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02:54 lobbes phew. I finally got logbot genesis up and inserting log lines into a database on my test machine. Hardest thing was figuring out the config knobs for postgres (and side-quests such as libuuid)
02:54 lobbes Once I migrate this to pizarro shell, I plan to harvest my notes for a detailed n00b guide on standing up a 'vanilla' logbot (with focus on operating out of /home for pizarro shellists)
02:57 mircea_popescu nice!
03:10 lobbes I appreciate the suggested course correction earlier mircea_popescu. Now, after a week or so of toiling, I come out of the experience with more knowledge about V, sbcl, and postgres instead of painfully acquired trivia about dead-end things such as 'tcl' or the not-long-for-this-world gribble
03:11 mircea_popescu word.
03:15 mircea_popescu diana_coman, ahh it's nice to be back to braiding cordage...
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03:57 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: ssh pubkey pls
03:57 mircea_popescu use diana_coman's.
03:58 ben_vulpes diana_coman: ssh pubkey pls
04:03 mircea_popescu you already set a server for her yes ?
04:04 mircea_popescu in other lulz : samuel l jackson is billed as "black guy" in http://trilema.com/2009/sea-of-love/
04:09 ben_vulpes holy doodle i think that i do
04:09 ben_vulpes notes ftw
04:11 mircea_popescu the whole wot-isp thing is already paying off.
04:11 mircea_popescu this is what i fucking wanted from the get-go.
04:11 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T8PHEAHOBs
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04:35 ben_vulpes diana_coman: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rRa4q/?raw=true
04:35 * ben_vulpes bbl
04:36 ben_vulpes my body is reacting very poorly to spring this year
04:41 diana_coman ben_vulpes, ack & confirmed I'm in
04:46 ave1 http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-23#1804661, can confirm arrival last week, I unpacked it yesterday, all layers seem to have been intact / untampered with!
04:46 a111 Logged on 2018-04-23 00:35 asciilifeform: ave1 didja get it ?
04:46 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes and it only goes downhill from here.
04:46 mircea_popescu nice ave1 !
04:48 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes, send me invoice for rest of year for it too.
04:49 mircea_popescu incidentally, is your "standard" mpwp installation linkbroken by default ?
04:49 diana_coman ben_vulpes, I don't need the wp stuff; what do I need to do to nuke it ?
04:49 mircea_popescu rm -rs!!
04:53 diana_coman lol
05:01 diana_coman or uhm, ben_vulpes what's the link at which *my stuff* is served?
05:05 mircea_popescu diana_coman, this usually goes the other way around : he tells you a ns, and i set the domain to point to it.
05:06 mircea_popescu last time the process resembled pulling teeth, eventually ended up using qntra's ns.
05:06 mircea_popescu they still have to create a zone for you.
05:06 diana_coman I was hoping that part was already done :D
05:06 diana_coman since I did not get any ns anyway
05:07 diana_coman so basically now I can plonk all my stuff in there and ...wait
05:08 mircea_popescu just about. you should be able to use the old reference style though, http://ip/~username/
05:09 diana_coman apparently not: "not found"
05:10 diana_coman I tried that first, earlier
05:10 mircea_popescu i dunno wtf defaults they use.
05:10 diana_coman hence my q to ben_vulpes as to what link I can use to see my stuff at all
05:12 mircea_popescu word. ima bbl.
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10:24 mod6 Mornin TMSR~
10:25 diana_coman morning mod6 !
10:25 mircea_popescu hola
10:27 * mod6 waves
10:28 mod6 The weather has finally turned here! A few nice spring days we've had, after 6 months of winter.
10:43 mircea_popescu nice then huh
10:46 mod6 Sure beats rolling blizzards, that's for sure.
10:51 mod6 Ugh, this coffee is horribru.
10:51 mod6 :D
10:59 mircea_popescu aww.
10:59 mircea_popescu life's too short for bad coffee.
11:08 mod6 yeah, I could probably degrease my lawn-mower engine with this rot.
11:15 mircea_popescu why don't you come over ? i'll buy you a bag.
11:19 mod6 That'd be wonderful. I'd like to give real coffee a-go.
11:22 mod6 I saw on of your pictures (I think from a breakfast table), where it looked like there was a funnel/filter direct into the cup.
11:24 mod6 *one
11:26 mod6 http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/iguana-1.jpg
11:27 mod6 Looks amazing!
11:36 mircea_popescu yup.
11:36 mircea_popescu they do not give a flying fuck over here, use 1/4 lb of fresh ground coffee for one cup, throw it away.
11:36 mod6 O.O
11:36 mircea_popescu it's like it grows on trees.
11:36 mod6 lol
11:36 mircea_popescu mod6, i kid you not, that's what you saw there.
11:37 mod6 Coffee opulence
11:44 BingoBoingo diana_coman: Do you need any DNS records other than one pointing to your slice?
11:44 * asciilifeform waves
11:45 mod6 Morning asciilifeform, feeling any better?
11:45 asciilifeform sorta
11:48 BingoBoingo Are your parotids normal sized?
11:49 asciilifeform afaik
11:51 BingoBoingo Probably not mumps then
11:52 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, yes lobbes needs logs.minigame.bz forwarded.
11:54 BingoBoingo lobbes: Where do you need logs.minigame.biz pointed?
11:54 mircea_popescu .bz
11:56 BingoBoingo ty
11:57 lobbes BingoBoingo: 192.121.170.137 plox
12:03 BingoBoingo Aite, there is a zone on ns1.qntra.net and ns2.qntra.net for minigame.bz
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12:36 mircea_popescu diana_coman, say when ready i'll make the switch.
12:51 deedbot http://thetarpit.org/posts/y04/070-bucharest-botanical-garden.html << The Tar Pit - Bucharest botanical garden in the spring, as viewed through a couple of camera lenses
12:55 diana_coman mircea_popescu, I've transfered the stuff to the folder from ben_vulpes said apache serves; but more than that I can't check/see
12:56 mircea_popescu aite let's see what happens if i plif the switch.
12:58 mircea_popescu ugh somehow i fucked this up
12:58 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo, it's .biz not .bz! sorry!
12:58 BingoBoingo Aite, one sec
12:59 mircea_popescu i have nfi how this is even fucking possible, but my dns zone is currently ns1 ns2.minigame.bz EXCEPT the domain is .biz
12:59 mircea_popescu holy shit what the fuck is going on here.
13:02 mircea_popescu oooh i see the problem. ok so, i owned both .biz and .bz, back when i used namecheap. i transferred the latter but not the former to namesilo back when all those shenanigans occured. so .bz item is captive in namecheap, Registry Expiry Date: 2019-07-01T16:40:17Z. but basically i'm letting it lapse ; so erryone will have to update to the .biz version and we can pretend this all never occured.
13:03 mircea_popescu so BingoBoingo use .biz plox ; lobbes you'll be logs.minigame.biz rather than logs.minigame.bz as before. sorry about that.
13:03 BingoBoingo Aite, good to go
13:05 mircea_popescu done here as well.
13:11 ben_vulpes diana_coman: server is configured to respond to minigame.bz, per ^^ will be updating to serve minigame.biz and www.minigame.biz
13:11 * ben_vulpes laboring under serious immune system load and cognitive deficit
13:12 diana_coman ben_vulpes, k
13:19 ben_vulpes diana_coman: everything in ~/www needs to be 0755, may i effect that for you?
13:22 * trinque suggests something like diana_coman:apache and 0750
13:23 ben_vulpes yeah?
13:24 ben_vulpes i'm all ears, i've erred to date on what i think is safer but i lack a model
13:24 ben_vulpes trinque: that makes total sense
13:27 trinque if you do chmod g+rX it'll make directories traversable, but not go around marking everything executable
13:28 trinque can then do something like find /path/to/www -iname '*.php' -exec chmod g+x {} \;
13:28 ben_vulpes right, neat
13:31 diana_coman ben_vulpes, yes, go ahead
13:32 diana_coman trinque's suggestions sounds good to me
13:34 lobbes Aite. I'll have to make some minor tweaks later to reflect the new domain extension. Will let you know once logz are back in business >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-23#1804804
13:34 a111 Logged on 2018-04-23 17:03 mircea_popescu: so BingoBoingo use .biz plox ; lobbes you'll be logs.minigame.biz rather than logs.minigame.bz as before. sorry about that.
13:37 ben_vulpes diana_coman: website appears up to me, although that may just be /etc/hosts, i'm not up to speed on dns propagation yet
13:41 diana_coman I can't yet see it from here - will give it some time and check again later
13:42 ben_vulpes yup, just checked without local routing and no resolution.
13:43 diana_coman btw thanks BingoBoingo
13:46 BingoBoingo diana_coman: No problem at all
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14:30 deedbot http://qntra.net/2018/04/cisco-products-hit-with-vulnerability-in-firms-security-markup-language/ << Qntra - Cisco Products Hit With Vulnerability In Firm's "Security Markup Language"
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14:47 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/GzCyC/?raw=true
14:56 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: ack
14:56 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: ty
14:56 BingoBoingo no, ty
15:10 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-23#1804815 << in this particular case it's nothing but a filestore, mostly for things like ... o hey look lobbes , eulora log no-go.
15:10 a111 Logged on 2018-04-23 17:27 trinque: if you do chmod g+rX it'll make directories traversable, but not go around marking everything executable
15:10 mircea_popescu annnd no, minigame.biz does not resolve. BingoBoingo ben_vulpes ^
15:10 mircea_popescu you really need this to work easier than multi-day multi-attempt sorta thing.
15:10 mircea_popescu "Begin testing delegation for minigame.biz. Name servers listed at parent: ns1.qntra.net,ns2.qntra.net Failed to find name servers of minigame.biz/IN. No name servers found at child." <
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15:53 BingoBoingo My bad, I forgot a line break answers now http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ME8bh/?raw=true
15:54 mircea_popescu therew we go, foncirned.
15:55 mircea_popescu shit internal references broken also. diana_coman when you have a moment run a sed /minigame.bz/minigame.biz/ plox.
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16:30 diana_coman ugh mircea_popescu I changed to minigame.biz and now the ownership of the files reverted to me and therefore index.html not available and it's again screwed; ben_vulpes ?
16:32 diana_coman gah, I meant: permissions got screwed, not ownership
16:36 diana_coman I'm not sure how this will work if groupownership of file changes from apache to my user every time I modify a file
16:39 diana_coman files created in the ~/www dir should default /inherit apache group
16:39 mircea_popescu diana_coman, you can just chown yourself neh
16:39 mircea_popescu chown -r diana:apache or w/e
16:40 diana_coman mircea_popescu, I need to change the *group*
16:40 mircea_popescu was it apache:diana ?!
16:40 diana_coman no,I need to change from diana:diana to diana:apache
16:40 diana_coman hm
16:40 mircea_popescu so do that.
16:41 mircea_popescu but i'll admit this sounds somewhat awkward.
16:41 diana_coman iirc that required root rights but will try
16:43 diana_coman myah, operation not permitted
16:43 diana_coman ben_vulpes, plox fix ^
16:44 mircea_popescu well wait a second, wtf fix is this, "you can either edit your files or have them served by apache but not both" ?!
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17:15 diana_coman since it seems the fix to the fix is another wait, I'll set for now 755 on the files as otherwise ckang still won't be able to get the client and try the game
17:17 ben_vulpes $user:$user and 0755 is what's been most useful on other sites; i think that'd be best here as well
17:17 diana_coman why exactly?
17:18 diana_coman I think trinque's suggestion makes perfect sense, as long as new files get by default user:apache too
17:19 ben_vulpes ok i'll look into how to make new files inherit from parent dirs
17:21 spyked TIL: setgid (g+s) should do the trick.
17:23 mircea_popescu fwiw, all trilema.com files are trilema:trilema and somehow(tm) work.
17:27 ben_vulpes spyked: thx, now to figure out what needs installing from portage to get setgid
17:29 ben_vulpes ah i think i see how to get it with chmod
17:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: is there a working mpex url ? i am standing snsa www / phuctor up today
17:30 asciilifeform and the old one (.biz) dunwork
17:30 mircea_popescu nope not yet.
17:30 mircea_popescu but will be same one, so don't worry about it.
17:30 asciilifeform ok ty
17:31 ben_vulpes okay, gotit. diana_coman i'm going to run chmod -R g+srX your www dir
17:31 diana_coman ben_vulpes, ok
17:32 ben_vulpes please confirm that new files show up as diana_coman:apache
17:35 diana_coman ben_vulpes, new files show up as diana_coman:apache BUT apparently still not with the right permissions to get served
17:37 diana_coman at least I can change the permissions though to what they need
17:38 ben_vulpes well that's still not great; they're not inheriting from the parent directory?
17:39 diana_coman the file inherited the group ownership but not the group permissions from what I can tell
17:40 trinque eh actually there were cobwebs between my ears when I gave that suggestion
17:40 ben_vulpes i suppose they wouldn't, that being controlled by umask
17:40 trinque probably easier move is to just add apache to the diana group
17:40 diana_coman i.e. new file had r and write for user but nothing for group
17:40 ben_vulpes diana_coman: yeah i think that comes from the user-level umask, which as i understand it sets permissions on individual files on create
17:50 deedbot http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2277 << Loper OS - The Return of Phuctor!
17:51 asciilifeform snsa www also updated.
17:51 asciilifeform folx with snsa links to archive.is -- feel free to switch back to the realthing.
17:54 BingoBoingo asciilifeform diana_coman Congrats
17:55 asciilifeform ty BingoBoingo
17:56 asciilifeform nao with ~100x faster db
17:56 asciilifeform ( combo of ssd and various postgresisms )
17:56 ben_vulpes i am interested in the postgrestisms you used
17:57 ben_vulpes ah i actually had a conversation with a little lady about the 'dirty read' thing last night
17:57 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: wouldja believe, nothing exotic
17:57 asciilifeform ... indices.
17:57 asciilifeform i had nfi they existed.
17:57 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: lolk
17:58 asciilifeform book-larnin'(tm)(r)
17:58 ben_vulpes megawatt of iron or two indices hue
17:59 asciilifeform i didn't go to no db school, lel, ben_vulpes
18:00 asciilifeform at any rate -- it worx.
18:00 * trinque chortles
18:00 asciilifeform chortle, it's fair.
18:00 trinque naw, congrats on phuctor's rebirth!
18:00 asciilifeform ty trinque !
18:01 asciilifeform trinque: lemme know when you've added the rss back in; i'ma start up the werker later tonight
18:01 * asciilifeform bbl, meat
18:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, o hey!
18:03 * ben_vulpes only ever attended cs program of hard knocks
18:04 mircea_popescu http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/ << sweet.
18:04 mircea_popescu now let's test the keys of folk who showed up in the meanwhile huh.
18:04 diana_coman ben_vulpes, trinque this is just too brittle : how about moving dirs/files in there?
18:04 trinque did ya see my last?
18:05 diana_coman so I guess it'll have to be 755
18:05 mircea_popescu !!key zx2c4
18:05 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/AB9942E6D4A4CFC3412620A749FC7012A5DE03AE.asc
18:05 mircea_popescu http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/8EEE946DA699B07DBC900780CEAF6AF1D30A962583586D3372E6C0C30688846C << ha-HA!
18:08 ben_vulpes diana_coman: shall i add apache to the diana_coman group before you 755 up?
18:09 * ben_vulpes sitting for remedial unix permissionsology at SOHN this afternoon
18:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> i had nfi they existed. << well they were mentioned duyring the 3-4 optimization threads about 3-5x each time, but...
18:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: funnily enuff still, i laboured under the misconceived notion that they existed ~by default~
18:13 mircea_popescu do what indices i mean!
18:13 asciilifeform didn't occur to me for even a moment that it doesn't make a btree for all params!!
18:13 asciilifeform believe or not
18:13 asciilifeform had to read the fucking docs, to learn this.
18:13 mircea_popescu anuyway, i can see the angle ; but it's one of those cases where ai is much cheaper than just letting the person make the settings.
18:13 mircea_popescu they take space, see ? lots of space.
18:13 ben_vulpes \dt woulda shown you indices on the table too asciilifeform
18:13 mircea_popescu some of my heavy hit tables are 60% indexes by weight.
18:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i also laboured under the notion that the thing 1) auto-indexed 2) to fill available space
18:14 mircea_popescu yawell. different decade.
18:14 asciilifeform (2) was suggested by all of the various lit suggesting 'expand room given for indices'
18:14 diana_coman ben_vulpes, no, enough experimenting I'd say
18:14 ben_vulpes thanks for your patience diana_coman
18:15 asciilifeform ok i'ma genuinely bbl
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20:06 mod6 danielpbarron: got it! Thanks for the t-shirt too. Fits good.
20:06 asciilifeform http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/faq << 'credits' links, being old deceased btcalpha links, fixed , replaced with modern wot.deedbot
20:07 asciilifeform if anybody spots other dead linx -- plox to write in.
20:08 ben_vulpes sweet, asciilifeform !
20:10 asciilifeform hanbot: in http://thewhet.net/2018/04/mp-wp-genesis some of the linx are broken ( have mysterious chars in'em )
20:11 ben_vulpes fg is a nice addition
20:14 asciilifeform danielpbarron: my link to http://danielpbarron.com/2017/fucking-goats/ is a 404...
20:14 asciilifeform danielpbarron: is it coming back, or should i remove it on my side
20:15 hanbot ty asciilifeform, fixt.
20:28 asciilifeform !Q later tell BingoBoingo http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/q1izn/?raw=true
20:28 lobbesbot asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
20:40 asciilifeform !!subscribe http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/rss
20:40 deedbot asciilifeform subscription to http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/rss failed
20:40 asciilifeform hmm is this meant to work ? trinque ? ^
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21:02 asciilifeform ... meanwhile i've resumed feeding the thing. we're on parcel #8 of the Framedragger set ( of a total of 13 ) .
21:03 asciilifeform after these get eaten, prolly will be ripe for a refresh of sks
21:03 mircea_popescu z
21:03 asciilifeform ( we last did sks in 2016 )
21:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform, iirc he said he does it by hand
21:03 asciilifeform aaaa
21:03 asciilifeform ok, will then have to wait for trinque to wake up, then will reactivate werker
21:14 * asciilifeform wonders who the regular l0gz reader in the darkest africa of the inside washington dc city walls is... phf ?
21:16 phf asciilifeform: if something hit your phuctor logs from dc just now, that would be me, yes
21:16 asciilifeform lolk
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22:10 trinque asciilifeform: I added it; fire away
22:10 trinque the !!subscribe lever is detached, yes, since it used to run back to a pretty sad pile of duct tape.
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22:52 * trinque understands spyked to be working on a superior rsstron
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23:46 asciilifeform trinque: ty; activated.
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