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00:05 trinque y'know like being on IRC
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00:30 trinque doing the fundamentally right thing here, I think, involves the act of rating being that you make a deed of a signed statement which is your rating.
00:34 trinque then my gossipd deednode chatters about rating deeds to mike_c after x confirmations
00:38 mats $12 a blowjob is an odd number
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00:38 deedbot $12 a blowjob is an odd number is not a command.
00:38 mats oh hello there
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00:38 trinque lol
00:39 mats $20, even $10, i get it, but $12?
00:39 deedbot $20, even $10, i get it, but $12? is not a command.
00:54 ben_vulpes i have a pgbomination wired into trb somewhere in my working tree.
00:54 ben_vulpes shits txen into mother postgres as they come down the pipe
00:55 ben_vulpes not even partially baked, got distracted by 'necessary prerequisite'
00:57 ben_vulpes (a far cry from 'poc or gtfo', i know)
01:01 trinque neat
01:01 ben_vulpes notrly, it haunts me as i go to sleep
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01:17 mod6 heheh
01:18 trinque the bitbet auction pointed at the same problem, which looks more v-tronic the more I think about it
01:19 trinque certainly in both cases before/after is what matters, not necessarily *when*
01:19 trinque and who, of course
01:29 mircea_popescu trinque> there are myriad ddos reasons one might not want any user to be able to interrogate the db << technically, all php driven websites are just a thin wrapper over user-driven mysql calls.
01:29 mircea_popescu literotica recent thing being a lulzy point in case
01:30 mircea_popescu even exposed their shitty locking policies lolz.
01:30 mircea_popescu (yes, obviously could ddos the site, permanently)
01:31 mircea_popescu trinque> I've yet to be convinced that the database isn't a thing << hey, i've been following your crusade from the foxhole, i dun see that it lost as of yet.
01:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform this isn't how mitm works. so what, mike_c gets fed bad data, and then we see it, and then what.
01:35 mircea_popescu mats> $20, even $10, i get it, but $12? << market forces. prolly the price of a suficient number of hot pocketz or w/e.
01:37 mircea_popescu trinque> and who, of course << there is no "when" outside of before/after other than yet another derpy attempt by usg to matter, which ~nobody gives a shit about. (see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193955 re that if you care)
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01:37 a111 Logged on 2015-07-08 23:22 decimation: also describing it as 'political time' when the policy is 'matches easily observable astronomical phenomena' seems a bit hyperbolic
01:42 trinque that recently caused me to change the "last updated at" on deedbot.org to use a block number in place of a timestamp.
01:42 * trinque to bed
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05:03 punkman https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/367 "we demonstrate various weaknesses of the random number generator (RNG) in the OpenSSL cryptographic library"
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07:18 shinohai http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451009 <<< lol
07:18 a111 Logged on 2016-04-13 04:38 mats: $12 a blowjob is an odd number
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07:41 shinohai ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/wz7
07:41 gribble The operation succeeded.
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08:18 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451036 <<
08:18 a111 Logged on 2016-04-13 09:03 punkman: https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/367 "we demonstrate various weaknesses of the random number generator (RNG) in the OpenSSL cryptographic library"
08:18 asciilifeform l0l!!
08:18 asciilifeform Run Moar Whitened RNG!!
08:19 asciilifeform also look forward to the nsa 'fix' for this 'bug'.
08:22 shinohai Here's one to make you cringe asciilifeform https://github.com/davidapple/davemail
08:22 shinohai Because we need more secure javascript
08:23 asciilifeform shinohai: snore.
08:23 shinohai >.>
08:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451032 << nav satellites actually won't work at all unless they agree on 'what nanosecond IS IT NOW' globally - but notice, they gotta carry own clocks for this.
08:29 a111 Logged on 2016-04-13 05:37 mircea_popescu: trinque> and who, of course << there is no "when" outside of before/after other than yet another derpy attempt by usg to matter, which ~nobody gives a shit about. (see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-08#1193955 re that if you care)
08:29 asciilifeform if your application needs agreement on time xxxx km away, you have no choice but to have synced cesium clock on each end.
08:30 asciilifeform but 'there is no when' is bullshit, you can ~create~ the 'when'.
08:31 asciilifeform what there ~isn't~ and won't be is a unified planetary clock independent of the inca empire of the day...
08:31 asciilifeform such a thing can only exist as a ritual of empire, consider where we got GMT.
08:35 jurov eh, get away. all empires had to observe the same astronomical events
08:36 shinohai Sync boxes with the official trilema sundial.
08:36 asciilifeform jurov: good luck observing same events from north and south hemi
08:38 jurov stuff along the ecliptic is visible from all inhabitated places...
08:38 jurov like, planets are the same on bith hemispheres
08:38 jurov *both
08:38 asciilifeform go sync naval chronometer to that.
08:38 punkman relevant https://science.slashdot.org/story/11/05/11/1745213/government-funded-atomic-clock-on-a-chip
08:39 asciilifeform punkman: ancient news, there is one in the museum where i live
08:39 jurov asciilifeform: +- hour accuracy is still usable
08:40 asciilifeform +- day is still 'usable' somewhere.
08:41 asciilifeform at any rate, thread was about 'absolute time', counted from some agreed-upon zero
08:45 jurov what does political time have with it? does nonpolitical time even exist?
08:46 jurov when ancien cultires tracked equinoxes for agriculture purposes, was that political too?
08:46 asciilifeform yes.
08:47 * asciilifeform bbl
08:48 jurov so you mean "political" == "imposed by biological human condition"... but then the term is so all-encompassing and vague and thus useless.
08:55 jurov everything we observe and talk about is then "political"
09:06 punkman wut
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09:58 deedbot- [fr.anco.is] BitBet receivership third progress report - http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-third-progress-report
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10:22 mircea_popescu $up davout
10:23 mircea_popescu i let you know already! http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1449011 and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1449050 and in general, if you're taking the weekend off or not you still have to read the log. at the absolute very least your own highlights ffs.
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10:23 a111 Logged on 2016-04-08 21:00 mircea_popescu: davout for my curiosity, did you move the hotwallet funds or did you pass the codebase along with the hotwallet ?
10:23 a111 Logged on 2016-04-08 20:36 mircea_popescu: davout i have nfi what you did here. for one thing, shareholders don't get 86, they get 86 + 1% of resolveed bets - 13.37
10:24 mircea_popescu asciilifeform they only find out they don't agree through a before/after violation.
10:24 mircea_popescu there really, positively, finally and definitively does NOT exist any sort of "time"
10:25 mircea_popescu not anymore than there exists "fuckability"
10:26 mircea_popescu jurov> eh, get away. all empires had to observe the same astronomical events << the concept of "event" is fundamentally distinct from your notion of "time".
10:26 mircea_popescu plox to also revisit the discussion re shitty computers and "number", and how the field of even numbers is "not contiguous" scl.
10:26 mircea_popescu they're all the same thing, these.
10:30 mircea_popescu jurov> everything we observe and talk about is then "political" << and so it is. re the public/private distinction made by the republic. it further follows that anything public in a space poisoned by the socialist ideology will be political. you know, from polithea, shitpit.
10:30 mircea_popescu which is why http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1448711
10:30 a111 Logged on 2016-04-08 15:36 mircea_popescu: here's how spears work : they have a business end and a handle. the handle - always points toward you. the business end - always points to the enemy.
10:32 mircea_popescu jurov> so you mean "political" == "imposed by biological human condition"... << no. there is nothing biological or human about political space. it is antibiological and inhuman.
10:32 mircea_popescu which is what they generally mean by "civilised". antibiological and inhuman.
10:38 mircea_popescu and in perhaps-interesting news, https://github.com/oftn/TPFS
10:40 mircea_popescu apparently there's something calling tiself "ΩF:∅" doing something or the other
10:48 mircea_popescu and in which line, wtf is "racket" omfg.
10:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the openssl link is gold, mega-recommended
10:49 asciilifeform pretty much everything i ever said re the turd, is demonstrated true.
10:49 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you recall pretty much you ever said about the turd, i never contested.
10:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if you're thinking of the prog lang by same name, it is trendoid rubbish
10:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aha.
10:50 mircea_popescu https://racket-lang.org/ << check it out cocacolambda!
10:50 mircea_popescu or was that pepsi
10:50 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: scheme with haskellisms bolted on
10:50 asciilifeform 'crazy shitstick'
10:51 asciilifeform (never mind that you can do this in 100 or so lines of ordinary scheme - no, the wankers gotta have the square brackets, 'laziness', other nonsense, PERMA-welded on)
10:55 mircea_popescu basically i suspect we accidentally collided (via eulora, no less!) with a group of well meaning fellows that are argentinia-level managed and perhaps there's a joining available. we see.
10:55 mircea_popescu but anyway, asciilifeform anything re little scheme ?
10:56 asciilifeform waiwut
10:56 mircea_popescu http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-12#1450421
10:56 a111 Logged on 2016-04-12 13:19 mircea_popescu: incidentally : anyone on friendly terms with cs depts at unis / cs profs, plox get in touch, i have a little scheme i could use your halp with. ty!
10:56 asciilifeform ah
10:56 mircea_popescu you know... LITTLE SCHEME :D
10:56 asciilifeform is there something other than the logz where it lives ?
10:57 asciilifeform that i can link to?
10:57 asciilifeform then i can write to some folks.
10:57 mircea_popescu i would think logs best. do you think they're defective in some way ?
10:57 asciilifeform yeah.
10:57 mircea_popescu happy to remedy, describe defects plox.
10:57 asciilifeform not the logz, that is
10:57 asciilifeform the oldsters
10:57 mircea_popescu oh.
10:57 mircea_popescu well... advise and if doable we do.
10:58 asciilifeform perhaps write up idea in a ps0t
10:58 mircea_popescu did you ever see write-up of similar that seemed good to you ?
10:58 asciilifeform (not a single old-timer i ever linked to the logz, ever came...)
10:58 mircea_popescu (ie, prev art ?)
11:00 asciilifeform gossipd article was pretty much complete
11:00 asciilifeform esp. if you count the commentz
11:00 asciilifeform i'd take that as a gold standard.
11:01 mircea_popescu lol prev art for req';d trilema article to be found... on trilema. my heads ;/
11:01 mircea_popescu anyway ok, brb hacking something together we see.
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11:59 deedbot- [Qntra] Ethereum Foundation Outsources Forum To Censorship Experiment - http://qntra.net/2016/04/ethereum-foundation-outsources-forum-to-censorship-experiment/
11:59 BingoBoingo shinohai: Thank you again.
12:00 shinohai thx as well BingoBoingo I never miss an opportunity to lol at ETH
12:00 asciilifeform dip 2.51 % is 'freefall' ??
12:00 shinohai "in last 24 hours alone"
12:02 mats use a more impressive number
12:04 mircea_popescu hey, last time euro dropped 1% in a day, you couldn't get out of the fucking "o noes europe is teh end" usg agitprop
12:04 mircea_popescu china, similar.
12:04 mats 30% drop over two weeks!1
12:05 mircea_popescu or that.
12:10 * asciilifeform is still thinking about mircea_popescu's revelation re whore pricing
12:10 asciilifeform it echoes the price mechanics of, e.g., industrial equipment
12:11 asciilifeform and other items i'm more familiar with
12:11 asciilifeform e.g., same instrument but 'to corporate account' grows 2-3 new leading zeroes
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12:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/the-eulora-millenium-of-code-challenge/ any good ?
12:27 mircea_popescu asciilifeform there are more confounding factors for whores. take simple example : you're paid to eat, but have to eat the food the sponsor pays for. what if you think tgi tuesdays is meh ?
12:28 * asciilifeform reads mircea_popescu's thing
12:28 mircea_popescu whore is a lot more selective, similarly, and demanding, similarly.
12:28 asciilifeform what's a tgi
12:28 mircea_popescu ;;ud tgi tuesdays
12:28 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=t.g.i.f.+tuesday | ... Spanish · Swedish · Thai · Turkish · Ukrainian · Vietnamese · Help translate! ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯. There aren't any definitions for t.g.i.f. tuesday yet. Can you define it?
12:28 mircea_popescu hm
12:28 mircea_popescu shitty chain of fast food pretending to be a restaurant
12:28 mircea_popescu "ever wanted to eat couch airplane food on land ? HERE IT IS"
12:28 mircea_popescu coach*
12:28 asciilifeform urgh
12:29 phf "eww, mcdonalds, lets go to tgis instead"
12:29 asciilifeform and yes, whore is paid to fuck folks she would not otherwise consider
12:29 mircea_popescu aha. I REALLY MISS BAD CATERED LUNCHES FROM WORK
12:29 asciilifeform just as i, employed as another type of whore, have to do things i otherwise would not even want to know ~exist~
12:29 asciilifeform much less do them on free will
12:30 mircea_popescu asciilifeform but this also makes you more likely to put in the work to tmsr.
12:30 mircea_popescu which is why whore (the real kind, that actually works - as opposed to what the female group wail purports) is in all times and places the young leader's best and most trustworthy ally.
12:31 mircea_popescu also very cheap gauge. no need to risk your head - if the working girls don't worship you, best stay in school.
12:31 phf in before jesus
12:31 asciilifeform what is the alleged/'wail' type of whore ?
12:31 asciilifeform (vs 'real')
12:31 mircea_popescu (now guess why puritans like to pretend like the brothel is damnation, notwithstanding it is intricately linked to all stories of individual success - take paris for your instance.
12:33 mircea_popescu and yes, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-10#1449778
12:33 a111 Logged on 2016-04-10 15:58 mircea_popescu: it's these specific lobotomies that allow "certain kinds" of societies to function.
12:33 mircea_popescu asciilifeform when i was a kid in middle school, there was this red headed 14 yo that "everyone knew" was A TOTAL WHORE.
12:33 mircea_popescu because the girls said so.
12:33 mircea_popescu who the fuck asked a bunch of retarded 14 yo females anything ?
12:36 mircea_popescu there's this group behaviour, the female wail. go into a group and shoot one in the head. see what happens.
12:36 asciilifeform http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-apple-fbi-encryption-debate-20160412-story.html << unrelated but lulzy
12:36 mircea_popescu it ensured their survival throughout otherwise very unfriendly history, and it is and likely will remain the central pillar of female socialisation and social behaviour. they wail.
12:37 mircea_popescu not like reddit invented "brigading".
12:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not mega-seekrit, if i turn on a radio or tv set, 9 in 10 chance i hear precisely this wail.
12:40 trinque ^ hopefully he'll survive a netsplit now
12:41 mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, it gets tiresome.
12:41 asciilifeform aha.
12:42 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: your article is not very helpful to folks who neither know what is eulora nor can be arsed.
12:42 deedbot- [Trilema] The Eulora Millenium of Code Challenge - http://trilema.com/2016/the-eulora-millenium-of-code-challenge/
12:42 mircea_popescu notes notwithstanding ?
12:43 asciilifeform hm possibly notes help.
12:43 mircea_popescu i was going for this entire "keep it short and notify"
12:43 mircea_popescu to get under the "hey this is too long for me to read - i'm in academia damnit"
12:43 asciilifeform imho the megalith-of-logz-with-notes only works when 'preaching to choir'
12:44 mircea_popescu well why i put the log in notes.
12:44 mircea_popescu you saying it should be a later note ?
12:44 asciilifeform imho whole thing should fit on one a4.
12:44 asciilifeform in 14pt face.
12:45 mircea_popescu i have nfi how to do this ;/
12:45 asciilifeform then i could shove it under some office doorz.
12:45 asciilifeform 2sided ok.
12:45 mircea_popescu it is currently 11667 characters, which means like 20 pages
12:46 diana_coman fwiw I think asciilifeform has a point there
12:46 mircea_popescu well on one hand shoving it under door seems a miserable plan to me. if you can't say to some guy "hey, look into this!" prolly best not molest 'em
12:47 mircea_popescu on the other hand, i have nfi how to make it shorter. i guess the irc transcript could be made to go away ?
12:47 mircea_popescu seems a serious loss, as the convo is very tense in the original, and i doubt anyone but they involved even has the priors to grok wtf is being said.
12:47 asciilifeform terse ?
12:48 mircea_popescu tense.
12:48 mircea_popescu thinking of text in "ai" terms, the more complex the graph / strlen, the tenser.
12:49 diana_coman I think what is difficult to grok at all there is what exactly (even in broad terms) is the offering - what is this millenium of code challenge at core
12:50 asciilifeform yeah that part also confused me
12:50 mircea_popescu at the core it is - you get the chance to offload most of your actual work on a private company.
12:50 mircea_popescu which is, as far as history informs, what all bureaucrats ever really wanted.
12:50 asciilifeform is this meant to entice kidz to hack on eulora ?
12:50 asciilifeform or what
12:51 asciilifeform or for profs to assign it as hw instead of etherium ?
12:51 BingoBoingo AHA! mircea_popescu has a side effect of supporting the entrenchment of English through Eulora!
12:51 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo sad but true.
12:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform none of that. teacher has to make up a fucking teaching plan, and establish curricula and scoring criteria and whatnot. THIS IS WORK
12:52 asciilifeform then it is even more of a puzzler
12:52 mircea_popescu can just meld it off eulora, get more class participation while watching more dr who or w/e tyhe fuck it is they do./
12:52 asciilifeform how does eulora relate to this ?
12:52 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well the tools aren't there to replace it yet.
12:52 mircea_popescu win-win as they say.
12:52 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you gotta give kids soemthign to do, right ?
12:52 asciilifeform yeah but in no remaining american school is that something c++.
12:52 mircea_popescu so ?
12:52 asciilifeform or likely ever again to be.
12:52 mircea_popescu they can make their own node.js client, who cares what tech they use.
12:53 asciilifeform ah hm.
12:53 mircea_popescu they can make a smaller part ; or a method to do x. for that matter hooks are exposed and more or less documented.
12:53 mircea_popescu they can make a perl bot to bid in irc auctions ffs. anything they want, they can make.
12:54 mircea_popescu jurov more or less bolted scheme on the thing from what i hear. some other guy whose programming experience consists of flash reskinned the client in a coupla days.
12:54 * asciilifeform realized that the idea ~very much is~ euloratronic, intrinsically, and as such asciilifeform is not the man to properly push it to skeptics face to face, not being a eulorist
12:55 * mircea_popescu shrugs.
12:56 asciilifeform i mean, if i had to explain how the thing is fun & enlightening etc i could not do a proper job, sadly.
12:56 mircea_popescu in this sense no one could ever do anything. heck, i can't explain why roses are fun and enlightening either.
12:56 diana_coman asciilifeform, my not-yet-fully-formed idea was that it offers a. meaning hence interest from students b. active and responsive channel hence support c. wider experience (aka mystical "industry skillz" we need more of) d. (or overall) actually getting them into a wot that yeah, supports learning and not only tech either
12:57 mircea_popescu it seems rather obvious that a bunch of undergrads would prefer to hack on a game over any and all other possible tasks they could get. not sure this point needs further argument, but if it does, prolly the blockhead in question not fit for white collar work anyway.
12:58 asciilifeform i readily believe this. but never having ~personally~ played, am not adequately qualified to make the case.
12:58 mircea_popescu aite.
12:58 asciilifeform also i suspect that the current crop of undergrads will barf - 'omfg1111, 1990s graphics!11'
12:58 asciilifeform but this is conjecture.
12:58 diana_coman and it kind of got onto me because of all this current academia apparent strive towards "using OS as a way to get students develop wider skills and be more ready for industry" stuff; see open academy etc
12:59 asciilifeform diana_coman: at what school, i wonder, is any of that ~actually~ happening
12:59 diana_coman I don't mean we should now explain how it is more interesting, more a statement of concrete points
12:59 diana_coman hmmm, borenstein is with stanford I think?
13:00 asciilifeform whos'that
13:00 diana_coman basically there is Open Academy that apparently works to some extent - by that I mean it gets some students to do something useful over a few months with mentors from respective OS projects
13:01 diana_coman and after an initial hackaton thingee
13:01 mircea_popescu mime guy neh ?
13:01 diana_coman jay borenstein, he's the initiator of Open Academy as far as I know (I don't know him personally)
13:01 mircea_popescu ah
13:03 diana_coman I'm still internally filtering a list of people I think might be most interested
13:09 mircea_popescu but back to more prosaic concerns, hey mod6 ben_vulpes what's gonna be in this month's foundation report ?
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13:10 trinque o,0
13:11 trinque phf: what'd you end up changing in that ping/pong code?
13:25 phf trinque: basically state is *last-pong* and *connection-state*
13:25 phf in irc-pong-message hook i do (setq *last-pong* (max ping-time (or *last-pong* 0)))
13:29 phf and there's a state machine in a thread http://paste.lisp.org/display/313413
13:30 phf it measures time since *last-pong* on each tick, and if more then some time passed it sends out ping with current time and goes into waiting-ping state
13:31 phf then if it gets a pong everything's ok, or it goes into a disconnect
13:31 deedbot- [Qntra] As US Farmers Suffer As Corn Imports To US Increase - http://qntra.net/2016/04/as-us-farmers-suffer-as-corn-imports-to-us-increase/
13:32 BingoBoingo ^ From the not a typo department
13:33 phf trinque: actual state machine is a bit more elaborate, but atm incomplete. i'm writing it so that bot is entirely driven by the state machine, but right now only connected, ping/pong and disconnect parts are thought through
13:35 phf trinque: that's the entire bot mgmt code http://paste.lisp.org/display/313414
13:35 * phf brb
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13:55 trinque phf: neat, thanks
14:01 mircea_popescu collection of lispbots, so fucking unreal.
14:14 BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats
14:14 gribble Current Blocks: 407132 | Current Difficulty: 1.668515132827772E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 407231 | Next Difficulty In: 99 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 15 hours, 8 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
14:14 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
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14:22 BingoBoingo ;;more
14:22 gribble 424.651017192
14:29 asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451248 << i've been wondering same.
14:29 a111 Logged on 2016-04-13 17:09 mircea_popescu: but back to more prosaic concerns, hey mod6 ben_vulpes what's gonna be in this month's foundation report ?
14:31 asciilifeform much as i would like to see that cart move when i'm not actively pushing on it, thus far this has not been the case.
14:31 asciilifeform (though phf recently did some interesting experimentation with shiva, iirc)
14:34 phf i'm useful
14:34 asciilifeform there is a stupendous amount of work to be done, but unfortunately i personally do not have the free arms and legs to do it, currently
14:34 asciilifeform (e.g., openssl must die; wallet must be cut loose and made to function sanely)
14:34 phf but my shiva experiments were interrupted by log writing
14:35 asciilifeform phf made a very spiffy logtron
~ 1 hours 39 minutes ~
16:15 davout http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451077 <<< i have, hence the updated report i'm requesting comments on
16:15 a111 Logged on 2016-04-13 14:23 mircea_popescu: i let you know already! http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1449011 and http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-08#1449050 and in general, if you're taking the weekend off or not you still have to read the log. at the absolute very least your own highlights ffs.
16:16 davout and re the hot wallet, kakobrekla sent it to me, and it was added to the 'currently under my control' part of the cash
~ 1 hours 18 minutes ~
17:35 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4emnne/til_corn_is_an_altcoin/
17:46 trinque $up deedbot-
17:47 deedbot deedbot- voiced for 30 minutes.
~ 32 minutes ~
18:19 shinohai https://np.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/4emgbv/psa_there_is_nothing_inherently_respectable_about/
~ 24 minutes ~
18:43 BingoBoingo shinohai: Pls no np links to reddit. Strip out the no so if people wanna manipulate voats with bots or socks they can without getting them banned.
18:50 shinohai yeah only noticed the np after i had ctrl+v'd
18:52 * shinohai likes downvote bots when he's drinking ....
18:56 BingoBoingo these things happen
19:02 shinohai https://s.graphiq.com/sites/default/files/984/media/images/t2/Mythe_Absinthe_Traditional_412042_i0.jpg <<< just got a bottle of this for bday
19:02 * BingoBoingo kind of jealous
19:03 * BingoBoingo remind self to not plan a relapse
19:04 shinohai I have been toning down myself of late, but do enjoy binges on special occasions. And free booze is free booze.
19:05 punkman who drinks absinthe anyway
19:05 * BingoBoingo had a couple binges
19:05 BingoBoingo on the stuff
19:09 shinohai I do, I rather enjoy it. Got a whole set of spoons, glasses, and all.
19:10 * shinohai hasn't yet gotten so inebriated he chopped off an ear tho
~ 18 minutes ~
19:28 deedbot- [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Contravex : Now with expanded archives. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/04/13/contravex-now-with-expanded-archives/
19:41 deedbot- [Qntra] Putin Providing Material Support To Trump-Clinton Candidacy - http://qntra.net/2016/04/putin-providing-material-support-to-trump-clinton-candidacy/
~ 18 minutes ~
19:59 BingoBoingo Huh, losing the BitBet auction seems to have hit pete pretty hard.
↖
~ 24 minutes ~
20:24 asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/3H4YEDH.txt << qntra ?
20:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:27 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: probably something should be up by morning
20:34 mircea_popescu $up davout
20:34 deedbot davout voiced for 30 minutes.
20:34 mircea_popescu davout kk will read
20:35 mod6 <+shinohai> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451009 <<< lol << It was basically 2 packs of smokes @ $6 ea.
20:35 a111 Logged on 2016-04-13 04:38 mats: $12 a blowjob is an odd number
20:35 asciilifeform http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-third-progress-report#comment-8551 << l0l nubsy is back
20:37 mircea_popescu punkman> who drinks absinthe anyway << preppy, "worldly" 16yos ?
20:40 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Sorry, that didn't take as long as I thought it would.
20:40 deedbot- [Qntra] Journalist Sentenced Under US Hacking Laws - http://qntra.net/2016/04/journalist-sentenced-under-us-hacking-laws/
20:49 shinohai mod6: as long as you got yours! :D
20:51 phf absinthe nights never end good
20:51 mod6 haha
20:53 shinohai Last absinnthe night I had ended with me in a room with 3 girls. I'll say it went dandy.
20:53 mircea_popescu pregnancy tests ok ?
20:59 mats is your dong ok?
21:00 shinohai yup
21:01 mod6 haha.
21:05 phf shinohai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs0Kq3M4idA&t=1m10s
21:08 shinohai rofl
21:09 mod6 lol fuzzy wobbles
21:15 mircea_popescu and in other news, btcbase.org larger referrer for trilema than log.bitcoin-assets by now.
21:16 mircea_popescu (for current month, i mean)\
21:20 mod6 nice
21:21 shinohai Thos #b-a logs are so large every day I can't read them all now.
21:21 mod6 i haven't missed a single day
21:21 mod6 i feel like a book of them would be good to re-read though
21:22 mircea_popescu i think the only one i ever missed was in march
21:22 mike_c ;;later tell trinque dig www.btcalpha.com
21:22 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:22 mircea_popescu i also think he was sartaskik
21:22 mod6 i think the logs contain the most relevant and interesting conversations of our times.
21:22 shinohai Sure, I still read the older stuff
21:23 shinohai still a plethora of info there
21:23 mod6 lot of good stuff on trilema that takes a deeper dive too. all the way back to '11 and beyond
21:23 mod6 anyone wanna toss me a tarball of the logs?
21:24 mircea_popescu same here.
21:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform> there is a stupendous amount of work to be done, but unfortunately i personally do not have the free arms and legs to do it, currently << i'd be happy if i saw the damned phuctor already.
21:25 mircea_popescu shouldn't be SUCH a fucking high bar, already.
21:25 mod6 what was the deal there? something with the database setup?
21:25 mircea_popescu i have nfi, something obscure that's been taking him 6 fucking months. it's beyond scandalous.
21:26 mod6 in other news, thebitcoin.foundataion (Not including therealbitcoin.org) has had 149k uniq requests, and 395k non-uniq requests.
21:26 mod6 nb
21:26 phf mod6: no single tarbal, but that's the canonical sources atm http://btcbase.org/log/2015-11-11#1322198 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-02#1444829 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-12#1450437
21:26 a111 Logged on 2016-04-12 14:12 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-11#1450068 << http://btcbase.org/log-raw/
21:26 a111 Logged on 2016-04-02 19:14 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/tmsr-logs-apr2012-oct2013.txt.tar.gz
21:26 a111 Logged on 2015-11-11 20:12 kakobrekla: chunked my month now http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/log/
21:26 mircea_popescu comparing the workrate differential, i'm starting to think the sane thing to do is spin it off to someone who actually wants to do it and move on.
21:27 mod6 phf: thx, will investigate.
21:27 mike_c ;;later tell trinque and yes, i <3 postgres
21:27 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:27 mircea_popescu mike_c this seem like a sane interface to you, what he's proposing ?
21:28 mircea_popescu im starting to think actually shared sql may be a very sane and deeply correct way t ogo about things.
21:28 mircea_popescu db can even be maintained in a shared, hashed, headless, distributed manner a la torrents
21:28 mike_c readonly access from someone trusted enough not to grab locks on everything? I guess
21:28 mircea_popescu and be inquirable by independent services.
21:28 mike_c personally if doing something like that I'd setup a read slave
21:28 mircea_popescu sorta like bbs-with-sql, if you will, from another perspective
21:28 mike_c and still expect it to get hosed
21:28 mod6 mike_c: hey! qq: those zocchi dice are the real deal 'eh?
21:29 mike_c hehe, that threw me for a loop
21:29 mike_c linking to 2 year old comments
21:29 mircea_popescu ;;ud zocchi dice
21:29 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zocchihedron | The d100, a one hundred sided die invented and produced by Lou Zocchi, of GameScience. ... No set of dice is complete without a Zocchihedron.
21:29 mircea_popescu aok
21:29 mike_c the point isn't the d100, the point is he makes fair dice
21:29 mircea_popescu is there such a thing ?
21:30 mike_c fair-er
21:30 mircea_popescu aok
21:30 mike_c better for RNG with dicelist
21:30 mod6 yei don't care about the d100
21:30 mod6 im more interested in like a d16
21:30 mircea_popescu if bias is the concern, you just degauss them. if not bias is the concern, wtf can he do to improve ?
21:31 mike_c manufacturing process. it's pretty deterministic, roll random dice x times, roll his dice x times, his are better
21:32 mircea_popescu mike_c the idea is you know what i mean by degaussing ?
21:32 mike_c mod6: I am not an expert and haven't tested anything. simply word-on-the-street level info
21:32 mod6 werd man. thanks.
21:32 mod6 they look p-damn good.
21:32 mike_c degaussing no, I took it as the nuemann thing for unreliable number smoothing
21:33 mod6 i'll report back on 'em.
21:33 mircea_popescu yeah, exactky that.
21:33 mircea_popescu http://pit-claudel.fr/clement/blog/generating-uniformly-random-data-from-skewed-input-biased-coins-loaded-dice-skew-correction-and-the-von-neumann-extractor/ for ref
21:34 mod6 yeah, i can't seem to determine if they should be whitened if good rolling techniques are used. meaning, high friction surface, bounce off wall, shake in round & covered cup, etc.
21:34 mod6 huh, thanks for the link. will read.
21:34 mike_c but does that work with 1-6 instead of binary? I mean, you could build up the numbers binarily, but that seems like an even bigger pain than buying fancy dice
21:34 mod6 i've been doing some reading about this lately on what I can find.
21:35 mircea_popescu mike_c yes, it';s necessarily generalizable ; i linked a generalisation for convenience.
21:35 mod6 mike_c: there's this whole thread from turdtalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297077.0;all
21:35 mike_c sheesh, that still exists
21:35 mod6 not even sure if this shit is at all accurate or whatnot ^
21:35 mod6 so take with grain of salt
21:40 shinohai mod6: I suppose you have read http://www.swansontec.com/bitcoin-dice.html
21:41 mod6 shinohai: ah, i've breezed through it rather quick, yes.
21:41 mod6 mp's link looks pretty good.
21:41 mod6 although, i wanna do stuff all by hand, if that makes sense.
21:42 shinohai Next we will have you mining with an abacus :D
21:42 mircea_popescu you can, if you wanna.
21:44 mod6 i did a recursive wget on this files.bitcoin-assets.com and alf has his own dir. lol
21:44 mod6 122Mlog
21:44 mircea_popescu seems maybe on the low side ?
21:45 mircea_popescu o no nm, it was like 180mb all total iirc
21:45 mod6 lemme see...
21:45 mod6 1.1Gfiles.bitcoin-assets.com/ << but there's even a movie in here, wot tarballs, bitstamp incident report,e tc.
21:46 mod6 539Mlenat-leaks
21:46 mircea_popescu lol wtf movie
21:47 mod6 there's a bunch of stuff, even a gpg bin?
21:47 mod6 assets-log.sql.tar.gz << and this
21:48 mod6 SymbolicsTalk28June2012.m4v
21:48 mod6 i just did a `mkdir foo ; cd foo ; wget -r http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/log/`
21:49 mod6 you may wanna run the same thing, probably faster than me rolling it up and passing to you.
22:01 mod6 http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-13#1451248 << oh probably whatever work I get done in the vein of trinque's makefiles.
22:01 a111 Logged on 2016-04-13 17:09 mircea_popescu: but back to more prosaic concerns, hey mod6 ben_vulpes what's gonna be in this month's foundation report ?
22:02 mircea_popescu were you basically retooling for ada ?
22:02 mod6 naw, more like going through ada baby steps like these: http://zhu-qy.blogspot.com/2012/08/adatutor-simple-declarations-and-simple_13.html
22:03 mod6 and writing a lexigraphical parser in scheme, poorly.
22:03 mircea_popescu prolly should have a sit down and get goals together tomorrow or somesuch ?
22:03 mod6 after the 15th, i need to contex switch, saddle up, lock and load on the makefile thing and see if we can finally get this stuff wrapped up.
22:04 mod6 yeah, i've been a bit mia because of all this shit-shoveling i've had to do lately.
22:04 mircea_popescu is tomorro workable ? i'm mostly around all teh time so no biggy for me. or better later in week ? fri ? sun ?
22:05 mod6 during the day has been horrid for me for the last ~3 weeks. but, will try to stop in tomorrow night and discuss a bit.
22:05 mod6 i agree, a bit of a plan would be good. hold me to something i think.
22:05 mircea_popescu night, as in like now ? or now +/- something ?
22:06 mod6 eh, what time you got there right now? 22:05?
22:06 mircea_popescu it's 23:05 art
22:06 mod6 ah, ok. so figure between 21:00 and 23:30 art
22:06 mircea_popescu worx
22:07 mod6 which would be 19:00-21:30 cdt
22:07 mod6 might be a bit early for ben_vulpes, but he'll probably catch us on the tail end.
22:07 mircea_popescu lol that sounds porny
22:07 mod6 :D
22:08 ben_vulpes what is that in pst?
22:08 ben_vulpes i have an 0800 PST train
22:08 mircea_popescu ;;google 21:00 art to pst time
22:08 gribble PST to Argentina Time Converter -- TimeBie: <http://www.timebie.com/timezone/pacificargentina.php>; PST to EST (Pacific to Eastern Time) USA & Canada | Greenwich ...: <http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/to/pst/to-est>; Convert: Pacific Time to GMT | Greenwich Mean Time: <http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/convert/>
22:08 mircea_popescu fucking useless.
22:09 * asciilifeform is getting close to escaping butugychag
22:09 mircea_popescu o.O
22:09 danielpbarron i also hate those sites
22:09 danielpbarron ended ip adding agentina clock on my iphone
22:09 mod6 ok it's 19:10 / 7:10 pm there now ben_vulpes?
22:09 ben_vulpes same same ish tomorrow? might be hard.
22:09 ben_vulpes yeah, 1910
22:09 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes it's like 5 to 7pm
22:10 asciilifeform danielpbarron: it's 'new york' sans dst
22:10 mod6 so we're talking between 17:00 and 19:30 PDT
22:10 mod6 otherwise, i'm good if we wanna discuss someshit now for like 30 mins.
22:10 ben_vulpes i'm beating the streets of seattle for more work all weekend, but i'll try.
22:10 mircea_popescu eh wanted to give peeps a night to sleep on it anyway
22:11 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you actually go door to door ?!
22:11 mod6 basically, im just gonna end up creating a sandbox - inflate v054 from V, and throw in trinque's makefiles and start doing what needs doing.
22:11 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: in a sense. there's a $shitlang conference up there this weekend, and the meatwot has graciously coughed up some introductions.
22:11 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: clojure ?
22:12 ben_vulpes ah
22:12 ben_vulpes aha!
22:12 asciilifeform l0l!
22:12 mircea_popescu i thought clojure was $goodlang
22:12 ben_vulpes one of the $leastbadlangs
22:12 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: possibly for ben_vulpes , he works with some horrors from the bottom of the sea
22:13 asciilifeform not entirely unrelatedly, i got my first ever cobol recruiter pitch today.
22:13 ben_vulpes it's an entirely adequate lisp-alike on the jvm for webshit
22:13 mod6 bzzt
22:14 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i suppose if you don't need error handling..
22:14 asciilifeform or macros
22:14 mod6 who needs to handle errors anyway
22:14 ben_vulpes not even "a lisP"
22:14 asciilifeform or...
22:14 ben_vulpes a lips /alike/
22:14 ben_vulpes a gun to fire today.
22:14 ben_vulpes tentacles to wrap around the webstack today.
22:15 ben_vulpes but no, no error checking, compile-time inspection of funcall arity correctness, type management of any sort
22:15 mod6 hahah
22:15 ben_vulpes it is a miserably lazily implemented language.
22:16 asciilifeform l0l i did nit even know about the arity thing!
22:16 ben_vulpes you have no idea how miserable it is
22:16 asciilifeform holyfuq
22:16 ben_vulpes and then ask why
22:16 ben_vulpes "well because how would map know how many arguments it takes?"
22:16 ben_vulpes aliebgruakisjbdfkahwebfqwejhfba,jhsdfba
22:16 mod6 im gonna have to be like Hiro, quit this shitshoveling and start devivering pizza for CosaNostra
22:17 ben_vulpes i have yet to find anything /less/ painful for webwork.
22:18 mod6 once, i quit doing computer shit
22:18 mod6 for about 8 months, and spent time working nights in a tucson walmart in the ghetto
22:18 mod6 it was hilarious
22:18 mod6 for about ... 60 days
22:18 mod6 then it was just depressing
22:19 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: every time i dial the videophone into your favourite portland small usgtronics co., i think of you.
22:19 mod6 same lady, week after week buying the same full cart of vagicreme. same guys night after night wrestling over a spot in line at 01:59 am to see who would get sold the last 40
22:19 ben_vulpes they are very nice gentlemen
22:19 ben_vulpes just contracted us for another gig
22:19 ben_vulpes but before this thread slips away
22:19 asciilifeform mod6: you could have been the next lafonde!111
22:20 mod6 here's a matter of fact: no one pays with actual cash. ebt 4 everyone.
22:20 mod6 there's your tax dollars hard at work
22:20 asciilifeform mod6: perhaps that's specifically a lolmart thing?
22:20 mod6 i can't imagine it is at all.
22:20 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: pretty posh, aha
22:20 ben_vulpes i would vastly rather shovel this shit in my own office with my hand-selected brothers and sisters in arms than travel sixty minutes each direction to work on the once-every-two-years cool multiphysics projects $semicorp has on offer or 1.25 hours for the opportunity to labor in a machine shop with men who think boats are a good investment
22:21 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i met a few of'em in the flesh even, they came over
22:21 ben_vulpes nice folks
22:21 ben_vulpes "just want to do maf!"
22:21 ben_vulpes nevermind what the 'correct by construction' flight controller will be used for.
22:21 asciilifeform pretty sure one was on the winning side of alphago bet.
22:22 ben_vulpes other than that, hilariously inept at anything other than procuring usg dole or scaring innocent civilians with 'sekyoority' analysis
22:23 asciilifeform l0l i had no idea they sold anything to civs
22:23 asciilifeform not advertised at any rate
22:23 mod6 im not sure which is more depressing actually, shitshoveling in a jerva shitstack all day, or walmart. make me want to pitch a tent in Mr. P.'s garden instead and work on math machine, even if futile. would be more rewarding than the shit i do on an avg. work day
22:25 ben_vulpes i still labor under the delusion that i'll crap out something someone like myself will find useful that will pay for me to relax a bit.
22:25 ben_vulpes whatever, life and work suck.
22:25 ben_vulpes do it with people who don't.
22:25 ben_vulpes try to eke out a few dollars here and there.
22:26 asciilifeform i don't expect to ever relax. but currently exploring the idea of less-loathesome wurk
22:26 ben_vulpes lol less loathsome
22:26 ben_vulpes it's work, it sucks.
22:26 ben_vulpes various knobs to turn based on worker proclivities, that's all.
22:27 asciilifeform would settle for same misery but fewer unpaid hrs in iron box daily.
22:27 ben_vulpes 4 10's, kegs in the corner, 20-hr weeks, philosophy instead of working, dollars...
22:27 ben_vulpes what about greater misery?
22:28 ben_vulpes because motherfucking /tradeoffs/
22:28 asciilifeform if ben_vulpes knew what i do there!
22:28 ben_vulpes last i heard you were estimating algorthmic complexity of impossible cpp hairballs
22:28 ben_vulpes and not positioning divs
22:28 asciilifeform among other things.
22:29 asciilifeform positioning divs won't pay for asciilifeformtronics.
22:29 ben_vulpes not on its own, but as a necessary requisite.
22:29 ben_vulpes "yes, that falls in the set of things you can purchase here."
22:30 asciilifeform i admire ben_vulpes's talent for herding animals
22:30 ben_vulpes or, say, oauth integrations.
22:30 asciilifeform but i do not have it.
22:30 mod6 so in other news... yeah, tomorrow will work for me. i know trinque has been doing good work on deedbot etc lately, so I'll try hard not to bug him on the shit i gotta do.
22:31 ben_vulpes or, say, custom forms for donation-accepting nonprofits who need to collect additional data on the state's say-so.
22:31 ben_vulpes or excel -> geosearch tools
22:31 mod6 the main thing is; i've gotta get the makefiles in proper order, and basically, iirc, they already are real close.. but the thing I gotta work out is making a vpatch to add them to the source tree.
22:31 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: didn't some yc shartup purport to mechanize this?
22:32 asciilifeform (formz)
22:32 mod6 because, my thought here is, Mr. P. inflates bitcoin via V, and then `cd bitcoin ; make`
22:32 mod6 that's it. "make me my fathers pistol"
22:32 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: every payment processor has custom formage.
22:32 ben_vulpes but /which bolt/
22:33 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: iirc there was somebody pushing a form editor thing
22:33 * ben_vulpes shurgs
22:33 ben_vulpes how would i know, why would i care
22:33 * asciilifeform has profoundly nfi
22:33 ben_vulpes you think /i/ need help shitting out some tags?
22:33 ben_vulpes and it's not the tags
22:34 ben_vulpes it's the guiding them through the conversations with their auditor, department of revenue...
22:34 mod6 huh. so there's no way to make an interface to just bolt on these abortions 'eh?
22:34 ben_vulpes mod6: every payment processor has their own interface. but as mentioned above, the tech is almost entirely ancillary to figuring out what needs doing and piping the data round.
22:35 mod6 hm. but custom work pays ok then right?
22:35 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i do not envy you your wurk. it sounds like it includes a serious dose of hyoomaninteraction even.
22:35 mod6 "west cost choppers"
22:35 mod6 coast too
22:36 ben_vulpes mod6: custom work is all i do.
22:37 ben_vulpes pays decently, if very volatile.
22:37 asciilifeform ben_vulpes: where are the programmers who non-customwork, l0l
22:37 mod6 beats working at walmart
22:37 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: beats me! just answering the question.
22:37 asciilifeform 'we wrote this same proggy 10,001st time!'
22:38 mod6 except for the $12 bj's. that's a decent perk
22:38 ben_vulpes asciilifeform: yes, human interaction. i'm a derpy american business-ish hustler who also does software as it pertains to the /businesses/.
22:39 asciilifeform 13333337
22:39 ben_vulpes documentation generation for a 747 retrofitter at one point
22:39 ben_vulpes hilariously overdelivered on that one
22:40 asciilifeform i mostly just mutter incantations, prayers against drought, evil eye
22:40 ben_vulpes system works so well they never needed a hand afterwards
22:40 ben_vulpes great testimonial though
22:40 ben_vulpes software qua software is a mystery to me, asciilifeform.
22:40 mod6 mircea_popescu: anyway, re: retooling to ada; I think my overall thought was, get v054 complete, in its classic form. Then move along to ada perhaps. But then there's still the question surrounding your suggested changes. Should be done in cpp ala classic? Or full re-write including your changes?
22:41 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> i don't expect to ever relax. but currently exploring the idea of less-loathesome wurk << Seriously try Home Depot
22:41 mod6 Say that the reward half is in july... seems hard to figure we could have anything meaningful written in ada by then at all.
22:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: been drinkin'?
22:41 mod6 ;;rewardhalf
22:41 gribble Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
22:41 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Nah
22:41 mod6 goddamnit
22:41 BingoBoingo Still sober
22:42 mod6 ;;bc,halfreward
22:42 gribble Error: "bc,halfreward" is not a valid command.
22:42 asciilifeform or did they add a zero to the wage while i wasn't looking
22:42 mod6 ;;bc,rewardhalf
22:42 gribble Error: "bc,rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
22:42 mod6 X_X
22:42 mod6 ;;halfreward
22:42 gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Tue Jul 12 01:22:13 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 12 weeks, 4 days, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds.
22:42 BingoBoingo Just suggesting an employer who can give alfdog fiat and who is hiring this time of year.
22:42 mod6 July 12th, mother of god
22:42 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i got one of those already
22:43 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Far less USG tronic.
22:43 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: interested strictly in >= wage for < time on the stake.
22:43 BingoBoingo You can even move to other corners of Mordor!
22:43 BingoBoingo That's like > wage
22:43 asciilifeform and defo not interested in physically showing up anywhere.
22:44 asciilifeform or seeing motherfuking faces
22:45 ben_vulpes there's also the local amazon subsidiary
22:45 ben_vulpes http://www.elementaltechnologies.com/company/careers/open-positions
22:45 BingoBoingo Prolly more popescutronic girls there than rupture farms
22:45 asciilifeform i've thought about learning to operate a tower crane.
22:45 ben_vulpes underwater welding!
22:45 mircea_popescu mod6 i have nfi, prolly part of what to discuss.
22:46 mod6 werd
22:46 asciilifeform no filthy hyoomans in the crane cabin.
22:46 BingoBoingo If you stay at home depot long enough you can get your lift truck license
22:46 * mod6 imagines alf in the control box
22:46 BingoBoingo Come on alf, live the orange life.
22:46 ben_vulpes i really admire this nest of constraints you've put up, asciilifeform
22:46 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: understand why it has to be a tower crane.
22:46 BingoBoingo Why?
22:47 ben_vulpes it is precisely the opposite of adaptive
22:47 asciilifeform because the cabin holds 1.
22:47 BingoBoingo How confident are you about that?
22:47 asciilifeform and is 200 metres up in the air.
22:47 mod6 i feel like alf could live like ted kaczynski in the woods just fine.
22:47 mircea_popescu mod6 i don't see him hunting and prepping any food.
22:47 mod6 only needs an axe, flint, steel and a matchbook calculator
22:47 BingoBoingo Nah, alf needs his fiber internet.
22:48 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: pretty confident, there is a crane outside of my office window, i look into the cabin every day.
22:48 asciilifeform with some envy.
22:48 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that;s the advertising crane.
22:48 BingoBoingo Ohterwise alf has said mod6 that he would be pashtun dog.
22:48 mircea_popescu the real work crane hosts 3 and they sit on the same chair.
22:48 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: aaaaaahahaha
22:48 * asciilifeform falls down
22:48 BingoBoingo $b 3
22:48 deedbot $b 3 is not a command.
22:48 mircea_popescu "break's over, move to work cabin"
22:49 asciilifeform these very same cranez will turn up,mi am quite certain, if i ever get near that wurk.
22:49 mircea_popescu incidentaly, what do those people do when they need to pee ?
22:49 asciilifeform there is a pissoir up there
22:49 asciilifeform right on the gib
22:50 mod6 but, alf seems to know something about rabbit stew; with a decent shotgun, small game is easy.
22:50 BingoBoingo when alf starts foley catheter
22:50 mod6 a man learns when he's hungry
22:50 mircea_popescu mod6 still have to prep it.
22:50 asciilifeform i have nothing against preparing phood
22:50 asciilifeform speaking of which, brb
22:50 mod6 :]
22:50 mircea_popescu you ever took a live animal and turned it into steaks ?
22:50 BingoBoingo alf draws workman's comp from tower crane induced UTI
22:51 BingoBoingo ;;ud UTI
22:51 gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=UTI | Top Definition. UTI. A painful infection in your bladder where you feel like you have to pee all the time and when you do go to pee barely anything comes out.
22:51 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo btw, know what is difference between gynecologist and bee-dog ?
22:51 BingoBoingo No, I have noes idears
22:51 mircea_popescu they both have wet noses.
22:51 BingoBoingo lol
22:52 BingoBoingo brb
22:52 mod6 me? i've done a deer a few times
22:52 mircea_popescu not you, him. you, i can tell.
22:52 mod6 it helps when its cold out, this is for sure.
22:53 mircea_popescu yeh.
22:53 mircea_popescu worst time i ever had hunting, we got a decent boar
22:54 mircea_popescu spent hour and half dragging it around trying to find place with no anthills within five feet
22:54 mircea_popescu fucking nigthmare the damned shits, like they were everywhere
22:55 mod6 oh yeah
22:56 mod6 those are huge
22:56 mircea_popescu and you know, boar weighs about the same as a large number of sacks of potatoes
22:56 mod6 i do clean my own phesants, about 50 per year. but thats easy, and a lot different than a large animal.
22:56 mircea_popescu well a pheasant you're done with in what, 15 minutes solo
22:56 mod6 oh yeah, they have wild boar in tucson. they'll eat anything.
22:56 mod6 oh yeah, like 5 minutes.
22:57 mircea_popescu but this thing you really need 2-3 people and ideally you know, an hour or so undisturbed
22:57 mod6 i feel like i wanna learn how to butcher cattle.
22:57 mod6 or hogs
22:57 mircea_popescu cattle, you definitely should come to argentina.
22:57 mircea_popescu possibly best butchers i've ever seen.
22:58 mod6 its a lost skill up here for the most part.
22:58 mircea_popescu half of these guys look like they really shoulda been in surgery.
22:58 mod6 used to be here every small town had a guy, and you didnt fuck with him
23:00 mod6 ok, so anyway, i'll ponder some things tonight and tomorrow, and we'll discuss more.
23:00 mircea_popescu cool
~ 23 minutes ~
23:23 asciilifeform i dun have any experience with preparing freshly caught carcass larger than a fish. but - unlike www stack - would enjoy learning this.
23:26 asciilifeform sadly, where i live, this is something only rich, or at least well-leisured folks, can access.
23:27 asciilifeform but perhaps one day i will visit mod6 and ben_vulpes and they might teach me to correctly dismember a boar into sausages.
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