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01:45 mp_en_viaje BingoBoingo, you know, i was thinking... since i have all these trilema.org etc not presently used, might as well get a pizarro box set up trilema replication. do you actually have one ?
01:47 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, naive q : is there a way to trade footprint for speed, by keeping tlb count of instances, and executing instructions in "paralel" by piping them to each instance according to tlb layout ?
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01:49 mp_en_viaje so you'd never run ONE M but (i'm guessing) always 17 at a time
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02:12 mp_en_viaje meanwhile in "webforums, by retards, for retards" https://ibb.co/pZmPzqG
~ 49 minutes ~
03:01 diana_coman BingoBoingo: the mp-wp on younghands.club seems to be still stripping all tags; is it deployed without the patch or what?
03:12 diana_coman myeah, so it was; BingoBoingo update your scripts or something, what's the point in deploying it with a known bug??
03:15 mp_en_viaje weird, feedbot read in #eulora but not here.
03:15 mp_en_viaje o look, it's unvoiced!
03:26 spyked many apologies for the prolonged feedbot downtime yesterday; I had to go offline the whole day on meat business and working through this week's hunchentoot layer-peeling
03:27 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, you sound like you're having fun, lol
03:27 spyked the bot will spit all the missing lines as soon as it gets voiced. meanwhile, deedbot seems down?
03:27 mp_en_viaje spyked, we got one helluva tower of chairs going here!
03:28 mp_en_viaje check out the kaibosh on diana_coman : she wrote an article, and published JUST AS feedbot got dropped ; it rejoined, and it'll announce just as... deedbot comes back to voice it.
03:28 mp_en_viaje someone's back there with the voodoo dolls and spikes to the mouth!
03:28 diana_coman mp_en_viaje: din categoria daca-i ordin, cu placere, acolo.
03:29 diana_coman ha, the bots don't like euloran graphics!!
03:30 spyked trinque, could you pl0x share the ircbot auto-reconnect code that you're testing? I wanna give it a spin myself and give some time to ironing out whatever problems I might find.
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03:43 mp_en_viaje http://ossasepia.com/2019/07/24/naked-models-notes-on-graphics-in-eulora-iv/comment-page-1/#comment-6235 in other meanwhiles.
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04:02 mp_en_viaje in other lulzies : /me has taken patreon's db (annoying fucks from the fetlife/linkedin/etc school of "inaccessible data", there's for instance no list of users on their website. because they expect your only knowledge of their thing to come from a user that contacted you [somehow].)
04:02 mp_en_viaje because obviously, webchumpatron problems, tryna plug the value leaks, they figure if they misrepresent wanna-be-platform.com as a sort inca, sitting mysterious and unreachable on the top, and then let the wanna-be-platform.com/random-dorks do the work, then thereby... who kn
04:02 mp_en_viaje ows, maybe this time the value extraction actually works ?!
04:02 mp_en_viaje whether it works or doesn't ima still take everything they have any time i feel like, as a matter of course. because that's the hierarchy, republic owns empire-anything, no possible question about it.
04:02 mp_en_viaje what there is a question about is whether there's actually any value in there, or am i just taking by republican priviledge a buncha 5yos chests full of rotten chocolate golden coins / self-drawn stock certificates / large sums of monyz written in crayon etc.
04:02 mp_en_viaje so, given that cat patreon.sql | wc -w yields 692469510, anyone wanna register bets as to how many artists are gonna be smarter than an obnoxious cocksucker, and actually take the deal trudy famously didn't
04:02 a111 Logged on 2013-12-03 20:08 mircea_popescu: fucking artists with their complicated shoes. impossible to get a hold of.
04:02 mp_en_viaje (and midnight_on_mars ineptly didn't, and so on the list -- as usually to their detriment, of course, but what fucking detriment can accrue to nobody-on-a-ramen-stick) ?
04:02 a111 Logged on 2018-11-30 17:48 mircea_popescu: i kept trying to get a comic going, oglaf chick wouldn't do it, that midnight_on_mars dood with the http://pictures.hentai-foundry.com/m/MidnightonMars/435591/MidnightonMars-435591-Secret_Obsession_-_Overwatch.jpg too fucktarded to communicate...
04:03 mp_en_viaje subsidiarily, i suppose, anyone got some really good idea of art-promoting-the-republic, or whatever.
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08:07 asciilifeform meanwhile, next rev.'s dhrystone ( vs. prev.'s )
08:07 a111 Logged on 2019-07-24 13:27 asciilifeform: meanwhile, overnight dhrystone .
08:09 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-25#1924597 << closest thing to this would be where you actually emulate the traditional mips pipeline and have a thread per stage (e.g. inst decode, fetch, execute ) but this would be, if you think about it , ~even worse~ than current, tie up 5 cpu cores to emulate 1 little mips...
08:09 a111 Logged on 2019-07-25 05:47 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, naive q : is there a way to trade footprint for speed, by keeping tlb count of instances, and executing instructions in "paralel" by piping them to each instance according to tlb layout ?
08:09 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, no, i actually mean parallelize execution
08:10 mp_en_viaje i suppose in the end i;m just trying to rebuild the multi-layered cache and prefetch intel pipe in software.
08:10 asciilifeform right, but how wouldja parallelize w/out typing up >1 pc cpu
08:10 * mp_en_viaje abandons this line of inquiry.
08:11 asciilifeform btw thing already sometimes spills into 2 cpu (there are slave threads for uart and clock)
08:11 asciilifeform ( typically '101% cpu' when at full throttle )
08:12 asciilifeform ( would still run on a 1cpu box, with slight penalty, tho, cuz unix scheduler )
08:23 mp_en_viaje holy shit patreon is fucking stupid.
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08:44 mp_en_viaje so out of 22558500 supposed users, about 21.7mn (>96%) are name-only. of the remainder a similar proportion have one or more links to "social media" (mostly, youtube channels) that similarly exist in name only. of the remainder 30k or so, the VAST majority are incredibly gossipy idiots droning on and on about what some other "opposing" faction said on $socialmedia$ and THEREFORE CLEARLY etc. "so and so was suspicious
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08:44 mp_en_viaje ly silent on thus and so non-event therefore incomprehensible implication of no consequence".
08:44 mp_en_viaje there's maybe a thousand or two actual whores working it as an escort service, and a few hundred deeply deranged individuals (hey, would yu like to buy a "hypnosis game" that "makes you" transsexual ? works on windows only)
08:44 mp_en_viaje and... that's fuckng it.
08:46 asciilifeform '... "hypnosis game" that "makes you" transsexual ?' << recall the 1990s idjits with 'audio drug' ?
08:48 asciilifeform ( was mega-fad in msdos days -- proggy that prompts 'which dope', you select one, and then listen to 'hypnotic' squeals from headphone )
08:57 mp_en_viaje oh, there's actually some pretty lulzy ammo re ye olde drugs discussion : they have here idiots who "audify" "problems" as a... i dunno, means to solve them.
08:58 mp_en_viaje the logic transparently being that if drugs help you solve problems and audio drugs are drugs, therefore "listening" to "audification" of prpoblem...
08:58 asciilifeform does it involve ear-wilting whine in headphone ?
08:58 mp_en_viaje i did not actually play the shit.
08:58 mp_en_viaje can prolly fish it out again if you must.
08:59 asciilifeform at one pt i experimented with, among other lulz, playing suspect-rng via headphone , to find regularities
08:59 asciilifeform but i suspect this aint what these had in mind
08:59 mp_en_viaje worst bandwidth fucking process available ; and most filtered too.
08:59 mp_en_viaje well, technically i suppose a rectothermalizer would be even worse, higher inertia.
08:59 asciilifeform pretty atrocious, yes. ye olde 'ulam's spiral' worx 9000x better -- eyes
09:00 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: possibly surprisingly, there ~were~ braille displays which worked via heated pins
09:01 asciilifeform ( but i suspect they 'cheated', cuz thermal expansion, can feel as pressure )
09:01 mp_en_viaje many blind people are actually slightly visual in lower range tho
09:01 asciilifeform rright but this was a thing one put finger on, covering the hole
09:01 mp_en_viaje a
09:02 asciilifeform iirc mp_en_viaje actually wrote about this
09:02 mp_en_viaje i did ?
09:02 mp_en_viaje doesn't immediately come to mind
09:02 asciilifeform hm. then nfi where saw.
09:03 asciilifeform re 'patreon', i kept waiting for the mention of the most famous lolcow parked there, but since no one did : esr
09:03 asciilifeform apparently after his 'reverse gear' 'surprised by wealth' he opened acct there. and claims to get thou's in beggolade.
09:05 asciilifeform ( whether imaginary; or his handlers pay him this way; or actual chumpers from the wild, pay -- i have nfi )
09:07 asciilifeform from horse's mouth
09:07 asciilifeform claims '226 PATRONS $2,339 PER MONTH'
09:10 mp_en_viaje amusingly, this likely means i have the man's address, bank details, tax form thingee etc.
09:10 asciilifeform not as if these are mega-seekrit even w/out
09:11 asciilifeform why, did patreon's db leak out ?
09:12 mp_en_viaje nfi who'd begruge an old man his 28k/year job
09:13 asciilifeform lol job
09:14 mp_en_viaje this item is mostly makework, you realise that ?
09:15 asciilifeform i thought it were an automated begging thing
09:15 asciilifeform 'put money in this here hat plz'
09:17 * asciilifeform not , admittedly, master beggar, perhaps not qual'd to discuss. had even 'paypal' beggatron on www, in '07 or sumsuch, netted not 1 cent. then later replaced with btc addr, and one time someone sent entire coin ! and to this day occasionally nanobtc etc
09:19 asciilifeform effective begging, as i understand, is a whoring/performance art, like street singing, takes dedication an' energy
09:22 mp_en_viaje not really, they mostly exist as an extension of the 2000s "traffic analytics expert" thing
09:22 mp_en_viaje it's a way for the "requirerment satisfiers" to spend a whole day not doing anything but nevertheless seeming like they worked to the "you can't accuse him of not working" standard.
09:23 mp_en_viaje in ro there is this "teoria chibritului" thing, "a match is composed of three parts : the top part of the match, the middle part of the match, and the bottom part of the match. the top part of the match is in turn composed of three parts : the top part of the top part of the match, the middle part of the top part of the match, and the bottom part of the top part of the match. the middle part of the match..."
09:24 mp_en_viaje then someone can spend most of the day checking whether you didn't accidentally a top for a middle somewhere...
09:24 asciilifeform possibly i'm thick, but how does this work ? from surface , loox like thing where e.g. esr puts acct and then gets 'donation button' for his www, and idjits push, etc
09:24 mp_en_viaje when we were kids it was a joke, but now it's pretty much all of legal practice, civil service, academia, homework, etcetera.
09:25 asciilifeform lol zeno's match
09:25 mp_en_viaje "how does it work". how does "traffic analytics" work ? "oh, you gotta DEFINE x y and z, then acquire "data" about them, then COMPARE it".
09:25 mp_en_viaje can spend a whole fucking day match-theorizing.
09:25 mp_en_viaje same principle throughout, "gotta declare goals", whatever
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09:26 mp_en_viaje #makework
09:26 asciilifeform i thought the 'goals' crapola was in 'kickstarter' et al
09:26 mp_en_viaje consider how your hosting works : "gotta upgrade".
09:26 mp_en_viaje do you see the similarity ?
09:26 asciilifeform afaik 'patreon' just has a bin where people invited to throw money
09:27 mp_en_viaje afayk, nfs is "just hosts". the problem with your view is that it doesnt exist.
09:28 asciilifeform reminds me, gotta get the replacement swapped in, thing could burn out literally any min.
09:30 * asciilifeform fully backed up
09:31 asciilifeform interestingly, i ran the #s, nfs's thing is no longer so cheap as in olden days, costs asciilifeform almost a thou./yr (us)
09:31 mp_en_viaje Eric Raymond Ausley ?
09:33 asciilifeform dunthinkso, the famous judas is eric s. raymond
09:33 mp_en_viaje o look, they actually entirely different dood
09:33 asciilifeform err eric s. raymond
09:35 mp_en_viaje ie userid 962938, in more practical terms
09:38 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/pPkW3/?raw=true
09:38 mp_en_viaje aparently, 2048 rsa
09:40 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, HA! check this out : Loadsharers is a social network that has agreed to fund LBIPs through remittance services like Patreon, SubscribeStar, Liberapay, and PayPal. Loadsharers take the following pledge: "While I am gainfully employed, I will remit at least $30 a month to one, two, or three LBIPs, preferably 3."
09:41 mp_en_viaje see ? EXACTLY http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-25#1924685
09:41 a111 Logged on 2019-07-25 13:25 mp_en_viaje: same principle throughout, "gotta declare goals", whatever
09:41 mp_en_viaje dude's come up with a half-assed, buggy TMSR implementation out of chewing gum and pocket lint. and that TOOK TIME.
09:42 mp_en_viaje https://esr.gitlab.io/loadsharers/ << straight up shanonization, even.
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10:08 mp_en_viaje meanwhile in "things you might've not known about", https://rule34.xxx/index.php
10:13 mp_en_viaje interesting tidbits (from an anthropological perspective what i'd call "super-real", ie, things people actually said that are closer to being the blueprint of the subculture rather than mere phenomena) : "Discord You can find our official discord chat here: Moved away from IRC, it was not used anyway."
10:13 mp_en_viaje why the fuck would anyone prefer audio channel to irc is anyone's guess. here's mine : speaking takes less thought than writing / unit time.
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10:14 mp_en_viaje 2. "Hiya, just looking for some fun with new faces in the usual sorta way." << if this isn't the whole mating game...
10:28 asciilifeform lol seems like they came up with buggy reimplementation of catholic church's tithe, rather than tmsr
10:29 asciilifeform audio channel << recall we had some d00d who drummed out and then reportedly turned up in some audio-powered snakepit
10:30 asciilifeform ( iirc thickasthieves )
10:35 mp_en_viaje vaguely.
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12:13 BingoBoingo diana_coman: I'll get to pressing an updated mp-wp
12:14 BingoBoingo mp_en_viaje: We have a vacant Rockchip
12:14 mp_en_viaje nah, i think i need a proper box
12:14 mp_en_viaje i mean, just the images are like 10gb
12:14 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: rk is imho a proper box. 128GB storage, GB/s nic
12:15 asciilifeform would be pretty good torture test of it
12:15 mp_en_viaje hm
12:15 * asciilifeform would really like to see how it behaves under troo honest load
12:15 mp_en_viaje i dunno it'd necessarily get loaded as much, i mean who even loads trilema.org atm for instance ?
12:16 BingoBoingo I suspect where replicated trilema would hit its head on Rockchips is the MySQL database
12:16 mp_en_viaje would it ?
12:16 asciilifeform can't picture why
12:16 mp_en_viaje it's not ~that~ large a db, bout 100mb or so
12:16 asciilifeform diana_coman's box so far seems to soldier on w/out issue
12:17 mp_en_viaje anyways, today ima be travelling, but we'll get back to this
12:17 asciilifeform happy travels, mp_en_viaje
12:18 BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-25#1924636 << Patreon seems to overlap ~93% with the incel crowd
12:18 a111 Logged on 2019-07-25 12:44 mp_en_viaje: so out of 22558500 supposed users, about 21.7mn (>96%) are name-only. of the remainder a similar proportion have one or more links to "social media" (mostly, youtube channels) that similarly exist in name only. of the remainder 30k or so, the VAST majority are incredibly gossipy idiots droning on and on about what some other "opposing" faction said on $socialmedia$ and THEREFORE CLEARLY etc. "so and so was suspicious
12:19 mp_en_viaje i think by now the internet does.
12:22 BingoBoingo There's the girls that could be whoring instead selling almost naked pics (because the audience can't handle actually naked). games that aren't games but "visual novels", erotica by and for people who've never had anything erotic in their lives, etc
12:22 mp_en_viaje aha.
12:22 BingoBoingo We're going to need a lot of reddit bags
12:22 mp_en_viaje actually, those girls make ok whore fodder, will fly if you buy their ticket, will swallow it if you feed them etc.
12:23 mp_en_viaje kinda moral duty to pick one or a few up an' warehouse 'em in preference of some insufferable princess.
12:23 BingoBoingo mp_en_viaje: I don't doubt it. Probably have to get past the self defense mechanisms they've developed against their own usual audience
12:24 mp_en_viaje it's why you keep a blog.
12:24 BingoBoingo AHA
12:25 mp_en_viaje "here's a bunch of others just like you" is the #1 sales pitch for females. "how bad could it be, rite"
12:26 BingoBoingo Then the baby turtles and duckling just sweeten the deal
12:27 BingoBoingo As to why "visual novels" over actual games there's something called Renpy that has the code done already so they just need their rendered in a game engine pictures and awful text content https://archive.is/1ryVd
12:28 BingoBoingo We're going to need a lot of reddit bags
12:30 mp_en_viaje heh
12:38 BingoBoingo Still further, the "visual novel" abuse lends itself to they Patreon abuse model as well, because... it incentives making shit episodic while calling the episodes "updates"
12:41 BingoBoingo It
12:42 BingoBoingo 's like tards talk altcoins
12:50 asciilifeform hrm deedbot down ?!
12:51 asciilifeform optimized 'M' posted.
12:52 asciilifeform ( spoiler : read+write tlb caching nao gives 'pentium 166' both in userland and kernel, instead of 'pentium 166' in kernel and '486' in user. but still ugh. )
13:05 mp_en_viaje trinque, ^
13:07 asciilifeform ( ^ wrapup of last night's observation )
13:07 a111 Logged on 2019-07-25 03:21 asciilifeform: ( short spoiler : if you ensure that neither tlb nor 'asid' has changed since last tlb lookup, and current vaddr's tag is same as during last lookup, can use same pfn (i.e. tlb lookup result) as then. )
13:08 asciilifeform also includes fastpath exception handlers (i.e. instead of the conditional tree from genesis ver) and a 'cheat' for tlbwr ('tlb write random') instruction so that it puts recently-created tlb entries near the base of the table, where reached faster while searching.
13:10 asciilifeform theoretically possible that a multi-entry tlb cache would speed up. but not knowable apriori, cuz searching multiple entries also costs.
13:12 asciilifeform ( cache lives in xmm regs, so as to avoid accessing ram. and they're mostly used up, there's 3 left unused )
13:13 asciilifeform originally i expected a 50+% speedup, but the cache mechanism itself eats cycles.
13:14 asciilifeform executable nao 'bloated' to 14kB...
13:19 asciilifeform unless someone reads the thing and finds some major optimization that i missed, thing is really at the point of severely diminishing returns, plain old 'cycle massage' won't get much.
13:23 asciilifeform anyone who has a spare 5min, invited to post output of 'time dhrystone 10000000' along with on what iron etc.
13:23 asciilifeform ( (a) -- in 'M', (b) -- on the host iron )
13:29 asciilifeform ( likbez for n00bz : mips 'exception handlers' have 0 to do with what normally goes by this name, it is what the mips standard calls what normal people refer to as interrupts & traps )
13:30 asciilifeform ... and yes there is actually a standard. even sold as dead tree b00k, called 'see mips run'
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13:30 asciilifeform not as gloriously pedantic as ada's docs, but similar in flavour.
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13:46 ave1 asciilifeform: I used to own a pentium 90, it ran everything just fine at the time.
13:47 asciilifeform ave1: my 486 also 'ran just fine' lol
13:47 asciilifeform and so did the 386..
13:47 mp_en_viaje i suppose this was pre-mathlulz pentium
13:47 asciilifeform i had the mafflulz pentium, also ran 'just fine' if you didn't use the float stack
13:47 mp_en_viaje true enuff
13:48 asciilifeform 'm' btw has -- like most actual mips irons -- no float stack. if you run proggy that demands it, ends up invoking linux's
13:53 mp_en_viaje in other lulz, duck duck go is actually written in... perl
13:53 mp_en_viaje to go with the amusing discovery patreon is mysql with python glue.
13:53 ave1 like 387...
13:53 mp_en_viaje the tech stack of the web is ever lulzy.
13:54 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: i'm almost surprised it wasn't microshit
13:56 mp_en_viaje microshit what, visual basic ?
13:56 mp_en_viaje i half-expect most of this shit is run out of excel
13:57 asciilifeform microshit's www platform, i fughet what it was
13:57 mp_en_viaje .net something ?
13:57 mp_en_viaje i think it died
13:57 mp_en_viaje about the time "compete.com" croaked or thereabouts.
13:57 asciilifeform alive & well, so to speak, in usg sites & similar
13:58 ave1 asp, still used
13:58 mp_en_viaje for srs ?!
14:00 mp_en_viaje http://www.preemptive.com/images/documentation/Reverse_Engineering_Risk_Assessment.pdf keks
14:01 asciilifeform lol wtf is that
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14:25 asciilifeform meanwhile, in 'software sux', apparently there aint a profiling tool that'll work on linux with proggy written 100% in asm
14:25 asciilifeform i.e. one where there is nowhere to put c-istic hooks
14:25 asciilifeform (e.g. 'gprof' -- useless for subj)
14:27 asciilifeform there's 'callgrind' but seems to produce nonsense..
14:29 spyked asciilifeform, iirc perf has "annotate" tool that works on asm?
14:30 asciilifeform spyked: pointedly a tool that requires modification of the binary, is worthless here
14:30 asciilifeform given as thing is written by hand to max the pipeline , avoid hitting ram, etc
14:31 spyked I dun understand. what modification?
14:31 spyked to be clear, I'm talking about the "perf" tool that comes with linux
14:31 asciilifeform maybe i misread ? what is 'annotation' in this context
14:31 spyked http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/perf-annotate.1.html
14:31 asciilifeform spyked: none of my linuxen seem to have 'perf'
14:31 asciilifeform will have to look into where it can be had from
14:34 asciilifeform spyked: do you happen to have a link to src tarball handy ?
14:35 spyked asciilifeform, it's part of the linux kernel tree, can be found in tools/perf. disclaimer: it uses hardware counters to get accurate samples for profiling, so accurate results might be dependent on the cpu you're running on
14:36 asciilifeform strange then that it aint on any of my boxen
14:36 asciilifeform for instance this one here is with kernel 3.8 , and no 'perf'
14:37 spyked hm, it seems to be there: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v3.8/source/tools/perf
14:38 * asciilifeform found it in /usr/linux/src/tools , but dunbuild, barfs, 'wrong libc'
14:39 asciilifeform contemptible garbage.
14:40 spyked ugh, dunno why it asks for glibc. the only specific item it might require would be kernel knob for counters or whatever.
14:40 asciilifeform 'Makefile:542: *** No gnu/libc-version.h found, please install glibc-dev[el]/glibc-static. Stop.'
14:41 * spyked used perf with some limited degree of success in the past. could measure cache/tlb/branch predictor misses with it. but admittedly, never tried it on non-glibc systems.
14:42 asciilifeform spyked: this here ~is~ a glibcistic system, frozen in amber circa 2011 or so
14:43 asciilifeform ( and aint about to swap libcs, esp. nao that heathen 'portage' is 100% dead )
14:43 a111 Logged on 2019-06-23 21:34 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-06-23#1919680 << fwiw asciilifeform has not used 'portage' in year+ -- the heathen portage finally 100% broke then. ( 'updated' on the gentooist end, so that no longer agrees to build ~anything~ without 'new profile', and won't install 'new profile' because hard-contravenes asciilifeform's poetteringisms ban list... )
14:47 asciilifeform for thread-completeness : callgrind output. not 100% useless
14:47 asciilifeform ^ corresponds to approx 10min of runtime
14:51 asciilifeform ^ seems to correspond to the following cut : ~15% time in type-i instrs.; ~4.35% in r-type; 25.5% in memory read/write (incl. tlbisms) ; but the rest, doesn't say...
14:52 asciilifeform 55% unaccounted for.
14:52 asciilifeform wtf sorta rubbish is this...
15:01 asciilifeform doesn't even seem to account for the slave threads (possibly total # of cycles is sum of all? which is idiotic)
15:03 BingoBoingo As feedbot appears to be without voice http://qntra.net/2019/07/west-bank-palestinians-suspend-all-agreements-with-israel-over-demolitions/
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15:39 mp_en_viaje asciilifeform, but i mean, if you can;t have the hooks put in, then how is it supposed to profile ?!
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16:08 mp_en_viaje !!up bvt_away
16:08 mp_en_viaje dang
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16:52 mp_en_viaje oh this is getting ridoinculous.
16:53 mp_en_viaje trinque, what happened to poor deedbot!11
17:00 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-25#1924823 << traditionally, when can't hook, profiler randomly suspends process coupla mil times, and counts where stopped how many #
17:00 a111 Logged on 2019-07-25 19:39 mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, but i mean, if you can;t have the hooks put in, then how is it supposed to profile ?!
17:00 mp_en_viaje i don't think this can still be done
17:00 mp_en_viaje ianap, but.
17:02 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: i did it earlier, lol, pasted ('callgrind'). but needs some knob-turnin' so as to focus on just the main thrd
17:03 * mp_en_viaje is duly impressed.
17:03 asciilifeform lol
17:03 mp_en_viaje usure ?
17:03 mp_en_viaje after the sjlj adventure i'm in denial.
17:04 asciilifeform half the pt of the 'm' thing was to be to sew together a comp where can-sure
17:04 mp_en_viaje fair enuff
17:05 asciilifeform ( ~that~ turned out to be the easier 90% , lol )
17:12 asciilifeform meanwhile bvt has outputs
17:27 mp_en_viaje took me a while to understand wtf was happening after clicking that link
17:27 mp_en_viaje maybe we should start with chan-based colorization, everyone pick a background
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18:20 asciilifeform lol i thought it was all same b&w on mp_en_viaje's 'lynx'
18:28 asciilifeform holyfuq, ~6~ mp_en_viaje pieces in absence of deedbot..
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18:29 asciilifeform trinque: are you having a 'dulap-I'-style problem ??
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19:31 BingoBoingo Meanwhile in Barrio Conciliación https://www.montevideo.com.uy/Noticias/Tres-hombres-armados-con-un-fusil-de-guerra-robaron-un-auto-y-lo-chocaron-a-pocas-cuadras-uc725245
19:34 BingoBoingo I am starting to suspect more than 75% of the the "literate" population can't read faster than audio delivers to them.
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19:52 BingoBoingo re: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-07-25#1924709
19:52 a111 Logged on 2019-07-25 14:13 mp_en_viaje: why the fuck would anyone prefer audio channel to irc is anyone's guess. here's mine : speaking takes less thought than writing / unit time.
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20:28 BingoBoingo !Qlater tell mp_en_viaje Someone wandered into #pizarro from the wilds and expressed an interest in the last RockChip. Let me know how interested you are in setting up a trilema.org box if you get a chance to terminal before hitting the road again
20:28 lobbesbot BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
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21:25 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje et al : lulzily, if there existed a cycle-accurate emulator of ~pc~ , accurate profiling would be trivial -- simply allocate a word for each instr., and increment that word when the instr executes
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21:51 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje et al : thinking re 'bigpicture' -- i suspect that my approach was ill-conceived from beginning. instead of a mips-iii, if doing such thing -- oughta have implemented a radically simplified item with dozen or so instructions; for which could then bake 'fittable in head' bellardistic dynamic emu. and then retarget gcc to it.
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21:51 asciilifeform then would actually add up to something usable.
21:53 asciilifeform prolly would've added up to less sweat, too.
21:56 asciilifeform mips, for all its schoolbook popularity, has whole buncha non-orthogonal instrs (e.g. movz/movn, beq/bne, etc. pairs, where only diff is negation; all the signed/unsigned pairs, wtf, if you want signed arithm, let compiler do the fucking sign extension ; and all the unaligned byte-addressing ops, fuck'em, let'em address on whole words like bolix, and suck it up, and bonus , lose 'endianism')
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23:10 BingoBoingo Meanwhile in the dominant local noise of the moment: "Joven de origen judío aparece junto a Guido Manini con una inscripción neonazi" http://archive.is/bUb4V
23:17 BingoBoingo What Google via archive.is returns for the "Nazi" string "HKN KRZ" https://archive.is/Inbd3
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