#trilema | 2016-06-29

police still publishes these i imagine. day and half worth of intern's time.

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(yes, /me suspects he's ~mostly eating shit. baltimore homicide rate still the same 30ish / 100k it's anywhere else ; rape with violence the same 40, robbery the same 500, assault the same 500, etc.)

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now, it's true that baltimore was scoring ~400 homicides / 100k, which IS notable, though perhaps a tad short for what he's depicting. nevertheless - that was in the early 90s.

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these are elsewhere

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b00lcrap had one

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asciilifeform │ wtf does it mean to 'cost' the folks with the printing press something. << same as it cost whatever fake "elite" zimbabwe had, but more spectacularly?

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ftr, new york is also at ~30 homicides / 100k.

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trinque nah, zimbabwe borrows in dollars.

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his $turkeys are all assets that aren't

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they own the same number of lockheed martins and johnson and johnson's, and this is separate and untouchable, meanwhile the currency that flows through their veins evaporates?

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this is nonsense

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the numbers are not so interesting

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low on account of meat depletion.

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some of the people at the "top" of the US economy might survive just like some in the USSR did

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most wont

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or does some consumer products company somehow "pivot" to surviving a situation where consumers don't have money

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and if not, then the "wealth" of most of those lizards vanishes

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trinque: you'd be surprised

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~somebody~ always has money.

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gotta have trade volume to sustain a market

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you can't just have infinite turkeys and nothing moving

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wealth has both to do with what you have and also what you can get for it

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you've observed some things can't be had for any price depending on the configuration of the world at that time

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or at all, if the ask is a poorly formed question

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http://crimebaltimore.com << but scam. the 'shootings' in particular -- they have these automated detectors, one cannot infer that ~somebody~ caught the bullet

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as their ability to wield economic activity in the world declines, they grow smaller and less powerful

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this is the fucking definition of power

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adlai waves

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ohey, you're alive

00:46

how goes?

00:46

live but krazy!

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it's worth taking antipsychotics for the amazing clarity you get once you stop taking them

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i'm sorry to hear that

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i'm glad to have stopped! and have found again the motivation to bitcoin

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDdzPzk-e-U << I've never heard a worse bunch of dickless cucks.

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it also helps that bitcoin has found the motivation to do the dance again, timed well with my asylum exit

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now try not frying yourself with acid or whatever

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or do, and explain to asciilifeform what can happen when you over-leverage yourself

00:50

"but my true worth is denominated in the love of god!"

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my true worth, unlike my net worth, is denominated in TruCoin (tm) (c,) (r) (coming soon to an altcoin daemon near you!)

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adlai studies https://online-go.com/puzzle/2907 (HTML5 turd containing the first third of Cho Chikun's "Encyclopedia of Life & Death")

00:57

if you're new at this - the whole point is to do the trial and error in your head. if the computer move surprises you, you have to hit reset and stare at the setup for another fifteen seconds

00:57

this "EU parliament" room is terrible, looks like a shitty state college lecture hall

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http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492578 << not so much nonsense. currency has a major future-looking function.

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Logged on 2016-06-29 04:16 trinque: this is nonsense

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this was true even in the old days of gold coins. consider the case of two neighbouring countries, each with the same exact mirror arrangements, same pop count, same 100 tons of gold total, circulating as 100mn 1gram pieces.

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if I had 40 billion turkey dollars and suddenly had to divest from USD denominated assets and companies that relied on consumer spending, where would I go?

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the half to the left gets attacked by the huns ; the half to the right has some derp discover the indies and goes into trade mode, florence style.

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now, the average coin piece in the left changes hands once a year. for safety. this means the circulation (ie, notional market, in the primitive sense this works then) is ~100mn pcs/year.

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meanwhile on the right, each coin piece changes hands once a week. for trade! thismeans the circulation is about 5bn pcs/year

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suddenly you can appreciate the macrofinance problems.

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when people get excited the "monetary mass" (which is not directly equivalent to the pedestrian notion of money) expands. when people flee to safety, it contracts.

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and all this happens without any sort of cheating needed or implied.

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yep. what I question is how a massive contraction, in a situation where it's *all* notional and wtf is actually valuable, would *not* harm lizard whoever.

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well, that's problematic, in no small part because of the traditional villain "ha-ha! it was my plan all along!"

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http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492583 << actually that happened in the 90s. all the jam tomorrow "web as a business" "venture capital" bs is exactly that - pivoting to try and survive the situation where consumers don't have money. pretend data is valuable and someone cares, pretend advertising is a business, get people to "invest" in this nonsense, it's a thing.

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Logged on 2016-06-29 04:18 trinque: or does some consumer products company somehow "pivot" to surviving a situation where consumers don't have money

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yeah, pivoting towards death, not out of the way of it

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myeah. it's a thing looking just about ready to deflate worth a trn or two.

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http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492599 << - >> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-15#1132722

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Logged on 2015-05-15 04:41 mircea_popescu: there is that rabi and goats story, but no.

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Logged on 2016-06-29 04:47 adlai: it's worth taking antipsychotics for the amazing clarity you get once you stop taking them

01:21

exactly this. the neuroleptic goat has its place alongside the tolerance break and other shirts of assorted hairyness

01:25

"One cannot imagine Ethereum community doing nothing in response to an existential hack. Doing nothing would say we lack courage and we let thieves walk away with their loot. HF is a must now. The community is reaching a new consensus."

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ethereum community reads more and more like paycoin community.

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anyone remember paycoin ?

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anyway. existential hacks!

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honestly, why even bother with a fork at this point. just reset the testnet, call it "The Next Frontier"

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adlai forced mistakes ; long string thereof.

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this is the cheapest fix: reset the chain

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it's what testnet does whenever it gets too fucked

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and ethereum is a billion dollar testnet

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lol. "billion" dollar. currently usg self-trading on poloniex just about 99.999%

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sure. but this "usg" is still a bunch of smart muppets scamming the stupid muppets, money is changing hands

01:28

nope, not really. pretty much one single party wash-trading.

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but i agree with you in the sense of "coin moves from stupid pocket to smart"

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the stupid consist of cents and dimes, sum to a thousand dollars if that.

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the truly stupid suddenly remember last week to forget their presale password. true story (not mine)

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but it reminded me of "anton_osika"! remember anton, kids?

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don't be anton.

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Nah anton forgot his contract with mp signing key

~ 2 hours 28 minutes ~

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misplacing a key and misremembering a password are the same class of fuckup

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adlai told his shrink, as an example of "delusions", about ''meta-#ba''

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adlai told his #t, as an example of "truth" (Schemers Hate Him!), about ''shrink''

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ben_vulpes went to procure a server today (8 cores! 3.33 ghz! 32 gb of ram! probably the heaviest individual slice of computronium i've ever hefted) to find that it was previously operated by a local company of some amount of repute.

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while picking delicately through the trash in the 2br housing lord only knows how many ops monkeys it came up that the machine was in no way deprovisioned.

05:20

i am torn - on one hand, this is a marvelously spiffy box. on the other - what treasures might lie on those hdds?!

~ 2 hours 48 minutes ~

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https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0075.mediawiki << The first of many AML/KYC improvements proposed by derps to add to bitcoin.

~ 1 hours 52 minutes ~

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;;later tell ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492654 >> << http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/cff36f92-0107-4529-95d2-89ba47848a3a/?raw=true

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Logged on 2016-06-29 09:20 ben_vulpes: i am torn - on one hand, this is a marvelously spiffy box. on the other - what treasures might lie on those hdds?!

10:01

The operation succeeded.

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https://github.com/ethcore/parity/pull/1483/files The dao is still down -12.19 %. Here's a provisional hard fork to make it all better.

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assert_eq!(a.code_hash().hex(), "af231e631776a517ca23125370d542873eca1fb4d613ed9b5d5335a46ae5b7eb"); << l0l!

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http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492655 << gold!11 'permissioned payment'

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Logged on 2016-06-29 12:09 thestringpuller: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0075.mediawiki << The first of many AML/KYC improvements proposed by derps to add to bitcoin.

10:54

'slow paypal'

11:03

[Qntra] Microsoft Withdraws Paid Fitness App, Existing Users To Lose Access - http://qntra.net/2016/06/microsoft-withdraws-paid-fitness-app-existing-users-to-lose-access/

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http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1492472 << to truly round up yesterday's derp list, one has to mention the dejavu "security" team (aptly named, seriously, we've seen this nonsense more than enough times before from the sort of posturing idiots without a wot presence) : akshay aggarwal, "a passionate entrepreneur", adam cecchetti, "ceo", michael eddington, "cto", see https://archive.is/JqJos

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Logged on 2016-06-28 22:19 mircea_popescu: and to round the lolz farm, " The code was open-sourced on March 3rd, so experts had almost two months to find vulnerabilities before it was deployed. It was also audited (at an alleged cost of $250k) by the same firm that audited geth before the frontier launch." (you remember, by the "dejavu" derps, that proud scion of bitcoin security of bitcoinica days. https://archive.is/yZ0ke )

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mircea_popescu: typically this 'audit for hire' crapolade is simply meat-powered 'lint'

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(if that.)

11:20

strangely enough, afaik the only folks who can afford the Real Deal are - usg. but in this case they skimped ? go figure.

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meanwhile, ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see https://archive.is/Se89j

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'Stefano Bertolo is a civil servant advising the Foundation in a strictly personal capacity with the formal permission of his employer. ' << holy shit, srs?

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right in the bio?

11:22

and to not forget the various other usg tools with a more remote, disavowed involvement : gavin andresen, emin gun sirer, and a whole list of various derps who unilaterally claim involvement : amir chetrit, anthony di iorio, gavin woon, joseph lubin etc,

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mircea_popescu: 'Всіх панів до 'дної ями, Буржуїв за буржуями. Будем, будем бить! Будем, будем бить!' (tm) (r) (Павло Тичина)

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asciilifeform the minj chick is the equivalent of the akshay aggarwal doofus. recall the fabulous case of the famous mr chowdhry http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-15#1324477 ? or the fascinating case of mr bharara http://qntra.net/2015/04/judge-preet-bhararas-brinkmanship-endangers-fair-trials/ ? or the betrayer shkreli ?

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Logged on 2015-11-15 00:40 mircea_popescu: http://www.anderson.ucla.edu/faculty/finance/faculty/chowdhry << in case you're wondering what the vermin usg has created looks like.

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asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/88eaf4d7-8a7b-4eb5-9864-7d07c84267d0/?raw=true

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it's an underclass of capons the empire is promoting, the equivalent of the roman libertus.

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ben_vulpes: ah, snore.

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they're usually central/east asians for a good reason : the "government is all things" mentality is not commonly found outside of that shithole. there, it's part of the culture.

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mircea_popescu: i worked with these folks for many years.

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it is precisely as mircea_popescu describes.

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aha. usually they start as http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-28#1491735 and advance from there.

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Logged on 2016-06-28 00:29 asciilifeform: (politruk)

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though not this

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at least in asciilifeform's experience, these folks are entirely disjoint with the 'sexism politruk' etc. business

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strictly technical

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tunnel vision to the max

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eh, the ones that start in engineering / actual work roles usually end up "managing" a project/team, not really selected for chen minjness.

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aha them

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still the same substance. i entertain no distinction.

11:29

so drone wants to be ant rather than bee. whoopee. still drone.

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http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492644 << amusingly, judging by the comment count on the official announcement of the latest blunder ("for best results running our fix for the attack - please don't run it at all!"), even 1k total seems exaggerated. ethereum is dead as disco, will take at least 6 months to re-inflate. prolly more like 18. and i somehow doubt the "many years spanned by experience in experience" people have t

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Logged on 2016-06-29 05:29 mircea_popescu: the stupid consist of cents and dimes, sum to a thousand dollars if that.

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he attention span.

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so we'll be hit by a new raft of faces with bios and empty heads.

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not as if there is any shortage of these.

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http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-27#1491353 << can be had by the 100s for 100s.

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Logged on 2016-06-27 18:17 phf: you get a balmore workshop not because it's a conan thing to do, but because you're insane and need to paint astral vaginas whether or not there's market for it, and you can afford to pay $90/mo (sometimes late) for your apartment and $100/mo (mostly late) for your studio

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mircea_popescu: where ?

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asciilifeform same place you get the young whores. hipster part of town.

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mircea_popescu: free-standing box ? nope

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hm ?

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or is this a 'seekrit evidence', 'your prices are not the real prices!1111' thing

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i think the convo might have spliced. what do you mean ?

11:35

the 'baltimore workshops' thread

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a couple days ago i did experiment, 'what is the cheapest box one can buy title to in bmore, where the roof is intact and inside is not full of vermin and rubble'

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it ended in a very interesting place, btw

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this is not what was contemplated at all, is it now.

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a few dozen folks promising to return call, and 0 did.

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title ? none of these people ever had or wish to ever have title to anything.

11:37

asciilifeform i thought you were getting merged visits and stuff ?

11:37

was ~promised~

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see, difference.

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problem is they might have figured you're not in the demo.

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five tonnes of promise, 0 gram of goodz.

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aha!!!

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was my thought.

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and pet's

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which really, you aren't.

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noshit.jpg

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so then what's all this to do with what we were discussing.

11:38

well real estate is supposedly this thing that you can buy with money

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like so many tonnes of bauxite

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for some values of you and money.

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if the log scatters of discussions of my buys hasn't illuminated the matter yet lol.

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and you can't buy bauxite, either.

11:39

i beg to differ.

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but yes some items are prolly only available by the megatonne.

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(si fab etc.)

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not so : they'll ask where you want it delivered, you'll give a residential address, they'll drop the inquiry.

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no warehouse, no bauxite.

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so i get them in my corp addr.

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sop.

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people who do shipping know where proper loading docks are. you don't give them one of those, you don't trade.

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and forget stuff like bauxite. you can't have as much as a truckload of books delivered by printer.

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i beg to differ.

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but i see the general point.

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can't take delivery of plutonium here, no.

11:41

well, what can i tell you. if he uses proper truck is likely unionized, and if he is, he can't do it even if he wants to.

11:41

but to briefly return to thread, who the hell ARE they for

11:41

they what ?

11:42

lafond's 'big mama' sure as fuck isn't buying 25k houses

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she rents 'section 8'-compatible flat

11:42

ah, the demo ? usually, russian immigrants, old white guys with a history of dealing with criminals for whatever reason (pond shop owner, public defender, etc)

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they buy the stuff, run the rookery, usually make a thin profit.

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/29/misty-snow-and-misty-plowright-two-transgender-can/ <<< If they win, which restroom will they use?

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and how did the banks know that i ain't sufficiently many of these things ?

11:43

asciilifeform think of it as the equivalent of mining for street power blockchain

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asciilifeform because you called them.

11:44

if the question "who is this guy" forms, and the answer is not on a post-it on monitor, you're not in the demo.

11:44

so as i suspected, the front door is a sham

11:44

what front door isn't ever a sham ?

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and exists to satisfy some obscure bureaucratic tickbox

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no, it exists because walled off storefronts don't look good.

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~=

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anyway. if you run one of these you run it because you want a steady supply of whores and thugs, not because you expect roi on the rents.

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and if you end up buying for the wrong reasons on the wrong expectations you'll have to be killed.

11:45

so basically... thank the bank. saved your life, and saved the city a grease spot removal bill.

11:46

banks never get any credit.

11:46

mircea_popescu might have a somewhat distorted picture of bmore. most of these boxes aren't mega-profitable dens of vice, but empty and full of rubble.

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so ?

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what, most hashes don't produce anything either.

11:46

mircea_popescu: dead as disco << hey. hey. disco is kinda cool. daft punk's newest album is straight disco.

11:46

thestringpuller everything comes back, it's the law of the zombie : it pops.

11:47

"A wise man once said that nothing really dies. It just comes back in a new form. Then he died. So, next time you see a lowly salamander, think twice before you step on it; it might be you."

11:48

asciilifeform empty and full of rubble does wonders to keep hopes down (and hope, expectation of future, TRULY is the mind eater for usians. be hopeless, you win.) and officious intermeddlers at a distance sufficient to breed actual people with some frequency.

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[» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] From the scammer files: Anthony Di Iorio. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/29/from-the-scammer-files-anthony-di-iorio/

11:48

this bizarro world where ghetto rats are 'actual people' is an interesting place.

11:49

asciilifeform the rats themselves, no. but actual people, you'll find there rather than in office parking lot, or at nsa building, or working the cubical.

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this may be.

11:50

usually easier to educate a willful person than trying to insuflate will into an educated person.

11:52

at any rate i'm still convinced that the electric fence must have a hole in it somewhere.

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and if not - can carve one.

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well - this is not true generally, thinking about it. but for me, it is way the fuck easier. and i'd expect it'd be the same for everyone who a) is familiar with the environment, and by familiar we mean that, feels at home in the ghetto and is respected in prison ; b) is familiar with the categories of education. which is different from being educated, it requires mastership of the gnosis, that position where you wrote the bo

11:53

ok.

11:53

altogether a tall bar.

11:53

asciilifeform methinks you're using the wrong tools for an ill defined purpose.

11:53

well all i got is the wrong tool

11:53

start at the purpose. what are you trying to do again ?

11:53

0 rent.

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http://btcbase.org/log/2016-01-23#1382256 <<

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Logged on 2016-01-23 03:40 mircea_popescu: the people who don't care if they life or die either live or die. the people who do care - end up paying rent to the ones that live.

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well yes

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there's exactly 1 way to 0 rent.

11:55

so experimented with upping them millimorts

11:55

there isn't a "upping the milimorts". you gotta NOT CARE.

11:55

what, you're gonna hedge it ?

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nuts.

11:56

so isn't it a bit odd that Slock.It is refusing to release the security audit of The DAO? It really looks as if this is straight up MtGox 2.0. Pretty sure someone inside slock.it hacked the DAO and got a huge payoff.

11:56

scammers never die. just return in different forms.

11:57

certainly possible. class action suit ? :D

11:57

ask teh reddit.

11:57

mircea_popescu: the 'not care' thing is a pretense - the folks who properly, full throttle 'not care' , ate nagant.

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not true, no.

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or snackbar.

11:57

or just you know, impregnate guard-strippers in "penitentiary"

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or whatever else. but in any case - collect all rents.

11:58

mircea_popescu's picture is a thermodynamic equilibrium. where we lived in perhaps 17th c.

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where i live is more of a wheat field

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where quite a few unnatural things abound, on account of various technogenic disasters

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it will eventually return to mircea_popescu's model, yes.

11:59

the correct model is the correct model. before you may claim exception you must master the model.

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otherwise you're in the position of a schoolyard lout who seeks to absolve his ungrammatical "poetry" on the grounds that shakespeare.

11:59

did mircea_popescu train his army men on spartan bronze sword and 'testudo' ?

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^ these ~are~ the 'ecologically sustainable' war, no?

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the model is not a matter of random implementation thereof.

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not particularly. there isn't any form that's perpetual. ideas are ; forms change.

12:00

attempting formal immortality is a good definition of ustardism.

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their fundamental idea that "if i don't swear i'll go to heaven" is entirely built of this stupidium

12:09

in practical terms, asciilifeform i'd say you'd be a lot more benefited by somehow retaining the loyalty and services of an old whore that knows how to negotiate rents ; than by trying to become warlord.

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i want mechanism

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not meat.

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then build my pdf ocr trained thing.

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there can never be mechanism here.

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my profession is to mechanize the 'unmechanizable'

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recall the cutting-apart thread

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the doctor's profession is to cure the curable, not the incurable, and not "the sick".

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understanding this first point is what even allows the doctor to be A DOCTOR, ie, professional. as opposed to amateur, ie, quack.

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who gets to define 'curable'

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as long as you expect your profession to be what you say, you're necessarily an amateur, looking at magazine depictions of fthe profession in question

12:12

asciilifeform curable is defined ex post facto.

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ie, if you manage to cure it, it was curable. otherwise, no. but note that the people who invent cures aren't PROPER doctors.

12:14

correct

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oft they manage to imbibe the professional trappings, but oft this also kills them\

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i have no aspirations to proper-doctoritude.

12:15

if you're looking to invent cures, quacks are pretty good at it too.

12:15

so then it's not your profession.

12:15

strictly speaking, mircea_popescu is right.

12:16

in related nyooz, i have Luby Transform working.

12:17

$s fountain code

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6 results for "fountain code", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=fountain%20code

12:21

i got around to sanitizing and interpreting the csv in http://www.fjc.gov/history/home.nsf/page/export.html

12:21

Wilson, Charles born 1954, U.S. Magistrate Judge, U.S. District Court, Middle District of Florida, 1990-1994

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is the only eligible fella missing from my list

12:23

o really ?! wow.

12:23

what about the california guy hanbot found ?

12:23

what was his name

12:24

1 qualifies and is not on list (Clinton Averitte)

12:26

Clinton Averitte born 1948, U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas 1987 - present

12:26

he'd have been 45 in 93

12:38

mircea_popescu: re the bmore thread, it appears to be a continuation of my childhood education, where i saw silver ruble coinz on occasion, but strictly glued to the asphalt with the recently imported cyanoacrylate

12:39

'if it were detachable, the last you passing by would have carried it off'

12:47

mats oh i c! interesting how that came out then.

12:47

asciilifeform how's this relate you mean ?

12:47

related to quackery

12:47

yeah but ?

12:48

nm

12:48

(it was crucial missing piece for gossipd)

12:48

hm ?

12:50

transform arbitrary byte array B into generator of datagrams, where you can collect N in any order, and N weights <= 2B, to re-create B

12:51

satellite tv outfits use a somewhat more efficient - but ~considerably~ more complex - version of luby

12:53

alert reader will realize that this abolishes tcp.

12:54

(tcp, that massive barrel of liquishit, was designed before the discovery of luby code - or any of the subsequent 'fountain' algos)

12:55

ah ah, luby

12:55

(and yes you can do blockchain over shortwave. after learning this algo, and not before)

~ 23 minutes ~

13:18

so it pains me to admit that i just invented the world's first vodka cocktail.

13:19

"take a shot of every vodka in the house, pour in glass, stir. add twist of gin. serve."

13:30

hearn sold at $400 / btc >> http://i.imgur.com/Y2n6gbN.jpeg

13:32

you know the various trollboxes are full of redditards with things to say. what's so special about this one.

13:34

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492856 <<< this greatly interests shinohai

13:34

Logged on 2016-06-29 16:55 asciilifeform: (and yes you can do blockchain over shortwave. after learning this algo, and not before)

13:44

there's two spooks discussing "good old times" couple of tables away from me at some empty diner in maryland

13:46

phf: write something incomprehensible on a napkin and drop it in front of them as you leave

~ 1 hours 38 minutes ~

15:25

[Trilema] Alexa.com or the "measurable web" delusion. - http://trilema.com/2016/alexacom-or-the-measurable-web-delusion/

15:34

there you go again, applying maths and stuff. graph! number! how hard is it to get??

15:34

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/alexacom-or-the-measurable-web-delusion/#comment-117862

15:40

asciilifeform answer't.

15:41

but since the answer's not that readily translatable, let's delve. "x de y" is a very common pattern of early childhoold romanian construction, so much so that it's a byword for infantilism.

15:41

so blog de internet, "blog of internet", there's that.

15:41

and "care este" is a typical form of uneducated ro usage, particularly favoured in the mudplains around bucharest. a sort of pop-philosophy turned verbal automatism.

15:42

so therefore! yes i will! because yes i can!

15:42

phf ikr! i lack the background and experience in management experience, is the problem.

15:44

the fact that you run shell scripts on your data basically disqualifies you from participating in management. you're supposed to leverage, that shell script is $500k initial investment ruby on rails project

15:44

l0l

15:45

oh damn

15:45

'we do what we must, because we can!' (tm) (r) ('portal')

~ 25 minutes ~

16:10

anyway, the only possible conclusion is that ~nobody went to school.

16:12

in somewhat other lulz, http://www.blockalerts.com/all/why-ethereum-needs-dumb-contracts/

16:13

phf: triggered

~ 16 minutes ~

16:30

asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492851 << for any size b ?

16:30

Logged on 2016-06-29 16:50 asciilifeform: transform arbitrary byte array B into generator of datagrams, where you can collect N in any order, and N weights <= 2B, to re-create B

16:30

ie can we finally get rid of the concept of "packet" altogether ?

16:32

and in news along the same lines, i give you the happy fucktoy! http://67.media.tumblr.com/beba5f40e4fd5dffb4ac36af1a322a74/tumblr_o1e33y8C5w1uc36mco1_500.gif

16:35

yummy

16:44

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmI0i9dWYAIPwSy.jpg

16:54

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492883 << very nearly.

16:54

Logged on 2016-06-29 20:30 mircea_popescu: ie can we finally get rid of the concept of "packet" altogether ?

16:55

mircea_popescu: or at least make it as relevant and interesting as ethernet frame is

16:56

(how many people can remember off the top of their head, how much ethernet frame weighs)

~ 21 minutes ~

17:17

mircea_popescu: and yes for whatever size b

17:19

http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/425456/Your-Digital-Fountain << pictoral explanation, for kindergarten children

~ 28 minutes ~

17:47

oooh oooh ooh 26! with 1500 or under payload

17:50

hanbot

so in eulora marketing research i find colorado is a desert for cs --but plenty of "peace studies" majors, and even a "creativity engineering"

17:51

lel piss studies

17:55

hanbot

offered online too, 'cause no doubt it's moar peaceful to do nothing in your pjs than to threaten others with the horrid visage of your presence.

17:59

asciilifeform: what's your luby transform code written in?

18:11

lol peace studies

18:11

$up rdponticelli

18:11

rdponticelli voiced for 30 minutes.

18:12

shinohai lol nb. who made it ?

18:12

asciilifeform win.

18:12

Some buttcoiner lol

18:15

phf: ada.

18:15

*

asciilifeform brb

~ 16 minutes ~

18:31

[Daniel P. Barron] The Power of Women - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/the-power-of-women/

18:31

[Daniel P. Barron] The Last Thing I Needed - http://danielpbarron.com/2016/the-last-thing-i-needed/

18:34

"I found myself with a girl under each arm, a scotch in hand, dead center in the front of a crowd observing the fire dancing show taking place during the big Friday night finale of PorcFest XIII. Having ingested both MDMA and LSD1 earlier that evening, I imagined the scene took on a particularly mystical quality."

18:35

while you're all dicking about, the trishop's doin' all the partying.

18:35

danielpbarron

l0l

18:36

check out buddy christ

18:37

then he wonders what is porcfest about anymore. gee whiz, i dunno.

18:45

in other cargo cunt lulz, http://insidemydirtyfilthymind.tumblr.com/post/113320480712/sex-doll-latex-lucy

18:45

especially the part where he auscultates the pubis.

18:50

$rated shinohai

18:50

pete_dushenski rated shinohai 1 at 3656830618 << retired, not a retard https://youtu.be/DDW4hTWbRYs?t=19m25s

18:51

There are many job opportunities in the US and of A. For men, construction worker, taxi driver or accountant. For woman, prostitute.

18:51

$rate shinohai 2 trb tester+navigator

18:51

Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/1d9bc2ea-3571-4f41-b072-c3a4b9c26baa/

18:51

$v 3D5A596FBCBADA508CAE71C480CC1DCB0BE91708467ACD28C6B3F11717459A81

18:51

pete_dushenski updated rating of shinohai from 1 to 2 << trb tester+navigator

18:51

ty pete_dushenski and congrats on getting that patched ;)

18:53

twas well overdue

18:54

$rated funkenstein_

18:54

pete_dushenski has not rated funkenstein_.

18:54

$rate funkenstein_ 2 trb privkey patch guy

18:54

Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/41cdfdfa-d3ee-4489-bdfc-00016cc3afe4/

18:54

$v 1EF81341390F5BC1FAB1FF9FBF402422AD064B6C89A8525447DD95AF82455016

18:54

pete_dushenski rated funkenstein_ 2 << trb privkey patch guy

19:01

http://www.coinfox.info/news/5817-croatian-crypto-enthusiast-creates-ethereum-based-computer-game <<< It's like Civilization, but with ETHEREUM!!!

19:02

it's like eulora but with no management

19:03

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/28/researchers-have-found-that-war-has-a-remarkable-and-miraculous-effect/ << from the 'let's gear up for another bloodbath' files

19:03

heh

19:03

'violence is interested in you' (tm) (r)

19:06

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y60FUvYArHQ/V3NKW6Xcf0I/AAAAAAAAmlA/7RzX6L0Tvt8tkXkTkpVK1tgizTxfWsrZgCLcB/s1600/IMG_1483.JPG << fdr = 'apostle of lasting peace for all mankind' ? lol how could he be remembered as anything other than a wrecker ? a bank robber ? stalin's villainous left hand ?

19:09

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492869 << lel. 'uber of molotov cocktails', 'apple of shingles vaccines', etc.

19:09

Logged on 2016-06-29 19:41 mircea_popescu: but since the answer's not that readily translatable, let's delve. "x de y" is a very common pattern of early childhoold romanian construction, so much so that it's a byword for infantilism.

19:09

how well the glove fits.

19:10

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492670 << ofc i just had to mentioned that mougayar was never in the logs in last contravex. except now he is..

19:10

Logged on 2016-06-29 15:20 mircea_popescu: meanwhile, ethereum itself is brought to you by ming chan, "an mit alumna", vitalik buterin, which you no doubt remember as an obscure bitcoin punk, jeffrey wilcke, bernd lapp ("bern lapp's background and experience in management experience spawns many years"), stefano bertolo, yessin schiegg, willioam mougayar, thomas greco (omise), and vladislav martynov. see https://archive.is/Se89j

19:11

mention*

19:11

about time I updated ratings as well

19:11

$v B9932C444FE727825F0F9CFF57E1C2BC611249B2FE007D7F6E9070A80F375B12

19:11

trinque updated rating of ben_vulpes from 3 to 4

19:11

$v E460BA438FB164D60C9ADB4FF90FAEE2EC1620BE0A439460298B22B579600AF4

19:11

trinque updated rating of asciilifeform from 2 to 3

19:11

$v BCB85C95E8DA4C1228931F516883AF0608661BEE36568880A6E8F01EC3D33AF4

19:11

trinque rated mircea_popescu 3

19:12

$v C6BAB542E1BE1FFEA4911F70EA78E88EF062399D96BBC76038057C0CDF07BF34

19:12

trinque unrated gabriel_laddel.

19:12

http://emiguel.econ.berkeley.edu/assets/miguel_research/76/Can-War-Foster-Cooperation_for_NBER.pdf << full paper from wapo link. from ' Journal of Economic Perspectives'

19:13

$v 513A27BB2CB2497137BC6F625BF773585DAB79C8954AE40626ECC1861E02D19A

19:13

trinque rated shinohai 2

19:14

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492527 << up there with burning music cds for kids w/o napster or cd burner for $20(!) when cd cost $1

19:14

Logged on 2016-06-29 02:09 mircea_popescu: buy thermotransfer crap in turkey, for like 10 bux a pile of 100, sell them for like ten bucks a pop. "advanced!"

19:14

circa 1999

19:15

pretty much paid for my g3 tower

19:15

$v 06F0495711D93A823310A408CEB7398420EABAC294A8351FABCC398F6B037C54

19:15

trinque rated mod6 2

19:17

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492480 <--> http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-12#1297004

19:17

Logged on 2015-10-12 15:02 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1296856 << china likes us start-up culture and its effects. "never interrupt enemy when making a mistake". traditionally you wouldn't have the gall to pointedly help him, either, but i think mr xi correctly inferred ustardian head too far up ass to even notice.

19:17

Logged on 2016-06-29 00:34 asciilifeform: what was it mircea_popescu said, 'never interrupt an enemy who is in the middle of fellating his nagant'

19:22

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2iYjI265rk << in other "we've made a huge tiny mistake", volkswagen "tdi settlement program" gears up. message from na ceo hinrich woebcken to dealers in video. what a putz. transparent scam to 'sell' new vw units through 'buybacks'.

19:23

"we've made a huge tiny mistake" news*

19:24

What's with this eth/dao surge in price, did butterin float more usd into the mess?

19:25

same fed bucks went into nyse as eth today

19:25

ethexit fears ? what ethexit fears ?

19:25

>.<

19:28

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/social-security-administration/486410/ << my feefees! y u no make phree monzeez eeeezy peeezzy ??!

19:34

should have social media administration also btw.

~ 36 minutes ~

20:11

;;later tell pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492926 << realize that he's gone full bore kako since ?

20:11

Logged on 2016-06-29 22:54 pete_dushenski: $rate funkenstein_ 2 trb privkey patch guy

20:11

The operation succeeded.

20:15

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492935 << '40s was the time when agrarian shitholes had the choice - the ones that had a choice - of conversion to fascist industrial power, or to die.

↖ ↖

20:15

Logged on 2016-06-29 23:06 pete_dushenski: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y60FUvYArHQ/V3NKW6Xcf0I/AAAAAAAAmlA/7RzX6L0Tvt8tkXkTkpVK1tgizTxfWsrZgCLcB/s1600/IMG_1483.JPG << fdr = 'apostle of lasting peace for all mankind' ? lol how could he be remembered as anything other than a wrecker ? a bank robber ? stalin's villainous left hand ?

20:17

;;later tell trinque do we have any means for ~viewing~ ratings? btcalpha is ~dead (kakotronic)

20:17

The operation succeeded.

20:18

gave psql access to phf to that end

20:18

ah so in progress.

20:18

afaik. phf, if not, lemme know and I'll whip something up

20:19

*

shinohai misses btcalpha

20:20

also btw, chars mangled to " in wot are fixed.

20:20

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492482 << l0l! the 'battleships' (now 'galaxies') were for sale a few yrs back, even, when i sold mine

20:20

Logged on 2016-06-29 01:08 phf: "You can buy one or more Urbit stars for $256 - or, TODAY ONLY, only $205."

20:20

'star' is 1/256th of 'galaxy'

20:21

but yes, even then mr mold was quite explicit about making the thing a 'usg-hypoallergenic' altcoin.

20:21

which is when i quit.

20:21

(my 'ship' didn't cost me anything, it was a prize for solving the original puzzle he posted)

~ 28 minutes ~

20:49

anyone happen to know the message rate limit on freenode?

21:04

mod6

quick search doesn't show anything definitive. but you could always check in #freenode, trinque

21:04

yeh I'll do that

~ 24 minutes ~

21:28

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1492974 << this is actually true, as impolitic as it may seem today.

21:28

Logged on 2016-06-30 00:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492935 << '40s was the time when agrarian shitholes had the choice - the ones that had a choice - of conversion to fascist industrial power, or to die.

21:30

trinque iirc it was 1/s

21:34

;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/YA2

21:34

The operation succeeded.

~ 39 minutes ~

22:13

Adventures in Pipe wrench ownership milestone #3 Disassembling everything to the wall, and debating whether or not to wake up reciprocating saw to open wall.

22:14

[Qntra] US Customs Seeks To Control Social Media Imports - http://qntra.net/2016/06/us-customs-seeks-to-control-social-media-imports/

22:17

Did your vinegar bath help fix the yardsale wrench btw?

22:17

shinohai: Amazingly.

22:17

Wrench's bath has been interupted periodically though to work.

22:18

Has nice African finish now

22:19

Nice.

22:19

I used to do the homebrew electrolysis thing to remove rust.

22:20

Seriously though the power of this thing. With the occasional squirt of PB Blaster no fitting has failed to yeild to patience and pipe wrench.

22:21

Wrench also has wood on handle wrapped in electrical tape

22:21

bargain at any price

22:24

I rather like older tools, don't mod the maintenance. Most tools sold in stores locally are garbage.

22:24

*mind

22:30

More seriously though fuck whoever though galvanized iron ought to be used for drains

22:33

What would have been wrong with 1950's folk using nylon drain pipe while they waited for PVC to arrive?

22:45

Oh, that's where danielpbarron was. He rediscovered girls.

22:54

;;bc,stats

22:54

22:57

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1492971 << for all the times i've heard the exclusively alfian term of art 'kakotronic', it's never quite registered. care to explain like i'm 5 ?

22:57

Logged on 2016-06-30 00:11 asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492926 << realize that he's gone full bore kako since ?

22:57

though it's no mega-mystery that funkestein_ has always been an odd duck

22:57

reading his blog for 2 seconds will tell you that much

22:58

i'm also assuming that 'full bore kako' and 'kakotronic' are interchangeable here

22:59

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1492974 << that's definitely a consideration. worked for japan, germany, russia, us at least. maybe not italy and uk as much.

22:59

Logged on 2016-06-30 00:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-29#1492935 << '40s was the time when agrarian shitholes had the choice - the ones that had a choice - of conversion to fascist industrial power, or to die.

23:00

$unrate kakobrekla

23:00

Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/322f3ab0-4ae2-4de4-a5a1-272b3ae6d35c/

23:01

$v 97C4062F0E8DD46BAB1F32DD8EC73EEEF793458BA8FFE03DC91A46828490AA4B

23:01

pete_dushenski unrated kakobrekla.

23:05

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-29/-tesla-solar-wants-to-be-the-apple-store-for-electricity << speaking of the infantile mindset.

23:05

also, it would appear that musk's scammy usg-funded acquisition of one of his failed enterprises by his other failing enterprise missed the logs.

23:06

tesla laid out plans to 'acquire' solarcity for $2.86 bn last week

23:15

Eh, he's just trying to rockefeller the sun

23:15

pete_dushenski didn't work for italy because, in spite of rural shithole, nevertheless delusions of grandeur, and unwarranted impressions that "we've already smoked this joint".

23:15

uk got ruined by bad money, spanish empire style.

23:16

BingoBoingo: 'the verticals and the horizontals'!!1

23:17

mircea_popescu: spanish empire style ? i'm ignorant of this style

23:18

it's a style where you import gold by the galleon only to see rents go up and not much else.

23:19

aha. san fran style

23:19

arguably nyc idem

23:19

money is a terrible curse.

23:20

("if money's a curse, let god strike me down with it! and may i never recover.")

23:20

seriously wtf is wrong with broadway atm. 'hamilton' ? really ??!

23:20

tevye!

23:20

Money's perfectly harmless until it gets spent

23:28

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1493015 << sitting in kako's chan and derping every day re 'mp is sc4mz0r!111' to anyone who'll listen

23:28

Logged on 2016-06-30 02:57 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-30#1492971 << for all the times i've heard the exclusively alfian term of art 'kakotronic', it's never quite registered. care to explain like i'm 5 ?

23:28

see for yerself..

23:29

'hamilton', for those blissfully unaware, is this 'hip' new play written by some mexican queer about founding father alexander hamilton's rise to glory complete with more break dancing and rapped lyrics than you can throw a harlem globetrotter at

23:29

it's won however many tonies

23:30

asciilifeform: right. i guess that pankakke and tat fit in similarly.

23:30

*

asciilifeform is very aware. pet is a fan.

23:31