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04:02 mp_en_viaje http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-04#1911183 << same exact way it's done now. consider what happens now, dig freenode -> http://trilema.com/2019/the-freenode-issue/#selection-31.0-59.22
04:02 a111 Logged on 2019-05-04 23:53 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-04#1911171 << how wouldja disambiguate ? ( ...pick random ? ...prompt ? )
04:07 mp_en_viaje BingoBoingo,"These USG tantrums lacked any self awareness as details of the plot failed were spilled to the extent that any plausible deniability of the USG's leadership of the plot is undeniable." >> "Besides ample unintentional comedy, the childish lack of self awareness from which these USG tantrums stem renders impossible any sort of deniability of USG's "leadership" (or more properly, dreamership) of the remarkably braindamaged plot."
04:07 mp_en_viaje or something. you gotta sort your subordinate clauses like you speak english, aite ?
04:15 BingoBoingo ty, suggested replacement emplaced
04:16 mp_en_viaje meanwhile, in harem technologies from the future, https://x.imagefapusercontent.com/u/Brownfinger/8051557/1277517574/mask22.jpg
04:19 mp_en_viaje and also, in adult women / excellent attitude in a slavegirl news, https://x.imagefapusercontent.com/u/BettyPorngirl/8081362/479980499/14461027.gif
04:20 mp_en_viaje plenty got that in them ; and plenty got other, and better things. but until you hurt them well, you never know, nor does it ever show.
~ 2 hours 19 minutes ~
06:40 * mp_en_viaje shall bbl.
06:50 feedbot http://trilema.com/2019/naked-sluts-in-hotel-rooms-a-frank-discussion-of-harem-sexuality-the-warm-pubic-reception-of-the-general-public-and-other-typos/ << Trilema -- Naked sluts in hotel rooms, a frank discussion of harem sexuality, the warm pubic reception of the general public and other typos.
~ 5 hours 50 minutes ~
12:41 mp_en_viaje http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-04#1911186 << not to mention all the "tracking pixel" bullshits.
12:41 a111 Logged on 2019-05-04 23:57 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-04#1911178 << imho that's just about half the appeal -- 'resolve(ads.liquishit.com) ? null!'
12:42 mp_en_viaje meanwhile in other sad news, belgrade bdsm scene seems to consist 100% of "escort services"
12:52 asciilifeform mp_en_viaje: what was it like in the old days ?
12:53 asciilifeform ( come to think of it, i dun recall at any point mp_en_viaje travelogue where 'this-here country has a++ bsdm!' -- this ever even existed ? )
~ 1 hours 34 minutes ~
14:27 BingoBoingo May have existed in the 1980s?
~ 47 minutes ~
15:15 asciilifeform lol maybe 1780s. with de sade .
15:20 mp_en_viaje back in the old days they had a male/gay/leather thing and a lesbo/uni/femintard thing.
15:21 asciilifeform iirc mp_en_viaje knows how to strip the electron shell from the latter and make bromine trifluoride neh
15:21 mp_en_viaje notsure it's knowledge per se.
15:21 asciilifeform well 'knows' like fluorine 'knows'
15:23 mp_en_viaje anyways, even with civillians... me spent a few hours in the tiniest spa known to mankind. rando couple, "soo.. .are you a triplet ?" "actually, they're my slaves" "wut?!?!?" "do you know what bdsm is ?" dude : nope ; chick yup.
15:23 mp_en_viaje kinda how this goes, i'd guesstimate about 2/3 of reproductive age females and 1% or so of reproductive age males know-about-it
15:29 mp_en_viaje honestly, i'd propose it's about 0% different from how things work here. have the creds and speak the words, you're in, takes all of three and a half minutes.
15:29 mp_en_viaje absent the two... why, you can lick the walls for decades, go on pixel clicking hunts until you break down your mouse.
15:30 mp_en_viaje what distinguishes lord from orc ? "had what to point to and knew what to ask for".
15:32 diana_coman also knew what he was pointing at, lolz
15:34 mp_en_viaje hm ?
15:34 diana_coman the "had what to point to and knew what to ask for" sounds superficially a "point and babble" sort of thing; doesn't work quite that well if that's ALL there is to it
15:39 mp_en_viaje had what to point to in terms of creds. as in http://archive.is/cpRj6#selection-9.5171-9.5201
15:39 mp_en_viaje "i'm the guy that so and so".
15:40 diana_coman aha; basically having done the work and spoke the words, it takes all of 3 minutes, sure; as always.
15:41 mp_en_viaje yuppers.
15:43 mp_en_viaje kinda the basis of human society, too. dude stops car in gas station, orders a fill. obvious enough he's one of the people who gets fills at gas stations -- there's the car, there he stands asking for gas, in the manner such is done.
15:43 mp_en_viaje had he arrived on a bike, or asked for peanuts, well... it'd have not worked out as well.
15:46 mp_en_viaje anyways. as an anthropological fact males are significantly more sexually conservative and significantly less sexually informed than females.
15:46 mp_en_viaje there's some biological and plenty of social basis for this, too.
15:49 diana_coman ah, that yes
15:51 diana_coman for that matter I'm not even sure what exactly are they *less* conservative about, anyway
15:51 mp_en_viaje death.
15:52 mp_en_viaje in all shapes and forms, from suicide to spending their day fucking with chiclid fish or collecting stamps ; from going to war to editing wikipedia.
15:52 mp_en_viaje males are less conservative with human life.
15:53 diana_coman ah, right; there it is, the one thing indeed.
15:54 mp_en_viaje just consider the lulz of all time : in any sample sufficiently large, males will implicitly overestimate the total amount of copulation going on by about a half-magnitude factor. the sheer naive simplicity that's required of one to thusly behave...
16:01 diana_coman eh, people are quite terrible at estimating anyway and when it's plain guesstimate esp so.
16:08 mp_en_viaje well yes, but one of the very few if not the only available means to scientify about knowledge is to aggregate estimates and compare systematic errors.
16:09 mp_en_viaje sorta like sociological cryptanalysis, really.
16:16 mp_en_viaje all knowing (as the cultural process) is in the end a trapdoor function of some kind and no more.
16:29 mp_en_viaje diana_coman, it wouldn't be plain guesstimates. ask each member of the group, "how many sexual encounters did you participate in last year" say, discover the doods had about 3x as much sex as the gals. somehow. nohomo.
16:40 mp_en_viaje https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signifyin' << speaking of these retards... check 'em out BingoBoingo , niggas be trippin on dat jenkem.
16:41 mp_en_viaje "Rudy Ray Moore, known as "Dolemite", is well known for having used the term in his comedic performances. While Signifyin(g) is the term coined by Henry Louis Gates, Jr. to represent a black vernacular, the idea stems from the thoughts of Ferdinand De Saussure and the process of signifying—"the association between words and the ideas they indicate."[4] Gates states, "'Signification,' in Standard English, denotes the meaning that a term c
16:41 mp_en_viaje onveys, or is intended to convey." Gates takes this idea of signifying and "doubles" it in order to explain signifyin(g). He states of Black Vernacular, "their complex act of language Signifies upon both formal language use and its conventions, conventions established, at least officially, by middle-class white people."[5] "
16:41 mp_en_viaje "According to Gates, the practice derived from the Trickster archetype found in much African mythology, folklore, and religion: a god, goddess, spirit, man, woman, or anthropomorphic animal who plays tricks or otherwise disobeys normal rules and societal norms."
16:41 mp_en_viaje the african mythological practice of washing when ? wewazkangz o'clock perhaps ?
16:43 * BingoBoingo recalls a "U waz dick washers" meme
16:45 mp_en_viaje "The signifying monkey is a character of African-American folklore that derives from the trickster figure of Yoruba mythology, Esu Elegbara."
16:46 mp_en_viaje by which bullshit we're supposed to not notice that "the signifying monkey is approximately kermit for retards -- something some dude 'came up with' for ~tv in the 50s on the basis of what he remembered of the little he understood from what that german professor visiting his community college said.
16:46 BingoBoingo But yes, black academica after the NAACP's founding is a fountain of lulz
16:46 mp_en_viaje folklore my left fucking foot.
16:46 BingoBoingo Well, they went from a continent with monkeys to a continent with asciilifeform
16:46 BingoBoingo 's trash pandas
16:48 BingoBoingo Plenty of opportunities to obsess over animals fucking with them
16:50 mp_en_viaje if you think about it, raccoons go about in ironic blackface or what.
16:50 BingoBoingo Plenty of monkeys in blackface too.
16:51 BingoBoingo And the baboons with the color coded butts
~ 21 minutes ~
17:12 mp_en_viaje meanwhile in grindcore metal, https://media.8ch.net/file_store/edbccfd096abecebf999963e01a735a075c51bf4edb11667c403e070c47b64f4.webm
~ 48 minutes ~
18:01 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-05#1911237 << fractional reserve fuck!1
18:01 a111 Logged on 2019-05-05 20:29 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it wouldn't be plain guesstimates. ask each member of the group, "how many sexual encounters did you participate in last year" say, discover the doods had about 3x as much sex as the gals. somehow. nohomo.
18:05 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-05#1911230 << all men kamikaze. just, most slow, lazy. sorta why death, packaged correctly, is quite marketable 'product' in own right
18:05 a111 Logged on 2019-05-05 19:52 mp_en_viaje: males are less conservative with human life.
18:05 a111 Logged on 2016-06-05 02:35 asciilifeform: that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flag and loyalty-parades ... Whereas Socialism, and even capitalism in a grudging way, have said to people “I offer you a good time,” Hitler has said to them “I offer you struggle, danger and death,” and as a
18:07 asciilifeform ( phunphakt -- the orig. kamikazes were not 'just anyone', but recruits with top marks and gold reccs. at one time dozen or so takers to erry spot. )
18:09 asciilifeform if tokkotai brigade had somehow formed in '41, and not '44, when ~nuffin left with wings still attached, could have easily sunk entire usg navy.
18:10 asciilifeform 'хороша ложка к обеду'(tm)(r)
18:17 mp_en_viaje quite possibru
18:17 mp_en_viaje but in 41, nobody wanted them to, because will need these to live an' help administer manchuko or w/e.
18:18 asciilifeform well no, that's the funny bit, the angle of 'hey cannon fodder, wanna die honourably for emperor?' angle was muchly in place already then.
18:18 asciilifeform but -- disorganized.
18:19 mp_en_viaje http://trilema.com/2013/margaritas-ante-porcos-as-it-were/#selection-429.31-429.108 << afaik the best statement of the situation.
18:19 mp_en_viaje the dangers of the self-realized male.
18:20 mp_en_viaje as the old adage goes, the problem with suicides is that the ones that manage are the only ones you actually want to have failed.
18:20 asciilifeform ' I am a corpse looking for a place to drop when this is over ' << aaha
18:21 asciilifeform let's illustrate. 'umi yukaba', jp naval anthem, '37 and on. 'if i go to sea / i shall be a washed up corpse. / if i go to the mountains / a corpse i shall be in the grass / but as i die for the emperor / i will have no regret ' roughly.
18:22 asciilifeform mcarthur -- banned song. today, again it is sung, in what passes for jp navy. entirely above-board.
18:27 mp_en_viaje meanwhile in the other empire, https://media.8ch.net/file_store/366d06ffeef85666c91dc1f6638408fad3da8317bc4fe99454c7e453074a74e6.jpg
18:28 asciilifeform lol!!
18:34 asciilifeform nfi how one might come upon this notion ( want to eat projectile , but not wake up neighbours ? ) but e.g. arbalest entirely adequate to go through left temple and out of right, is ~fiddybux.
18:34 asciilifeform in lolmart, even.
18:35 asciilifeform and much better ergonomics than this 12th century lol.
18:35 mp_en_viaje i expect some homoeroticism went into it.
18:35 asciilifeform gotta be. i dun have the freud-fu to say exactly how tho.
18:37 asciilifeform ( incidentally, and may have noted prev., arbalest is a++ trashpanda solver, but slow reload, quite inadequate if you have a herd of 3-4 to dispatch )
18:39 mp_en_viaje medieval solution for slow reload ?
18:39 mp_en_viaje get a bunch!
18:40 asciilifeform iirc the chinese had some sorta hack for this also.
18:42 mp_en_viaje https://8ch.net/vore/res/29903.html#31101 << there is a dedicated lolcow board, but the lolcows are to be found on the... vore board ?
18:42 mp_en_viaje sygnyfyin'!
18:43 asciilifeform https://media.8ch.net/file_store/8c45aa7d522f14a1b4fc15d5089cc971d3c2c198e5851611d6f876e29d6d6386.jpg << lol!
18:49 mp_en_viaje amusingly enough, there's a sexual paroxism pathway driven by anoxia in mammals (kinda traditionally common male style, actually). so it's quite conceivable ingurgitated prey might ejaculate.
19:03 * mp_en_viaje shall bbl\
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19:32 asciilifeform i suspect that errybody with even surface familiarity with subj of hanging, knows this
19:33 asciilifeform ( iirc was why the idjit victorians ended up phasing out public hanging -- 'too sexy' )
~ 48 minutes ~
20:22 asciilifeform wb danielpbarron
20:22 asciilifeform danielpbarron: how's the hair shirt life treatin' ya ?
20:23 danielpbarron good
20:23 danielpbarron i bought a house
20:23 asciilifeform w/ coin ?
20:23 danielpbarron well that's my only source of income, so ya i guess
20:23 asciilifeform in oklahomistan ?
20:24 danielpbarron yes
20:24 asciilifeform didja have it Officially proclaimed as a church ?
20:24 asciilifeform iirc mircea_popescu described how/why to do this
20:25 danielpbarron no, we meet in eachother's houses for church and we don't register any of them as such
20:25 asciilifeform iirc in usa it gets you 'benefit of clergy' or sumthing equiv
20:25 danielpbarron it's my understanding that such a registration also comes with strings attached that we don't want attached
20:26 asciilifeform danielpbarron: hm. elaborate for the l0gz ?
20:26 * asciilifeform mostly unfamiliar with subj
20:27 asciilifeform do they send surprise inspectors to 'see if yer churchy enuff' ?
20:27 asciilifeform i've been inside the 'scientology' church in dc, it is luxurious (and utterly batshit) item . so surely cannot be much of obstacle, this.
20:28 danielpbarron i don't know the details of it
20:34 BingoBoingo How are the local orcs in Ok?
20:34 danielpbarron just as bad as in CT
20:35 * asciilifeform dug up at one pt the 'plaintext' details, but usa is 1 of those batshit anglo 'case law' jurisdictions, and asciilifeform dun have the time/inclination to saw through the various paywalls to try an' interpret the necessary 100MB+ of crapola
20:36 BingoBoingo Acquire any livestock?
20:36 asciilifeform danielpbarron: i thought the mega-virtue of oklahomistan is where it is largely empty
20:37 danielpbarron i don't own any animals besides my cat, but several fellow church goers have horses and/or cows
20:37 danielpbarron yes where i got the house we are "in the middle of nowhere" but my appartment is in a college town
20:38 danielpbarron i might get into legal cannabis growing
20:39 danielpbarron medical recently passed here, and licenses go for 2.5k WFF
20:41 BingoBoingo You could try emu or alpaca
20:42 danielpbarron not really my expertise, and the land i bought is not really fit for livestock
20:43 BingoBoingo Could try rabbits like cazalla did
20:50 BingoBoingo Liven the cat's life up a bit
21:00 asciilifeform meanwhile in entirely unrelated lulz, asciilifeform came across a 1984 edition of barnes's ada at flea market , and it's ~pocket-sized . i suspect that if one were to write a 'tmsr ada' dead tree, would look ~similar roughly
21:00 a111 Logged on 2019-02-05 21:05 diana_coman: speaking of Barnes' Ada book: it IS very useful and I certainly do go back to it quite often still for all sorts but it still has at times such ideas that I can't stand; e.g. "The reader will probably feel that the activation mechanism is somewhat elaborate. However, in practice, the details will rarely need to be considered. They are mentioned in order to show that the mechanism is well defined rather than because of their everyday import
21:01 asciilifeform ( 2012 barnes -- ~phonebook backbreaker )
21:01 asciilifeform diana_coman iirc also has 1, can confirm
~ 31 minutes ~
21:33 BingoBoingo Testament to the additive destruction of the wreckers.
~ 29 minutes ~
22:02 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: unfortunately this case is atypical, or asciilifeform would have written for ada83
22:02 asciilifeform only 90% or so post-83, crud
22:03 asciilifeform the remainder, quite valuable (e.g. preconditions, which tightened, rather than loosened, semantics )
~ 28 minutes ~
22:31 BingoBoingo Still the book grew too much. Whatever useful things are added get burried in shit
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