#trilema | 2017-04-12

Logged on 2017-04-11 15:15 asciilifeform: the magic of not-sql!

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lobbes

Not-sql may indeed be the route I end up going though, after digesting recent threads here

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lobbes

For e.g., lobbesbot log quoting, conversely, -is- a sql, still plenty of delays

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01:41

lobbes

Seems the lisp-o-matics perform the smoothest in practice

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08:16

Framedragger

http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-12#1642514 << well, run the query that the python runs prepended with explain analyze, see if it's doing some slow sequential scan or sth, perhaps just need to pop an index in :)

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Logged on 2017-04-12 05:40 lobbes: For e.g., lobbesbot log quoting, conversely, -is- a sql, still plenty of delays

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in other lulz >> http://newschannel9.com/news/nation-world/investigation-finds-inmates-built-computers-and-hid-them-in-ceiling-at-marion-prison-04-11-2017 >> 'Investigation finds inmates built computers and hid them in prison ceiling'

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lol!

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and this is a crime ?

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apparently

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weird.

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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/11/ban-cars-newspaper-stockholm-attack/ << moar weird

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hey, cars offer way too much privacy for men!

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"Cars are driven largely by men so by giving a lot of space to cars; we’re giving a lot of space to men — at the expense of women" << lol, indeed

09:10

they want Islam so bad

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aha

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i have nfi wtf swedish dudes are thinking, not chaining the lot of "Space for women" up on a pillory.

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http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-18#1628925 << I'm curious about it as a necessary biological mechanism being triggered.

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Logged on 2017-03-18 12:11 mircea_popescu: the problem, however, is that under the skin-deep "kid is fine", his passive genetics have seriously weakened. if he lives as part of a larger population that does this, a few generations down the road genetic decay manifests and there's literally no hope -- the population will either move to exogamy or die out.

09:13

hm ?

09:13

would have to know how much swedish genes sloshed around with other distinct populations

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maybe sweden's gene pool isn't doing so hot

09:13

well they're tall and blond. so not so much.

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rihgt

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exogamy is never a mass behaviour, though. or at least not usually.

09:17

the tall 'aryan' swedes will go to same place as the original egyptians.

09:17

say hello to the new swedes.

09:18

well the tall aryan swedes should have thought of this before going all jwz and djb.

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mircea_popescu warned them not beating women is unsustainable on the long term. what's their excuse ? trilema was right there. shoulda read it in worship.

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http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EAF54FDE695E66A46DA30A675534FBE16A07D95EF762358611DF3930EAA2BE7E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1735...3483 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '193.239.104.10 (ssh-rsa key from 193.239.104.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)

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http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EAF54FDE695E66A46DA30A675534FBE16A07D95EF762358611DF3930EAA2BE7E << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1683...0417 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '193.239.104.10 (ssh-rsa key from 193.239.104.10 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown DE)

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mod6

mornin'

10:34

morning mod6 how goes it?

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not bad

10:35

mod6

ok :]

10:35

o lol. skimreading

10:36

"blocks" : 382540,

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"connections" : 11,

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nb

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mod6

upto 311k+ blocks. blk0011 nao

10:38

I'm the little engine that could.

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11:01

!~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/m7b3v/?raw=true

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shinohai: The operation succeeded.

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11:42

you know what tastes great with penny stocks? fake news: http://www.barrons.com/articles/fake-investment-news-could-be-here-to-stay-1491951655

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lel

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they're so adorkable, the jews, how seriously they take themselves.

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"fake news"!111 somebody gives a shit what we call things!!11

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12:31

meanwhile at weirdo motel, http://68.media.tumblr.com/d0529eae014a9eab8ac440f54da3a0f1/tumblr_oj0izxZ2871ue0rjuo1_400.gif

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!~seen mats

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asciilifeform: I have not seen mats.

12:49

hm that thing's broken ainnit.

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shinohai ^ ?

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;;seen mats

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hm.

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http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617157

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Logged on 2017-02-23 18:36 mats: i was also stung by the alphago bet

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i can grep too

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but looks like we haven't a 'seen' tool any moar in-chan.

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apparently not.

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!~seen mats

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shinohai: I have not seen mats.

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!~seen asciilifeform

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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform was last seen in #trilema 54 seconds ago: <asciilifeform> but looks like we haven't a 'seen' tool any moar in-chan.

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!~seen doppler

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mircea_popescu: doppler was last seen in #trilema 13 hours, 49 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <doppler> neat

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maybe it expires after a while.

12:53

iirc jhvh1 loses state

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musta rebooted since feb.

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( and so is completely useless for 'seen', the knob imho oughta be fixed or removed )

12:54

i dunno. so person wasn't seen recently.

12:54

prolly best to have multiple bots with different memory lengths lol.

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mircea_popescu: if it reboots tonight, it will think it has never seen whoever. silent failure is Wrong Thing

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it's not a failure inasmuch as you're asking it not god.

12:55

it honestly hadn'\ seen x.

12:55

I almost had trinque 's logotron working but then i moved and lost my notes

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if it, say, 'have not seen mats since feb 22, and no idea re last thursday because i was down' -- would be different matter.

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o.o

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asciilifeform you can grep.

12:56

on other hand 'haven't seen mats and hey maybe my uptime is 5min and fuck you' is sad.

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why ?

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because worse than useless.

12:56

look, you're more than welcome to your epithets but they are not reasons.

12:56

does mircea_popescu keep broken chairs at his house ?

12:57

i keep humans at my house. i have no expectation of divinity in my humans.

12:57

your expectation of divinity in your bots is of the same root as an expectation of friendship supplementation in computers aka "ai".

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or i, in chairs. but if it has a broken leg, it gets fixed or thrown.

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so far it's not clear what leg is broken.

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you asked bot what it saw an' it told you.

12:57

not 'divinity', mircea_popescu , but meeting bare minimal state of art. i.e. no less functional than ye olde gribble.

12:58

can trivially have a bot that saves state ; it's not clear however that such a bot would be BETTER.

12:58

'seen' is a log grep. no need to save additional state beyond what trinque et al already saved.

12:58

unless i am missing something.

12:58

apparently that's not how it's implemented here.

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and i see a legitimate function for this implementation. maybe my idea of "you've been gone too long" is "j no longer recalls you". what's the problem with that ?

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to rewind upstack: i asked after mats because he was the last to mention bulk sources of esp8266.

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mats if you are tuned in, please write in.

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mircea_popescu: my problem is that the period in which it 'does not recall' is 1) random 2) unknown.

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right.

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which makes the thing a roulette.

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quite.

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gotta face the facts : logs are fragmentary ; memory is fragmentary. you won't have perfect recall for physics reasons.

13:01

logs are fragmentary but converge to completeness.

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as they did above.

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and yes, anybody can grep. in-chan commands give a useful added flavour, imho, however.

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( recall the thread re in-chan shell for l1 folx ? i still think it would be neato )

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no argument there. exactly what the flavour should be however...

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nothing wrong with "since i woke up". nothing wrong with "i save state", either.

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#!seen mats

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!#seen mats

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2017-02-23 <mats> i was also stung by the alphago bet

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aaaaah

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ty phf !

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there you go.

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whole point of multi-implementation is to have flavour.

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asciilifeform updates old crib sheet

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mircea_popescu passes muscle memory rewiring pil

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lol

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hehe

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oh oh i have one of those too

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it's called practice

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look who perked up, the spine wonder!

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how goes portland ?

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wonder of wonders, the sun is out and the lawn sprouting seedlings

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and i can put one foot on the other leg's knee today

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trainputing is not tortue today, joy of joys

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Perhaps what you really need is a new hip

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or a better toothbrush

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"but mp i've always used a telephone pole"

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you know i don't think we've ever done the "sonicare" thread in here

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"yes but they have these 70 gram things at the grocery store now"

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ben_vulpes: ooh the brain liquifier!

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lol brain liquifier?

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that must be why my memory's going

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anyways i'm in search of someone who used the 43kHz machine for a week and then voluntarily gave it up

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ben_vulpes: i've been using'em for decade+ but still nfi if 'works' or 'gives feeling of power'

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What's wrong with brass bristle wire brush? Copper content makes it self disinfecting.

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asciilifeform: ever ditch it for a week?

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http://qntra.net/2017/04/us-department-of-justice-absconding-with-botnet-in-spanish-arrest/ << Qntra - US Department of "Justice" Absconding With Botnet In Spanish Arrest

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BingoBoingo: brushes his teeth with an angle grinder ofc

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whiskey same as mouthwash right?

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ben_vulpes: aha, one time went on business without it

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lol "justice"

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<trinque> whiskey same as mouthwash right? << Not any more.

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ah meant me lol

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is joek

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Ah ic

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Now ip

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lol

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also this mouthwash thing, does one really want to nuke the commensal population regularly?

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http://qntra.net/2017/04/us-department-of-justice-absconding-with-botnet-in-spanish-arrest/#comment-93135

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ben_vulpes is full of ignorance in re oral health

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nah, and wouldn't surprise if diet has a lot more influence on mouth health than this brushing thing

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decadent modern innovations!

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what, trinque does not wash arsehole either?

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de-lint ballsack folds?

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11902097/Ancient-Romans-had-perfect-teeth-thanks-to-healthy-low-sugar-diet.html

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I do, but I question "why?!" each time!

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iirc they've found way older corpses than above with same, great teeth, where was caveman's toothbrush

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he had 0 refined sugar.

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that, for sure.

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and generally had the good fortune to get nailed before 'old age'.

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real men don't have folds in their ballsacks!

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real men clean ballsacks with slavegirl faces!

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this sounds like it'd work, the only problem being that slavegirl faces' tongues contain saliva which is actually peptic.

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skin dun like the procedure much. prefers slightly alcaline soap.

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well don't marinade it

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marinate*

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6

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lol mircea_popescu had story about discovering this the hard way, yes?

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feel free to try, i've not yet found an oral method.

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i'm sure.

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anyways, anyone playing along with c11quest may consider the following CXXFLAGS: -std=cxx11 -DBOOST_NO_CXX11_SCOPED_ENUMS

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that last one is mostly a mystery to me, but boost demands it

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anyway, i don't use mouthwash, nor would i. i can feel my tastebuds die it's horrible. i suspect usage of the shit has a lot to do with why us food is such tastel;ess crap. dudes can't taste anyway./

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http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4697629D1A4C3B182613EA1F8F99412543368AE3E053FAD018995B3A337BDD93 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1434...7747 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.197.99.112 (ssh-rsa key from 85.197.99.112 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (galactica.welcome2inter.net. DE)

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http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/4697629D1A4C3B182613EA1F8F99412543368AE3E053FAD018995B3A337BDD93 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1653...9817 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.197.99.112 (ssh-rsa key from 85.197.99.112 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (galactica.welcome2inter.net. DE)

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