00:16 |
shinohai |
greets vex |
00:16 |
vex |
heya shino |
00:19 |
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vex feels decidedly slovenly for not attempting to build alf's rng, particularly considering that I asked for extra notes more than once. Erry time, were promptly published. |
00:19 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-11 19:03:23 asciilifeform: surprisingly tricky (if no one to crib from , lol) |
00:23 |
vex |
How many smoke detectors do I need for your thing shinohai? |
00:23 |
shinohai |
like 72 or something |
00:24 |
shinohai |
Don't stop until ur skin starts to itch as a general rule. |
00:26 |
vex |
sounds powerful |
00:33 |
vex |
I sure would like one of those og snsa tshirts |
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00:39 |
dpb |
i give them free with purchase of fg |
00:40 |
vex |
I thought nubs still had the box |
00:41 |
dpb |
yeah i never got those ones, but i already had a box of them |
00:41 |
vex |
cool |
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01:09 |
vex |
how long do you propose the trb coffers to last asciilifeform? |
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01:10 |
vex |
34 pieces won't last forever |
01:13 |
vex |
a long time, but not forever |
01:18 |
vex |
if you're planning to disperse it; there will be less |
01:22 |
vex |
I'm preaching to the choir here. I underestimated the sanwich cost. that printer sure goes brrr |
01:30 |
vex |
meanwhile in testnet, cdd, who is your daddy and what does he do? |
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01:30 |
vex |
pls don't say nfi, coz 19 years ago.... |
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01:31 |
vex |
prolly won't even read it. |
01:35 |
vex |
you're spooking me out kid |
01:43 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62QkD_q1bs |
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02:24 |
vex |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ0yjYUFKAE |
02:28 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-15#1066168 << this is an interesting q with an interesting answr. |
02:28 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-15 20:09:32 vex: how long do you propose the trb coffers to last asciilifeform? |
02:29 |
asciilifeform |
a properly-adaized replacement-trb (i.e. with ZERO traces of derpcoad and demonstrably bug-free) would be what one could call 'permanent software' |
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02:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2020-10-01 15:00:29 asciilifeform: gregorynyssa: there's not a thing that'd rise to the level of 'plan'. asciilifeform in particular wrote 3 things: 'nqb', a largely-complete coder/decoder for the formats used in trb; ffa, with which possible to perform the cryptonumerics; and 'cryostat', to implement a o(1) db . |
02:29 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. the kind that can be left alone for all time. |
02:30 |
asciilifeform |
ergo the primary mission of tbf is a finite one. |
02:30 |
asciilifeform |
which is convenient because neither asciilifeform nor afaik any other prospectice participants are immortals |
02:31 |
asciilifeform |
'Ihr Racker, wollt ihr ewig leben?'(tm)(r)(frederick ii) |
02:33 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-15#1066163 << i recently found anuther bag of'em. possibly even someone asked for it, and i neglected to get'em out, but i fughet who it was... |
02:33 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-15 19:33:11 vex: I sure would like one of those og snsa tshirts |
02:33 |
asciilifeform |
(and can't seem to find in the log either) |
02:35 |
asciilifeform |
anyways to round off vex's thread -- after permanent-trb is complete, i expect the remainder of the coffer is to be used to support noades , as well as maintenance of our gnat, signpost's miniature linux, and whatever other components req'd to revv up the kit on off-the-shelf irons. |
02:35 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. so that it remains runnable. |
02:36 |
asciilifeform |
( aaaand it is conceivable that folx (incl. asciilifeform) will at some pt put ~into~ the piggy, rather than only take out ! ) |
02:38 |
* |
asciilifeform also is in favour of use of tbf piggy in re: efforts to e.g. unwind segshit, if at some pt this appears practical and the necessary resources require coin |
02:39 |
asciilifeform |
... if, speculatively, such an exercise yields coin, naturally said coin oughta end up in the piggy. |
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04:55 |
scoopbot |
New post on A Syndication of Verisimilitudes: A Review of ``Computing Machinery and Intelligence'' by Alan Turing |
04:56 |
verisimilitude |
Say, I may as well ask, have ye any recommended reading for better understand S-boxes and other such things? While I could implement the Serpent cipher already, I'd prefer to have a better understanding of it. |
04:56 |
verisimilitude |
s/understand/understanding/ |
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05:25 |
cdd |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-15#1066173 << Not the kind of attitude I intended to portray. No, I do not have daddy issues. |
05:25 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-15 20:30:23 vex: meanwhile in testnet, cdd, who is your daddy and what does he do? |
05:26 |
cdd |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-15#1066174 << What is nfi? |
05:26 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-15 20:30:55 vex: pls don't say nfi, coz 19 years ago.... |
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07:40 |
vex |
no fucking idea, also bbl is be back later |
07:43 |
vex |
this is generally considered common knowedge |
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07:51 |
vex |
all i'm saying is I hope you know your daddy coz I was pretty prolific in oz 19 years ago |
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07:53 |
vex |
it's a small space |
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12:04 |
cdd |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066203 << I don't text people much, spend most my time jacked in with a keyboard so shortcuts are unnecessary, I'll keep that in mind. |
12:04 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 02:43:38 vex: this is generally considered common knowedge |
12:05 |
cdd |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066204 << Is that a threat??? |
12:05 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 02:51:38 vex: all i'm saying is I hope you know your daddy coz I was pretty prolific in oz 19 years ago |
12:06 |
cdd |
Legitimately confused at what you're trying to infer. |
12:07 |
shinohai |
buenas dias cdd |
12:07 |
cdd |
'morn shinohai |
12:08 |
shinohai |
$ticker btc usd |
12:08 |
busybot |
Current BTC price in USD: $60427.19 |
12:09 |
cdd |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066205 << We'll see just how small when the census results are published. |
12:09 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 02:53:52 vex: it's a small space |
12:11 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-14#1065649 << if anyone tuned in gets this working, lemme know. the mode code is broken but u dont need that where *were* going anyway |
12:11 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-14 11:53:11 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in misc. finds : a quite compact cl ircd, possibly usable as a pestron frontend. |
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14:59 |
jonsykkel |
14:55 < jonsykkel> if anyone else using irssi: http://zzz.st/up/u9YzaJwI/ |
14:59 |
asciilifeform |
jonsykkel: ty! |
15:06 |
thimbronion |
A suggestion for a possible debugging technique for those who are not able to peer: create a separate net with only yourselves. much less noisy. |
15:07 |
thimbronion |
Obvs. if you're both behind a nat, one of you will need to know their ephemeral port first. |
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15:33 |
BingoBoingo |
cdd Have you ever seen Kindergarten Cop, the classic film? |
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16:00 |
whaack |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-15#1065962 << cool. what exactly are you doing though? Linking to a view-txn call? I want to update the api eventually but don't want to break anything already being used |
16:00 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-15 00:01:08 signpost: also, added a link to whaack's explorer for txn info |
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16:43 |
signpost |
whaack: nah do w/e makes sense, and I'll fix my literally one line with a URL in it |
16:43 |
signpost |
I'm just linking to the page that comes up when you search for a txn |
16:44 |
signpost |
bahahaha cdd for fuck's sake, relax |
16:45 |
signpost |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log-search?q=who+is+your+daddy+and+what+does+he+do&chan=trilema |
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16:45 |
signpost |
life's short, have a chuckle now and then. |
16:46 |
signpost |
btw "crtdaydream" is a way cooler handle than cdd |
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16:47 |
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signpost been meaning to ebay himself a trinitron sometime |
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16:51 |
whaack |
signpost: sounds good. atm i don't plan to change the link address, just the format of the output, so you likely won't even have to do that 1 line change |
16:53 |
whaack |
for anyone who may be interseted: i took a cortisone shot yesterday in both hands, and unfortunately today i have mild/no symptom relief |
16:56 |
signpost |
hm, that sucks |
16:58 |
whaack |
it possibly needs a few days to kick in, but the success stories i've heard from people always mentioned how it worked immediately on application or at most 1 day after |
17:02 |
signpost |
ever been checked for allergies? might have a source of inflammation of some kind |
17:02 |
signpost |
I'm about to start the round of shots to alleviate mine, allergic to just about every damned plant in texas |
17:03 |
signpost |
amusingly, allergic to just about none of those in new england |
17:03 |
signpost |
(where family hails from) |
17:03 |
whaack |
i have seasonal allergies , cat allergies, and i recall i had a bad soy allergy when i was younger |
17:04 |
whaack |
and yup, in CR luckily the seasonal allergies are very mild / non existant, the seasonal allergies mostly affected me in spring/fall in nyc |
17:05 |
signpost |
I'm going to do the food allergy thing next, bad heartburn that seems food-specific. |
17:06 |
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signpost blessed with the genes for celiacs, which wouldn't shock me if they're actually the genes for e.g. glyphosate issues |
17:21 |
signpost |
re: soy they put that in damned everything these days. |
17:21 |
signpost |
my wife does an awesome job sourcing actual food for us, at ever-greater cost. |
17:22 |
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signpost likes to joke that she thickened up my beard doing so, but probably just getting old |
17:28 |
punkman |
whaack: did you try any diet/supplement interventions yet? |
17:35 |
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signpost also points out that black market weed is often covered in pesticide. |
17:39 |
whaack |
punkman: yes, i was taking vitamin b supplements for a while, i take collagen and tumeric regularly, and i tried eating an 'anti-inflammation' diet for 2 weeks, which primarily consisted of no meat or dairy products, no sugar (besides that coming rom fruit smoothies) , no caffine, and lots of 'leafy greens' as iirc trinque pointed out |
17:40 |
whaack |
i also almost entirely gave up drinking, bar a glass of wine now and then, and have picked up/revived a ganja habit |
17:41 |
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signpost gave up pot until living in a legal jurisdiction |
17:44 |
punkman |
I used to have 2-4 day incidents of carpal pain in early twenties, had to avoid writing/typing. was really worried then that it'd get worse. Perhaps some combination of overuse and bad diet, but never really looked into it. |
17:45 |
punkman |
can't remember last time I had one of those, maybe once a year tops |
17:47 |
punkman |
2 weeks for new diet, seems kinda short though |
17:48 |
signpost |
^ |
17:48 |
signpost |
iirc the anti-inflammatory diet is measured in months |
17:48 |
punkman |
no meat or dairy also sounds like a bad idea |
17:51 |
punkman |
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/gelatin.shtml |
17:54 |
whaack |
punkman: thanks for the tips and link, i'll take a look and consider increasing the diet timeline |
17:58 |
punkman |
lots of interesting articles on that website |
17:59 |
punkman |
might also want to search at Google scholar for ideas |
18:00 |
punkman |
if the doctors aren't helping, no other choice |
18:02 |
punkman |
excessive anxiety about the issue also won't be helping, gotta work on that too |
18:09 |
signpost |
yeah, holding oneself tensely really fucks with bloodflow. |
18:10 |
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signpost in years past thought the weed was helping mellow out, definitely did not. |
18:10 |
signpost |
not that I have any moral aversion, shit's fun. just builds up in you with too much of a habit. |
18:10 |
punkman |
I remember getting quite depressed by the carpal pain |
18:11 |
signpost |
punkman: yep, when my left hand was going numb I figured it'd be career-ending. |
18:11 |
signpost |
anyway I figure whaack has a brain, just sharing perspective. |
18:12 |
signpost |
incidentally punkman I'll get the ticker checked out, but my history of heartburn suggests it was probably that. |
18:12 |
signpost |
my body's favorite reaction to the unfamiliar is hives, boiling gut, etc |
18:13 |
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signpost at least mends quickly when his immune system has something real to chew on. |
18:14 |
punkman |
not uncommon for folks to confuse bad case of heartburn with heart attack even |
18:17 |
thimbronion |
was able to fix my hearburn issues by cutting out tobacco, caffeine, and getting a bed that can incline. |
18:18 |
signpost |
if I give up coffee they're going to send me the mormon underwear |
18:18 |
signpost |
interesting re: bed though; I apparently snore like hell so that might solve two problems |
18:18 |
thimbronion |
signpost: I can have like 1 cup a week. I could have more but then it would snowball. |
18:19 |
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signpost drinks one per day, has a pour-over ritual |
18:19 |
thimbronion |
glorious |
18:19 |
punkman |
I got a bunch of niacin (B3) and melatonin today. wanted to have at hand in case of chinese flu, but gonna try it daily for a bit, see if it improves anything. |
18:20 |
punkman |
had to order regular niacin from EU, was impossible to find the regular niacin locally. could only get no-flush, extended-release and such |
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20:07 |
jonsykkel |
re: "Must be the first/second/third command", ftr irssi seems to send in order PASS,NICK,USER |
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20:35 |
signpost |
it's doubtful specifying the order here gains much |
20:36 |
signpost |
probably enough to say that when all three are provided, the pest node and irc frontend proceed to the connected state |
20:37 |
jonsykkel |
would think so, dunno if some specific reason why that in spek |
20:37 |
signpost |
sensible thing to specify if not trying to avoid rebuilding clients at this juncture. |
20:38 |
signpost |
(but in that case, we'd just make connecting a single step) |
20:39 |
jonsykkel |
inded |
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20:56 |
verisimilitude |
I've been doing better lately, due to my new keyboard, but I'm still having some relatively minor issues. I believe taking vitamins and exercising has been helping. |
20:56 |
verisimilitude |
I still need to find a suitable voice system, preferably one I can just install from a package manager; I hate playing system administrator for software I didn't write. |
20:58 |
verisimilitude |
Anyway, here's something stupid and perhaps amusing: I will pay you cash to delete your npm module |
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20:59 |
verisimilitude |
``npm's culture presents a major problem for global software security.'' |
20:59 |
verisimilitude |
I loathe this attitude of ``Your problem is magically my problem, so fix it now!''. |
21:00 |
verisimilitude |
The article is satire, but the first sentence isn't. |
21:03 |
verisimilitude |
I be not the only one here drinking six or eight cups of coffee each day, right? |
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21:04 |
verisimilitude |
A cup for me is roughly the imperial cup measurement unit. |
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22:39 |
bonechewer |
I expect asciilifeform will be too disgusted by the segshit'ism to do more than flame this, but I thought a from-scratch reimplementation of bitcoind in C might be newsworthy, even if only as an organ donor for useful coad |
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22:40 |
verisimilitude |
I didn't investigate that at all, so tell me if there be a catch to it or not, bonechewer. |
22:43 |
bonechewer |
*shrug* I'm far from an expert on bitcoin, so not really qualified to have an opinion. But anytime I see a plain C version of a bloated C++ mess, I applaud. |
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23:26 |
shinohai |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-11-16#1066298 << but this thing builds and if ya need a lightweight way to do enemy txn this is a nice thing |
23:26 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2021-11-16 17:39:56 bonechewer: I expect asciilifeform will be too disgusted by the segshit'ism to do more than flame this, but I thought a from-scratch reimplementation of bitcoind in C might be newsworthy, even if only as an organ donor for useful coad |