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00:00 trinque shinohai: if you do want to try your hand at lisp, you're more than welcome to try your hand at extending the wiki usefully
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00:00 mircea_popescu wait, the wiki is written in lisp ?!
00:01 trinque sho nuff
00:01 mircea_popescu win.
00:01 mircea_popescu the only problem with lisp though
00:01 mircea_popescu is that there are no real world applications that make use of it.
00:02 mircea_popescu o btw trinque you were all into big data and sql and shit, how's http://trilema.com/2016/multivariate-calculus-for-experts/ look to you ?
00:02 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i looked at it.
00:03 asciilifeform seems to resolve to the 'knapsack problem.'
00:03 trinque lol yeah, teh republic's trying to bring back teh lisp!
00:03 * trinque reads
00:03 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it ALSO is the absolute matrix-mother of ALL usg-tronic "intellectual propety"
00:03 asciilifeform howsthat
00:03 mircea_popescu think for a moment, what is the nsa supposedly doing ? taking THAT EXACT db and establishing "who's a terrorist".
00:04 mircea_popescu what's google's/facebook's/etc supposed stock in trade ? "oh, we took that EXACT db and... established prices of things"
00:04 mircea_popescu etc. you can not in fact find a "blue chip" as the notion has been tarnished today that does anything else as its business than... that.
00:04 asciilifeform google gosplan !111111111
00:04 mircea_popescu and most of the ustardian cults are ALSO predicated on some mystical voodoo solution to it, also.
00:05 mircea_popescu from "liberal" to "lesswrong" and back again. the feminists wish REALLY HARD for some primitives they found to be supported by it. etc.
00:05 asciilifeform anyway gosplan does not and does not even seriously pretend to work by solving the motherfukcing equation, but instead it cuts the princesses' feet to fit the shoes when necessary.
00:05 asciilifeform under that set of constraints, 'worx1!11111111!'
00:06 mircea_popescu except this requirement is in there! "provide justification".
00:06 mircea_popescu and well... not trivial, either.
00:06 mircea_popescu for that matter, the fed is spending all the resources of pretty much everyone in finance speaking english today to try and come out with a "passible solution" to mp's problem, that they doublespeak as "market stability" and so on and so forth.
00:07 mircea_popescu the laws get ever longer, so-and-so's rule, criteria and blabla, but the solution comes no closer.
00:07 * trinque will try to fit this in head after a cycle in his regeneration pod
00:07 mircea_popescu enjoy.
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01:20 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
01:21 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 456.58, vol: 1554.57518222 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 452.661, vol: 3356.37957 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 458.17, vol: 6664.73925998 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 445.0, vol: 2.24548227 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 454.841968, vol: 17044.27550000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 457.76, vol: 617.26018576 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 456.4984, vol: 18.74667532 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
01:22 BingoBoingo ;;more
01:22 gribble 455.504084386
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08:35 mircea_popescu hhhola!
08:38 mircea_popescu $up hax404
08:38 deedbot hax404 voiced for 30 minutes.
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09:12 danielpbarron $v 40C1444EF15BAAD33D8DC6E2C850B70C54AB16444CD49B154FED054ADD2B21D4
09:12 deedbot danielpbarron rated zakorus123 1 << Euloran who bought some threads from me
09:12 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465028 <<< thx trinque I did register account yesterday and am poring over old wiki materials this morning.
09:12 a111 Logged on 2016-05-09 04:00 trinque: shinohai: if you do want to try your hand at lisp, you're more than welcome to try your hand at extending the wiki usefully
09:17 mircea_popescu win.
09:25 BingoBoingo $up adlai
09:25 deedbot adlai voiced for 30 minutes.
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09:50 mircea_popescu and in other boobs, http://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsllt0hfEF1r33v5zo1_1280.jpg
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11:02 mircea_popescu and in other news, "Dans leurs regards indifférents flottait la quiétude de passions journellement assouvies ; et, à travers leurs manières douces, perçait cette brutalité particulière que communique la domination de choses à demi faciles, dans lesquelles la force s'exerce et où la vanité s'amuse, le maniement des chevaux de race et la société des femmes perdues."
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11:20 shinohai http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/north-carolina-hb2-justice-department-deadline/ <<< Preet: Why can't everyone just shit together in the street like back home in India?
11:22 asciilifeform l0l they've banned mircea_popescu !
11:23 asciilifeform (who iirc has never set foot in a mens' room, out of pr1nc1pl3)
11:24 asciilifeform savages.
11:26 mircea_popescu wait whi ?
11:27 asciilifeform 'North Carolina has filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Justice Department to defend House Bill 2, a law that bans individuals from using public bathrooms that do not correspond with their biological sex, according to a court document.'
11:28 mircea_popescu lol.
11:29 mircea_popescu it's not that never by any means.
11:29 mircea_popescu but i also didn't pretend i'm a woman or anything. just, you know, these sorts of rules, psshh. they're lulzy because the pretense is always one way (protect teh modesty of teh ladies, o noes, as if), whereas the actual cause is exactly opposite (dudes can't fucking piss with women there).
11:31 asciilifeform what'dbe wrong with locking stalls in 1 shit hall for everybody.
11:32 mircea_popescu that you can't pee with a hard-on.
11:32 asciilifeform hm point
11:32 mircea_popescu and you get hard-ons for all sorts of dumb reasons such as chick's perfume.
11:33 mircea_popescu AND if you get a hardon while needing to pee, which is why you're there, it'll be a bitch to get yourself out of it as pressure is a signal.
11:33 mircea_popescu little bit of fuck you from Mz Anatomy there.
11:34 asciilifeform point!!
11:35 mircea_popescu in other lulz, in egypt trains (not the "expensive" stuff where you get the whole compartment and there's a gay waiter in livery to attend to your every whim, the common cattle hauling things) are also gender segregated. and we (ie, me and chet) climbed in the girl one, which amused teh women no end and really bothered the dudes.
11:37 mircea_popescu the REASON it bothered the dudes is that now they couldn't tell themselves that it's ok they're not running amok among the smiling she-herd, grabing all the tits, because "you can't get in there". manifestly you can, and a foreigned=loser to boot, so they can^2, and what fucking difference does it make HE doesn't go japanese-subway-porn-berserk, that's because he's a loser=foreigner, nevermind that part!
11:37 mircea_popescu people's heads, you know. their very own, private and most deserved punishment.
11:51 asciilifeform speaking of my punishment, i finally had the mega-satisfaction of resigning from $rupturefarm
11:51 danielpbarron congrats!
11:51 asciilifeform just signed 5min ago.
11:55 mircea_popescu cheers.
11:58 asciilifeform $up fromphuctor
11:58 deedbot fromphuctor voiced for 30 minutes.
11:58 asciilifeform eh
12:09 mircea_popescu lmao need to carry the $up gun on the hip
12:09 mircea_popescu like old style west.
12:10 asciilifeform speaking of,
12:11 asciilifeform soooomebody, it seems, is still feeding phuctor
12:11 asciilifeform a teaspoon-full at a time
12:11 mircea_popescu i imagine people interested, neh ?
12:11 asciilifeform aha.
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12:27 danielpbarron https://bitbet.us/bet/1255/thedao-to-be-the-largest-crowdsale-ever/ << can anyone see this page? it works on my iPhone in chrome but it doesn't work in chromium on gentoo..
12:28 danielpbarron on a very related note, bitbet appears to be back
12:28 mircea_popescu o hey it's back ?
12:28 danielpbarron was trying to write a qntra on it, but ran into this serving-different-content-to-different-browsers weirdness
12:29 mircea_popescu nope, connection reset.
12:29 danielpbarron one sec, taking screenshots on my phone
12:29 mircea_popescu https too eh ?
12:31 asciilifeform l0l! nsacoin at last !
12:31 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/1GFYZ4G << badly set-up ssl
12:34 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: or on the contrary
12:34 asciilifeform well-setup up usgssl.
12:34 asciilifeform for lol-enforcement!111 purporses.
12:34 mircea_popescu i guess.
12:34 asciilifeform as somebody said to a famous aircraft designer: 'FLY in it?! i won't WALK under it'
12:35 mircea_popescu and in other Carmen the Beercunt news, http://66.media.tumblr.com/8cf392f56702d6dee3f8bd4cb58652ad/tumblr_mnegum7DcF1rhlfrbo1_1280.jpg
12:35 asciilifeform BET in it?! i dun recommend LOADING it
12:39 asciilifeform https://bitbet.us/faq/#liveagain << related.
12:42 danielpbarron yeah no that's not the new one
12:42 danielpbarron the new one has a LOT of bold red text
12:42 mircea_popescu well archive is doesn't see it either, that's the extent of my patience.
12:45 asciilifeform mircea_popescu et al: http://dpaste.com/2BV2PW0.txt
12:47 mircea_popescu "One thing to be aware of: the bets that were cancelled because of the transition are still visible on the site and have all been resolved as "NO". " uh... ok ?
12:48 mircea_popescu "While this may feel inconsistent (the proper resolution should be "CANCELED & REFUNDED"), there is a limitation in the current design of the system that prevents us from doing anything else." << this is an odd claim.
12:49 mircea_popescu i suppose the admin interface as-was does not provide a ready way to cancel bets that had already closed at the whatever arbitrary timepoint. but still, database is database, what.
12:50 danielpbarron http://danielpbarron.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/new_bitbet.png
12:50 mircea_popescu keeping the "try to chisel, lose your capital" rule it seems. oh and all the scandal and "mp is a scammer" that came from that one, golly.
12:51 mircea_popescu turns out the veterinarian can not actually direct his practice by the bellows of the pack animal. who knew!
12:52 mircea_popescu danielpbarron lol.
12:52 asciilifeform chisel?
12:53 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a term of art.
12:53 danielpbarron and i won't bother with the faq since apparently ascii got a text version of it
12:53 mircea_popescu $google "i used a little information for a chisel, that's all"
12:53 deedbot No results.
12:53 mircea_popescu eh gtfo ?
12:54 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there's an underworld of hustlers and small time, nonviolent criminals, with its own cant. to chisel is to use an informational asymmetry for a small, distributed gain.
12:54 asciilifeform arbitrage ?
12:54 mircea_popescu the bank fraud where a coupla clerks reprogrammed the system to have all cent fractions added up to their account is a very typical chisel.
12:54 asciilifeform ah, salami
12:54 mircea_popescu no, arbitrage aha.
12:54 mircea_popescu arbitrage is to be an economic engine.
13:01 mircea_popescu Could I become an affiliate? Not at this time, although this may change in the future. Could I become a partner? Not at this time. Can I advertise on BitBet? Not at this time, although this may change in the future.
13:01 mircea_popescu in fairness, the "community" had two years to run off with one of the more generous aff systems in history, twiddled its thumbs.
13:09 trinque that "google custom search api" thing does actually hand back zero results for certain queries it seemingly shouldn't
13:10 asciilifeform happy v-day folx.
13:10 asciilifeform incidentally, i just recently found out about the junkers ju390 in buenos aires 1945 thing.
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13:28 danielpbarron ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://danielpbarron.com/qntra/bitbet-is-live-again.asc.txt
13:28 gribble The operation succeeded.
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13:45 asciilifeform from the dept of lulz:
13:45 asciilifeform 'They suggest that when people fly in economy class, their position in the social hierarchy becomes glaringly obvious. This fact is especially so if they have to walk through the first class section of the plane to get to their assigned space in a cramped hell.'
13:45 asciilifeform ( http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/05/air-rage-is-more-common-when-economy-class-passengers-see-first-class )
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14:08 j-dawg lol "they suspected these explanations are missing something."
14:08 j-dawg i won't ever forget my first time on transatlantic economy flight. couldn't sleep due to vibrations, terminally bored and pretty close to rage even without thoughts about first class
14:16 mircea_popescu somehow the very concept of economy class flight is dubious.
14:17 mircea_popescu either you're good enough to fly or you aren't, wtf is this subway in the air.
14:17 asciilifeform real demigodz buy own 747!111111
14:18 mircea_popescu anyway. i can readily see usg womanchild losing her shit because it's the first time in her life that he encounters the implacable "sit down and shut up, worm"
14:18 mircea_popescu (in the above context, "her" is a genderless pronoun used to denote stupidity)
14:20 asciilifeform for every mircea_popescu paying in actual dough for firstclass, there's a platoon of apparatchiks, of various usgtronic flavours, who 'expense'.
14:20 mircea_popescu large part of the problem.
14:20 asciilifeform so my reaction to parading through firstclass is similar to seeing 'zil' limousine, or its usg equiv.
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14:35 j-dawg phf: btcbase.org doesn't track V itself or rotor?
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14:59 ben_vulpes congrats asciilifeform
14:59 asciilifeform ty ben_vulpes
15:01 phf j-dawg: btcbase secretly tracks btcbase itself, since i'm experimenting with (load-v "foo.vpatch") type thing, but that's not public. i don't think there's a proper vtronic chain of V or rotor available, so unless i generate those myself there's nothing i can track
15:02 phf i think i saw mod6 vpatch's for v.pl, but afaik there's no genesis for those, etc.
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15:33 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://phrack.org/issues/69/2.html#article << lulzy
15:33 gribble The operation succeeded.
15:35 mircea_popescu myeah.
15:36 mircea_popescu asciilifeform oh yeah, dumbass bbs people and their "nick" notions.
15:36 mircea_popescu i had forgotten.
15:36 asciilifeform much nostalgia in one box, tho.
15:37 mircea_popescu demigods know not nostalgia!
15:37 asciilifeform humans - do.
15:37 mircea_popescu looky, he uses the same hardware you use :D
15:39 asciilifeform from other articles in same issue,
15:39 asciilifeform 'Then, in Dec 2011, Asheesh, a Debian dev particularly fond of his key ID, found a way to create a new RSA 4096 key with that ID (and a bug in GnuPG handling of duplicate keys) [2]. He highlighted the disruptive potential of that and decided not to release the code. Bummer.
15:39 asciilifeform '
15:40 j-dawg phf: v genesis does exist: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000153.html
15:41 asciilifeform j-dawg: aha, that's mine
15:43 mircea_popescu w99w99... check it out... soon enough all the ancient scene is going to pop back up, myth and all.
15:43 asciilifeform in museum.
15:43 asciilifeform it cannot exist today just like the prehistoric dragonflies cannot
15:43 asciilifeform wrong gases in atmosphere...
15:45 mircea_popescu heh. i just meant the names.
15:46 asciilifeform l0lk
15:46 mircea_popescu (incidentally, there was at least one example of well known, functional, wot-only system online. teh scene.)
15:47 asciilifeform countless little worlds.
15:47 mircea_popescu probably the reason copyrasts didn't get away with much over 30 years of trying. no, it wasn't reddit, no "raising awareness" did jack.
15:47 asciilifeform any two kidz passing floppies back'n'forth were a world.
15:48 asciilifeform but it also helped that enemy could not even for a millisecond masquerade as a real person.
15:48 mircea_popescu quite like gossipd works yes
15:48 asciilifeform aha.
15:48 asciilifeform in america they called it 'sneakernet'
15:49 phf biggest japan pirate network was an invite only wot based around harddrive exchange, with the "if your friend's a rat, you're a rat" policy
15:49 mircea_popescu note also that the groups were both distinct from the topsites let alone couriers, and also had their own artgroups!
15:50 asciilifeform who remembers the wonderful crack 'demos' !
15:50 asciilifeform complete with music
15:50 mircea_popescu The Humble Guys!
15:50 asciilifeform Adaz!
15:50 mircea_popescu not accolade, thc convinced me of the possibility of computers
15:50 davout "here, have a quake 2 in 287 bytes"
15:50 mircea_popescu olo
15:51 asciilifeform Razor!
15:51 mircea_popescu a yes also
15:51 phf razor was the last one to go
15:51 mircea_popescu fuyck it's online
15:51 mircea_popescu phf also latecomer iirc
15:51 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J2qWPwUL9U
15:51 asciilifeform i personally cracked a very tough cookie of a commercial proggy a few yrs back, and had... no place to put.
15:53 mircea_popescu (incidentally - to dragon's eyes we work as if we were there. recall - you ftp'd to site then had it read into irc ?)
15:53 j-dawg mod6: just curious - why you have not published v patches in v?
15:54 j-dawg v.pl i mean
15:55 phf j-dawg: i think there's a general "fear" of publishing a dodgy vpatch so everyone's hedging. i think that's one of the reasons for asciilifeform's vector
15:55 j-dawg but i am asking about publishing patches about your own code
15:56 asciilifeform phf has it
15:56 mircea_popescu considering all this is yet new...
15:56 asciilifeform j-dawg: i suspect that folks, even incl. mod6, are still cautious of firing v in anger in the field
15:56 mircea_popescu but yes, some extruding pressure must be applied to get people to use the proper tool
15:56 asciilifeform sorta why i tried to keep mine TINY
15:57 asciilifeform so it can be swallowed WHOLE
15:57 asciilifeform and you can feel entirely confident jumping with the parachute.
15:58 j-dawg oh now i see he actually did http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-November/000178.html
15:59 phf j-dawg: right, i think that's the one that's missing genesis though. so it's sort of a hybrid, you need original v.pl and then you press with a vpatch. i don't think that's the right way
16:00 phf of course producing genesis from original v.pl and then using mod6's vpatch will give you a proper chain
16:00 j-dawg but anyone can make the genesis, no?
16:00 mircea_popescu yes
16:07 mircea_popescu asciilifeform check it out, to this day the nebulously defined "community" around warez standard has a) not moved away from rar ; b) not allowed unicode in names.
16:07 asciilifeform why would it ?
16:08 phf still packs torrents full of rar r00 r01 r02 files
16:08 mircea_popescu modern ?
16:08 mircea_popescu i dunno mang, apparently one can't think without ideograms or something.
16:09 j-dawg i have seen fair share of torrents with unicode filenames
16:09 mircea_popescu you're prolly looking at p2p garbage.
16:09 j-dawg yes, i only have p2p garbage, never was very sociable
16:10 j-dawg nor wanted to pay for alt.bin access
16:12 j-dawg unrelated, how do i search the logs for 't'? since there's no info on ml...
16:12 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=t :D
16:12 j-dawg 500+ entries in 0.0s yay
16:13 phf http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22+t+%22
16:13 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22+T%22 << check out how nicely this works
16:13 mircea_popescu phf still needs a command
16:15 phf i was thinking of maybe making standalone keywords search for a word, but if you want to grep, surround it with quotes. "t" will behave as now, where's t will behave as "^t " or " t$" or " t "
16:15 j-dawg http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-30#816239 typical result :D
16:15 a111 Logged on 2014-08-30 08:31 Vexual: there you go caz, big fat hares t whever punk is
16:15 mircea_popescu heh.
16:16 mircea_popescu j-dawg which one is t again ?
16:16 j-dawg http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/tickets.html
16:16 mircea_popescu ah, mod6 introduced it recently. faster to search from:mod6 and go backwards.
16:16 mircea_popescu it's ~2 weeks old if that.
16:21 j-dawg if i ever release anything related to tmsr, will name it " ".
16:21 mircea_popescu :D
16:21 mircea_popescu are you going to be the hacker formerly known as j-dawg ?
16:22 j-dawg heh
16:22 j-dawg and i'll move to FYROM!
16:22 phf can release anything with unicode in name, and search will happily barf. only uses mp approved letters to operate
16:23 mircea_popescu fuck stop giving him ideas
16:23 j-dawg but that was not unicode, that was plain old space (0x20)
16:23 mircea_popescu he's gonna release u-psilon the dating app or something
16:24 mircea_popescu SPACE IS FOR HUSSIES!
16:24 j-dawg and second version will be named 0x19, and so on to final version 0x00. no unicodez!!!
16:24 mircea_popescu lol
16:25 deedbot [Qntra] A Form Of BitBet Online Again - http://qntra.net/2016/05/a-form-of-bitbet-online-again/
16:27 davout danielpbarron: maybe mention the znort guy by name in the qntra piece, dude's wot'd after all
16:27 davout kinda outdated though
16:37 BingoBoingo $up AaronvanW
16:37 deedbot AaronvanW voiced for 30 minutes.
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17:24 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://www.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2016/05/04/estero-man-arrested-hacking-into-state-lee-elections-website-david-levin-dan-sinclair/83921672
17:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:30 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://xakep.ru/2011/12/26/58104 << vintage lulz. bios rootkit in 2011, in intel-branded mb, pretty good evidence but nobody believed (tm)
17:30 gribble The operation succeeded.
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17:54 mircea_popescu heh
17:55 shinohai X marks the spot: http://i.4cdn.org/b/1462829659462.jpg
18:02 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i find it hard to believe nobody actually had done hardware parallelization in 2007.
18:06 asciilifeform virtualization
18:06 mircea_popescu "Моему удивлению не было предела: номер биоса был тем же самым, образы биоса совпадали побайтно, но по какой-то причине серийные материнские платы заработали только тогда, когда я залил в них такой же биос, взятый сайта Intel" vs "Стало ясно,
18:06 mircea_popescu что платы из Китая содержат дополнительные программные модули, прошитые в биосе, а стандартные программы анализа эти модули не увидели." so does it or doesn't it coincide to the byte ?
18:06 asciilifeform one had extra modules, flashed in by updater, it looks like.
18:07 asciilifeform so the turd he was diffing matched, but there was moar.
18:07 mircea_popescu so then not byte-identical
18:07 asciilifeform aha.
18:07 mircea_popescu yeah well... i don't like the style of the author.
18:07 asciilifeform well you gotta follow along, first half is in state of ignorance
18:08 mircea_popescu yaya. and he checked everything and he fell in a state of stupour.
18:08 mircea_popescu he read too much gawker.
18:08 asciilifeform i dun think gawker has yet been invented in ru world.
18:08 mircea_popescu must've, the brainrot is specifically symptomatic.
18:09 mircea_popescu it's a wonder the 2nd para doesn't start with "it's a cold muscovite october and the snow crackles under the steps..." or somesuch shit.
18:09 asciilifeform y'know, there is > 1 way to rot brain
18:09 asciilifeform e.g., drink
18:09 mircea_popescu never to the same.
18:09 mircea_popescu all happy brains are similar ; all rotten ones so very different. or how did that quote go.
18:10 asciilifeform sumthinglikethat
18:11 asciilifeform but actually i find that rotten brains are very - at least externally - similar
18:11 asciilifeform because they tend to fall into sync with mass idiocies
18:11 asciilifeform whereas healthy brain each has own theorems.
18:12 mircea_popescu anyway, i guess this wonder'll be dissected another time. on the strenght of his report, i dun feel inclined to look into the matter any.
18:13 asciilifeform old nyooz, the key bit is the part with the timing analysis
18:13 asciilifeform it showed a quite 'amateur hour' telltale delta, given as the hypervisor can't move the wall clock ~on the fucking wall~ and you can see that it slows the box.
18:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's almost a wonder these people choke on the oh-so-well written phuctor reports. considering the sort of inept bullshit floating about, you'd think they'd fall on knees and worship.
18:13 asciilifeform BUT this was before the 'nsa core' was added to intel cpu.
18:14 asciilifeform in ~those~ days they had to actually run on the x86 cores.
18:14 mircea_popescu "hey, unlike everything else, at least this one doesn't have 5kb of crud prior to the interesting bit"
18:14 asciilifeform they choke ~because~ it has no crud padding
18:14 asciilifeform 'what does this MEAN?!!!!'
18:14 mircea_popescu "i dunno, got a noggin ?"
18:14 mircea_popescu fucktards. you just read it, son of a drunk fucker! why ask ME what it means! what are you for!
18:20 mircea_popescu but in other news : http://66.media.tumblr.com/b834e2676b055d1c5c152b4d705a9bfc/tumblr_nmnv72XTNH1scjhrvo1_250.gif
18:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this guy's profile is utterly irritating.
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18:27 mircea_popescu as i age i'm simply rediscovering what i knew as a nine year old, which is, that i really can't stand "smart kids".
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18:36 mircea_popescu "yeggogology" lol
~ 42 minutes ~
19:19 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465311 << how come?
19:19 a111 Logged on 2016-05-09 22:24 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this guy's profile is utterly irritating.
19:20 mircea_popescu because he purports to misrepresent reality, and worst of all - the reality of his own fucking experience - in castrato terms. o really, "elitism is bad" ? fuck you. if you believe that, how come you're here ?
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19:20 mircea_popescu the only option for the non-elitist, other than feeding the worms immediately, is a life of hypocrisy. there is nothing above, beyond or outside of elitism
19:21 mircea_popescu if you're a woman you can be a cow. if you're not, there's nothing. that's it.
19:22 mircea_popescu generally this "why can't we all get along, you don't really HAVE to hold your legs crossed like that in the subway, not REALLY, do you" bullshit readily irritates me.
19:22 mircea_popescu the intimation that losing it means you've "grown up" is particularly pernicious. you don't "grow up" by going bald. you just grow old, is all.
19:25 mircea_popescu all the bullshit about a very faux, miserable definition of "ethics" - no, ethics is pointedly NOT what he thinks, not anymore than capitalism is what the us runs ; all the bullshit about how "it's not a game anymore" as if a) it ever was and b) the losers, ie, "law enforcement", derpy marketeers and generally the feminine enemy is possibly ever in any manner even conceivably winning anything...
19:26 mircea_popescu gtfo already. it never was a game, it was always rape, and we always raped them. what "not a game anymore".
19:26 mircea_popescu strip or i'll make you.
19:27 mircea_popescu anyway. irreconcilable differences.
~ 16 minutes ~
19:43 mod6 <+j-dawg> mod6: just curious - why you have not published v patches in v? << yeah, i feel like, it's not yet mature enough to warrent its own genesis.
19:44 mircea_popescu will have to be done eventually.
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19:44 mod6 yeah, no doubt.
19:45 mod6 but for instance, let's just say that everything about the graphing or whatever things were being discussed this weekend were wrong.
19:45 mircea_popescu new v.
19:45 mircea_popescu i mean new genesis.
19:45 mod6 then we'd have one nasty genesis.
19:45 mircea_popescu so ?
19:45 mircea_popescu this has ~never stopped nature, has it ? hence byproducts like trump, obama, clinton, bush etc.
19:45 mod6 well, i guess i was hoping that more people would use it.
19:46 mod6 and it's actually quite hard to get people to use it it turns out.
19:46 mircea_popescu the only way you'll ever find out it was wrong would be through people using it
19:46 mircea_popescu and then they'll use the new one.
19:46 mircea_popescu although some pretty major cataclysm is needed to invalidate a genesis. you can just patch it into correctness downstream neh ?
19:47 mod6 ofc
19:47 mircea_popescu and if it gets gnarly, rebasing is your friend.
19:47 mod6 i guess i don't see much of a reason to rush this
19:47 mircea_popescu no reason to rush it, no. but still... hasta be done :)
19:47 mod6 fair enough.
19:48 mircea_popescu (this, incidentally, has some interesting interplay with key updates - suddenly in a V world, the principal reason to get a new key is, "i'm sick of all tyhe old bullshit, wanna take a year off and rebase everything. here's my new key.")
19:48 shinohai mod6 survived Monday. [~]D
19:49 mod6 mircea_popescu: ah yeah. some of this crossed my mind.
19:50 mod6 i also think that V might get a huge overhaul perhaps.
19:50 mod6 this would be possibly because of integration of stan's ideas about heart/eyes/hands/brain, etc.
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19:50 mod6 although, i haven't done enough thinking on this yet to actually have a plan or anything. just throwing that out there.
19:50 mircea_popescu yeah. it's all yet new.
19:51 mod6 but, either way, could still be integrated downstream
19:51 mod6 and perhaps thats better anyway.
19:51 mod6 *shrug*
19:53 mod6 i'll y to make some steps towards getting a genesis going -- gotta get through this `t' stuff first tho
19:53 mircea_popescu works.
19:53 mod6 i'm getting closer with that part, just trying to make the graphing a bit better.
19:53 mod6 <+shinohai> mod6 survived Monday. [~]D << yea!
~ 1 hours 34 minutes ~
21:27 * mod6 tips his hat to shinohai
21:28 mod6 He's already plugged in and doing things with wiki.deedbot.org :]
21:28 mod6 Thanks for getting him going trinque, this is most important work. And salud to you for providing the framework!
21:30 shinohai I like the framework, simple no nonsense
21:34 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465348 << imho none of this needs to be ~in~ v.
21:34 a111 Logged on 2016-05-09 23:50 mod6: this would be possibly because of integration of stan's ideas about heart/eyes/hands/brain, etc.
21:34 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465316 << not why i linked it, but this is a point.
21:34 a111 Logged on 2016-05-09 23:20 mircea_popescu: because he purports to misrepresent reality, and worst of all - the reality of his own fucking experience - in castrato terms. o really, "elitism is bad" ? fuck you. if you believe that, how come you're here ?
21:35 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465312 << not sure what it has to do with 'smart kidz' though. it is really more about folks who have been behind the barbed wire for too long, of whatever level
21:35 a111 Logged on 2016-05-09 22:27 mircea_popescu: as i age i'm simply rediscovering what i knew as a nine year old, which is, that i really can't stand "smart kids".
21:42 mod6 alf: congrats on the quitting
21:43 mod6 <+asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-09#1465348 << imho none of this needs to be ~in~ v. << yeah i gotta re-read all of this stuff again.
21:43 a111 Logged on 2016-05-09 23:50 mod6: this would be possibly because of integration of stan's ideas about heart/eyes/hands/brain, etc.
21:53 asciilifeform mod6: i suggested it for pgptron
22:01 mod6 ah.
22:01 mod6 hrm. must have mis-remembered that
22:02 asciilifeform on 2nd thought i never said precisely where.
22:02 asciilifeform but signatures are produced in pgptron, not in v.
~ 28 minutes ~
22:31 mod6 i need to look again,but have handsfull at current second
22:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform no. it's the sort of kid that seeks approval in school.
22:32 mircea_popescu this usually overlaps with the subset that has any chance at getting any.
~ 27 minutes ~
23:00 asciilifeform ah l0l! the grinding wheels !
23:00 mircea_popescu hm ?
23:01 asciilifeform the 'seeks approval' kid
23:02 mircea_popescu it's a typical behaviour of the weak (which is how women end up so ensconced in the general aspic of stupid womanhood), that's veheheeerily carefully cultivated by socialist/female society.
23:03 mircea_popescu the difference being that there's good anatomic reasons for female physical weakness ; there's no good reasons whatsoever for intelligent kid social ineptitude.
23:03 mircea_popescu but they teach girls to "not can" math with the same instruments.
23:05 asciilifeform ftr i disagree with 'no good reasons whatsoever for intelligent kid social ineptitude'
23:05 asciilifeform recall the chimp cage in the zoo ?
23:05 mircea_popescu eh.
23:05 asciilifeform what if you have NO USE for chimps.
23:05 asciilifeform none, whatsoever.
23:05 asciilifeform no matter if there is no one else around.
23:07 mircea_popescu experimentally, intelligent girls they forget to teach about how they're creative and can't learn math accidentally learn math just like normal human beings. idem intelligent boys they forget to teach they should be shy and inept do just fine. in other news, http://i40.tinypic.com/69i0dz.jpg
23:09 asciilifeform l0l!
23:09 mircea_popescu aha.
23:09 asciilifeform i still wonder why cn forgave the 'accidenting' of its embassy so easily.
23:09 asciilifeform (y'know, the place where the carcass was stored)
23:09 mircea_popescu somehow nobody makes any hay of the fact that THE SERBS WERE INTERCEPTING NATO MILITARY COMMS. IN 1999!
23:12 asciilifeform https://cryptome.org/2016-info/cia-obl-snafu/cia-obl-snafu.htm << somewhat related lulz.
23:17 mircea_popescu expired cert ?
23:17 asciilifeform aha, but who gives a fuck
23:18 mircea_popescu why the fuck even bother with https already. it's insecure, we know this.they don't even cursory make an attempt. what's next, go on tor ?
23:18 asciilifeform i have nfi
23:18 asciilifeform why does cargocult airplane need straw propeller.
23:18 asciilifeform ask them, not me.
23:18 * mircea_popescu doesn't read it. fucking derps.
23:19 asciilifeform https://archive.is/WMjTV << cured.
23:19 asciilifeform special for mircea_popescu .
23:19 mircea_popescu why thank you. and speaking of dubiosenii,
23:19 mircea_popescu ;;later tell gwern hey, you around ?
23:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
23:19 asciilifeform incidentally might ask archive.is why they ssl.
23:21 mircea_popescu these people are idiots. the mock-up is accurate.
23:21 mircea_popescu derps never been on a movie set.
23:22 mircea_popescu "accurate" in this context does not mean "geometrically identical to rando tourist with a camera", but "of such configuration all scripted scenes can be filmed without visible difference". you can fold it, which is what they did. burbank does the exact fucking thing all the time.
23:25 asciilifeform perhaps they forgot that the real scene does not fold to fit the chopper...
23:32 mircea_popescu eh, i imagine it must utterly suck to work pr for the usarmy etc. you're stuck reading the internet, this unique mezclado of pointed ignorance and cured coincidence.
23:32 mircea_popescu if the fucking chopper pilot needed a lifesized model to land his bird...
23:33 mircea_popescu grunts on the ground need the fucking model, because muscle memory.
23:40 deedbot [Qntra] Insurgent Florida Politician Arrested After Auditing Local Election Website Security - http://qntra.net/2016/05/insurgent-florida-politician-arrested-after-auditing-local-election-website-security/
23:40 BingoBoingo ^ asciilifeform
23:47 mircea_popescu win.
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