who wouldn't pass whatever dna test )
23:04 verisimilitude Sure, but white people are nazis when they do it.
23:04 * adlai is away: response times vary
23:04 adlai idle: 4 days, 00 hours 22 minutes 29 seconds
23:04 adlai asciilifeform: sup
23:05 asciilifeform wb adlai
23:05 verisimilitude Hello, adlai.
23:05 * adlai glances at scrollback;,. am expected to opine each time my fiat locality is boycotted?
23:05 asciilifeform adlai: what's it export naodays ?
23:06 adlai fwiw, there is a whole science of "how to be a BDS member, without actually harming Israel financially"
23:06 adlai it boils down to tell everybody about BDS, veganism, and archlinux, before somebody else does.
23:06 verisimilitude Expand BDS.
23:06 asciilifeform bondage,discipline,sadomasochism?
23:07 verisimilitude We're not discussing Ada programming.
23:07 asciilifeform lol
23:07 adlai verisimilitude: /medgaf about the acronym, tbh! tl;dr: it's an organisation that boycotts Israeli exports, to harm the zionist government so long as there is an apartheid state.
23:08 adlai e.g., Roger Waters wanted to perform in Israel; then it turned out that folks connected to this organisation got angry, except the tour was already booked, and Roger Waters didn't want to cancel the show and spend two hours lecturing about politics instead of performing
23:09 adlai ... so they moved the location a few clicks away from the center of hi-tech zionism, and pretended the state of israel didn't exist! profit for everybody. probably even paid fewer rents on the equipment.
23:10 adlai my impression of Israeli exports is probably outdated, since I've not warmed chairs in tech park for a while.
23:11 adlai back when I did, it boiled down to: military hardware, to close allies (e.g. India); veterans, unofficially (i.e., expatriates, funded through tourism exchanges); and software-as-a-service of any and everything possible to internetize.
23:12 * adlai never explored the military world beyond small arms, fwiw!
23:13 adlai pretty much had zero contact with artillery after discharge from the mandatory service.
23:14 adlai some folks live in the revolving door, and do nothing other than interferometry and haggling over huge tracts of empty desert for the purposes of testing one thing... and other people pretty much just leave.
23:20 adlai fwiw, pretty much only time anyone ever dangled "problem of too much money" in exchange for "pretend you're a grantwriter", I got silently laughed out of the negotiation for my ideas being too similar to military tech.
23:20 adlai turns out everybody in town is a pacifist!
23:27 adlai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-02#1092215 << in identical topics... I hope I don't have to quote Babbage, because I understand why such dismissal gets expressed.
23:27 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-02 02:23:14 mats: bio or chem warfare is pretty dumb unless you're going to fight in cities, in which case, arty is cheaper
23:27 adlai e.g., 2022-04-02 was quite a quiet day, other than "bio or chem warfare is [useless; artillery better]"
23:28 adlai ... yet the point of unconventional warfare is typically not homogenous across all three components of NBC.
23:28 adlai anyway, ain't gonna talk to myself by keyboard, so long as it costs electricity.
23:30 adlai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-01#1092037 << all along the watchtower?
23:30 dulapbot Logged on 2022-04-01 13:05:07 phf: as far as history, east coast is really weird. there's a lot of usg developed "points of interests" with little plaques in english, chinese and braille. on the other hand the area where i live has churches built in 17xx, my friend's house is early 18th century, but it's all just there, not particularly historically preserved
23:30 adlai [... as opposed to "only in New England"]
23:31 * adlai does share nostalgia for the northern east coast; however, also quite suspicious that returning the adult adlai there will result in the typical "strange, place seems to have shrunk and gone lame" response.
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23:47 billymg asciilifeform: added theme switch knob to footer, it sets a cookie
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