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signpost |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026191 << >> http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2017-01-26#1607822 |
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| 09:13 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-05-17 20:02:56 awt: Yeah well everyone's going to be poor enough to work in sweatshops soon so might work out |
| 09:13 |
bitbot |
(trilema) 2017-01-26 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you don't want a strong currency while industrializing. |
| 09:15 |
signpost |
http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2017-01-26#1607861 << heh! and meanwhile |
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| 09:15 |
bitbot |
(trilema) 2017-01-26 trinque: texas would wrap adjoining states in monetary tentacles over time |
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| 10:30 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026192 << what'd be involved in porting the py2 one ? (for that matter, aint there a ffi, and so could drop in a .c) ? |
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| 10:30 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-05-17 23:22:04 awt: Looks like there is no native serpent implementation for python3. |
| 10:32 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026197 << state-sponsored permissionedcoins seem to be a snoar historically (e.g. iceland) , ~nobody (aside from captive audiences) have ~any incentive to actually use'em |
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| 10:32 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-05-18 09:15:55 signpost: http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2017-01-26#1607861 << heh! and meanwhile |
| 10:33 |
asciilifeform |
(safe bet that 'texas au-backed coin' aint gonna be a mined/irreversible-tx/sendable-to-northkorea/etc affair, imho) |
| 10:38 |
asciilifeform |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026194 << the correlation is 1way tho (sorta like how children & 90yo cancer patients have 0 excess fat, but for very diff reasons) |
| 10:38 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-05-18 09:13:52 signpost: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026191 << >> http://logs.bitdash.io/trilema/2017-01-26#1607822 |
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| 12:02 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in misc. lulz. |
| 12:04 |
signpost |
the utter cowardice of denying the possibility of shipping an item which cannot be altered remotely after manufacture. |
| 12:04 |
signpost |
this is why I have a cutoff date for vehicles I'll drive, too. |
| 12:05 |
asciilifeform |
see also |
| 12:05 |
dulapbot |
(asciilifeform) 2022-02-22 asciilifeform: at any rate the net is fulla these spews, 'dontcha know, permanently correct software does not exist, could not exist, because reasons' etc |
| 12:05 |
asciilifeform |
+ recall, 'gotta be updateable, you never know what new key format will be in next year's fashionable lolcat coin' etc |
| 12:06 |
signpost |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026201 << currency rebellion of any kind is interesting from a legal standpoint. |
| 12:06 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-05-18 10:32:37 asciilifeform[5]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026197 << state-sponsored permissionedcoins seem to be a snoar historically (e.g. iceland) , ~nobody (aside from captive audiences) have ~any incentive to actually use'em |
| 12:07 |
signpost |
if there's anything in the states that can be wrenched back from the brink it's increased federalism, but not holding my breath. |
| 12:07 |
asciilifeform |
signpost: imho would be moar credible of a rebellion if they printed paper tx-goldbux , i.e. w/out the 'blockchain flavour' pretense |
| 12:08 |
signpost |
thought I'd read it's meant to be both, but lemme see. |
| 12:09 |
signpost |
that said, yes, every criticism of CDBC applies. |
| 12:09 |
signpost |
https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/SB1558/2023 << here it is. physical gold and silver would become legal tender. |
| 12:10 |
asciilifeform |
afaik to date, state-backed shitcoins have shriveled up & died even faster than ordinary ones |
| 12:10 |
asciilifeform |
( the latter -- are sometimes able to maintain a pretense of decentralization for short while ) |
| 12:11 |
signpost |
in practice the thing will end up being an API for moving db-money at the Texas Bullion Depository |
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| 12:58 |
awt |
http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-18#1026199 << gotta fix the mcrypt bindings - tried - gave up after fixing n + 1 compile errors |
| 12:58 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-05-18 10:30:02 asciilifeform[4]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026192 << what'd be involved in porting the py2 one ? (for that matter, aint there a ffi, and so could drop in a .c) ? |
| 12:58 |
bitbot |
Logged on 2023-05-18 10:30:02 asciilifeform[4]: http://logs.bitdash.io/pest/2023-05-17#1026192 << what'd be involved in porting the py2 one ? (for that matter, aint there a ffi, and so could drop in a .c) ? |
| 12:58 |
awt |
er, mcrypt is here: https://labix.org/python-mcrypt/ |
| 13:02 |
awt |
Might be easier to create new bindings to an existing serpent-only c lib. |
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| 13:50 |
asciilifeform |
awt: could try the 1 from jonsykkel's pestron for this |
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| 16:27 |
unpx |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-03-30#1025789 << I suddenly crave for symbolics genera + concordia |
| 16:27 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2023-03-30 18:52:06 asciilifeform: unpx: well, 'if wishes were horses', wainot 'concordia'. |
| 16:28 |
unpx |
http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2023-05-15#1026566 <<< Unfortunately, this is something I cannot estimate, but looks like some thick one, and I'm trying to trim it |
| 16:29 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2023-05-15 16:14:18 asciilifeform: unpx: possibly, but how much would the 'glue' (to express 1 in terms of the other, or both in terms of an underlying structure) weigh ? |
| 16:31 |
unpx |
I had some funny conversations I'd like to share |
| 16:32 |
unpx |
``The symbol "=<" means "less than or equal" (modulo 2**32).'' tcp rfc As you wish... |
| 16:36 |
unpx |
Second thing is that projects can be seen in a two phase model. The first phase is about building the product following the requirements. The second phase is about understanding the first phase and writing a documentation. But anyone can see that one need documentation before building the product. |
| 16:37 |
unpx |
Thus you either steal a phase two (aka take a standard, implement it, and document why you did so), or you create a prototype, then trash it, write the documentation, and write the product. |
| 16:39 |
unpx |
But I cannot see tools that care about both, they are more about the phase one rather then the phase two. |
| 16:40 |
unpx |
Not only phase two explain the product, but also the process of building, releasing, maintaining the product, and even making a new one. |
| 16:55 |
unpx |
To be clear, phase one is design (and implementation) |
| 17:00 |
unpx |
Pest could implement this method for NAT traversal |
| 17:06 |
unpx |
oh http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/pest/2022-09-19#1013321 |
| 17:06 |
dulapbot |
Logged on 2022-09-19 18:37:49 asciilifeform: see also: this likbez re subj. |
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| 17:29 |
asciilifeform |
unpx: see also in old draft. |