#trilema | 2018-05-05

these mega fucking logs of late... i dunno how the lurkers do it.

00:15

oh dear i am going to need a vastly better system for debiting unearned income.

00:19

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ben_vulpes bbl

~ 33 minutes ~

00:52

!Qlater tell fromdeedbot stop join/parting.

00:52

lobbesbot

mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.

01:02

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-04#1809270 << jesus fucking christ, ~every time you're in here there's a new rendition of this abject kramerism. why not read what people are saying rather than jump to the same idiosyncratically-imagined categories of what people could possibly express? what, you figure making the same brushstroke over and over will eventually paint tmsr into what'd be convenient for you personally?

01:02

Logged on 2018-05-04 16:57 zx2c4: - hanno being a journalist is a mere cover story for a more sinister secret government intelligence job he holds.

01:15

lobbes: did you ever figure out your trb issue that you ran into?

~ 15 minutes ~

01:31

<+asciilifeform> i like mircea_popescu's optimism and good spirit << Same, thanks for your advise and insights, Sir.

01:31

mod6 not yet (been working on getting mp-wp migrated to rockchip). Here's the egogg message I got though >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sOYqV/?raw=true

01:31

well, the tail end of the log (I neglected to log the output of 'screen')

01:32

that's mp-wp ?

01:32

oh no, that is trb

01:33

i.e. not yet figured out trb, because I've been working on mp-wp migration

01:33

iirc screen logs automatically. screen.log

01:33

<+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6 : if lobbes is interested in selling on commission, i would like him to begin asap , with your approval << Sounds good to me, gotta work out the details, etc, but hey, yeah, whatever we can do to push into heathondom

01:33

<+asciilifeform> ditto danielpbarron or anybody else whose hands grow from correct organ and wants to step up to this mission << werd

01:34

mircea_popescu, oh nice tip! I'll have to check for it..

01:34

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mod6 looks @ lobbes' error

01:35

lobbes: what OS are you building on?

01:35

debian 7

01:36

(wheezy)

01:36

yeah, I believe i have seen something like this before

01:36

did you downgrade your gcc from (6 or whatever it is to 4, I'm guessing you did)? And perhaps I recall something not being quite linked correctly in

01:37

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mod6 scratches head...

01:37

/etc/alternatives or whatever.

01:37

try seeing in your shell if "c" is linked to anything.

01:37

yeah, I made sure gcc was 4. Actually, I have notes on the exact versions of all the packages listed in: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html

01:39

Yeah, hmm, I might be mis-remembering or misreading this one. Lemme look again

01:39

how much of your log was snipped? looks like tons.

01:40

yeah, I can jump on and see if I can get the full thing via screen.log

01:41

alright. looks to me like it got all the way through the deps builds, but for some reason puked when trying to build trb itself.

01:41

I presume you got a good press when you used V to press it out?

01:41

(no errors were encountered?)

01:42

heres package version info >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/kuBuY/?raw=true

01:42

my guess is my press may be the cause

01:43

did you install 'build-essential' ?

01:43

Hey, thanks for saving those versions!

01:45

I tried to press on the first pass with asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch, and it -seemed- to work. I essentially followed the trb how-to ONLINE build, but then downloaded the aggressive patch and seal from btcbase/patches

01:45

then issued: "./v.pl p v trb054 asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks.vpatch"

01:46

hmm. just a sec.

01:46

no errors and everything made it into tbr054/bitcoin >>http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sbkbq/?raw=true

01:47

oh yeah, no rush. I figure I may as well give what I got at once

01:50

Ok, I checked myself, too, and from your above paste of the press, and my experience just now, your press I presume was fine.

01:51

So what does this show you:

01:51

command -v cc

01:51

(i suspect this to be a possible debian weird-ness)

01:52

/usr/bin/cc

01:54

what does `ls -al /usr/bin/cc` show you?

01:55

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 May 4 00:29 /usr/bin/cc -> /etc/alternatives/cc

01:55

and if you do `ls -al /etc/alternatives/cc` ?

01:58

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lobbes is following the pattern now >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/n8J9Z/?raw=true

01:59

and then if I try to ls gcc-4.7 I get: ls: cannot access gcc-4.7: No such file or directory

01:59

damn

01:59

what about `ls -al /usr/bin/g++` ?

01:59

woah

01:59

really?

02:00

oh wait, duh. that makes sense

02:00

try this: `command -v gcc-4.7` see what it tells you, then do `ls -al <from_whatever_command-v_told_you>

02:00

`

02:00

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lobbes composes more pastes

02:00

it's probably /usr/bin/gcc-4.7

02:02

yeah it is

02:02

ok

02:02

for good measure , results of above anyway >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/l9RJL/?raw=true

02:02

what i suspect, is that the original makefile.unix can't find something it needs.

02:03

alright.

02:05

well, wanna follow some more steps so we can capture a proper, shorter output?

02:05

(of the error)

02:05

yeah I'm game

02:07

ok

02:07

so go to your trb machine, and then cd into : bitcoin/src

02:07

k, I'm there

02:08

alright, next, do this exactly:

02:08

make -f makefile.unix clean

02:10

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lobbes goes to make sure logging is working

02:13

alright command issued

02:13

ok next, do this exactly:

02:14

cd ../build

02:15

k

02:15

ok lastly, this exactly:

02:15

make -f Makefile.rotor bitcoind

02:16

ah, there I got a egogg: make: *** No rule to make target `bitcoin'. Stop.

02:16

'bitcoind'

02:16

ack. k alright

02:16

different error now

02:16

post error

02:17

plz

02:20

http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/qtUD9/?raw=true

02:21

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mod6 looks

02:22

ok samething.

02:22

hang tight, one sec here..

02:24

ok

02:25

<+mod6> did you install 'build-essential' ?

02:25

And if not, I think we might be able to try working around it here quick,.

02:26

nice! ty for the help

02:26

brb

02:27

ok

02:28

back

02:29

are you still in the 'bitcoin/build' directory?

02:30

yes

02:30

ok try this:

02:30

export CC=/usr/bin/gcc

02:31

k, issued

02:31

ok next:

02:31

make -f Makefile.rotor bitcoind

02:31

(see if you get anything different this time)

02:31

same error looks like

02:31

hmm, ok.

02:32

well, this is a deb problem of some kind.

02:32

my next suggestion is to try to install build-essential, ala: `apt-get install build-essential`

02:32

and see if that solves it for ya.

02:33

for folks following along, these problems are very common in ubuntu and debian.

02:33

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lobbes goes to check

02:34

now that I think of it, I had to install 'make' in the beginning O.o

02:34

alright, build-essential installed

02:34

ok, try this again:

02:34

make -f Makefile.rotor bitcoind

02:35

damn, same thing

02:35

alright, do this:

02:35

source ~/.bashrc

02:36

(want to clear the export CC)

02:36

then do this again:

02:36

make -f Makefile.rotor bitcoind

02:37

ah okay. no ~/.bashrc on this thing, digging on how to clear that in debian

02:37

oh just do this:

02:37

export CC=

02:38

okay, cleared and tried make again, but same egogg

02:39

this is soemthing really dumb we're missing here. i'm nearly sure i've encountered this before but can't remember what the pill is.

02:39

do this:

02:39

make --version

02:41

3.81

02:41

possibly relevant thread >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698646

02:41

Logged on 2017-08-16 02:50 mike_c: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/iKxpS/?raw=true

02:42

error looks similar (archived) >> http://archive.is/UdM7q

02:43

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mod6 looks

02:46

ok standby

02:46

jesus wth happened here

02:47

lobbes: if you are still in the `bitcoin/build' directory, what does `ls -al toolchain/usr/bin/x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-g++` return?

02:47

mircea_popescu: no clue.

02:48

ls: cannot access toolchain/usr/bin/x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-g++: No such file or directory

02:48

ok.

02:48

mod6, lobbes any reason this can't work in pm ?

02:48

so something waaaay earlier on failed to build.

02:48

mircea_popescu: done.

02:53

hey mircea_popescu

02:53

sup

02:53

Sorry all, thought it might be helpful to others if we got his problem resolved.

02:53

!!v mother[m]

02:54

Notice that there was no real resolution to the mike_c problem referenced by lobbes.

02:54

!!up mother[m]

02:54

mother[m] voiced for 30 minutes.

02:55

mircea_popescu: mother is one of my friends, he's a businessman and has a lot of good connections and would definitely be of use for the security firm

02:56

I explained to him the idea, and I was thinking mother[m] could be handling the business aspect

02:56

Hello

02:57

hi there.

02:57

welcome to the republic >.>

03:00

Good to be here. douchebag gave me the big picture of what this would look like.

03:02

so wanna tell the group a little about yourself ?

03:05

!#s http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=who+is+your+daddy

03:05

0 results for "http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=who+is+your+daddy", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fbtcbase.org%2Flog-search%3Fq%3Dwho%2Bis%2Byour%2Bdaddy

03:07

Finance/Tech background mostly. Sold the IP in my last company I co-Founded with my friend that was at the Rackspace IPO. Just came back from West Africa using drones for geological surveying reselling the data to mining companies/using a prospect generation business model for new opportunities there.

03:11

!!rate mother[m] 1 things.

03:11

mother[m] is not registered in WoT.

03:12

mother[m], once that goes through you'll be able to voice yourself ; feel free to contribute if there's something.

03:12

oh. hm. not registered ?

03:12

I'm on Riot/Matrix, sec.

03:26

!!up mother[m]

03:26

mother[m] voiced for 30 minutes.

03:26

I'll help him get his PGP key setup

03:27

mother[m], don't you find it difficult to do business without pgp ? i mean... how do you even keep comms secret ?

03:27

He's doing that right now

03:27

meanwhile in #entomologist, the great successes of the webworld : https://archive.is/BABpP#selection-1653.0-1650.6

03:35

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mircea_popescu shall bbl.

03:35

mircea_popescu: About how long?

03:48

"The site is under heavy development, data shown could be out of sync. And its full with bugs :-)"

~ 5 hours 8 minutes ~

08:57

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810194 << exactly it. your musl gcc never built, so trb has nothing to be built ~with~. you must find out why it did not build. but i recommend burning your heathen linux to the ground and using danielpbarron's, or trinque's, or mine, gentoo recipe

08:57

Logged on 2018-05-05 06:41 lobbes: possibly relevant thread >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1698646

08:57

the 'make[1]: c: Command not found' thing is dead giveaway.

08:58

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810202 << ah there we go.

08:58

Logged on 2018-05-05 06:48 lobbes: ls: cannot access toolchain/usr/bin/x86_64-therealbitcoin-linux-musl-g++: No such file or directory

09:07

shinohai

Was reading logs this morning and saw: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810071 ... On newer deb/african pthread issues were solved with `libpthread-stubs0-dev` pkg

09:07

Logged on 2018-05-05 05:31 lobbes: mod6 not yet (been working on getting mp-wp migrated to rockchip). Here's the egogg message I got though >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/sOYqV/?raw=true

09:07

shinohai

I remembered it from the agent zero sessions

09:08

shinohai

Anywho, do with it what you will.

~ 24 minutes ~

09:32

hey

09:32

can someone rate mother[m]

09:33

so that he can up himelf

09:36

!!rate mother[m] business dude

09:36

!!rate mother[m] 1 business dude

09:36

Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/akDvx/?raw=true

09:38

!!v B2547117925CBD3576E3D588584F3F90F0596EC1E2B45938E999D44D10F2D98C

09:38

douchebag rated mother[m] 1 << business dude

09:40

!!up mother[m]

09:40

mother[m] voiced for 30 minutes.

09:41

That works.

09:43

@mircea_popescu have one on Keybase I use, but primarily use Signal, Telegram for co-located team members as the interface gradually became more 'Slack-like'

09:44

Going forward I wanted to pivot to Keybase Teams.

09:45

I'm more interested in buying options/forwards on both BTC and ETH.

09:46

To my knowledge, Nadex is the only regulated exchange on the US markets for this right now.

~ 49 minutes ~

10:36

asciilifeform: aha, for those following along, we moved that conversation to #trilema-mod6

~ 23 minutes ~

11:00

diana_coman

phf, further clarifications on your questions re eulora's protocol: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/04/17/rfc-euloras-communication-protocol-eucomms/#comment-1168

~ 1 hours 39 minutes ~

12:40

mother[m], the republic doesn't much care for usg pretense, "regulation" or otherwise. why would you ?

12:40

moreover, website-security is another way of saying no security.

12:44

!!key mother[m]

12:44

http://wot.deedbot.org/7AA8FDF2111A472EC370A85BA3CF0E94E51C0814.asc

12:44

!!rate mother[m] 1 things

12:44

Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/tyuRV/?raw=true

12:45

douchebag, there.

12:47

in other curios, what's drone utility for geosurvey anyway ? is there some relationship between visual presentation and mineral deposits identified meanwhile ? or what, they carry honest to god radars and ultrasound machinery and whatnot ? afaik none of it could be fit in a ten ton truck let alone a hundred gram drone.

12:58

anyway, re bitcoin options (and strictly bitcoin options -- ethereum is not a thing nor can be considered as one anymore than you can consider "real estate" on imaginary planets a part of this discussion) there are two problems.

13:00

the general is that there exists no reliable bitcoin price signal. most (by VERY far most) bitcoin transactions are handled otc, and not reported, and usually settle over non-economic considerations. for instance -- most of the btc the usg has historically lost on the market in its half dozen or so attempts to mainipulate the price were obtained by theft and extortion, not by economic activity, and consequently they didn't ha

13:00

ve a meaningful price anyone ever ascertained.

13:00

it's true that there are some websites printing random numbers, but their fantasies lack any economic substance whatsoever, and therefore eminently can;'t be relied on to price derivative instruments.

13:01

mpex offered options for a long, long time, but mostly because the nascent republic required its currency protected in those early days ; back when i was personaly large enough to maintain some vague semblance of discipline in the marketplace singlehandedly. it's meanwhile wel loutgrown me and so...

13:02

however, the ~personal~ problem is that even in those early days, options systematically expired at the max pain point (as for instance discussed in http://trilema.com/2011/max-pain/ though it was a regular occurence really.

13:02

so if you, mother[m], have other goals than losing your shirt, putting your money in bitcoin options, forwards, whatever time-derivative is exactly the incorrect strategy.

~ 1 hours 2 minutes ~

14:05

aand in other items of entomological interest, the wikipedia take on politicized pseudo-literary criticism is something else. aphra behn is lionized, because they're ever-so-desperate to discover, invent or if need be entirely hallucinate "remarkable" cuntbearers of the shakespeare period that some random jailbird is A HEROINE OF FEMINISM!!!

↖ ↖ ↖

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meanwhile charles gildon is the bad because a) male and b) said the bad about HEROINES OF FEMINISM. and Edmund Curll is just as bad, because he was friends with that baddie gildon. notwithstanding ~100% of what the aspirational class is all the fuck about is, "being a curll of the 21st century", no more and nothing else. somehow the hero of neets is not remarkable to the very neets in question.

14:10

turns out the darkness of what's later referred to as a "dark age" is not actually visible from inside the age in question ; pantsuited morons from crisconius to comnena similarly felt well at ease on their redditardits, wikitardits &cetertardits.

~ 2 hours 31 minutes ~

16:42

BingoBoingo

<mircea_popescu> asciilifeform, nobody's going to send a proper miner to fucking uruguay. you don't even have the power for it there. << Maybe at the dam in Salto, but no way in hell Montevideo.

16:48

many better options for the cheap mw ; and no fucking way a kw farm is worth anyone's time. that'd be like a 12 sq inch diner.

16:49

it's the fucking megawatt standard! not the picowatt or anything.

16:49

<mircea_popescu> turns out the darkness of what's later referred to as a "dark age" is not actually visible from inside the age in question << dunning-kruger ain't just for individuals

16:51

especially compounded by the only truly universal religion, panglossism. what's a pious fraud or two when at stake's not having to get fat ass off couch!

16:52

BingoBoingo

But yeah, in the Pizarro rack would be insanity. For miners in Uruguay to work it would be necessary to take the dam at Salto and mine with the power that would have gone to the Argentine side.

16:52

the funny part is that these are some people for whom simultaneously two things stand : a) that the best thing they can hear about homework is "it's already done" ; and b) that the best possible state is "youth".

16:52

well how the fuck do you reconcile a and b, the only thing about youth is that homework's not fucking done!

16:55

i dunno, i think the best thing they can hear about homework is that they're so special they don't need to do it. their unicornity shall manifest, and better to retain/don the woolies of youth to maximize the potential for manifesting firstbestbiggest.

16:56

i dunno, i suspect hearing that always comes with a however-hidden sense of shame / suspicion. they kinda look like they think it's tgtbt.

16:56

which is possibly another reason why curll/gildon are officially bad; they actively did things, making idle spellcasters look bad.

16:56

the whole "fixation on youth" thing really feeds into the insanity cycle, huh? That age where "anything is possible" as long as you don't let experience (be it from others or self) tell you otherwise

16:57

lobbes, sure, "Everything is possible" -- with the usual caveat that "just as long as it's not big, noteworthy or important". a kid "can do anything" except nothing interesting, something kids generally keenly feel but apparently ustarded adults somehow forget.

16:58

mircea_popescu eh, shame / suspicion are just anxiety / depression! there's pills, and "everybody goes through it" and "it's not their fault" etc

16:58

hanbot, not just DID things ; but did things as if they had license to do things. it's this sort of mental independence that botheres them most re gildon i suspect, "how dares he write biographies exactly LIKE HOW WE WRITE THEM!!! not a word of his is true, nor of the official lifestory of obama-clinton-oprah".

16:59

indeed

17:01

ye olde http://trilema.com/2018/memoranda-of-congress/#selection-157.596-161.1

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"that there was a limit where the flaunting of their foul acts and opinions before the world must stop" aka http://trilema.com/2018/discordatum-wormatiense/ aka "pantsuit is only sovereign"

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"nothing else outside of the empire's walls. this is it", so can do "anything" within that reality, which reduces to "nothing of import". But still, can

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't see the dark age from inside

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cuz it's never dark, from inside. the amusing situation of classical eschatology is that lucifer simply forked the chain, and as best can tell is a very credible and not at all falen angel.

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ie, http://trilema.com/2016/the-darkening/#selection-63.0-67.346

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"For as long as there is even one, all the others have died in vain. And once there's not a single one left, they had never existed altogether in the first place."

17:10

!!up quadsar

17:10

quadsar voiced for 30 minutes.

17:21

aaand in other accidentally exposed lulz, http://data.vtc.pw/

~ 37 minutes ~

17:59

in other news, I have a trb node up now and eating blocks (thanks to mod6 for all his troubleshooting efforts, and asciilifeform for confirmation of suspicions)

17:59

details of resolution can be found over in castle mod6 >> http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema-mod6?d=2018-5-5#350950

17:59

mimisbrunnr

Logged on 2018-05-05 21:42 lobbes: as promised, details: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IBQ84/?raw=true

18:00

I will soon blog this into a proper post.. but mysql on heathen vps shit the bed. Posts to resume once migration to rockchip box complete

18:01

trb on rockchip, lobbes ?

18:05

naw, on heathen cheap dedi

18:05

rockchip will house blog, www, and botworks most likely

18:05

gotcha; what are their rates?

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or who is it

18:06

25 bezzlebucks a month. Some dc in Kansas or something to that effect

18:06

"wholesale internet"

18:07

hdd only, but I got the aggressive patch applied, so will see if it can hack it

~ 32 minutes ~

18:40

!!up phatcat

18:40

phatcat voiced for 30 minutes.

~ 22 minutes ~

19:03

http://qntra.net/2018/05/wife-initiated-pantsuit-code-of-conduct-hypocrisy-leads-to-llvm-developer-departure/ << Qntra - Wife Initiated Pantsuit Code Of Conduct Hypocrisy Leads To LLVM Developer Departure

19:12

http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1757902

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Logged on 2017-12-24 16:11 asciilifeform: kurchatov, supposedly, sat and thought, and few minutes later answered, 'perhaps from philosophical pov this'd be consistent. but then we will have to forget about obtaining the bomb.'

19:13

apparently usg came to terms with llvm failing in its strategic goals being unavoidable by now.

~ 47 minutes ~

20:00

lobbes: great job on getting trb going, and on tying up all the ends so if anyone hits that same problem again!

20:00

o7

20:08

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asciilifeform finally switching on phuctor-werker, 3447567 remaining Framedragger keyz will be crunched.

20:08

( 1000000/shots/key fermat took ~3day and found nuffin new )

20:11

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810259 << holy fuq, i had nfi that particular scamola were still going strong

20:11

Logged on 2018-05-05 13:44 mother[m]: Going forward I wanted to pivot to Keybase Teams.

20:12

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810271 << i suspect that there is no physical operation involved, it is 100% chumpatronics, like all other subjects of usg.startupism at this point

20:12

Logged on 2018-05-05 16:47 mircea_popescu: in other curios, what's drone utility for geosurvey anyway ? is there some relationship between visual presentation and mineral deposits identified meanwhile ? or what, they carry honest to god radars and ultrasound machinery and whatnot ? afaik none of it could be fit in a ten ton truck let alone a hundred gram drone.

20:13

cocktail of voodoo buzzwords in exchange for monopoly money.

20:14

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810275 << it often bothers asciilifeform that we ~use~ the magic numbers erry time we trade usd etc. but i've nothing to propose to replace this

20:14

Logged on 2018-05-05 17:00 mircea_popescu: it's true that there are some websites printing random numbers, but their fantasies lack any economic substance whatsoever, and therefore eminently can;'t be relied on to price derivative instruments.

20:16

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810283 << thinking about this again, i suspect that the age of '1kw miner in half a rack' ended some time in 2013-14

20:16

Logged on 2018-05-05 20:48 mircea_popescu: many better options for the cheap mw ; and no fucking way a kw farm is worth anyone's time. that'd be like a 12 sq inch diner.

20:16

today it would prolly not be worth cost of transport, even if one found it at a junkyard

20:17

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810289 << once in a century you find young+did-homework

20:17

Logged on 2018-05-05 20:52 mircea_popescu: well how the fuck do you reconcile a and b, the only thing about youth is that homework's not fucking done!

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http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810312 << the pilot plant rockchips will sync up to, idk, late 2014, then the 128G disk will fill. ben_vulpes oughta know this.

20:18

Logged on 2018-05-05 22:01 ben_vulpes: trb on rockchip, lobbes ?

20:19

http://btcbase.org/log/2018-05-05#1810322 << this is goodforbitcoin (tm)(r)

20:19

Logged on 2018-05-05 23:03 deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/05/wife-initiated-pantsuit-code-of-conduct-hypocrisy-leads-to-llvm-developer-departure/ << Qntra - Wife Initiated Pantsuit Code Of Conduct Hypocrisy Leads To LLVM Developer Departure

20:29

meanwhile, in other olds : https://archive.li/eRWkM << phuctor, october 2013.

20:34

https://archive.li/WFINU << ditto, may 2015; 18 broken keyz.

20:35

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asciilifeform bbl,meat

~ 18 minutes ~

20:54

asciilifeform, it's not physically possible ; everyone's born a virgin.

~ 18 minutes ~

21:12

asciilifeform: i was asking him not speaking to my own knowledge

21:24

aaand in "readers meet trilema, an ancient story" retrospective lulz, http://trilema.com/2014/consent-is-a-myth-lets-see-how-it-came-to-be/#comment-119601

21:24

ben_vulpes, i thought you were discreetly suggesting not to try.

21:32

very much in the vein of "surely you're not..."

21:33

tis what i thought.

~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~

22:40

Moduli Broken: 2143. over 2k now.

22:45

that's +76 moduli, +50 factors (35% increase). a most interestign crop.

22:46

still writing , btw

22:47

much more productive in terms of new-factors density, huh.

22:47

is this coincidental ?

22:47

well, 3.5mil of new keyz..

22:47

whoknows what's in there.

22:48

anyway, the fact that between 4th of may and 6th of may it churned ~2mn moduli and cracked 76 is, in the terms, context and for the mind of us limp dick "researchers" nothing short of staggering.

22:48

( and yes , we can now swallow 3.5m in 2days )

22:48

apparently the republic has nsa hardware!!1

22:48

takes about 70GB of ram to run.

22:49

( peak )

22:49

asciilifeform, anyway, i suppose after the jurov set is also fed a new fermatting is in order ? considering there's a lot of new numbers to play with.

22:49

ie, the factors set changed significantly enough

22:49

fermat, and conventional , both

22:49

will run.

22:49

aha. so this is covered for what, about 2 weeks (tm) ?

22:49

approx

22:50

then we can do sks.

22:50

then time for new Framedragger-style hunt. or ssl hunt.

22:50

funny how the "journalists" with "interests" are all covering the various broken ssh keys in the wild.

22:50

oh hey massive new burst

22:50

asciilifeform, you mean a fresh sks dump ? are we running a server or how did that go ?

22:51

nope, recall, it requires a cooperating existing sks server. we -- leech manually.

22:51

factors 236 << check that out! it practically doubled it.

22:51

exciting times.

22:51

takes a day or 2 to grab a snapshot of sks. another day to cut it. then swallows in 1-2d

22:52

asciilifeform, i suppose the fact of the matter is, as keys get added the likeliness of broken moduli staying secret drops... which may account for the seeming density increase.

22:52

correct

22:52

let's leave some crumbs for the archival : http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/stats

22:53

asciilifeform, anyway, ima try an' write this up after the two weeks. unless you want to ?

22:54