00:00 |
vex |
sheesh, gay bar king in the sire line |
00:09 |
vex |
maybe not |
00:11 |
verisimilitude |
https://www.ns.nl/en/travel-information/calamities/sunday-3-april-no-more-ns-trains.html |
00:12 |
verisimilitude |
Sure, the train scheduler failed, but just think about how the programmer's job was a little bit easier. |
00:13 |
vex |
bicycle day |
00:17 |
verisimilitude |
I'd enjoy seeing well-paying programming jobs that include terms such as ``If the software doesn't work, you shall be physically punished.'' and whatnot. |
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00:18 |
verisimilitude |
``Gee, I can't use that library. I don't want to be whipped again.'' |
00:19 |
verisimilitude |
The CEO will, of course, have an employee who would be whipped in his place. |
00:24 |
vex |
what happened? someone working from home accidentially borked the trains? |
00:27 |
vex |
might wanna look at .jp verisimilitude, presumably that's a seppuku |
00:34 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: theoretically even option of posting a bond (as e.g. plumbers do in civilized world) would be an improvement |
00:34 |
asciilifeform |
( tho not as glorious as 'seppukuware' ) |
00:35 |
vex |
even seppuku seems to be less fashionable now |
00:35 |
* |
asciilifeform aims , if lives longenuff, to make ffa sumthing like seppukuware; or at least to level of 'find bug, get n btc' |
00:41 |
vex |
i was thinking of Fukushima meltdown, but there's no honor in exiting that fuckup |
00:42 |
vex |
also carlos ghosn. |
00:44 |
vex |
shame is eternal |
00:49 |
verisimilitude |
Even I wouldn't be comfortable with seppukuware. |
00:50 |
verisimilitude |
I'd be comfortable with others writing it, but not myself. |
00:50 |
verisimilitude |
Then again, the pay would probably be really good. |
00:56 |
vex |
how to bong your only parachute? |
00:56 |
vex |
*bond |
01:08 |
vex |
in the spirit of honesty, that typo was seen some microseconds before I hit enter |
01:12 |
asciilifeform |
unlikely that anybody'd write seppukuware for phree imho |
01:13 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-03#1092253 << and see also... |
01:13 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-03 20:16:18 verisimilitude: I'd enjoy seeing well-paying programming jobs that include terms such as ``If the software doesn't work, you shall be physically punished.'' and whatnot. |
01:13 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-08-09 13:18:25 asciilifeform: mats: structures collapsing ~2y after construction is something i associate with the time of hammurabi ( 'If a builder builds a house for a man and does not make its construction sound, and the house which he has built collapses and causes the death of the owner of the house, the builder shall be put to death...' ) than current day |
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~ 27 minutes ~ |
01:41 |
vex |
in witch i realise theres frozen chrries from christmas and i have all the inredients for black forest cake |
01:45 |
vex |
wait.. jurov, help |
01:46 |
verisimilitude |
The corporate brainwashing has been going well. |
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01:53 |
vex |
turn the tv off verisimilitude |
01:55 |
verisimilitude |
Put the bottle down, vex. |
01:56 |
* |
vex challenges verisimilitude to a cake competition |
01:58 |
verisimilitude |
I'm not much of a cook. |
01:58 |
vex |
you'd rather judge? |
01:58 |
vex |
i can challenge someone else |
02:04 |
phf |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-03#1092246 << looks alright, not a fan of palomino though. kind of pricey for an unremarkable quarter horse, but maybe it's oz prices? |
02:04 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-03 19:54:41 vex: hey phf, what do you think of this fella for hacking around on? https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/murray-upper/horses-ponies/quarter-horse-gelding/1293106850 |
02:05 |
vex |
chicks love palominos |
02:05 |
vex |
he's kinda munted tho |
02:06 |
phf |
you want long mane for chicks though |
02:07 |
vex |
right |
02:08 |
phf |
tbh he looks kind of dull, no vice gentleman probably means he's lazy af |
02:08 |
vex |
not very pretty |
02:08 |
vex |
he looks lazy |
02:08 |
phf |
yeah |
02:08 |
vex |
i might wanna go uphill quickly |
02:09 |
phf |
is campdrafting a kind of oz barrel racing? |
02:09 |
vex |
not sure |
02:09 |
vex |
we do barrel racin i think. never seen it |
02:10 |
vex |
there's a trail where you can draft unencumbered |
02:13 |
phf |
campdraft looks pretty intense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yocvqAaPhU |
02:14 |
phf |
mr peponita might not be as lazy as he looks |
02:15 |
vex |
he needs a dog |
02:17 |
vex |
mats. how to make 7500 this week? |
02:17 |
phf |
i want an australian cattle dog |
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02:18 |
vex |
do it |
02:18 |
vex |
best dog eva |
02:18 |
vex |
incidentally most dangerous dog in .au |
02:19 |
vex |
very nippy. |
02:20 |
vex |
statistically bad. actllally good |
02:23 |
phf |
sounds perfect |
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~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~ |
03:29 |
crtdaydreams |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-03#1092277 << kinda mortifying that someone just a year below me has no concept of sending information across wires |
03:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-03 21:45:17 verisimilitude: The corporate brainwashing has been going well. |
03:30 |
crtdaydreams |
though reassuring that they're switched on enough to question the nature of data and whom it's entrusted to |
03:33 |
crtdaydreams |
i fear though that mindless scrolling will kill of any form of curiosity to further pursue that train of thought |
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~ 19 minutes ~ |
03:52 |
crtdaydreams |
asciilifeform: been browsing ice40 chips, so far the selection of boards seems to boil down to tinyfpga-bx, fomu and the classic icebreaker. Just wondering what you have and whether or not you think GPIO would be worth it if just learning FPGA? |
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04:03 |
crtdaydreams |
also wondering if worth getting 8K variant over 5K |
04:04 |
* |
crtdaydreams is inclined to believe moar LUTs == better, but may be very wrong |
04:06 |
vex |
whats a LUT? |
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04:07 |
vex |
lunch unified time? |
04:08 |
vex |
get back to work |
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~ 15 minutes ~ |
04:24 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZRRAkeQKhA |
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~ 26 minutes ~ |
04:50 |
vex |
phf, rolling a blue thru the streets, helps to have a pocket plinker |
04:50 |
vex |
might need to end a pit |
04:51 |
vex |
blue don't stop |
04:54 |
vex |
knife works too, but you gotta jump the fence |
04:56 |
vex |
they appreciate the teamwork |
05:05 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRIP9_JCGoU |
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~ 8 hours 23 minutes ~ |
13:28 |
PeterL |
My brother-in-law had a couple australian cattle dogs as a teenager, he said they would routinely catch and kill skunks, never got sprayed because they worked together as a team and were so viscious and killed it so fast |
13:28 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-03 22:17:00 phf: i want an australian cattle dog |
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~ 44 minutes ~ |
14:12 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-03#1092314 << for n00bs, asciilifeform recs 'icestick', has built-in programmator. moar than sufficient for study, get bigger ones once you've 'graduated'. |
14:12 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-03 23:51:43 crtdaydreams: asciilifeform: been browsing ice40 chips, so far the selection of boards seems to boil down to tinyfpga-bx, fomu and the classic icebreaker. Just wondering what you have and whether or not you think GPIO would be worth it if just learning FPGA? |
14:14 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-04#1092317 << lookuptable. |
14:14 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-04 00:05:21 vex: whats a LUT? |
14:15 |
asciilifeform |
$ticker btc usd |
14:15 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $46175.9 |
14:15 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
14:15 |
watchglass |
Polling 15 nodes... |
14:15 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.112s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.094s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.143s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=730404 (Operator: whaack) |
14:15 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.204s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.261s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.275s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
14:15 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.345s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.384s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730184 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.599s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.431s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730404 |
14:15 |
watchglass |
103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.508s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=417864 (Operator: whaack) |
14:17 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
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~ 3 hours 12 minutes ~ |
17:29 |
asciilifeform |
!!deed http://www.loper-os.org/pub/tbf/tbf_q1_2022.txt |
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17:29 |
deedbot |
accepted: 1 |
17:30 |
asciilifeform |
hm typo, s/[3]// but harmless |
17:32 |
asciilifeform |
( tldr: no fuel burned in q4 2021 ) |
17:36 |
asciilifeform |
... and currently no plan to burn any in q1 2022. |
17:36 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-12-18 11:28:20 asciilifeform: ... problem is, is very difficult to increase the amt of useful work with coin (aside from, hypothetically, jailbreaking ~people~, ideally 2-3 people. but piggy -- or 'sandwich-adjusted' exchrate -- would have to be ~10x bigger to make this plausible) |
17:36 |
asciilifeform |
err, q2 |
17:38 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen cgra |
17:38 |
dulapbot |
cgra last seen here on 2022-02-28 12:26:43: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-27#1081208 << close enough to ponder whether finland's next, or what was going on again |
17:38 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen punkman |
17:38 |
dulapbot |
punkman last seen here on 2022-01-27 09:39:41: I mean "bug" |
17:38 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen mod6 |
17:38 |
dulapbot |
mod6 last seen here on 2022-01-09 16:47:21: < asciilifeform> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071636 << you may've been the 1st to actually test that knob << sure, ditto the same with whaack's nick. |
17:38 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen whaack |
17:38 |
dulapbot |
whaack last seen here on 2022-03-31 10:41:00: asciilifeform: the irc interface means it can be integrated with pest so that upload is limited to pest peers |
17:39 |
asciilifeform |
!q seen BingoBoingo |
17:39 |
dulapbot |
BingoBoingo last seen here on 2022-02-28 12:49:43: In the past month US down ~19% versus Brasil's Real, 5.3% versus Peso Uruguay |
17:43 |
* |
asciilifeform oughta comment re this oddity -- asciilifeform rather skeptical re 'this took two weeks in order to sync the blockchain', given asciilifeform's 'cement' test on 'threadripper', and largely from local noad having taken ~40d. |
17:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-29 19:56:24 thimbronion: this guy never heard of trb I guess: https://achow101.com/2022/03/syncing-0.5.0 |
17:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-28 09:57:33 asciilifeform: meanwhile, cement testbed synced ! |
17:43 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: see if you can get that fella to visit, if you've the cycles |
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~ 23 minutes ~ |
18:07 |
whaack |
looks like my node in NZ is taking quite a longer time to sync |
18:07 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: this w/ cement ? |
18:08 |
whaack |
yes |
18:08 |
whaack |
!w probe 103.36.92.112 |
18:08 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.645s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=730436 |
18:08 |
asciilifeform |
would be interesting to see debug log |
18:08 |
whaack |
!c peers 103.36.92.112 |
18:08 |
crawlerbot |
whaack: my valid commands are: src, uptime, help, net-summary, version, trb-status |
18:08 |
asciilifeform |
hm loox synced ? |
18:09 |
whaack |
!w probe 103.6.212.28 |
18:09 |
watchglass |
103.6.212.28:8333 : Alive: (0.526s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=418432 |
18:09 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: probed wrong node, saw '103.' and thought it was mine |
18:09 |
asciilifeform |
aa |
18:10 |
asciilifeform |
loox to be most of the way through the cement |
18:11 |
* |
asciilifeform satisfied in his test that 'waiting for block' time reduced, as one'd expect, to ~0 when cemented |
18:11 |
whaack |
asciilfeform: well blocks 1-200k have always taken only 1-2 days for me, the gears start grinding at around 350k |
18:11 |
whaack |
!c trb-status |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
75.106.222.93 (Could not connect!), h=730432, v=99999, United States - peers: 222 - last probed: 7m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
103.36.92.112 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, Singapore - peers: 74 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
54.39.156.171 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, Canada - peers: 63 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
54.38.94.63 (Alive), h=730436, v=88888, France - peers: 60 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
205.134.172.4 (Alive), h=730436, v=70001, United States - peers: 54 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
208.94.240.42 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 49 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
94.176.238.102 (Alive), h=730184, v=99999, Lithuania - peers: 31 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
71.191.220.241 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 27 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
205.134.172.28 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 27 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
82.79.58.192 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, Romania - peers: 26 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
205.134.172.27 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 15 - last probed: 11m ago |
18:11 |
asciilifeform |
cement won't help w/ db grind in verification; only cuts down the time when 'sitting w/ open mouth' |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
205.134.172.6 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 11 - last probed: 12m ago |
18:11 |
crawlerbot |
205.134.172.26 (Alive), h=730436, v=99999, United States - peers: 10 - last probed: 11m ago |
18:12 |
crawlerbot |
103.6.212.28 (Alive), h=418424, v=99999, New Zealand - peers: None - last probed: 7m ago |
18:12 |
whaack |
billymg: did you manually add my node or did it get picked up by your crawlerbot automatically? I still have no peers for some reason |
18:12 |
billymg |
whaack: got picked up automatically |
18:13 |
whaack |
cool, weird it took so long and weird i have No peers, i wonder if somehow that is slowing down my sync, or if it's just normal verification grind |
18:14 |
billymg |
whaack: for the longest time no other nodes were returning it as a peer (which is currently the only way the crawler can discover a new node). i noticed yesterday that it was finally found and queried to see who had reported it |
18:14 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-04-03 22:47:30 billymg: results from db of nodes returning it as one of their peers: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=sMnv (previously this query returned 0) |
18:15 |
billymg |
did you ever restart with a series of -addnode flags? |
18:16 |
billymg |
btw, still a WIP but i've got an updated version of the crawler www running here now: http://dev.bitdash.io/ |
18:17 |
billymg |
mostly just a facelift, but is also responsive now, and displays the time series data. color scheme is auto based on your OS preference (e.g. "dark mode") |
18:19 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: nifty graphic (tho a bit hard to read on asciilifeform's screen, low contrast imho) |
18:20 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: i'll add a toggle for the old color scheme, currently only set via OS knob |
18:20 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: also only seeing 2 lines on the 'participating species' graph rather than 3 |
18:20 |
billymg |
there are three, but due to the scale trb's 14 and trb-compat's ~40 nodes don't represent much against prb's 4k |
18:21 |
billymg |
both just flat lines along the bottom |
18:21 |
asciilifeform |
a |
18:22 |
asciilifeform |
not very useful graph imho then |
18:22 |
billymg |
it will be once trb nodes go up by two orders of magnitude |
18:22 |
asciilifeform |
lolyes |
18:23 |
billymg |
currently, yes, displays the sad state of affairs |
18:24 |
billymg |
if anyone has suggestions for other network metric's they'd like to see charted lemme know, i'd like to add more |
18:24 |
billymg |
metrics* |
18:35 |
whaack |
billymg: no i never restarted the node, may do so soon. |
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~ 2 hours 18 minutes ~ |
20:54 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in 'internet of the fyootoor'(tm)(r) reich lulz. |
20:54 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-03-04 15:41:33 asciilifeform: worth noting, there's ftr 4 basic levels of 'great firewall' : |
20:55 |
asciilifeform |
'The Bureau of Cyberspace and Digital Policy leads and coordinates the Department’s work on cyberspace and digital diplomacy to encourage responsible state behavior in cyberspace and advance policies that protect the integrity and security of the infrastructure of the Internet, serve U.S. interests, promote competitiveness, and uphold democratic values...' |
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21:04 |
verisimilitude |
My favourite example of ``democratic values'' are the laws which prohibit boycotting Israel to varying degrees. |
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21:05 |
verisimilitude |
Copyright ghettos also come to mind as another shining example of freedom. |
21:10 |
verisimilitude |
These articles tell me naught, asciilifeform. |
21:16 |
verisimilitude |
It's amazing how useful command record and playback is. I was unable to automate something in Emacs lately, but still turned it into a one-key command through a keyboard macro. |
21:23 |
verisimilitude |
Gee, I never read about IBM mainframes failing like this, as if using a giant festering mass of ``consumer-grade'' hardware isn't a stupid fucking idea. |
21:33 |
verisimilitude |
I find it hard to believe these corporations aren't simply incredibly wasteful with their hardware. |
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~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~ |
22:39 |
asciilifeform |
spectacularly wasteful on a scale difficult, for those who have not witnesses w/ own eyes, to even imagine |
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22:39 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2019-12-23 23:18:06 asciilifeform: rather like how the web software stack eats megawatts and gives ui response times folx on the slowest 1970s timesharing systems would have barfed at |
22:39 |
verisimilitude |
As figured. |
22:40 |
verisimilitude |
Meanwhile, the limp-wristed faggots complain about Bitcoin instead. |
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22:40 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-04#1092429 << what's it even export, other than expensive in-patent pharma & similarly expensive small arms ? |
22:40 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-04 17:03:08 verisimilitude: My favourite example of ``democratic values'' are the laws which prohibit boycotting Israel to varying degrees. |
22:40 |
* |
asciilifeform paging adlai |
22:40 |
verisimilitude |
There's a soda machine, and like items. |
22:41 |
verisimilitude |
It's the principle that matters. |
22:41 |
asciilifeform |
rright but difficult to boycott if already not buying, lol |
22:43 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-04#1092438 << rather typical 'double standard' practice among reich mouthpieces. |
22:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-04 18:39:15 verisimilitude: Meanwhile, the limp-wristed faggots complain about Bitcoin instead. |
22:43 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-12-28 11:53:09 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2020-12-28#1027392 << establishment mouthpieces always follow, if not explicitly state, mussolini's 'for us and ours -- everything; for others -- the law'. recall for instance the 'lisp is slow'(tm) folx who carefully set up discussion so that unix load time not counted, but cl runtime's -- is, or pret |
22:46 |
asciilifeform |
e.g. no whines re 'ecological cost' of arsebook, the various reddits, reich.media, feeding entire continents of fucktards who produce 0 and would be missed nowhere if were sent to /dev/null tonight, etc |
22:54 |
verisimilitude |
Well gee, I wouldn't mind being on the other side of Mussolini. |
22:55 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: all modern-day 'law' worx exactly like mussolini's |
22:55 |
verisimilitude |
I figured a nation dealing with illegal immigration could deal with it by, say, removing from them the lawful protections citizens receive. |
22:56 |
verisimilitude |
They could have the jobs citizens won't do, like starring in snuff films. |
22:56 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: observe, exact opposite happens |
22:56 |
verisimilitude |
Yes, because my rulers aren't like me. |
22:57 |
asciilifeform |
in eureich, particularly spectacular, e.g. gypsies (formerly) or 'refugees' ('17--present) take over a house, owner has 0 Official recourse |
22:57 |
verisimilitude |
I don't see Israel having problems like this, and they get to have DNA tests for citizenship as well. |
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23:00 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude: they have diff. problems |
23:00 |
asciilifeform |
( incl., if you like, over9000 citizens who wouldn't pass whatever dna test ) |
23:04 |
verisimilitude |
Sure, but white people are nazis when they do it. |
23:04 |
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adlai is away: response times vary |
23:04 |
adlai |
idle: 4 days, 00 hours 22 minutes 29 seconds |
23:04 |
adlai |
asciilifeform: sup |
23:05 |
asciilifeform |
wb adlai |
23:05 |
verisimilitude |
Hello, adlai. |
23:05 |
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adlai glances at scrollback;,. am expected to opine each time my fiat locality is boycotted? |
23:05 |
asciilifeform |
adlai: what's it export naodays ? |
23:06 |
adlai |
fwiw, there is a whole science of "how to be a BDS member, without actually harming Israel financially" |
23:06 |
adlai |
it boils down to tell everybody about BDS, veganism, and archlinux, before somebody else does. |
23:06 |
verisimilitude |
Expand BDS. |
23:06 |
asciilifeform |
bondage,discipline,sadomasochism? |
23:07 |
verisimilitude |
We're not discussing Ada programming. |
23:07 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
23:07 |
adlai |
verisimilitude: /medgaf about the acronym, tbh! tl;dr: it's an organisation that boycotts Israeli exports, to harm the zionist government so long as there is an apartheid state. |
23:08 |
adlai |
e.g., Roger Waters wanted to perform in Israel; then it turned out that folks connected to this organisation got angry, except the tour was already booked, and Roger Waters didn't want to cancel the show and spend two hours lecturing about politics instead of performing |
23:09 |
adlai |
... so they moved the location a few clicks away from the center of hi-tech zionism, and pretended the state of israel didn't exist! profit for everybody. probably even paid fewer rents on the equipment. |
23:10 |
adlai |
my impression of Israeli exports is probably outdated, since I've not warmed chairs in tech park for a while. |
23:11 |
adlai |
back when I did, it boiled down to: military hardware, to close allies (e.g. India); veterans, unofficially (i.e., expatriates, funded through tourism exchanges); and software-as-a-service of any and everything possible to internetize. |
23:12 |
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adlai never explored the military world beyond small arms, fwiw! |
23:13 |
adlai |
pretty much had zero contact with artillery after discharge from the mandatory service. |
23:14 |
adlai |
some folks live in the revolving door, and do nothing other than interferometry and haggling over huge tracts of empty desert for the purposes of testing one thing... and other people pretty much just leave. |
23:20 |
adlai |
fwiw, pretty much only time anyone ever dangled "problem of too much money" in exchange for "pretend you're a grantwriter", I got silently laughed out of the negotiation for my ideas being too similar to military tech. |
23:20 |
adlai |
turns out everybody in town is a pacifist! |
23:27 |
adlai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-02#1092215 << in identical topics... I hope I don't have to quote Babbage, because I understand why such dismissal gets expressed. |
23:27 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-02 02:23:14 mats: bio or chem warfare is pretty dumb unless you're going to fight in cities, in which case, arty is cheaper |
23:27 |
adlai |
e.g., 2022-04-02 was quite a quiet day, other than "bio or chem warfare is [useless; artillery better]" |
23:28 |
adlai |
... yet the point of unconventional warfare is typically not homogenous across all three components of NBC. |
23:28 |
adlai |
anyway, ain't gonna talk to myself by keyboard, so long as it costs electricity. |
23:30 |
adlai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-04-01#1092037 << all along the watchtower? |
23:30 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-04-01 13:05:07 phf: as far as history, east coast is really weird. there's a lot of usg developed "points of interests" with little plaques in english, chinese and braille. on the other hand the area where i live has churches built in 17xx, my friend's house is early 18th century, but it's all just there, not particularly historically preserved |
23:30 |
adlai |
[... as opposed to "only in New England"] |
23:31 |
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adlai does share nostalgia for the northern east coast; however, also quite suspicious that returning the adult adlai there will result in the typical "strange, place seems to have shrunk and gone lame" response. |
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23:47 |
billymg |
asciilifeform: added theme switch knob to footer, it sets a cookie |