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01:15 billymg http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-14#1928713 << gave it a quick read, this should be enough for me to continue with writing the tests. i might have questions later as i make progress, will leave comments on the post if so
01:15 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-14 13:27:55 mp_en_viaje: billymg, http://trilema.com/2019/what-is-a-blog-complete-spec-inside/
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04:46 mp_en_viaje !!up diana_alt
04:46 deedbot diana_alt voiced for 30 minutes.
04:46 mp_en_viaje billymg, works. amusingly enough, as far as i currently know that list is ~completr~. can use it to cut against!
04:47 mp_en_viaje i might end up discovering you cut too much, but what's the big deal, original still remains, can be easily fixed, and we learn thingsfor the money.
~ 24 minutes ~
05:12 mp_en_viaje meanwhile in continuing lulz, http://www.suck-o.com/
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10:22 mp_en_viaje fucking endearing : "Most users ever online was 15 on 05 Jul 2010, 11:30" ; meanwhile Design and Program a Computer.
10:34 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: link gives only login prompt
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10:53 mp_en_viaje lmao tards.
10:54 mp_en_viaje http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/fZkJM/?raw=true << dump
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11:14 asciilifeform loox like a schoolboy site of the '90s style ( 'learn haxxing! phreaking!' ) and dusty.
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11:16 asciilifeform lemme guess, it came to mp_en_viaje in a spam ?
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12:16 asciilifeform meanwhile - in lulzmoments from neighbouring castles
12:16 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-15 12:11:56 shrysr: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/ossasepia/2019-08-15#1000191 That was a disgustingly fleshed out, but weirdly instructive story which made me laugh (a bit) and cringe (a lot). I'm not sure if I'll eat anything for awhile, but I get what you meant. That being said, - I can't think of any non-docker solution to a reproducible environment other than creating a 'frozen version', preferably under version
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14:05 asciilifeform lobbes, mp_en_viaje , et al : strangely, having problem reproducing the unibarf discovered by lobbes . pasting the text from the barf samples into test chan, doesn't produce the expected barf, it gets eaten normally
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14:06 asciilifeform lobbes: would it be difficult to park lobbesbot temporarily in #asciilifeform-test ?
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14:23 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/08/british-gibraltar-releases-iranian-tanker-over-us-objections/ << Qntra -- British Gibraltar Releases Iranian Tanker Over US Objections
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14:55 feedbot http://qntra.net/2019/08/six-cops-attempting-to-invade-philadelphia-home-shot-by-lone-defender/ << Qntra -- Six Cops Attempting To Invade Philadelphia Home Shot By Lone Defender
14:56 asciilifeform lol!! sumbody give this fella 'order of lenin'
15:00 BingoBoingo It amazes me how many "Anti-socialist" alt-alt rags are pointedly NOT highlighting Black American Patriot Maurice Hill as a warrior against the state
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15:01 asciilifeform whoknows, maybe ashamed, fella apparently not master marksman, all the targets lived ?
15:02 BingoBoingo Well, wounded more expensive than the dead
15:03 asciilifeform i picture would depend on where wounded
15:03 BingoBoingo Well, at least one in head
15:04 BingoBoingo Also the dead don't need 100 USD aspirins etc
15:04 asciilifeform tru. ( tho iirc they get widow pensions, etc. also adding up to pretty penny )
15:06 BingoBoingo Can Philadelphia cops afford marriage while living to leave widows?
15:06 asciilifeform previous newswanks suggest that they can.
15:08 BingoBoingo It's also not like the wounded don't get disability pensions, often concurrent with ongoing paycheck.
15:08 asciilifeform this is a point.
15:09 BingoBoingo Kinda why Dependapotomi pick the targets they do.
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15:34 lobbes http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928943 << parked
15:34 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-15 14:06:22 asciilifeform: lobbes: would it be difficult to park lobbesbot temporarily in #asciilifeform-test ?
15:37 asciilifeform ty lobbes !
15:42 BingoBoingo !Xbuy 283mn 26 2835 WFF, Wire Only
15:42 auctionbot Buy order # 1052 created by BingoBoingo: 2835 WFF, Wire Only Opening: 283mn ecu Ending: 2019-08-16 09:10:50.807867 UTC (25 hours)
15:42 BingoBoingo !Xbuy 51mn 26 500 WFF, WU esta bien
15:42 auctionbot Buy order # 1053 created by BingoBoingo: 500 WFF, WU esta bien Opening: 51mn ecu Ending: 2019-08-16 09:10:59.183107 UTC (25 hours)
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20:31 asciilifeform meanwhile, update re unitardation -- phf's pill doesn't cure -- decoder successfully falls back to 'latin-1', if set up as described, and dun barf ; but ~encoder~ barfs in pg ( cur.execute(query, args) )
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20:31 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-14 07:42:01 phf: i even explain how to do it in python http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-21#1546421
20:34 asciilifeform atm it aint even clear to asciilifeform that it is possible to store >1 encoding in a given pg
20:35 asciilifeform or for that matter why a x = foo.decode('latin-1') even can result in a x that later chokes pg when x.encode('utf-8') is put into a sqlism
20:36 asciilifeform or, moreover, whythefuck pg even gives half a shit re how the txt is encoded.
20:36 asciilifeform infuriating liquishit, this entire stack.
20:47 * asciilifeform dug on www, found 9000+ folx with same barf, but nuffin resembling a pill
20:50 asciilifeform before anyone suggests 'store'em in pg as bins, not text' -- nope, cuz you can't index for text search on bins
20:52 asciilifeform current variant (w/ phf's non-curative decode-fallback).
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21:12 * asciilifeform burned entire evening on this, and is no closer to a ~lead~ to a solution (not even speaking of actual solution) than before.
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21:16 asciilifeform ~pasting~ e.g. '2000000 ÷ (154 × 1088 × 1.25) = 9.549274255x' dun trigger the barfolade, btw. cuz on civilized box, lobbes's txt is ALREADY utf8 when yer viewing it. only triggering lobbes's echo , where it pisses the malcoded garbage straight into irc, triggers.
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21:16 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-14 22:26:42 lobbes: and for good measure, the original list with loglines
21:19 asciilifeform why the fuck is this even a good idea ? to support arbitrary liquishit in logs ? imho the Right Thing would be 'if you want yer logs imported or echoed, put'em into utf8 or stuff up arse' .
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21:21 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928976 << see, worx
21:21 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-15 21:16:03 asciilifeform: ~pasting~ e.g. '2000000 ÷ (154 × 1088 × 1.25) = 9.549274255x' dun trigger the barfolade, btw. cuz on civilized box, lobbes's txt is ALREADY utf8 when yer viewing it. only triggering lobbes's echo , where it pisses the malcoded garbage straight into irc, triggers.
21:23 asciilifeform 'I mean literally, the guy's from Washitistan, they write things with their own excrement there, and the Unicode Foundation introduced actual excrement in the standard so now whenever someone asks for the networking code in your project they are delivered physical faeces on cardboard. About fifty eight acres of it. Where would you like this put, sir ?' (tm)(r)(mp)
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21:27 asciilifeform unless someone supplies, in next coupla days, a simple AND WORKING pill, i'ma do this : anything coming into the bot that dun decode cleanly as utf8, will have the offending chars (i.e. any with 8th bit set) replaced with that glyph that depicts a steaming pile of shit.
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21:28 asciilifeform and whoever doesn't like it, can write own logger. and if mp_en_viaje wants to tear off my epaulettes and make own logger in cobol, he can.
21:34 asciilifeform there exist, incidentally, at least a dozen liquishit encodings that aint either ascii or utf8. and SOMEBODY's terminal supports'em. but imho the fact that fleanode actually eats and relays these, is a bug! of fleanode.
21:34 snsabot Logged on 2018-02-02 11:23:06 asciilifeform: the 'postel's law' nonsense, of silently forgiving people who send liquishit at the dusty disused corners of the protocol, enabling there to even ~be~ such a thing as dusty corners in a protocol!, MUST die.
21:40 asciilifeform grudgingly i built in utf8 so that can say кто ты по жизни and τὰ γὰρ ὀψώνια τῆς ἁμαρτίας θάνατος etc. but , for all that has been said re utf8, it is at least supported by postgres . whereas i am not about to spend rest of life trying to write 'dwim ai' to eat erry possible microshit encoding that someone may have at whatever point excreted .
21:46 asciilifeform let the people who smeared the 58 acres of shit on cardboard, stuffed it into their modem, and sent it to fleanode, clean it up.
21:48 asciilifeform and if someone wants to write 100,000 lines of shitython to write 'dwim', let him fucking scroll to the bottom of the log page, click 'get source', grab the fucking vtree, and write.
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22:21 asciilifeform btw just as i thought, lobbes's searchtron fails if fed the liquishit in question.
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22:23 * asciilifeform bbl,meat
22:29 lobbes http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-15#1928982 << I personally dun have any issue with this, but that is just me. Any yeah, not like someone down the line can't make a vpatch for a pill
22:29 snsabot Logged on 2019-08-15 21:27:38 asciilifeform: unless someone supplies, in next coupla days, a simple AND WORKING pill, i'ma do this : anything coming into the bot that dun decode cleanly as utf8, will have the offending chars (i.e. any with 8th bit set) replaced with that glyph that depicts a steaming pile of shit.
22:29 lobbes In either case, I'll be spending some time this evening working on genesis-ing my own current #e logotron. If anything just for posterity
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