#trilema | 2016-06-11

amen

00:01

"might be interesting to look at" as a legal problem cracked me up when i first learned of it

00:01

what halfway curious kid hasn't climed all over an excavator

00:03

i famously ~stole~ a 200hp excavator as a 6 yo.

00:04

people collectively lost it and deposed me within 3 minutes, but hey!

00:04

nobody expected 6yo could figure out how to run the thing.

00:06

figure out? were controls marvelously different from controls of other motorized things?

00:07

or 'excavator' -- with treads and arm and bucket?

00:11

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480803 << AC is mission critical for the health of your hard drives

00:11

Logged on 2016-06-11 02:16 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480202 << ac isn't 'mission critical'. if it goes down for 15 minutes or even 5 hours, you might be a little sweaty and grumpy, but your hard drives aren't so flexible, especially if they get caught mid-write with their pants down (but ianae)

00:12

BingoBoingo: dunno about yours, mine are ok to 75c or so

00:12

(fuck spinning rust)

00:13

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480807 << If your generator doesn't have wheels will likely need Electrician to wire/pull permits. Such things can actually be had from big box stores like the Orange Depot

00:13

Logged on 2016-06-11 02:17 pete_dushenski: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480214 << now ~that's~ the business. will defo be looking into these at next place (2017 sometime)

00:13

asciilifeform: why do you dislike the plates so much?

00:13

noisy and slow.

00:13

do i need moar reasons ?

00:14

noisy == 'i can hear it'

00:14

pete_dushenski

BingoBoingo: np. i have several on speed dial.

00:14

sure, but ssd sits, rots.

00:14

everything rots.

00:14

hence raid.

00:14

where hdd...rots slower?

00:14

and cold spares.

00:15

i tread spinning rust as i once treated tape

00:15

backup, to keep in safe.

00:15

storage is a consumable and you...mk.

00:15

*treat

00:16

and fuck seek times measured in ms vs ns.

00:17

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480847 << Garage for your FeNi battery bank right? Generator lives outside or in purpose built enclosure (also outside)

00:17

Logged on 2016-06-11 02:30 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: if i was at that life stage (yes, it's coming!) then i will have one garage for five cars and another of ~equal size~ for back-up power

00:19

<mircea_popescu> apparently, it's "anything that may attract a child", and outright a defense in tresspass! << Swimming pool is canonical "attractive nuissance"

00:20

apparently, there is nothing more attractive than ~empty~ swimming pool, if you ask american jurists.

00:20

(because, i suppose, they were also retarded children??)

00:22

yes

00:36

[Qntra] T Ascendant! - http://qntra.net/2016/06/t-ascendant/

00:38

mod6: congrat!

00:39

;;later tell jurov Sorry for the ambiguity. I mean you could help mod6 with the disposition of his shares.

00:39

The operation succeeded.

00:44

ah cool! Thanks BingoBoingo

00:45

mod6: In the future <p> tags are superfluous and what is this thing where you insert superfluous line breaks?

00:45

But seriously great submission

00:46

oh, alright. i was just looking at some others that had paragraph tags in there. wasn't sure.

00:47

thx though. tried to just keep it short/sweet.

00:48

mod6: Machine ads <p>

00:48

But machine does not mechanically un-80 column text

00:48

[Qntra] uTorrent Forum Hacked - http://qntra.net/2016/06/utorrent-forum-hacked/

00:49

oh, i typically wrap at 80 by hand.

00:50

also, i think it may read a bit better if "proposed" becomes "proposals"

00:50

sorry, i must have overlooked that

00:50

happens

00:51

ty, fxd

00:51

im sortof overly paraniod about 80 col wraps. if i set a command in vim to do it for me, i feel like its not always consistant.

00:51

*shrug*

00:51

yup thanks for updating

00:53

But yes, 80 col wrap is out of spec for qntra's actually adaptive layout.

00:54

ok so for future ref just set no wrap and it should be fine then?

00:54

yeah

00:54

werd

01:02

[» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The golden toilet that had to be. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/10/the-golden-toilet-that-had-to-be/

~ 48 minutes ~

01:50

[Qntra] Gawker Media Files Bankruptcy Papers And Goes On Auction Block - http://qntra.net/2016/06/gawker-media-files-bankruptcy-papers-and-goes-on-auction-block/

~ 53 minutes ~

02:44

;;ticker --market a;;

02:44

Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btce', 'bfx', 'btcavg', 'btcde', 'krk', 'bitmynt', 'btsp'] or 'all'

02:44

;;ticker --market all

02:44

Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 582.52, vol: 3892.67282640 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 568.498, vol: 3811.89564 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 584.6, vol: 20963.73387544 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 589.45272, vol: 31434.93000000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 584.0, vol: 1325.19747169 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 583.13046, vol: 22.79804329 | Volume-weighted last average: 585.938303435

02:44

;;bc,stats

02:44

~ 6 hours 43 minutes ~

09:28

https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/email-address-disclosures-preliminary-report-june-11-2016/16867 <<< Let's encrypt, learn basic sekoority protocol later.

~ 27 minutes ~

09:55

lolwut!

09:56

mod6 so here's a q : suppose a ticket gets allocated to a name. how does tbot know this ? suppose the name completes the ticket. how's tbot know ?

09:56

seems we need two more items right ?

09:59

shinohai let me guess, phantomcircuit works for them ?

10:03

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480951 << o, you hate proper hdds now ? when did that conversion happen ?

10:03

Logged on 2016-06-11 04:12 asciilifeform: (fuck spinning rust)

10:04

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480969 << he can just vent it, like anything else.

10:04

Logged on 2016-06-11 04:17 BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480847 << Garage for your FeNi battery bank right? Generator lives outside or in purpose built enclosure (also outside)

10:06

mircea_popescu: so during development, i decided not to allow assignment for tickets; i wanted to encourage all to look at tickets and possibly propose solutions or changes to even patches submitted (denoted in the notes section??)

10:06

irl, it seems like if a guy isn't assigned a ticket, he rarely looks at it.

10:06

err, meaning, if it is assigned to a person already.

10:07

ok but how do you track progress ? "this is done" "oh yeah ? when ? by whom ?"

10:07

and the idea of "done" can be a different field.

10:08

well, other than that assignment can be informal.

10:08

gg on Qntra mod6

10:08

but i was thinking that it would either be removed from the tree, OR, would simply just have something edited in the subject. like "DONE: Blah Blah ticket for something"

10:08

removed from tree is no good because we lose information this way.

10:08

the latter for traceability

10:08

yeah, i like the idea of just editing the ticket to "DONE"

10:08

also important, suppose i want to split up a ticket later. what should i do, delete and re-enter ?

10:08

mod6 should be done BY X. so i know who to chase.

10:09

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1481012 << when the nice kind fell in price enough and i got a crate ?

10:09

Logged on 2016-06-11 14:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1480951 << o, you hate proper hdds now ? when did that conversion happen ?

10:09

heh mkay.

10:09

fuck ssds.

10:09

i have 4 x 1t in this particular box, for instance (hardware raid)

10:10

mircea_popescu likes massive stacks of cheapo mechanicals ?

10:11

<+mircea_popescu> also important, suppose i want to split up a ticket later. what should i do, delete and re-enter ? << so saythat UCI ticket 7 needs to become two seperate tickets and the original didn't capture what it was supposed to capture; i would just make a new ticket, and then edit the existing one to reform what would be or seem correct.

10:11

oh i can edit them can't i. yeah ok that should work.

10:11

<+mircea_popescu> mod6 should be done BY X. so i know who to chase. << I think if someone wants to put their name on a ticket, ... ok, and they can put a completion date in there.

10:12

we all know how that usually goes.

10:12

how ?

10:12

in scrum people estimate tickets not based on time, but how "large" they think a story is or might be. and they use fib numbers for this -- typically: 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 20

10:13

and anything over a 20 should be certainly broken down into smaller chunks if possible.

10:13

oh, how? people often miss deadlines, especially developers. im just as guilty as anyone.

10:14

ah, but i wasn't talking about deadlines.

10:14

i'm only importing the sane parts of management.

10:15

:]

10:15

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asciilifeform takes off hat

10:15

ok sounds good. thought maybe you were thinking about adding a date field. and btw, any of these things can really be added without too much trouble at all if we really find a dire need for them in the future.

10:16

these separate fields can help with sorting and reporting and all that... especially.

10:16

the point is, if something should be found not to work properly, gotta know who to chase to fix it and more importantly, who to scrutinize in the future. which system allows us to not even bother with quality control - check your shit, and god help you if downstream keeps having to complain.

10:16

but we're not there yet anyway.

10:16

ah

10:16

of course alf doesn't count as downstream, he complains anyway.

10:17

ok. so what I was thinking, at least for the quick/dirty method was that lord of a project would update tickets with peoples' submitted vpatches linked either from the ML or if/when accepted. doesn't only relate to TRB obv.

10:17

there is one problem where any ticket's notes must be shorter than cannonical irc line - trims.

10:17

i ran into it yest.

10:18

(like in the notes section and that would give some traceability to who is doing what and who can get blame)

10:18

oh really?

10:18

lemme fish it out

10:19

hrm. i'll have to see what I can do about that -- not sure if i can make it longer than a canonical irc line, but it should be at least that long

10:19

shinohai: thanks!

10:19

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479664 and following

10:19

Logged on 2016-06-09 23:02 mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI supervisor" "Interacts with UCI worker through interface ; interacts with peers through #trilema standard bot. Maintains list of prices for exposed abilities (in satoshi/Gb/second of storage for instance) and Bitcoin address for payments ; list of trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate. Directs worker to execute accept

10:19

asciilifeform the point being, there's a short space in the notes for ticket ; can't add too much in there, so it prolly can't be "update tickets with vpatches"

10:20

oops. i mean mod6

10:20

ah. ok..

10:21

yeah looks like it didn't get added

10:21

and that may be because it didn't see the closing "

10:21

well yeah.

10:21

and that is a fair point

10:21

and it can't see it if linebroken

10:22

ok, yeah, on the cli version you kind of have tons of space because IRC line isn't a thing.

10:22

now obviously, we could change it to take dpaste input ? the only snag is, i dunno we want LONG tickets anyway.

10:22

if it has to be that long why not break it up.

10:22

Right.

10:22

Ok, very solid points here.

10:22

so this point can be left for later i guess.

10:23

hey, sorry to interrupt this. but one of my buddies is buying a house downthe road, and i gotta to view it here in like 2 minutes. but i'll be back all day after that.

10:23

no rush

10:23

ok. i'll think on this, there's something we can do, im sure.

10:23

thanks for checking it out and letting me know.

10:23

:]

10:24

this gadget sounds very promising imho.

10:25

ye!

10:34

" Assests are officially estimated to be in the 5o million to 100 million United States dollar range while liabilities are estimated to be in the 100 to 500 million United States dollar range" <<< ahahahaha. right, so they got ~3mn worth of crap and 600mn worth of cc debt.

10:34

0.5% efficiency engine.

10:34

could totally buy russia.

10:35

what i want to know is, who's going to take out ~600mn worth of shit these idiots stuck in the head of ignorant imbecile sub-canadians for the past decade ?

10:35

they know how to bitch about "nuclear reactors" so that the costs to decomission one far, far exceed the cost to build one. well, what about "feminism", human rights and democracy ? MUCH much more toxic than radionuclides.

10:36

who the fuck is going to pay the 20 to 50 bn needed to decomission this radioactive waste plant that cost 600mn to build ?

10:44

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1481089 << same martians who will fix ruby

10:44

Logged on 2016-06-11 14:36 mircea_popescu: who the fuck is going to pay the 20 to 50 bn needed to decomission this radioactive waste plant that cost 600mn to build ?

10:44

hunchback - straightens in the grave.

~ 27 minutes ~

11:12

Well guise 21dotco is already the future - 20 satoshi to read temperature: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4njys7/21_an_open_source_library_for_the_machinepayable/d44kqsy

11:12

Or about the amount you'd make mining with one for 3 days

~ 20 minutes ~

11:33

heh those derps srsly.

11:33

then they're going to file for bankruptcy and a well.

11:33

thanks god for pension funds.

11:35

I got Pierre Rochard triggered on twitter as we speak because I dared to call it a scam more or less.

11:43

what's he care

11:45

[Trilema] Gawker Media Group (GMG) vs Arbeitsgemeinschaft Versuchsreaktor (AVR) - http://trilema.com/2016/gawker-media-group-gmg-vs-arbeitsgemeinschaft-versuchsreaktor-avr/

~ 1 hours 30 minutes ~

13:15

^ which article incidentally suggests to me a whole large scale recuperation project, much in the way "nigger" used to mean black person but now simply means government leech.

13:16

specifically "ecology" has historically been a tool of socialists deployed to hinder capitalism, on the flimsy basis of "look how economic activity renders the substrate unfit for later, undefined economic activity".

13:17

exactly in the same vein, ecology should cease to mean "the activity of capitalists ruining the earth", and instead properly mean the activity of socialists ruining humanity.

13:17

this process whereby they spread their poison, getting idiots to believe the sort of stupid shit they sprout is the true ecological damage.

13:18

i'd much rather take a new york or san francisco that had a nuke blown overhead ; than the exact same new york or san francisco that had socialist propaganda blown overhead. the former's much easier to clean up than the latter.

13:25

[Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 1142166369676864495293047 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Dominik Rapp <dominikrapp@zoho.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A76BF4503AE2C55107D537EDABB05BDFB3DB93A3CAF697C1C5073FDD9EEF8F4E

~ 35 minutes ~

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^ eh, mirrorlade

14:01

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/gawker-media-group-gmg-vs-arbeitsgemeinschaft-versuchsreaktor-avr/#comment-117494

~ 39 minutes ~

14:41

;;later tell mod6 'It has been well established that OOM error occurs from bastards not being freed from memory.' << not accurate. bastard tx don't enter the mempool in trb. it is mempool tx that never deallocate...

14:41

The operation succeeded.

~ 16 minutes ~

14:58

thestringpuller

;;calc gribble 10 * 6 * 24

14:58

Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)

~ 1 hours 14 minutes ~

16:12

ah, ok

16:15

%e trb 3 I "Further investigate a solution for mem leak/fragmentation" "An OOM error occurs from mempool tx's that are never deallocated. A well defined and researched plan need to emerge from this investigation."

16:15

%p trb 3

16:15

tb0t

Project: trb, ID: 3, Type: I, Subject: Further investigate a solution for mem leak/fragmentation, Antecedents: , Notes: An OOM error occurs from mempool tx's that are never deallocated. A well defined and researched plan need to emerge from this investigation.

16:15

Does that seem more accurate asciilifeform ?

~ 1 hours 4 minutes ~

17:20

mod6: aha

17:20

oughta somehow incorporate mine and jurov's mega-experiments in the record

17:21

(i am presently not sure how 't' is meant to interact with existing record)

17:33

;;later tell BingoBoingo i randomly encountered http://www.donrearic.com/lotechhitech.html and thought of you

17:33

The operation succeeded.

17:39

asciilifeform: yeah, agreed. have been thinking about how to incorporate all of the findings thus far.

17:39

all you can do at this point is just drop a link into the notes section, but it needs to scale more than that. thinking about it...

17:41

when i come up with a scheme i'll mention it in here.

17:44

asciilifeform: lol linked http://alliancemartialarts.com/spyderco.html

17:48

BingoBoingo: mountain of entertaining 1990s stuff of varying quality, on linked site.

17:48

e.g., http://www.donrearic.com/urbsurvprimer1.html

~ 1 hours 6 minutes ~

18:55

in other news i've decided that if i ever get a cat i'ma name it ophelia

18:55

that way if anyone asks me what the cat's name is i'ma say "it's cat ophelia."

19:01

l0l

19:02

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asciilifeform went to flea markets, came back with dental drill

19:06

asciilifeform you know what happened to the guy who forgot to pay his exorcist bill ?

19:16

hanbot

asciilifeform but how do you get the fleas to keep their mouths open?

19:20

danielpbarron

mircea_popescu, he got re-possesed?

19:21

win!

19:21

lol hanbot you ever seen the scary fucking teeth they have btw ?

19:23

hanbot

nah, that's in the horrors we shan't investigate that we may sleep soundly sorta category

19:28

looks ~like chulhu

19:32

hanbot

nanothulhu?

19:33

i suspect it's how the original drawings were inspired actually.

19:34

the similarity is striking in any case.

19:36

To be fair, they did play a role in wiping out ~60% of Europe's population at one point.

19:37

true

19:45

asciilifeform prolly should just migrate it to t.

19:45

;;ticker --market all

19:46

Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 596.23, vol: 3036.48187973 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 580.0, vol: 3561.06871 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 606.98, vol: 25520.10305091 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 555.0, vol: 0.9 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 609.2952, vol: 29831.75180000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 604.46, vol: 1567.36156384 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 590.7825, vol: 58.20614228 | Volume-weighted last average: 605.964006571

~ 34 minutes ~

20:20

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3636655/Gawker-Media-looks-sue-billionaire-Peter-Thiel-funding-Hulk-Hogan-s-legal-action-s-plunged-debt-report-claims.html <<< the plot thickens?

~ 1 hours 2 minutes ~

21:22

hahaha what.

21:23

you can't sue someone FOR THAT roflmao. what's these shits imagine, that they're in power or something ?

21:25

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mircea_popescu would much prefer a davout -run liquidation. at least it'd establish the item's true value. which, i suspect, is somewhere south of 80 btc.

21:28

I'm flabbergasted too. Last time I checked you could still bankroll whoever you wanted to.

21:29

the derps seriously imagine they're in power.

21:29

"tortious interference" and "racketeering", get a load of that.

21:29

I guess it is an attempt to plug sinking ship with ice cubes.

21:30

more like a "we own this land and fuck you" sorta argument, "it's illegal for you to help the people we don't like".

21:30

except that works when i do it, and who the fuck is gawker.

21:31

'The Wall Street Journal reports Gawker has received a $22million bankruptcy loan to keep the business afloat prior to their sale at auction.'

21:31

^ ~somebody~ is keeping the shitliner afloat

21:31

for some purpose.

21:32

American public must have shit journalism to read. Not like they care for much else besides sensationalism.

21:33

in other lulz, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f38gaRoo1cE

21:33

'The HaoBTC Kangding mine is one the three Bitcoin datacenters that HaoBTC currently operates - as of the time of writing, it generates 33PH hash rate. The miners deployed are Avalon 6 and Bitmain S7s. Here is an unedited walk-through filmed on June 11, 2016.'

21:33

anyway, the "looking into" thing is pure ridiculous. the usual fare of gawker, "throw shit at the wall because anyone reading is too stupid to distinguish their mouth and asshole anyway"

21:33

basically, writing fiction for their demo.

21:34

I thought I was looking at a video of Alabama there for a minute until I saw Chinese writing.

21:35

i wonder if the defeated hillary will sue trump for "allienation of affection" lmao

21:38

https://cryptome.org/2016/06/peter-andreas-thiel.pdf << lulzy. claims thiel cv - and he's a j.d., i had nfi

21:39

incididentally BingoBoingo : does qntra not publish trackbacks or just didn't get ?

21:40

<mircea_popescu> incididentally BingoBoingo : does qntra not publish trackbacks or just didn't get ? << Does not recieve trackbacks in a meaningful way. Entire xml-rpc was excised because fuck Mullenweg

21:41

ah.

21:42

So no trackbacks, no rpc brute force, etc

21:42

im sure it still gets the requests

21:43

Prolly, in same way jaded city dweller "listens" to the ambient noise.

21:44

aha

21:45

request or in way that wall recieves piss

21:48

[Trilema] Meanwhile in Buenos Aires... - http://trilema.com/2016/meanwhile-in-buenos-aires/

21:48

Trackbacks between sites were nice while they lasted, but as noted on Trilema this piece of the shitfrasctructure was fired in anger.

21:50

;;later tell phf Apparently the motor commune still wants for mechanic https://stlouis.craigslist.org/lbg/5630646192.html

21:50

The operation succeeded.

21:51

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1481099 <<< This guy turned out very strange, now proudly boasts "America first" in profile.

21:51

Logged on 2016-06-11 15:43 mircea_popescu: what's he care

21:51

BingoBoingo trilema works ok with trackbacks, but i guess it's one of the few.

21:52

mircea_popescu: But at what cognitive cost? Certainly a greater one than simply removing the entirety of the xml-rpc and turds therein.

21:52

notrly ?

21:53

not like i'm doing anything ; there's the antispam thing that's documented in an article ; also the xml-rpc hardening idem documented. that's about it. haven't touched any of it in years.

21:53

Literally this involves simply deleting a file called "xml-rpc.php" One keystroke for great justice.

21:53

well then i guess more cost.

21:54

upfront though. not really more maintenance afaik.

21:56

Yeah, either way is cheaper than Demoocracy for sure https://stlouis.craigslist.org/evg/5630776322.html

21:57

in other news, dude caught on surveillance tape fucking hens : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z0VErbh1ek

21:57

(the cameras were installed in the first place by old woman wanting to know wtf her hens are so fucking noisy at night)

21:58

BingoBoingo: http://site.baryonyxknife.com/blog/2015/06/22/the-real-douk-douks << quite interesting - re the fella pictured on the ubiquitous french knife.

21:58

mircea_popescu: win.

21:59

gotta love how the other chickenz gather 'round the phucked one

21:59

pecking, pecking.

21:59

l0l, he goes back for seconds!

22:01

Takes "choking your chicken" to a new level.

~ 22 minutes ~

22:24

thestringpuller

http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-12#1481181 << he's a weird d00d. you know kinda guy who moves to NYC for a girl without a job.

22:24

Logged on 2016-06-12 01:51 shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-11#1481099 <<< This guy turned out very strange, now proudly boasts "America first" in profile.

~ 41 minutes ~

23:05

aha.

23:07

some dudes are lucky, fit in chicken.

23:20

so here's what i'd do if i were actually running any of the studios :

23:20