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00:01 asciilifeform 'WAT A PERVERT!111' (tm) (r) (lsl)
00:01 asciilifeform hey did we ever have thread re the 'culture test' in lsl ?
00:01 mircea_popescu lol
00:01 mircea_popescu i think i even have trhqat pic
00:02 asciilifeform i only found out late in life that it was actually a 'book code' copyprotection thing.
00:02 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/leisure-suit-pervert.png
00:02 asciilifeform l0l! yes!
00:02 asciilifeform so we must've had thread re subj.
00:02 mircea_popescu i think so
00:03 asciilifeform $#s leisure suit
00:03 asciilifeform hm
00:03 asciilifeform !#s leisure suit
00:03 mircea_popescu article is aug 5th 2015
00:03 asciilifeform $s leisure suit
00:03 a111 6 results for "leisure suit", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=leisure%20suit
00:04 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-13#1129920 <<<< there.
00:04 a111 Logged on 2015-05-13 04:00 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://maakal.blogspot.com.ar/2013/06/leisure-suit-larry-age-verification.html
00:04 asciilifeform http://allowe.com/games/larry/tips-manuals/lsl1-age-quiz.html << timeless lel.
00:04 mircea_popescu o yeah the factory where they made spares!
~ 16 minutes ~
00:21 * thestringpuller ponders if mircea_popescu is the real life Raymond Reddington
00:29 mircea_popescu whossat
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01:15 mircea_popescu !!up vinimore
01:15 deedbot vinimore voiced for 30 minutes.
01:15 vinimore #Eurola
01:15 mircea_popescu heh carnage.
01:16 vinimore wait... how do I go to the chat again?
01:17 mircea_popescu /join #eulora
01:18 vinimore it says I'm the only user hahaha
01:19 mircea_popescu no ? mind the typing.
01:19 vinimore my adress
01:19 vinimore 1Bt6S6aP5BH618ZFp2e1LZEmDZW53Ur4mS
01:19 mircea_popescu alrighty.
01:22 vinimore is there anything else I can do?
01:22 mircea_popescu not right now ; i'm about to go to bed. but prolly tomorrow ; and besides there's other people who want to hire noobs, so ask in chan
01:24 vinimore alright! :)
01:24 vinimore going to bed too
01:26 deedbot http://www.contravex.com/2016/09/09/why-i-work-out/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Why I work out.
~ 6 hours 16 minutes ~
07:43 mircea_popescu !!key Lestat9
07:43 deedbot No such key.
~ 50 minutes ~
08:33 mircea_popescu and in other pi delta chi news : sluts can't spell. http://66.media.tumblr.com/fd8ac4df3e24c750579697d584510b07/tumblr_od52zaeZCw1ud9ntao1_1280.jpg
08:34 shinohai Our beloved fleanode has been cranky I see
08:43 shinohai I kinda wish BitBet was still around in old form to bet on how many of these "companies" will still be around in 12 months https://bnktothefuture.com/search/pitches
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09:16 mircea_popescu hard to properly word a "company not around" clause is the problem. according to usg, ibm and cisco are both "still around".
09:19 mircea_popescu !~later tell covertress http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/597s4/?raw=true << fix your znc.
09:19 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
09:20 mircea_popescu in other news, check out the redundancy on that chick, three different block As.
~ 1 hours 38 minutes ~
10:58 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539176 << fountain of lulz. e.g., 'Loyyal 'Pre-Series A' - The Internet of Loyalty'
10:58 a111 Logged on 2016-09-10 12:43 shinohai: I kinda wish BitBet was still around in old form to bet on how many of these "companies" will still be around in 12 months https://bnktothefuture.com/search/pitches
10:59 asciilifeform and hey, various ancient scams still zombieing along
11:00 asciilifeform 'factom', even
11:00 asciilifeform $s factom
11:00 a111 13 results for "factom", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=factom
11:00 covertress thank you, mircea_popescu. as you can see, i'm having connectivity problems today with my hurricane-damaged isp.
11:05 mircea_popescu and in other feminist gamer news, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzsahr4chg
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11:24 deedbot http://trilema.com/2016/a-complete-theory-of-politics/ << Trilema - A complete theory of politics
11:32 mod6 mornin'
11:33 shinohai o/ mod6 the African build went fine btw
11:33 mod6 jurov: will there be a monthly Treasury report coming through for The Bitcoin Foundation?
11:34 mod6 shinohai: awesome!
11:34 mod6 yea, my offline build worked great too.
11:35 shinohai Will try offline build today when I get a bit more organized
11:37 mod6 cool man
11:48 covertress submitted for everyone's listening pleasure and philosophical debate: Stefan Molyneux | The Deadly Superstition of Human Rights (and other gems) https://youtu.be/ewSaQ9u5lwU
11:48 asciilifeform $s molyneux
11:48 a111 4 results for "molyneux", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=molyneux
11:49 covertress :) ty asciilifeform
11:51 asciilifeform iirc he's one of the mr.mold-style americanized faux-anarchy fellas.
11:54 phf (hmm, a111 lost that message during reconciliation, going to fix that issue..)
12:03 phf ok fixed
12:03 asciilifeform neato phf . it worx.
12:05 mircea_popescu o speaking of lost messages...
12:06 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160910/#323 << ahaha check it out, he has it.
12:06 scriba Logged on 2016-09-10: [05:24:47] <vinimore> going to bed too
12:06 * mircea_popescu was convinced it'd be missing
12:08 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160910/#368 << i'm not going to listen to audio ; but seems he's spreading the gospel neh ?
12:08 scriba Logged on 2016-09-10: [15:51:09] <asciilifeform> iirc he's one of the mr.mold-style americanized faux-anarchy fellas.
12:08 * asciilifeform can't be arsed to listen to it either, he's listening to police radio and it is gut-bustingly hilarious
12:08 mircea_popescu "i have my liberty and i dun need your dumb head to give me no rights" as far as ancient trilemisms go
12:17 mircea_popescu !~bc,stats
12:17 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: Error: "bc,stats" is not a valid command.
12:18 mircea_popescu !~stats
12:18 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
12:18 mircea_popescu hm
12:18 shinohai !bcstats
12:18 shinohai !~bcstats
12:19 jhvh1 shinohai: Current Blocks: 429146 | Current Difficulty: 2.2075590833037228E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 429407 | Next Difficulty In: 261 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 18 hours, 54 minutes, and 14 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
12:19 mircea_popescu ah ty
12:20 shinohai I didn't like the extra comma, twas removed
12:20 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: molyneux cribs from trilema with regards to the 'rights' fiction but then takes that perfectly reasoned (and seasoned) protein and tries to cook it... non-violently
12:20 pete_dushenski iirc
12:21 pete_dushenski ends up with usual probiotic vegan fare obv., because killing anything more than a carrot is mean mkay
12:27 shinohai How dare you pete_dushenski, Apiaceae lives matter too.
12:27 mircea_popescu yeah well, whatcha gonna do you know ?
12:30 pete_dushenski shinohai: i guess there's always eating sterilised dirt
12:31 shinohai What about all those poor microorganisms that would suffer and die in the dirt during the sterilization process?
12:32 mircea_popescu they'll go to the great kitty litter in heaven ; which nobody ever changes.
12:32 pete_dushenski better they die in the ovens than being slowly and painfully digested by stomach enzymes. sterilisation is the humane kill, like kosher neck slitting
12:33 * pete_dushenski goes to check kitty litter to see if it needs changing
12:33 shinohai lol
12:40 * pete_dushenski returns to see that kitty litter is fine but that he's waaay behind on trilema
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13:17 covertress there's always soylent. people, not https://www.soylent.com/ - further, i agree with you adlai, http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-10#1047512
13:17 a111 Logged on 2015-03-10 11:48 adlai: what really amazed/disappointed me was that NONE of the initial press coverage of 'soylent cream' mentioned 'soylent green'
13:18 mircea_popescu coupla comments turn into 6k words in the blink of an eye.
13:19 shinohai See yesterdays gossipd thread
13:20 mircea_popescu this is not the worst though. there's some 5-6-700 comment articles from back in the romanian days.
13:20 * shinohai needs a Romanian camwhore to help fast=track his language development.
13:21 mircea_popescu shouldn't be that hard to find.
13:23 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: on my trilema gorge sesh i noticed a linking inconsistency in the elliot chronicles. all subsequent parts link to their direct predecessors with the exception of http://trilema.com/2016/the-story-of-elliot-rodger-by-elliot-rodger-adnotated-part-three/ which links to part one.
13:23 mircea_popescu ah! lettuce fix then
13:25 BingoBoingo He called it lettuce!
13:27 pete_dushenski prolly meant spinach
13:27 BingoBoingo Nah, James wanted to introduce him to spinach
13:27 mircea_popescu i have no idea what's going on...
13:28 BingoBoingo RTFF - Real Time Fan Fiction
13:28 mircea_popescu btw, have you ever notice how many girls call spinach spinagge ?
13:29 pete_dushenski in other alpha greens, i can totally get behind the definition of 'alpha male' that doesn't involve maintaining palaces full of harem girls. a deep sigh of relief was breathed across the land.
13:29 mircea_popescu heh.
13:30 pete_dushenski mostly because that many harem girls required a shedload of eunichs to keep a lid on things, which in turn require a whole castration and selection mechanism and doctors and nurses and orphanages and on and on and on
13:31 mircea_popescu you mean euniggs.
13:31 * mircea_popescu highfives himself for the most contortedly elaborate constructed joke in human history.
13:31 pete_dushenski blackies do make fine specimens
13:31 mircea_popescu take that, RTJJ!
13:33 pete_dushenski i guess the white ones woulda been euwhiggas or something
13:33 pete_dushenski sounds greek even
13:35 shinohai mircea_popescu you mean euniggs. <<< top kek
13:36 pete_dushenski shinohai: speaking of keksicles, did you get a bash page up yet ?
13:37 pete_dushenski i'd be happy to help moderate it, or even host it if need be
13:37 shinohai Imma try and have it up by first of week, I got sidetracked with this trb makefile thing
13:38 shinohai But yeah, appreciate the offer of help. I miss perusing the bash-ism and really want that feature back.
13:39 pete_dushenski np, lemma know if you need me :)
13:39 shinohai bash.contravex.com
13:40 pete_dushenski sure!
13:41 shinohai Kinda has a ring to it!
13:44 pete_dushenski ok well ima set that up and we'll go from there.
13:48 pete_dushenski bbl.
13:56 ben_vulpes phf: that's my fault, uploaded a genesis.vpatch.sig
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15:00 phf four vpatches have been certified by the vulpes family, http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis http://btcbase.org/patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.1 http://btcbase.org/patches/rm_rf_upnp and http://btcbase.org/patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.2-https_snipsnip
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15:00 shinohai http://archive.is/W6xmf <<< this will end well for sure
15:00 phf ^ cc asciilifeform
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16:03 covertress to see the farm, is to leave it ┻━┻︵ \(°□°)/ ︵ ┻━┻ https://youtu.be/KdL5y6ZuBic
16:05 BingoBoingo Uh, no. You must go to farm to see farm.
16:14 mircea_popescu who bought the farm ?
16:14 BingoBoingo eggog
16:17 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160910/#451 << ahh, all that lovely red.
16:17 scriba Logged on 2016-09-10: [19:00:17] <phf> four vpatches have been certified by the vulpes family, http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis http://btcbase.org/patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.1 http://btcbase.org/patches/rm_rf_upnp and http://btcbase.org/patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.2-https_snipsnip
16:17 mircea_popescu violence IS the answer.
16:17 shinohai It's the most effective tool of the Republic!
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17:07 deedbot http://qntra.net/2016/09/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-5-tmr/ << Qntra - Not Quite News Roundup Xtend 5 (TM)(R)
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17:37 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5182
17:39 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539271 << lol how did this get urlsnipped
17:39 a111 Logged on 2016-09-10 19:00 phf: four vpatches have been certified by the vulpes family, http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis http://btcbase.org/patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.1 http://btcbase.org/patches/rm_rf_upnp and http://btcbase.org/patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.2-https_snipsnip
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17:40 phf asciilifeform: shitty url "parser" :> i've been meaning to replace it, but i'm working on something else right now
17:41 asciilifeform 'CoinTelegraph author Rebecca Campbell asked "If Bitcoin Had Sex, Could It Be Female?"' << wat
17:41 asciilifeform in other noose, http://searchengineland.com/european-court-says-linking-illegal-content-copyright-infringement-258442
17:46 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=5172
17:47 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Twas a headline with too much "Wat" not to round up xtend
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18:25 mircea_popescu hey, rebecca does what she can.
18:26 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "began to alleges"
18:34 mircea_popescu Framedragger tried that elena thing ; lots of lols were had.
18:37 BingoBoingo ty, fxd
18:39 mircea_popescu “WE CAUTION WE HOLD TH BOMB, IF ONE TRIES TO (TREACHERY) WILL DIE AND SAIDTHAT YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO PlAY DIE WE NEED SEVENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WITH OUT THE PIECE WE SEE YOU WELL AND YOUR FAMILY ARE WAITING FOR YOU AGINE NO (TREACHERY). (NB) READ 4 MINUTES SENT THE HOSTAGE BOMB WE NEED THE $75,000.00…” << check this out, spammers got omega rage from being ignored by the rich people.
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19:07 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, this is what happens when you don't build an Atlantic wall to keep spammers from becoming immigrants
19:10 mircea_popescu by this point, im persuaded a half hour caning session for any would be mugger would do a lot more agains the phenomenon than anything the "legal system" has to offer.
19:10 mircea_popescu lafond makes a good point, it's an r-strategy.
19:10 mircea_popescu also, calling ringo a "bank robber" is a little off ; by this token you can call every retard who broke his own pipes a plumber.
19:11 mircea_popescu they're just petty thieves with the wrong address, walked in the bank because to them it looks just like the 7/11
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19:14 jurov mod6 huh i forgot?
19:14 jurov apparently...
19:19 mircea_popescu "I have never had a need to believe. Though this mental state of apostasy has saved me the anger that accompanies the disillusioned man in his 30s who finally discovers that some important pillar of his life was built upon a lie, it is no sign of superior intellect." << lafond in peak form.
19:21 jurov mod6: fxd
19:23 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539300 << here in the heart of mordor (and quite likely elsewhere in the land of the phreeee) the banks react. i.e. they are abolishing walk-in rooms with tellers etc. entirely. atm or gtfo.
19:23 a111 Logged on 2016-09-10 23:11 mircea_popescu: they're just petty thieves with the wrong address, walked in the bank because to them it looks just like the 7/11
19:23 mircea_popescu makes sense.
19:23 mircea_popescu who the fuck in his right mind wants to go talk to a teller.
19:23 asciilifeform ~nobody
19:24 asciilifeform esp. not after the machines happily eat cheques etc.
19:24 mod6 thanks jurov
19:24 mircea_popescu the poor got their ebt or w/e it is ; fuse banks with restaurants, they can have a waiter to take your order and a bank teller. who the fuck heard of this, seated servant before me standing ?!
19:24 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: and eat bills as well these days
19:24 * asciilifeform hasn't been inside a bank in ~decade
19:24 asciilifeform not counting that incident with the box (in logs a few yrs ago)
19:25 mircea_popescu esp in the 80s, they had those ridiculous complicated paths cordoned off...
19:25 mircea_popescu "nigga, i wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire, who the fuck do you imagine is going through artistic queue movements."
19:25 asciilifeform what 80s
19:25 asciilifeform now also.
19:26 asciilifeform in places where there are still walk-in bank.
19:27 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1539285 << why does ben_vulpes not show up on, e.g., genesis ?
19:27 a111 Logged on 2016-09-10 21:39 a111: Logged on 2016-09-10 19:00 phf: four vpatches have been certified by the vulpes family, http://btcbase.org/patches/genesis http://btcbase.org/patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.1 http://btcbase.org/patches/rm_rf_upnp and http://btcbase.org/patches/bitcoin-asciilifeform.2-https_snipsnip
19:28 asciilifeform (or anywhere else)
19:28 asciilifeform bug in viewer ?
19:28 ben_vulpes nah, i show up elsewhere
19:28 asciilifeform ah hm yes
19:28 asciilifeform further downstream
19:28 ben_vulpes getting to it
19:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_orphanage_thermonuke << did i ever tell phf how much i enjoy looking at the colours ?
19:29 asciilifeform it is a more or less perfect vscope.
19:30 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/patches/malleus_mikehearnificarum << what happened here, phf ? i know i signed malleus and versionstring (i wrote'em) ?
19:35 mircea_popescu tsk.
19:40 ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-10#1538902 << you'll probably find this as useful as any other rodent carcass left on your pillow, but over the last 2 months i've racked my own metal, migrated out of virtualization to the new box, ported my blog to mp-wp, and stood the obvious tmsr services up on the new box (blog, paster, node). it doesn't look like much from the outside, but paying down debt of necessity
19:40 a111 Logged on 2016-09-10 02:04 asciilifeform: i like ben_vulpes but he has not been catching mice.
19:40 ben_vulpes means not buying new shinies.
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20:05 phf asciilifeform: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/seals/ ask mod6, but i suspect that both were reground, and you didn't resign either since that happened
20:05 phf also ben_vulpes was redoing his patches for technical reasons
20:07 asciilifeform phf: wai wat
20:07 phf ha
20:08 phf a111 can't even
20:08 asciilifeform http://cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com/11420140210147.jpg << oblig.
20:10 phf asciilifeform: well, if you look at the seals folder you'll noticed that your sigs for the two patches are not there either, nor do i have them in my backup. since i remember meticulously going over mailing list and collecting vpatches and sigs, then correlating them to what mod6 had, then ... etc. etc. i suspect that there's some reason for why they are missing but i don't remember what it is. i suspect that it has something to do with regrinds t
20:10 phf hat happened at some point?
20:18 mod6 phf: if you're talking about 'malleus_mikehearnificarum' and 'programmable-versionstring' then you'd be correct. they were reground, and never resigned by alf.
20:18 asciilifeform hm.
20:21 mod6 in fact, i think you said that you wouldn't sign them.
20:21 asciilifeform waiwat
20:21 asciilifeform link?
20:22 mod6 i dunno, it was back in the day.
20:22 asciilifeform i'd like to know if i actually said such a thing
20:22 mod6 im not gonna worry about it. i went through some pain to get them exactly reground correctly, you checked them (iirc) and said they were "correct." but that was pretty much the end of it.
20:22 asciilifeform i will sign.
20:22 mod6 i don't have time to dig it up. but.. i might be mis-remembering
20:22 asciilifeform where was that hopper phf made, again
20:23 BingoBoingo I think I vaguely remember. Something, something, makework, may have been argument
20:23 mod6 anyway, please, check out the reground ones, make sure they look good, and if you feel good about 'em, send me a sig :]
20:28 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160910/#520 << sounds good, actually.
20:29 mircea_popescu http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20160911/#11 << mice come back to biteche!
20:29 scriba Logged on 2016-09-11: [00:18:10] <asciilifeform> hm.
20:31 phf asciilifeform: just wotpaste'em to channel
20:36 deedbot http://cascadianhacker.com/extracting-and-hashing-bitcoin-block-headers << CH - Extracting and Hashing Bitcoin Block Headers
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20:39 mircea_popescu phf does a111 autoprocess patches from chan or do you just do by hand ?
20:40 phf mircea_popescu: i just do it by hand
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20:40 mircea_popescu a very greedy patchatron might be a good idea eventually.
20:41 phf true, but right now the number of patches is so low i go out of my way to grab anything i can find anyway
20:42 mod6 this is a good thing.
20:42 mod6 it takes time to read through these things and validate their correctness.
20:43 mircea_popescu honestly, i think the people who abstract-and-code are idiots anyway. first, you do it by hand. then, you automate what you did. this way a) end up with something that actually works, and even without much design skill is well designed, by mother nature's help ; b) avoiud the trap of "i spent five engineer hours to save myself thirty three minutes of secretarial work over the course of ten years."
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20:45 BingoBoingo THe ability to do 30 continuous minutes of secretarial work ought to be up there with the ability to load a half ton of topsoil into a truck as a bare minimum requirement for employabilitit
20:45 mircea_popescu and of course the "256 bytes that changed the world" thing referenced from one raddcliffe's "codesupository" blogspot blog is gone.
20:47 mircea_popescu "It is important to note that it is possible that instead of finding the magic ID, you instead find a bunch of zero bytes. In my own copy of the blockchain I have encountered a case when parsing through a .dat file, where the header is missing. Instead there is a large block of zero bytes and then the blockchain picks up again later. I don't know why/how this occurs."
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20:47 mircea_popescu heh.
20:48 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539363 << i could've sworn there was a hopper i could drop into
20:48 a111 Logged on 2016-09-11 00:40 phf: mircea_popescu: i just do it by hand
20:48 mircea_popescu i vaguely recall this too, but maybe it was a temporary thing
20:48 asciilifeform possibly.
20:49 mircea_popescu of course !#patch http://blabla works
20:49 asciilifeform waiwat
20:49 asciilifeform that exists ?
20:49 asciilifeform what's it connected to ?
20:49 mircea_popescu no i mean. ~could work~.
20:49 asciilifeform ah - yes.
20:50 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539371 << such cosmic ray !
20:50 a111 Logged on 2016-09-11 00:47 mircea_popescu: "It is important to note that it is possible that instead of finding the magic ID, you instead find a bunch of zero bytes. In my own copy of the blockchain I have encountered a case when parsing through a .dat file, where the header is missing. Instead there is a large block of zero bytes and then the blockchain picks up again later. I don't know why/how this occurs."
20:50 asciilifeform i keep forgetting what knobs the heathens lack
20:50 asciilifeform in this case, evidently, '--verifyall'
20:50 mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah, the code he's using (bitcoin qt! dude's a total eth-dork) is really shitty.
20:51 mircea_popescu "Another important note needs to be made here. The block-length is *not* equal to the amount of data in the block! Meaning, after you read the last entry in a block, that offset often can be, and will be, *less* than the total length of the block reported. Your parser must take this into account and seek the file pointer to wherever the next location in the file is indicated by the block length value." << another example
20:51 mircea_popescu "does this mean media wastage ?" "wut"
20:51 asciilifeform this is illustrated in my blkcut.
20:51 mircea_popescu aha.
20:51 asciilifeform blkcutting is O(N).
20:52 asciilifeform because tards.
20:52 mircea_popescu kinda why i'm reading through this spec ben_vulpes dug up.
20:52 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-09-11#1539361 << aaah
20:52 a111 Logged on 2016-09-11 00:36 deedbot: http://cascadianhacker.com/extracting-and-hashing-bitcoin-block-headers << CH - Extracting and Hashing Bitcoin Block Headers
20:52 asciilifeform binary-types rocks.
20:52 mircea_popescu yea
20:52 asciilifeform i learned of it from naggum.
20:53 asciilifeform it is interesting because it illustrates the CORRECT way to do 'formats'
20:53 asciilifeform i.e. to specify the relationship between the bits and the logical meanings thereof.
20:54 asciilifeform ada has similar mechanism also.
20:54 asciilifeform after learning this, orcish code where SEPARATE 'eaters' and 'shitters' for binary turdolade are seen, turns the stomach.
20:55 asciilifeform ben_vulpes gives a marvelous example of binary-types usage in subj link.
20:56 mircea_popescu this guy is pissing me off.
20:56 asciilifeform who the hell is ratcliff anyway
20:57 mircea_popescu one of.
20:57 asciilifeform snore of an article. ~everything in there is easier found in the code.
20:57 asciilifeform who, i wonder, is the intended reader of this.
20:57 mircea_popescu no but his considerations on the subject of time!
20:57 mircea_popescu his oppinion
20:58 mircea_popescu motherfucker...
20:58 asciilifeform where's that
20:59 mircea_popescu grep for "government work"
20:59 asciilifeform 'I do not know why Satoshi did not decide to include a transaction time stamp. It's only 4 bytes, and it is a valuable piece of information that people really need access to. For now, all you can do is use the timestamp of the block and hope that's close enough for government work. And by government work, I mean close enough for tax and accounting purposes. Since the value of bitcoin is very volatile and can go up and down by mas
20:59 asciilifeform sive amounts over a short period of time, clearly this coarse and inaccurate timing value is woefully inadequate.' << ?
20:59 mircea_popescu few paragraphs around there yes
21:00 asciilifeform i dun get it. what would be the use of a tx timestamp
21:00 mircea_popescu anyway. all these variable length integers are a fucking eyesore.
21:00 asciilifeform they certainly have 0 justification in bitcoin
21:01 asciilifeform srsly, to reduce space taken up by 32-bit nulls
21:01 asciilifeform is all they really do there.
21:01 mircea_popescu make a pile of fixed output hashes, construct a variable length format to hold it all
21:01 mircea_popescu what fucking school of retards is this.
21:01 asciilifeform it isn't pgp where you might have a 16384-bit key or a 1024 etc.
21:01 mircea_popescu and moreover, if you DO variable length, then do proper fucking variable length. everywhere.
21:01 asciilifeform even THERE ordinary run-length compressor would solve same problem
21:02 asciilifeform without cluttering up the bottom logic layer.
21:02 asciilifeform think about it.
21:02 mircea_popescu no, i know./
21:02 asciilifeform why do folks force compression into bignumatron ?
21:02 asciilifeform quite the mystery to asciilifeform .
21:02 mircea_popescu because they were raised by a single woman married to a single man in a house with a single room, one chair and one teacup.
21:03 asciilifeform eh plenty of functional folk grew up in single-hut, single-cow etc. pre-ww2 ru etc.
21:04 mircea_popescu yes ; but the ones that didn't turn out functional didn't because of it ; the ones that did, they did in spite of it.
21:04 mircea_popescu "plenty of smart people on ivy league campuses" "sure, and plenty of happy jews in auschwitz."
21:05 asciilifeform auschwitz had > notable graduates as harvard, in the period it existed.
21:05 asciilifeform jack tramiel, for instance.
21:05 mircea_popescu so i hear.
21:05 asciilifeform you can tell something interesting about modern usa that it fellates steve jobs but not jack tramiel.
21:06 mircea_popescu wasn't on tv.
21:06 asciilifeform tramiel is sorta like that cartoon co. manager mircea_popescu described in old article
21:06 asciilifeform what was his name...
21:06 asciilifeform the 'not sexy but works' fella
21:06 mircea_popescu quimby
21:06 asciilifeform aha!
21:06 asciilifeform him.
21:07 asciilifeform $s tramiel
21:07 a111 15 results for "tramiel", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=tramiel
21:07 asciilifeform ^ looks like we had thread.
21:09 asciilifeform to revisit this wonderful digression, i've long suspected that the notion that 'great conditions' are great for output, and 'harsh gulag' - not, is not exactly true.
21:10 asciilifeform consider the sharashka folk, etc.
21:10 mircea_popescu what are you talking about. it is exactly false.
21:10 asciilifeform noshit.jpg
21:10 mircea_popescu worst thing you can do for kids is make it easy for them
21:10 asciilifeform vs modern american engineer who gets 28 flavours of ice cream in company cafe.
21:11 mircea_popescu holy shit apparently this guy's cca 2014 windoze prb stores blockchain in 128mb files, 100+ of them by that point ?
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21:12 asciilifeform after the leveldb thing aha.
21:12 mircea_popescu nuts.
21:12 mircea_popescu iirc windows doesn't handle more than 64k files per directory ? neh ?
21:12 asciilifeform 575 of these by now.
21:13 mircea_popescu !~calc 2*16 * 128 * 2*20
21:13 asciilifeform ( i still have one of these things going in the dungeon )
21:13 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 2*16 * 128 * 2*20 = 163840
21:13 mircea_popescu !~calc 2**16 * 128 * 2**20
21:13 jhvh1 mircea_popescu: 2**16 * 128 * 2**20 = 8796093022208
21:13 mircea_popescu so hard limit at 8tb ?
21:13 asciilifeform seems like.
21:14 mircea_popescu but this is ... insane ?
21:14 asciilifeform sanity on winblows is precious as rubies.
21:14 asciilifeform ain't much of it to be had.
21:14 mod6 more, i'd say.
21:14 mircea_popescu rubies aren't that rare.
21:14 mod6 ya
21:14 mircea_popescu a good fuck is ~= equivalent.
21:16 mircea_popescu "Binary-types is *not* helpful in reading files with variable bit-length code-words, such as most compressed file formats. It will basically only work with file-formats based on 8-bit bytes (octets). Also, at this time no floating-point types are supported out of the box. The ieee-floats library might be useful."
21:16 mircea_popescu aaahem.
21:16 * asciilifeform as a small kid thought that laser ~demanded~ ruby, and that this was the reason why there were not lasers everywhere in orc household
21:16 mircea_popescu we were just wondering why, right ? well, here's a coincidental why : this way, it dun work natively with lisp
21:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not especially hard to bolt on variable fields.
21:17 asciilifeform ( perhaps next lunchtime project for ben_vulpes )
21:17 mircea_popescu i'm an anthropologist! i look for these things!
21:17 asciilifeform the seeker - will find. aha.
21:18 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ingress and egress, if you wish. though they refer to entrance and exit by willing agents under their own power.
21:22 * asciilifeform bbl, meat
~ 1 hours 12 minutes ~
22:34 pete_dushenski shinohai, phf, ben_vulpes would one of you gents be do kind as to pass along a signed copy of the wp-mp pkg ?
22:44 pete_dushenski so kind*
22:50 pete_dushenski "A U.S. government safety agency on Friday urged all consumers to stop using Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phones, which are prone to catch fire, and top airlines globally banned their use during flights.
22:50 pete_dushenski " << safety first kids
22:54 pete_dushenski usg.aapl badly needs the negative press for its primary opponent as iphone 7 plus is set to launch with ~no useful upgrades other than double-lensed camera.
22:54 pete_dushenski how convenient.
23:03 pete_dushenski "Pence and his wife, Karen, reported adjusted gross income over the 10 years ranging from about $113,000 last year to over $187,000 in 2009, while the effective state and federal tax rate ranged from a low of just over 10 percent in 2013 to a high of 16.5 percent in 2014, the figures show." << in other news, this is not a bad tax rate for a us middle classman from indiana, really. vp pence is either a
23:03 pete_dushenski donation machine or a write-off machine.
23:05 pete_dushenski for comparison, "Clinton's running mate, U.S. Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, along with his wife, Anne Holton, released 10 years of tax returns at the same time in August. They paid a federal effective tax rate of 20.3 percent on income of about $313,000 in 2015."
23:13 pete_dushenski http://archive.is/J86hJ << speaking of problems chez one infinite loop drive, "Apple changed the focus of the project, shifting from an emphasis on designing and producing an automobile to building out the underlying technology for an autonomous vehicle."
23:13 pete_dushenski if this isn't pure carcoin 2.0 except with "underlying autonomous technology" instead of altcoin 2.0 "underlying blockchain technology", i don't know what is. top kek.
23:14 pete_dushenski "we realised that we have no business in bitcoin/auto industry so we've elected to take the easier road of pretending that our deep reserves of offshore cash can be used for anything other than mattress stuffing. if you don't mind, we're just going to plug our ears now LALALALALALA"
~ 27 minutes ~
23:41 phf one floppy netbsd https://github.com/user340/fdgw2
23:42 phf there was some old obscure reason why we ditched openbsd. i think it was driver support on that backup gardget
23:42 phf err netbsd
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