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00:38 pete_dushenski mod6: openbsd commands worked! thx muchly. though i'm still getting crazy low bitrates with fg. consistently under 1000b/sec and some runs as low as 100b/sec.
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00:44 pete_dushenski and in other unexpected starts, mebbe humans aren't from africa after all ? http://archive.is/RzRji
00:44 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663035 << baud rate setting !!!!!
00:44 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 04:38 pete_dushenski: mod6: openbsd commands worked! thx muchly. though i'm still getting crazy low bitrates with fg. consistently under 1000b/sec and some runs as low as 100b/sec.
00:45 asciilifeform betcha the output has ~0 entropy also.
00:45 pete_dushenski "The researchers investigated two fossils of Graecopithecus freybergi with state-of-the-art methods and came to the conclusion that they belong to pre-humans. Their findings, published today in two papers in the journalPLOS ONE, further indicate that the split of the human lineage occurred in the Eastern Mediterranean and not - as customarily assumed - in Africa."
00:45 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: i set it!!?
00:45 asciilifeform on what ?
00:46 asciilifeform and check your wiring
00:46 asciilifeform ftr no FG ships without a 3day burn-in
00:46 pete_dushenski on macppc openbsd 6,1 using stty. and maybe i will check my wiring!
00:47 asciilifeform and what pete_dushenski describes , would not pass.
00:47 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: compare with the photo
00:49 pete_dushenski k wiring is fine. dunno how one would even fuck that up but anyways. more likely baud rate.
00:51 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: post a sample of what came out of your hexdump -C
00:51 pete_dushenski k just a min
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01:11 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: http://contravex.com/fg_test_alf.bin
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01:12 asciilifeform text plz
01:12 asciilifeform wotpaste hexdump -C of above
01:20 * asciilifeform bbl.
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01:37 trinque http://sanangelolive.com/news/live-thought/2017-05-27/group-disregards-history-tirade-against-sam-houston << Channel 2 (NBC) in Houston reports there will be a counter-protest over the statue by open carry groups. Channel 2 quotes the vice president of Texas Open Carry David Amad, "Our event is to make sure they understand that one way or another that statue is not going anywhere."
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01:42 ben_vulpes in other, floppier noodles: http://www.opb.org/news/article/portland-free-speech-march-sharia-wheeler-permit/
01:42 trinque that statue in huntsville is near the state prison; convenient for "antifa" round-up
01:43 ben_vulpes it's all so delightfully DRAMATIC
01:45 trinque seems even the portland nazis are long-haired derpy stoners.
01:47 ben_vulpes i'm waiting for the max video to come out showing a complete failure of the two "victims" to "deescalate"
01:48 ben_vulpes "oh you mean to tell me that you let a nutter on the train troll you into fisticuffs and then cut your neck open? hey it coulda been worse, he coulda stabbed you with a hiv needle and let you die slowly."
01:49 trinque "omg you can't do this to *me*" on all sides of the day's nonsense.
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01:49 ben_vulpes what's the lafondism? never pick fights, and only engage on fronts you can win decisively on the grounds of overwhelming force and surprise?
01:50 trinque https://www.vox.com/world/2017/5/29/15619574/marine-corps-women-sexual-harassment << here have more.
01:50 ben_vulpes i never did muster the energy to track down that photoset
01:51 ben_vulpes toxic masculinity lol
01:51 ben_vulpes i'd like to hear what constitutes nontoxic masculinity
01:51 trinque > macho club
01:52 trinque ben_vulpes: http://trilema.com/2016/welcome-to-baluba-island/#selection-809.0-809.66
01:53 trinque non-toxic but sadly not cage-free.
01:53 trinque how they internalize such contradictions I'll never know.
01:53 ben_vulpes cuckin is a habit
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02:10 pete_dushenski !!up CluelessNoob
02:10 deedbot CluelessNoob voiced for 30 minutes.
02:10 CluelessNoob WARNING: asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch.ben_vulpes.sig is an INVALID seal for asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch!
02:11 CluelessNoob no comprende vpatch err.
02:11 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: hitting the hay. will endeavour to get you hexdump output soon.
02:13 pete_dushenski CluelessNoob: where did you get the keys from ?
02:14 ben_vulpes CluelessNoob: please to paste results of using gpg to verify patch in question against signature in question
02:14 ben_vulpes at p.bvulpes.com
02:15 pete_dushenski also, check that there are no weird characters imported into your files, which can happen depending on whether you used cat or curl or whatever CluelessNoob
02:15 ben_vulpes also curious to know if you are following instructions from thebitcoin.foundation or what
02:19 trinque chortle.
02:21 ben_vulpes clearly asked too many questions, overloaded the clooqueue
02:22 ben_vulpes queueless noob more like it
02:23 trinque that's your toxic masculinity assuming she wanted to comprende.
02:24 ben_vulpes strictly speaking masculinity is pretty toxic, can trigger an immune reaction
02:24 ben_vulpes fevers, chills
02:25 ben_vulpes both before and after injection of the lovin' spoonful
02:28 trinque sperm allergy is factually a thing.
02:30 * ben_vulpes elbows trinque in the ribs
02:39 trinque !!up CluelessNoob
02:39 deedbot CluelessNoob voiced for 30 minutes.
02:40 trinque CluelessNoob: hablas ingles o no?
02:40 CluelessNoob si, tan un poco
02:42 trinque posibilemente necesitas files en /home/user/.seals
02:44 ben_vulpes CluelessNoob: usando los instrucciones en http://thebitcoin.foundation ?
02:45 CluelessNoob si, y http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/the_real_bitcoin
02:45 trinque como lo encontraste?
02:45 trinque y que estas en ~/.seals en tu computadora
02:46 trinque y ~/.wot
02:46 CluelessNoob utilizado trilema.com
02:46 CluelessNoob asciilifeform.asc asciilifeform.asc.foo ben_vulpes.asc mircea_popescu.asc mod6.asc trinque.asc
02:47 trinque por favor paste en p.bvulples.com y link aqui.
02:50 CluelessNoob https://thepasteb.in/p/8qhO4z6KQq4F0
02:50 CluelessNoob ¿Es esto lo que quieres decir?
02:51 ben_vulpes si es un llave lol
02:51 ben_vulpes por favor, output de: gpg --verify .seals/asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch.ben_vulpes.sig patches/asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch
02:51 trinque pretty sure he's using old instructions if he's using wiki.b-a
02:52 ben_vulpes CluelessNoob: solamente usandolo http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
02:52 CluelessNoob gpg: Signature made Sat 10 Sep 2016 03:03:18 PM MST using RSA key ID 2EF25247
02:52 CluelessNoob gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
02:52 ben_vulpes i think that conjugation is right...
02:53 ben_vulpes ah, lo siento CluelessNoob instruccion malo lo siento
02:53 CluelessNoob Las instrucciones funcionan hasta que no.
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02:54 ben_vulpes estos functionan: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
02:54 ben_vulpes y solos.
02:54 CluelessNoob soy un idiota
02:55 ben_vulpes esta bien, trabajas mucho y no es que malo
02:55 CluelessNoob https://thepasteb.in/p/vghOV27YRGQS3
02:56 ben_vulpes !!key mod6
02:56 deedbot http://wot.deedbot.org/027A8D7C0FB8A16643720F40721705A8B71EADAF.asc
02:56 trinque !!help
02:56 deedbot http://deedbot.org/help.html
02:57 ben_vulpes escribes a disk y importalo con 'gpg --import'
02:57 CluelessNoob He leído varios años de valor de los registros. Aún no entiendo.
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02:58 ben_vulpes luego, hablas con shinohai por favor
03:02 ben_vulpes in other memorial daze, this gentoo box comes up but i cannot get x to recognize the screen
03:03 trinque VIDEO_CARDS="whatever" ?
03:03 trinque in make.conf
03:03 ben_vulpes "nvidia", yeah
03:03 trinque dmesg reports nvidia kernel turds all loaded?
03:03 ben_vulpes hm
03:04 trinque if not, maybe not right modules built, maybe not right firmware present
03:04 ben_vulpes guess not
03:04 CluelessNoob ¡Muchas gracias por la ayuda! Me voy a la cama ahora.
03:04 trinque latter expands to "in /lib/firmware" or "in initurd"
03:04 ben_vulpes gracias CluelessNoob
03:04 ben_vulpes ("it works if you work it so keep working it" oblig.)
03:06 ben_vulpes trinque: this card may be old enough that i need a funky version of nvidia-drivers
03:12 ben_vulpes probably nouveau getting a grip on the device first according to dmesg
03:12 * ben_vulpes off
03:15 BingoBoingo !~ticker --market all
03:15 BingoBoingo ;;bcstats
03:15 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2312.9, vol: 13049.67986218 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2243.93, vol: 7868.15611 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2233.9, vol: 16967.95259176 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2245.401, vol: 9928.89270000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2251.174, vol: 4925.24556151 | Volume-weighted last average: 2258.72205192
03:15 BingoBoingo !~bcstats
03:15 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 468829 | Current Difficulty: 5.95921917085E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 469727 | Next Difficulty In: 898 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 14 hours, 36 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
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04:18 jurov http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-29#1662980 << a glaring plothole in "the martian" and his potatoes, too
04:18 a111 Logged on 2017-05-29 23:15 asciilifeform: well, d00dz who don't bother to figure out, how many joules of light even hit the 'garden', even supposing more than a few % ended up in food...
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08:12 shinohai !~later tell CluelessNoob http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663126 <<< Tiene razon ben_vulpes, con gusto te ayudare entender el valor de eso y mas.
08:12 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 06:57 CluelessNoob: He leído varios años de valor de los registros. Aún no entiendo.
08:12 jhvh1 shinohai: The operation succeeded.
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10:14 mod6 mornin'
10:27 shinohai Morning mod6, mircea_popescu
10:28 mircea_popescu hey hey
10:37 mod6 asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, et. al. I noticed the slowness of reading from the USB-TTL too. i had mine set to read at 115200 baud or whatever, but still was only pretty slow. i don't have any metrics off hand.
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10:38 mod6 can get some later. maybe need to change the baud setting, or even something different.
10:38 mod6 trinque & ben_vulpes : thanks for helping CluelessNoob.
10:40 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663156 << what kB/s specifically ?
10:40 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 14:37 mod6: asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, et. al. I noticed the slowness of reading from the USB-TTL too. i had mine set to read at 115200 baud or whatever, but still was only pretty slow. i don't have any metrics off hand.
10:40 asciilifeform iirc mod6 you posted a few dd outputs, it was always 7-8 as per spec.
10:42 asciilifeform ftr , for people who refuse to read the source : FUCKGOATS emits at 115200 baud STRICTLY!!!
10:42 mod6 ah, well from my *linux* machine i was around ~7kb/s
10:42 asciilifeform if you have your serial port set to anything else, you are getting crud !! and not entropic crud, either
10:42 mod6 or something
10:43 asciilifeform mod6: ~7 is the rated output at room temperature
10:43 mod6 ALSO, forgot to mention, that openbsd `dd` doesn't have a 'fullblock' iflag or whatever, so that needs to be looked at a bit too
10:43 asciilifeform mod6: i investigated , under most unixen it is safe to use 'cat'
10:43 mod6 asciilifeform: yup. just, openbsd with the config I was talking about yesterday didn't hit that. im sure it's just something on the openbsd side, ie. my configuration.
10:43 mod6 or how I'm trying to read from the serial
10:44 asciilifeform try with 'cat'.
10:44 mod6 ok, if `cat` won't pad, or do any weird buffer hijinks, then i'll give it a shot.
10:44 asciilifeform cat on some exotic unixen drops control chars
10:45 mod6 i was actually reading through `dd` (openbsd) impl yesterday.. -.-
10:45 asciilifeform but ought to work in general today
10:45 mod6 ok will try later for sure.
10:45 asciilifeform however if your system fails to set 115200 baud ( and on every box i have here, it is the default baud rate, HOWEVER you MUST turn off flow control )
10:46 asciilifeform and hah, i think we nailed the problem pete_dushenski had
10:46 asciilifeform and possibly mod6 , on bsd
10:46 asciilifeform if you don't disable flow control ( in-band idiocy ) the os nukes the terminal whenever it encounters magic char
10:47 asciilifeform ( iirc 0x03 )
10:47 asciilifeform and hence it 'burps'
10:47 asciilifeform and the output is unusable because now skewed
10:47 asciilifeform ( because certain octets no longer appear )
10:48 asciilifeform i encountered this nonsense when i built my very first prototype rng, iirc mircea_popescu even turned the resulting dialogue into a whole post on his www
10:51 asciilifeform you gotta kill flowcontrol, folx
10:51 asciilifeform as described on snsa www.
10:52 mod6 thanks asciilifeform
10:57 deedbot http://trilema.com/2017/hela-matter/ << Trilema - HeLa Matter!
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11:19 mod6 with OpenBSD, looks like I'll need to try (via http://man.openbsd.org/stty.1) '-crtscts'
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11:19 mod6 to turn off flow control
11:19 mod6 or am I reading that wrong?
11:19 * asciilifeform does not know, because his only openbsd box has a couplea cm of dust on it, and also lacks usb ports
11:20 mod6 ok, np. i'll dig into it later. we'll get to the bottom of it. just some weird config deal.
11:20 asciilifeform though it ~does~ have a serial port , on the docking cradle (it's a 'toshiba libretto'), and perhaps i could dust it off
11:20 asciilifeform ... or i could let the bsd aficionados take on this chore.
11:21 mod6 don't bother for now, just stick with whatever else you were doin'. I don't wanna get you off on a side-quest for this.
11:21 mod6 this issue seems completely unrelated to FG.
11:22 asciilifeform FG transmits at 115200,1,noparity, and this is readily verifiable by anyone with an oscilloscope and eyes, or with linux box, or dos box. i will not be taking responsibility for every broken os on the planet.
11:22 mircea_popescu lol ok ok/
11:22 asciilifeform but if mod6 comes up with a recipe, i would like to include it in the manual.
11:22 asciilifeform there may be other bsd folx , gritting teeth
11:23 asciilifeform ty mod6 for putting in the sweat.
11:27 mod6 no prob!
11:32 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663055 << that was amusing enough.
11:32 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 05:37 trinque: http://sanangelolive.com/news/live-thought/2017-05-27/group-disregards-history-tirade-against-sam-houston << Channel 2 (NBC) in Houston reports there will be a counter-protest over the statue by open carry groups. Channel 2 quotes the vice president of Texas Open Carry David Amad, "Our event is to make sure they understand that one way or another that statue is not going anywhere."
11:39 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663062 << ehehehe
11:39 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 05:49 trinque: "omg you can't do this to *me*" on all sides of the day's nonsense.
11:39 mircea_popescu dude the us is practically a solid block of comedy gold these days.
11:39 mircea_popescu i can't wait for Respectable Person 2020.
11:41 mircea_popescu also can't wait for the brand new http://trilema.com/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/antifa.gif marine corps.
11:47 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663115 << lol win.
11:47 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 06:53 CluelessNoob: Las instrucciones funcionan hasta que no.
11:48 mircea_popescu anyway, odds are he's got alf's old key.
11:58 mod6 ya, was thinking that myself. could have been something else weird, but he seemed to update to V99994 and then been able to get past the issue.
12:01 asciilifeform either that or the lynx thing
12:01 asciilifeform ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-20#1659723 )
12:01 a111 Logged on 2017-05-20 15:25 danielpbarron: and for those curious, here's what lynx adds >> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/odgWG/?raw=true
12:03 mod6 ah, right.
12:05 asciilifeform in other lulz, http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2016-17/criminalfinances.html >> brits prepare to 're-investigate where the money came from' for all posh properties in london etc and confiscate if 'unclean'
12:06 asciilifeform esp that of idiot 'oligarchs' from ru who thought that they could happily live to old age in the enemy's camp
12:07 asciilifeform no word so far on what the brits will do when they discover that the 'sticker prices' for the golden toilets are a work of '2 old jews and their painting' fiction , and ~worthless on market
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12:07 mircea_popescu heh
12:08 mircea_popescu i have nfi who in his right mind would buy to live in london.
12:08 asciilifeform dunno that they bought-to-live
12:08 mircea_popescu i can't think of a worse clime.
12:08 asciilifeform but to play the bubble
12:08 mircea_popescu well... in that case they long ago sold.
12:09 * asciilifeform has nfi
12:09 asciilifeform last iirc abramovich was still there.
12:09 mircea_popescu oh, i'm sure HE's perfectly clean.
12:09 mircea_popescu you don't understand how the world works.
12:10 asciilifeform rumour has it, usg made 'offer' to various ru exiles; those who refused to put coin in the piggy, now 'have problems'.
12:10 mircea_popescu there's rather pregnant demand for a country with a constitution specifically forbidding "provenance" verifications. put a pecunia non olet clause, win ~all the remaining capital.
12:11 mircea_popescu curious if anyone actually raises up to the challenges of their time.
12:11 asciilifeform theoretically, the swiss were this at one time
12:11 mircea_popescu and they didn't do too badly with it.
12:11 asciilifeform but i suspect there are 'physical limits' involved
12:12 asciilifeform gigantic pile of money tears spacetime and creates modern-swiss.
12:12 mircea_popescu i don't. i'm satisfied there's just idiocy of the "consensus seeking" nature involved, no more.
12:12 asciilifeform expand?
12:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the problem with that view being that in bitcoin terms, swiss piles of money were lowest after ww2.
12:12 mircea_popescu highest, prolly cca 1770 or such.
12:13 asciilifeform being a piece of europe not wrecked at all by the war, was mega-boost
12:13 asciilifeform just like it was for the swedes
12:13 asciilifeform or usa.
12:13 mircea_popescu didn't make that much dsifference, they were small.
12:13 mircea_popescu a chocolate watch factory +- dun count for much.
12:14 asciilifeform pirate coves also small
12:14 asciilifeform but work differently, no need for own industry when you're pirate cove.
12:15 mircea_popescu anyway, point being : the relative proportion of wealth stored there actually diminished throughout 19th and 20th centuries.
12:16 asciilifeform as for 'pecunia non olet' countries, how about panama.
12:16 asciilifeform how's panama doing these days.
12:16 mircea_popescu so if it was the pile of wealth that "bent space and time", you'd have had swiss cucks cca 1810, rather than have them provide vatican guards as the respectable manly troop the us marine core tried to copy.
12:16 mircea_popescu eh, panama's not a country.
12:16 asciilifeform ( maybe just having gold parked , does not do much ? )
12:17 mircea_popescu next coinbase is going to be a bitcoin bank, what are we doing here ?
12:17 asciilifeform lol
12:18 asciilifeform if contemplating 'who is actual country' based solely on where the yet-untungstenated physical au lives, possibly only cn is now 'country'.
12:18 mircea_popescu it actually has a pretty close approximation of the "unreviewable source" principle, too.
12:18 asciilifeform (and everybody else is simply screwing around in microshit 'excel'.)
12:19 asciilifeform afaik in cn source is verymuch 'reviewable' once d00d falls into Official disgrace with pekin.
12:19 mircea_popescu you don't have to take teh govt's money if you dun want to.
12:19 mircea_popescu if you do, it'd also be wise to pay up, none of this is particularly controversial.
12:20 asciilifeform dunno that all of the publicized 'corruption' trials have this trivial explanation, 'didn't pass the bakshish up the chain'
12:20 asciilifeform but i've nfi.
12:21 mircea_popescu without exception they're fraud in public funds, afaik.
12:22 asciilifeform how many mega-magnates with 0 business with the crown, tho
12:23 asciilifeform (if not in their l1 than l2..)
12:23 asciilifeform *then
12:23 asciilifeform even a soap seller could be portrayed as 'defrauding the crown with inferior soap' etc
12:25 mircea_popescu all those theoretical concerns aside, chinese banks routinely handle arbitrary size deposits and their agents are amused at this white man "mony raunderin" thing
12:27 asciilifeform q is whether they'll reinvent it when the time comes. like the swiss did, and brits etc
12:27 asciilifeform when the external power source dries up
12:27 mircea_popescu with this outlook it's a wonder you date.
12:27 mircea_popescu why bother, they die anyway, no ?
12:28 asciilifeform lol
12:28 asciilifeform in point of fact there's plenty of 'normal' things asciilifeform does not do, because he does not expect to live long enough to make use of'em
12:28 asciilifeform ( but we digress )
12:30 mircea_popescu anyway, the "time comes" factor is traditionally thouht to deal with "population density", yet the inept west never dealt with pop density even vaguely close to what the chinese are handling ok.
12:31 mircea_popescu perhaps a better measure is "hallucinated self-determination", ie uppity twerps pretending like they get to "make choices", something the chinese are very carefully keeping in check. this may continue indefinitely, in which case it might never even come, that time.
12:31 asciilifeform density per se isn't interesting, but rather density vs carrying capacity. and iirc europe was pretty 'full', by this metric, in the 18th c
12:31 asciilifeform and again in leadup to ww1
12:31 mircea_popescu and china, in 18th c bc.
12:31 asciilifeform fixed by exporting excess biomass the 1st time, by shredding with artillery 2nd
12:32 mircea_popescu the problem is not really "carrying capacity" in any objective sense, but carrying capacity of pretense, as discussed in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1660840
12:32 a111 Logged on 2017-05-24 16:37 mircea_popescu: gotta be teh dreamers, that's the only way the batshit insane expectations of 8 bn heros in their own stories can be "satisfied" after a fashion.
12:33 asciilifeform cn folx are, overall, bright enough, i suspect that at some point they will wake up to the fact that they do not in fact need the euro/usa schmucks for anything
12:33 asciilifeform not even in 'cock cage'
12:34 asciilifeform 'dreaming' is powered by very real energy source. q is re why does the socket still supply current.
12:35 mircea_popescu i imagine ~same reason socket still supplies current for the ~ton or so of hela in existance.
12:36 * asciilifeform quite appreciated that ps0t, btw -- at one point , like many many people, handled HeLa with own hands
12:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform by now it's apparently in over half all other cultures.
12:37 asciilifeform 'unpicky eater'
12:37 mircea_popescu very hardy and hey, hygiene still mystery among the medical lab.
12:37 mircea_popescu that's going to be a major butthurt, in the coming years, lots of stuff will have to be thrown out, and people dun really wanna.
12:38 asciilifeform not so hard to separate by species, but that's about it
12:38 mircea_popescu but shit can't continue, they even made a special lab to certify cultures etc.
12:38 mircea_popescu anyway, re needing : white females have been historically the better selling slaves, in all cultures. i dun expect this will change.
12:38 asciilifeform i think the mcamericans fixed this
12:39 asciilifeform but who knows, maybe other end will learn to like 'heavyweights'
12:41 mircea_popescu nah, for one thing it sheds and for the other, so breed them in captivity what.
12:42 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RackRqPriHQ << for anyone looking for sensitivitymaterial, VERY DEEP FILM!!1
12:42 asciilifeform i'm curious re the 'it sheds'
12:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu had some article where he describes the process. but what's the worst 'patient' he cured ?
12:44 asciilifeform what does a 100kg chick look like after ? does skin hang like sad, empty dirigible ballonet ?
12:44 asciilifeform paging BingoBoingo !
12:44 asciilifeform perhaps he knows.
12:45 mircea_popescu ah, no. even at mp heights, 100kg female will need extensive surgery to rehumanize.
12:45 mircea_popescu not that it's not possible, these days, but how often will it be worth the hassle.
12:45 asciilifeform ( on other hand there is some variation in tastes : e.g. it seems to asciilifeform that he likes gurlz with fully 2x the live mass of the ones in mircea_popescu's photos, for instance )
12:46 mircea_popescu which photos ? i'm actually quite variant, there's all sorts.
12:46 asciilifeform most of the memorable ones.
12:46 asciilifeform but i have nfi what mircea_popescu keeps as 'inpatient' pets.
12:47 asciilifeform it is possible that my entire picture is off.
12:48 mircea_popescu be that as it may, human female will be fifty something to seventy something or thereabouts. if you like big tits and big asses you'll be at the 70s side of it. 100kgs is really excessive even for adult males.
12:52 mircea_popescu the problem with usian chicks isn't necessarily "being the weight of three girls" (mostly cuz i don't expect you'd talk to those), but this unhealthy / inflated aspect due to forced adipose growth for toxin burial. ~that~ sheds, once toxin intake is discontinued, of course.
12:54 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/128E80AC450BC733931AD9633AABA3B88250990B5CFE16DEBC11B4EE2DC67641 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1443...5617 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.110.144.28 (ssh-rsa key from 89.110.144.28 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (v14.ncsrv.de. DE)
12:54 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/128E80AC450BC733931AD9633AABA3B88250990B5CFE16DEBC11B4EE2DC67641 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1775...4807 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '89.110.144.28 (ssh-rsa key from 89.110.144.28 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (v14.ncsrv.de. DE)
12:55 asciilifeform the heuristic 'if i can lift $creature, it is not too massive' heuristic worx
13:01 asciilifeform however asciilifeform's tastes are approx. mircea_popescu's-with-a-minus-sign, and aspects of this are detectable with naked eye even.
13:06 asciilifeform !~later tell pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663051 >>>> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/0ZnRP/?raw=true << your setup is CATASTROPHICALLY broken, looks like misconfigured bandwidth and/or flow control
13:06 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 05:11 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: http://contravex.com/fg_test_alf.bin
13:06 jhvh1 asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
13:07 asciilifeform the preponderance of 0xff 0xfd etc is screaming hint
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13:07 asciilifeform rs232 idle signal level is 'high'
13:07 asciilifeform misbauding will typically looks like this to naked eye.
13:09 asciilifeform this is also a good time to remind fols, THIS ^^ is the kind of thing 'rng testing' shines in, picking up misconfiguration/catastrophic os retardation/similar
13:09 asciilifeform *folx
13:12 mircea_popescu i somewhat doubt you can deadlift 70kgs ?
13:13 asciilifeform chick is easier than a barbell
13:13 mircea_popescu because why, jet powered by her own queefs ?
13:14 asciilifeform i dunno re mircea_popescu's barbell , but mine doesn't have hands and help the lifter by hanging on !11
13:14 mircea_popescu well yes but so redefined you could possibly "be ab le to lift" a meteorite.
13:15 mircea_popescu "fell on his head ; hung on."
13:15 asciilifeform and ftr 70kgs afaik gives 0 trouble to a healthy d00d, whether in chick or knapsack or comp (e.g. my lispm)
13:15 asciilifeform but chick is imho by far easiest 70kg!
13:16 mircea_popescu i dunno, maybe. they certainly have lower weights at the gym, if that matters.
13:17 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> paging BingoBoingo ! << Prolly looks like biodiesel tank is fuller
13:17 asciilifeform there is a related legend that, at one time exercise weights were forbidden in new york prison. inmates then began to use ~each other~ for weights
13:17 asciilifeform massive 'circus' strong man practicing by lifting smallest d00d etc.
13:17 trinque works great; see "acro-yoga"
13:18 * trinque used to do this with hippy chicks in oregon
13:18 trinque put woman on feet, squat her, etc
13:18 asciilifeform moar fun than with dumb old iron, neh.
13:18 trinque way more.
13:19 BingoBoingo Not much, but a bit fuller
13:20 mircea_popescu ah, that's certainly a great passtime, mixed yogas
13:20 asciilifeform those who met asciilifeform at c2/c3 know that he is not mistakeable for circus lifter . but ftr can happily lift & carry 75kg pet.
13:20 asciilifeform i suspect that people -- ~are~ easier to lift than dead crate.
13:22 asciilifeform ( and iirc folx who transport corpses for a living, also record that the latter are considerably more difficult to move than the living )
13:24 mircea_popescu there is that.
13:27 BingoBoingo But who can lift HeLa?
13:31 BingoBoingo !~google "Taylor Machine works X-700L"
13:31 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: 18t-32t Capacity Forklifts - Taylor Machine Works International: <http://www.taylormachineworks.com/products/18t-32t-capacity-forklifts/>; X - 700L - Taylor Big Red: <http://www.taylorbigredforklifts.com/brochures/interactive/x700l/files/assets/common/downloads/X700L%2520Brochure.pdf>; X -Series Fliers - Taylor Big Red: <http://www.taylorbigredforklifts.com/brochures/product/x-series-com
13:32 phf people reflexively shift weight when lifted, self-stabilizing into the force vector
13:32 BingoBoingo ^ Can lift Helo, not out of dependence, but vertically
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13:34 BingoBoingo Anyways, people are the hardest load to lift.
13:34 phf (that's also why aerial work with unprepared people works, until it suddenly doesn't: people get scared, start compensating intellectually, throw the balance out)
13:37 phf weights don't self stabilize, so weightlifting is all about proper alignment of force vector (also fighting, running, etc etc)
13:38 BingoBoingo Locally we lost a young white girl recently due to failure to surrender will and life in order to allow lifting. Used dope one last time, dope relieved girl of mortality.
13:44 phf it's the kind of stiffness that makes one indistinguishable from a corpse
13:54 BingoBoingo When of the spirit, it's the sort of stiffness that makes one a corpse
14:03 asciilifeform phf has it.
14:07 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663357 << helo, unlike in the movies, is pretty hard for uninitiated folx to lift : ground effect is a bitch, gotta work the cyclic, the collective, the pedals, in sync properly
14:07 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 17:32 BingoBoingo: ^ Can lift Helo, not out of dependence, but vertically
14:07 asciilifeform davout probably has the details.
14:08 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Appologies, I intended to refer to not helicopter, but HeLa supertumor
14:08 asciilifeform lol
14:08 asciilifeform it is like to ask 'lift water'. how much.
14:08 asciilifeform it's a single-celled thing.
14:09 BingoBoingo Well, and the agar, and the trays...
14:09 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: typically you'd use liquid culturemedia, rather than agar
14:09 asciilifeform it goes into a flat plastic bottle
14:10 asciilifeform ( with bent neck : you can vacuum up old 'soup' without denting the 'business end' of the bottle with the pipette )
14:10 BingoBoingo I am not in the business of growing negro supertumors. I would probably use bleach.
14:11 asciilifeform funnily enough there are things that will not die, in bleach .
14:11 asciilifeform ( everyone who has cultured something -- knows this. exhausted culture soup goes into vacuum flask, which gotta be killed before you can empty into waste drum, and often this proves harder than expected )
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14:11 trinque I spent some time in a hospital this weekend, granddad had some cardiac plumbing done.
14:12 trinque managed to navigate the place without touching a damned thing with hands
14:25 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> funnily enough there are things that will not die, in bleach . << This is when you use a different species of bleach
14:25 asciilifeform we used iodine.
14:26 BingoBoingo What's wrong with FOOF
14:31 deedbot http://qntra.net/2017/05/usg-stoolie-noriega-dead/ << Qntra - USG Stoolie Noriega Dead
14:31 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: you forgot bzhezinsky !
14:31 asciilifeform one of the two great soroses
14:32 asciilifeform ( the other one being, noshit.jpg, soros )
14:32 asciilifeform there is much rejoicing in the free world, d00d finally bit it 2days or so ago
14:32 asciilifeform 'rejoicing that he's dead, but sad that it wasn't in a noose'
14:33 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: foof, lol. why not also nuke.
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14:49 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663378 << uv is usually the answer, though EVEN THAT is not good enough sometimes.
14:49 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 18:11 asciilifeform: ( everyone who has cultured something -- knows this. exhausted culture soup goes into vacuum flask, which gotta be killed before you can empty into waste drum, and often this proves harder than expected )
14:49 mircea_popescu then it's uv+ozone, and so on
14:49 asciilifeform doesn't go through liquid well
14:50 asciilifeform theoretically one could ionize the liquishit in a gigantic arc lamp, even. but even this, is harder than it looks
14:51 mircea_popescu wait, soros died ?!
14:51 asciilifeform nono
14:51 mircea_popescu ah
14:51 asciilifeform bzhezinsky
14:51 asciilifeform meanwhile völkischer beobachter does not disappoint , https://archive.is/ja4zY >> 'At Brown University, more than half the 49 allegations of academic code violations last year involved cheating in computer science. ... At Stanford... as many as 20 percent of the students in one 2015 computer science course were flagged for possible cheating'
14:52 mircea_popescu im sure there's no cheating going on in "social sciences".
14:52 asciilifeform they don't test for it
14:52 mircea_popescu just as good.
14:52 asciilifeform whereas still a few elderly 'enemies of the people' left in the comp faculty, who do
14:52 asciilifeform they will, i expect, be dealt with.
14:53 mircea_popescu time'll deal with them sure enough.
14:54 asciilifeform even at ye olde backwater u. of maryland, there were persistent rumours, of profs who found, with simple perltron, gigantic cribbed segments of homework, and then ordered to forget-whole-thing by the dean, because perp was a blueblood
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15:12 mircea_popescu and being americans they whispered about it, because nobody can have a blog.
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15:30 asciilifeform some folx have blogs
15:30 asciilifeform nontenured notquiteprofessors, however, rarely.
15:37 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: you forgot bzhezinsky ! << Will be a footnote later. My ire at USG is atm more actutely directed at USG.CIA's white girl killing narco bsns's
15:37 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: they killed your particular pet ?!
15:37 asciilifeform or some freerange one
15:40 BingoBoingo Killed an appreciated wild one
15:41 * asciilifeform takes off hat
15:41 asciilifeform opium ?
15:41 BingoBoingo One of those things. Go to meeting see pick up X day coin. A while later see them try again and pick up X milestone coin again. Last week discover "one last time" meant "one last time" that particular time.
15:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Apparently
15:47 BingoBoingo Police have opened investigation because opium deaths are now treated as murders by drug dealer. For some reason though I have a feeling Hussein Bahamas will not be taken into custody by Trenton, Illinois police for his role in growing Afghan opium imports.
15:48 asciilifeform hey, bushinton meant it to go to ru , not usa!111
15:55 lobbes https://archive.is/TpKBX << some lulz from mr. Musk; "not-too-distant Post-scarcity economy!11"
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15:55 lobbes Although, he does paint the accurate picture of the us population being destined to become slaves of nobody-in-particular. Just labeled as "UBI"
15:56 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Sure, but Hussein Bahamas invited it to USA to further his white genocide agenda.
15:59 asciilifeform not to rain on the parade, but must point out: moar fine folx, incl. pretty gurlz, nuked by walmatronium than opium
15:59 trinque lobbes: "This is a set of ideas that I???ve tossed around with friends for a while. Unless something huge changes, this is probably the only viable solution." << oh, ok.
15:59 asciilifeform i expect to get done in by it personally, if not by anything else first, and i dun even eat it ! ( it is however in the water , air, fraudulently mixed into $maxint premium phood etc )
16:07 BingoBoingo The thing is walmartroniuomists dun learn anything that would be useful to Republican causes should they recover. Opiumist tends to pick up wide array of skills useful to fight against various USG's if only they recover.
16:08 BingoBoingo That and Walartronium is more Clinton's fault. Current heroin glut is all on Hussein Bahamas for turning CIA into extention of his Choom Gang.
16:08 BingoBoingo !~google choom gang
16:08 jhvh1 BingoBoingo: 'The Choom Gang ': 9 juiciest details from Barack Obama's days as a ...: <http://theweek.com/articles/475179/choom-gang-9-juiciest-details-from-barack-obamas-days-pothead>; Obama and His Pot-Smoking ' Choom Gang ' - ABC News: <http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/obama-and-his-pot-smoking-choom-gang/>; A User's Guide To Smoking Pot With Barack Obama - BuzzFeed: (1 more message)
16:09 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/the-all-american-asshole-in-his-own-words-with-my-own-notes/#selection-2959.0-2975.867 << oblig
16:21 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The ability to take anything that isn't bolted down and convert into a medium of exchange is an area my survey of current republican assets finds lacking.
16:24 BingoBoingo And "recovery" includes criteria beyond simply "hasn't doped in X days"
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16:45 asciilifeform in other updatez, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-24#1661163 >>>>> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/WuqOG/?raw=true
16:45 a111 Logged on 2017-05-24 22:28 asciilifeform: aite, i'ma write..
16:46 asciilifeform mircea_popescu et al ^
16:46 asciilifeform not mega-surprise : d00d builds and tests 'golden toilet' 'quantum effectz' rngs for a career
16:47 asciilifeform so we have him, who won't test (phree!111) sample of FUCKGOATS...
16:47 * mod6 looks
16:47 asciilifeform bernstein, who would not even ANSWER message re phuctor
16:47 asciilifeform etc.
16:47 mod6 lol wtf
16:48 asciilifeform i dun even have a handy 'unified theory' of this
16:48 asciilifeform could be that academic sees letters from plebe as 'hey, a talking goat'
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16:48 mod6 unified theory of ineptitude
16:51 asciilifeform i dun even go so quickly to 'ineptitude' -- perhaps they are quite 'apt' but not at the job naively supposed by outsider.
16:51 asciilifeform to play devil's advocate -- it is rather like if they were, e.g., mircea_popescu's pets
16:51 asciilifeform they won't undress and juice for $rando .
16:52 asciilifeform only for commander.
16:53 mod6 bah
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17:16 trinque you're talking to people that are ruled by "codes of conduct" and so on.
17:16 trinque recall the guy who got burned at stake for wearing an anime shirt with hot chicks on it at cern.
17:16 trinque and you're handing them a FUCKGOATS, lol
17:18 trinque obviously this notion of christian respectability must die, but there it is.
17:24 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663421 << we had that in the soviet block. approximately http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450314
17:24 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 19:55 lobbes: https://archive.is/TpKBX << some lulz from mr. Musk; "not-too-distant Post-scarcity economy!11"
17:24 a111 Logged on 2016-04-11 19:56 mircea_popescu: "in the us the nsa has powers and bla bla bla. why are you crying, little boy" "I WANT TO GO TO THE USA!!11"
17:27 pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663190 << ah. good find. that's almost certainly the culprit on openbsd. but god help anyone try to find ~only one~ such snag on the flaming shitpit that is macosx. *spits*. stty dun even pretend to work in 'terminal' because it doesn't talk to serial devices. at all. no luck yet with coolterm, quickterm, etc. either. they just... freeze.
17:27 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 15:19 mod6: with OpenBSD, looks like I'll need to try (via http://man.openbsd.org/stty.1) '-crtscts'
17:28 mod6 werd. will try it later on my end. not with mac though. i don't use that crap.
17:29 pete_dushenski good man.
17:29 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: thx for looking into the problem from your end as well. s.nsa with the custom-o-service!
17:29 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663444 << eh, what difference does it make. as i tell derpy girlies at least weekly, "you had your chance." was there more to it than that ?
17:29 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 20:48 asciilifeform: could be that academic sees letters from plebe as 'hey, a talking goat'
17:33 trinque pete_dushenski: cu claims to be present on osx
17:36 pete_dushenski hm. i might have to try that.
17:41 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: point was, you can see with unarmed eye that it's misconfigured.
17:42 asciilifeform i would have even said 'throw out the idiot os' but on linux also it defaults to flowcontrol-on
17:42 asciilifeform because everything is a modem, or sumthing
17:42 Framedragger damn, that response re FUCKGOATS somehow made me sadder than random $afk emotional things. "you had your chance" and any onus to follow-up is now on their end (demarcation line has been set), yes, lost cause, but still, damn. such a waste of flesh.
17:44 asciilifeform Framedragger: why the sad? we dun really need that d00d for anything, afaik
17:44 asciilifeform everything he had to say on subj, was in that mega-treatise, which you can read for phree..
17:46 Framedragger of course. not much use in the first place. it's not about any mega opportunity / utility loss, just, d00d seemed ~healthy, there was no excuse (free! relevant shit!), and *yet*. i know the whole history of the forum is full of this, it's just fucking depressing what can i say.
17:46 pete_dushenski asciilifeform: myea
17:47 asciilifeform some folx would rather http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-30#1663156 than associate with 'terrorists', say
17:47 a111 Logged on 2017-05-30 14:37 mod6: asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, et. al. I noticed the slowness of reading from the USB-TTL too. i had mine set to read at 115200 baud or whatever, but still was only pretty slow. i don't have any metrics off hand.
17:47 asciilifeform grr
17:47 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-25#1661313 rather
17:47 a111 Logged on 2017-05-25 01:26 mircea_popescu: why not increase income ? it's the traditional approach.
17:48 asciilifeform perhaps he wants, e.g., tenure, rather than to be thrown to dogs.
17:49 asciilifeform ( and sure, occasional superstar mircea_popescuist pulls off 'money + hatespeechblog' in concert . but for mortals there is typically some degree of engineering tradeoff )
17:50 Framedragger asciilifeform: yeah, taleb had a piece about that "thrown to the dogs" exposure (if that's the word): https://medium.com/incerto/the-skin-of-others-in-your-game-3f51d8ccc3fb - "independent academics" are not at all independent, etc etc (this also creates the "give advice without skin in the game" issue, so on.)
17:51 Framedragger (not that this is original at all, just another articulation of same old.)
17:54 * Framedragger just wondered if one of the functions of "concents" in stephenson's anathem (which i haven't yet read) are to reduce this kind of "but i have two cats and mortgage!" compromise possibility for scientists and the like
17:55 asciilifeform Framedragger: entirely
17:56 * Framedragger makes sure 'tis in reading list
17:56 asciilifeform imho idea is approx as realistic as the space ship in same -- but entertaining yarn nevertheless.
17:56 Framedragger yeah.
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18:12 asciilifeform fwiw asciilifeform would sign up without a 2nd thought.
18:13 asciilifeform but stephenson carefully specifies!11 that concents live in alt-world where people are slightly less dumb.
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19:12 mircea_popescu !!up renzo
19:12 deedbot renzo voiced for 30 minutes.
19:12 renzo Hey, what's !!up?
19:13 mod6 nada
19:13 mircea_popescu gives you the ability to speak.
19:13 renzo Ah great
19:13 renzo Have to admit i haven't visited your blog since the time of the DAO hack... Mircea, what do you make of this ETH bubble?#
19:15 mircea_popescu you know how it goes when you get the flu and ancient cold sores also flare up ? bitcoin climbs, as a result all sorts of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-17#1657609 / bs "feel involved" and relevant and whatnot.
19:15 a111 Logged on 2017-05-17 22:37 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform did yarvin / urbit EVER do anything other than selling "space" of various description ? it's like reddit by now, wut.
19:15 mircea_popescu they aren't, of course, but what's that to do with feelings.
19:17 mircea_popescu one day around noon i bought a girl in the street in nantucket ; by nightfall the respectable housewives all the way down to whitechapel and all the way up past maine had re-evaluated their priceless litter accordingly.
19:19 renzo how much for?
19:20 mircea_popescu Framedragger asciilifeform you will notice that the perceived problem is very unlikely to be a genuine problem. to use the familiar field of sexuality -- people also don't hit up on girls, and in direct proportion to how hot they are, because they perceive possible harm may come!!1
19:21 mircea_popescu trying to protect people from things they imagine isn't likely to yield results.
19:22 renzo can't argue with that, how does one protect someone from something that exists only in their heda
19:22 renzo head*
19:22 mircea_popescu fwiw, and not so long ago, the ~same "academics" would have hid that they were born black, say, for same vague "fear of reprisals". or, for that matter, gay. what exactly changed, there's no more reprisals nao because what, let me guess, awareness has been risen ?
19:23 mircea_popescu there's no fucking reprisals. so some stuck up brits asked some german physicist living with two women to kindly go away. ok, so ? some other people gave him a different-same job.
19:24 mircea_popescu for all the blather, the famed "blacklisting" of communists did ~nothing, and so on and so forth.
19:25 mircea_popescu but the supposed "fear" merely translates a desire, which is the desire to be not-different from the rest. which... hey, everyone's entitled to be plain, boring, lame an' as ordinary as their wife can stand.
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19:53 mircea_popescu !!up gabriel_laddel_p
19:53 deedbot gabriel_laddel_p voiced for 30 minutes.
20:04 gabriel_laddel_p Is anyone aware of "magic" shared libraries that must be included with a linux distro to work? When I build a MasamuneRescueCD fdisk -l does not see any disks, nor does lsblk, in spite of my including all shared libraries required by lddtree --list
20:05 gabriel_laddel_p emacs, htop, mc, sbcl all work fine, but X11 & fdisk do not, which sort of screws me. strace works, but tracing the X process does not turn up anything useful
20:07 trinque sounds like you didn't pack along the right kernel modules, or otherwise didn't mount dev correctly
20:07 trinque afaik linux always mounts /dev automatically these days, so I'd suspect the former.
20:08 gabriel_laddel_p Oddly enough, the fdisk binary from https://www.phenix.bnl.gov/~purschke/RescueCD/ works, even though I have a different kernel than it ships with (the masamune one), and different shared libs (masamune ones).
20:08 gabriel_laddel_p I would have thought that it was compiled statically, but lddtree turns up deps
20:09 trinque pasting an error would be a start; missing libs would be a pretty recognizable barf.
20:09 gabriel_laddel_p trinque: there is no error to paste. Nothing is missing, nothing shows up as missing when I strace it.
20:09 gabriel_laddel_p trinque: it just doesn't detect anything
20:10 gabriel_laddel_p I will double check that all kernel modules are being included, but could have sworn I got em all
20:12 trinque dmesg is your friend.
20:12 trinque also inspecting /dev for the presence of your block device.
20:12 trinque you will see after having loaded the driver for whichever block device, that sdb1 and so on were created.
20:13 trinque in dmesg.
20:13 gabriel_laddel_p why would I have to load a driver for a block device? and sdb1 and so on and so forth are NOT created, no seen anywhere
20:13 gabriel_laddel_p which I suppose credits your /dev/ is not being populated correctly theory
20:14 trinque you could certainly turn off the driver which would present your sata drive if you got too uncheck-happy configuring your kernel.
20:15 gabriel_laddel_p trinque: I'm the very opposite of "uncheck happy", I use the VERY SAME kernel binary being used in
20:15 gabriel_laddel_p "userland"
20:15 gabriel_laddel_p it isn't minimal in any sense.
20:17 trinque dev is mounted, yes?
20:17 trinque done by /etc/init.d/devfs
20:18 trinque maybe the kernel is mounting /dev in an initrd, but when leaving initrd, nobody's attaching it to the new root.
20:18 trinque not looking at the thing in question, so don't know.
20:20 gabriel_laddel_p I don't have it in front of me either so idk. Have not touched this project in a ~month or more. That /etc/init.d/devfs exists is news to me, and will try messing with it next
20:20 trinque on my gentoo box it is part of the "sysinit" runlevel.
20:21 trinque http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/drbpq/?raw=true
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21:08 mod6 I haven't gotten openbsd to do quite what I want yet, even with the -crtscts flag set for stty.
21:10 mod6 Will report if I get it figured out.
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21:35 phf re fdisk: check that you have /sys mount
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21:58 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6D78CEE3D6AFEA2E04CC0ABC29C0013156DCBFC2FD218686EA0470CFEC004DBD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1748...8837 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '128.101.111.12 (ssh-rsa key from 128.101.111.12 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (tcfreeways.itslab.umn.edu. US MN)
21:58 deedbot http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/6D78CEE3D6AFEA2E04CC0ABC29C0013156DCBFC2FD218686EA0470CFEC004DBD << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1512...2087 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '128.101.111.12 (ssh-rsa key from 128.101.111.12 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (tcfreeways.itslab.umn.edu. US MN)
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