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00:03 trinque I've disappeared down a hole of "right wing" meme'd up twatter
00:03 trinque what is this
00:09 trinque this animator chick looks like skanks I used to drink with in portland
00:09 trinque I approve of this movement.
00:09 mircea_popescu so buy her a drink
00:10 trinque no skank is worth pennsylvania
00:10 mircea_popescu no skank is bolted down, either.
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00:35 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> no skank is bolted down, either. << of all things, this having not been done by mp irl surprises me. It's not like bolts are permanent. Not like welding them down
00:36 * asciilifeform wishes only to achieve even small piece of what $subj achieved before dead
00:37 mircea_popescu meh, makes a mess
00:38 BingoBoingo It's not like you gotta bolt the meat. Cuff the meat, bolt the cuffs.
00:39 mircea_popescu well, that i've done plenty eh.
00:39 mircea_popescu definitionally what a dungeon is neh
00:39 BingoBoingo AHA, hence my surprise
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05:54 shinohai http://archive.is/9LKrS <<< Shinohai's shitty trading pair of the week (tm) (r)
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07:48 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/93833359D32C83AD04A84E858016B8D61BDA78B82A223E731C40C7F2C94A5627 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1465459459517330657028932233425 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Martin Weinelt <mweinelt@gmail.com>; Martin Weinelt <martin@linuxlounge.net>; Martin Weinelt <martin.weinelt@stud.tu-darmstadt.de>; Martin Weinelt (BP DART-Racing WS2010/11) <martin.weinelt@dart-racing.de>; '
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08:36 asciilifeform !~ticker
08:36 jhvh1 asciilifeform: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 2314.3, Best ask: 2316.2, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 2316.0, 24 hour volume: 53787.68533689, 24 hour low: 2103.1, 24 hour high: 2654.4, 24 hour vwap: None
08:37 asciilifeform in recent lulz, https://archive.is/yoT9a >> hilariously draconian 'money laundering' ban proposed in usg
08:39 asciilifeform aka, possibly, 'the cokemachine act'
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10:28 * mircea_popescu just picked up a phone for the first time in what must be about five years.
10:29 mircea_popescu i tell you it's kinda weird, that moment when you don't know who the fuck is calling and what they want.
10:38 BingoBoingo Oh, who was their daddy and what do they do?
10:38 mircea_popescu random administrative thing. very happy/scared to hear me of all people
10:38 BingoBoingo Oh my!
10:39 BingoBoingo "I read the coal-burning article, and I am ashamed to tell you that Szabo, who was ultimately killed by his misinformed white guilt, is of Hungarian descent as far as his name goes" << From the comments on http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4963
10:39 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know this weird lsd shit isn't actually bad, visually ? or aurally for that matter.
10:39 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo what, "just liek soros" ?
10:40 BingoBoingo lol, aha. Apparently Szabo hitting people's bozo meter is beginning to be found in the wild
10:40 mircea_popescu wtf is this "white guilt" bs, also.
10:41 mircea_popescu it's like fat people coming up with "walk guilt" to explain why they ain't getting out of bed. notwithstanding "they're perfectly healthy, can even stand!!11"
10:41 mircea_popescu "o dude i just think of all the celenterates, oysters and snails and things and it's just too overwhelming. damned negros DON'T EVEN HAVE LEGS!"
10:42 mircea_popescu meanwhile on the boston thurf, an oyster was eating a woman right out of her plate.
10:42 BingoBoingo OH, apparently different szabo "Take the late Brian Szabo for example. Brian Szabo, originally from Ohio, and formerly residing in Richmond, Virginia, was an executive with SunTrust bank. Considering the subject of this article, you’ll find it ironic that his title with SunTrust was “Vice President for Corporate Operational Risk.”"
10:43 BingoBoingo From http://therightstuff.biz/2016/07/27/tales-of-the-coal-burning/
10:44 BingoBoingo "In addition, who invites a guy who had no job or family ties and whose only source of income was a mental disability stipend into your home? Nigel Walker, a gud boi who dindu nuffin, was essentially an adopted pet of the Szabo family and, in turn, he brutally stabbed the late Brian Szabo in the neck. Police found Szabo in a pool of his own blood in his posh West End neighborhood home. "
10:44 mircea_popescu dude what is with this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins
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10:44 mircea_popescu are these people LOOKING for a way to fuck up ?
10:46 mircea_popescu this is what they do instead of coming here. fucktards.
10:46 mircea_popescu !!rate szabo -10 "you'll die as you lived, in a flash of the blade, a fucktard remembered by no-one..."
10:46 deedbot szabo is not registered in WoT.
10:46 mircea_popescu obviously.
10:46 BingoBoingo Well, wha can the daiper do in the trash can except complain the candy wrapper next to it is sticky
10:50 mircea_popescu "can't have slavegirls like proper white males, on their knees naked, that'd be too... you know, like right, and proper. no, no, must invite random twink to rule the posh bullshit etcetera"
10:51 mircea_popescu mp's questionnaire is growing. "are you living in a retired low level us-politruk / inteligentsia zone ?" "do you live with some punk pet you picked off the street ?"
10:52 mircea_popescu remarkably how well it covers the "republic's allies" that aren't either of the republic or its allies.
10:52 mircea_popescu it's almost as if all these idiots saw a clockwork orange, and decided "yes, that is what i wish to do with my life! i wanna be THAT loser!"
10:54 trinque bahaha, entirely the formula for the 4chan nazi thing. "this was the most transgressive thing I could find. no es un pais pobre!"
10:56 mircea_popescu hm ?
10:56 trinque that chick that made the psychedelic dog video claims to be a nazi.
10:56 trinque presumably of the 4chan.org/pol variety
10:57 mircea_popescu oh.
10:57 mircea_popescu 3rd wave nazis and 6th wave feminists duke it out in the dream machine!
10:59 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-15#1670676 << marieantoinetting
10:59 a111 Logged on 2017-06-15 14:44 mircea_popescu: dude what is with this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins
10:59 mircea_popescu i guess.
11:00 asciilifeform miniaturized version of, whoever, billgates's 'i'm not a marauding piece of shit, i'm a PHILANTHROPIST!111'
11:00 mircea_popescu i dunno dood, nobody buys it.
11:00 mircea_popescu just a perverse old man with weird hangups.
11:00 asciilifeform it isn't connected to a feedbacktron
11:00 asciilifeform dun matter whether anyone buys.
11:01 mircea_popescu i thought it was entirely for "look in the mirror" narcisiac purposes.
11:01 asciilifeform orlol had an old piece re 'philanthropy' being part of decomposition/putrefaction process
11:01 asciilifeform where the wealth a koschei sucks up during life, begins to splurt out
11:01 mircea_popescu obviously is. there is ONE WAY to do resource allocation, and if it's not used what you got is socialist rot.
11:02 asciilifeform sooo, hypothesis here could be, that you dun need to be rockefeller to undergo this form of putrefaction: under the right conditions, 'middle class' derps also could.
11:03 mircea_popescu seems that their answer to "my god, we built fucking korea, our kids would rather hang themselves than come back home and therer's absolutely nothing to buy" is to take in a retard for a cat.
11:03 asciilifeform same reason they did the 'free the slaves' thing
11:03 asciilifeform 'captive audience of guaranteed gratefuls' notion.
11:04 mircea_popescu oh that's what it is.
11:04 mircea_popescu well no fucking wonder they're stabbing them in the fucking eyes, jhesus
11:04 mircea_popescu it's a wonder they don't also urinate on the writhing cadaver.
11:04 asciilifeform same reason why the old slaves are lafonding them in the eye
11:04 asciilifeform to this day
11:04 mircea_popescu world makes perfect sense to me now.
11:05 mircea_popescu "oh, if i do this, people will have to like me!" wtf nonsense.
11:05 asciilifeform iirc most of this was on trilema already.
11:05 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i guess it was.
11:05 mircea_popescu reason people write things is so others read the things back to them, huh.
11:06 asciilifeform possibly.
11:06 trinque pretty common american 80s movie trope, right? "ends up liked! the end."
11:06 mircea_popescu it's even in seinfeld. "i'd have all this money and people would love me" george costanza daydreaming of philantrophy.
11:06 mircea_popescu philatrophy*
11:07 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: incidentally reading the djb thing left asciilifeform with impression that $derp could also have been part of a 'cuck' scenario
11:07 mircea_popescu from experience, that sort of thing is decided by the woman declaring, not by looks.
11:07 asciilifeform ( djb lives with one of his coauthors -- unofficial wife of sorts )
11:09 mircea_popescu trinque i guess it is at that.
11:09 asciilifeform entirely possible that the man lives 'under the heel', like, e.g., saharov
11:09 mircea_popescu sure it's possible, but i'm telling you, "how it looks" is a terrible heuristic.
11:10 asciilifeform hey all i got here is this'ere light from 50 lightyears off..
11:10 mircea_popescu yes well, if girl attempts to make carrot cake with "All i got here are these potatoes" she gets in trouble.
11:16 mircea_popescu aaand in other news, who wants to wire 2.5k for me ?
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11:37 mircea_popescu !!up daffadil
11:37 deedbot daffadil voiced for 30 minutes.
11:42 shinohai Welcome daffadil
11:43 daffadil Thank you shinohai
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11:43 deedbot B4338076C48E09C37C900F28D73BBEDFECE35DD4 registered as daffadil.
11:43 mircea_popescu o hey. who might you be ?
11:44 daffadil I was recommended here by Gabe Laddel
11:44 daffadil Currently learning the ropes and reading
11:44 mircea_popescu a cool.
11:44 daffadil I am a biology/artist/human
11:44 mircea_popescu well, say if you have questions.
11:45 mircea_popescu !!rate daffadil 1 biology/artist/human
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11:45 daffadil Will do ~
11:45 mircea_popescu !!v DC975E8D241C6A5C3FBFC9B19269498161CC014D43585A24FE8D45CA390AF874
11:45 deedbot mircea_popescu rated daffadil 1 << biology/artist/human
11:46 shinohai Any examples of thy art daffadil ?
11:46 daffadil Sure...... https://www.flickr.com/photos/daniel_friedman/
11:48 shinohai Fractal surrealism
11:51 daffadil Hehe, something like that ~~
11:57 daffadil don't understand the "Get your OTP" message from deedbot, whose key encrypted it?
11:58 mircea_popescu you encrypt to a key. in this case yours.
11:58 shinohai See also http://deedbot.org/
11:59 daffadil Ok thanks.
12:03 mircea_popescu daffadil oh i misunderstood what you were asking. i gave deedbot an order, and to verify my identity it encrypted something to my key. that string in !!v
12:06 daffadil +mircea_popescu so I don't need to do anything with that deedbot OTP message?
12:06 mircea_popescu no. it was for me.
12:06 daffadil Ok.....many interesting features and I am enjoying being enfolded within them......
12:07 mircea_popescu takes a while to get to the bottom of it
12:08 mircea_popescu daffadil say !!up to it in a private message
12:19 phf mircea_popescu: do romanians eat buckwheat?
12:21 phf i cook it at the office from time to time, and every time i get "wtf" reactions, and not just from the infidels, but from eastern europeans too. slovenian (slovak?) girl at the office was very confused by it, what is it? how do you eat it? why do you eat it?
12:21 asciilifeform phf: i had to teach pet to make it
12:21 asciilifeform afaik nobody in usa eats any such thing as манная каша
12:22 phf "baby you want me to cook you some GRECHKA!!1"
12:22 asciilifeform lel
12:23 asciilifeform iirc jurov is a slovak . hey jurov , do you folx eat buckwheat ?
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12:24 * shinohai loves buckwheat pancakes
12:26 mircea_popescu phf old style romanians do, yeah.
12:26 mircea_popescu afaik casha was a very ... jewish retirement home thing in the us, limited to east coast.
12:27 phf i think ashkenazim might've brought it to u.s. as "kasha", i.e. explicitly buckwheat porridge, rather than porridge in general
12:27 phf ha
12:27 mircea_popescu right.
12:27 mircea_popescu i also didn't know non-ukr russkis eat it :D
12:27 mircea_popescu do you salo also ?
12:27 asciilifeform pretty sure you need direct access to the pig to get salo in usa
12:29 mircea_popescu hey, in ro too, if you won't eat crap.
12:29 mircea_popescu !!up daffadil
12:29 deedbot daffadil voiced for 30 minutes.
12:32 phf yeah, my mother's line is a mongrel lemki, ashkenazi and polish, so i grew up on a yushka, salo, holubtsi, but also like chopped liver, goulash, knish, etc.
12:33 mircea_popescu i love slanina. properly smoked and with proper ro 52proof shine... o ya
12:33 mircea_popescu impossible to get outside of traditional transylvanian farm tho, in my exp
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12:56 phf there's a faux butcher shop in georgetown that sells various eastern european meets at premium, but i doubt the quality. their salo is questionable. my mom is working on a project in ukrain at the moment, so she's been sending photos of vodka carafe & large slabs of salo
12:58 phf http://www.stachowskimarket.com
13:02 mircea_popescu o, photos help ;/
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13:50 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1669950 >>> apparently it's back..
13:50 a111 Logged on 2017-06-14 04:19 BingoBoingo: Well it shouldn't have been so fat. Nao it's got butterbrain.
13:50 asciilifeform ( e.g. https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/ finds 8 nodes )
13:51 asciilifeform !!up eplogos
13:51 deedbot eplogos voiced for 30 minutes.
14:02 asciilifeform aaand nao for something compleeetly different , in archaeology of dead cultures : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teDn-GTeDVs
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14:24 lobbes http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670306 << amusingly, this is great for pharma-coin though; 1) sell the "ourdemocracy you-are-worth-it-and-can-do-anything" message, 2) create populace of people that end up 'depressed' and feeling 'unfulfilled' because they are fulfilling their natural role as non-human, but told otherwise, 3) extract $>sustenance in form of 'anti-depression' drugz
14:24 a111 Logged on 2017-06-14 15:27 mircea_popescu: and the whole story of "oh, 1800 style squalor and poverty and five points erradicated!!! great ourdemocracy progress!!!" is really just very caked on masking upon the base fact that "we redirected all resources away from fun, so that now there's nothing to do but wait to die a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670156
14:24 * lobbes starting to grok how bone-fide slavery is actually the 'more humane' model
14:24 mircea_popescu lobbes o ya.
14:25 asciilifeform lobbes: dr. mengele was a saint and humanitarian compared to the folx presently in the saddle, aha
14:25 mircea_popescu lobbes the whole thing revolves around the valuation of lying. for the people that judge lying as a primum malum, proper slavery is the more humane model. for the people who judge lying as the primum bonum, the us/su nonsense is the more humane model.
14:26 mircea_popescu in the end the question comes down to, do you feel like a man, or do you feel like a woman ? just don't lie to me or lie to me prettily ?
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14:27 lobbes makes sense
14:27 trinque all the insanity around "identifying as" points directly to it. most folks *cannot* form an identity outside being told what they are. having been told incoherent nonsense, little wonder the starving creatures flail for control of the mechanism
14:28 mircea_popescu and this is not ideology, but biology. if you have a sexuate species, then THEREFORE you will have a female (defined as, carrying the burden to term).
14:28 trinque the drugs are in that sense the same as the "I am a pony", both towards a feeling
14:28 mircea_popescu as you've made this a biological necessity by your "sexuate" idea, it then follows that about half the population will enjoy the passive benefit of the other half being fucked over. as in, bars wouild be a lot fuller and service a lot crappier if women also crowded them.
14:29 mircea_popescu and therefore, the female will want to be lied to prettily. because lied to she will be, and she knows this. there's no way to window dress the cost of sexuate reproduction into anything else. though they try.
14:29 mircea_popescu and so...
14:32 trinque puts the female behaviors in context. "I'm going to be parasitized as a matter of course, better fatten up, hide, etc"
14:32 mircea_popescu ayup.
14:33 mircea_popescu things make perfect sense once one stops trying to lie about what they are.
14:38 mircea_popescu and it's a significant cost, at that. the A grade baby is at birth three kilograms worth about 8 calories per gram, plus a metabolic average of about 650 calories a day over its forty week womb life.
14:38 mircea_popescu comes to a whole lotta bison.
14:42 mircea_popescu add to this the grandiose benefit of you know, i sit around all day while girls work their ass off at the gym three times a week, yet my ass is still firmer and i can lift them and throw them because hey, fuck you for hoping.
14:42 mircea_popescu and teh picture is pretty clear.
14:44 asciilifeform !~calc 40 * 7 * 650 * 4184 / ( 34.2 * 10**6 )
14:44 jhvh1 asciilifeform: 40 * 7 * 650 * 4184 / ( 34.2 * 10**6 ) = 22.265730994152047
14:44 asciilifeform litres of petrol
14:44 mircea_popescu ya but... what petrol lol
14:44 mircea_popescu at thye time all this is relevantly going on, a sharpened stick goes on the open market for fifty two plain sticks.
14:44 asciilifeform no but to put 'mega-energy-cost' in picture .
14:44 asciilifeform and noshit.jpg
14:45 mircea_popescu myeah. it is mega-cost, because hunted bison only counts about 4kcal per kg.
14:45 mircea_popescu more like 2.5 or so if you weigh the carcass fresh, as opposed to filleted.
14:45 asciilifeform aaha. but the balanced picture of 'pharma wars' etc. is 'today very different costs'
14:45 asciilifeform than 100k.yr. prior
14:46 mircea_popescu no, see, because by now it's entirely baked in the culture.
14:46 mircea_popescu biology doesn't care that a millisecond ago you built an oil refinery for the first time.
14:46 asciilifeform well yes.
14:46 asciilifeform it's baked into the meat.
14:47 mircea_popescu right. and the universe we're discussing for "change you can believe in" counts by the half million years to be generous.
14:47 asciilifeform hence the temptation to hotpatch the meat.
14:47 mircea_popescu much like the temptation to selinux.
14:47 mircea_popescu works about as well, too.
14:48 asciilifeform it's selinux when you're a cow and farmer does it ~to~ you; otherwise it's misadventure (if fails) and technology (when succeeds)
14:49 mircea_popescu i guess.
14:49 asciilifeform aka daedalus vs wrightbrothers
14:49 mircea_popescu i want to believe.
14:50 asciilifeform one man's imposition is another's wet dream :
14:51 asciilifeform not long ago asciilifeform hit upon a www for nonj00z who want to join israeli army !
14:51 asciilifeform ( spoiler : it ain't easy 0
14:51 asciilifeform )
14:51 mircea_popescu lol
14:53 phf met some of those down south
14:53 asciilifeform waiwat
14:53 asciilifeform south of waht
14:53 phf mason dixon line
14:53 asciilifeform srsly ? who and why, now i'm curious
14:57 phf well, i've met a handful a American Boy types who were interested in fighting on behalf of israel and defending the christian faith (???) against muslims over the past years, but it's gotten to the point where this doesn't seem to be fringe position
14:58 asciilifeform or possibly, alternate hypothesis : healthy boy wants to be in an army
14:58 asciilifeform but american army is not so hot
14:59 mircea_popescu serems by far the likelier
15:03 phf also in the last two years, as putin became a kind of presidential role model for the midwest, i think it also became a lot more acceptable to come out in support of countries that are not america, so america and its people are seen as having lost the way, etc. it went from "red scare" to "i wish putin was our president" (a phrase i've heard more than once even before the previous election cycle)
15:04 trinque "israel can do no wrong" is a serious item of conversation around idiot evangelical dinner tables.
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15:05 phf this is a highly amusing reversal from a decade ago, when left was pro-russia and right anti-
15:05 mircea_popescu aha lol
15:06 trinque well bush "got a sense of the man's soul" and now he's okay.
15:08 asciilifeform now if only bengurion et al hadn't rm -rf / 'd the actual israel and overwritten
15:08 phf actually in 2005 or so, i was reading a lot of hunter thompson and first got into the whole americana thing. i spent some time at kind of dirty biker honky tonk places. my guides, on more than one occasion, warned me not to speak at all (at first, and while i'm sober anyway), so as not to alert the locals to the fact that i'm russian. i'm pretty sure that at this point at the same bars i would automatically gain an honored guest status for being russia
15:08 phf n.
15:09 * asciilifeform intrigued
15:11 trinque http://archive.is/UMRP1 << as for israel, hasn't to do with anything material.
15:13 trinque "end times" cult is a giant chunk of north american christianity
15:14 mircea_popescu xtianity generally.
15:19 asciilifeform atheistianity also. many, many folx wet dream of thermonukefest etc
15:20 asciilifeform unremarkable reaction to the intolerable shitpit they live in.
15:20 phf asciilifeform: you don't have to travel far, there's plenty of exotic locations nearby, particularly as you get close to appalachian ridge
15:23 asciilifeform phf: re hunter h. thompson << i really ~wanted~ to like him. but bounced off every time tried to read any.
15:23 asciilifeform d00d is simply not digestible by my enzymes, or sumthing
15:26 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-15#1670853 << curious, how many of those folx have been there even as tourist
15:26 a111 Logged on 2017-06-15 19:04 trinque: "israel can do no wrong" is a serious item of conversation around idiot evangelical dinner tables.
15:27 trinque ah less than 1 ppm
15:27 * asciilifeform has not been . and for some reason inescapably pictures it as landscape from planet arrakis from herbert's 'dune'
15:27 trinque doesn't matter!
15:27 asciilifeform complete with fremen
15:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this is true.
15:27 asciilifeform the hilarious bit is that asciilifeform & co's original exit visas from su read 'israel'
15:29 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: which this ?
15:29 mircea_popescu that "e3nd of times" is a major portion of religiodiocy since forever.
15:30 asciilifeform aah yes
15:32 trinque nothing gets the mothers fretting quite like "the bad thing will happen to all of it"
15:33 mircea_popescu "you'll be sorry!"
15:33 mircea_popescu wtf is the loser supposed to say.
15:33 asciilifeform quite opposite -- apocalypses are ~appealing~
15:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform im pretty sure originally it was just that, "You'll be sorry" "oh yeah ? whyt ?" "THE BAD THING!!1"
15:34 mircea_popescu everything becomes appealing eventually, through human perversity.
15:34 mircea_popescu "o ya ? i there's nothing i can do about it then tell you what, ILL LIKE IT! SO THERE!"
15:34 asciilifeform war, especially , is appealing, modern boys hunger for it the way iron-deficient gurlz hunger for red meat
15:35 trinque that's not an apocalypse.
15:35 asciilifeform trinque: do you recall mircea_popescu's article re 'hungry man feels as if he could eat elephant, thirsty -- drink a river; unfucked -- fuck a batallion of chix' etc ?
15:37 trinque no, but the term as used here means "the ultimate foil"
15:37 asciilifeform trinque: expand?
15:37 trinque no matter what you do, thwarted. even your war
15:37 trinque better sit on hands and behave!
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15:37 mircea_popescu "rocks fall, everyone dies"
15:37 asciilifeform that'd be the 'female' pov re apocalypse. the 'male' : 'success, because THEY, enemy, will die'
15:38 trinque not taking my meaning. it means hanging out there in front of you in the future, is everything you may ever conceive of doing, already thwarted
15:38 trinque and it's your fault, fucker
15:38 asciilifeform how's it 'thwarted' if 'they-die' is exactly the thing you wanted ?
15:39 * mircea_popescu gets popcorn.
15:39 * asciilifeform actually has this ~exact conversation with $pet regularly :
15:39 trinque we were discussing what some particular end times cult's symbol "means"
15:40 trinque I am not prepared to redefine "
15:40 asciilifeform trinque: varies, neh
15:40 trinque apocalypse" according to asciilifeform's metaphysics
15:42 trinque maybe the god of web development rises and declares that none shall die until theorems can be written and proved by mashing tab
15:42 trinque "my whole system of meaning and context of agency is extinguished"
15:42 asciilifeform but soon after this, cthulhu wakes from his dream
15:42 trinque blorp
15:42 asciilifeform and gameover!11
15:43 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the idea is that the "end of worlds" moment as found from odin to osiris is NOT a practical item, but symbolic. "everything you have burns down and nothing makes sense anymore"
15:43 asciilifeform probably my favourite apocalypse is ye olde nordic one, incidentally
15:43 mircea_popescu actually, that piece i wrote is probably fine example
15:43 asciilifeform where 'world will get rm -rf / and fuck all anyone could or should try an' do about it, smile that we carved a bit of sunlight out of the ice for a little while.'
15:44 mircea_popescu that's the idea throughout.
15:44 mircea_popescu it's a very... ango-ustardian notion that "judgement" shall mean someone actually passes.
15:44 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/stop-all-the-clocks-again/ < apocalypse.
15:45 asciilifeform i'll admit i never liked the original of ^
15:45 mircea_popescu too gay.
15:45 asciilifeform strong flavour of 'emo'
15:45 asciilifeform aha!!
15:52 asciilifeform trinque: my philosophical difficulty was with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-15#1670893 -- the emotional load of apocalypses is not automagically baked into the concept
15:52 a111 Logged on 2017-06-15 19:37 trinque: better sit on hands and behave!
15:53 asciilifeform reaction to 'yggdrasil is rotting, serpent is gnawing, axe-time, sword-time draws near' is not automatically one thing for every reader.
15:53 trinque yes yes, I long for death.
15:53 trinque the things are universal, likely a cause and not "each snowflake had a different notion about apocalypse"
15:54 asciilifeform i suspect there's a handful of basic variations.
15:55 asciilifeform clustering around 'male' and 'female' pov as described earlier.
15:56 jurov http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-15#1670769 if i translated buckwheat right, it's available in slovakia but not widely used, i don't remember last time i ate it
15:56 a111 Logged on 2017-06-15 16:23 asciilifeform: iirc jurov is a slovak . hey jurov , do you folx eat buckwheat ?
15:56 asciilifeform 'joke's on you, schmucks who sank cycles into offspring and their idiot mothers' is one variation, for example.
15:56 asciilifeform jurov: so like usa.
15:56 asciilifeform jurov: it's sold at corner shop but to this day i have nfi what it is used for here !
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16:14 mircea_popescu pet rodent feed ?
16:16 asciilifeform hell knows
16:17 asciilifeform there could be something to that -- i once had mice get into the container.
16:17 asciilifeform prolly it's 100 octane mouse fuel.
16:20 mircea_popescu just about. they love the stuff.
16:20 asciilifeform in other lulz, 'At least 10 injured after suburban plows into pedestrians in NYC'
16:21 mircea_popescu !!up fffeee
16:21 deedbot fffeee voiced for 30 minutes.
16:27 asciilifeform meanwhile in the world of entomology, https://archive.is/n3Zs1
16:29 asciilifeform 'EF changed the properties of the security it sold and still falsely advertises "unstoppable .. exactly as written" code (despite proving it false) while profiting from all of it.'
16:29 asciilifeform ^ somehow hasn't stopped any of the excitable monkeys
16:29 mircea_popescu heh
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17:37 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> d00d is simply not digestible by my enzymes, or sumthing << It's the drugz
17:37 BingoBoingo Same reason gabriel chaffes, just chaffing different spot on skin
17:38 BingoBoingo Well, brainskin
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18:13 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> it's a very... ango-ustardian notion that "judgement" shall mean someone actually passes. << BUT THEY MADE IT TO THE END!!!
18:26 mircea_popescu heh
18:30 BingoBoingo Anyways, old people use buckwheat in USia as a magic totem of "pls let me shit just one more time"
18:43 mircea_popescu meanwhile, it's supposed to rain here 4cm today and 4 more cm tonight.
18:43 mircea_popescu with any luck i'll be realising alf's dream of a floating house.
18:46 BingoBoingo That's not really so much rain
18:47 BingoBoingo It's those 15 cm afternoons you have to worry about.
18:59 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/06/fake-news-tries-to-bury-their-culpability-for-inciting-violence-by-alleging-fake-criminal-investigation/ << Qntra - Fake News Tries To Bury Their Culpability For Inciting Violence By Alleging Fake Criminal Investigation
19:00 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo could use a comma pre they
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21:11 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2017/06/15/the-lord-hath-no-fury-like-a-keyboard-monkey-scorned-a-beschaulich-vpatch-saga/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The lord hath no fury like a keyboard monkey scorned, a Beschaulich vpatch saga.
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21:41 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: ty fxd
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21:59 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/88FBE06D1ED656D192AB60C61CA54398135B979767D082579B4BE54C6C42C76B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1759...6257 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '210.90.78.142 (ssh-rsa key from 210.90.78.142 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown KR)
21:59 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/88FBE06D1ED656D192AB60C61CA54398135B979767D082579B4BE54C6C42C76B << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1402...2229 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '210.90.78.142 (ssh-rsa key from 210.90.78.142 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown KR)
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23:11 mod6 evenin'
23:11 asciilifeform heya mod6
23:11 mod6 how goes alf?
23:12 asciilifeform the usual slow grind.
23:12 asciilifeform and you, mod6 ?
23:13 mod6 similar. :]
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23:56 BingoBoingo ?Los judios son gringos?
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