#trilema | 2019-09-04

00:51

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933601 << i agree fwiw. i dun use 'htaccess' on own boxen and don't intend to .

00:51

Logged on 2019-09-03 21:39:00 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933497 << actually I fail to see the merit of sprinkling configuration throughout the filesystem, such that you can't interrogate the whole state of the webserver in a single place.

00:52

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933593 << consider to publish vpatch ?

00:52

Logged on 2019-09-03 21:10:06 trinque: ftr, test bot has been connected continuously in #trinque since the other day, looks nipped

~ 1 hours 29 minutes ~

02:21

feedbot

http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/09/to-ohio-and-back-again-a-photo-journey-with-cat-pics/ << lobbesblog -- To Ohio and back again: a photo journey (with cat pics)

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03:50

\http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/e25cdd47fad095a028165e3b44d5dd85?s=632&d=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D32&r=X << wtf is this then

03:54

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mircea_popescu first read "i hope to share that bedroom with you", was a little scared. then re-read and all was well, sure, let's share all the boredom in the world.

~ 20 minutes ~

04:14

lol, where's that from? looks like shot from "ren and stimpy", old '90s cartoon

~ 18 minutes ~

04:32

spyked, trinque 's avatar

04:33

meanwhile in holy shit breakage : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ contains the pics of my slut, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/letscallhershm.jpg ; they're formatted in the manner trilema formats pictures ; yet mysql can not find any article including it!

04:33

i'm like 99% sure i published this, what the fuck, did some trilema articles vanish ?!

04:34

all this because i'm looking for the footnote with that other slut on high heels butt-smiling at the camera to add to my comment on lobbes' article, though of course i can't find THAT, either.

04:34

one day ima find something and retire.

04:40

and in ongoing regexp lulz : "i am sure it was an image ~in a footnote~" "oh, ok then, WHERE `post_content` LIKE '%((%.jpg%%))%'" "mno, that only looks for pics after a footnote opener and before a footnote closer, not necessarily of the same footnote. it'll include all pics in an article with at least two footnotes, pretty much." "fuck"

~ 24 minutes ~

05:05

neways, ima call it good on steph kegels' excellent library slutout. which, incidentally, is one of the best training videos i know of. chick's got that ATTITUDE.

~ 29 minutes ~

05:34

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933588 << this might work

05:34

Logged on 2019-09-03 20:36:55 asciilifeform: in principle could then have a mircea_popescu-style php reader, and e.g ada bot .

05:34

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933586 << in any case disintegration is probably the road towards manageability of software

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05:34

Logged on 2019-09-03 20:34:57 asciilifeform: i actually did very similar thing in phuctor ( the 'werker', c proggy that uses multiple cpu ) as of '16 does not need to know about pg, it talks to the frontend via ordinary http

05:36

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933597 << fwis most people do this, 5 to 15 years in.

05:36

Logged on 2019-09-03 21:34:37 trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-09-03#1933478 << recently I torched my whole wad of elisp, got fed up with setting the dials on someone else's machine "just so" and calling the "just so" mine.

05:36

imo this makes emacs/elisp a poisonous pitfall, but not quite confident enough yet to make much noise about it.

05:37

nevertheless, in a very theoretical principled view of the matter, "everyone drops it after sinking work into it for years" is a fine definition of evil.

05:38

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933611 << trilema uses it plenty ; file's like 50 lines

05:38

Logged on 2019-09-04 00:51:38 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933601 << i agree fwiw. i dun use 'htaccess' on own boxen and don't intend to .

05:38

url rewriting and whatnot.

05:40

this, incidentally, is the important part here. rewriting (as the math concept) is an important (really, the only) function of the numeric machines we have. ~only utility. and .htaccess kludge is an ad-hoc but well specified rewrite engine for the assorted glue (ad hoc and unspecified) needed to www.

05:40

if calling an url is compilation htaccess does the preprocessing

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08:44

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933393 <-- no headbashing involved, man asked a legit q about ircbot (which still runs some of the bots here) and I answered the best I can

08:44

Logged on 2019-09-03 10:33:21 asciilifeform: ^ not only worx, but i posted not only proggy, but full explanation of algo, here. and yet folx ~still~ bashing heads over 'pinger threads' and other ???! epicycles?!

08:48

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933417 <-- afaik sardinian close as well, possibly even closer. some ppl say romansch also, but I listened to some and only got about 20% of it.

08:48

Logged on 2019-09-03 14:01:17 asciilifeform: strangely sicilian seems almost plug-compatible with ro (sorta like those old sovok rocket connectors, 'only gotta hammer it once and the pins will bend...' )

08:53

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933398 <-- lol, I thought it had went down again when I saw this, got me alarmed there for a moment.

08:53

Logged on 2019-09-03 13:08:20 diana_coman: aww, feedbot can't seem to keep up with the pace of trilema comments, lol

08:57

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933426 <-- speaking of which, I notice there's a feed in there, btcalpha.com, which consistently clogs up the bot. I'm guessing the site it points to is long dead, shall I remove it?

08:57

Logged on 2019-09-03 14:06:42 mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ti4kZ/?raw=true << feedbot scrollback, keks

09:02

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933632 <-- I've found emacs useful for exactly one thing over the years: plugging "w3m" browser into it, which aids copy-pasting lines and posting comments on blogs when in terminal. other than that, /me also stopped chasing this particular wild goose about a year ago

09:02

Logged on 2019-09-04 05:52:04 mircea_popescu: imo this makes emacs/elisp a poisonous pitfall, but not quite confident enough yet to make much noise about it.

09:03

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933613 <-- ftr, this is also on my list if trinque doesn't get to it first.

09:03

Logged on 2019-09-04 01:08:06 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933593 << consider to publish vpatch ?

09:03

Logged on 2019-09-03 21:10:06 trinque: ftr, test bot has been connected continuously in #trinque since the other day, looks nipped

~ 1 hours 7 minutes ~

10:10

spyked, yeah, that was mikec

10:10

actually, let's see the list of feeds you got, prolly time for a review

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11:15

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933610 << bvt i will comment on this when i get a chance to eat it properly

11:15

Logged on 2019-09-04 00:38:55 feedbot: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/09/linux-kernel-genesis-and-early-entropy-users/ << bvt's backtrace -- Linux kernel: genesis and early entropy users

11:16

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933621 << it isn't impossible, iirc mircea_popescu had a sql oops coupla yrs ago (but i thought was fully restored?)

11:16

Logged on 2019-09-04 04:33:18 mircea_popescu: i'm like 99% sure i published this, what the fuck, did some trilema articles vanish ?!

11:17

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933626 << can't think of why it wouldn't work; but you would get tight coupling (i.e. suddenly possible for logger to miss lines if www serv is overwhelmed , or lagging, or otherwise inoperable )

11:17

Logged on 2019-09-04 05:34:02 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933588 << this might work

11:18

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933630 << 1st time i hear of such a thing. trinque what are you using instead nao ?

11:18

Logged on 2019-09-04 05:36:07 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933597 << fwis most people do this, 5 to 15 years in.

11:18

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933632 << i'ma move from emacs to 21st c. lispm. or, to grave. tertium non datur.

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11:18

Logged on 2019-09-04 05:36:32 mircea_popescu: imo this makes emacs/elisp a poisonous pitfall, but not quite confident enough yet to make much noise about it.

11:19

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933638 << i know how it is used; but imho it is 'naggum's bulldozer'. i.e. solved problems that ought not to occur to begin with

11:19

Logged on 2019-09-04 05:40:36 mircea_popescu: if calling an url is compilation htaccess does the preprocessing

11:20

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933645 << dead as of '16 iirc

11:20

Logged on 2019-09-04 08:57:46 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933426 <-- speaking of which, I notice there's a feed in there, btcalpha.com, which consistently clogs up the bot. I'm guessing the site it points to is long dead, shall I remove it?

11:20

Logged on 2019-09-03 14:06:42 mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Ti4kZ/?raw=true << feedbot scrollback, keks

11:21

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933628 << exactly why i split the logotron kit into standalone parts.

11:21

Logged on 2019-09-04 05:34:47 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933586 << in any case disintegration is probably the road towards manageability of software

11:22

btw iirc lobbes has an experimental ver w/ sqlite.

11:25

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asciilifeform brb:teatime

~ 55 minutes ~

12:20

diana_coman: logotron page updated with your seals and link to your recipe !

12:21

diana_coman: thank you for reading, signing, baking mirror, writing cookbook; a+++

12:22

asciilifeform: nice, thank you!

12:23

and incidentally diana_coman is the all-time champ for 'read & eat asciilifeform's worx' atm !

12:23

heh, I can recommend this sort of eating - keeps one lean and alert!!

12:26

hm lobbes did i leave out your sig ? i could've sworn there was one. plox to link if so.

12:35

http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933653 <-- dun dun dun! --> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/hSKfI/?raw=true

12:35

Logged on 2019-09-04 10:26:15 mircea_popescu: actually, let's see the list of feeds you got, prolly time for a review

12:35

huh, I don't even recall what fr.anco.is was

12:35

davout

12:36

yes, just saw it; with last post in Jan 2017.

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spyked bbl, publishing this month's report and then out to meat chores

12:36

davout went awol 2+ y ago iirc. (though his site, like e.g that of esthlos , still up )

12:37

ben_vulpes also last post 1+y ago

12:37

phf's -- nov. '18

12:38

jurov's -- feb of '19

12:38

mocky's -- ditto

12:39

mikec has been dead for the entirety of 'era 2' .

12:39

spyked: errybody else on the list, is actively alive.

12:40

( the only stone-dead link, is mikec )

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13:03

feedbot

http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/09e-tmsr-work-v.html << The Tar Pit -- TMSR work: plan for 2019 M9, and a very brief discussion

13:05

spyked: 'I still haven't genesized The Tar Pit; by the way, is there anyone else out there interested in using it?' << me. i'ma be moving my www and quite interested in all approaches to de-php-izing . and you have imho a++ visual coat on yours.

13:06

( would need at least the comment knob tho, as i understand it is presently missing )

13:10

spyked, wow look at that. okay, so btcalpha, anco.is, esthlos.com can all come off.

13:11

!q s barksinthewind

13:11

48 results for "barksinthewind" in #trilema

13:11

!q help

13:11

mircea_popescu: my valid commands are: seen, s, src, help, uptime

13:12

so long ago i even forgot who the fuck it was

13:12

spyked, barksinthewind.com too

13:14

jurov, you intend to start blogging or taking that off also ?

~ 33 minutes ~

13:47

jurov

mircea_popescu: not anytime soon

13:57

mircea_popescu: did anyone ever find out where esthlos went ?

~ 27 minutes ~

14:24

meanwhile: BingoBoingo : 1st crate of rk's is here.

14:24

asciilifeform, nope

14:24

asciilifeform: ty for the update

14:24

spyked, explo.yt off the list also thus

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14:53

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933619 << yep, ren of ren&stimpy fame, from the Space Madness episode

14:53

Logged on 2019-09-04 04:32:57 mircea_popescu: spyked, trinque 's avatar

14:54

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933649 << patch is already in my hopper, just watching the testbot for a day or two longer. still connected btw.

14:54

Logged on 2019-09-04 09:03:11 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933613 <-- ftr, this is also on my list if trinque doesn't get to it first.

14:54

Logged on 2019-09-04 01:08:06 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933593 << consider to publish vpatch ?

14:54

Logged on 2019-09-03 21:10:06 trinque: ftr, test bot has been connected continuously in #trinque since the other day, looks nipped

14:55

^ possibly want to ignore /log/$knownChan instead of domain-prefixed

14:56

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933660 << still emacs+exwm, just with init.el of maybe 100-200 lines

14:56

Logged on 2019-09-04 11:18:03 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933630 << 1st time i hear of such a thing. trinque what are you using instead nao ?

14:56

not using it for irc, mail, teledildonics

14:56

trinque: aa, so you jettisoned some scriptolade, rather than emacs per se. i misread.

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asciilifeform cleans his erry yr or so

14:57

yeah, trying to avoid the "chairs stacked just so" life

14:57

imho there's pretty wide spectrum b/w 'knife sharpened just-so' and 'chairs stacked just-so'

15:00

oblig. old lolcat re subj.

15:04

http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933716 << ignore where ?

15:04

Logged on 2019-09-04 14:55:03 trinque: ^ possibly want to ignore /log/$knownChan instead of domain-prefixed

15:05

the bots are triggering each other on logline quotes

15:06

trinque: per mircea_popescu's spec, it aint a bug. ( and to switch it off, imho The Right Thing is simply to look against list of bots )

15:06

the logotron kit takes list of known bots (past, present) in config , already, for the www displayer

15:12

re emacs scriptolade -- really gotta keep it clean, for, if nuffin else -- the fact that it uses a 1970s style lisp where 'stop-the-world gc' is in use , not really meant for heaviweight programmatism

15:13

trinque: do you know, perchance, whatever happened to the 'climacs' people ?

15:13

was gabriel_laddel the last 1 of these alive ?

15:14

'climacs' seems to be one of those 'cursed' items where errybody who touches it ends up lost to madness

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15:49

no idea; my only real brush with them was gl

15:51

imho impolite that he didn't even post a picture of a stump before leaving

16:06

trinque: possibly simply died

~ 47 minutes ~

16:53

BingoBoingo: all 16 rk's are here nao.

16:53

asciilifeform: Very nice! Let the assembling commence!

16:54

BingoBoingo: ps not in yet .

16:54

expected in ~week .

16:54

Well, at least things are in places

16:55

BingoBoingo: thing will run on a conventional atx (1u) ps , incidentally.

16:55

nice

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18:35

feedbot

http://qntra.net/2019/09/illinois-police-department-child-groomer-arrested-for-child-porn/ << Qntra -- Illinois: Police Department Child Groomer Arrested For Child Porn

18:49

In other news, it looks like Europe and North America can get back to fake "plastic recyling" exports: "El cambio que el líder PRO imprimió a la vieja orden Nº 181/1992, que por entonces habilitaba a la importación de basura de otros países y que generó un escándalo por la aparición de residuos nucleares en el gobierno de Menem, pasó tan solo por un artículo: según trabajadores de la Economía Popular y ambient

18:49

alistas, la modificación “flexibiliza el debido control ecológico”, librando a la Argentina a transformarse en un país receptor de basura peligrosa como la nuclear, proveniente de Europa y otras regiones."

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20:26

BingoBoingo: update : turns out the particular iron dun weld very well. i'ma use pneumatic riveter like normal people, with these.

20:27

asciilifeform: aite

20:27

it's how traditional pc chassis gets its mb legs. so imho oughta suffice.

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asciilifeform for next go-around , perhaps will get sheet metal bending machine and may as well make the 1u cages from sheets also.

20:31

BingoBoingo: the off-the-shelf selection for these is annoyingly limited (and expensive) imho

20:32

in the early days, iirc mircea_popescu scoffed that 'spending fat dough to fly steel sheets' but they're in fact the magick ingredient that gets the internals through orc customs .

20:34

Just remember the tolerances for fitting 1U case in rack isn't too forgiving.

20:34

indeed

20:35

tho 'short' is generally curable

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