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00:00 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287799 << yeah, on the grounds of having been built for reasonably well off / middle class people in the... 1920s.
00:00 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 19:32:23; ascii_field: tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s
00:01 mircea_popescu whatch five fucking minutes from the beginning "Band wagon" with fred astaire to get a fucking idea of what life in america still was, in the 50s.
00:02 mircea_popescu hint : dude travels ON THE TRAIN with a pile of luggage. he tells the porter to take it all and put it in a cab and send it at so and so hotel. because he's a dude in the suit traveling solo and can't be bothered to lift anything heavier than his hat
00:02 mircea_popescu and the entire society is organised around this notion.
00:02 mircea_popescu today fucking airlines can't as much as not forever lose your bags, let alone SEND PEOPLE TO PICK THEM UP FROM YOUR FUCKING CAB!!!!
00:03 mircea_popescu (except in turkey, where they do, and for this reason alone the united states should be a subject state of istanbul!)
00:03 mircea_popescu fucking bullshit world where i have to have valet slavegirls because everyone in it is an imbecile.
00:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18370 @ 0.00068223 = 12.5326 BTC [-]
00:07 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287810 << ahahah. also as to the praxis, "Superfluous redundancy" :D
00:07 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 19:34:09; phf: жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice
00:09 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287814 << not true, greeks invented that one.
00:09 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 19:37:55; jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
00:10 mircea_popescu red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.
00:14 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287823 << you know it was just b-a of the 1800s.
00:14 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 19:43:58; phf: ^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"
00:17 * BingoBoingo kinda worries for the #b-a of the 2130's
00:18 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW5n64zFO-Q << lolz. compare and contrast with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu277VhDdW4
00:18 assbot "RIDING the GOAT" Very strange Fraternal Lodge Initiation, 1928. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmarwS )
00:18 assbot Sexiest Mechanical Bull Ride - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmarwU )
00:18 mircea_popescu easily a paragon of womanhood. above any big tits, hips, legs, blabla.
00:18 mircea_popescu can do that, is a woman. can't do that, has shit to learn yet.
00:20 mircea_popescu her fucking ankles aren't even touching. thighs an' that's it.
00:31 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
00:31 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 237.14, vol: 17191.29334113 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 236.295, vol: 6093.89029 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 238.7, vol: 8365.56644987 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 260.0, vol: 1.91594316 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 242.242, vol: 26981.18780000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 236.136, vol: 68.22471848 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 241.93748, vol: 47.59175733 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
00:31 BingoBoingo ;;more
00:31 gribble 239.621079249
00:32 mircea_popescu But, somehow, when we mention it, he wears a look so grim we wonder if he rode the goat ---- or if the goat rode him!
00:32 mircea_popescu ahahaha that's alright.
00:33 BingoBoingo It isn't called "horny goat weed" for nothing
00:34 mircea_popescu manifestly.
00:35 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287842 << of some interest would perhaps be what you yourself mean when you say "von neuman architecture".
00:35 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 20:04:37; thestringpuller: ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?
00:36 mircea_popescu and no, i'm not asking what alf means. i know what he means.
00:41 mircea_popescu also asciilifeform might enjoy http://uncouthreflections.com/2015/09/28/the-real-problem-of-sexual-assault-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-32725 discussion
00:41 assbot The Real Problem of Sexual Assault on Campus? | Uncouth Reflections ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmbAob )
00:42 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287873 << they can't, just, idiots put up with it.
00:42 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 20:14:50; ascii_field: where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN
00:42 mircea_popescu and yes they should rub it in. more every day, that's the only way the worms will get the point.
00:42 mircea_popescu this, incidentally, is the one thing the usg does right.
00:42 mircea_popescu the only just desserts of a castrated population is the humiliation ratchet.
00:43 mircea_popescu when boys start listening to their moms and acting with "common decency", the one thing they get is their asshole fucked like it were a pussy.
00:43 mircea_popescu because in fact it is.
00:46 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287879 << see, the subtle differences make the difference. no, that's not what i say.
00:46 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 20:16:54; ascii_field: and since mircea_popescu appears to be sleeping, i will have to fill in for him and say 'this is what usians get for not being pashtuns!' aha.
00:47 mircea_popescu "usian" isn't a thing to be.
00:47 mircea_popescu not anymore than fat acceptance is a thing to do.
00:48 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287899 << dude this is like the "oh show me a rothschild" nonsense.
00:48 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 20:23:15; ascii_field: thestringpuller: notice that ~exclusively~ local/municipal police are ever killed. as to why: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456
00:49 mircea_popescu everyone in usg gets killed all the fucking time
00:49 mircea_popescu scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.
00:49 mircea_popescu nobody is immune.
00:49 mircea_popescu they know this themselves.
00:49 mircea_popescu and here you come with bizarro world fantasies.
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02:21 BingoBoingo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3254318/American-woman-s-bizarre-Vegemite-racist-YouTube-rant.html
02:21 assbot US woman posts #banvegemite rant online because she thinks the spread is racist | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1jx8pZX )
02:22 BingoBoingo ‘Ever since the 1950s-or whatever-vegemite has been a way to symbolically make white Australians feel superior to Aboriginals by literally eating their f*****g skin in a jar.’
02:27 cazalla hate to admit it, but there is little more i enjoy that butter soaked bread with an inch thick spread of vegemite
02:27 cazalla than*
02:28 cazalla shit BingoBoingo that video is from July https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDAOodylljM
02:28 assbot Eating Vegemite is racist towards Aboriginals - because it is black - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1jx9kcK )
02:28 BingoBoingo Isn't vegemite just failed beer?
02:29 mircea_popescu you can't eat foods that have a color now ?
02:29 mircea_popescu tofu is fucking white.
02:30 mircea_popescu in other news, the female herding behaviour. (the practitioners refer it as "protecting", because totally, there's so much that wrinkly ass can protect from and so very much protection teh young slut needs.) http://41.media.tumblr.com/1fae76d2e368184cb8f67fd935a7190d/tumblr_nq3h28JcX41s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg
02:30 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBG3CF )
02:30 cazalla s'gotta be a troll
02:34 punkman the mech-bull is a stand-in for a sybian right?
02:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00068651 = 4.5996 BTC [-] {3}
02:40 mircea_popescu notrly.
02:42 mircea_popescu but, to quote older material, http://trilema.com/2011/erotoghid-pentru-femeia-adulta/#selection-41.381-41.509
02:42 assbot Erotoghid pentru femeia adulta on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxb0Dg )
02:42 mircea_popescu "a woman that can not use her own body to extemporaneously exemplify grace has scant changes to sexual fulfillment".
02:43 punkman chick was pretty good, most derps on youtube try to hold on using only their hands
02:43 mircea_popescu yup.
02:43 mircea_popescu the reason she's so good is because she puts no work into it whatsoever. just absorbs the bull with minimal friction.
02:43 mircea_popescu this happens to be a perfectly fine (if negative) definition of gracefulness, and thus a fine way to measure it.
02:44 punkman plenty of friction between bull and vulva
02:45 mircea_popescu notrly.
02:45 mircea_popescu (the reason the thigh gap exists, anatomically, is exactly to provide insulation from work friction as seen there. her cunt's in the air throughout)
02:47 mircea_popescu also the mechanical bull is specifically designed to defeat men, which is to say, humans who use force to compensate for a lack of gracefulness.
02:47 mircea_popescu the thing with using force is that your muscles are dual controlled, there's a fine and a gross motor innervation.
02:48 mircea_popescu as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control
02:49 mircea_popescu (whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control)
02:49 mircea_popescu and as the rider becomes unable to exercise fine control, he becomes unable to maintain balance.
02:49 mircea_popescu as errors compound.
02:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.0006915 = 6.6695 BTC [+]
02:54 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3008 << "The cops do not want you to die—as that brings major heat. They just want to shoot you so that they can feel better about not winning any fights back in high school. Dude, your hoodrat carcass is a pain in the ass to everyone, except for your mamma, who just won the "hatched a got-shot hoodrat" lottery, and will be cashing in on your dumbass."
02:54 assbot JL: The Ghetto at A Glance ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBIlBT )
02:55 mircea_popescu it's not clear that an injured and disabled hoodrat is better.
02:56 BingoBoingo At the present it is. As the Insurance to pay injured and disabled hoodrats bezzel depletes...
02:57 mircea_popescu somewhat unrelatedly,
02:57 mircea_popescu "On 23 August 1927, Sacco and Vanzetti were executed; in response, a 24-hour general strike was proclaimed in Buenos Aires, as well as many other capitals of the world. Several days after the executions, Di Giovanni received a letter from Sacco's widow, which thanked him for his work, and informing him that the director of the tobacco firm Combinados had proposed her a contract to produce a cigarette brand named "Sacco
02:57 mircea_popescu & Vanzetti". On 26 November 1927, Di Giovanni and his comrades duly bombed Bernardo Gurevich's tobacco shop Combinados on Rivadavia 2279."
02:59 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> (whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control) << Glycogen and ATP depletion. The nerves fire, but the only muscle movements possible are less precise.
02:59 BingoBoingo Leading too <mircea_popescu> as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control
03:00 mircea_popescu and na/k imbalance and a bunch of other chemical issues yes.
03:00 punkman do the argentines still celebrate Sacco and Vanzetti?
03:00 mircea_popescu i doubt there's any argentine under 60 that has any fucking idea wtf brand of sardines that was.
03:01 BingoBoingo na/k imbalance less of an issue unless sweating and the sweat is being separated from the skin.
03:01 mircea_popescu "old school" hipsterism is being a communist nowadays.
03:02 BingoBoingo Peak reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/3mxaaf/nsfwnsfltriggers_dated_by_a_ham_exploited_by_a/
03:02 assbot reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBJ5a1 )
03:04 mircea_popescu also http://40.media.tumblr.com/9a816f4ccf8ffb2841fcca3a19df351d/tumblr_nq3fla6Mi81s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg
03:04 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxdPUB )
03:10 BingoBoingo "Why was there poop in your shower ?"
03:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00068337 = 19.4077 BTC [-] {3}
03:13 BingoBoingo Also... Tesla Motors just unveiled a hatchback...
03:14 BingoBoingo And at 5,400 pounds it outweighs a lot of trucks...
03:14 BingoBoingo It's an electric fucking vehicle with a 550 watt stereo
03:16 mircea_popescu this nonsense of "we wanna be more energy efificent so we're dragging tons of worthless electricity storage around" is getting ever more ridiculous.
03:17 BingoBoingo Seriously might as well have a car with an RTG
03:17 mircea_popescu "why carry two barrels of gasoline around worth 10 mega-fucking-joules
03:17 mircea_popescu when you could achieve the same effect with two and a half tons worth of lithium poison
03:18 BingoBoingo Range is still only 250 miles, but prolly less if you turn up that stereo
03:19 punkman maybe the stereo runs on gasoline
03:19 BingoBoingo They promise though that if it rolls over "It will land on its feet" because... batteries go under drivers ass and the car's body
03:19 mircea_popescu ahahahaha punkman wins all of the bashes.
03:19 mircea_popescu !b 10
03:19 assbot Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0KRRD1D.txt )
03:20 mircea_popescu incidentally, i wonder how many actually remember the important role of the bash function in the development of later crucial bits of infrastructure.
03:20 BingoBoingo On the one plus though it seems that HAD to bring back body on frame construction... I mean seriously... No way they would do something like this as a unibody...
03:20 mircea_popescu it's altogether unclear to me how long we'd have taken to figure out the dpaste deedbot- mechanism if there wasn't this dpaste thing for bashes
03:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00068223 = 12.6213 BTC [-]
03:25 BingoBoingo Prolly 2017
03:26 HeySteve deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3J8V5NY
03:26 assbot dpaste: 3J8V5NY: stevekey, by steve ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxgvSe )
03:26 deedbot- Bad URL or network outage.
03:27 HeySteve deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3J8V5NY.txt
03:27 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxgGNk )
03:27 deedbot- imported: 5082594B795298BD62A00F4CAA5C799D12DAF5C6
03:28 BingoBoingo Seriously though tubular titanium frame (carbon fiber shatters and no weight budget for containment, acrylic windshield, 100lb RTG, motor, plastic seat, passenger weight limit. Electricity generated at rest goes into home mains or rave lights. Top speed 25 mph.
03:28 BingoBoingo Achieve top speed by going downhill.
03:28 mircea_popescu top speed 25mph ?!
03:31 BingoBoingo Goind downhill, kicking the ground Flinstones style occasionaly
03:31 BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/09/windows-truecrypt-fatally-flawed/#comment-62477
03:31 assbot Windows TrueCrypt Fatally Flawed | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBM7uU )
03:31 BingoBoingo Very big hill required
03:32 punkman and then you tow it back up the hill with a VW?
03:33 BingoBoingo Nah uphill you go 1/2 mhp, or push it up like a self propelled lawn mower.
03:34 mircea_popescu https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1981-149-34A%2C_Russland%2C_Herausziehen_eines_Autos.jpg <<< usg dept of human disservices THIS CLOSE to catching up to third reich technologees.
03:34 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxhCRV )
03:34 BingoBoingo On the plus side brag that you've had to buy tires more often than you've had to refuel
03:36 mircea_popescu not so unlike bragging that you buy way more tissues than condoms.
03:37 BingoBoingo More the opposites. Condoms cost more than tissues per load expended.
03:38 BingoBoingo Plutonium-238 is expensive.
03:38 mircea_popescu hm
03:40 HeySteve BingoBoingo just agree to build a bomb for some Iranians, take their Plutonium and give them back a shell full of used pinball parts
03:40 BingoBoingo Then again Government Motors sells new Chevy Suburbans for the price of a modest Suburban house because cognitively paying that much for huge vehicle is cognitively less expensive than recognizing one let themselves get huge and doing something about it.
03:41 mircea_popescu I watcher her eat a whole appetizer at a mexican restaurant along with an entree dish and a combo platter as her side. <<< ftr /me does this all the fucking time.
03:41 BingoBoingo HeySteve: Wrong isotope. That's plutonium 239. Absolute shit for an RTG, doesn't get hot enough.
03:41 mircea_popescu there are people still walking around who watched me eat TWO full steaks for breakfast in alabama.
03:41 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You fuck the energy out though, and... walk places...
03:41 mircea_popescu black mamie-type waitress could not fucking believe the skinny white boy finished the first one, it was the size of her bosom.
03:42 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i guess that does it huh
03:42 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I mean you have to figure the average reddit-mate gets a parking placard for their Autism and never has to walk more than 40 ft at a time again.
03:43 mircea_popescu you should have seen the fucking disbelief on this middle aged woman i asked for directions yest. she was "you gotta take the colectivo, that's like... very far. it's unthinkably far. it's like... at least 50 blocks".
03:43 BingoBoingo lol
03:43 mircea_popescu wtf woman, so you walk for a coupla hours. what of it.
03:43 mircea_popescu splendid weather in ba too, like 20 degrees, pleasant sun down here.
03:44 mircea_popescu anyway, the city blocks here are reasonably scammy, there's like 10, even 20 to a mile.
03:44 BingoBoingo Last night it was drizzling yet pleasant temperature so went to take a short walk. half a kilometer out started raining hard by no wind or lightening so figured I'd enjoy the sidewalks to myself.
03:45 BingoBoingo Fuck even in small town here only fit 4-8 blocks to the mile.
03:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00068223 = 8.255 BTC [-]
03:46 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah, in the 4 blocks to the mile world her disbelief'd be a lot more at home, but ba is way denser than that.
03:46 mircea_popescu in fact i did cover the distance (naon 3500 to corrientes ~7k) in about an hour give or take.
03:48 mircea_popescu "When she's done I take her back to my place and initiate foreplay because I have to fucking get swabs if I want optimal prophylactic medical treatment for my dick area."
03:48 mircea_popescu dude is fucking obnoxious srsly.
03:48 mircea_popescu he actually expects sympathy for that pile of nonsense ?
03:49 BingoBoingo Seriously, like peak fucking reddit narcisism.
03:49 BingoBoingo ANd yet check those comments.
03:49 mircea_popescu myeah. apparently dad never told him you're supposed to be charitable with women on the first date ?
03:49 BingoBoingo Reddit/Murica/Democracy is broken.
03:49 mircea_popescu "The smell was far worse mostly sober, but through a lot of "hand"iwork I was able to get three months of doxycycline and bactrim along with fluconazole and a single dose of some weird IV shit and an ointment. "
03:50 mircea_popescu srsly ?!
03:50 mircea_popescu THREE MONTHS of doxycycline ? AS A PROPHYLACTIC ?
03:50 mircea_popescu for something that can't even happen ?
03:50 BingoBoingo Almost seems like a troll post to see how... Retarded Retardid is...
03:51 mircea_popescu i would hope so.
03:51 mircea_popescu can you even take doxycycline for three months straight ?
03:51 BingoBoingo Prolly, but... imagine c diff and worse would follow.
03:52 mircea_popescu this is like...
03:52 mircea_popescu tb courses are six weeks. pneumo courses are four weeks.
03:52 mircea_popescu what the fuck is fourteen weeks for.
03:53 BingoBoingo If that long. At that point they'd use another drug.
03:53 mircea_popescu when sigounrey weaver fucked that alien she didn't get 14 weeks of medicine for it.
03:53 * BingoBoingo confesses he posted the work of fiction to see how retarded reddit in general is
03:54 mircea_popescu hahaha what ?
03:54 mircea_popescu omfg stub nuts
03:54 mircea_popescu dat was you ?
03:54 BingoBoingo I put together all of their tropes into a horror story.
03:54 BingoBoingo Yes you caught my shill account.
03:55 BingoBoingo Because reddit is outside the Republic, needs fucked with.
03:55 mircea_popescu dude who're you fooling. this was that pinoy mail order bride wasn't it.
03:55 BingoBoingo Mebbe
03:55 mircea_popescu lol
03:56 mircea_popescu somehow this enhances the amusement.]
03:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18656 @ 0.00068175 = 12.7187 BTC [-] {3}
03:56 BingoBoingo It's actually what I think about the Tesla Model X
03:56 mircea_popescu "Bonus: The part where I was turned off by her weight turned her on. I have never felt more sexually vulnerable in my life than in the aftermath, thank god nothing was viral." <<< lolz.
03:57 BingoBoingo Since it wouldn't be wort diluting qntra shares over a derpy hatchback I decided to try writing reddit soup.
03:57 mircea_popescu "Being fat is a huge red flag for mental illness and disease." << this is actually true.
03:57 BingoBoingo It is
03:58 mircea_popescu being fat is a huge red flag for mental illness.
03:58 BingoBoingo And other disease.
03:59 mircea_popescu myeah, kinda hard to stay healthy if overweight.
03:59 mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/3mxaaf/nsfwnsfltriggers_dated_by_a_ham_exploited_by_a/cvj1zfm
03:59 assbot reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxkVbJ )
03:59 BingoBoingo I mean even bidets don't have the pressure to get everything down there if one is shitting 'Murican sugah shits
03:59 mircea_popescu ahahaha. somehow i know the answer to that question.
04:00 mircea_popescu clearly b-a was integral to my well rounded practical education.
04:00 BingoBoingo Gotta include known parts of their folklore
04:01 mircea_popescu check it out, someone there knows the answer.
04:01 mircea_popescu you know, i think we're watching a meme being born. some nutty reddit comment, probably ALSO from a fake acct,
04:01 mircea_popescu now you kited it
04:01 mircea_popescu and by next week it's gonna be "fat people are notorious for doing" something no fat person probably ever did before.
04:02 BingoBoingo I wasn't the account with the answer. I started a fire, but not that fire.
04:03 mircea_popescu yeah but...
04:04 BingoBoingo I mean you gotta figure... If your shit is too sticky for a bidet... The shower offers greater pressure...
04:04 BingoBoingo Then again hose showers aren't really a 'Murican thing
04:06 BingoBoingo -mquin- [Global Notice] On or around Friday, October 2nd we will be cleaning up the services database. Now's a good time to ensure you identify to services when connecting. Check out http://blog.freenode.net/2015/09/services-database-purge/ << Prolly a good time for people with near perma-connected bouncers to login and log off because Freenode tracks last login time...
04:06 assbot Services database purge | staffblog ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxlPVU )
04:08 BingoBoingo And seriously. Is there such a thing as a REAL reddit account?
04:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8092 @ 0.00068077 = 5.5088 BTC [-]
04:08 BingoBoingo At least after 2007 or so.
04:10 mircea_popescu possibily not.
04:11 BingoBoingo I don't see any Reddit accounts in deedbot
04:13 BingoBoingo Also the original different purpose altchain has some bsns http://blog.namecoin.org/post/130158040415/onenames-blockstore-is-much-less-secure-than
04:13 assbot Namecoin News & Developer Blog — OneName’s Blockstore is much less secure than... ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxmPcC )
04:14 HeySteve about deedbot, I don't quite get the hashing as privkey thing, what is the purpose?
04:14 BingoBoingo Namecoin's not exactly a critical piece of infrastructure but it seems to have been shitgnomed
04:14 BingoBoingo <HeySteve> about deedbot, I don't quite get the hashing as privkey thing, what is the purpose? << To get spent from, it is the ultimate verification
04:18 * BingoBoingo goes to bread hopes everyone was sufficiently triggered
04:30 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287904 << except maryland wasn't one of them.
04:30 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 20:25:00; ascii_field: notice how the latest wave of 'OMG!!11!!1!!policebrutality!11!!1livezmatter!!11' began with... several states proclaiming intent to arrest federal law enforcers in some cases
04:34 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287944 << pretty cool actually.
04:34 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 20:54:00; phf: i added eatbulk to bitcoind that takes a folder with blk dat files and eats them in order, provisioning the node at the moment. pointless graphs time! http://glyf.org/tmp/height-time.png hours vs block height, http://glyf.org/tmp/height-delta.png block height vs delay from previous ACCEPTED
04:42 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1287999 << perhaps of interest http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2013#28723 and certainly of interest http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2013#349854
04:42 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 00:27:08; jurov: ..aaand http://www.itworld.com/article/2987438/newly-found-truecrypt-flaw-allows-full-system-compromise.html
04:42 assbot Logged on 14-05-2013 02:03:43; mircea_popescu: "I haven't nor will I ask for donations. This truly sucks for me, but I only want to find out how this happened. I wish I could see the code/method used for educational purposes. Fuck people who steal. I strive for bitcoins and litecoins to gain popularity among the masses and become an accepted currency in societies eyes."
04:42 assbot Logged on 13-10-2013 20:20:24; mircea_popescu: without going into all the ways truecrypt is broken and etc, which i don't feel i have the energy for
04:42 mircea_popescu or for that matter http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2013#28814
04:42 assbot Logged on 14-05-2013 02:25:44; mircea_popescu: my impression of the general truecrypt population is that they're not particularly more secure than average
04:46 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288003 << incidentally, this happens to be the killer app for derpage a la "automated contracts" or whatever they call colored coins by now.
04:46 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 00:39:53; jurov: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/
04:46 mircea_popescu course the 20 yo geniuses involved have nfi of anything so they don't know this either, but whatever.
04:51 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288037 << what part of math is thereby contradicted ?
04:51 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 02:23:13; mike_c: bitbettors can't do math. if trump is 50/50, why is jeb 5:1 to win? https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/
04:51 * BingoBoingo had a hypnagogic realization every good internet meme has started with a troll. Also prime numbers ending in 3 where 3 is not preceded by 2 are mauve.
04:51 BingoBoingo back to bed
04:51 mircea_popescu oh wait, 5:1 the other way lol
04:52 mircea_popescu bet's new, prolly not covered yet.
04:58 mircea_popescu also, http://36.media.tumblr.com/a609ac02f340aece2446717186a369ad/tumblr_nlbro03X7p1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg
04:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KR6Xs5 )
05:05 davout mircea_popescu: tbf i'd probably advertise x.eur a bit more if i didn't have to wait days for x.eur holder statements
05:06 mircea_popescu you never had to wait all that much once you asked for 'em!
05:06 mircea_popescu i'm ... mefiant of too automated systems.
05:07 davout the point is i really shouldn't have to ask
05:07 davout i'm not saying it has to be automated
05:07 mircea_popescu i can't in good conscience propose that the contract may be renewed when i've not even heard from you.
05:08 mircea_popescu this may even be ridiculous, but it's still what i'm stuck with.
05:08 mircea_popescu there must be a minimum of attention available. it is perhaps true that if you didn't even have to show up once a mnonth for it you'd have more attention available to promote the thing. it is an unpersuasive theory.
05:10 davout nobody is proposing the contract should be renewed, the contract itself is here, stands and describes the instrument, that's how i read it
05:11 davout "2.3. Settlement. Upon the Settlement Date, which shall be the 15th day of every month at noon GMT,"
05:11 davout "(a) The Exchange will compile a list of all contract holders, identifying their registered GPG signatures and the number of contracts held, encrypt this list and forward it to the Market Maker."
05:13 mircea_popescu you seriously propose that going "oh hai" once a month is too much service here ?
05:14 davout is that what i'm proposing?
05:15 mircea_popescu best i can tell.
05:17 mircea_popescu for instance : last month, the stuff went unrenewed for about two weeks. two weeks during which you didn't complain about the matter. this, not because I didn't notice. i had noticed. i was actually getting ready to announce that the x.eur thing is discontinued.
05:17 mircea_popescu the moral of that experience isn't to complain at me that you weren't around for a while. the moral of that experience is to be around. it is after all your flagship product as far as i can tell. treat it like it were.
05:18 mircea_popescu and yes this includes scheduling your vacations, divorces and funerals around the 15th of the month. it's that important.
05:24 mircea_popescu and since we're talking about things : http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/09/07/bitcoin-startup-paymium-raised-e1-million-in-seed-funding/ << this i read about in "newsbtc" ? because why ?
05:24 assbot Bitcoin Startup Paymium Raised €1 Million in Seed Funding - NEWSBTC ... ( http://bit.ly/1KR8dLN )
05:27 davout what i'm proposing is that the contract is pretty clear, and that me hanging around #b-a and keeping up with it, is important, but nonetheless absolutely orthogonal with it.
05:28 davout if you want to make me requesting x.eur holders list a part of the process that's fine, we'll update the contract
05:29 mircea_popescu i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training.
05:30 mircea_popescu so if you're wondering where the X is, as you should be wondering at any point after noon on the 15th, and it occurs to you we've prolly not heard anything from you in weeks, one of the simplest solutions is to fix it ad hoc, and one of the better solutions is to fix whatsoever fundamental problems that led to your misallocation of time towards reddit or w/e the fuck. because otherwise the rift this allows is bound to
05:30 mircea_popescu grow, and eventually tear things apart.
05:30 mircea_popescu maybe i got special mental needs or something, but to me all this seems obvious.
05:32 mircea_popescu and i still dunno why if im friends with the cto of some company i gotta read from random spamsite about financing events at some company.
05:32 mircea_popescu i can't even follow how or why this seemed like a good idea.
05:38 davout thought i had talked about it in-chan, guess i didn't
05:40 mircea_popescu i love you but dun go tramplin' on my feelin's!!!
05:46 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.000685 = 15.207 BTC [+]
05:50 mircea_popescu re the entire "shower pooping" thing, http://biznology.com/2012/02/how-paul-m-barrett-won-over-message-boards/
05:50 assbot Attention Required! | CloudFlare ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFMj40 )
05:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11607 @ 0.00068077 = 7.9017 BTC [-]
05:57 davout mircea_popescu: "one of the simplest solutions is to fix it ad hoc" <<< precisely what's been happening
05:57 mircea_popescu aha
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06:35 punkman http://dpaste.com/1YTZT28 heh
06:35 assbot dpaste: 1YTZT28 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KRewxS )
06:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10520 @ 0.000685 = 7.2062 BTC [+]
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07:12 deedbot- [Trilema] How the world worked back when the world worked - http://trilema.com/2015/how-the-world-worked-back-when-the-world-worked/
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07:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52500 @ 0.00068469 = 35.9462 BTC [-] {2}
07:54 jurov davout rly? i had to wait 2 weeks for my x.eur delivery because yoou were.. pouting?
08:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.000685 = 3.3908 BTC [+]
08:08 davout jurov: pouting?
08:08 jurov why else did you wait?
08:09 jurov i have to ask mircea for stuff too... but it's 3-4 days max
08:10 davout what do you mean?
08:11 jurov he does not process mpex deposits or withdrawals automatically, must be asked to often
08:11 jurov i ask after 3-4 days max
08:12 jurov and can't understand why would you wait 2 weeks
08:12 davout never waited two weeks
08:13 jurov so what happened? you asked, but he did ntohing?
08:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13704 @ 0.000685 = 9.3872 BTC [+]
08:14 davout i asked for september's settlement holders list on sept 21, and I got it shortly afterwards, and you were delivered shortly after that
08:16 jurov oh.. nevermind
08:17 davout that i have to ask, despite the contract clearly saying the exact opposite is something that is apparently obvious to everyone but me
08:18 davout in direct contradiction of 4.1 of said contract, btw
08:20 davout anyway, the fact that deliveries actually occur in much less than two weeks(tm) is what ultimately matters to me
08:20 jurov i think mp was talking about 2.4 d .. that "tacit agreement" means you being around and alive
08:22 davout i read "tacit" as "not requiring being explicit about it" not much more
08:24 jurov time to clarify, i guess
08:25 davout to me, the "davout is dead or unresponsive" case is covered by the "market maker's deposit"-related parts
08:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00068113 = 2.6224 BTC [-]
08:27 davout jurov: i think everyone's thoughts are pretty clear now
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09:06 funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287990 <-- it is a bit odd to focus on planned parenthood and not the nazi connection dontcha think?
09:06 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 23:42:10; BingoBoingo: http://m.snopes.com/prescott-bush-planned-parenthood/
09:06 funkenstein_ and damn that ICD-10 or whatever AMA idiocy you linked BingoBoingo was an eye opener. Official policy appears to be that top level doctors and surgeons are to be treated like morons.
09:07 funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288078 <-- sure I'll bite, why not? :)
09:07 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 04:10:24; mircea_popescu: red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.
09:07 funkenstein_ like, what would that even mean, "women-centric"? Perhaps that as a man you would move in at your mother-in-law's place and take their name.
09:08 funkenstein_ An arrangement that doesn't sound too bad to me, having a house given to you as well as babysitters and cooks
09:09 funkenstein_ meanwhile chiefs, warriors, politicos, doctors - still were most always male gender
09:10 funkenstein_ houses being passed on to the daughters is the main reason anthropologist use the word "matriarchy"
09:10 funkenstein_ anyway the idea that any of this would have an affect on whether your kids were slaughtered by retarded orcs is oblique at best
09:11 funkenstein_ people don't have to give a shit, nor crack a book. but then bringing it up as if they did give a shit doesn't seem productive does it?
09:11 funkenstein_ today i saw "alf" written in small fluorescent green letters on the side of greek orthodox church
09:12 funkenstein_ mod6, thanks for the updated tutorial!
09:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.000685 = 6.0965 BTC [+]
09:14 mircea_popescu <funkenstein_> anyway the idea that any of this would have an affect on whether your kids were slaughtered by retarded orcs is oblique at best << not obligue at all. see "common decency" comments.
09:15 mircea_popescu but in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/804babab76943f2c67c56ee16a7c3479/tumblr_nvcu52Qpk81tsn8x4o1_1280.jpg
09:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KRzEnZ )
09:16 mircea_popescu and ftr, what i mean by "women-centric" is that the sorts of concerns of women (pain avoidance) are priviledged as societal goals. this is both harmful to society's prospects of survival as it is harmful to ALL individual members, overall, of both sexes.
09:26 funkenstein_ aha, perhaps something like a "the world is a loving mother and will take care of you" attitude?
09:28 funkenstein_ doesn't always work out that way does it
09:30 funkenstein_ I loled at butthurt Wagner :)
09:31 funkenstein_ i heard his father, on his deathbed, said something like "do you think [Wilhelm] has any musical talent?"
09:33 funkenstein_ off to the mines..
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09:56 mod6 <+funkenstein_> mod6, thanks for the updated tutorial! << yw
09:58 punkman mod6, can haz graph with the 3 patches I sent to ml? curious how that'd look
10:02 mod6 I might be able to throw that together. my version should be out for testing in the next week or so though if you just wanna wait. it'll build the whole graph for you with wild patches.
10:03 mod6 i'm trying to wrap up all these automated cucumber tests & loose ends on some stuff.
10:07 mod6 at this point, what it'll do is build a whole graphviz dotfile and output that to stdout or a file. the only part that it wont do (because you have to install `dot' separately) is for example: `dot -Tsvg <dotfile> > graph.html`
10:08 mod6 i guess i could add a method that'll check if dot is installed, and if it is, then will generate the svg html file for you... but *shrug*
10:08 mod6 like i said, loose ends :]
10:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18509 @ 0.0006809 = 12.6028 BTC [-] {4}
10:16 mod6 oh and also, your vpatches won't be added until after the release... so the graph will look a bit different with your 3 vpatches.
10:17 mod6 like alf and I were discussing last week - we're going to create a release vpatch that will take all leaf edges and tie them up with a new release vertex.
10:18 mod6 then yours will be added after that.
10:18 punkman mod6, release patch means every other patch you had not in release breaks though
10:20 punkman I don't see why it's better than release being a manifest with a patch sequence
10:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.000685 = 11.1655 BTC [+]
10:23 mircea_popescu o hey, redditard crowd finally catching up to 2013ish mpoe-pr, discovering btcjam is a scam ?
10:23 mircea_popescu this can actually only be good for bitcoin
10:25 * lobbes used to work with a guy that would come into office everyday talking about his btcjam 'investors club'; couldn't talk sense into the guy
10:25 mircea_popescu heh.
10:25 mircea_popescu you know that ballas bit right ?
10:25 lobbes I do not, no
10:25 thestringpuller I'm amazed BTCJam has survived so long.
10:26 thestringpuller There is a reason no one plays banker anymore.
10:26 mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/#selection-39.0-39.209
10:26 assbot The psychology of the bagholder on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LP1RAY )
10:26 mircea_popescu "The mistake is in thinking this has anything to do with the money. It's said that most at home traders fail, but this is incorrect: they fail at making money, but they are successful at feeling like a trader."
10:27 lobbes ahh yes. This rings a bell
10:27 lobbes that is essentially spot on to his MO. You could tell it was an 'emotional high' for the dude
10:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00068009 = 20.9808 BTC [-] {5}
10:40 mircea_popescu aha
10:51 mod6 So, if I make a test-release.vpatch to tie up the leafs for what we have in "v0.5.4-TEST2" or what we're calling "v0.5.4" then it ties up "asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch" and "asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch". If your patches are added after that, they become leafs along with the "test-release.vpatch".
10:52 mod6 I have a screenshot I've put up for you to see: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/release-vpatch-wDebugSanity.png
10:52 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rg0Ku4 )
10:55 mircea_popescu also, literature! http://31.media.tumblr.com/c891b3322ce2ebbd2511f7b5d1ce4c9b/tumblr_nvctwjg8Uw1tsn8x4o1_500.gif
10:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1YOCGUh )
10:59 deedbot- [Trilema] ¿No se puede? Ba pe-a ma-tii. - http://trilema.com/2015/%c2%bfno-se-puede-ba-pe-a-ma-tii/
11:02 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
11:03 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288440 << this is not a bug. it is correct behaviour.
11:03 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 14:51:53; mod6: So, if I make a test-release.vpatch to tie up the leafs for what we have in "v0.5.4-TEST2" or what we're calling "v0.5.4" then it ties up "asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch" and "asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch". If your patches are added after that, they become leafs along with the "test-release.vpatch".
11:04 ascii_field it breaks the 'come to expect' of some folks, likely. but it ~correctly~ displays flow.
11:06 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288304 << aha. so far only a few pesthole states, and even in these, strictly ceremonial gesture
11:06 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 08:30:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287904 << except maryland wasn't one of them.
11:06 mircea_popescu but the thing you referenced was specifically maryland ?
11:06 mircea_popescu you can't propose x theory is exemplified by y trend when the core of y is different from the elements of x.
11:08 ascii_field i was speaking of overall neg-pr campaign against municipal police in all if usa
11:08 ascii_field *of usa
11:08 mircea_popescu but blacklivesmatter is a maryland thing, and the "arrest usg twerps" is a "other states than maryland" thing.
11:09 ascii_field mno
11:09 ascii_field usa-wide thing
11:09 mircea_popescu usa is not a thing.
11:09 ascii_field ferguson, for instance, is not in md.
11:09 thestringpuller "The FEDS are your friends."
11:09 mircea_popescu which usa for that matter ? cali-usa ? washdc-usa ?
11:09 ascii_field black usa?
11:10 mircea_popescu black usa is pretty much georgia
11:10 mircea_popescu [centered on]
11:11 thestringpuller What?!?
11:11 ascii_field btw when usa folk think 'black', generally this means urbanscartissuefolk
11:11 mircea_popescu iirc, the entire "arrest feds" thing was arizona -nm-texas.
11:11 ascii_field it was. but usg cauterized the wound
11:12 mircea_popescu meanwhile in related lolz : http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pot-legal-d-c-congressman-threatens-send-city-officials-prison/
11:12 assbot Feds Threaten D.C. Officials with Prison If they Go Through with Pot Legalization on Thursday | The Free Thought Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1YOEwo7 )
11:12 thestringpuller How is black USA pretty much Georgia?
11:13 mircea_popescu thestringpuller well what is it ?
11:13 mircea_popescu it's not north dakota is it ?
11:14 ascii_field but it is la and baltimore and dc
11:14 ascii_field wherever there is 'concrete jungle'
11:14 mircea_popescu i dunno.
11:14 mircea_popescu the notion that blacks matter in la... get off it. it's all hispanics.
11:15 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i feel like there is southern black people here, but Georgia is mainly rednecks.
11:15 ascii_field they matter in the sense of keeping poor whites out ?
11:15 mircea_popescu dude were you even in la ?
11:15 mircea_popescu thestringpuller it is ?
11:16 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: Atlanta has a lot of black folk. But Georgia as a whole is mainly rednecks.
11:16 mircea_popescu thestringpuller afaik (mebbe out of date) georgia has the largest black population of the union
11:16 thestringpuller The suburbs of Atlanta are mainly white people factory.
11:17 mircea_popescu it not being a terribly populous state, this makes the percent markedly higher than say ny or la
11:17 mircea_popescu like 30% or some shit
11:17 mircea_popescu doubt anything else is even over 20. maybe mississippi
11:18 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288115 << he lost his head at the cia's pleasure
11:18 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 04:49:18; mircea_popescu: scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.
11:18 thestringpuller yea it's number 3 but there are more in surrounding states like missipi and LA (the state)
11:18 thestringpuller in percent of population
11:18 mircea_popescu a ok
11:18 thestringpuller but yea I guess it is #1 in the union for black people
11:18 thestringpuller with a whopping 3million negros!
11:18 thestringpuller New York is in close 2nd
11:19 ascii_field mircea_popescu: it is never about the pop % ! it is about cities
11:19 thestringpuller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population << Has a list for reference based on census.
11:19 mircea_popescu eh it's about telling stories. how the heck wouldja infer that "at cia's pleasure" either.
11:19 mircea_popescu dude check that out.
11:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00067979 = 16.5189 BTC [-]
11:19 * mircea_popescu pats himself on back for his cia factbook quality
11:19 ascii_field the real estate racket conscripted these folks to make prime city areas uninhabitable
11:20 mircea_popescu ascii_field that aside, your theory was that the entire black lives matter narrative is somehow "at cia's pleasure" and for the purpose of countering the "arrest feds" movement.
11:20 ascii_field nono
11:20 mircea_popescu neither of these two stands.
11:20 ascii_field death of jfk
11:20 mircea_popescu well then ?
11:20 ascii_field other thread
11:21 thestringpuller black people cared more about the death of MLK than JFK...
11:21 mircea_popescu i conflated because it seems to me you're generally just post-dating any event that happened to "cia's will"
11:21 mircea_popescu meta-nsa, whatever.
11:21 mircea_popescu thestringpuller if you think about it, 3 mn is not really all that much.
11:21 ascii_field cia per se only re: jfk
11:22 mircea_popescu i'm unpersuaded.
11:22 mircea_popescu some obscure cell seems much more probable.
11:22 ascii_field brb
11:24 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
11:25 ascii_field recommended, 'death and life of great american cities' (jacobs)
11:26 ascii_field short version, proto-usg squeezed out poor white catholics, who were slow to 'get with the program', from urban centers, with 'population replacement' gambit where 'housing projects' were built and filled with lumpens
11:27 mircea_popescu i am unpersuaded by that, either.
11:28 mircea_popescu what remains here is : a) that the usg is very vulnerable, has always been, and far from a "you can do nothing to us" a top guy is killed every few decades, and the lower agents get popped daily.
11:28 mircea_popescu in fact it's safer to be a criminal than a usg agent.
11:28 ascii_field fact is, poor whites are virtually absent from urban centers. whether martians removed them, or something else, can be debated. the demographics - not so much
11:28 mircea_popescu and b) that there's scant relation between the raping of the usg in the states as per the marijuana thing ands the raping of the usg in other states as per the blacks thing
11:28 ascii_field !s lon horiuchi
11:28 assbot 5 results for 'lon horiuchi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=lon+horiuchi
11:28 ascii_field ^ among the most hated men alive, but in great health!
11:29 mircea_popescu this is like observing that beggars are absent from the countryside.
11:29 mircea_popescu of course they are. they go to the subway entrances.
11:30 ascii_field re: the dope wars: wake me up when dea agents are packed off to jails for enforcing their laws, and convoyed by state national guard if need be
11:30 ascii_field (will be mega-interesting in d.c., as it has no national guard proper afaik)
11:31 mircea_popescu aha.
11:31 mircea_popescu im sure it can call out for volunteers :D
11:31 mircea_popescu (something along these lines is the reasonable expectation re the breakup.
11:31 mircea_popescu ru will certainly send 100k people if there's a way.)
11:31 ascii_field perhaps it will invent teleporter.
11:31 mircea_popescu what, like the 50mn illegals did ?
11:32 ascii_field those are here at the pleasure of lizard cathedral.
11:32 mircea_popescu nonsense.
11:33 mircea_popescu they are there at the raping of the lizard cathedral.
11:33 mircea_popescu just like the russian volunteers would be.
11:33 ascii_field they do 90% of the physical labour.
11:33 mircea_popescu and the volunteers would do 90% of the shooting
11:33 mircea_popescu and the rotterham pakis did 90% of the teen fucking
11:33 mircea_popescu so what of it.
11:33 ascii_field including the hard work of properly terrorizing whites to keep real estate expensive
11:34 ascii_field ~precisely~ same purpose, aha
11:34 mircea_popescu there is no purpose to human affairs.
11:34 ascii_field we are looking at a crafted system, no less than so than a pentium
11:34 ascii_field not a naturally-occurring sludge pool
11:34 ascii_field there is sludge being pumped, yes
11:35 ascii_field but through pipes, put there with purpose.
11:36 mircea_popescu we are not.
11:36 ascii_field usa is a 'divide and conquer' affair from the very start.
11:37 ascii_field when slaves were set against the 'indentured men'
11:37 mircea_popescu this is too reductive to be usable.
11:38 mircea_popescu for one thing "usa" did not exist from the very start.
11:38 ascii_field mircea_popescu: for my enlightenment, formulate example of 'usable' hypothesis here ?
11:38 mircea_popescu "usa" was the brand name a few disparate centers of population and of a few slightly more coherent centers of production used for a brief interval between two european wars.
11:38 * ascii_field is taking 'very start' to refer, as it conventionally did, to the english colonies of 17th and 18th c.
11:38 mircea_popescu it has no more substance to it than "revlon"
11:39 ascii_field shorthand for 'the lands which became modern usa'
11:39 mircea_popescu there is no contemporary usa.
11:39 mircea_popescu there WAS, briefly, a thing called usa. it started cca 1905 and ended cca 1960
11:39 mircea_popescu as the outermost extensions
11:42 mircea_popescu it was replaced by "the us", but much in the way things changed from the pre-brejnev soviets to the post, it is now a label to distance oneself from.
11:42 mircea_popescu nobody seriously professed a hatred of the usa, or professes a love of the us.
11:42 ascii_field nobody ?
11:42 mircea_popescu pushing a point, but no, even the teeth clenching arabs were in love with the usa.
11:43 ascii_field i suppose this is a technical, mircea_popescuing sense of 'nobody', where million half-imbecile schoolchildren singing the anthem don't count as 'body
11:44 mircea_popescu iirc this is no longer a thing.
11:44 mircea_popescu and hasn't been for years.
11:44 ascii_field sure it is
11:44 ascii_field or, it was, when i was a schoolboy
11:44 ascii_field 20y ago.
11:45 mircea_popescu "According to a 2004 Harris Interactive survey, nearly two out of three Americans (61 percent) are unable to recall all of the words to The Star-Spangled Banner"
11:45 mircea_popescu gimme a break ?
11:46 thestringpuller O' Say does that star spangled banner yet waaaaaave!
11:46 ascii_field but they can whistle it !
11:46 ascii_field this is a passing mark in this day and age.
11:46 mircea_popescu methinks the perch you stand on is awash.
11:46 thestringpuller damn I'm one those 61%
11:46 thestringpuller i totally don't know the national anthem
11:47 * ascii_field can do the su anthem but has trouble with last 2 stanzas of usaian
11:47 mircea_popescu mmkay.
11:47 * mircea_popescu even vaguely remembers the rsr anthem, notwithstanding that we DIDNT actually have to do it in school.
11:47 ascii_field союз нерушимый республик свободных......
11:48 mircea_popescu btw, it's a pretty shitty anthem i always thought.
11:48 mircea_popescu musically speaking.
11:48 mircea_popescu i mean these ppl do not understand wtf an anthem's supposed to be or what is this toothpaste.
11:48 ascii_field i for one find it to be the only musically bearable one i've ever heard !
11:48 mircea_popescu srsly ?
11:48 ascii_field i suppose 'different stokes for different folkz'
11:48 * mircea_popescu is partial to german marches.
11:49 mircea_popescu now THAT makles a good anthem.
11:49 ascii_field fredericus rex !
11:49 mircea_popescu for instance. but there's dozens of perfectly passible ones
11:49 mircea_popescu even their current one (wacth am rhein iirc ?) is good.
11:50 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288003 << beaten to a pulp in ancient logz...
11:50 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 00:39:53; jurov: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/
11:50 ascii_field !s tontine
11:50 assbot 9 results for 'tontine' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tontine
11:50 mircea_popescu aha.
11:51 ascii_field esp. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014#476686
11:51 assbot Logged on 04-02-2014 00:55:48; asciilifeform: a 'kinder, gentler' tontine, where you don't have to plug your rivals, just help them forget to check their mail
11:53 jurov we are nearing the inevitable stage when everything will be in logs already
11:53 mircea_popescu marking a complete torah.
11:53 ascii_field talmud
11:54 mircea_popescu right.
11:54 jurov no, talmud is therealbitcoin mailing list
11:54 mircea_popescu btw, since all the cia talk necessarily leads one to thinking of waco :
11:54 mircea_popescu anyone familiar with the antics of the victims there ?
11:54 ascii_field aha
11:54 mircea_popescu like, for instance, the one time that dude vying for power with some other dude DUG UP A CASKET
11:54 mircea_popescu and challenged his opponent to a RESURECTION CONTEST ?
11:54 mircea_popescu like you know, wager of combat ^ -e
11:55 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
11:57 ascii_field mircea_popescu: it was the very textbook example of usg powershow modus operandi - pick on the borderline retarded, preferably ones who practice voodoo to a degree repugnant to the tvtronic public
11:57 ascii_field polygamy busts were (are?) also popular for this reason
11:57 ascii_field (bonus element of envy !)
11:58 mircea_popescu oh right. how about the time when "it was decided" only the one schmuck can fuck, and the husbands of the women involved are to be liek you know, celibate now.
11:58 ascii_field cult sop ?
11:59 mircea_popescu i dunno about that.
11:59 mircea_popescu more like, "small island tribal chieftain" sop.
11:59 mircea_popescu which i guess describes the us as well as it describes polynesia, sure.
11:59 ascii_field described the voodoo enclaves, no ?
12:00 mircea_popescu i dunno that this nonsense sexual stellarity is all that common in practice.
12:00 ascii_field these were nucleation points for 'militia movement' in the '90s, which was, afaik, five parts usg provocateurship to one part genuine, if imbecilic, organized rebellion - which had to be nuked
12:01 ascii_field and so it was.
12:02 mircea_popescu i do not for a moment believe the ridiculous antics of nutty neoprotestant biggots in rural texas are a nucleation for anything.
12:02 mircea_popescu including a syphilis outbreak.
12:03 ascii_field they were ~to usg~
12:03 ascii_field we are discussing psychiatric picture, not reality as such
12:05 mircea_popescu you are attempting psychiatry on an undefined, noncorporeal entity ?
~ 15 minutes ~
12:20 mircea_popescu "After the ceasefire, the Branch Davidians allowed the ATF dead and wounded to be evacuated and held their fire during the ATF retreat."
12:21 mircea_popescu the funny thing is, that the "marginally retarded" (which they were) had the usg agents so badly beaten it was fucking ridiculous.
12:21 mircea_popescu in fact anyone even survived to tell the story because these derps allowed it. could just as well have executed the entire bunch.
12:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00067979 = 4.1467 BTC [-]
12:26 mircea_popescu hey mike_c diana_coman is looking for noob miners
12:26 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:26 mike_c yeah.. my available gaming time is down to nil right now. Busy working on a sekrit project.
12:27 mike_c it will be.. amazing.
12:27 assbot AMAZING COMPANY!
12:27 mike_c ty assbot.
12:28 mircea_popescu o ? cool
12:29 ascii_field mircea_popescu: if they had massacred the fbi troops, the likely response (according to some sources, it was already in the works at the time) was aerial bombardment until nothing moves
12:29 mircea_popescu so ?
12:29 mircea_popescu im sure they deeply cared.
12:29 ascii_field so apparently they cared ?
12:29 ascii_field or else why the ceasefire
12:29 mircea_popescu dude spare me the bullshit bluffs.
12:30 mircea_popescu the likely response would have been exactly what argentina response is in similar to scale incidents
12:30 mircea_popescu run away screaming and pretend nothing ever happened.
12:30 mircea_popescu wtf.
12:30 mircea_popescu what happened when they got anally raped at tikrit ?
12:31 mircea_popescu "areal bombardment until nothing is ever mentioned again in the agitprop press"
12:31 ascii_field and when the now-appearently-sovereign little enclave starts minting methcoin, polygamically rogering nomenklature daughters, and sheltering assassins ?
12:31 mike_c bombardment like bombs? seems unlikely they would drop bombs in texas.
12:32 ascii_field mike_c: ever consider what national guard is for ?
12:32 ascii_field and why it is equipped with bombs (it is)
12:32 mike_c so this would have been first time ever?
12:32 mike_c national guard is for sending to iraq when they run out of regulars
12:32 ascii_field 1st since cw1
12:32 ascii_field this would, logically, be cw2.
12:33 mircea_popescu mike_c it's out of the question.
12:33 mike_c well, cw1 didn't have bombs
12:33 mike_c not aerial ones at least
12:33 ascii_field cw1 had artillery.
12:34 mircea_popescu if you're thinking an ailing, falling under its own weight bureaucracy - not even this one in particular, any one - is actually brimming with the virility of youth and ready to escalate until nothing's left you're seriously from a different movie.
12:34 mircea_popescu old men put all their all into their first scream because that's all they got.
12:35 mircea_popescu you scream louder and that's the end of the fucking story.
12:35 ascii_field that bus mats rode in was full of emasculated old men ?
12:35 mircea_popescu pretty much.
12:35 * ascii_field was not able to learn this with naked eye
12:36 mircea_popescu in any case, i have had opportunity to try this in the field : when i maneuvered teh demonstrators around the "security cordon", they didn't do anything. they fell back. cuz wtf were they gonna do.
12:36 mircea_popescu this is universal. if the hrt team gets blown to bits, they run off. what fucking "aerial bombardment", you think that's how it goes, someone feels like it one day and that's it, go ?
12:37 ascii_field strong state does not degenerate to a point where you can ask this question.
12:37 ascii_field which is why usg is not considering what part of texas to bomb today.
12:37 mircea_popescu yaya.
12:41 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288069 << i like this as much as anybody, but a) i don't expect to ever live to see it come back and b) if i did live to see it, would probably end up on the suitcase-carrying side of the equation, so i don't especially cry from not living to see it.
12:41 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 04:02:22; mircea_popescu: and the entire society is organised around this notion.
12:42 mircea_popescu this is exactly like saying cca 1915 that "you don't expect to ever live to see computers and if you do you'll prolly be on the side of polishing the casings".
12:43 mircea_popescu this is broadly missing the point, because the sides you'd know about pre aren't a good representation of the sides that actually exist post.
12:43 ascii_field i'm not sure there ever were, or could be, more than two sides of the menial labour counter
12:45 mircea_popescu it's more complicated. the benefits that acrue from living in a sane society are not directly apparent in insanity-land. best one could tell the porter of 1950 was way happier than the bill de blasio of 2010.
12:45 ascii_field but i dont wanna be a porter.
12:45 mircea_popescu in any case, i know that if it were possible to never ever run into either an idiot or idiot droppings, i'd gladly carry cases for the rest of my lives.
12:45 ascii_field in 1950, 550, 50, or 2050.
12:45 mircea_popescu i sorta feel about these like i imagine you feel about rats.
12:45 ascii_field i don't really distinguish the quadripedal and bipedal rat
12:48 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288099 << ahahahaha yes.
12:48 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 04:41:02; mircea_popescu: also asciilifeform might enjoy http://uncouthreflections.com/2015/09/28/the-real-problem-of-sexual-assault-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-32725 discussion
12:49 mircea_popescu According to the FBI, Steve Schneider—Koresh's top aide, who "probably realized he was dealing with a fraud"—shot and killed Koresh and then killed himself with the same gun.
12:49 mircea_popescu bwahahaha yeah, that is SO VERY TOTALLY what happened.
12:49 mircea_popescu magda realised she's dealing with a fraud so she killed herself and her kids. logic!
12:49 ascii_field 'he ran into my knife! ten times!'
12:50 ascii_field see also death of harris & klebold.
12:50 ascii_field (~exact~ same Official picture)
12:53 ascii_field 'I asked a professor for help with a problem. He talked to me for a bit and then said “You’re having trouble with this problem because you don’t know anything and you’re not working very hard.”' << win
12:55 ascii_field mircea_popescu: how does http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288105 work with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288108 ?
12:55 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 04:42:57; mircea_popescu: the only just desserts of a castrated population is the humiliation ratchet.
12:55 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 04:46:49; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287879 << see, the subtle differences make the difference. no, that's not what i say.
12:55 mircea_popescu your proposed "not pashtun" is not equal to my actual position! nor even very similar.
12:56 ascii_field roughly, 'unable to be herded by police like cattle' ?
12:56 ascii_field or is there some problem with this heuristic
12:56 mircea_popescu "have something to live for that's inside themselves"
12:56 ascii_field this, roughly, 'pashtunity'
12:56 mircea_popescu ie, humanity.
12:57 ascii_field !s berkem atomi
12:57 assbot 0 results for 'berkem atomi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=berkem+atomi
12:57 ascii_field ^ pseudonym
12:57 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:57 ascii_field wrote the little bit about 'extracting your will cock from its scabbard' etc
12:58 ascii_field he also had 'there are pigs... such as you, the reader... then there are jackals, who will eat your carcass when the collapse comes... and there are - or were, human beings. you have almost certainly never met one and never will, reader.' (translation mine)
12:58 ascii_field i suppose these human beings, above.
12:58 mircea_popescu it's really not that rare. just uncommon to be speaking english.
12:58 ascii_field aha.
13:00 mircea_popescu o look, even had a twitter.
13:00 ascii_field http://zhurnal.lib.ru/b/berkem_a_a/paniker.shtml << the essay. in case phf or mircea_popescu feels like translating
13:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QLc4NW )
13:00 mircea_popescu why and how did mquin decide spamming's a good idea.
13:12 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/1c1148c4bbd7cdb794586ad36d25b517/tumblr_nvehzidGqT1tsn8x4o2_400.gif
13:12 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FEKUrP )
13:15 ascii_field 'The police major—perhaps in mind of the nationwide spate of police killings by thugs—decided to speak to this loitering person. The content of the conversation is not yet known. The cop did tell the idiot to show his hands. The idiot refused to show his empty hands. The cop shot him in the leg—I bet that shit hurt! The major then took off his own belt and used it as a tourniquet and the last I heard the boy bl
13:15 ascii_field under was in stable condition. The major is on administrative leave.' << as far as i can tell, it was the 'rats' who escalated from clubs and knives to pistols, over ~50 yrs., in the police-vs-rats warz
13:17 ascii_field at one point, it was understood (at least by urbanites) in usa that killing a cop means the electric chair first and questions later.
13:17 ascii_field it is interesting to watch old films and see things like people going quietly to police station when asked, politely !
13:18 ascii_field or ru films where a murder suspect is not even in handcuffs!
13:18 mircea_popescu at that point, it was still the usa.
13:18 ascii_field (believe! this was sop.)
13:22 mircea_popescu ;;google define aferation
13:22 gribble Aferrar - Diccionario de español / Spanish Dictionary: <http://es.thefreedictionary.com/aferrar>; aferrar - Diccionario Inglés-Español WordReference.com: <http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=aferrar>; The lJniversity of lTarwick - Department of Computer Science: <http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/report/pdfs/cs-rr-073.pdf>
13:22 mircea_popescu srsly ?
13:23 mircea_popescu dude this internet was made by retards.
13:23 mircea_popescu aferation is an english,
13:23 mircea_popescu word.
13:27 mircea_popescu it used to be latin, affero, where it meant to bring (ferry comes from the same fero root). it moved into french, where it meant to take over. it then slowly moved into a more figurative "to give oneself the airs of an office one does not yet have", at which point it moved into english, "to give oneself airs".
13:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0006795 = 11.4836 BTC [-] {4}
13:42 mats http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon5/mainlist
13:42 assbot Derbycon 2015 Videos (Hacking Illustrated Series InfoSec Tutorial Videos) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCYcA3 )
13:46 punkman mats, any picks?
13:51 mats the movfuscator talk is good, although i think you've already looked at the writeup
13:51 mats the wmi talk covered some stuff i haven't seen before
13:58 mats fun fact: an 'Untrusted' process can use a bug in COM impersonation with WMI to escalate to 'High Integrity'
14:08 thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3mztro/how_bitcoin_died_a_report_from_2025/ << l0lz. Bitcoin seems to illuminate the stupid for what they are.
14:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4182 @ 0.0006792 = 2.8404 BTC [-]
14:25 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:25 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288746 << gimme my five minutes back.
14:25 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 18:08:55; thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3mztro/how_bitcoin_died_a_report_from_2025/ << l0lz. Bitcoin seems to illuminate the stupid for what they are.
14:25 ascii_field (ok, 30 sec)
14:25 ascii_field what a waste of electron.
14:30 thestringpuller https://nick-black.com/dankwiki/index.php/Nuclear_weapons << maybe this can make up for it
14:31 ascii_field thestringpuller: 'Since 2001-09-11, great stocks of (unclassified) information have been purged from US government sites. Various fellow travelers (see below) maintain partial archives. Relevant conference proceedings (high-density physics, etc) get snapped up on used book sites quickly.' << learn ru.
14:31 ascii_field problem solved.
14:31 ascii_field srsly.
14:32 ascii_field 'My recommendations are to follow The Making of the Atomic Bomb and The Los Alamos Primer (see "Books", below) with a few nuclear engineering and physics texts, at which point you'll be well-equipped to daydream about your own neutron initiator ideas and radical implosion symmetries. ' << without exception engl. language material is crawling with deliberate and potentially lethal disinfo, on this and many other subjects.
14:32 ascii_field this was conscious and engineered.
14:32 thestringpuller "Don't be afraid to search through Russian papers; once you need to (you'll know when), they're sufficiently mathematically dense that you can follow along. The words are mainly just transitions anyway."
14:33 ascii_field don't use the engl. translations of these, either.
14:34 ascii_field verdict re: site: EOL snore.
14:34 thestringpuller https://nick-black.com/dankwiki/images/0/08/Ahmadinejad.jpg << you have to admit that's funny
14:42 thestringpuller sorry for boring you ascii_field :(
14:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.000685 = 11.508 BTC [+]
14:51 ascii_field just when some may have thought that it is impossible for 'kickstarter' users to get any dumber: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving
14:51 assbot The Skarp Laser Razor: 21st Century Shaving by Skarp Technologies — Kickstarter ... ( http://bit.ly/1LksTS7 )
14:51 ascii_field ^ plausibility: approximately zero; money: $millions
14:52 ascii_field addendum now has film of the sc4mz0r burning his skin with what is - bet your arse - a hot nichrome wire
14:52 ascii_field but it is described as 'laser!'
14:52 ascii_field for bonus revulsion, picture what this tool would ~smell~ like if it were physically possible and worked.
14:52 mircea_popescu uh
14:53 ascii_field when i see something like this, i cannot help but wonder if 'kickstarter' is a straight money laundry for siphoning stolen cc#
14:53 jurov well.. laser depilation is a thing
14:53 ascii_field jurov: pointedly not the item claimed
14:53 ascii_field jurov: read the link. if you can stomach it.
14:53 jurov yes i saw it, funny
14:53 ascii_field perhaps the most egregious ks scam yet.
14:54 mircea_popescu ascii_field figured it out!
14:55 mircea_popescu yes dude, most of the "investments" are that. "oops we lost the money". right.
14:55 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
14:55 ascii_field there are a few indie computer games etc. sprinkled in for legitimacy
14:55 ascii_field (what is it called when honest folks end up doing this duty for a chumpatron..)
14:56 mircea_popescu bullock shilling ?
14:56 ascii_field possible
14:56 ascii_field i confess, i lack the full vocabulary to describe adequately a scamatron of this complexity.
14:59 mircea_popescu in similar newds, http://41.media.tumblr.com/9b7797cf96d2ab41c4693025c2fd8ebc/tumblr_nl9v66qyvE1u4e2kko1_1280.jpg
14:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lkugjr )
14:59 ascii_field mircea_popescu: why, do you suppose, the passers-by look so glum ?
15:00 mircea_popescu they are not aware.
15:00 mircea_popescu you have no idea how clueless people in the streets of a quaint european town are.
15:01 ascii_field is there no bus for them to end up under ?
15:01 thestringpuller LOL. Bitstamp is spamming me now.
15:01 mircea_popescu it's like an open air mall.
15:01 thestringpuller "We haven't seen you log in awhile, can we help you with KYC? We miss you!"
15:02 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288765 << damn. beat me to it. hilarious video btw. full of the most inept posturing and junior high classroom 'tech'
15:02 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 18:51:14; ascii_field: just when some may have thought that it is impossible for 'kickstarter' users to get any dumber: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving
15:04 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288363 << super read. just what i needed today :)
15:04 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 11:12:15; deedbot-: [Trilema] How the world worked back when the world worked - http://trilema.com/2015/how-the-world-worked-back-when-the-world-worked/
15:04 mircea_popescu lol
15:04 mircea_popescu hey pete_dushenski, what do you do in your spare time ?
15:04 mircea_popescu by which i mean, when you're not here/writing on your blog etc.
15:05 mats payment processing networks are rolling out updates for 'emv' support at midnight in usa
15:07 ascii_field 'Starting Thursday, merchants will be held fully liable for any losses due to credit card fraud if they are not geared up for the new, more secure, chip cards. And consumers will need to change their habit of swiping their credit cards to pay: Instead, they "dip" their new cards into terminals and leave them there until the transaction is complete. That is, if the retailer they're shopping at has the necessary equipment.'
15:07 ascii_field << mega-snore.
15:07 ascii_field 1) merchants were ALWAYS liable
15:07 ascii_field 2) the new cards are BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE for www purchases and equally scammable
15:07 ascii_field (can use the cc # to buy)
15:07 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu property manager of a small, older commercial building that my father owns. 6 tenants, 100 occupants, fun little project. also manage two residential properties. also manage a small start-up in the construction materials space, we make the first/only/bestest fibreglass composite curtain wall framing. and then there's the little one. le petit monstre...
15:08 mats if you have plans to buy things with your credit card tomorrow, should prob do it today, processing networks will be intermittently down
15:08 mircea_popescu here's the thing in my head : b-a is by now at a stage where it kinda needs its own pr agency. and you might be just the asshole to do that, if you swing that way. do you swing that way ?
15:08 thestringpuller mats: is this national?
15:08 mats yes
15:09 ascii_field mircea_popescu: pr agency, l0l! isn't that what moiety starved doing ?
15:09 mircea_popescu no.
15:09 mircea_popescu she starved doing the very scared of bombs secretary brit girl.
15:09 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu how do you imagine this agency working ?
15:09 pete_dushenski i'm at essentially no risk of starvation, ftr.
15:09 mircea_popescu and the process of her starvation was that she starved on her own devices, b-a got her a place to stay and then she ran off.
15:09 ascii_field iirc pete_dushenski even sleeps ad libitum
15:10 pete_dushenski even with infant, i do indeed
15:10 ascii_field just the man for a 'Men wanted for hazardous journey. Low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete darkness. Safe return doubtful. Honour and recognition in event of success.'
15:10 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski a pr agency is in this day and age a very simple affair, but somewhat time consuming. in principle, it can be reduced to a lone dude with an internet connection and two lists. one, longer, of useful social media derps. the sort that are willing to do the hard work of upvoting, derping on reddit, etc. the other, sadly shorter, of actual important people can talk to directly. like say "all newspaper column
15:10 mircea_popescu ists in so and so".
15:11 mircea_popescu building these is not particularly difficult,. but it takes time. more importantly, it takes determination. and the sort of attitude of the guy that hey, the managers don't wanna see, but since the phone is here...
15:11 ascii_field mircea_popescu: can't resist the question, what is the point of having the first of the lists ?
15:11 mircea_popescu faux "consensus" building.
15:11 mircea_popescu you know, like reddit all agreed that XT is gonna take over.
15:12 * ascii_field was under the impression that this is a waste of time
15:12 ascii_field at least as per mircea_popescutronic theory
15:12 mircea_popescu depends for whom. why allow the pinoys to make this money ?
15:12 mircea_popescu starve the enemy throughout.
15:12 mircea_popescu denial is a valid strategy.
15:14 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: how is this any different than marketing?
15:14 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu i believe i grok the first list - straightforward enough really, compile those on 'social media' on 'our side' and focus their energies accordingly - it's the second list i'm less clear about.
15:14 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski arrington's success, you have to understand, is very little more than this. it's not a difficult recipe to read or follow. it just takes the hard worker to execute.
15:15 mircea_popescu one could argue that jobs genius is altogether not much above this either.
15:15 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski no, it's more like, spend all your time on fiverr and craigslist and wherever the hungry congregate, spend a little money buying their ample time.
15:16 mircea_popescu nobody gives a shit about extant social media accounts. their value is not even a fractrion of the work they put in
15:16 ascii_field notice how dog sleds exist, but not rat sleds.
15:16 mircea_popescu what you want is shannonizing meatrobots, capable of pouring out more nonsense. they're cheaper than the electric type, as of yet.
15:16 pete_dushenski aha. so basically #1 is fighting fire with fire.
15:16 ascii_field or chicken sleds.
15:16 mircea_popescu ascii_field every circus worth its name has a flea sled.
15:16 BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288460 << Ferguson is in a Considers arresting USG state
15:16 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 15:09:25; ascii_field: ferguson, for instance, is not in md.
15:17 ascii_field flea sled is great so long as it is not expected to go anywhere in particular.
15:17 ascii_field or carry anything.
15:17 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah, i figured he had me when he said that :p
15:17 mircea_popescu ascii_field which it isn't.
15:18 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu and #2 is a list of journalists who may require quotes from time to time, which i would then provide directly or send them here to ask b-a directly ?
15:18 ascii_field then beautiful.
15:18 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski as to the 2nd list : you want to build raport with those people. make a habit of taking one to lunch every week, if at all possible.
15:18 mircea_popescu (very fucking possible, they travel on starvation budgets)
15:20 pete_dushenski not to put too fine a point on it, but when and how is 'finance' or 'tech' journalist coming to buttfuck edmonton ? afaik they stay at home, work in nyc, or go to 'conpherences'
15:22 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu but that's really just a practical matter, there are other ways to build rapport. the bigger question is 'why a pr agency' and 'why now?'
15:23 pete_dushenski it's surely more than just a make work project for me in your mind
15:26 mircea_popescu you familiar with all the alf parachute talk ?
15:26 pete_dushenski don't wait until you're falling from plane to build parachute ?
15:27 mircea_popescu that stuff. and besides, YOU travel now and again don't you ?
15:27 mircea_popescu you'll be going to a lot more conferences i guess.
15:31 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu i certainly traveled plenty pre-monstre, though this will be decidedly diminished for at least 6-12 months. also, such trips only once coincided with a conpherence. going forward, as most traveling i do is personal touristing, these are unlikely to coincide again.
15:31 mircea_popescu because why ?
15:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0006799 = 4.8273 BTC [-]
15:31 pete_dushenski furthermore, the expense of just taking trips to conpherenes seems prohibitive
15:32 mircea_popescu besides, i wouldn't expect this to get anywhere within 12 months. if it does within 36 i'll be impressed.
15:32 pete_dushenski well that's all you needed to say :)
15:33 pete_dushenski if 36 months is mp='impressed', then 48='so-so' and longer than that is 'pete wasn't the right man for the job'
15:33 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:33 * ascii_field wonders what interesting things may become part of the picture once enemy can no longer pretend to live in parallel '#b-a never existed' world
15:34 mircea_popescu haha time doesn't scale. but anyway, for it to exist in three years you'll be spending a lot of time on it throughout
15:34 mircea_popescu this is one of those things "anyone" could do except anyone is a socially awkward fuck and anyone lacks the focus and discipline for doing thigns more complex than microwaving.
15:34 mircea_popescu but other than that, anyone could do it!
15:36 pete_dushenski this may well be the right kind of b-a 'contribution' for me, given that i can't code worth a damn.
15:36 pete_dushenski ima mull it over and research a little further into this 'pr' business
15:36 mircea_popescu the only true drawback is that unlike real estate, this is a constant maintenance racket. everything you have at any point won't be useful in 5 years, or even 3. things move too fast. so its not one of those "do this right once it's done forever" stories like alf likes. it's more of a "hold this lamp up".
15:37 pete_dushenski that does sound a bit annoying
15:37 pete_dushenski i quite enjoy my time for reading, writing, etc... hmm.
15:38 mircea_popescu don't use up old age activities while you're young.
15:38 mircea_popescu you don't have the same options once you're in a retirement home.
15:38 pete_dushenski and ftr i'm nowhere near as speedy at these enjoyable activities as mp
15:38 pete_dushenski they take considerable time
15:38 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu this is a point.
15:38 mircea_popescu i'm not speedy, i'm just existing on multiple planes at the same time is all.
15:38 ascii_field mircea_popescu's advice is good except in the cases of folks who don't expect to live to retire
15:38 pete_dushenski l0lk
15:39 mircea_popescu hehe
15:39 pete_dushenski eg. cynics from the pale.
15:40 pete_dushenski i mean realists !!
15:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26847 @ 0.00067873 = 18.2219 BTC [-] {6}
15:48 mircea_popescu http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/living-in-strategic-denial/article/2569150
15:48 assbot Living in strategic denial | Washington Examiner ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhWynb )
15:48 mircea_popescu check out what exists in washington!
15:51 thestringpuller ;;google doherty threshold
15:51 gribble IBM: The Economic Value of Rapid Response Time: <http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/evrrt.html>; Doherty Threshold - Halt and Catch Fire Wiki: <http://haltandcatchfire.wikia.com/wiki/Doherty_Threshold>; TIL about the Doherty Threshold: < 400ms response time addicting ...: (1 more message)
15:51 ascii_field aaaaand we cut to the chase,
15:51 ascii_field 'To keep America's enemies from running up the score further, Obama will have to take more expansive military actions and increase defense spending. Perhaps Obama will come to realize this truth before he leaves office, as Jimmy Carter did in his last year. '
15:52 thestringpuller !s doherty threshold
15:52 assbot 0 results for 'doherty threshold' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=doherty+threshold
15:52 ascii_field i.e. cheap shilling for 'lockheed', 'raytheon', et al.
15:52 BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288585 << Third verse is best verse. Country went downhill when it was dropped.
15:52 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 15:47:03; *: ascii_field can do the su anthem but has trouble with last 2 stanzas of usaian
15:53 mircea_popescu ascii_field what, you spotted raytheon pr ?
15:54 ascii_field mircea_popescu: 'increase defense spending' in usa is dog whistle for 'moar f35 plz'
15:54 ascii_field considering that, without exception, it - and similar - is where the money goes.
15:54 ascii_field not to buy new boots for trigger-pullers, no.
15:54 mircea_popescu you know how this clarity media device works right ?
15:55 ascii_field ?
15:55 mircea_popescu they do a sort of curated "pro-am" blog network. claim 3k new articles a day.
15:56 ascii_field l0l raytheon ad actually visible on this www !
15:56 ascii_field i did not even notice it.
15:56 ascii_field no less than TWO OF THEM
15:56 mircea_popescu it's a sort of wikipedia meets that old women selling pots thing, i forget what it's called.
15:56 ascii_field identical.
15:56 ascii_field 'tupperware
15:56 ascii_field '
15:57 mircea_popescu a right
16:01 mircea_popescu anyway, it's a good model for it's market (middle america!!11), that enchanted fargo where meryl streep still falls in love with clint eastwood every late summer.
16:01 ascii_field mircea_popescu: the depth of the contempt that the herders show for this particular variety of sheep is astonishing imho
16:02 mircea_popescu how do you count ?
16:04 ascii_field e.g., 'How Not to Make Planned Parenthood Squirm'
16:04 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:04 ascii_field or, 'What happens to schools in case of a shutdown?'
16:04 ascii_field ^ anyone with half a neuron in usa knows that schools have nothing directly to do with the fed. gov.
16:05 ascii_field but this site is not angled at folks having this half a neuron or more
16:05 ascii_field and in this way is ~entirely~ typical for 'right wing usa'
16:07 ascii_field in the british world, 'daily mail' plays same role.
16:08 * mircea_popescu tends to remember obama goons trying to "close down parks" because hey.
16:08 mircea_popescu apparently trees standing also have something to do with the inept government.
16:09 ascii_field this is at least partly engineered for the purpose of reminding the more uppity members of the public that 'if you want to oppose transgendered studies scholarships, fine, but you will do so in the company of people who believe that cancer is caused by demons'
16:10 mircea_popescu irrespective.
16:10 ascii_field see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260662
16:10 assbot Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.
16:11 mircea_popescu but this isn't a market.
16:11 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu another 'pr' pregunta : how do you see it being funded given that there's more than just time required ?
16:11 ascii_field similarly, it is made clear that if you wish to oppose some particular usgism, you can do so in the company of impotent flat-earther twerps to your heart's content
16:11 pete_dushenski bbias. crying !
16:11 pete_dushenski (not my crying)
16:12 ascii_field it is what 'fox news', for instance, is made for.
16:12 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you get clients, work on their projects. like anyone else.
16:12 mircea_popescu this theory is unpersuasive.
16:12 mircea_popescu it's like "water's own weight will keep the water up".
16:12 mircea_popescu sure, for as long as you got an igloo.
16:13 * jurov finally came around to build 0.5.4-TEST2, if it sync, it will be new node
16:13 mircea_popescu in general any company is better than usg company by now, and consequently this approach, if it ever was seriously entertained, fails.
16:13 mircea_popescu cool jurov
16:13 ascii_field no, not any.
16:13 mircea_popescu now for chat in eulora ? :D
16:13 ascii_field the designated zoo of impotence is a dead end.
16:13 ascii_field it is same usg, but a special holding pen therein.
16:14 ascii_field lipsticked up to be somehow superficially 'opposition'
16:14 ascii_field a la zhirinovsky in late su.
16:17 jurov in other news, it may turn out my recent mental stupor was primarily not due to allergy, but lithium deficiency
16:17 jurov started taking a mineral water for this, seems to have improved, will see
16:17 mircea_popescu that's a thing ?
16:17 ascii_field ^
16:17 ascii_field was about to say
16:18 mircea_popescu i wasn't aware there's a lithium biological carry.
16:18 jurov i'm as sceptical as anyone. but it wa desperate
16:18 mircea_popescu zinc maybe. various other rare metals.
16:18 mircea_popescu but anyway.
16:19 jurov it was pointedly not a zinc, i was taking that one for some time
16:19 mircea_popescu aok
16:20 mircea_popescu general population is usually zinc deprived, and as a result most infections are drastically ameliorated by a little zinc intake
16:23 pete_dushenski ;;google sources of dietary zinc
16:23 gribble zinc - The World's Healthiest Foods: <http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=115>; Zinc — Health Professional Fact Sheet - Office of Dietary Supplements: <https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-HealthProfessional/>; Top 10 Foods Highest in Zinc - HealthAliciousNess . com: <http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/zinc.php>
16:24 mircea_popescu http://freebeacon.com/national-security/phony-ambassador-running-obamas-anti-islamic-state-diplomacy/ << in other lulz.
16:24 assbot Phony Ambassador Running Obama's Anti-Islamic State Diplomacy - Washington Free Beacon ... ( http://bit.ly/1VroVGD )
16:24 mircea_popescu obama now appoints his own ambassadors, senate rubberstamp too expensive.
16:24 pete_dushenski #7: Cocoa and Chocolate (Cocoa Powder) << maybe *this* is why i've been craving hot chocolate the last month or so.
16:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.000685 = 15.0015 BTC [+]
16:24 ascii_field eh, jimmy carter 'practiced diplomacy without a license' for decades.
16:24 ascii_field no jail.
16:25 mircea_popescu "Until last night when the Free Beacon contacted the State Department to inquire about the discrepancy, McGurk’s official biography on the State Department website also falsely credited McGurk with the rank of ambassador."
16:25 mircea_popescu lulzy.
16:25 ascii_field 'rule of law' is for plebes
16:25 ascii_field in usa as in su.
16:25 mircea_popescu ftr Gina Chon is kinda hot.
16:28 pete_dushenski http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/sports/football/As-Worries-Rise-and-Players-Flee-a-Missouri-School-Board-Cuts-Football.html << i was expecting 'due to funding' but it's actually 'due to lack of players' !
16:28 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vrp9gU )
16:29 pete_dushenski why don't kids want to play this popular usian sport ? injuries.
16:29 pete_dushenski safety.
16:29 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Yeah that started last year.
16:29 pete_dushenski these kids are worse than their mothers !
16:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.000685 = 14.1453 BTC [+]
16:30 pete_dushenski i guess compared to being on your phone twixting your assistant prof, anything is dangerous
16:30 thestringpuller the lifespan of a football player's career is fairly small
16:30 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo frankly, good on 'em
16:30 pete_dushenski thestringpuller exactly that. and when they're done, they're done like dinner
16:31 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: The sport really isn't for rich kids from Maplewood anyways.
16:31 thestringpuller ^they play tennis
16:31 thestringpuller and sometimes golf
16:32 pete_dushenski country club sports. as you do.
16:32 thestringpuller I would expect the midwest to have baseball as the top sport.
16:32 phf mircea_popescu: you know it was just b-a of the 1800s. << i think of b-a as more of a stonemasone guild, then a fraternity. maybe in a couple of hundred years when b-a has hereditary wot ratings and ceremonial pgp keys that are not otherwise used for anything. the way i read that joke is that one has the trappings and the other has a trowel that is used for its direct purpose.
16:32 mircea_popescu i dun think i'd encourage any kid to play "professional" school sports. they don't get paid (no, 'scholarship' is not pay like coupons are not refunds) ; b) it's really fucking unhealthy. i mean being in shape is one thing. being "an athlete" is about as unhealthy as being a diabethic.
16:32 mircea_popescu phf well sure.
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16:33 ascii_field mircea_popescu has it. and for sporty types, last i checked, there ~were~ sports that don't guarantee braindamage
16:33 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: unhealthy mentally maybe, but all the athletes I know are physically fit like no other.
16:33 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu being 'an athelete' is indeed a dangerous and unhealthful proposition.
16:33 ascii_field i have always seen american football as emblematic of usian anti-intellectualism. glorifying concussions, yes.
16:33 pete_dushenski thestringpuller you ~look~ vigorous and strong, but are as fragile as they come.
16:34 ascii_field not a real sport unless brain leaks from ears, nose.
16:34 ascii_field if you ask american.
16:34 pete_dushenski 'can do X excellently but can't tie shoelaces w/o tearing acl'
16:34 mircea_popescu trinque we need that jobs board yo, teh cup runneth fulleth.
16:34 mircea_popescu then pete_dushenski can take as his first project promoting the jobs board :D
16:34 mircea_popescu thestringpuller give them a decade until all the hair bone cracks and microtorn ligaments start acting up
16:36 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu (jobs board) that! (scars of 'athleticism') that again!
16:36 pete_dushenski then again, there aren't many avenues for teaching mental toughness and discipline outside of sports in north america
16:36 pete_dushenski unless i'm being insufficiently creative
16:37 pete_dushenski still a hard trade-off to made : mental for physical
16:37 mircea_popescu and in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/4604d880d504b6a49e4ad43b9bfeeaa8/tumblr_nlosxph2rz1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg
16:37 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VrpyQx )
16:37 pete_dushenski make*
16:37 thestringpuller pete_dushenski:
16:37 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski so teach em to ride a horse.
16:38 pete_dushenski lol wouldn't that be an idea
16:38 thestringpuller pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu maybe for contact sports. But the runners are like one step from being a robot.
16:39 mircea_popescu they're still pushing it too hard. not as dangerous in running, sure. but school performance is running the 100meters in fifteen seconds, not trying for eight.
16:41 pete_dushenski well it's our first date afternoon/evening, both free from le petit monstre, so i'm off. cheers !!
16:43 BingoBoingo <ascii_field> i have always seen american football as emblematic of usian anti-intellectualism. glorifying concussions, yes. << It's a tournament, or more a lottery market deal. It's for the poor kids to fight for the chance to make all the money they'll be able to for four years after the drop out of college in teir senior year
16:43 BingoBoingo "Opportunity" and all those buzzwords
16:44 BingoBoingo Then they build a mythology about how Maximum Concussion Sport is the epitome of Opportunity and the chance to earn your own social justice.
16:45 BingoBoingo Canada does this too with Hockey.
16:48 phf ascii_field: or ru films where a murder suspect is not even in handcuffs! << aha "На Севере, на его участках лесных Пеле и Мыке, Вае и Ветрянке, заключенные при перегоне (заключенные ведь не ходят, их «гоняют», это официальный словарь) требовали связать руки за спиной, чтоб конвой не м
16:48 phf подвергались смертельной опасности. «Убитых при попытке к бегству» было очень много."
16:49 BingoBoingo The big problem with American Football is that it is actually a combat sport, but a polite consensus has developed around not referring to it as such
16:51 mircea_popescu lafond has a pretty good point re the "yo mamma's gonna cash out on being the mother of a got-shot".
16:51 mircea_popescu this is like that except with less shot. technically a step up
16:55 BingoBoingo At least boxing was more honest about the crippling yourself for others amusement there. If you work hard enough and get good enough your head doesn't get hit as much. American football hitting your head against things is kinda mandatory.
16:56 BingoBoingo Recently they've been introducing new rules to football to penalize you from hitting otherpeople's heads in certain ways, but hitting your head is still mandatory.
16:58 mircea_popescu the head being actually a more advantageous place to be hit in than the liver, yeah you get hit.
16:58 trinque mircea_popescu | trinque we need that jobs board yo, teh cup runneth fulleth. << indeed! I estimate having something usable by the end of next weekend
16:58 mircea_popescu btw, you ever saw that incredible fight where romania's best boxer was totally gutted ?
16:58 mircea_popescu splendeed trinque
16:58 BingoBoingo I don't think I have
16:59 mircea_popescu ;;google doroftei gatti
16:59 gribble Arturo Gatti v Leonard Dorin - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HOLlJufq9w>; DOROFTEI KO - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6txpxNJjrGw>; Arturo Gatti vs Leonard Dorin [Full Fight] - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8hBopWt_zM>
17:00 * mircea_popescu still recalls the shock of that.
17:09 BingoBoingo Related http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/generals-sought-more-positive-coverage-document-shows.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
17:09 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4Fcjm )
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17:36 phf https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/30/everyone-you-know-will-be-able-to-rate-you-on-the-terrifying-yelp-for-people-whether-you-want-them-to-or-not/
17:36 assbot Everyone you know will be able to rate you on the terrifying ‘Yelp for people’ — whether you want them to or not - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgDFYj )
17:37 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:37 ascii_field libelomatic.
17:42 BingoBoingo Linked from the libelotron piece https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/09/24/i-tried-out-cuddlr-the-tinder-for-cuddling-and-all-i-got-was-severely-creeped-out/
17:42 assbot I tried out Cuddlr, the ‘Tinder for cuddling,’ and all I got was severely creeped out - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkPMVl )
17:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00067813 = 10.7145 BTC [-]
17:46 trinque ;;later tell funkenstein sadly, new parser ripped up your last deed. happily, the part it ingested included the signature. I've since sent the whole thing back through, and it should pop out shortly.
17:46 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:47 trinque I will keep the torn-off signature up there under block 376696.
17:48 trinque it seems that ply parsers are one-shot, or I've missed something. So far my observation is that if you call parse successively on the same parser object, it misbehaves
17:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14395 @ 0.000685 = 9.8606 BTC [+]
17:56 BingoBoingo Fuck Yes http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/pinkel-confirms-lock-will-start-vs-gamecocks/article_bd300dc7-de03-577a-bc07-05ac470c16ac.html
17:56 assbot Pinkel confirms Lock will start vs. Gamecocks : Sports ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgFogk )
18:00 BingoBoingo Following from http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2015/9/29/dear-gary-make-us-care/
18:00 assbot Please Gary: Do the right thing – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgFIeW )
18:01 * ascii_field would rather read his spam box than anything pertaining to football, and doesn't foresee this ever changing
18:03 punkman trinque: well you can't get nested structures by parsing the same string twice, it's gotta go in the grammar?
18:05 trinque punkman: grammar wasn't the problem, as I did not change it to fix his deed
18:06 trinque just started instantiating whatever ply object it is every time I go to parse
18:06 trinque seems stupid, yet I don't have the time currently to discover why
18:06 trinque grammar's just looking for headers, footers, and whatever
18:06 BingoBoingo * ascii_field would rather read his spam box than anything pertaining to football, and doesn't foresee this ever changing << Oh just highlighting the other aspect, something not meaningful which people are directed to rage about instead of their cattle pen
18:08 ascii_field phun phakt: i was once told, by a reliable source, that RAND corp., in its glory days, would NOT hire any man who confessed to taking an interest in football.
18:09 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
18:10 BingoBoingo In its glory days football was not the monster it is at present
18:10 ascii_field and yet !
18:11 BingoBoingo Now http://www.rand.org/blog/2014/11/adults-are-concerned-about-sons-playing-football-especially.html
18:11 assbot Adults Are Concerned About Sons Playing Football, Especially the More Highly Educated and Obama 2012 Voters | RAND ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkTQoC )
18:11 BingoBoingo Now RAND Copro cares
18:14 cazalla if i was american, i think i'd rather choose brain damage in sports over video games and ham planeting for my kids
18:28 mats vidya games are how i got into programming
18:32 mats skywing (ken johnson, guy that patented 'aslr') reversed the battle.net login protocol, and i used his documentation to write a chat client so i didn't have to keep starcraft open to maintain ops in a channel
18:38 cazalla yeah but for every one of you mats there is a million hamplanets playing cod, much better to be outside playing football (sure, watching is boring, but playing?)
18:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14753 @ 0.000685 = 10.1058 BTC [+]
18:39 mats sure, just wanted to share
18:43 mats folks that've read 'Uninformed' might recognize ken from his RE work on patchguard
18:48 mats http://poppopret.org/2013/12/18/reverse-engineering-a-furby
18:48 assbot Reverse Engineering a Furby | Michael Coppola's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkYL96 )
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19:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18024 @ 0.00068334 = 12.3165 BTC [-]
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19:52 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289073 << take up a dog or cat then - far better than footballer kid.
19:52 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 22:14:53; cazalla: if i was american, i think i'd rather choose brain damage in sports over video games and ham planeting for my kids
19:53 asciilifeform nor does football or not have anything causal to do with 'becoming hamplanet' (it is virtually impossible without 'fast food')
19:54 BingoBoingo Or guide the kid into tennis et al
19:54 asciilifeform 'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such
19:54 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> 'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such << Pretty much
19:56 BingoBoingo Though former footballers often fall into the spiritual poverty of hamplanetary orbit after their "career" ends
19:56 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Bitcoin to drop under $190 before Jan 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1210/bitcoin-to-drop-under-190-before-jan-2016/#b5
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20:00 BingoBoingo The unnatural dietary and chemical excesses involved in high level football, when you remove the atheletics and chemical excesses amount to hamplanetary fast food consumption.
20:05 BingoBoingo The hamplanetary lack of physical activity goes beyond lack of physical exercise to lack of ordinary human movement. i.e. using scooty puffs at the Walmart to navigate aisles instead of their own feet.
20:07 BingoBoingo It is the physical manifestation of the spiritual and intellectual poverty affecting the US and reddit generally
20:12 Naphex oh Hearn got banned from #b-dev
20:12 asciilifeform l0l!! what's it take to get booted from a leper colony !
20:13 Naphex jgarzik even tried too cry a river over it
20:14 asciilifeform link? (they have log, don't they..?)
20:15 Naphex http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/09/29
20:15 assbot BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6ceBe )
20:19 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu what do you think of the notion of no longer relaying shitgnomatic tx-en - e.g., ANYTHING with 'soft fork' bits set, etc. ?
20:19 gribble The operation succeeded.
20:20 asciilifeform this'd be the ultimate 'vote with nodes', aha
20:20 asciilifeform 'use actual bitcoin or fuck off', roughly.
20:20 phf in philly i know a handful of "linebacker in college", who got "just a little bit out of shape", i.e. where former muscle if there was ever any all got turned into fat. that's people who are, when drunk, prone to challenging each other and me when i'm there to various acts of physical fitness, usually to fail miserably.
20:22 phf all die hard eagles fans of course
20:25 asciilifeform http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/09/29#l1443550863.0 << l0l! same 'linux foundation' mircea_popescu has a fatwa out against ?!
20:25 assbot BitcoinStats ... ( http://bit.ly/1P6cMqP )
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20:44 BingoBoingo phf: Linebackers tend to start out kinda fat already.
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21:02 VariaVarietatis ;;later tell pete_dushenski I'd be willing to help with the PR.
21:02 gribble The operation succeeded.
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21:19 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289083 <<< dog or cat is not a sport nor competitive endeavour and given we no longer go out and hunt as a group, it's the next best thing for kids to learn how to follow a leader, work with others, learn from other men how to be masculine, physically and mentally challenge others
21:19 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 23:52:21; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289073 << take up a dog or cat then - far better than footballer kid.
21:19 cazalla obviously doesn't have to be football, but if that's the american past time, then let them play football
21:22 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289087 <<< what's this.. fat but fit, healthy at any weight meme? i think it more likely that a physically active person is not going to be a hamplanet.. obviously the lack of real food is a problem but only part of the problem
21:22 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 23:54:38; asciilifeform: 'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such
21:24 BingoBoingo cazalla: Many heavier people like Prince Fielder and linebackers are well exercised with some extra adipose tissue. Hamplanet chooses to utilize adipose tissue as a fortress for their spiritual poverty.
21:26 cazalla i guess it doesn't matter anyway as american kids are now trans gender fags so you would have difficulty filling a football team full of boys who actually want to pummel the other team
21:30 adlai deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0RFBXMV.txt
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21:30 deedbot- accepted: 1
21:33 btcdrak https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n18en/mike_hearn_banned_from_bitcoindev_sept29/
21:33 assbot Mike Hearn banned from #bitcoin-dev Sept/29 : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHEo39 )
21:34 btcdrak That thread is hilarious
21:34 btcdrak looks like people are beginning to see past the veil...
21:41 BingoBoingo Sweet
21:41 BingoBoingo !up brg444
21:48 brg444 huh, about linebackers, I was under the impression they are all pretty much physical specimen
21:48 brg444 at least pro level linebackers are
21:48 brg444 re:hearn forking himself off #b-dev : hilarious
21:49 brg444 dude is about on the verge of claiming he's Satoshi
21:49 BingoBoingo brg444: Pro sure. College they tend to keep a little extra adipose weight on for the blocking potential
21:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17250 @ 0.00068403 = 11.7995 BTC [+]
21:50 BingoBoingo Then after college it often takes a couple years to get up to weight at a lean "pro" weight
21:50 brg444 and typically don't have access to NFL level strength training
21:51 BingoBoingo Or the time. They can grow a lot of strength over the four years of college, but often they need more injury free time.
21:52 brg444 Don't think this can be generalized
21:52 brg444 lots of time they have to bulk up as well
21:53 BingoBoingo Yeah
21:53 BingoBoingo But bulking muscle takes years as opposed to weeks bulking adipose does.
21:54 BingoBoingo In the college games schools like Bama tend to horde the genetic freaks who can pack on pro-level muscle over the college career.
21:54 brg444 was about to say: depends on the athlete indeed
21:54 BingoBoingo And LSU has a tendency to catch shorter genetic freaks that do the same, but due to height slot into running back
21:55 phf lsu?
21:55 brg444 baton rouge
21:55 phf oh i see
21:56 brg444 BingoBoingo: these days some of these kids come with pro level muscle in HS though :/
21:57 BingoBoingo Yes they do. Mizzou was luck to snag Terry Beckner Jr. this year. Giant from East Saint Louis. No need to redshirt him.
21:57 brg444 see Fournette most recently
21:57 brg444 freaky
21:57 BingoBoingo Fournette is... prolly getting the Heisman
21:58 brg444 likely, thought Chubb would have a chance but at this point..
21:59 BingoBoingo Chubb is handicapped by playing for Georgia which is going to have 1 or 2 embarrassing losses as is Georgia tradition.
22:01 brg444 he a sophomore too right?
22:01 BingoBoingo Maybe?
22:02 BingoBoingo When Mizzou plays Georgia this year I'm hoping we can just aim Beckner Jr. at him all game.
22:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32800 @ 0.00068351 = 22.4191 BTC [-] {3}
22:04 BingoBoingo But at least fucking Mauk is suspended 1 game.
22:05 brg444 What's up with the SEC though :D:D
22:10 BingoBoingo I dunno. West other than Arkansas and Auburn looking good. Prolly Ole Miss or LSU to win the conference. East as it usually is is a mystery until the last day of play.
22:11 BingoBoingo At least Mizzou swept its non-conference schedule
22:13 BingoBoingo In other news, state of the art in American Fast Food innovation "priority" seating http://imageham.com/images/2015/09/30/imageab1b4.jpg
22:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GiLPcb )
22:15 brg444 I'm generally bored w/ football so far this season, most NFL teams are terrible
22:15 brg444 don't see the need for these "priority"
22:16 brg444 who'd shame themselves "dining" in at these places
22:18 BingoBoingo Hamplanets in their spiritual poverty.
22:18 BingoBoingo <brg444> I'm generally bored w/ football so far this season, most NFL teams are terrible << I hope the NFL leaves St Louis.
22:23 brg444 the Hearnia is really sore, this is good
22:24 BingoBoingo lol
22:24 brg444 of course he'd claim he fucking created SPV, wouldn't expect anything else of him
22:25 BingoBoingo The Hearnia can likely in this case be treated non-surgically with a Truss
22:25 BingoBoingo Old school style
22:26 BingoBoingo http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/inguinal-hernia/expert-answers/hernia-truss/faq-20058111
22:26 assbot Hernia truss: Can it help an inguinal hernia? - Mayo Clinic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vopeal )
22:27 brg444 wouldn't help with the kick in the balls he's gonna continue to get until he dares no more to show his face
22:28 brg444 i say we just be done with the whole area there. not that there'd be much to remove
22:29 brg444 do away I should say*
22:29 BingoBoingo Well, he's prolly been kicked there to the point of torsion
22:37 brg444 still amazes me someone out there can turn on/off nearly 100,000,000 GH/S with the flick of a wrist
22:41 BingoBoingo Not really.
22:44 brg444 no?
22:48 BingoBoingo Not at all.
22:48 BingoBoingo Some miners have to pay for electricity.
22:53 BingoBoingo !up DreadKnight
22:53 BingoBoingo !up TomServo
22:54 brg444 how is it that these variance seem coordinated by one or small group of actors? and if they do control that much hashing why would they have to pay for electricity
22:54 brg444 or maybe I'm just reading too much into a couple of charts...
22:56 BingoBoingo Maybe reading too much. Maybe finding a trend.
22:56 BingoBoingo But generally except for a few lucky chinese miners, the farms have to pay for electricity
22:58 mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-October/000169.html
22:58 assbot [BTC-dev] The Bitcoin Foundation: STATE OF BITCOIN ADDRESS ... ( http://bit.ly/1YPOq8V )
22:59 brg444 do they really...? i'm often curious if it is not "subsidized"
23:02 BingoBoingo It maybe.
23:02 asciilifeform ;;later tell mod6 ~Kelvin~ versioning
23:02 gribble The operation succeeded.
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23:21 mod6 thx asciilifeform, i knew that didn't look right.
23:21 mod6 :}
23:27 BingoBoingo http://tinyhousetalk.com/not-tiny-but-i-like-tiny-houses/
23:27 assbot I Like Tiny Houses But I'm Not Tiny, What Do I Do? ... ( http://bit.ly/1YPS2ru )
23:28 BingoBoingo http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/09/30/2043255/legal-loophole-offers-volkswagen-criminal-immunity
23:28 assbot Legal Loophole Offers Volkswagen Criminal Immunity - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1YPSczd )
23:29 BingoBoingo ^ Looks like MP is right
23:29 cazalla deedbot- http://qntra.net/0915.txt
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23:29 deedbot- accepted: 1
23:29 deedbot- [Qntra] Qntra (S.QNTR) September 2015 Statement - http://qntra.net/2015/10/qntra-s-qntr-september-2015-statement/
23:39 BingoBoingo !up tripleslash
23:43 tripleslash hi kids
23:43 BingoBoingo Hai
23:44 tripleslash I should change my wot nick so I can auth
23:44 BingoBoingo Mebbe
23:45 BingoBoingo http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/sports/catching-up-with-the-obannon-ruling-soon-to-go-into-effect.html?_r=0
23:45 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1YPU7UA )
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