10:55 |
Mocky |
I had the most vivid dream last night that I met mp and hanbot. I shook mp's hand and then I turned and shook hanbot's hand and when I turned back mp was gone but left me a note with his signature and "kek" then I turned and habot was gone too |
10:56 |
asciilifeform |
guten morgen Mocky |
10:56 |
Mocky |
mornin' |
10:58 |
BingoBoingo |
Mornin folks |
10:58 |
feedbot |
http://qntra.net/2019/01/dead-black-man-found-at-major-pantsuit-donors-home-for-second-time-in-less-than-two-years/ << Qntra -- Dead Black Man Found At Major Pantsuit Donor's Home For Second Time In Less Than Two Years |
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11:24 |
mircea_popescu |
Mocky lol auction off the note, prolly bigbux(tm)! |
11:25 |
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asciilifeform upturned a stack of papers with elbow last night, a mircea_popescu card came flying out |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo are these tynisha ysais relatives ? any bits missing ? |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform what's a mp card ? |
11:26 |
mircea_popescu |
oh, you mean the black business card things ? |
11:26 |
asciilifeform |
aha that |
11:26 |
asciilifeform |
the 1 with the gpg fp |
11:27 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty cool item, if i do say so myself. the face of all the people who've since got one... worth erry penny. |
11:27 |
asciilifeform |
it's nifty. |
11:27 |
asciilifeform |
i still think an electric one would be even spiffier tho |
11:29 |
asciilifeform |
(i.e. plug it in, it 'types' the modulus) |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
how'd an electric one go ? |
11:29 |
Mocky |
electric, what, to pull itself out of your pocket? |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i dun see it. |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
you know ? |
11:29 |
mircea_popescu |
i mean, if it ~speaks~ it, it could be cooler in the intended market ; but honestly speaking is inferior tech to reading. |
11:30 |
asciilifeform |
typing in 4096bit is bit of a pain |
11:31 |
mircea_popescu |
SLAVEGIRLS. |
11:32 |
asciilifeform |
lol |
11:32 |
Mocky |
so long as it doesn't have cancel button |
11:32 |
asciilifeform |
ahahahaha |
11:33 |
mircea_popescu |
there's two solutions to "x is painful" : a) make x', just-like-x-but-not-painful ; and b) use it in training, where pain is both desirable, useful and necessary. |
11:33 |
asciilifeform |
there's also the 3rd, 'make it == x but slightly less pain' but admittedly takes work |
11:34 |
asciilifeform |
( i'll observe, mircea_popescu's ship has diesels, rather than oars, last i knew ) |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
(and, for completeness & rounding off [kek kek] of the "dating" reference yesterday : the ~other~ locus of man, other than "doing very well on a date", is sitting on a couch [of power] and pointing at which fancy fanciula he intends to sozomize next. just sayin'.) |
11:34 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform oars are not merely painful, but also train biceps. mp is not so keep in bicep-y slavegirls, THEREFORE has not oars. |
11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
if oars promoted instead stoic values, it'd have fucking oars. |
11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
not so keen* i meep |
11:35 |
asciilifeform |
couch << very suleiman, i'd expect 'throne' |
11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
meen* |
11:35 |
asciilifeform |
i can see re the biceps tho |
11:35 |
asciilifeform |
perhaps give'em pedals. |
11:35 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform this is an eastern power, what can i tell you. |
11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
or, to quote from fetgirl, "mistey25 19F Switch Also an intelegence test? What makes you think you have what it takes to judge if someone is smart or not. Theres a quote from Albert Einstein if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life believing its an idiot. And youre judging me based off of things youre pulling out of your ass. Why dont I give you a bit of judgement. Yo |
11:36 |
mircea_popescu |
u look like a goat fucker." |
11:37 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: didja reply 'perfect, you look exactly like goat |
11:37 |
asciilifeform |
' ? |
11:38 |
mircea_popescu |
lol nope. i said goats are cute but not to the point of fucking one. |
11:38 |
asciilifeform |
btw are they all xyzpqrDIGITDIGIT ? it's like aol never died |
11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, it's testament to my famous capacity of fitting in -- comes from the fact i use as main profile pic a shot hanbot took in turkey, where i was being INCREDIBLY fucking fit-in. |
11:39 |
mircea_popescu |
(the first time around, decade or so prior, turkey ss guy intercepted me. like on the street. asked if i'm from the us, i said romania, he said no fucking way, what are you selling me here. was pretty lulzy.) |
11:41 |
asciilifeform |
twist : he asked in hungarian |
11:42 |
asciilifeform |
'english, french, and japanese spy'(tm)(r) |
11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform they are not. here, have a sampler http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ufhi6/?raw=true |
11:44 |
asciilifeform |
oh hah, only a ~third of'em.. |
11:44 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
11:45 |
mircea_popescu |
did some countwork at some point irrc. lotta "kitten" (spoiler : generally fatties), lotta stuff like that. |
11:45 |
asciilifeform |
in other esoterica, on gentoo 'xinput' dumps list of mice, and then 'xinput --set-prop yermousenumber 269 -1' switches off mouse-acceleration. ( possibly phf already knew this, but gives 9000x moar usable roller ) |
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11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
how are you to use a mouse w/o acceleration ?! |
11:46 |
asciilifeform |
well if it's a trad mouse you generally wouldn't |
11:46 |
asciilifeform |
but for rollerballs it worx great |
11:46 |
asciilifeform |
( 1:1 mm/rolled to pixels ) |
11:46 |
mircea_popescu |
ah works diff for rollers ? mkay |
11:46 |
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mircea_popescu never got into that. |
11:46 |
asciilifeform |
me neither, until recently |
11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
i get the "takes less space than mouse" etc. it just seems bulky and inconvenient to me. and too high. and so on. |
11:47 |
mircea_popescu |
not proposing this as problems ~with the item~. |
11:47 |
asciilifeform |
it takes ~same space as mouse, if you have a decent two-bricks-sized box |
11:48 |
asciilifeform |
the win is that when you e.g. cad, less muscle aches. ( asciilifeform aint cad'ing currently but expects to again later this yr.. ) |
11:48 |
asciilifeform |
i dunno how phf ended up into it tho, iirc he dun cad |
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11:48 |
asciilifeform |
but i got the idea from him |
11:52 |
BingoBoingo |
<mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo are these tynisha ysais relatives ? any bits missing ? << Apparently they are just dead sex workers |
11:52 |
mircea_popescu |
black ~men~ ? |
11:52 |
asciilifeform |
the linked piece read like a 'bugger-for-meth' affair |
11:53 |
BingoBoingo |
Yeah, black male sex workers. |
11:53 |
BingoBoingo |
From the text of the Qntra piece: "In the previous incident Gemmel Moore, a 26 year old male sex worker's death was ruled a drug overdose following an investigation which found numerous syringes and indicators of habitual methamphetamine use in Buck's home. According to Moore's journal, Buck introduced him to methamphetamine." |
11:55 |
BingoBoingo |
White pantsuit hiring black men for sex and hooking them on meth... like that Atlanta dude but with different taste in holes |
11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
well, in all fairness to the http://trilema.com/2016/welcome-to-baluba-island/ cuck in question -- if your wife fucks a dozen or so "bulls" before they do you in the ass per week say, and it's been a hundred weeks, you're looking at five or so thousand of these having spent a day with you within the past half week, which is the "relation" standard contemplated. |
11:55 |
mircea_popescu |
that one in x thousand black gay-for-pay tards (who are also drug users, nqa) will od a year... gimme a break. |
11:56 |
mircea_popescu |
in short : it's a wonder there weren't two dozen. |
11:57 |
mircea_popescu |
BingoBoingo the ridiculous notion " Gemmel Moore, a 26 year old male twink" was ~keepin a journal~. srsly ? with what ? |
11:57 |
BingoBoingo |
His community college art school supplies? |
11:58 |
mircea_popescu |
oh, you mean the ipad ? i think they cut off what he was trying to say. |
11:59 |
BingoBoingo |
Anyways, first incident was dismissed after pantsuit outrage over the investigation as an attack on the old dude's lifestyle |
11:59 |
asciilifeform |
hey, 'universal literacy'(tm)(r), neh |
11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
"Edward Bernard Peter Buckmelter began his career as a fashion model in Europe" keks. |
11:59 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform you may think what you wish ; i've seen the fetards and i know better. |
12:00 |
asciilifeform |
no i get |
12:00 |
mircea_popescu |
the odds a 20something ~black~ ~male~ actually keeping a journal are 10ppm or so ; having the capacity to even in principle do so 0.1% sorta deal |
12:00 |
asciilifeform |
it's a lul tho, the incas actually think they have 'literacy' |
12:00 |
asciilifeform |
( 'can read stop sign? here's yer school diploma' ) |
12:00 |
mircea_popescu |
He formerly served on the steering committee of the Stonewall Democratic Club. He has donated "nearly $30,000" to Democratic candidates like Hillary Clinton, Ted Lieu, Pete Aguilar and Raja Krishnamoorthi as well as the Getting Things Done PAC. << dude give me a fucking break ? |
12:01 |
mircea_popescu |
since when the fuck is 30k a sum of money. |
12:01 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: they have this custom, iirc you can donate 1 orcbuck and still show up on 'list of donor' |
12:01 |
BingoBoingo |
Other sources report ~500k still small. More interesting is the information brokerage he sold in his 30's. |
12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty ridoinculous all around. |
12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
aaanyways. |
12:02 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform my point is rather that the democrats ~are very fucking poor~. |
12:02 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: pretty sure most of their dough comes from bezos |
12:03 |
asciilifeform |
( and saud et al ) |
12:03 |
mircea_popescu |
precisely the "russian oligarchs" pseudo-economic model, yes. |
12:03 |
BingoBoingo |
Except cut a couple figures off for the US version |
12:04 |
mircea_popescu |
somehow this doesn't bother them, "hey, our entire understanding of money is, let's get some schmuck a bunch of taxchest so he can http://trilema.com/2012/dan-voiculescu-acest-gunoi-abject/ all over." |
12:04 |
BingoBoingo |
Anyways, it seems the reason he didn't pile up 2 dozen stiffs over the years is that same poverty |
12:08 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, they ~party~ ie, don't keep a ready supply of the stuff (chemicals, biologicals) for whenever feel like, but rather whenever the "pipe" leaks something run out and buy some of each, twice a eyar or w/e. |
12:09 |
mircea_popescu |
the unsteady approach being in itself a great catalyst of both the paroxistic problem encountered and the incapacity for management displayed. |
12:10 |
mircea_popescu |
(that article, btw, remarkable because i told ro bezos "Si, draga Varanule, nu-i clar ca mai ai cinci ani" ie, "dear reptile, it's not clear you have five years left" in 2012 -- by 2014 he was in jail. because hey, mp is right now and again accidentally which is to say 1024/1024 occurences on his blog etc etc) |
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12:11 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, middle class fellow constantly held up by his peers as a party elite |
12:11 |
asciilifeform |
it's how they od, also |
12:11 |
asciilifeform |
( observe, goering -- morphinist from ww1 to '45, and never od ) |
12:11 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: was that the ro berezovsky or who |
12:12 |
mircea_popescu |
just about yeah. dood ran off with the commies accounts receivable in 1989, so that isarescu was stuck inventing acreditives for fuel ships to unload rather than leave that winter. |
12:13 |
mircea_popescu |
that was something else, that january. |
12:23 |
mircea_popescu |
anyway, twas a mere coupla billion. which, at the time, was an IMMENSE sum, that ceausescu had gathered together over decades of hard fucking work for his 20mn slavecrop. |
12:24 |
mircea_popescu |
now it's like... hey, remember when bitcoin had JUST breached 1k and "mp is a billionaire" still "controversial" / difficult to swallow for the tards talking ? |
12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
it's one hell of an object to contemplate, this evolution, for someone who was there in the 80s. "you mean every penny saved off every old schmuck that died in soviet-style economical health care system / every bled out 1950s style (in the us, heh, http://trilema.com/2009/comunismul-capitalismul-si-oprimarea-femeii/#selection-71.0-71.8 ) woman because contraceptives cost money whereas her slavespawn is worth money, ALL THAT, |
12:26 |
mircea_popescu |
every night spent in the cold to "save fuel" by whole neighbourhoods, the inaccessible meat or bananas or whatever -- ALL OF IT!!! went into one "humongous" pile of "the people's wealth" that was, looking in own pockets, not retrospectively that worth the mention ? |
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12:28 |
mircea_popescu |
what the fuck more is there, if this dun suffice re vanitas vanitatum what does. |
12:31 |
mircea_popescu |
alas, poor yorick. i knew him, horatio... |
12:31 |
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mircea_popescu shall bbl. |
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13:05 |
asciilifeform |
it's exactly scale-model ver of the ru 'privatization' afaik. |
13:06 |
asciilifeform |
( and for all i know, ro actually involved moar 'turkeydollar', as by mircea_popescu's and other accts was 'tighter ship' ) |
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13:32 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in paleo-entomology, https://archive.ph/ot5UK#selection-6697.0-6705.198 |
13:32 |
asciilifeform |
'There were people working behind the scenes trying to get the Symbolics VLM stuff legitimately released in some way to the hobbyist community - and this is likely to throw a wrench into that effort' |
13:34 |
asciilifeform |
( 11 yr.-vintage wank re asciilifeform's orig warez link ) |
13:36 |
asciilifeform |
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-08#1885903 << 'pile' wento to washington/eurpoistan coffers, kept the reich going 30yrs past its expiration date |
13:36 |
a111 |
Logged on 2019-01-08 17:26 mircea_popescu: every night spent in the cold to "save fuel" by whole neighbourhoods, the inaccessible meat or bananas or whatever -- ALL OF IT!!! went into one "humongous" pile of "the people's wealth" that was, looking in own pockets, not retrospectively that worth the mention ? |
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13:55 |
mircea_popescu |
in other sad lulz : etsy moved into the new york building where a scottish immigrant invented the prefab packaging box during the gilded age. who knows, maybe it rubs off ? maybe perhaps http://trilema.com/2016/the-%d0%ba%d0%b2%d0%b0%d1%81-bdsm-party/#comment-118604 ? |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
and hey, iirc google (or was it crapple?) occupies the old sgi campus |
13:57 |
asciilifeform |
similar |
13:58 |
mircea_popescu |
myeah. |
13:59 |
asciilifeform |
meanwhile, in the 'man alone' dept, http://interim.mntmn.com |
13:59 |
asciilifeform |
( nfi what happened to it after '15 , but sorta terrydavis-flavour ) |
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16:01 |
asciilifeform |
in other quasi-newz, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=55&cpage=1#comment-19773 |
16:01 |
asciilifeform |
( and it aint a lie, i studied the burroughs arch, indeed was non-overflowistic iron ) |
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~ 1 hours 48 minutes ~ |
17:50 |
feedbot |
http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-january-february-and-march-1714-part-iii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of January, February and March, 1714 - Part III. |
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~ 1 hours 12 minutes ~ |
19:02 |
lobbes |
!!v 0A8DFF73C1807887EABEF77020C257A596B3ECB7F244BB74215588B419EF9D29 |
19:02 |
deedbot |
Invoiced BingoBoingo 0.14 << Auction# 1033: 500 wired filthy fiats for 140mn ecu |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
let's then put the more useful part in teh archive hopper : https://archive.org/stream/bitsavers_burroughsBkComputerSystemOrganizationTheB5700B6700_10821314/Organick_Computer_System_Organization_The_B5700_B6700_Series_1973_djvu.txt |
19:12 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: lol, ~whole thing is diagrams |
19:12 |
asciilifeform |
it aint edible this way. |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
ah |
19:12 |
mircea_popescu |
tsk. |
19:13 |
asciilifeform |
sorta why archaeology is hard |
19:13 |
asciilifeform |
shit aint searchable/txtable. |
19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
cuz erryone gotta be spashul, come up with diagrams. text not good anymore etc. |
19:13 |
asciilifeform |
eh it's a , what, 1960s manuscript. |
19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i'm just bitter. |
19:13 |
asciilifeform |
next can complain that newton didn't put out 7bit ascii. |
19:13 |
mircea_popescu |
i can, and i do. |
19:19 |
BingoBoingo |
!!v 069163137FC5BE03C43D22E16938F9670CBCF86D92B8B580CF13C01C3365AA3E |
19:19 |
deedbot |
BingoBoingo paid lobbes invoice 2 |
19:19 |
asciilifeform |
in other noose, constant-time stein-gcd aint so bad, 1msec (2048bit operands) , 6msec (4096bit) , 21msec (8192bit), 81msec (16384bit) |
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19:21 |
asciilifeform |
incidentally, whether it is possible to gcd arbitrary ints in non-quadratic time, is an open problem in numtheory |
19:21 |
BingoBoingo |
ty lobbes |
19:21 |
asciilifeform |
( afaik nobody ever proved that you couldn't, and the nonconstanttime lehmer and variations run in ~O(n) for ~all inputs ) |
19:21 |
asciilifeform |
the catch is that ~all != all. |
19:27 |
asciilifeform |
on a box with 1 FG, the wait for a random fillup of a e.g. 2048bit reg, i suspect dwarfs the runtime of stein (and possibly even of m-r, dunno yet) |
19:29 |
asciilifeform |
let's say yer baking one of the p, q of a 4096bit rsa mod. it needs 2048bit , i.e. 256byte of FG. a standard FG at room temp shits out 7kByte/s. therefore 256 / (7 x 1024) ~= 0.0357 sec., for a fillup of candidate register. |
19:31 |
asciilifeform |
if primality test ( which consists of GCD ~and~ m-r, in order to constant-time ) does not exceed 0.0356sec, then on machine with 1 FG it can be considered that the FG is the limiting reactant. |
19:31 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu diana_coman et al ^ |
19:31 |
asciilifeform |
on a machine with multiple FG harnessed together, divide the figure by the # of FG in use. |
19:33 |
asciilifeform |
( all of this assumes that nothing is parallelized. asciilifeform in particular does not like parallelized subcomponents in rsatron, if it can be avoided , tho there aint anyffin wrong with running ~multiple~ rsatrons , on diff inputs, in parallel , if iron is available ) |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
nao, philosophical q : does one actually want to gcd + m-r always ? or is it acceptable to reject input after failed gcd litmus, and only ~then~ m-r . |
19:35 |
asciilifeform |
cuz in the former case, there aint actually any point to gcd. |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
( afaik there are no integers that are divisible by small prime (such as will fit in the primorial) and fail ~any~ number of m-r shots. |
19:36 |
asciilifeform |
) |
19:40 |
asciilifeform |
http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/TkmoM/?raw=true << sneak peek of constant-time stein. ( afaik there isn't one anywhere else on the net, funnily enuff. ) |
19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
the whole idea of prior gcd was to save on rm time. |
19:41 |
asciilifeform |
right |
19:41 |
mircea_popescu |
if it doesn't save any time it's not worth having |
19:41 |
asciilifeform |
well at least not in the initial sieve ( one might still want it for e.g. pocklington's test ) |
19:42 |
mircea_popescu |
something like that. |
19:42 |
asciilifeform |
i'd be satisfied with gcd as initial sieve (given that i have one that dun leak anyffin) ~followed~ by m-r. |
19:43 |
mircea_popescu |
i don't see the point. |
19:43 |
asciilifeform |
of what ? that's the obv. version ( get from rng, until gcd shows that no small factors, and then m-r ) |
19:44 |
asciilifeform |
i.e. to save on r-m time. |
19:45 |
asciilifeform |
my observation was that on a box with 1 FG, the latter will almost certainly be the limiting reactant in prime-baking. |
19:47 |
asciilifeform |
( and that on iron where m-r ends up taking substantially less time than FG takes to fill up candidate reg, there may not be a point to pre-sieving ) |
19:47 |
asciilifeform |
i dun have the m-r yet, so cannot give the equation quite yet. |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
the interesting thing about m-r however, is that it can make use of any available cpu given to it, to produce smaller probability of death |
19:49 |
asciilifeform |
so depending on how many m-r shots you want, it can make sense to pre-sieve, to give m-r moar shots. |
19:50 |
asciilifeform |
grr, moar complicated than i initially pictured, because m-r ~also~ demands rng |
19:51 |
asciilifeform |
i'ma come back to this binomial once i have the m-r. |
19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
asciilifeform IF rm doesn't take much time, THEN i don't see the point of doing any gcd. because r-m is a complete test for what we need, and gcd is not. |
19:54 |
asciilifeform |
right |
19:54 |
mircea_popescu |
why overload the machinery with unreliable testing. |
19:55 |
asciilifeform |
how 'many r-m shots' is a free variable tho. |
19:55 |
mircea_popescu |
gcding small primes doesn't reduce the m-r constant. |
19:55 |
asciilifeform |
it potentially frees up cpu for moar shots of m-r, was the idea |
19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
what does ? not bothering to gcd ? |
19:56 |
asciilifeform |
no |
19:56 |
asciilifeform |
the opposite |
19:56 |
asciilifeform |
~doing~ the gcd pre-sieve |
19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
... |
19:56 |
asciilifeform |
then you only m-r on inputs that already passed gcd |
19:56 |
mircea_popescu |
the count of m-r shots is established on mathematical not circumstancial grounds. |
19:57 |
mircea_popescu |
dude... |
19:57 |
asciilifeform |
the ~minimal~ count |
19:57 |
mircea_popescu |
this discussion is broken. |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
let's spell out the algo. 1. reg := read_from_fg(2048bits). 2. l = gcd(reg, primorial) 3. if l != 1, goto 1 4. mr = m-r(reg, shots) 5. if mr != true, goto 1. 6. reg is probabilistically-prime . |
19:59 |
asciilifeform |
this is the 'pre-sieve' variant contemplated. |
20:00 |
asciilifeform |
nao, on a machine with 1 FG, step 1 takes ~36msec. every time. |
20:00 |
asciilifeform |
step 2 takes ~1msec (on asciilifeform's aged box, and less elsewhere.) |
20:01 |
asciilifeform |
steps 3, 5, 6 take ~0. step 4 takes a certain yet-unknown time, which is a function of width(reg) and shots. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
right, which is precisely what makes it a discussion about nothing. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
IF 4 takes too little to bother, 2-3 aren't worth doing ; otherwise, otherwise. |
20:02 |
asciilifeform |
i dun have the necessary figure yet. hence 'i'ma come back'. |
20:02 |
mircea_popescu |
this is exactlyu how things stood 50 lines ~before~, also. |
20:04 |
asciilifeform |
mircea_popescu: i not only gotta write proggy, but to make sure that it makes sense to people |
20:04 |
mircea_popescu |
in other news, reading old logs is something else, my the snr has changed. http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-18#565157 << back in 2014 dorky kids still thought "putin" is how you say "cool". in the intervening years -- they, changed not at all. everything around them... |
20:04 |
a111 |
Logged on 2014-03-18 09:39 LordPutin: what do you mean they haven't? Are they facing legalaction? |
20:06 |
* |
asciilifeform finds good % of the 2014-prior l0gz to be indigestible. (tho regularly goes to read'em anyway) |
20:07 |
mod6 |
evenin' |
20:07 |
mircea_popescu |
yeah, something else. |
20:08 |
asciilifeform |
might be interesting ( phf? ) to have a filter toggle that only shows people who are still alive |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
nah. |
20:08 |
asciilifeform |
( i find what e.g. mircea_popescu said in 2014 , interesting, but not xyzputin3333 ) |
20:08 |
mircea_popescu |
it's still the context. 2014 mp actually talked to ~those~ dorks. |
20:08 |
asciilifeform |
tru |
20:09 |
asciilifeform |
tho not only ( also talked to ben_vulpes and other folx who tuned in prior to asciilifeform ) |
20:09 |
mircea_popescu |
it'd be nice if this is how it worked, "lenin without the nieces". but historically... |
20:09 |
asciilifeform |
wb mod6 |
20:11 |
mod6 |
thx! |
20:11 |
* |
mod6 has been working on the big blog post that outlines my work to create the keccak regrind for trb. |
20:12 |
asciilifeform |
mod6: at the risk of sounding like mircea_popescu in earlier thread -- why is this a mega-project ? i reground ffa to keccak in about 10minute (after getting hold of a working keccak-vtron) |
20:12 |
asciilifeform |
trb has , what, 3x the # of patches, so it'll take you 30m at most. |
20:13 |
asciilifeform |
or do i misread, and mod6 already reground, and writing re how. |
20:15 |
* |
asciilifeform brb,meat |
20:15 |
mod6 |
Yeah, have already reground, indeed. This is a write up of how I did this. |
20:15 |
mircea_popescu |
pretty cool |
20:16 |
mod6 |
And I think that makes sense, this isn't my personal project. How this work was done for the foundation should be a public facing thing, and reviewed by people before vpatches published. |
20:16 |
mircea_popescu |
you always wrote quite excellent / delightfully complete such recipes. |
20:16 |
mod6 |
Thanks mircea_popescu, I appreciate that. |
20:21 |
asciilifeform |
neato mod6 , i look fwd to reading |
20:22 |
mod6 |
*nod* I appreciate that asciilifeform, your eyes on such things always are a Good Thing. Not long after I post it, I'll be looking for people to help test the updated HOWTO guide too if anyone feels so inclined. (Please reach out if interested.) |
20:28 |
asciilifeform |
http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-18#565557 << in lulzy 2014isms |
20:28 |
a111 |
Logged on 2014-03-18 16:00 benkay: gpg is not even necessary for wot participation, you should know. |
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20:45 |
BingoBoingo |
Well, in 2014 the screws hadn't much been turned at all |
20:46 |
BingoBoingo |
gribble still "worked" for some definitions of work |
20:49 |
mircea_popescu |
aha. |
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21:44 |
lobbes |
BingoBoingo: yw |
21:45 |
lobbes |
wb mod6. I also look forward to reading your keccak regrind post (hopefully I can sponge some useful info) |
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22:32 |
mod6 |
:] Thank you lobbes. |
22:43 |
feedbot |
http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/01/initial-cuntoo-testing/ << lobbesblog -- Initial Cuntoo Testing |
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23:12 |
trinque |
lobbes: why didn't you read the script.. |
23:13 |
trinque |
it didn't set a password on root. it asked you what user you wanted to create. |
23:16 |
mircea_popescu |
this is cute. |
23:23 |
lobbes |
trinque: fair enough, but then I should be able to login with that user right? Or at least chrooting in and setting the root password should've worked (I'd imagine) |
23:26 |
* |
lobbes goes to read scripts properly this time |
23:37 |
trinque |
I recommend you read it, understand what it's doing, and then talk about it from knowledge of substance rather than knowledge of surface. |
23:37 |
trinque |
it's not as if the script's setting anyone's password on anything; it's just calling the util that does. |
23:38 |
trinque |
also glad to see it getting used! |
23:39 |
trinque |
I'm still gunning after the nondeterminism in the genesis. |
23:53 |
hanbot |
billymg, phf: in billymg's latest mp-wp vpatch (http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885285), i see the old "\ No newline at end of file" spew on two of the touched files (was symptom of bug last yr: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1786014). still indicative of proablem with presser/patch? |
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23:53 |
a111 |
Logged on 2019-01-07 04:31 billymg: hanbot: i put together a patch for the svg links mentioned earlier: http://billymg.com/2019/01/mp-wp-vpatch-update-internal-image-references-to-point-to-svg-extensions/ |
23:53 |
a111 |
Logged on 2018-02-25 19:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1785986 << i thought that it was just a helpful warning, but upon reflection i realized that this is actually a bug. investigating it further i took a wrong direction on a diff's command line flag switch, and as it stands if you see this warning it |
23:54 |
hanbot |
billymg nice work btw, am ready to sign once above is cleared up |
23:54 |
lobbes |
trinque: I agree that I could use a more substantive grasp on the script as a whole (and will indeed study moar), however I want to say I'm at least understanding the bit in "create_user.sh" where it calls useradd and passwd, and then adds the $USER to etc/sudoers. I'm just missing -why- the user/password I set through useradd/passwd wasn't working when trying to login. Probably something elementary |
23:54 |
lobbes |
that's under my nose.. |
23:57 |
trinque |
you could've like, mistyped it, maaan |