| 02:27 |
whaack |
howdy all |
| 02:27 |
whaack |
i'm back at the terminal, i should be pretty active for the next 15 days or so |
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~ 1 hours 55 minutes ~ |
| 04:22 |
asciilifeform |
wb whaack ! |
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| 04:51 |
mats |
https://coinmetrics.io/following-flows-ii-where-do-miners-sell |
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~ 8 hours 46 minutes ~ |
| 13:37 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: ty |
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~ 42 minutes ~ |
| 14:20 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: is this still your recommended ssd ? https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-860-evo-2-5--sata-iii-2tb-mz-76e2t0b-am/ |
| 14:20 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: i'm also considering buying some external ssds, do you have any recommendations? |
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| 14:49 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: at this pt all the samsungs in asciilifeform's torture room are '270' series. they seem to have similar wear characteristics, but very slightly faster i/o |
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| 14:51 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: avoid 'qvo' lineup tho, those are the 'starvation' variant which burn ~2x as fast |
| 14:52 |
asciilifeform |
re: vendors other than samsung -- have 1 machine w/ a toshiba, circa '17, still alive (tho very light on writes on acct of what runs there; yer mileage may vary) |
| 14:55 |
asciilifeform |
the dc dulaps all run on 860s; to date none have needed replacement. |
| 14:58 |
asciilifeform |
asciilifeform's dc trb noad, an 'apu1', also on 860 (the 'm2' compact variant), ~2.5y of service, disk aint dead yet. |
| 14:58 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-10 08:52:26 watchglass: 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722624 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 14:59 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-02-11#1078701 << s/270/870 lol |
| 14:59 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-11 09:49:52 asciilifeform: whaack: at this pt all the samsungs in asciilifeform's torture room are '270' series. they seem to have similar wear characteristics, but very slightly faster i/o |
| 15:00 |
asciilifeform |
!w poll |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
Polling 14 nodes... |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.081s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=722780 |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.084s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.095s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 (Operator: asciilifeform) |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.142s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.172s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=722780 (Operator: whaack) |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.204s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.263s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
94.176.238.102:8333 : (2ppf.s.time4vps.cloud) Alive: (0.319s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=721990 |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.314s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.644s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 |
| 15:00 |
watchglass |
75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.566s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=722780 |
| 15:01 |
watchglass |
205.134.172.26:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
| 15:01 |
watchglass |
143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.) |
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| 15:54 |
scoopbot |
New article on billymg: Running MP-WP on a Modern Musl-Based Gentoo |
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~ 43 minutes ~ |
| 16:37 |
billymg |
^ i had the bulk of that article sitting around for almost two weeks, been busy with irl projects (completely rewired the entire property, all new cables, conduits, breakers. also now split into 5 meters, up from the previous 2, which, based on how they meter here, should save about 30% on the monthly bill) |
| 16:38 |
billymg |
whaack: for an external ssd just take the same samsung 870 and put it in an external enclosure |
| 16:38 |
billymg |
they're usually like $20 or so on amazon |
| 16:44 |
billymg |
re: the totally-not-an-inside-fed-job bitfinex hack, i saw somewhere that they're not even going to charge them with the actual theft (because obviously wouldn't want that to be under any form of scrutiny), only the money laundering and "conspiracy to defraud the usg" |
| 16:58 |
asciilifeform |
billymg: unsurprise, lol. there's exactly 1 'authorized thief' in the reich. |
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| 17:49 |
whaack |
lol i bet if they're going to do any payout to the bagholders it will be USD at the price of the coin when it was stolen |
| 17:49 |
asciilifeform |
a la mtgox aha |
| 17:50 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: i thought the mtgox people got a flat 0 |
| 17:51 |
asciilifeform |
some handful supposedly 'paid' |
| 17:51 |
billymg |
i think most of it was already paid back, back in 2016 |
| 17:51 |
billymg |
not in btc of course, in some other token bitfinex created for the purpose |
| 17:51 |
billymg |
i.e. "here's a stack of chips on the house, don't forget to tip your dealre" |
| 17:52 |
billymg |
dealer* |
| 17:52 |
PeterL |
billymg: in the "PHP 5.6 and Apache 2.4" section, s/enale/enable |
| 17:52 |
billymg |
PeterL: ty, fixed |
| 17:56 |
billymg |
i'm amused at the irony of the USG charging these two with "money laundering" when in fact it was the feds that stole it, and are now, six years, later laundering it themselves through the this fake "bust" |
| 17:56 |
billymg |
"six years later,"* |
| 17:57 |
asciilifeform |
sop. |
| 17:57 |
billymg |
yup |
| 18:06 |
billymg |
ah, apparently even with their casino chips only refunded 36% of the loss: https://coinidol.com/bitfinex-reimburses-hacked-customers-in-full/ |
| 18:06 |
billymg |
my guess is along with some agreement that if you cash in your 36% chips you sign away any later claims to compensation for your loss |
| 18:12 |
mats |
iirc the mtgox claims are denominated in btc and have been on the verge of resolution for months |
| 18:16 |
mats |
some percentage of those coins will definitely flow into exchanges as people get their coins back and go into fiat or diversify into alts https://blog.wizsec.jp/2021/02/mtgox-claim-calculator.html |
| 18:17 |
mats |
“The trustee also reserved a buffer of what bankruptcy creditors would have received for their crypto claims (50,058.12 JPY per BTC) by selling a portion of MtGox's remaining bitcoins in order to guard against a possible future drop in market value. The estate currently holds 141,686 BTC and 142,846 BCH, plus about 68 billion JPY worth of fiat.” |
| 18:19 |
mats |
it’s weird to call the bitfinex hack an inside fed job, I haven’t read any evidence of it being either an inside job or fed involvement |
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| 18:24 |
asciilifeform |
mats: our null hypotheses differ. |
| 18:24 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-02-08 13:53:38 asciilifeform: i.e. usg's indictments have approx. same relationship to fact as freisler's. |
| 18:25 |
mats |
it should cause a nice dip when mtgox claimants get paid and they sell some percentage to exchanges for fiat and diversification into alts |
| 18:26 |
mats |
supply has been very tight and that will probably continue into the future |
| 18:26 |
asciilifeform |
esp. the 'claimants' who are actually reich sockpuppets. |
| 18:29 |
mats |
I don’t see how anyone benefits from trying to dump coins via waterfall in the current day |
| 18:29 |
asciilifeform |
mats: srsly? don't see why reich absolutely must prevent runaway 'moon' ? |
| 18:30 |
mats |
You might wipe out a bunch of leveraged positions but there’s no assurance you’ll end up with more fiat or btc at end of play |
| 18:30 |
asciilifeform |
the folx printing printolade aint out to 'end up with moar fiat or btc' |
| 18:30 |
mats |
You might ensure some other participants end up with bags of your money though |
| 18:31 |
mats |
Who will probably put it back into bitcoins |
| 18:35 |
mats |
It might cause more volatility but naively it’s hard for me to come to the conclusion it all nets out to suppression of the price |
| 18:36 |
mats |
People with low time preference and no margin come out ahead |
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| 19:15 |
billymg |
http://logs.bitdash.io/asciilifeform/2022-02-11#1078750 lol, where would you expect to read about it? cnn? |
| 19:15 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2022-02-11 18:19:00 mats: it’s weird to call the bitfinex hack an inside fed job, I haven’t read any evidence of it being either an inside job or fed involvement |
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~ 56 minutes ~ |
| 20:11 |
asciilifeform |
hm scoopbot awol ? |
| 20:12 |
asciilifeform |
ACHTUNG, panzers: 'The V Public License.' |
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| 20:12 |
asciilifeform |
verisimilitude ^ |
| 20:14 |
asciilifeform |
q's/comments invited. |
| 20:15 |
scoopbot |
New article on Loper OS: The V Public License. |
| 20:15 |
asciilifeform |
ah lol there it is |
| 20:16 |
PeterL |
hmm, scoopbot gone again? |
| 20:16 |
asciilifeform |
mno,falsealarm |
| 20:24 |
PeterL |
asciilifeform: "rather than one of the many vile agglomerations of faecal droppings from anonymous vermin typically met with in public digital cesspools." << this phrase does not seem to keep the same academic, fact-based tone as the rest of the document? |
| 20:25 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL: intentional. |
| 20:26 |
PeterL |
nice concise explanation of what v is |
| 20:26 |
asciilifeform |
PeterL et al feel free to come up w/ own variant, asciilifeform aint attempting to be 'god emperor' or to force anyone to use subj. as given. |
| 20:28 |
asciilifeform |
+ IANAL. anybody deluded enuff to contemplate attempting enforcement of this or any other 'software license', in whatever shithole, will have to fork over own dough and get it massaged. |
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~ 28 minutes ~ |
| 20:57 |
whaack |
asciilifeform: ah ok, i spent a couple mins scratching my head looking for the 270 series |
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~ 22 minutes ~ |
| 21:19 |
asciilifeform |
whaack: my apologies. 870. |
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~ 1 hours 53 minutes ~ |
| 23:13 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: consider calling it the GFY license |
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| 23:27 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: wassat? |
| 23:27 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: https://www.cyberdefinitions.com/definitions/GFY.html |
| 23:28 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: that'd be moar appropriate re: the old one, neh |
| 23:30 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: not seeing a link to the old one there |
| 23:30 |
asciilifeform |
link |
| 23:31 |
asciilifeform |
the 1 devised by mp |
| 23:32 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: definitely an appropriate title in that case |
| 23:33 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: 'VPL' aint a variant of subj. i rec to read the article, it aint long. |
| 23:36 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: I read. Still seems like a troll. |
| 23:37 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: can't resist to ask wai |
| 23:37 |
asciilifeform |
imho no moar of a trolol than e.g. gpl. |
| 23:39 |
* |
asciilifeform intends to 'relicense' e.g. ffa under 'vpl' upon next vpatch to same. |
| 23:39 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: I guess because legally minded folks might take it seriously |
| 23:40 |
asciilifeform |
even better. |
| 23:40 |
asciilifeform |
is entirely intended to be taken seriously. while same people who pissed on the earlier mpistic 1 will of course piss equally. |
| 23:41 |
asciilifeform |
the linked txt factually reflects what e.g. asciilifeform wishes people to do with his softs. |
| 23:42 |
asciilifeform |
and quite deliberately prohibits e.g. throwing onto shithub and similar idiocy. |
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| 23:43 |
asciilifeform |
( a hypothetical shithub which only accepts signed commits and spits'em out on demand as a vtree would be kosher per vpl. afaik dun exist tho ) |
| 23:46 |
asciilifeform |
vpl is erry bit a serious reaction to the idiocy of gpl as the latter was to microshit's. |
| 23:47 |
asciilifeform |
asciilifeform is wholly uninterested in being a contributor to the fungal mass of open sores as exemplified by gpl et al. |
| 23:49 |
asciilifeform |
100% willing to collaborate with human beings, rather than fungi, and these asciilifeform defines principally by a willingness to uphold the cause of the human against the fungal; and not the least important aspect of this is vtronic publication. |
| 23:57 |
thimbronion |
Should I publish a genesis of the version of python I'm using for blatta? |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: iirc signpost is working on this |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
thimbronion: if yer asking whether this is demanded by 'vpl' -- it aint, if you read carefully |
| 23:58 |
thimbronion |
asciilifeform: wasn't wrt to the license |
| 23:58 |
asciilifeform |
a |
| 23:59 |
asciilifeform |
but yes, at some pt ideally we'll have a vtree of literally errything one might care to stuff into a newly-powered box. |
| 23:59 |
thimbronion |
2.7 is already "unsupported" |
| 23:59 |
asciilifeform |
indeed |