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00:04 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459548 << mircea_popescu, so would a Left to Right orientation be alright then?
00:04 a111 Logged on 2016-04-30 01:13 mircea_popescu: mod6 could graph be vertical rather than horizontal alligned ?
00:04 mircea_popescu i just meant it's 1000x80 now, should be 80x1000
00:06 mod6 ah, hm. alright.
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04:25 j-dawg mircea_popescu: mpex is not updating orderbook again
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09:45 * mircea_popescu checks this out
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10:04 mircea_popescu seems to be ok
10:19 shinohai Morning #trilema http://i.4cdn.org/b/1462887860424.gif
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10:20 mircea_popescu hola shinohai
10:22 shinohai ;;ticker --market all
10:22 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 452.9, vol: 5259.62288531 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 449.999, vol: 6189.53064 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 452.65, vol: 26970.744069 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 452.90789, vol: 35031.30640000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 455.51, vol: 1708.34797017 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 457.34854, vol: 58.13538837 | Volume-weighted last average: 452.638030877
10:23 mircea_popescu http://olegbumbac.blogspot.com.ar/2012/05/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none.html << maybe interesting to the esl crowd that earnestly believes "western decay" is "woman's fault" because they somehow oppress males or are feminazis or whatever : the supposedly independent republic of moldavia exhibits the EXACT opposite atmosphere (like many ex soviet sattelite provinces, actually, orcland). the females are outright worsh
10:23 mircea_popescu ipful of manhood.
10:23 mircea_popescu not even any man specifically, manhood as a transcendental superiority. visible in how seventeen year olds behave in public to a larger degree than the insolence of anglos is visible ; visible throughout.
10:23 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-10#1465428 <<< can't wait for the "plane" version
10:23 a111 Logged on 2016-05-10 14:19 shinohai: Morning #trilema http://i.4cdn.org/b/1462887860424.gif
10:23 shinohai hue
10:23 mircea_popescu nevertheless, moldavia is still a shithole. always was a shithole.
10:24 mircea_popescu all the worship of one gender by the other does in practice is sink that other, moldavian men are some of the most miserable, whiny, incompetent and discapacitated dudes you'll ever see. almost gypsy level (and guess why gypsies - much like niggers btw - are cowardly ? yes it's because female worship, of fucking course).
10:24 mircea_popescu so... no. tis not teh women's fault in any sense.
10:26 mircea_popescu shinohai is that gord ?
10:26 mircea_popescu must be.
10:27 mircea_popescu oh which reminds me : http://66.media.tumblr.com/22a9604c72144dd8488eaf58eb0831ee/tumblr_nb241cgC5Q1riwxk3o1_1280.jpg << face!
10:28 shinohai O.o
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10:49 asciilifeform lel
10:50 mircea_popescu no good ?
10:51 mircea_popescu fine, ok. http://i.imgur.com/3wpWQSs.jpg
10:52 asciilifeform mno.
10:52 mircea_popescu tough crowd.
10:52 asciilifeform that face - no theorems.
10:52 mircea_popescu you can tell by the face ?
10:53 deedbot [Trilema] Vasile, c'est tout. - http://trilema.com/2016/vasile-cest-tout/
11:04 mircea_popescu #face http://urod.ru/uploads/102015/polv_01.jpg
11:07 shinohai Quick question twiw: Does deedbot operate on the same L1 & L2 scheme as assbot did?
11:07 mircea_popescu afaik
11:08 shinohai k, thanks
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11:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lulzy, https://www.pgpru.com/forum/prakticheskajabezopasnostj/chegostoitichegonestoitbojatjsjaapparatnyebekdoryiproprietarnyeproshivki?show_comments=1&p=6#Comment73399 << early sanity
11:26 asciilifeform (whole forum is like this. found it via phuctor reflogz)
11:28 mircea_popescu seems yoi found some friends.
11:29 asciilifeform not quite, mostly folks crying into their drinks
11:29 asciilifeform but crying in the right direction!111
11:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: another minor l0l, https://www.pgpru.com/forum/rabotasgnupg/gpg4wincherezanusrasshifrovyvaetkirillicu << all the orcish font support is for naught, gpg4win craps out rubbish when used with cyrillic
11:43 mircea_popescu it's not supposed to work in THAT sense. fuck the orcs, who cares. it's supposed to work in THIS other sense.
11:43 mircea_popescu still fucking overflowing, to this day, 15 years later.
11:45 asciilifeform yah well in that sense worx great, a++++
11:53 trinque shinohai: having a problem?
11:53 asciilifeform https://www.pgpru.com/servisy/packetdump << they have a pgp packet dumper, but it seems to barf on anything i give it
11:53 trinque oh you're prolly working on wiki stuff
11:56 shinohai yeah working on wiki stuff trinque ... trying to learn clwiki formatting, of which there seems to be little
11:57 shinohai For now just going to strip all the old stuff to basic parts and go from there I guess.
11:57 trinque cool
12:01 shinohai trinque: am I missing something, or I cannot format like this: http://i.imgur.com/7s2ZFyD.png?1
12:07 shinohai Good question: http://www.wsj.com/articles/what-is-preet-bharara-afraid-of-1462835952
12:07 deedbot [Trilema] Double Indemnity - http://trilema.com/2016/double-indemnity/
12:10 mircea_popescu me.
12:12 asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/double-indemnity/#comment-117231
12:18 mircea_popescu :p
12:28 trinque shinohai: I can add css to whichever tags you need styled
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13:37 asciilifeform l0l, phuctor ddos apparently
13:40 shinohai I've seen it all now: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3580492/South-Africa-launches-breaking-wind-competition-youths-heroin.html
13:40 shinohai MAy as well shutter the DEA now
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14:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ecc lulz: https://www.pgpru.com/novosti/2012/mojapoezdkavdwavepotustoronumjasnogosendvicha?show_comments=1&p=6#Comment93883
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14:09 asciilifeform quite possibly, these folx read the logz.
14:09 asciilifeform http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1018.pdf << related.
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14:10 asciilifeform http://dpaste.com/2H60PT0.txt << plaintxt
14:13 asciilifeform 'The first time the NSA publicly and decisively gave support to ECC occurred at a meeting of the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) in December 1995. The backers of RSA at the meeting were casting doubt on the safety of ECC-based protocols; in the mid-1990s a page called “ECC Central” on the RSA website carried statements by leading personalities in cryptography that characterized ECC
14:13 asciilifeform as untested and based on esoteric mathematics. '
14:13 asciilifeform 'The nontechnical industry representatives on the ANSI committee were impressed by the RSA argument. As the heated debate continued, the NSA representative left to make a phone call. When he returned, he announced that he was authorized to state that the NSA believed that ECC had sufficient security to be used for secure communications among all U.S. government agencies, including the Federal Reserv
14:13 asciilifeform e. People were stunned. In those days the NSA representatives at standards meetings would sit quietly and hardly say a word. No one had expected such a direct and unambiguous statement from the NSA. The ECC standards were approved.'
14:13 asciilifeform ^ mega-l0l! ^
14:19 asciilifeform pure gold:
14:19 asciilifeform 'To ensure that the NSA-generated elliptic curves did not belong to a very
14:19 asciilifeform special class of curves, a simple procedure was devised whereby the coeffi-
14:19 asciilifeform cients of an elliptic curve were derived by passing a seed through the hash
14:19 asciilifeform function SHA-1. Given the seed and its associated elliptic curve, anyone
14:19 asciilifeform could check that the curve had been generated from the seed. Since SHA-1
14:19 asciilifeform is (still) considered to be a one-way function, it would be infeasible for anyone
14:19 asciilifeform to first select a curve with very special properties, and then find a seed
14:19 asciilifeform which yields that curve.'
14:20 asciilifeform FUCK invisible linefeed garbage
14:20 asciilifeform anyway - whole thing eminently worth reading.
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14:45 asciilifeform http://people.item.ntnu.no/~danilog/Hash/Non-random-behaviour-narrow-pipe-designs-03.pdf << interesting re 'whitening' etc. (tldr: no known hash behaves like 'random oracle', demonstrably)
14:50 deedbot [Qntra] What Is Preet Bharara Afraid Of? - http://qntra.net/2016/05/what-is-preet-bharara-afraid-of/
15:00 asciilifeform http://valerieaurora.org/hash.html << moar lulz.
15:04 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
15:05 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 453.0, vol: 4838.28317451 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 448.841, vol: 5677.33624 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 453.18, vol: 23104.63533724 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 451.628008, vol: 29502.97510000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 454.601, vol: 983.52914552 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 460.023413, vol: 70.41158083 | Volume-weighted last average: 452.0984038
15:06 BingoBoingo http://notyourgoodfatty.com/court-says-obesity-is-not-a-disability/
15:06 shinohai bwahahhaaaa nice article BingoBoingo
15:07 BingoBoingo WHich one?
15:07 shinohai "What is Preet Bharara afraid of?"
15:07 shinohai Kinda succinct, but good
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16:06 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
16:06 gribble Current Blocks: 411202 | Current Difficulty: 1.7865925777252728E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 411263 | Next Difficulty In: 61 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 9 hours, 26 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
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16:27 danielpbarron BingoBoingo, I don't mind that you add words to my articles, especially when new info comes out after i have submitted it (like a third bet) but please don't add in a way that breaks the flow. The point I made in regard to the ethereum bet is hard to follow with the trump bet listed right before it
16:29 danielpbarron and yes i probably could have mentioned that znort is in WoT but znort never talks here, so it's a toss up. Chat more, get more mentions. Don't chat, get forgotten
16:35 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Sorry, I'll try to fix the flow
16:36 BingoBoingo danielpbarron: how is http://qntra.net/2016/05/a-form-of-bitbet-online-again/
16:39 danielpbarron not what i woulda done but it worx
16:51 BingoBoingo ty
16:52 punkman https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11666857
16:54 mircea_popescu da fuck do these people do, 17yo highschool gossip ?
16:55 punkman mhmm
16:55 mircea_popescu worthless bullshit, i want to know what "company" this is to short the shit off it.
16:56 mircea_popescu also i wanna know what the fuck irl name "milfseriously" has, just in case he shows up at any social event and isn't there as a toilet slave.
16:57 mircea_popescu asciilifeform if it was it didn't last long.
16:57 mircea_popescu still, getting 30-50/hour submissions is pretty good imo.
16:59 mircea_popescu asciilifeform amusingly, the decade intervening has meanwhile totally fucked them. they're moving off ecc now in a hurry, and their dilemma is "go back to rsa or beg alf for c-s."
16:59 asciilifeform lel
16:59 mircea_popescu which is pretty lulzy considering tmsr is supposed to be this obscure thing rather than the leading governmental authority of the world./
16:59 asciilifeform my current understanding is that it is nearly certain that a summer intern has been sent to write a usg c-s.
17:00 mircea_popescu aha. should be funny once his dr wright implementation comes to pieces./
17:00 mircea_popescu an event which, of course, nobody could have predicted.
17:00 mircea_popescu also the above lines didn't happen.
17:01 asciilifeform naturally.
17:01 asciilifeform re: the hn thread and 'her-assment' - folks living under usg are quite like children under drunkard father - they learn to 'build fences' (orthodox jew concept) around 'what might upset him'
17:02 asciilifeform thus it is quite ordinary for folks who so much as fall under suspicion to be sacked
17:02 mircea_popescu lol aheeb the horsy will be fucking famous before he dies huh,
17:03 asciilifeform waiwut
17:03 punkman so should the chick tell her boss new guy is harassment lawsuit waiting to happen?
17:03 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo danielpbarron has a point ; editing people's articles is a very iffy thing, best to discuss it with them prior to publication if it's anything more than a word or such.
17:04 mircea_popescu punkman the chick was the adult at the table, from what can be seen. the "boss" is a pimply imbecile who has no business in business.
17:07 asciilifeform thing is, the boss in the link is not a complete idiot, so much as the mere fact of a 'harassment' suit can sink a small firm.
17:07 mircea_popescu pfff.
17:08 mircea_popescu such a thing as a "small firm" may not exist in an environment where such a thingas "harassment" exists.
17:08 mircea_popescu move.
17:09 asciilifeform brilliant, never-before thought of pill !111111
17:09 asciilifeform why not 'breathe fire at the enemy'
17:09 mircea_popescu it's not a pill, even. "how can i lose weight while eating 5-6k calories a day ???" "you can't. stop eating." "hurr durr."
17:09 mircea_popescu srsly nao.
17:09 asciilifeform 'let them eat cake' (tm) (r)
17:10 mircea_popescu there isn't a pill for everything.
17:11 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo danielpbarron has a point ; editing people's articles is a very iffy thing, best to discuss it with them prior to publication if it's anything more than a word or such. << ok
17:12 mircea_popescu i suppose you can just do it in an emergency sort of set-up, but really it's like pinching asses in the subway. best to be kept at a minimum.
17:22 j-dawg i had similar issue with bingo and he promised to consult his redactions, but he likes to forget :D
17:24 j-dawg or, better to say, he likes to get carried away
17:25 shinohai Editors gonna edit.
17:40 BingoBoingo I am not always as rememberful as I would like to be.
17:48 asciilifeform unrelatedly, http://cse.iitkgp.ac.in/Events/IndoCrypt08/Dec-15-2008/images/html/dscf5311.html
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18:59 mircea_popescu eh things occur.
19:01 mircea_popescu asciilifeform them nametag shits...
19:02 mircea_popescu ftr t lange is pretty respectable, knitting or no knitting. http://www.hyperelliptic.org/tanja/
19:03 mircea_popescu see the unclonable functions project etc.
19:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha
19:11 asciilifeform iirc she is bernstein's coauthor in pretty much everything, also.
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19:41 mircea_popescu guess so
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21:13 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gnupg/users/75955?page=last << phuctor lulz
21:13 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:14 asciilifeform rjh is one of the mirrored-phuctored folk btw.
21:14 asciilifeform so nobody's gonna be signing anything with that key.
21:19 asciilifeform in other nyooz,
21:19 asciilifeform my scintillator fibre is here.
21:19 asciilifeform brb.
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22:52 mod6 i thought you said it was like impossible to get?
22:57 BingoBoingo Ebay's a hell of a drug
22:59 trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-socialmedia-idUSKCN0Y12EU << congress staying on top of the important problems of the day.
23:10 asciilifeform mod6: it turned up.
23:10 mod6 nice!
23:11 asciilifeform some fella's selling miles of it. usg surplus.
23:13 mod6 hey hey
23:13 mod6 cool
23:18 mircea_popescu ahhh coq au vin ftw.
23:21 mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda weird reaction from the derps. it's almost as if they welcome teh ownage.
23:21 asciilifeform 'spread wide & think of england!!11'
23:23 mircea_popescu in related news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/2a95eba78bb25dbbaf6a0bb4c2575d7b/tumblr_nij5hhRiOz1r59rt8o1_1280.jpg why are teenage ankles so obviously teenage ?
23:27 BingoBoingo less time with rope?
23:28 mircea_popescu possibly less time in shoes.
23:29 * asciilifeform realized that the perfect rng is in fact... a spinthariscope.
23:29 asciilifeform not geiger, not fiber, but ye olde motherfucking spinthariscope.
23:29 mircea_popescu why ?
23:30 asciilifeform no hv inverter (unlike geiger);
23:30 mircea_popescu it wears out just as much as geiger
23:30 asciilifeform nope.
23:30 asciilifeform no gas.
23:30 mircea_popescu well, coating\
23:30 asciilifeform dun wear out.
23:30 asciilifeform 100 y.o. ones still work.
23:30 mircea_popescu difference between "still works" and "still same". 100 yo lightbulbs still work, but they don't have the same resistance they had 100 years ago
23:31 asciilifeform use something with reasonably absurbly long half life
23:32 asciilifeform e.g., am-241.
23:32 mircea_popescu i guess they use americium now yeah
23:32 mircea_popescu still, not obvious why it'd be better than geiger, fiber or electronic noise.
23:32 asciilifeform and at any rate, for a reasonably low bit rate, can use backgroumd.
23:33 asciilifeform because ZnS is neither rare nor difficult to make.
23:33 asciilifeform geiger sucks arse !
23:33 asciilifeform needs hv
23:33 asciilifeform inverter.
23:33 asciilifeform which introduces own periodicity
23:33 mircea_popescu heh. and if one day a comet with a heart of radium goes by, we'll know in the keys.
23:33 asciilifeform (and geiger has life measured in 100s hrs)
23:34 mircea_popescu micro, rather than macro is the correct direction here.\
23:34 mircea_popescu you don't want to tie-in to momentuous, galactic events
23:35 asciilifeform those don't spit out alpha anyway.
23:35 asciilifeform (mean free path of ~1cm at stp)
23:36 asciilifeform 50g of ZnS crystal from cn, incidentally, is ~$10.
23:37 asciilifeform (standard old school b&w crt phosophour)
23:38 mircea_popescu not hard to make either.\
23:38 asciilifeform aha.
23:39 asciilifeform http://www.qsl.net/k0ff/BicronZnS-AgMaterialSheet/Image.JPG
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