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00:25 punkman mircea_popescu: Since Ether went live he has disappeared and refused to discuss the issue anymore, and it is unlikely anyone could've collected from him at any point. << and they didn't even have the anton story?
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00:28 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CP722YKU8AAqoD2.png:large
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02:09 punkman https://theintercept.com/2015/09/28/death-athens-rogue-nsa-operation/
02:09 assbot Did a Rogue NSA Operation Cause the Death of a Greek Telecom Employee? ... ( http://bit.ly/1VkcCky )
02:09 punkman !s athens affair
02:09 assbot 2 results for 'athens affair' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=athens+affair
02:10 punkman "Last February, Greek authorities took the extraordinary step of issuing an international arrest warrant for a CIA official the Greeks believe was a key figure in the operation while based in Athens. Unnoticed by the U.S. press, the warrant was a nearly unprecedented action by an allied country. The intelligence official, identified as William George Basil, was accused of espionage and eavesdropping."
02:15 punkman "“The Greeks identified terrorist nets, so NSA put these devices in there and they told the Greeks, OK, when it’s done we’ll turn it off,” said the source. “They put them in the Athens communications system, with the knowledge and approval of the Greek government. This was to help with security during the Olympics.”"
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03:06 cazalla http://8ch.net/b/src/1443509910974.webm
03:11 BingoBoingo punkman: Seems like motive enough for the NSA to do the systemd turd
03:14 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287253 << i dunno that it is. honestly, "Race relations" in the sense of, here's a 10-15% ish scapegoat minority is the lulz of all time. same role the gypsies play in romania, same exact role of the small rus / white rus whatever in russian rhetoric, what the fuck are the ukrainians gonna do, bleed on everyone ?
03:14 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 01:13:18; phf: i know it's not just la fond, but he's particularly adept at this subject
03:14 mircea_popescu there's 2k years' worth of actual social science being amused at lafond's "hi world i'm an ex boxer lemme tell you how the world looks through my glass" schtick.
03:15 mircea_popescu uh-oh dem niggaz gun git our womenz!
03:16 mircea_popescu meanwhile if you look at the actual demographics involved the loss of identity, cultural, biological, you name it has been MORE marked for the minority and is certainly going faster.
03:17 mircea_popescu fifty years ago, back when they were "opressed" us blacks ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING. meanwhile they've been... liberated out of it.
03:17 punkman http://uncouthreflections.com/2013/12/22/nine-years-of-alya/
03:17 assbot Nine Years of Alya | Uncouth Reflections ... ( http://bit.ly/1PKREoa )
03:19 mircea_popescu punkman that's nothing. i suspect the pedigree of "women with a sexual market value" will in the future require full coverage much like the sale of cattle and other biomaterial includes full documentation by default today.
03:20 mircea_popescu "where's your profile pic" of the 90s gave way to the "where's your instagram account" of the 2000s which gave way to "you make and send nude selfies on demand as a prequal" of today which will give way to something, dat much is fo sho.
03:20 mircea_popescu so if your daughter's born recently, she has 50-50 odds of living her entire life publicly nude.
03:21 mircea_popescu imagine telling her about "the world before cellphones" as her mom lived it.
03:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51050 @ 0.00071676 = 36.5906 BTC [+] {4}
03:24 mircea_popescu "Atypical Neurotic. An Illinois-born refugee from academia who in late middle-age finds himself a civil servant in Norway. An unashamed city-dweller, he walks 30 minutes every day to a job where he is not paid to be an economist (lawyer or accountant), only to sound like one."
03:24 mircea_popescu heh.
03:25 mircea_popescu pretty impressive blog tho i must say.
03:26 mircea_popescu is this what two blowhards turned into ? or unrelated ?
03:27 punkman no idea, just stumbled on that post
03:29 mircea_popescu "The most important consequence of the Papal Revolution was that it introduced into Western history the experience of revolution itself."
03:29 mircea_popescu i mean for the holy name of Trompi, they like even know shit and whatnot.
03:30 mircea_popescu (yes, lenin is a bit player in a story that marx didn't start, and the french didn't start. the stone fell i nthe lake long long ago.)
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03:33 mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-cM5FLTGhU << fundamental "i'ma dress up like gregory an' preach" fantasy enaction.
03:33 assbot The Great Dictator - Speech to Humanity | HD - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NYSUF9 )
03:36 punkman is trompi the romanian dumbo?
03:37 mircea_popescu nah. trompi is a putative divinity introduced by a comic strip. he's more mysterious than the fsm in that outside of me and those guys nobody even references it.
03:39 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> fifty years ago, back when they were "opressed" us blacks ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING. meanwhile they've been... liberated out of it. << He's got bits of that scattered around though he does focus on the "liberated" younger generations
03:41 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo his approach is fundamentally broken, fwiw. "oh, be in shape and you'll..." you'll what ? you'll die, just like everyone else. what's it gonna do, exactly ? he keeps spinning these... what they are is basically "believable superman strips". self-contained submarine-jetfighter except you know, not actually THAT capable, so the weakness of the "self-contained" fantasy is a little harder to put under fire.
03:42 mircea_popescu there's nothing wrong with it, obviously. and the freshness of perspective is welcome, certainly. and i enjoy reading them, generally.
03:42 BingoBoingo Oh his approach is broken as fuck
03:43 mircea_popescu but i dunno that anyone actually sees them the way sake makes phf fear anyone sees them.
03:43 mircea_popescu heck, all the fucktarded broken software stack would really not be a point of concern if all it took was you know, hitting the gym three times a week and not being over 60.
03:43 mircea_popescu yet here we are.
03:44 mircea_popescu da fuck would i need bitcoin for, in a world where the win criteria is "work out a little".
03:44 BingoBoingo It's like the people who stockpile all the stuff for collapse even if it really means they get robbed first
03:45 mircea_popescu in that range anyway.
03:46 mircea_popescu heck, i could do without needing a spylist longer than most serial monogamists' ex-fucks list just to keep things slightly above water.
03:48 BingoBoingo People are going to do what they are going to do. Some are going to run stock exchanges while others ride the bus to work the grocery store.
03:49 mircea_popescu word.
03:49 mircea_popescu and honestly, if i'm going to ride the bus once, i'd much rather ride it with lafond than plenty of other people.
03:53 BingoBoingo This civilization has got to have some sort of sorting. Just prolly doesn't scale past 1-10 million people really.
03:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40887 @ 0.00070808 = 28.9513 BTC [-] {5}
03:54 mircea_popescu his method works for any arbitrary number, providerd of course they never exist in groups larger than a few hundred and those groups are strictly separated.
03:55 mircea_popescu which is amusingly biographical : fighter circuit consists of groups of a few hundred people (the boxer, his team, people at his club, his social acquaintances etc) that come together under very strictly controlled setting (matches) and otherwise are very strictly separated.
03:55 mircea_popescu this way of life can obviously only exist for as long as you know... it's not universal.
03:55 mircea_popescu but the fantasy is alive and well, hence "hunger games" and whatnot.
03:56 mircea_popescu i expect ~half the various anarcho-this and that, so-and-so-punks etc are pretty much equal to that when it comes to social organizing. "let's all live as dunbar number communes in the desert, inaccessible from one another like."
03:57 mircea_popescu hence the interest of things that are predicated on breaking that imagined wall (say - madmax ?)
03:59 BingoBoingo Seems likely.
04:12 cazalla BingoBoingo, i know ya got a big stockpile of liquor
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04:26 mircea_popescu well, he has been trying to.
04:26 mircea_popescu problem is the stockpile keeps getting drunk.
04:28 cazalla i know that feel
04:28 mircea_popescu first google hit for "blackstone" ? http://www.bks-motors.com/
04:28 mircea_popescu "Somos una empresa líder en la venta de cuatriciclos deportivos y Agrarios Blackstone. Contamos con una alta cobertura de repuestos y servicios de post- venta."
04:33 mircea_popescu and in random lulz, http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/08/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/
04:33 assbot The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia (Updated) | Veterans Today ... ( http://bit.ly/1LYXyi1 )
04:33 mircea_popescu "Note: The history of the Khazarians, specifically the Khazarian Mafia (KM), the World’s largest Organized Crime Syndicate that the Khazarian oligarchy morphed into by their deployment of Babylonian Money-Magick, has been nearly completely excised from the history books."
04:34 mircea_popescu but wait! there's more... http://humansarefree.com/2014/09/the-top-of-pyramid-rothschilds-british.html
04:34 assbot The Top of the Pyramid: The Rothschilds, the Vatican and the British Crown Rule World | Humans Are Free ... ( http://bit.ly/1LYXzCx )
04:34 mircea_popescu "Barack Obama is the current CEO of the USA Corporation and
04:34 mircea_popescu the gold-fringed flags in the background stand for "ruled from abroad.""
04:34 mircea_popescu i must admit i'm a little confused by the internet.
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04:40 deedbot- [Trilema] In numele lui Trompi! - http://trilema.com/2015/in-numele-lui-trompi/
04:49 mircea_popescu punkman ^
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05:16 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/2T7H1KG << mildly curious if it gets published.
05:16 assbot dpaste: 2T7H1KG ... ( http://bit.ly/1FERFK9 )
05:26 mircea_popescu http://www.fredoneverything.net./COL1.shtml << lolk.
05:27 mircea_popescu looking through that site - seems the average lifetime of a "serious" blog is in the hundreds. i would guess from my own experience less than 1% of a personal attempt survives the 1k articles mark.
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05:28 mircea_popescu The following, which gives the flavor, is from Andrea Dworkin, who I gather is a sort of museum-piece siege howitzer for feminism. It's pretty much how they all talk. Listen:
05:28 mircea_popescu "Men use the night to erase us...The annihilation of a woman's personality, individuality, will, character, is prerequisite to male sexuality, and so the night is the sacred time of male sexual celebration, because it is dark and in the dark it is easier not to see: not to see who she is. Male sexuality, drunk on its intrinsic contempt for all life, but especially for women's lives, can run wild, hunt down random victi
05:28 mircea_popescu ms, use the dark for cover, find in the dark solace, sanctuary, cover."
05:29 mircea_popescu incidentally - dvorkin happens to be pretty much correct. male sexuality IS fundamentally contempt for all life. not for life in particular, but for life in the universal, for the life of maggots and cockroaches and everything else teemingly and indistinctly alive. and as such it is both fundamentally important and functionally required,
05:29 mircea_popescu it keeps women from devolving into the wasp nest dvorkin'd live in, of her own devices.
05:30 mircea_popescu that's the gender role since the begining : woman spits out maggots from her maggot hole and man figures out which she may get to keep.
05:34 mircea_popescu "Why is schooling so poor for black children? To begin with, because blacks have little enthusiasm for academics. Blacks have demonstrated for an end to discrimination, more welfare, less brutality by police, greater rights, more pay, and greater respect. They do not march for more homework, harder courses, thicker texts with larger words and smaller pictures."
05:34 mircea_popescu ahaha ok.
05:34 HeySteve ah Fred on everything, he's a very enjoyable read
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05:38 HeySteve haven't seen his new stuff on WordPress, think my morning plans just changed
05:38 mircea_popescu it is an astonishingly beautiful point. it generally takes a ~bright~ and very talented slavegirl 18 months or more before her desires go from more chocolate and less beatings to being given harder tasks. and she finds herself in an incredibly powerful, carefully engineered self-improvement-atron.
05:39 mircea_popescu so why are blacks marching for "respect" which can not be given, instead of marching for "more homework" which would instantly, and absolutedly, deliver that respect ? EARNED respect ?
05:39 mircea_popescu "we're poor, hungry and tired" "so what do you want ?" "more work."
05:39 HeySteve perhaps the concept of earned has been destroyed by handouts
05:40 mircea_popescu concepts can't be destroyed.
05:40 HeySteve well, in their minds
05:40 mircea_popescu i guess handouts rot the brain.
05:41 HeySteve "what you subsidise you get more of, what you tax you get less of"
05:41 HeySteve state has been subsidising failure for decades
05:41 HeySteve and of course, taxing success
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05:44 HeySteve a good example is welfare for single mothers, previously spawning bastards was socially-discouraged for good reason
05:45 HeySteve then the state got involved and illegitimacy rates (which are strongly correlated with criminality) skyrocketed
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05:47 mircea_popescu http://fredoneverything.org/thumpathumpthump-here-come-trump-pols-have-knickers-in-knot/ << his piece on trump is quite well put.
05:47 assbot Thumpathumpthump, Here Come Trump: Pols Have Knickers in Knot | Fred On Everything ... ( http://bit.ly/1h6l1VU )
05:47 mircea_popescu HeySteve what's the good reason ?
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05:50 HeySteve it's related to what you said about gender roles, with no father to do quality control you get bad outcomes
05:51 mircea_popescu so why do you propose to fix what's working ?
05:51 mircea_popescu those women on welfare, with a dozen kids, ARE doing their job, right ? and splendidly at that, natality ain't easy.
05:51 mircea_popescu (and if you think it is - go ahead and try it.)
05:52 HeySteve it's population inflation
05:53 mircea_popescu "inflation" only makes sense in a fungible space.
05:53 mircea_popescu humans aren't fungible.
05:53 mircea_popescu to put that objection in more practically comprehensible terms : if you live in a village of 100, the prettiest girl you ever see in your life will be ugly.
05:53 HeySteve well, dominant ideology says there fungible
05:53 mircea_popescu if you live in a country of 1mn, you'll see some passible ass.
05:53 HeySteve they're*
05:54 mircea_popescu in a world of a billion, you will never ever reach the end of breathtaking.
05:55 HeySteve well, debt-based system requires endless growth, of population and everything else
05:55 mircea_popescu that's a whole other conundrum
05:56 HeySteve so if middle-class aren't reproducing like they used to, subsidise reproduction of lower class
05:56 HeySteve but this debases the "population supply" eventually
05:57 HeySteve I guess you can bring in waves of immigrants too and hope they take out a load of home and car loans
05:58 mircea_popescu reproduction and class are strictly unrelated considerations. in fact, they do not even share any common space at all - there isn't a way to define "class" so that reproduction can be made meaningful or vice-versa.
05:58 HeySteve but the ultimate result is Idiocracy world
05:58 mircea_popescu specifically : do you know how many ottoman sultans had wives ?
05:58 HeySteve no idea, weren't they more about harems?
05:59 mircea_popescu exactly. with the exception of roxy the kidnapped ukrainian, two centuries of high class progeny was carried on the bosoms and thigs of SLAVES.
05:59 mircea_popescu lowest caste women could perfectly finely spawn highest caste men. there's absolutely no relation between class and reproduction.
06:00 HeySteve hmm roxanna, I've heard that story somewhere. I think in an old Sean Connery movie...
06:00 mircea_popescu and she BECAME a free woman. in her lifetime. which is barely lowest -1.
06:00 mircea_popescu roughly equivalent to "naturalized illegal alien" or somesuch today.
06:00 HeySteve mircea_popescu, ok well what I mean is that birth rates are low or negative in developed countries
06:01 mircea_popescu like what, china ?
06:01 mircea_popescu is china developed ?
06:01 HeySteve erm, partially I'd say
06:02 mircea_popescu well then i dunno what you mean. the us has had low birth rate since before it was "developed", ie a century ago. england has had low birth rate throughout it's four centuries of being developed. china had lower birth rate in its undeveloped 80s than it does today.
06:02 HeySteve I think they only hit demographic problems around 2030 or so whereas EU, USA and Japan are already there
06:03 HeySteve well low birth rate is ok imo, it's when it falls below replacement level that ponzis like social security start going bust
06:03 mircea_popescu some races compete on spawn. western european folk (not to be confused with white folk, or for that matter with caucasians) do not.
06:03 HeySteve true, they're more about education
06:03 mircea_popescu there's even a line delineating the "poorly productive females" half of europe, and it was drawn in the 1800s
06:04 mircea_popescu it's not clear that "they're more about education" , or that their cunts just don't work worth a crap.
06:05 mircea_popescu that given, gotta figure something out to survive, and hey, education may be it.
06:06 HeySteve well, there are physiological factors relating to ease of childbirth
06:06 HeySteve and also developmental differences in the offspring
06:06 mircea_popescu yeah. but even the western yurpeans favour narrow waists and wide butts.
06:06 HeySteve also cultural differences in the emphasis placed on parenting and education
06:07 mircea_popescu those differences drastically favour the jews, india and china. perhaps in that order.
06:07 HeySteve of course, state has gotten into the parenting and schooling game in a big way, so things are distorted there
06:08 HeySteve well, it's hard to say how the world will go and which reproductive strategies will be selected for
06:08 mircea_popescu which is perhaps why it's a big idea to stop pestering people.
06:08 mircea_popescu woman has 12 kids and feeds them off 2k income ? good for her.
06:09 HeySteve in a nasty war situation for eg. all that education and child-rearing effort is likely to come to nothing on the battlefield
06:10 mircea_popescu who knows. the venetians spent all their time training the girls to be whores, lost to charles on the field then won in the bedroom.
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06:16 mircea_popescu https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3monji/vitalik_buttering_author_of_ethereum_cannot_even/ << i lolled.
06:16 assbot Vitalik Buttering, author of Ethereum, cannot even figure out how to give out beta test rewards with his own smart contracts, so opts for manual copypasting of Reddit comments with random hex digits in them instead. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1h6pg3Y )
06:20 HeySteve I can't believe people put 37k BTC in that
06:21 mircea_popescu this would be mostly because "people" didn't put 37k in that.
06:21 HeySteve I was looking for a way to do multi-sig with coins pegged to fiat or PM, so investigated Ethereum
06:21 HeySteve seemed confusing and unfocused, got the impression they have no businesspeople involved
06:22 HeySteve who put in the 37k?
06:23 mircea_popescu the whole "ethereum" story is, mr alienface and some junior profs at umaryland scammed that university for a little space and morning coffees ; he lied about the few hundred BTC available as being tens of thousands, and did some fraudulent moves to "prove" this ; he lied about "expenses" to explain why the capital he claimed to have doesn't in fact exist (but hey, he "spent it" for ethereum, which is good and builds ma
06:23 mircea_popescu rket value, right ? notwithstanding that mp has nixed ripple back when it was still called colored coins, and notwithstanding that this ripple reimplementation is even failful-er than the previous one).
06:23 mircea_popescu altogether a marginally better showing than garza's "buyout at $20" plan.
06:23 mircea_popescu about the same budget.
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06:24 mircea_popescu they've mostly (80% or so) burned through the ~10k actual dollars they had available for this highschool play, which is about what you'd exp[ect for six months' entertainment
06:24 mircea_popescu moving on.
06:25 HeySteve hmm. well it's looking like you called another one. what do you think about BitShares? it looks like it can do what I want but seems a little too good to be true
06:25 mircea_popescu just another offshot branch off the same nonsense tree.
06:26 mircea_popescu and with that, ima go eulora. bbl!
06:26 HeySteve enjoy
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08:03 mircea_popescu !up kyrre
08:05 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287262 << hehe. bare ankles in housewives really bothers old whores.
08:05 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 02:15:33; trinque: the nerve of trying to make the argument that what we're seeing in the world today is *russian* military adventurism
08:06 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287284 << i would guess this is what the anton story morphed into.
08:06 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 04:25:15; punkman: mircea_popescu: Since Ether went live he has disappeared and refused to discuss the issue anymore, and it is unlikely anyone could've collected from him at any point. << and they didn't even have the anton story?
08:07 mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CP722YKU8AAqoD2.png:large << clearly, more pki is the solution to pki.
08:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1h5HnH5 )
08:09 mircea_popescu "The intelligence official, identified as William George Basil, was accused of espionage and eavesdropping. But by then he had already left the country, and the U.S. government, as it has done for the past 10 years, continues to stonewall Greek authorities on the agency’s involvement."
08:10 mircea_popescu hey, romania still has an unsatisfied arrest warrant for some us derp that got drunk and ran over some relatively popular singer guy.
08:11 mircea_popescu i would suspect there's more random common law criminals being shielded by the usg from various jurisdictions than there are successful prosecutions in any given year.
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08:31 mircea_popescu a question for the mathematically inclined practical minds in the audience :
08:32 mircea_popescu let there be a monotonous measurable system S. let Mi be measurements made at moments-in-time Ti. let average-per-unit-time delta values be reported for each Ti as Ai = (Mi - Mi-1) / (Ti - Ti-1). let an arbitrary "reporting unit" R be defined so that a finite count of Ti fit in each such unit Rj. Let Ais be plainly averaged so that A' = (Ak +...+ Am) / (m-k) where k, m are the first and last i's for Tis fitting in Rj.
08:32 mircea_popescu what would you say the "intuitive meaning" of A'j is ?
08:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2291 @ 0.00070922 = 1.6248 BTC [-]
08:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00071954 = 16.9092 BTC [+] {3}
08:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53650 @ 0.00072097 = 38.68 BTC [+] {4}
08:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 775344 @ 0.00070371 = 545.6173 BTC [-] {17}
09:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 724656 @ 0.00070039 = 507.5418 BTC [-] {12}
09:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4911 @ 0.00069946 = 3.435 BTC [-]
09:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.000699 = 20.97 BTC [-]
09:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.000699 = 18.6284 BTC [-]
09:18 mircea_popescu o.O
09:18 mircea_popescu check it out, ethereum needed moneyz so it sold its s.mpoe participation.
09:18 mircea_popescu in other news, https://i.chzbgr.com/full/5682494208/hE78C470E/
09:18 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KIaDyn )
09:27 mircea_popescu "Global terrorism is extreme both in its lack of realistic goals and in its cynical exploitation of the vulnerability of complex systems."
09:27 mircea_popescu bwahahaha habermas is not quite as smart as previously believed.
09:28 mircea_popescu hint : a world without complex systems IS a realistic goal. in point of fact, it is the baseline in realism.
09:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63050 @ 0.000699 = 44.072 BTC [+]
09:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35800 @ 0.000699 = 25.0242 BTC [+]
09:46 funkenstein_ good morning radical critics
09:46 funkenstein_ hey that looks like a smoothed derivative
09:47 funkenstein_ "Just like every moral-panic flavoured intellectual fashion of a mostly idle and broadly useless population, this nonsense is not here to stay." <-- nice :)
09:59 HeySteve http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fp_thumb/images/user5/imageroot/glenron.jpg
09:59 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VoCeYr )
09:59 * mircea_popescu waves
09:59 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ "smoothed" ?
09:59 HeySteve hi
10:03 funkenstein_ yeah? one way to describe time averaged is smoothed, so as to not show the variations that happen over short times
10:05 funkenstein_ Hey HeySteve
10:06 funkenstein_ kinda like a bandpass filter of sorts to get rid of high frequency stuff
10:11 mircea_popescu well sure, but...
10:12 mircea_popescu there's no actual guarantee A' is smoother than A.
10:12 mircea_popescu in fact the smoothness comparison is a decent indication of the entropy involved.
10:15 funkenstein_ aha, yeah i can see it
10:17 funkenstein_ it is said that in chaotic systems power goes from low frequencies to high frequencies
10:21 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
10:21 mircea_popescu o look who's here. how's lyf alf ?
10:21 ascii_field busy
10:21 * ascii_field pulls on oar
10:21 funkenstein_ !up thestringpuller
10:22 mircea_popescu merrily merrily merrily
10:22 thestringpuller ascii_field: Been looking for your "rules" on trustworthy computing on your blog...
10:22 mircea_popescu lyf is but a dreaaammmm
10:22 thestringpuller nvm found it
10:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46337 @ 0.00069881 = 32.3808 BTC [-] {3}
10:25 thestringpuller mircea_popescu is in a good mood this morning
10:26 mircea_popescu them's be fightin' words
10:26 funkenstein_ deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/10NN603.txt
10:26 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1VoHN94 )
10:26 deedbot- accepted: 1
10:27 mircea_popescu o hey look at that.
10:27 mircea_popescu waht are those worth even ?
10:28 mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.0000249 * 333333
10:28 gribble 8.2999917
10:28 mircea_popescu o.O
10:29 mircea_popescu how can i be this fuckign rich ?
10:29 funkenstein_ lol
10:29 funkenstein_ probably missing a zero somewhere
10:30 thestringpuller ;;isup qntra.net
10:30 gribble qntra.net is up
10:30 thestringpuller can anyone in US hit qntra?
10:30 funkenstein_ not loading here
10:31 mircea_popescu oh wait wrong one.
10:31 mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.00000595 * 333333
10:31 gribble 1.98333135
10:31 mircea_popescu still.
10:32 mircea_popescu yeah i guess qntra ddoser got his monthly allowance or w/e that is.
10:33 thestringpuller i can hit it from VPN tho
10:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.000699 = 17.5799 BTC [+]
10:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.000699 = 14.0849 BTC [+]
10:50 punkman http://www.codex99.com/illustration/56.html
10:50 assbot The Ultimate Alphabet ... ( http://bit.ly/1L294wD )
11:04 mircea_popescu http://www.nationalhumanservices.org/what-is-human-services <<< if only this were as fake as it looks.
11:04 assbot What is Human Services? ... ( http://bit.ly/1QJBTy7 )
11:04 mircea_popescu if you're curious as to where the endless scams draw their vigour from... you need look no further than government.
11:04 mircea_popescu of course.
11:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.000699 = 14.8887 BTC [+]
11:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59307 @ 0.00069821 = 41.4087 BTC [-] {4}
11:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00069774 = 12.35 BTC [-]
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11:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3838 @ 0.00069774 = 2.6779 BTC [-]
12:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11826 @ 0.00069764 = 8.2503 BTC [-]
12:01 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:01 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-09-2015#1286918 << must point out that this is easily fixed with drill, often - with bare hands; and that i have yet to meet anyone who actually ~uses~ shower head which came with his house or flat - they go in the rubbish, to be replaced by proper one with hose
12:01 assbot Logged on 28-09-2015 08:50:25; mircea_popescu: (and random discussion YET AGAIN undercovers the well lied about ustardian poverty. hey random schmuck, did you know your DAD could afford 5x the water that may be wasted on your stupid head ? forged granpa.)
12:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45450 @ 0.00069759 = 31.7055 BTC [-]
12:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55350 @ 0.00069893 = 38.6858 BTC [+] {2}
12:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44900 @ 0.00069661 = 31.2778 BTC [-] {5}
12:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57900 @ 0.00069634 = 40.3181 BTC [-]
12:20 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> problem is the stockpile keeps getting drunk. << I believe the concept is "inventory buffer"
12:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28500 @ 0.000699 = 19.9215 BTC [+]
12:27 ascii_field http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/09/american-allies-in-syria-their-shameful.html << from the l0lpharms
12:27 assbot ClubOrlov: American “allies” in Syria: their shameful performance is perfectly explainable ... ( http://bit.ly/1FAIWbY )
12:28 ascii_field 'Generally speaking, any authentic-looking towelhead who is able to intelligibly pronounce the word "democracy" has a chance to receive financing and weapons. But nobody has any control over where he will then go with these weapons. By the way, Soviet intelligence services of the Brezhnev era had the same problem, latching onto any tribal chieftain who knew how to pronounce words like "Marx" and "Lenin."'
12:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52200 @ 0.00069634 = 36.3489 BTC [-]
12:38 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:38 ascii_field 'The Pentagon didn't notice the moment when blowing up defenseless, demoralized adversaries using cruise missiles stopped being the only method for waging war. And now it is very difficult to appraise the real capabilities of the huge bulk of the US Army or Marine Corps, should they ever encounter an enemy that is approximately equal to them in technical capabilities.'
12:51 ascii_field http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/28/confederate-flag-on-ga-kids-backpack-leads-to-scho
12:51 assbot Confederate flag on Ga. kid's backpack leads to school lockdown - Washington Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1RdXdN9 )
13:00 BingoBoingo ascii_field: Lol, counseling upon the student's return
13:00 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42650 @ 0.000699 = 29.8124 BTC [+]
13:05 mircea_popescu ascii_field sure but also not really teh point is i.
13:05 mircea_popescu it*
13:05 mircea_popescu soviets also stole from "the property of the whole people"
13:05 ascii_field re: which
13:05 ascii_field ?
13:05 mircea_popescu drill fix
13:05 ascii_field aha
13:05 ascii_field direct analogue is the 'cheater'
13:05 ascii_field a device which screwed in place of a light bulb, circa 1920s
13:06 mircea_popescu aha
13:06 ascii_field creating an illicit mains socket.
13:06 ascii_field to ~this day~ we call it a жулик (fraudster)
13:07 ascii_field more commonly, a splitter of one mains socket into 3+
13:07 ascii_field is 'cheater' - even in english-speaking lands. from this i surmise that they, too, once had 'headcount' fees on mains socket
13:09 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:09 ascii_field mircea_popescu: http://pro-radio.ru/technology/9509-26 << modern incarnation.
13:09 assbot Маленькие полезняшки ... ( http://bit.ly/1RdZN5F )
13:10 ascii_field http://img1.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/2/73/798/73798563_4205816_Foto004.jpg << handmade.
13:10 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RdZPKQ )
13:10 mircea_popescu iirc you could get hard time for that.
13:10 ascii_field quite certain.
13:11 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> iirc you could get hard time for that. << Only if you are a licensed contractor.
13:11 mircea_popescu nah i mean in the original country.
13:11 ascii_field mircea_popescu: 'Не знаю в точности, как городские постройки подключались к электростанции, но по сохранившемуся случайно «Абонементу на право пользования электрической энергией», можно увидеть, что наш дом был подключён к электросетям с 2
13:11 ascii_field 0 января 1950 года, разрешение было выдано только на электролампочки, сначала на одну в 50 вт, а постепенно мощность увеличивалась...' >> http://www.novozybkov.ru/beads/article/106 << history of this
13:11 assbot Городские электростанции Новозыбкова и детство на Тёплом ручье ... ( http://bit.ly/1Re01cT )
13:13 ascii_field 'i do not know for sure how the city buildings connected to the power plant, but the accidentally preserved 'testament to the right to utilize the mains grid energy', you can see that our home was connected to the mains on 20 january 1950, and the permit was written ~only~ for light bulbs, starting with 50 watt, then progressing to 145...
13:13 ascii_field '
13:14 ascii_field '... no other electrical appliances were permitted, and inspectors made their rounds to see; but people went to great lengths to deceive...'
13:14 mircea_popescu 'The Pentagon didn't notice the moment when blowing up defenseless, demoralized adversaries using cruise missiles stopped being the only method for waging war.' << this was never the fucking case wtf narrative bs is this.
13:14 ascii_field it was the pentagon way
13:15 mircea_popescu and the reaso nit is "very difficulty" to appraise the "capabilites" of us army/navy/etc is because they are nil. anmd the reason they are nil is exactly the same reason the intellectual abilities of college grads are nil.
13:15 mircea_popescu ascii_field it never was.
13:15 mircea_popescu the day they decided to fret over "transgenderism" instead of beating kids for sport is the day performance went away
13:15 ascii_field except it was iron bombs for most of 20th
13:15 ascii_field c
13:15 mircea_popescu no it wasn't. dude, srsly... they had a fucking draft for vietnam.
13:15 ascii_field mircea_popescu: it went away in vietnam and there were only men fighting
13:15 mircea_popescu at no point was the pentagon idea that war is won by anything other than fucking guts.
13:16 ascii_field vietnam is where they 'we shall win by dropping 4 million tonnes of trotyl'
13:16 ascii_field 'hey it worked in ww2'
13:16 mircea_popescu no it wasn't, and no it didn't nor was it even treied or contempalted in ww2.
13:16 mircea_popescu wtf rewriting of military history is this!
13:17 ascii_field tet offensive ?
13:17 mircea_popescu yeah, and day z.
13:17 ascii_field operation linebacker ?
13:18 ascii_field ianag.
13:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37730 @ 0.00069866 = 26.3604 BTC [-] {2}
13:18 ascii_field (... not a general)
13:18 mircea_popescu tet was an... infantry operation.
13:18 mircea_popescu what sort of example is this ?
13:19 ascii_field iirc americans tried to massage with aerial bombardment prior
13:19 ascii_field expensively, copiously, but uselessly
13:19 mircea_popescu it was a communist offensive.
13:20 ascii_field and mircea_popescu is right, i was thinking in reality of the Christmas Offensive
13:20 mircea_popescu the us army and south vietnamese were at first inept but then regrouped and turned it into a disaster for the northeners
13:20 ascii_field not the tet
13:20 mircea_popescu this is that!
13:20 mircea_popescu tet = xmas in vietnamese
13:20 mircea_popescu or was it new year
13:20 ascii_field new year
13:20 ascii_field hence my brainfart.
13:20 mircea_popescu ah ok right.
13:20 ascii_field america called it 'operation linebacker 2.'
13:21 mircea_popescu anyway, attempts to win wars by artillery have been ongoing ever since someone observed cca 1600 that cannon is the major batterfield KILLER.
13:21 mircea_popescu this is not unlike observing that the penis is the major bedroom inseminator.
13:21 mircea_popescu sure it is, doesn't mean perambulating cocks will score that many dates.
13:28 phf http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/os-x-10-11-el-capitan-the-ars-technica-review/8/ << oh boy mac os x new "System Integrity Protection"
13:28 assbot OS X 10.11 El Capitan: The Ars Technica Review | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZhniH )
13:28 phf "The end result is that in El Cap, root is no longer an account with effectively unlimited access to either the file system or to memory and running processes. SIP places kernel-level checks on root’s privilege that can only be bypassed by the kernel itself."
13:28 mircea_popescu is that good for applecoin ?
13:28 phf "SIP consists of four major features:
13:28 phf Protected locations cannot be written to by root.
13:28 phf Protected system processes cannot be attached to with a debugger and cannot be subject to code injection.
13:28 phf All kernel extensions must now be signed (and old methods for disabling kernel extension signing are gone).
13:28 phf SIP cannot be disabled from within the operating system, only from the OS X Recovery partition."
13:29 ascii_field l0l!!!
13:29 ascii_field this is straight from microshit !
13:29 phf "The inclusion of OS X default applications in the list [some list of SIP locations --phf] means that they inherit the same file system protections as any other SIP location—if you want to delete Mail.app because you only use your third-party mail application, you’re out of luck."
13:29 ascii_field https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/dn613955(v=vs.85).aspx << as in.
13:29 assbot Kernel patch protection: frequently asked questions - Windows 10 hardware dev ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZhx9F )
13:29 mircea_popescu ahahah what is this bs
13:30 phf "Attempting to inject libraries into system binaries will result in an error. Even trying to poke into a protected process with DTRACE will fail—probes that try to target protected processes will fail to match, and no interaction with the kernel will be visible, and protected memory space will be simply inaccessible. Not even LLDB will be useful. You won’t be able to invoke it on system processes, regardless of root privilege."
13:30 ascii_field mircea_popescu: microshit had this for years. kernel is filled with boobytraps that cross-checksum each other, like any good malware
13:30 ascii_field all drivers must be rsa-signed;
13:31 ascii_field any attempt to patch kernel that is detected (and the traps move around) hangs the box
13:31 ascii_field oh and they like to shuffle'em on updates
13:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00069634 = 4.6655 BTC [-]
13:31 BingoBoingo <phf> All kernel extensions must now be signed (and old methods for disabling kernel extension signing are gone). << lol, http://qntra.net/2015/08/os-x-flaw-in-the-wild-abuses-error-logging-function-to-edit-sudoers/
13:31 assbot OS X Flaw in the Wild Abuses Error Logging Function to Edit sudoers | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1SET9Kh )
13:31 mircea_popescu derp.
13:31 mircea_popescu so why would anyone "upgrade" ?
13:31 ascii_field forced.
13:32 ascii_field also betcha this will drive sales of hardware debuggerz through the roof.
13:33 mircea_popescu what do you mean "forced"
13:33 phf this is dr. strangelove level of problem solving right there
13:33 ascii_field as in 'no upgrade, proggies bought in the store won't run, latest Pnohe won't sync, etc'
13:34 ascii_field and/or networked boxes 'upgrade' themselves at night.
13:34 mircea_popescu i dunno about any of that
13:35 mircea_popescu but then again i never really owned a mac so whatevs.
13:35 ascii_field mircea_popescu: these things are sop
13:35 ascii_field esp. post-steve-j
13:35 mircea_popescu i thought the trend was towards rooted iphones not the other way around
13:36 ascii_field mircea_popescu: these are a very funny joke on their own. WITHOUT EXCEPTION all 'rooters' are closed-source gigantic blobs that do fuck-knows-what to the pnohe
13:36 ascii_field this is justified by the author as 'we don't want crapple to fix it too quickly'
13:37 ascii_field and true enough, when it is finally reversed, they close the hole.
13:37 mircea_popescu what do you mean hole ?
13:37 mircea_popescu it's a fucking processor on a board with a disk and a ram stick innit ?
13:37 ascii_field the exploit which allowed the pnohe to be 'jailbroken'
13:38 ascii_field mircea_popescu: it has rsa sig checker in mask rom which runs on reset
13:38 ascii_field this makes it more like 'nintendo' than computer.
13:38 mircea_popescu so you drill it out i guess
13:38 ascii_field so 'jailbreak' requires some finesse
13:38 ascii_field go drill it out of the die !
13:38 mircea_popescu the cpu die ?
13:38 ascii_field why did you think apple makes own silicon !
13:38 mircea_popescu heh.
13:39 ascii_field it is quite analogous to a nintendo or playstation etc.
13:39 mircea_popescu so basically apple is the sony corp of america sorta thing mkay.
13:39 ascii_field long ago.
13:39 ascii_field steve j. even wrote this.
13:39 ascii_field (he was consciously and unabashedly enamored of sony)
13:41 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
13:42 ascii_field 'OS X users who depend upon unsigned KEXTs for extra functionality—be it third-party hardware with unsigned drivers or software like OSXFuse that depends upon unsigned kernel extensions—will have precisely two alternatives: stop using the applications or hardware until the developers provide signed KEXTs, or disable SIP altogether.' << hello winblows 7 !
13:42 ascii_field clearly this is what apple users pined for
13:42 ascii_field this mega-'feature' of microturd
13:43 ascii_field you don't need that mass-spectrometer! it didn't come with signed driver!
13:44 mircea_popescu i thought you couldn't disable sip altogether ?
13:44 ascii_field apparently you can, similar to microshit's 'test mode'
13:45 mircea_popescu i find it comedic that for all the "well documented" flaws of rsa, all these "take over the world" computing schemes fail to use ECC.
13:45 mircea_popescu somehow this is supposed to not be gallingly obvious or what ?
13:45 ascii_field https://www.theiphonewiki.com/wiki/Pwnage << correct. rsa.
13:45 assbot Pwnage - The iPhone Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1Re4uMH )
13:46 ascii_field the most pedestrian hypothesis here is that rsa is considerably easier to implement.
13:46 ascii_field (though still not easy !)
13:46 mircea_popescu "WoW !!! Mircea Popescu is back. Not only on Trilema, but also on Twitter"
13:46 mircea_popescu wut the fuck are the derps on about ?
13:47 ascii_field mircea_popescu: in their imaginary universe, you took the money and ran in 2011, then came back N more times to somehow also take the money and run each.'
13:47 phf around 2g/3g you still had "linux on iphone" projects and such. i think there was one project to recreate part of iphone stuck by combining opensource apple code and writing what's missing. this is of course long history.
13:48 mircea_popescu right, it was the buterins of the world that are permanent.
13:48 mircea_popescu phf you mean stack ?
13:48 ascii_field 'the car bomb exploded. the mechanic cursed and pulled on another wire. the car bomb exploded again, with greater violence. windows rattled, dogs barked. 'you definitely have a car bomb, sir, i can tell you that now!' he muttered.'
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13:48 phf yes, but this is somehow a freudian slip
13:49 mircea_popescu lol
13:51 punkman http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a52_1441716598
13:51 assbot LiveLeak.com - Peru: Grenade blows policeman’s hands off in Lima school attack *GRAPHIC* ... ( http://bit.ly/1Re5ccM )
13:52 mircea_popescu wwwwwait...
13:52 mircea_popescu who was attacking what ?
13:52 mircea_popescu "grenade blows standoff"
13:57 phf there was a period when apple was not this outright hostile to hackers. around 10.4-10.5 you could still rebuild darwin (i did it for a bit to work around the retarded execl argument list length limitations) or bsd user space from apple hosted source. even cocoa userspace had all kinds of hooks that you could use to customize the os, like inputmanager bundles
13:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40361 @ 0.00069634 = 28.105 BTC [-]
13:58 ascii_field phf: iirc they closed the kernel source a while ago.
13:58 mircea_popescu in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/6faf034ca9ce9ec0deda67bc8840f5d4/tumblr_nu5t8abUsh1uvvy5ro1_500.gif
13:58 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZleMx )
14:00 phf ascii_field: around the same time that they started focusing on iphone. in fact it looked like they were pulling the libraries one by one as custom iphone optimization were making their way in
14:01 mircea_popescu is this more or less just as jobs was going out ?
14:01 ascii_field iirc it began when he first took ill
14:01 mircea_popescu aha
14:01 ascii_field and rolled out shortly when corpse was cold.
14:02 mircea_popescu it's kinda funny how things are set up. the faitful always mistake the butresses of their chosen as mere weakness of the flesh that they, true templars, will find the courage and rectitude to straighten out
14:02 mircea_popescu then the whole echafaudage collapses ion a cloud of wtf and wchp
14:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52750 @ 0.00069576 = 36.7013 BTC [-] {5}
14:06 funkenstein_ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/28/mobile_malvertiser_ddos_javascript_drip_serves_site_with_45_billion_hits/ <-- more cannons
14:06 assbot Mobile advertising DDoS JavaScript drip serves site with 4.5bn hits • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1iZmT4P )
14:08 funkenstein_ copypaste can confirm the story?
14:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.000699 = 5.1377 BTC [+]
14:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350000 @ 0.00069516 = 243.306 BTC [-] {8}
14:17 ben_vulpes ;;isup wiki.bitcoin-assets.com
14:17 gribble wiki.bitcoin-assets.com is up
14:17 ben_vulpes nonsense i say
14:17 ben_vulpes ;;later tell kakobrekla "coracle": 54.187.227.228
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14:17 gribble The operation succeeded.
14:17 ben_vulpes s'il vous plait
14:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51970 @ 0.00069329 = 36.0303 BTC [-] {4}
14:20 kakobrekla added
14:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48550 @ 0.0006915 = 33.5723 BTC [-]
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15:02 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu davout jurov: Look, now people are copying another MPEx tool, behold fake X.EUR https://archive.is/bTvNG
15:02 assbot New Bitcoin Product Launch on Nasdaq by XBT Provider - Press Release ... ( http://bit.ly/1YMM5vx )
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15:19 jurov BingoBoingo: nasdaq accepts eur deposits?
15:19 jurov errrrr
15:20 jurov nasdaq accepts btc deposits?
15:20 BingoBoingo Some Nasdaq venture apparently is creating BTC certificates denominated in EUR, all on paper
15:21 BingoBoingo Not all of Nasdaq, just some venture listed there
15:22 jurov this is not at all comparable to x.eur
15:23 jurov it's for people who want to invest in btc without actually buying any
15:24 jurov x.eur is for people who start with btc
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15:24 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:24 ascii_field jurov: but somebody gotta serve the folks who want to work with amero^H^H^H^Husg^H^H^Husc
15:25 ascii_field (see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2013#379804 )
15:25 assbot Logged on 14-11-2013 17:33:07; asciilifeform: replace 'bitdollar' with 'amero', for extra conspiratorial spice.
15:25 BingoBoingo jurov: Comparable in the sense sausage and turd may be compared as cylinders
15:28 * jurov waits till alf encounters the khazar mafia link
15:28 ascii_field eh, old hat
15:28 jurov inb4 "snore"
15:28 jurov doh, beat me
15:28 ascii_field жидомасоны (tm) (r)
15:29 ascii_field (approx. 'yid-masons.' the equivalent of 'illuminati' in ru blog varietyspeak)
15:30 jurov here жидобольшевик is more often used in such context
15:30 ascii_field l0l!!
15:31 ascii_field btw the masons - at least the ones that can be met with in usa - are perhaps the ultimate cargo cult.
15:32 ascii_field tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s
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15:32 trinque I have a grandfather's freemason pin on a jacket; he was about that age when he passed away
15:32 BingoBoingo <ascii_field> tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s << They still recruit.
15:33 jurov cargocult? what did they imitate?
15:33 ascii_field jurov: the masons.
15:33 ascii_field what else.
15:33 ascii_field just like usa imitates... usa
15:33 ascii_field the one in the ru vhs tapes
15:33 ascii_field and yes they recruit
15:33 ascii_field i knew a fella who signed up. he brewed beer.
15:34 ascii_field was very popular.
15:34 phf жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice
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15:34 * phf throws hat and the ground and dances mazurka
15:34 trinque I recall my grandfather saying they weren't much more than a social club at the time I was asking
15:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00069069 = 26.6261 BTC [-]
15:37 jurov cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak
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15:39 jurov certainly very attractive to introverts
15:39 ascii_field if you ask'em they might even say they invented wheel, fire, structured programming, etc
15:40 jurov lolk
15:40 trinque "we dooooo"
15:40 trinque https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OExykL5QnXY
15:40 assbot The Simpsons - We Do - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEIg8g )
15:41 ascii_field obligatory montrezor: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-08-2015#1248984
15:41 assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 21:34:31; phf: "You? Impossible! A mason?" "A mason," I replied. "A sign," he said, "a sign." "It is this," I answered, producing from beneath the folds of my roquelaire a trowel.
15:43 phf ^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"
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15:45 ascii_field and 'riding the goat' is what, not absurd ?
15:45 ascii_field ritual ~has~ to be absurd.
15:46 ascii_field http://phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/goat_riding_tricycle.htm << see also.
15:46 assbot Goat Riding tricycle ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEIEUc )
15:46 phf ahaha, i've not seen this
15:47 ascii_field 'We leave the big piano shut and do not strike a note; / the doctor's been here seven times since father rode the goat.'
15:47 ascii_field '...He mutters passwords 'neath his breath, And other things he'll quote ---- / They surely had an evening's work when father rode the goat.'
15:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66700 @ 0.00069062 = 46.0644 BTC [-] {3}
15:55 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
15:56 ascii_field https://theintercept.com/2015/09/28/death-athens-rogue-nsa-operation << from the ministry of nailgun
15:56 assbot Did a Rogue NSA Operation Cause the Death of a Greek Telecom Employee? ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEJtfF )
15:56 ascii_field '...he went inside his brother’s apartment and saw Costas hanging from a rope tied to pipes above the lintel of his bathroom door, an old wooden chair nearby. He and his mother cut the rope and laid Costas down on the bed. The day before his death, Costas’ boss at Vodafone had ordered that a newly discovered code — a powerful and sophisticated bug — be deactivated and removed from its systems. The wiretap,
15:56 ascii_field placed by persons unknown, targeted more than 100 top officials, including then Prime Minister...'
15:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103867 @ 0.00068891 = 71.555 BTC [-] {6}
15:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.00068822 = 27.3223 BTC [-] {2}
16:00 ascii_field for some reason, knockout drug + rope appears to be the favourite usg method for dispatching troublesome folks
16:02 ascii_field not hard to see the up-sides. by the time corpse turns up, it is in a condition where - even if someone were inclined to investigate (and who wants to be next corpse?) nothing could be said.
16:03 phf !up thestringpuller
16:04 thestringpuller ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?
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16:04 ascii_field thestringpuller: i'd say it cannot.
16:05 ascii_field thestringpuller: do you know the political term 'unprincipled exception' ?
16:05 ascii_field ~interrupts~ were an unprincipled exception when introduced to von n. arch.
16:05 ascii_field as were multi-processors.
16:06 ascii_field ditto dma.
16:06 ascii_field !s dma
16:06 assbot 27 results for 'dma' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=dma
16:06 thestringpuller Yea I also figure you aren't a fan of DMA
16:06 ascii_field the way these items are implemented is ~inherently~ retarded
16:06 ascii_field inescapably.
16:07 thestringpuller I figured so when using them in academia.
16:07 thestringpuller even on the gameboy the dma controllers are annoying as fuck
16:07 ascii_field you will notice that when folks are persevering with something retarded, you get 'epicycles'
16:07 ascii_field e.g., what happens when an interrupt happens during an interrupt, on your box? look it up, you may be surprised
16:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39250 @ 0.00068535 = 26.9 BTC [-] {2}
16:09 thestringpuller on the gameboy if you interrupt during and interrupt you get undefined behavior
16:09 thestringpuller the NDS makes it worse cause the two processors running on the thing run at different clock speeds
16:09 ascii_field on modern x86 there are elaborate queueing/prioritization kludges.
16:09 thestringpuller Yea, not so much on an ARM die.
16:10 thestringpuller ARM-based*
16:10 thestringpuller the sad thing about interrupts on nintendo's handhelds is its used for all the useful shit...
16:11 ascii_field on ~all~ extant machines
16:12 ascii_field https://cryptome.org/cops.jpg << usg seek000rity detail for pope
16:12 ascii_field 'can't have police state without police !' (tm) (r) (al schwartz)
16:13 BingoBoingo ascii_field: USG was prolly worried about all those sedevacantist extremists
16:13 ascii_field BingoBoingo: nah
16:13 thestringpuller ascii_field: ugh this brings back terrible memories. So what's the deal with interrupts like airplane food?
16:14 ascii_field BingoBoingo: more of what was seen at boston. show of force.
16:14 ascii_field precisely like the presidential forbidden city motorcades
16:14 BingoBoingo Sure to scare Luke-Jr and the rest of the Sedevacantists
16:14 ascii_field where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN
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16:14 ascii_field and purely to rub it in.
16:15 trinque kenny loggins blaring from every black suburban
16:15 ascii_field it is ENTIRELY about 'we can do ANYTHING we like to you, and YOU can do NOTHING to us'
16:15 trinque check out tubby on the bicycle, lol
16:16 thestringpuller ascii_field: not nearly as bad as the LA Riots
16:16 ascii_field and since mircea_popescu appears to be sleeping, i will have to fill in for him and say 'this is what usians get for not being pashtuns!' aha.
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16:17 ascii_field thestringpuller: the l.a. riots - won
16:17 trinque usians love this kind of thing
16:17 thestringpuller kinda...a lot of niggas got fucked up.
16:17 thestringpuller Compton is still "the hood"
16:17 ascii_field they won.
16:17 ascii_field in the sense that the rioters were not rounded up and hanged in gibbets in public square
16:18 thestringpuller They being the police?
16:18 ascii_field but instead there was 'controversy'
16:18 thestringpuller ascii_field: you ever seen the movie "The Warriors"?
16:18 ascii_field nope.
16:19 thestringpuller ascii_field: http://www.whysanity.net/monos/warriors.html << pertinent line
16:20 ascii_field http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/09/29/us/29nsa-foia.html#document/p16/a245624 << lulzy
16:20 assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEL5Gp )
16:20 thestringpuller "You're standing right now with nine delegates from 100 gangs. And there's over a hundred more. That's 20,000 hardcore members. Forty-thousand, counting affiliates, and twenty-thousand more, not organized, but ready to fight: 60,000 soldiers! Now, there ain't but 20,000 police in the whole town." << I would think if gangs outnumber the police the last thing you want is an escalation of war. I.e. national guard/army
16:21 ascii_field criminals ~always~ outnumber police.
16:21 ascii_field how else.
16:21 ascii_field (technically everything that moves on two legs in usa is 'criminal')
16:22 thestringpuller well criminals willing to kill police officers (not a lot of people are willing to go that far)
16:22 thestringpuller The LA Riots saw the unification of the Bloods and Cryps for a short time in similar spirit described in the warriors
16:23 ascii_field thestringpuller: notice that ~exclusively~ local/municipal police are ever killed. as to why: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456
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16:23 assbot Logged on 02-09-2015 04:15:38; asciilifeform: the discreditation of local police apparatus, for its eventual demolition and replacement by unified fed gendarmerie, is going on schedule.
16:23 phf can you dig it?
16:24 thestringpuller !b 4
16:24 assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/350MQ0G.txt )
16:25 ascii_field notice how the latest wave of 'OMG!!11!!1!!policebrutality!11!!1livezmatter!!11' began with... several states proclaiming intent to arrest federal law enforcers in some cases
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16:25 ascii_field (in one state, those enforcing federal gun laws; in others - dope)
16:25 ascii_field this rapidly went to zero.
16:25 ascii_field and quietly 'unhappened' in media
16:25 ascii_field etc.
16:26 thestringpuller well local police are rarely proesecuted. the whole reason the LA riots occurred is cause d00ds got off on charges of Police Brutality
16:26 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:27 ascii_field thestringpuller: none of it is about prosecuting
16:27 ascii_field it is about 'pr' and image massage.
16:27 ascii_field about getting usians to see local cops as 'enemy' so that nice shiny new 'friends' can be trucked in
16:27 thestringpuller It's all fun and games until the niggers start rioting in the street.
16:27 ascii_field and given whatever powers.
16:27 thestringpuller ascii_field: also notice how it's never white people and honky's who riot.
16:28 BingoBoingo <ascii_field> (in one state, those enforcing federal gun laws; in others - dope) << The one state has Gubanatorial elections coming up, expect rhetoric to return
16:28 ascii_field thestringpuller: no shit
16:29 ascii_field btw the 'make'em hate the local cops' thing dates to ~AT LEAST~ brown v. board of e
16:30 ascii_field and before that - 'reconstruction'
16:30 thestringpuller during brown v board of education, the police and white people were indistinguishable
16:30 ascii_field as local police tend to be, when drawn from the population they work on
16:31 thestringpuller it was the feds iirc who protected the black children attending newly integrated schools
16:31 ascii_field aha and every media mouthpiece made sure to snap it from 1,001 angles
16:31 ascii_field 'love the feds, they are your friends'
16:32 thestringpuller that was much the case during the civil rights era.
16:32 thestringpuller kinda uncanny, "hate teh local police, love the national guard"
16:33 BingoBoingo lol http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-furloughs-workers-docks-vacation-2015-9?utm_source=qntra&utm_medium=referral&utm_term=rival
16:33 assbot Oracle furloughs workers, docks vacation - Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1LZZOWj )
16:33 ascii_field see also aesop's frog & scorpion.
16:33 thestringpuller I thought it was a snake and turtle
16:34 BingoBoingo Aesop had many X and Y animal fables
16:35 BingoBoingo !up thestringpuller
16:36 jurov kangaroo and panda
16:36 ascii_field 'Lots of tech companies do that, but in Oracle's case, it is mandating that all employees pay for this furlough with four days of their paid time off/vacation time, according to several sources we spoke to.' << l0l
16:37 ascii_field ' It's still hiring like crazy, with nearly 10,000 open jobs listed on its website, for instance, and it has ratcheted up research and development a bit, spending $8.7 billion in its last fiscal year — which ended in August — compared to $8.6 billion in fiscal 2014.' << does anyone else feel brain melting from the sheer density of flimflam packed into this paragraph ?
16:38 BingoBoingo Quite a bit
16:38 ascii_field (10,000 'openings advertised on www' has something to do with actual employment? and 8.6B spent on 'research' has something to do with r&d ? not on my planet...)
16:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23956 @ 0.00068502 = 16.4103 BTC [-] {5}
16:39 ascii_field oblig: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2014#742046
16:39 assbot Logged on 03-07-2014 17:34:41; asciilifeform: overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot.'
16:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00068303 = 27.3212 BTC [-]
16:49 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16945 @ 0.00068303 = 11.5739 BTC [-]
16:54 phf i added eatbulk to bitcoind that takes a folder with blk dat files and eats them in order, provisioning the node at the moment. pointless graphs time! http://glyf.org/tmp/height-time.png hours vs block height, http://glyf.org/tmp/height-delta.png block height vs delay from previous ACCEPTED
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16:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1M02iE2 )
16:54 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1M02l2W )
16:56 thestringpuller can't wait till bitcoind is fully deturdified
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17:06 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
17:06 BingoBoingo !up thestringpuller
17:10 ascii_field phf: i never saw a reason to put the iteration of blocks in the cpp. really it is a job for scripting lang from outside
17:10 ascii_field 'eatblock' does exactly one shot of eating a block.
17:10 ascii_field imho as it ought.
17:10 phf ascii_field: that's why it's not on the ml
17:11 ascii_field but, still spiffy
17:11 ascii_field phf: have you seen mine ?
17:11 ascii_field phf: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000107.html
17:11 assbot [BTC-dev] Results of First 'Deterministic Sync' Experiment, With Memory Consumption Plots. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LKmuPH )
17:11 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287947 << this is, virtually by definition, an impossibility.
17:11 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 20:56:57; thestringpuller: can't wait till bitcoind is fully deturdified
17:12 ascii_field (if it were rid of boost, openssl, bdb, and c++ entirely - it will not be 'bitcoind' in any familiar sense, but another thing entirely)
17:13 ascii_field and Mysterious Serious People (tm) will eschew it
17:13 ascii_field can't really blame'em either
17:14 ascii_field it is important to remember why we came up with the whole shebang of 'fits-in-head 1-page' patches, 'v', the lot
17:14 ascii_field it is more or less the only path from a known-genuine, pre-valuablebtc bitcoin client to something demonstrably degavinized
17:18 ascii_field (as i understand, anyone who so much as touched bitcoind since $10 or so is guilty until proven innocent of being a gavin)
17:18 ascii_field *source of
17:18 ascii_field at least from the pov of Mysterious Serious People
17:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36560 @ 0.00069123 = 25.2714 BTC [+]
17:38 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:39 ascii_field ;;later tell ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287769 << this box appears to be down.
17:39 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 18:17:40; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell kakobrekla "coracle": 54.187.227.228
17:39 gribble The operation succeeded.
17:40 kakobrekla not my fault!
17:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1587 @ 0.0006913 = 1.0971 BTC [+] {2}
17:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38613 @ 0.0006915 = 26.7009 BTC [+]
17:46 trinque nmap says there's a box there
17:46 trinque but no open port 8333
17:48 phf ascii_field: saw it of course. i wanted to cut out the whole blkcut -> block -> eatblock roundtrip, plus i want to see how fast it can eat at saturation. which is surprisingly not fast at all
18:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55700 @ 0.0006915 = 38.5166 BTC [+]
18:09 BingoBoingo Looks like BitBet has two new favored candiates for president: https://bitbet.us/bet/1205/marco-rubio-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/ https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/
18:09 assbot BitBet - Marco Rubio will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 0.54 B (63%) on Yes, 0.32 B (37%) on No | closing in 6 months 2 weeks | weight: 97`101 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwMN1 )
18:09 assbot BitBet - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 1.03 B (86%) on Yes, 0.17 B (14%) on No | closing in 6 months 3 weeks | weight: 98`768 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwPbF )
18:09 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
18:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.0006896 = 26.9289 BTC [-] {3}
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18:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128764 @ 0.0006915 = 89.0403 BTC [+]
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19:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00068947 = 12.6173 BTC [-]
19:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00068947 = 11.6176 BTC [-]
19:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42382 @ 0.00068582 = 29.0664 BTC [-] {3}
19:35 BingoBoingo !up itkin
19:42 BingoBoingo http://m.snopes.com/prescott-bush-planned-parenthood/
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19:42 assbot Bush Babies : snopes.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwhJwY )
19:46 BingoBoingo http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=262
19:46 assbot JL: Running From The Cops #1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwiqGP )
19:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11849 @ 0.0006835 = 8.0988 BTC [-]
19:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2044 @ 0.00068887 = 1.4081 BTC [+]
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20:13 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/29o8SOa.jpg
20:13 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwmqqI )
20:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15108 @ 0.0006915 = 10.4472 BTC [+]
20:27 jurov ..aaand http://www.itworld.com/article/2987438/newly-found-truecrypt-flaw-allows-full-system-compromise.html
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20:27 assbot Newly found TrueCrypt flaw allows full system compromise | ITworld ... ( http://bit.ly/1KQcONi )
20:28 jurov "The first phase of the TrueCrypt audit project, ... covered the driver code, but "Windows drivers are complex beasts"
20:28 jurov and it's easy to miss local elevation of privilege flaws, Forshaw said on Twitter."
20:39 jurov http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/
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20:39 assbot It’s sleazy, it’s totally illegal, and yet it could become the future of retirement - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwpVNU )
20:40 jurov anyone going in together? :D
20:40 jurov “This might be the iPhone of retirement products,” says Moshe Milevsky, an associate professor of finance at York University
20:41 jurov iProfesor
20:43 BingoBoingo jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.
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20:44 deedbot- [Qntra] Windows TrueCrypt Fatally Flawed - http://qntra.net/2015/09/windows-truecrypt-fatally-flawed/
20:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0006915 = 3.5958 BTC [+]
20:51 BingoBoingo jurov: I could see it. Tontines make some pretty good stories too.
20:57 BingoBoingo In related news, the botanical season of fall started today in the front yard. First leaves on the Sweet Gum tree changed colors in the past three hours.
21:05 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/9Nc2CZP.jpg
21:05 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QKbCzz )
21:13 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1287999 << run moar winblowz! (tm) (r)
21:13 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 00:27:08; jurov: ..aaand http://www.itworld.com/article/2987438/newly-found-truecrypt-flaw-allows-full-system-compromise.html
21:17 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: How's the weather over there?
21:23 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.0006915 = 14.5561 BTC [+]
21:32 asciilifeform http://www.coindesk.com/rogue-fbi-agent-searching-for-lost-bitcoin-silk-road-advisor-alleges << mega-brokentelephone-l0l
21:32 assbot Rogue FBI Agent Searching for Lost Bitcoin, Silk Road Advisor Alleges ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFcdF9 )
21:34 asciilifeform obligatory: ''How would they dare?' he said. 'I was such a pure and terrifying Aryan that they even put me in a special detachment. Its mission was to find out how the Jews always knew what the S.S. was going to do next There was a leak somewhere, and we were out to stop it' He looked bitter and affronted, remembering it, even though he had been that leak. 'Was the detachment successful in its mission?' I said. 'I'm happy to s
21:34 asciilifeform (k. vonnegut. 'mother night.')
21:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0006915 = 7.4682 BTC [+]
21:35 asciilifeform '...'I'm happy to say,' said Arpad, 'that fourteen S.S. men were shot on our recommendation. Adolf Eichmann himself congratulated us. 'You met him, did you?' I said. 'Yes' said Arpad, 'and I'm sorry I didn't know at the time how important he was.' 'Why?' I said. 'I would have killed him,' said Arpad.'
21:38 asciilifeform ;;bc,stats
21:38 gribble Current Blocks: {"blockcount":376772} | Current Difficulty: {"difficulty":59335351233.86657} | Next Difficulty At Block: None | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
21:40 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288008 << not only is it still a thing, but there is TO THIS DAY nothing like an actual replacement for it.
21:40 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 00:43:28; BingoBoingo: jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.
21:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.0006915 = 24.894 BTC [+]
21:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00068887 = 3.8232 BTC [-]
21:53 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well there's a popular and derpy for and than... just kinda forgot that niche existed
22:07 * BingoBoingo in a time before Bitcoin resorted to truecrypt as a "don't you dare spy on my Win Box Dorm neighbors" measure.
22:14 BingoBoingo Obese Privilege http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/overweight-people-seen-as-too-fat-to-commit-crimes-a2956586.html
22:14 assbot 'Overweight' people seen as 'too fat' to commit crimes, study finds | UK | News | London Evening Standard ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGZbUE )
22:15 trinque damn, that's one hell of an ass-overflow
22:16 BingoBoingo trinque: Reports are the UK has a still worse Obeast infestation than the US
22:23 mike_c bitbettors can't do math. if trump is 50/50, why is jeb 5:1 to win? https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/
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22:23 assbot BitBet - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 1.03 B (86%) on Yes, 0.17 B (14%) on No | closing in 6 months 3 weeks | weight: 98`683 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwPbF )
22:29 BingoBoingo mike_c: Don't forget Rubio
22:29 cazalla http://i.imgur.com/aHCf6T7.jpg thank you steve, thank you
22:29 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJZixL )
22:40 mike_c srsly, all the more reason to bet no, right?
22:40 BingoBoingo mike_c: Seriously on Both bets.
22:41 * BingoBoingo decided to for "yes" to Rubio rather than "no" on jeb with his stake though https://bitbet.us/stats/14BqjpHAeM2EC6aJkrzM7cbTeePQCJJs5C/
22:41 assbot BitBet Stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1KK06Tn )
22:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00068652 = 20.7672 BTC [-] {4}
22:57 trinque http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/30/us-un-assembly-idUSKCN0RT2MS20150930 << He added: "If it (Russia) is against the terrorists, it's not abnormal to launch strikes against them."
22:57 assbot Powers struggle to agree on Syria; Russia urged to strike Islamic State| Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1MZz6mr )
22:59 trinque Russia seems to be demonstrating *to the Middle East* that it is cooler head among the external powers.
23:00 trinque *the cooler head
23:08 trinque it will be a fascinating thing if the US attempt to align the Middle East with itself - via some naive "we'll make them all South Korea and Japan!" notion - results in alignment with Russia, and even more amusing if the thing actually results in some semblance of "peace in the Middle East" down the road
23:17 mike_c I think rubio is warming up for the next one.
23:19 BingoBoingo mike_c: He prolly is. Wants to resurrect the McCain/Romney train since Santorum had to be skipped.
23:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00068286 = 12.4963 BTC [-] {3}
23:32 BingoBoingo mike_c: The republican nominee field this year is awfully noisy. Rand is falling into his father's pattern, Lizards love Fiorina, and Trump is just a protest vote.
23:41 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i imagine those people will put more into advertising it than davout ever did, and so will take over.
23:41 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: For a portion of the market, but like many other things at some point they will probably die suddenly
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23:57 mircea_popescu but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_nq3hgfT7gY1s9e2ofo1_1290.jpg
23:57 assbot 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBt6sB )
23:57 mircea_popescu oops
23:57 mircea_popescu but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_nq3hgfT7gY1s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg
23:57 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBt8AG )
23:58 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287784 << right, for people who want to invest in eur without actually holding any >D
23:58 assbot Logged on 29-09-2015 19:24:01; jurov: x.eur is for people who start with btc
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