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00:22 asciilifeform aaaapparently all the random thrds today in #pest !
00:22 asciilifeform historic!1
00:28 thimbronion lulz
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01:46 * asciilifeform will add #pest logging eventually on dulap
01:46 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-04 21:37:41 asciilifeform: intends to stand up a pestlogger on dulap as soon as we have a pestron w/ 'getdata'. until then the log is gonna end up fulla holes and frustrating.
~ 11 hours 13 minutes ~
12:59 asciilifeform $ticker btc usd
12:59 busybot Current BTC price in USD: $41791.21
12:59 asciilifeform !w poll
12:59 watchglass Polling 14 nodes...
12:59 watchglass 205.134.172.27:8333 : Alive: (0.083s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 (Operator: asciilifeform)
12:59 watchglass 205.134.172.6:8333 : (172-6.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=717868
12:59 watchglass 71.191.220.241:8333 : (pool-71-191-220-241.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Alive: (0.132s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868 (Operator: asciilifeform)
12:59 watchglass 205.134.172.26:8333 : Alive: (0.141s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=717868
12:59 watchglass 205.134.172.4:8333 : (172-4.core.ai.net) Alive: (0.135s) V=70001 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868
12:59 watchglass 54.39.156.171:8333 : (ns562940.ip-54-39-156.net) Alive: (0.173s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868
12:59 watchglass 205.134.172.28:8333 : Alive: (0.144s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Return Addr=0.0.0.0:8333 Blocks=717868 (Operator: whaack)
13:00 watchglass 208.94.240.42:8333 : Alive: (0.143s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868
13:00 watchglass 54.38.94.63:8333 : (ns3140226.ip-54-38-94.eu) Alive: (0.314s) V=88888 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.8.88.88/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868
13:00 watchglass 82.79.58.192:8333 : (static-82-79-58-192.rdsnet.ro) Alive: (0.323s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717102
13:00 watchglass 103.36.92.112:8333 : (terebe.ns01.net) Alive: (0.656s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868
13:00 watchglass 75.106.222.93:8333 : Alive: (0.417s) V=99999 (/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/) Jumpers=0x1 (TRB-Compat.) Blocks=717868
13:00 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
13:01 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
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15:28 asciilifeform !w probe 94.176.238.102
15:29 asciilifeform !w probe 94.176.238.102 8333
15:29 asciilifeform !w probe 143.202.160.10 8333
15:29 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
15:30 watchglass 94.176.238.102:8333 : Violated BTC Protocol: Bad header length!
15:30 watchglass 143.202.160.10:8333 : Busy? (No answer in 100 sec.)
15:34 asciilifeform meanwhile in heathen lulz, 'code that fits in your head' 'Addison-Wesley Professional; 1st edition (November 15, 2021)' (some c# rubbish, seems)
15:34 * asciilifeform not read, if anyone has, plox to write in.
15:35 asciilifeform ( vendor link )
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16:43 whaack asciilifeform: the cover looks like a book my mentor had me read during my internship at goolag, that book was called 'Clean Code' or something
~ 49 minutes ~
17:33 whaack test
17:33 whaack !e view-height
17:33 trbexplorer block_height: 717895
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18:55 mod6 Over in #pest, just ran `/quote unpeer whaak` and was about to enter his updated key and AT info. but now, blatta won't even restart. Just keep getting this message over and over on start up: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=pgIv
18:56 mod6 Here's a peek at the IRC (irssi) client side: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=DmUT
18:56 mod6 Do I need to nuke the .db and start cleanly?
18:57 whaack mod6: i would backup the db and start again with a new db, you can also look at test_net_configs and start_test_net.sh to see how to manually write in the at tables + keys in a config file
18:58 mod6 Sounds good whaak. Will do just that. Cheers!
~ 1 hours 15 minutes ~
20:13 billymg mod6: just saw this, unpeering before unkeying currently triggers this bug
20:13 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-07 19:38:27 billymg: thimbronion: found a bug in blatta. if you /unpeer with someone you have keyed it will crash inside get_keyed_peers() in lib/state.py because it iterates though the peer_ids in the keys table, but one will be missing from the list of peers
20:13 billymg you don't have to nuke the whole db, just go into sqlite and delete the key for the user you just unpeered
20:17 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071632 << could be, does look like it's part of a series
20:17 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-09 11:35:41 whaack: asciilifeform: the cover looks like a book my mentor had me read during my internship at goolag, that book was called 'Clean Code' or something
20:18 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071636 << you may've been the 1st to actually test that knob
20:18 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-09 13:47:17 mod6: Over in #pest, just ran `/quote unpeer whaak` and was about to enter his updated key and AT info. but now, blatta won't even restart. Just keep getting this message over and over on start up: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=pgIv
20:23 billymg asciilifeform: 2nd, see http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-07#1071562
20:23 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-07 19:38:27 billymg: thimbronion: found a bug in blatta. if you /unpeer with someone you have keyed it will crash inside get_keyed_peers() in lib/state.py because it iterates though the peer_ids in the keys table, but one will be missing from the list of peers
20:23 asciilifeform a
20:27 billymg asciilifeform: another message that may gotten lost, i found a simple fix for your spam trap positioning
20:27 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-07 15:27:46 billymg: asciilifeform: in my theme was one line that had to be moved to put the arithmetic test above the submit button, dunno how different our themes are though
20:27 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-07 12:16:25 asciilifeform: btw whaack billymg or other wp aficionados -- if you know how to make the puzzler appear ~above~ the 'submit' button, plox to write in
20:27 asciilifeform billymg: neato, will need to put in my queue of things to try
20:27 billymg have* gotten
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21:54 mod6 < billymg> mod6: just saw this, unpeering before unkeying currently triggers this bug << ahh, ok good to know for the future. some of this may also be, at least partially, related to the fact that I had whaack's nick in there misspelled.
21:54 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-07 19:38:27 billymg: thimbronion: found a bug in blatta. if you /unpeer with someone you have keyed it will crash inside get_keyed_peers() in lib/state.py because it iterates though the peer_ids in the keys table, but one will be missing from the list of peers
21:54 mod6 But, going forward, will remember.
21:55 mod6 < asciilifeform> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071636 << you may've been the 1st to actually test that knob << sure, ditto the same with whaack's nick.
21:55 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-09 13:47:17 mod6: Over in #pest, just ran `/quote unpeer whaak` and was about to enter his updated key and AT info. but now, blatta won't even restart. Just keep getting this message over and over on start up: http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=pgIv
~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~
23:02 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-07#1071542 << good observations.
23:02 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-07 18:04:47 signpost: perhaps one could claim that the religious rendering protects against any particular mortal claiming they are the embodiment of the ideal, but in practice that doesn't appear to have stopped anyone.
23:03 gregory5 http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071630 << I read the whole book. it was surprisingly good for "enterprise" genre.
23:03 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-09 10:26:38 asciilifeform: not read, if anyone has, plox to write in.
23:05 gregory5 I attribute this in a large part (sorry) to the author being Danish, not American.
23:08 gregory5 the book is aimed at intermediate enterprise-programmers. `asciilifeform` might not learn anything.
23:10 gregory5 the author was a former APL and Haskell programmer. before that, he was trained as an economist.
23:10 gregory5 "The most important notion of encapsulation is that an object should guarantee that it never reaches an invalid state."
23:10 gregory5 "The maintenance of a valid state is no longer the caller's responsibility... The better the guarantees which are given,"
23:11 gregory5 "the less defensive the code which the caller needs to write." this was an excellent quote from the book, slightly paraphrased.
23:13 gregory5 the author, like Naggum, also blames the rise of PCs in the 1990s for ruining software as a discipline.
23:14 verisimilitude I find this amusing.
23:15 verisimilitude No, that's the wrong article.
23:15 verisimilitude I find this amusing.
23:16 verisimilitude In brief, some JavaScript pro hipster dipshit is upset his code primarily useful to corporations is being used by them without any payment.
23:16 verisimilitude This is a common thread with them.
23:16 verisimilitude ``All of the layers below me don't matter. My JavaScript linter configuration file is what needs to be funded, damnit!''
23:17 verisimilitude In the idiocy regarding this, auditing the code is never even mentioned as an option.
23:22 verisimilitude It's a shame these people don't do anything important enough for their negligence to kill them.
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23:43 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071668 << this reads rather like, say, 'the most important aspect of designing a rifle is to guarantee that the bolt never flies backwards into the wielder's eye socket'
23:43 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-09 18:02:41 gregory5: "The most important notion of encapsulation is that an object should guarantee that it never reaches an invalid state."
23:43 asciilifeform ... i.e. while not ~false~, is not particularly 'pithy' observation imho
23:45 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071678 << of course not. ( for folx who did not read the linked lul: story ended with microshit.shithub ~confiscating~ the repo and freezing in old version, the one w/out the infinite loop)
23:45 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-09 18:09:17 verisimilitude: In the idiocy regarding this, auditing the code is never even mentioned as an option.
23:46 asciilifeform i.e. in fact microshit confirmed the imho obvious state of affairs re ownership of shithub-hosted liquishit
23:48 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2022-01-09#1071677 << reminiscent of that time mp frothed over nyt plagiarizing some ln from 1 of his articles
23:48 dulapbot Logged on 2022-01-09 18:08:46 verisimilitude: ``All of the layers below me don't matter. My JavaScript linter configuration file is what needs to be funded, damnit!''
23:51 asciilifeform for reference, asciilifeform's official position on subj.
23:51 dulapbot Logged on 2021-02-21 17:18:46 asciilifeform: the reality-based view is : 'intellectual property is what you keep to yourself.'
23:52 asciilifeform ( concretely, in detail. )
23:52 dulapbot Logged on 2021-02-21 17:41:20 asciilifeform: verisimilitude: 'the law' in fact worx exclusively against you an' i , and in favour of microshit et al (and the occasional popescu, patent troll, etc.)
23:52 dulapbot Logged on 2021-02-21 17:41:57 asciilifeform: the sooner you grasp this, the sooner can avoid blowing mental cpu cycles on dead end train of though 'how can i humiliate microshit using magick strings in my src files'
23:52 dulapbot Logged on 2021-02-21 17:42:13 asciilifeform: there aint a suitable magick string. cuz it in fact is not how reich law worx.
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