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00:12 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50550 @ 0.00042138 = 21.3008 BTC [+] {3}
00:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00041937 = 10.3584 BTC [-]
00:32 asciilifeform !up gabriel_laddel
00:34 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: what is wrong with stockpiling AMD opterons?
00:34 gabriel_laddel sure, it is only a temporary solution, but we've no other option
00:35 asciilifeform stockpile the (increasingly unobtainable) mobos first
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00:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00041527 = 19.7253 BTC [-] {2}
01:00 cazalla well, Black Mass http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1355683/ was a total disappointment
01:03 BingoBoingo Johnny Depp is already a parody of himself. Give it two years and he'll do the Nicholas Cage thing where he fights for parts in straight to home video flicks just to pay the bills.
01:07 BingoBoingo https://i.imgur.com/96K76xy.jpg
01:07 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1hncGNZ )
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01:23 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
01:24 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 240.88, vol: 24768.80455782 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 239.7, vol: 9857.40637 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 241.73, vol: 11952.90201183 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 250.0, vol: 1.28447416 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 245.432246, vol: 20504.38350000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 240.25001, vol: 86.56163666 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 242.378949989, vol: 47.69713933 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)
01:24 BingoBoingo ;;more
01:24 gribble average: 242.247140954
01:27 trinque ben_vulpes | worst case scenario, unless the standard is verifiability, #bitcoin-jesters could cause all sortsa problems trying to federate their wot into this one. << I have pondered making deedbot- eat rss feeds *of deeds*; sounds applicable here
01:28 trinque perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing
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01:28 trinque one for general deeds, one for buy/sell ads, one for rates?
01:28 trinque something to think about. in other news, my journey is complete
01:29 trinque you know, you could probably make a pretty cool DHT system where the indexes of interesting keys are the txns sent from particular addresses
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01:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 139417 @ 0.00041696 = 58.1313 BTC [+] {6}
01:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17683 @ 0.00042265 = 7.4737 BTC [+] {2}
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02:39 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6474 @ 0.00041548 = 2.6898 BTC [-]
02:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18032 @ 0.00042038 = 7.5803 BTC [+]
02:53 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8445 @ 0.00042038 = 3.5501 BTC [+]
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03:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00042415 = 13.3183 BTC [+] {3}
03:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64450 @ 0.00042634 = 27.4776 BTC [+] {2}
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03:52 BingoBoingo All gambling outside of BitBet is a scam http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/10/05/draftkings_and_fanduel_scrutinized_for_insider_info_after_employee_leak.html
03:52 assbot DraftKings and FanDuel scrutinized for insider info after employee leak, win. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FU9J2X )
03:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37150 @ 0.00042661 = 15.8486 BTC [+] {2}
03:59 punkman BingoBoingo: how do people bet on fantasy sports?
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03:59 BingoBoingo They each throw a bit of money into a pot, then winner/platform takes all
04:01 BingoBoingo https://www.slimgr.com/images/2015/10/05/bebcbdb04a083de92f29ac067225e21d.jpg
04:01 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrUHTB )
04:10 BingoBoingo It's apparently been a year https://imgur.com/a/6rk2e
04:10 assbot Bearwhale - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrUZtD )
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04:34 punkman http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/12/all-you-need-is-love/302351/
04:34 assbot All You Need Is Love - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1Z6iJZ9 )
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04:50 punkman http://www.wired.com/2015/10/no-comments-allowed-reddits-new-news-site-upvoted/
04:50 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LeaLD2 )
04:51 punkman http://motherboard.vice.com/read/im-on-twitter-too
04:51 assbot We're Replacing Comments with Something Better | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1LeaTT8 )
04:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32050 @ 0.0004244 = 13.602 BTC [-]
05:07 cazalla https://youtu.be/82UsZ44AxIA?t=4m50s
05:07 assbot Japanese Man Accidentally Burns Down His House While Live Streaming | Japanese Streamer Home Fire - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Leds7D )
05:09 cazalla !up gabriel_laddel
05:09 gabriel_laddel ty
05:09 gabriel_laddel http://www.tanyakhovanova.com/Jokes/jokes.html
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05:09 assbot Math Humor ... ( http://bit.ly/1LedQ5V )
05:09 gabriel_laddel some choice lines
05:10 gabriel_laddel "Entropy isn't what it used to be."
05:10 gabriel_laddel "What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?"
05:10 gabriel_laddel "Grigori Perelman's theorem: There is no offer you can't refuse."
05:10 gabriel_laddel most are meh, but w/e
05:12 gabriel_laddel * * * Windows error messages in haiku
05:13 gabriel_laddel A file that big?
05:13 gabriel_laddel It might be very useful.
05:13 gabriel_laddel But now it is gone.
05:13 gabriel_laddel ABORTED effort:
05:13 gabriel_laddel Close all that you have worked on.
05:13 gabriel_laddel You ask way too much.
05:15 gabriel_laddel "No Comments Allowed on Reddit’s New News Site ‘Upvoted’"
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05:16 gabriel_laddel Wow, brilliant guys. Really, truly, innovative. Von N., Turing, Engelbart, McCarthy etc would be proud.
05:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00042439 = 9.761 BTC [-] {2}
05:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00042664 = 12.1166 BTC [+]
05:31 gabriel_laddel If a man tries to fail and succeeds, which did he do?
05:31 gabriel_laddel A PHD in string theory!
05:31 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292505 << yeah he did, http://trilema.com/2011/arta-pedepsirii/ and conversationally many places such as recently http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-09-2015#1288346
05:31 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 01:12:45; asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu wrote something re: how he wants wot as a very fluid and informal animal that can't be 'optimized against'
05:31 assbot Arta pedepsirii on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Leh4qa )
05:31 assbot Logged on 30-09-2015 09:29:18; mircea_popescu: i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training.
05:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292510 <<< bwahahaha and moscow times is the real thing ?
05:33 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 01:26:11; assbot: RT Is a Mock-Up of the Real Thing | Opinion | The Moscow Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1hmPEqg )
05:33 mircea_popescu such lulz.
05:33 mircea_popescu but yes, the russian did it poorly. should have been America Today.
05:36 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292538 << pfff!
05:36 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 03:02:26; asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu's sometimes-powerful medicine of putting on a blindfold and pretending that nothing happens outside of his wot - will not work here.
05:37 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292563 << no it doesn't, simmer down.
05:37 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 05:28:10; trinque: perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing
05:37 mircea_popescu not everything that isn't specced but could be specced should be. that's how idiocy gets in.
05:38 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292577 << they don't. they fantasize that they did.
05:38 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 07:59:14; punkman: BingoBoingo: how do people bet on fantasy sports?
05:39 * mircea_popescu has skipped atantic, wired, vice links. will continue to do so.
05:40 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292529 << no i don't ?
05:40 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 02:49:33; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu you've got mailz!
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06:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77500 @ 0.00042667 = 33.0669 BTC [+] {4}
06:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96772 @ 0.00042695 = 41.3168 BTC [+] {2}
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07:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52150 @ 0.00042886 = 22.365 BTC [+]
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07:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00042949 = 9.7065 BTC [+] {2}
07:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93450 @ 0.00043183 = 40.3545 BTC [+] {3}
08:05 mircea_popescu so upon examination it turns out that polimedia mx dns record has been poisoned somehow, or what the fuck.
08:05 mircea_popescu anyone else see Preferred: 10p.nsm.ctmail.com38.113.116.194 216.163.188.57 216.163.176.42220 c9bh03.amadis.com ESMTP Postfix
08:05 mircea_popescu ?
08:06 kakobrekla ;; ANSWER SECTION:
08:06 kakobrekla polimedia.us. 3599 IN MX 10 p.nsm.ctmail.com.
08:06 gribble Error: "ANSWER" is not a valid command.
08:08 mircea_popescu da fuck.
08:10 mircea_popescu local zone is correct.
08:11 mircea_popescu ;; ANSWER SECTION:
08:11 gribble Error: "ANSWER" is not a valid command.
08:11 mircea_popescu polimedia.us.1800INA64.74.223.37
08:11 mircea_popescu ahaha what the everloving fuck.
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08:28 punkman I get p.nsm.ctmail.com too
08:29 mircea_popescu how the fuck does this even work ? http://dpaste.com/1PBK2J4
08:29 assbot dpaste: 1PBK2J4 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUx6t2 )
08:33 punkman bunch of other people had their MX directed to p.nsm.ctmail.com if you google it
08:33 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/09J1H1A << hijack through and through.
08:33 assbot dpaste: 09J1H1A ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUxqIm )
08:34 mircea_popescu "Hello, ctmail.com is a domain used by Internet security software and devices. For more information please contact info@support.ctmail.com."
08:34 mircea_popescu ahem.
08:35 mircea_popescu ‎
08:35 mircea_popescu For security reason, we cannot have an internal link available to the Public. Please bookmark this link https://ctmail.ct.gov so you can access the site directly.
08:35 assbot Outlook Web App ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUxyaM )
08:35 mircea_popescu www.ct.gov/best/cwp/view.asp?a=2297&q=520956‎
08:37 mircea_popescu ct.gov, seriously ? obscure "antivirus" corp with no product ?
08:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59900 @ 0.00043225 = 25.8918 BTC [+]
08:41 punkman http://forums.hostgator.com/livechat-support-disgrace-pls-assist-t137495.html?s=6cb4f57e7b796879cba64a4d497108d8&amp;
08:41 punkman http://mxlist.net/p.nsm.ctmail.com/
08:41 assbot mxlist of p.nsm.ctmail.com page 1/16219 ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUydZK )
08:41 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291025 <<< because second edition
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08:41 assbot Logged on 03-10-2015 19:25:58; AgentScully: I'm kind of sad no one liked my applied crypto pic
08:43 mircea_popescu punkman 16k pages worht of hijacked domains ?!
08:44 punkman right, and nobody has written a blog post about this so far, has been happening for years
08:44 mircea_popescu ...
08:45 mircea_popescu there's something too weird for life here.
08:45 mircea_popescu o da fuck. Expires On October 01, 2015
08:46 punkman polimedia?
08:46 mircea_popescu myeah.
08:46 mircea_popescu "After reviewing your chat transcripts, it appears in the first chat that the Junior Administrator stated specifically what the issue was, which is that the domain is expired as of 8/7/2011. There was also clarification provided that you'd need to contact the registrar directly for the renewal and to update the DNS back to our name-servers."
08:46 mircea_popescu in your link.
08:47 mircea_popescu no fucking wonder's been going on for yearsnobody wrote about it. they'd have to write "umm....lolz"
08:49 punkman so namecheap changed mx record after it expired?
08:49 mircea_popescu myeah
08:50 punkman am disappoint, dns poisoning would've been cool
08:54 mircea_popescu yeah srsly.
08:54 asciilifeform ok wat is this.
08:54 punkman they should have thrown some kind of error though, instead of silently accepting all teh emails
08:55 asciilifeform oh noez zey stole me ciphertext!
08:55 mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's kinda what was wtfing me, what, i don't paste enough of inbound spam in here or wtf is their problem.
08:56 mircea_popescu punkman im sure they bounced.
08:56 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/01B20TA.txt << here it is again. and don't forget to check sig inside.
08:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUzJv8 )
08:56 mircea_popescu danke.
08:57 mircea_popescu anyway, this is a psa/reminder that in point of fact there is ZERO security wrt email. i, or you, or anyone bored one evening can hijack a mx record, read all teh inbound mail etc.
08:57 mircea_popescu if you imagine email has any sort of security you're nuts.
08:57 * asciilifeform used to work for an outfit that made millions simply in ensuring that this kind of snafu did not happen, for megacorp clients
08:58 asciilifeform this is also a psa/reminder that enemy may not read pgp message, but can substitute his own for yours! sign the material inside.
08:59 mircea_popescu in other unrelated news, namecheap wants 200 bucks to renew your expired domain
08:59 mircea_popescu they do however have a 27 day grace period on top of the 5 day grace period etc.
08:59 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is sop
08:59 punkman mircea_popescu: no wai, I just did one the other day for $15
08:59 asciilifeform most of these extortionists have a 'purgatory'
08:59 mircea_popescu yes cuz within the 27 days. they only charged me 8.5 or so
09:03 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292594 << these are mostly classics
09:03 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 09:09:51; gabriel_laddel: http://www.tanyakhovanova.com/Jokes/jokes.html
09:03 asciilifeform 'The population density of USA is 100 square people per mile.' << win.
09:03 * asciilifeform has a fat manually-typewritten stack of these 'militarizms' somewhere
09:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63300 @ 0.00043446 = 27.5013 BTC [+] {3}
09:08 mircea_popescu mk we should be back in business. asciilifeform mind remailing me just to see this goes through ?
09:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: resent
09:10 mircea_popescu anyway, the reason this went by unobserved for ~20 hours is that a) internal mail still worked, obviousyl, and b) enom decently adds its record with priority 10. there's a bugfeature apparently where some relayers/dns servers prefer higher priority records even if older.
09:11 mircea_popescu either that or they didn't actually change it until the 3rd.
09:11 asciilifeform it still blows my mind that we're relying on a thing that sits on top of dns.
09:14 mircea_popescu ~relying
09:14 mircea_popescu well so i got your email but apparently there;s still someting wrong because it's all garbled and what is this "-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----" stuff.
09:15 asciilifeform wut?!
09:15 asciilifeform diff w/paste ?
09:15 asciilifeform or both similarly garbled ?
09:15 mircea_popescu i'm just being silly!
09:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33200 @ 0.00043613 = 14.4795 BTC [+] {2}
09:24 * asciilifeform is l0ling over 'norsena corp.' in mircea_popescu's dns
09:29 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39902 @ 0.00044443 = 17.7336 BTC [+] {3}
09:32 mircea_popescu what, it's a corp.
09:33 asciilifeform as seen in 'asylum'
09:34 mircea_popescu darn.
09:34 mircea_popescu iirc the idea was that nobody'll ever notice.
09:35 asciilifeform l0lz
09:35 * asciilifeform noticed ages ago but promptly forgot
09:37 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292608 << this was, iirc, tried (abolition of comments on american fishwrap sites) a few yrs ago, but abandoned because it is too pyongyang
09:37 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 09:15:29; gabriel_laddel: "No Comments Allowed on Reddit’s New News Site ‘Upvoted’"
09:37 asciilifeform i.e. abandons the appearance of k0nsensoos
09:37 mircea_popescu they'll keep trying. what else is there to do ? compete with pete in pr ?
09:38 mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw, did i ever tell you i did all the typesetting of that thing myself ?
09:38 mircea_popescu sent files straight to the printer.
09:38 asciilifeform almost like there is some threshold that is crossed (i.e. ~all~ of the comments on an article re: recent oregon 'postal' being such that concern organized mass disarmament) and then they 'ban commentz now!?!!!'
09:38 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my understanding is that all self-published items are typeset personally ?
09:38 asciilifeform i mean, how else
09:39 asciilifeform but yes, a thinking man goes and latex
09:39 asciilifeform this is sop.
09:39 mircea_popescu a) the printer can't use latex ; b) self published generally means, PoD and a sharky editor that fleeces the hopeful. this was actually printed on web press, so in this sense everything else printed hence is a lot more "self published" than asylum.
09:40 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: printer tells you what he eats, then you make latex shit it.
09:40 mircea_popescu it may not be the last web pressed fiction offering in the us, but it won't be far ahead of the last i dun think
09:40 asciilifeform typically the machines are able to eat postscript.
09:40 mircea_popescu aha yep, ps.
09:40 asciilifeform no one eats straight latex, afaik
09:40 mircea_popescu but you know, machine shop ps. postscript-with-quirks.
09:41 asciilifeform well aha, they send you params
09:41 mircea_popescu actually in the early 2000s there was some effort on the part of mfgs to support latex
09:41 mircea_popescu it died with the death of the entire publishing industry (actual publishing, ie, putting ink to paper. not predend publishing, aka editing newspapers etc)
09:42 * asciilifeform has cases full of various items printed by fully-automated print houses with 'put ps here and money here' wwwtronic vending machine
09:42 asciilifeform this has been a thing for some years.
09:42 mircea_popescu all that's pod and if you inspect the covers you'll see the difference between layflat process and pod covers.
09:42 asciilifeform it is not hard to tell apart
09:43 asciilifeform laserprint toner shines
09:43 mircea_popescu back then it wasn't even fucking expensive, iirc it cost ~25 cents per
09:43 asciilifeform (and, after some years, comes off the page)
09:43 mike_c ;;later tell pete_dushenski I don't see a discrepancy. It updates nightly with the wot database dumps. So probably he changed the rating and btcalpha hadn't picked up the change yet.
09:43 gribble The operation succeeded.
09:43 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the economics of webprint are not unlike those of circuit board
09:43 asciilifeform yes, make 3000 and it is 25c each.
09:43 mircea_popescu quite identical.
09:43 mircea_popescu mike_c he didn't know you can rate in pm, most likely.
09:44 mircea_popescu i don't recall what the run was. maybe 8k ?
09:44 asciilifeform the sad part is that there is no real reason why pod couldn't offer a decent cover
09:44 asciilifeform for extra $$
09:45 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292666 << i have this edition. it pre-dates his public betrayal and is, afaik, uncensored (vs 1st)
09:45 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 12:41:59; davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1291025 <<< because second edition
09:46 asciilifeform schneier's book
09:46 asciilifeform afaik everyone who programs, has this.
09:47 mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, the "back then" comment is that i'd be much surprised you can find sanely priced layflat process anymore. because yes, mass production needs the mass.
09:47 asciilifeform 'Dear students! Remember that money can solve anything! Even complicated differential equations.'
09:49 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i recently popped a crate with 4th ed. stroustrup. it was, to my surprise, proper lay-flat. but the pleasant surprise turned to ick when i saw that it, for no particular reason, had blue as well as black print, and a good fraction of the blue is smudged !
09:49 asciilifeform in some places, even double-struck
09:49 asciilifeform to the point of unreadability
09:49 asciilifeform who does this?!
09:49 mircea_popescu what ?!
09:49 asciilifeform aha.
09:49 * mircea_popescu recalls "specialty ink" was more expensive than "double the run"
09:49 mircea_popescu yes i briefly considered printing it in green
09:49 asciilifeform at least it clearly wasn't laser-print!
09:50 asciilifeform (laser print does not behave this way)
09:50 mircea_popescu but perhaps it was handprinted.
09:50 asciilifeform devil knows
09:50 asciilifeform fiddybux doesn't buy handprint, afaik
09:51 asciilifeform the strongest hypothesis is that it was 'we don't giveafuck, you'll buy it'-manufactured.
09:51 mircea_popescu fiddybux buys ~half of reddit.
09:51 mircea_popescu clucked, if you prefer, rather than handprint
09:51 asciilifeform l0l
09:56 asciilifeform '—Some bike thief managed to open my combination lock. How could they possibly guess that the combo was the year of the canonization of Saint Dominic by Pope Gregory IX at Rieti, Italy? —What year was that? —1234.'
09:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4580 @ 0.00044575 = 2.0415 BTC [+] {3}
10:00 asciilifeform http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/software/navy-diversifies-ships-cyber-systems-to-foil-hackers << l0l! betcha they have win98 on one, 95 on others, NT on yet others...
10:00 assbot Navy Diversifies Ships' Cyber Systems to Foil Hackers - IEEE Spectrum ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4qk0N )
10:00 asciilifeform d1v3rs1ty!!!11
10:03 asciilifeform 'Swartz had grown moody and stopped showing up to work. At one point, after he wrote a blog post envisioning his own death, Ohanian called the police to break into his apartment. Swartz laughed it off. Meanwhile, publicly, he called himself one of Reddit’s cofounders, taking credit for an idea Huffman and Ohanian believed to be theirs alone. In January of 2007, he was fired. Six years later, he hanged himself while facing a
10:03 asciilifeform federal criminal trial on hacking and fraud charges.'
10:03 asciilifeform l0l, unpersoned already.
10:04 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55400 @ 0.0004544 = 25.1738 BTC [+]
10:07 mircea_popescu assbot> [upon reading about it on trilema,] Navy Diversifies Ships' Cyber Systems to Foil Hackers - IEEE Spectrum << FTFT.
10:11 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Apple will trade above $150 on or before New Year's Day 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1159/apple-will-trade-above-150-on-or-before/#b16
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10:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00053536 = 14.6421 BTC [+] {2}
10:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00052496 = 1.0499 BTC [-]
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10:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00051842 = 1.9959 BTC [-]
11:11 funkenstein_ http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cps/5184080755.html
11:11 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ojt1ll )
11:14 funkenstein_ whoops gone already sorry
11:14 fluffypony what was it, funkenstein_?
11:15 funkenstein_ https://web.archive.org/web/20151004213142/https://southjersey.craigslist.org/cps/5184080755.html
11:15 assbot $50 / to plug in a box! ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjtlAn )
11:15 funkenstein_ fluffypony, i was gonna ask you
11:24 funkenstein_ somebody wants moar noadz i guess
11:36 diametric ugh i hate when the channel notifies me my nick was mentioned but then it gets lost in scrollback.
11:41 punkman http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-October/026685.html
11:41 assbot [Cryptography] OpenPGP SEIP downgrade attack ... ( http://bit.ly/1OjvR9W )
11:48 jurov diametric, set your scrollback to 1000 lines :)
11:51 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22429 @ 0.00050338 = 11.2903 BTC [-] {3}
11:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 75850 @ 0.00049797 = 37.771 BTC [-] {2}
11:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57600 @ 0.00050422 = 29.0431 BTC [+] {5}
12:10 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
12:11 ascii_field 'The implications are, among others, that an encrypted and signed message can be stripped of its signature and modified arbitrarily, with certain restrictions, by an attacker without knowing the key.' << ahahahaha
12:11 ascii_field which is why i say IF NOT SIGNED, MESSAGE IS FROM HITLER
12:12 ascii_field 'GPG throws a warning [3] that the message could have been modified, but other implementations do not differentiate between SE and SEIP.' << what 'other implementations' ? microshit crypto ?
12:14 trinque diametric also for weechat there's himon.pl
12:14 trinque gives you a buffer of highlights
12:14 diametric supposedly my bouncer is suppose to capture my damn highlights but it never seems to work right.
12:17 ascii_field mircea_popescu et al: see also old thread, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-09-2015#1285200
12:17 assbot Logged on 25-09-2015 01:45:37; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285102 << presently they are quite unlike! hash type for general-purpose message signing is ~selectable~ from the handful of traditional algos; hash for signature ~of keys~ is hardwired to sha1 !
12:18 ascii_field and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-09-2015#1284794
12:18 assbot Logged on 24-09-2015 14:12:48; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284625 << aha. but ever notice that it's sha1, and can't be changed to anything else? and, likewise, self-sigs are hardcoded to use sha1? it is pestilentially pervasive in the rfc, and Must Die
~ 15 minutes ~
12:34 davout http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-10-2015#1290898 <<< roquefort > brie for omelettes
12:34 assbot Logged on 03-10-2015 16:11:55; mircea_popescu: psa : brie is THE omlette cheese.
12:40 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: ever seen "Forbidden Zone"?
12:41 ben_vulpes !up ascii_field
12:42 mircea_popescu i have not.
12:43 ben_vulpes ascii_field: if i'm responding to a message that was encrypted to my key, and demonstrate knowledge of the cleartext, does that not support unhitlerdom?
12:43 ascii_field ben_vulpes: nope
12:43 ascii_field ben_vulpes: think:
12:44 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zimsUDzOiSM << fun sample
12:44 assbot Forbidden Zone DANNY ELFMAN DEVIL--COLOR - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUXpiV )
12:44 mircea_popescu davout they don;'t have much roquefort here, unfortunately.
12:44 ascii_field 1) i encrypt a message to ben_vulpes's pubkey 2) i send to him 3) hitler picks it up from the wire and throws it away 4) hitler encrypts substitute message to ben_vulpes's pubkey 5) he sends
12:44 mircea_popescu ben_vulpes now has spurious message.
12:45 mircea_popescu this is valuable.
12:45 ascii_field valuable if he knows that it is spurious.
12:45 ascii_field otherwise lethal.
12:46 mircea_popescu we'd think ben_vulpes knows better.
12:48 ben_vulpes i'd dearly lurve to see hitler diddle freenode like that
12:48 mircea_popescu or in general. cheap spying, really.
12:48 mircea_popescu "here's what hitler WANTED you to think he said".
12:49 mircea_popescu and with that, i shall be off to buy wine. to sweeten the wait, i leave you with http://40.media.tumblr.com/5bd6f2d522cf52c46ae7a696e0b69054/tumblr_nj0ketRqJs1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg
12:49 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUXS4G )
12:49 ascii_field any halfway decent hitler plants ~deniable~ diddles.
12:49 ascii_field l0l chewing gum section !
12:56 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQi3TxGWwAQvyv3.jpg:large
12:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUYzuE )
13:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00050016 = 1.9756 BTC [-]
13:10 ascii_field in other nyooz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-worlds-silliest-empire.html
13:10 assbot ClubOrlov: The World's Silliest Empire ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUZKdF )
13:11 ascii_field 'The first bit of extreme silliness surfaced when Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, the head of the United States Central Command, told a Senate panel that only a very small number of Syrian fighters trained by the United States remained in the fight—perhaps as few as five. The tab for training and equipping them was $500 million. That's $100 million per fighter, but that's OK, because it's all good as long as the militar
13:11 ascii_field y contractors are getting paid. Things got even sillier when it later turned out that even these few fighters got car-jacked by ISIS/al Qaeda in Syria (whatever they are currently calling themselves) and got their vehicles and weapons taken away from them.'
13:13 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
13:13 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29604 @ 0.00050037 = 14.813 BTC [+] {3}
13:13 ascii_field 'Undeterred by diplomacy, the US squeezed off a couple of cruise missiles in the general direction of Syria, but the Russians promptly shot them out of the sky, triggering a major rethink at the Pentagon and, of course, making the US look rather silly.' << i missed this?
13:17 ascii_field 'Of course, being Americans, they have to prosecute this information war in the silliest way possible. First, you trot out your claims of civilian casualties before the Russians fly a single sortie. Oops! Then you stuff the social media with fake pictures of wounded children produced beforehand by performers in white helmets paid for by George Soros. And then, when asked for evidence, you refuse to provide any.' << l0lz
13:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00050016 = 1.5255 BTC [-]
13:30 * jurov 's admining the bash ... and would like to have "please resubmit this to wiki" button
13:32 jurov for stuff like this: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-09-2015#1277335
13:32 assbot Logged on 17-09-2015 02:29:13; asciilifeform: !b 13
13:33 jurov or the badminton gayness thread
13:37 jurov whatever, flushed. BingoBoingo if you are ever about to !bN where N > 5, just add it to wiki.
13:40 ascii_field neato
13:43 mircea_popescu !up ascii_field
13:44 ascii_field how's the wine mircea_popescu
13:44 mircea_popescu dude this country... so there's a nice wine shop, trying you know, to be upscale.
13:45 mircea_popescu i go in, i want to buy stuff, i select a decent half dozen. i get TWENTYFIVE OFF for paying cash.
13:45 mircea_popescu 25%, fancy that. clearly visa is such a challenger for bitcoin.
13:45 ascii_field sounds more like an orc selling under the register
13:45 mircea_popescu then, the guy can't work his fucking machine, takes him longer to input my economic activity into his fucking compuer than it took me to engage in it.
13:45 ascii_field (puts money in pocket, writes down 'broke some bottles, sorry')
13:46 mircea_popescu dude was clearly shop owner.
13:46 mircea_popescu moving on : he can't fucking pack for the life of him.
13:46 ascii_field perhaps has a partner
13:46 ascii_field who needs to not-be-paid a bit
13:46 mircea_popescu i bought two champagne flutes of actual genuine bohemian glass (i tested, couldn't believe either)
13:46 mircea_popescu 90 peso each. ~5 dollars.
13:47 mircea_popescu then he packed them. he packed ONE in about a cubic foot of corrugated cardboard, sat the other bare next to it. just like that, in the bag.
13:47 ascii_field is leaded glass such a rarity today?
13:47 mircea_popescu since they decided to pretend like " swarovski crystals" yes.
13:48 mircea_popescu anyway. it is fucking impossible to make sense of these people. it's like selective down syndrome, only half the brain is affected.
13:48 mircea_popescu ascii_field not like he didn't give me a receipt.
13:48 ascii_field in usa it's the other half..
13:48 ascii_field (but often, both.)
13:48 mircea_popescu srsly. in usa it's the other half.
13:48 mircea_popescu the fucked up sorts of choices one has to face.
13:50 mircea_popescu wouldn't you think, if you decide in your late 40s to switch gears and open a wanna-be wine shop, that you pick up the fucking book of how to pack, do exercises in your garage, something ?
13:50 ascii_field i've been - imho, very decently - packing 'ebay' gizmos for yearz
13:50 mircea_popescu just so customers don't look at you while you amble around with your two left legs transplanted for arms ?
13:50 ascii_field mircea_popescu actually got to see an example of my l337 p4ck1ng
13:51 ascii_field at least, what ro customs left of it !
13:51 mircea_popescu lol right.
13:54 mircea_popescu http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/10/no-borders-activist-gang-raped-by-migrants-pressured-into-silence-to-not-damage-cause-3061790.html << wonder how true this is.
13:54 assbot ‘No Borders’ Activist Gang Raped By Migrants, Pressured Into Silence To Not ‘Damage Cause’ | Opinion - Conservative ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4VPIi )
13:54 mircea_popescu not that it's not readily believable, not that there aren't excellent reasons why it's not in the usg agitprop.
13:55 mircea_popescu im sure all the libertard activists are gonna be all over libtardsplainin' this one.
13:55 ascii_field they had at least one almost identical case during the tahrir square idiocy
13:56 mircea_popescu they will continue to have exactly identicalones for as long as uppitty overfed western women get to interact with the real world.
13:56 ascii_field most of them know better than to venture into the 'real world', aha
14:02 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47650 @ 0.0004952 = 23.5963 BTC [-] {3}
14:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29440 @ 0.00049444 = 14.5563 BTC [-]
14:13 ascii_field http://talosintel.com/angler-exposed << lulzy, spamatronic
14:13 assbot Talos Intel - Threat Spotlight: Angler Exposed Generating Millions in Revenue ... ( http://bit.ly/1MboJKW )
14:24 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00049301 = 15.2094 BTC [-] {2}
14:27 mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats
14:27 gribble Current Blocks: 377759 | Current Difficulty: 6.0813224039440346E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 379007 | Next Difficulty In: 1248 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 6 hours, 21 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
14:28 BingoBoingo <jurov> whatever, flushed. BingoBoingo if you are ever about to !bN where N > 5, just add it to wiki. << k
14:33 punkman so many lolz in bash, someone's gotta do a stand up show
14:39 punkman http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-treasury-bonds-pull-back-1444052528
14:39 assbot Yield of 0% a First at 3-Month Treasury-Bill Sale - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1hoRpDk )
14:39 mircea_popescu yeah srsly.
14:40 mircea_popescu i keep wondering reading that if it's just you know, me lolzing because insider jokes and it's really more like lolsnort,
14:40 mircea_popescu or whether genuinely hysterical.
14:40 punkman there's both
14:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20209 @ 0.00049301 = 9.9632 BTC [-] {2}
14:40 mircea_popescu prolly.
14:41 mircea_popescu anyway, lassia 2013 malbec/csauvignon coupage is quite adequate sandwich wine.
14:42 mircea_popescu why the fuck they use plastic corks is beyond me, but anyway.
14:42 hanbot cvasignon! what do you sandwich it with?
14:43 punkman maybe they can't import enough cork
14:43 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48700 @ 0.00049678 = 24.1932 BTC [+]
14:44 mircea_popescu lol
14:44 mircea_popescu punkman i'd expect cork tree grows here.
14:44 mircea_popescu it grows in fucking greece ffs.
14:45 hanbot portugal.
14:45 mircea_popescu it grows all over, it's oak.
14:45 punkman I don't think there's enough to go around these days
14:46 mircea_popescu hanbot you sandwich fiambres!
14:46 deedbot- [Trilema] No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2015-statement/
14:46 mircea_popescu re that article, i would direct the esteemed readership to footnote three in very particular.
14:48 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
14:48 trinque http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292563 << no it doesn't, simmer down. << sure I'm not actually going to do this
14:48 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 05:28:10; trinque: perhaps this calls for a separate address per type of thing
14:48 trinque curious though how to make the WoT generally available data
14:48 ascii_field mircea_popescu: the thing is practically begging to be c++11-ized
14:49 trinque perhaps it must be centralized in some manner, though perhaps backed up elsewhere
14:49 ascii_field with refcountatronic pointers, etc
14:49 mircea_popescu trinque the major point s that wot is not actually generally available. just like trust is not a scalar,
14:49 mircea_popescu wot data is meanginelss out of context.
14:49 trinque that makes sense
14:49 mircea_popescu i might care what i rated x, or what you rated x. but the meaning of these ratings to a third party we don't know is necessarily 0.
14:50 mircea_popescu obviously the ustardian approach to things ("let's steal someshit!") will try and pretend like it's not so, to "build a business" out of it.
14:50 mircea_popescu but notwithstandingtheir hopes and aspirations to "build businesses", you can't make money renting out the space inside your nose.
14:50 mircea_popescu as carlin aptly observed.
14:52 ascii_field where was that thread
14:52 ascii_field with gossipd/wot
15:00 mircea_popescu in the logs!!1 :D
15:03 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-01-2015#968123 << found it.
15:03 assbot Logged on 07-01-2015 05:29:32; mircea_popescu: this harms because : it gives unknowns a weight they should not have ; it removes the incentive for users to police at their local level ; it allows third parties to construct undeniable chatlogs that they had no business in.
15:08 mircea_popescu aye!
15:09 BingoBoingo Kernel PhorCT by ShitGnomes: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/10/06/1553233/matthew-garrett-forks-the-linux-kernel
15:09 assbot Matthew Garrett Forks the Linux Kernel - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md8vg6 )
15:09 ascii_field 10,001 people have forked the kernel...
15:10 ascii_field for fucks sake ~i~ forked the kernel
15:10 ascii_field snore.
15:11 BingoBoingo But this time with more Social Justice Whales
15:12 mike_c trinque - you know the wot database is dumped nightly, right?
15:13 trinque yeah, we've just got this fancy decentralized database and so everything looks like a nail
15:14 mike_c there's enough broken things around to fix. the wot seems to be working :)
15:14 trinque sure sure, was idle speculation
15:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38895 @ 0.00049678 = 19.3223 BTC [+]
15:14 mike_c now if we could decentralize PCB routing..
15:15 mike_c maybe ethereum can do it
15:15 BingoBoingo Random language turds by the would be usurper: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/35416.html https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/36376.html https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/33455.html
15:15 assbot mjg59 | Internet abuse culture is a tech industry problem ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97Cs )
15:15 assbot mjg59 | Reverse this ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97SN )
15:15 assbot mjg59 | On joining the FSF board ... ( http://bit.ly/1Md97lY )
15:15 BingoBoingo "Being a cis white man who's a native English speaker from a fairly well-off background, I'm pretty familiar with privilege. "
15:19 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
15:32 mircea_popescu which garrett is this ?!
15:33 mircea_popescu oh. for a momenbt i thought it was the lord british garrett.
15:33 mircea_popescu who the fuck cares seriously.
15:34 mircea_popescu "Cutting yourself off from that community impairs your ability to do work"
15:35 mircea_popescu dude get fucked, cutting b=a from the imbecillity has improved its ability to do work like 10x if not more.
15:35 mircea_popescu one sufficient reason ethereum will never ever amount to anything is exactly its failure to cut itself off from idiots.
15:35 mircea_popescu and so forth.
15:35 BingoBoingo Just you wait, next this heretic kernel gets KDBUS then Debian will switch to it. Maybe Fedora first because of Poettering.
15:35 Naphex https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html
15:35 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MdaYXQ )
15:35 mircea_popescu heck, bitcoin got a lot better once it cut itself off from the usgavin & freiends
15:36 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo debian can switch to dead squirrel for all the difference it makes to me.
15:36 mircea_popescu <Naphex> https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html << speaking of which, plox to give the guy's numbers a good shakedown, because im considering listing xotika this month.
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15:36 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MdaYXQ )
15:38 Naphex aye i'll have a special section for all this soon. at the moment first report delivered like this
15:38 ascii_field countdown to 'intel et al supports garret kernel only' in 3, 2, 1...
15:40 mircea_popescu yaya
15:41 mircea_popescu they can support "free syrian militia" or w/e also for all the difference it makes irl.
15:41 ascii_field in irl they make hardware.
15:41 ascii_field soon to be the only workstation hardware.
15:43 ascii_field 'For far too long, Linux has discriminated against "differently abled" code, with all its segregationist notions of kernel-vs-userspace. And even within userspace, could the very word "permissions" get any closer to "privilege"??? At long last, viruses we have historically relegated to the slums of Windows will finally have the right to run in the ivory sandbox of Linux - We need "Runtime Justice" for all code, whether
15:43 ascii_field CLI or GUI, whether drivers or devices, whether signed or malware! There is no such thing as an "illegal" instruction!' << win
15:43 ascii_field best tr0l0l0l
15:44 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18982 @ 0.00049232 = 9.3452 BTC [-] {2}
15:45 ascii_field '"He is a recipient of the Free Software Award from the Free Software Foundation for his work on Secure Boot, UEFI, and the Linux kernel". Ah! All the bits that I *don't* want in the kernel. Did he work on systemd too?'
15:45 ascii_field this was a thing ?!!!
15:47 mircea_popescu see, thisis the problem of weak men.
15:47 mircea_popescu rms poses as strong, is weak, on this word taken at its word fsf is born, then i have to contend with "fucking awards"
15:47 mircea_popescu i propose to you that there is exactly one reason satoshi kept quiet and buggered off.
15:47 mircea_popescu that reason is - that he did not want to face my wrath.
15:48 ascii_field eh, steve morse is still alive
15:49 ascii_field (author of 8086)
15:49 ascii_field faced wrath of mircea_popescu ?
15:50 mircea_popescu how did that quote go
15:51 mircea_popescu "Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me."
15:52 mircea_popescu anyway. the advantage of anon & disappeared as opposed to "going to every conference that serves pasta" is that you don't have to face the "i fucking expected better of you" reproach.
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15:53 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
15:55 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/a024c31891a9a2b521cc0371f84a9fa7/tumblr_niwz0aLZHB1skwz29o1_1280.jpg << not bad idea huh.
15:55 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ph0tbk )
15:56 jurov imma send any gay with doubts to this chan
15:56 mircea_popescu whyssat ?
15:57 mircea_popescu !up livegnik
15:58 jurov if they aren't aroused by these chicks, then there is no doubt left :D
15:58 mircea_popescu notrly, just upping people.
15:58 mircea_popescu jurov is gayness actually "not aroused by women" ?
15:58 mircea_popescu i thought it was more along the "prefers to fuck guys"
15:58 jurov what else
15:58 mircea_popescu if a dude's aroused by stockings he's not a stockingay now, is he ?
15:59 jurov "women in stockings arouse me. am i gay or not?"
15:59 * mircea_popescu has known plenty of gay dudes fetishistically aroused by slavegirls, in the slave aspect rather than in the girl aspect
15:59 mircea_popescu "wannabe her"
16:01 jurov oh that. i was joking about dudes that cannot distinguish that yet.
16:01 mircea_popescu aok :p
16:02 jurov ;;seen williamdunne
16:02 gribble williamdunne was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <williamdunne> But yah
16:03 livegnik Thnx mircea_popescu.
16:04 mircea_popescu :p
16:06 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50650 @ 0.00048715 = 24.6741 BTC [-] {4}
16:10 jurov ;;ticker
16:10 gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 247.46, Best ask: 247.47, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 247.47, 24 hour volume: 17622.82420398, 24 hour low: 240.71, 24 hour high: 249.01, 24 hour vwap: None
16:12 mike_c I'm tired of 200->300->200->300->...
16:13 mike_c get a new trick ticker.
16:15 mircea_popescu lol
16:15 mircea_popescu dude it's stable like visa!
16:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41821 @ 0.00049678 = 20.7758 BTC [+]
16:15 mircea_popescu eur/usd!
16:17 Naphex after some feedback i have cleaned the xotika.tv report some. A revised version is available here: https://xotika.tv/static/report_06102015_v2.html
16:17 assbot XOtika.TV Statement - 08/06/2015 to 06/10/2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv2DwI )
16:18 mike_c !rated naphex
16:18 assbot You have not rated naphex.
16:19 mike_c !rate naphex 2 serial btc entrepreneur
16:19 assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/296b3becab046f29
16:19 mircea_popescu super cereal!
16:21 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is it domain/avatar.png or /avatar.jpg on your blog for avatars?
16:22 mircea_popescu you can just source a page you knwo
16:23 mike_c positive cash flow.. looks like a bizness to me
16:25 mircea_popescu so it does.
16:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00048403 = 13.5044 BTC [-] {2}
16:25 mircea_popescu seems he hit the ground running, at least sofar.
16:25 mircea_popescu anyway, youtube substitute is certainly needed in teh republic.
16:26 mircea_popescu say Naphex, wouldn't you want to run a server for s.nsa too ?
16:26 Naphex i also have otika.tv domains ready for non adult related content
16:26 mircea_popescu i'll pay the upfront for colo, you just have to do the minimal sysadmining ascii_field might require
16:26 Naphex but it sure as hell needs a lot more capacity
16:26 Naphex and servers and the way to monetizing everything is long
16:27 mircea_popescu one expansion idea would be somnething like a mumble server. but integrated with xotika.
16:27 mircea_popescu somehow. dunno how. but gamers and strippers is the winner combo.
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16:27 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
16:27 * ascii_field needs very little other than the box
16:28 mircea_popescu mike_c anyway, willprobably have to yield some of the % which is maybe high atm. but still, i think it has nice perspectives.
16:29 Naphex mircea_popescu: percentage is right about perfect at the moment; performers adjust the price and tipping is completly voluntary
16:30 Naphex i will be yielding up to 35% based on quarterly performance
16:30 mircea_popescu makes sense
16:30 Naphex or better yet; down too
16:31 Naphex performers have a goal system soon to be objective system they can set up
16:32 mircea_popescu cool.
16:32 mircea_popescu <mircea_popescu> say Naphex, wouldn't you want to run a server for s.nsa too ? << ?
16:32 Naphex can do
16:33 mircea_popescu what's your provider quote for a 32gb amd something with ~1tb hdd ?
16:34 Naphex tell me what you need and i can call my rep and sort it out
16:34 Naphex i'll get a quote on that tomorrow
16:34 mircea_popescu danke.
16:34 Naphex i usually buy my own hardware and use that pay per 1U
16:34 Naphex most of their offers are supermicro's but have all sorts
16:34 * mircea_popescu can picture alf jumping up and down
16:34 Naphex i use 2U dells
16:34 mircea_popescu yeah i can see buying the hw and getting 1u or 2u as needed.
16:34 Naphex you can buy the hardware and ship it to the DC
16:34 mircea_popescu really it should fit in 1u i think ?
16:35 ascii_field i've yet to see this kind of thing in 1u
16:35 ascii_field but who knows
16:35 mike_c really? you can fit a lot in 1u these days
16:36 mircea_popescu i thought they mostly fit it in 1u by now.
16:36 * mircea_popescu not an expert.
16:36 mike_c http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816110055
16:36 assbot ASUS RS500A-E6/PS4 1U Rackmount Server Barebone Dual Socket G34 AMD SR5650 DDR3 1600/1333/1066/800 - Newegg.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv3Vb7 )
16:37 ascii_field neato
16:39 mircea_popescu and under the overheard in my house heading, "would you like to taste my pee ?" "sure. but... didn't you just have asparagus ?" "aha" "that's supposed to be the #1 pee ruiner." "oh man, i can actually taste the asparagus wow!" "is it strong ?" "it's pretty strong yeah".
16:39 mircea_popescu i guess tomorrow im having pineapple.
16:40 ascii_field l0l!
16:40 ascii_field next, amanita magic mushroom ?
16:40 ascii_field (expelled unchanged!)
16:40 mircea_popescu im not that into psychoactives.
16:41 ascii_field sure. but asparagus only goes so far..
16:46 mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/ac190b527e8e20d91509f94f9223a734/tumblr_nj0jkzJ4a41u4e2kko1_1280.jpg << transparent is for virgin!
16:46 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv4B0f )
16:49 BingoBoingo lol https://archive.is/vpCKt
16:49 assbot Bitpay payments not being paid " invalid transaction associated to this invoice as a result of the stress test" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv4VvQ )
16:52 BingoBoingo So malleability thing going now, excepting retards that do the 0-conf depend on txid... pretty much a mempool bloater
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16:53 jurov and it helps exchange rate, it seems
16:54 jurov re:mempool, interesting that stan found out txen are never actually freed (see last S.NSA report)
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16:56 BingoBoingo Especially never freed if never mined, because malleable got the other conf'd first
17:00 asciilifeform !up ascii_field
17:00 ascii_field https://www.hackinparis.com/sites/hackinparis.com/files/lopes_esteves_kasmi_you_dont_hear_me.pdf << lulzy. >> http://dpaste.com/1DV84YN.txt (missing, of course, illustrations)
17:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv5HJd )
17:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv5HJj )
17:01 ascii_field ^ in case anyone did not understand that 'voice command' is asinine
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17:02 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293105 << i would like to see some of the folks here independently confirm this discovery.
17:02 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 20:54:27; jurov: re:mempool, interesting that stan found out txen are never actually freed (see last S.NSA report)
17:02 ascii_field and more people-other-than-me-hacking-on-therealbitcoin in general.
17:05 ascii_field ;;seen artifexd
17:05 gribble artifexd was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 48 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <artifexd> I'm comfortable calling it a review. Not just of what it is but what it was and how it got to where it is.
17:05 ascii_field eh.
17:10 BingoBoingo Half a year in the life
17:11 ascii_field mircea_popescu et al: http://habrahabr.ru/company/mosigra/blog/268211 << user interfaces in china. interesting enough to be worth the work (googletranslate if you must)
17:11 assbot Что я узнал про интерфейсы в реальном мире в Китае / Блог компании Мосигра / Хабрахабр ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv6rOE )
17:14 ascii_field epic mega-treatise.
17:23 trinque Given that the main problem of the country - to cope with different types of DDoS on the infrastructure due to the large number of users, different solutions are born. For example, the train has a separate toilet and separate washrooms. Excellent TRIZ principle - separation. << thinking about human DDOS... awesome.
17:25 ascii_field re: triz:
17:25 ascii_field !s altshuller
17:25 assbot 2 results for 'altshuller' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=altshuller
17:25 ascii_field http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-05-2014#685942
17:25 assbot Logged on 22-05-2014 17:16:09; asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: 'And Suddenly the Inventor Appeared.' by Genrich Altshuller.
17:25 ascii_field ^ mega-scholar
17:25 ascii_field in all seriousness
17:25 ascii_field imho the only man to have ever gotten anywhere studying invention in the abstract.
17:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00048697 = 9.569 BTC [+]
17:30 trinque !up ascii_field
17:31 trinque many houses in Portland had that stairstepped portion as on the bridge
17:31 trinque on steep driveways
17:40 mod6 sweet, V code is basically complete. one remaining test left to write surrouding 'press' (shouldn't take long), then just documentation to write about the thing.
17:40 mod6 almost there :]
17:44 ascii_field mod6: neat!
17:44 ascii_field mod6: what's surrounding-press ?
17:45 ascii_field oh i get it
17:45 ascii_field this is your v-in-perl ?
17:46 mod6 yeah. i mean, "cucumber automated test that surrounds (gives coverage to) the press function"
17:46 ascii_field ah
17:46 mod6 so that's the only thing left and then just user documentation. and then can start passing around the first version for people to try out to ensure of zero major defects.
17:47 ascii_field mod6: you may end up, like it or not, king of 'v' ! see latest s.nsa broadcast.
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17:47 mod6 then will publish to th elist.
17:47 mod6 I saw your comments in your monthly s.nsa broadcast :)
17:48 ascii_field my only real quibble with the preview of this (or was it punkman's ??) 'v' shown a while back, is that it used interactive questions to user
17:48 ascii_field 'v' really needs to be a pure commandline thing
17:48 ascii_field as in, there ought to be no operations which result in prompts
17:49 mod6 ah, no this thing doesn't prompt at all. just command line flags. works a lot like your implementation. no caching, etc.
17:49 ascii_field then great.
17:49 mod6 one major difference is i'm using Getopt::Long to control user input -- which ends up altering flags instead of 'w' for wot, ends up being '-w' or '--wot' but I think we can get over that.
17:50 ascii_field why does it demand the - ?
17:50 mod6 its just how it determines options from values.
17:50 mod6 perhaps later, i could rebuild my own or something.
17:50 ascii_field can't just get argv raw ?
17:51 mod6 I actually started with this, but .. it got hairy to control some of the input.
17:52 mod6 Tried out Getopt::Long and it was able to do what I wanted with much less arm-wrestling.
17:53 mod6 Eh, who knows, maybe I can take another wack at that part before I'm finished here.
17:55 BingoBoingo !t m s.qntr
17:55 assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00024131 / 0.00028698 / 0.0003036 (750 shares, 0.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00024109 / 0.00033121 / 0.00040884 (78161 shares, 25.89 BTC)
18:06 BingoBoingo !up ascii_field
18:08 mod6 ascii_field: so yah, now that the code is pretty much complete, I'll see if I can get rid of getopt::long and elegantly implement the options handling on my own.
~ 22 minutes ~
18:31 mod6 asciilifeform: yeah, ok - this works just fine now, seems even more clean than getopt::long.
18:31 mod6 sweet.
18:44 punkman http://habrahabr.ru/company/mosigra/blog/268211 << love the winter scooter https://habrastorage.org/files/cb0/236/32e/cb023632e8c64a66b45c2c1ae5e86ca3.jpeg
18:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gv6rOE )
18:44 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FSwm8n )
18:46 punkman ascii_field: my only real quibble with the preview of this (or was it punkman's ??) 'v' shown a while back, is that it used interactive questions to user << yeah it can export the patch sequence and you can then press without interaction
18:48 punkman another possibility is that it'd let you choose multiple heads and then it'd lookup all ascendants of chosen heads and press with those
18:48 BingoBoingo http://dpaste.com/0Y75K2G.txt
18:48 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Okb7Pc )
18:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00049403 = 4.9897 BTC [+]
19:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00049311 = 9.8622 BTC [-]
19:04 BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all
19:04 gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 246.99, vol: 27730.59016906 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 242.739, vol: 10097.16641 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 247.58, vol: 16982.7753674 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 251.382703, vol: 21700.21620000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 245.88, vol: 79.87407055 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 247.94, vol: 126.26585765 | Volume-weighted last average: 247.804040843
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19:20 cazalla does anyone know what this is? finding many of them on the surface of the garden most mornings, thought i was going crazy at first as i removed a couple but they are popping up everywhere http://i.imgur.com/U5SSbtU.jpg
19:20 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc4hP9 )
19:21 BingoBoingo Any nearby trees?
19:21 cazalla many
19:21 cazalla finding it on top of potted plants too
19:22 BingoBoingo Any of them have shit looking vaguely like that growing on them?
19:23 cazalla not on the trees or plants, just the soil
19:23 cazalla those little brown balls are dry and when broken up seem to spread in the air like a dandelion
19:26 BingoBoingo Gotta be some sort of flower/seed
19:27 BingoBoingo But since australia prolly crazy poisonous
19:35 BingoBoingo !up artifexd
19:38 BingoBoingo In other news https://archive.is/JeaA0
19:38 assbot Agility - Pembroke Welsh Corgi Puppies-Celestial Star Corgis ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc5w0T )
19:41 BingoBoingo https://dogsofsf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/IMG_23711.jpg
19:41 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc5MNb )
19:46 pete_dushenski ;;later tell mike_c the discrepancy is that of the +/- sign. Strangely, just since last night, the sign indicated in the 'direct' row changed from (-) to () [aka (+)], but the graph line is still red instead of green, as seen here : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/btcalpha-sign-silliness.png.
19:46 assbot Page not found | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc6c6g )
19:46 gribble Error: "aka" is not a valid command.
19:46 pete_dushenski also, i know that you can rate in private. sheesh u guise.
19:46 pete_dushenski gribble no le gusta square brackets ?
19:46 pete_dushenski ;;later tell mike_c the discrepancy is that of the +/- sign. Strangely, just since last night, the sign indicated in the 'direct' row changed from (-) to () (aka (+)), but the graph line is still red instead of green, as seen here : http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/btcalpha-sign-silliness.png.
19:47 assbot Page not found | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc6c6g )
19:47 gribble The operation succeeded.
19:47 pete_dushenski hm. guess so. til.
19:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00049549 = 6.8873 BTC [+]
19:49 BingoBoingo ;;grammar gribble has a one all its own
19:49 gribble Error: "grammar" is not a valid command.
19:50 BingoBoingo !up wpalczynski
19:52 BingoBoingo !up SirJacket
19:52 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292453 << and here i was imaging mp shmoozing with local intelligencia that he'd somehow attracted with a giant magnet from clear across the country, having his girls pour bubbly while the conversation drifted from how one tests for ~actual genuine bohemian glass~ to the best surgeon's stitch for a knife wound in the back to the best source for local huevos to
19:52 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 00:23:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-10-2015#1292365 << lol. i have yet to meet an argentinian that would be qualified to finish highschool. fortunately, online's a thing.
19:52 pete_dushenski goodness only knows !
19:54 pete_dushenski mpoe up 25% overnight. snazzy. hope a few of you caught a piece of the sale ;)
19:56 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293010 << at least until pr pete shows up. then the lay-low-party's over.
19:56 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 19:52:02; mircea_popescu: anyway. the advantage of anon & disappeared as opposed to "going to every conference that serves pasta" is that you don't have to face the "i fucking expected better of you" reproach.
19:57 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i still think there are thinking folks hidden deep in b-a. ~somebody~ is buying that cnc machinery.
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19:57 BingoBoingo I believe in PR pete
19:58 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293061 << been reading more about gaming marketing. stumbled across popcap games, which reminded me that once upon a time, more than a half-decade ago, i actually played an iOS game for a stretch : plants vs. zombies (tower defense game)
19:58 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 20:27:24; mircea_popescu: somehow. dunno how. but gamers and strippers is the winner combo.
19:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54508 @ 0.00049346 = 26.8975 BTC [-]
19:59 cazalla pete_dushenski, that became an ios game at the tail end of its lifetime
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19:59 pete_dushenski aha. didn't know that.
19:59 pete_dushenski oh, i guess i also played 'words with friends' but that's really just scrabble, not much of a 'computer game'
20:00 pete_dushenski asciilifeform what makes you think anyone is arhentina is buying cnc machinery ?
20:01 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47467 @ 0.00049558 = 23.5237 BTC [+] {2}
20:01 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1292987 << makes sense. look at the size of those dividends. cripes.
20:01 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 19:36:34; mircea_popescu: <Naphex> https://xotika.tv/static/report06102015.html << speaking of which, plox to give the guy's numbers a good shakedown, because im considering listing xotika this month.
20:01 pete_dushenski impressive work, Naphex !
20:03 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i do not know who is buying. but someone is selling...
20:04 asciilifeform uploading photos i snapped personally
20:04 asciilifeform http://imgur.com/a/dUMl6 << just for pete_dushenski
20:04 assbot cnc in buenos aires - Album on Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5l2lV )
20:04 asciilifeform both cnc and traditional mills, lathes, in a little shop.
20:05 asciilifeform ben_vulpes was standing right next to me when i saw this.
20:05 asciilifeform (and iirc he, unlike i, had even been inside at one time)
20:07 pete_dushenski perhaps the number of cnc machines for sale in buenos aires is indicative of the lack of thinking folks there ?
20:07 asciilifeform ..?
20:07 * asciilifeform does not follow the syllogism
20:07 pete_dushenski that they're still for sale.
20:08 pete_dushenski and not in someone's shop or home laboratory
20:08 asciilifeform unless the whole thing is a front, someone is buying
20:08 BingoBoingo http://38.media.tumblr.com/35e1b1e12513589ed42d9ffafcef809e/tumblr_inline_mssdnoHyyg1qz4rgp.gif
20:08 pete_dushenski asciilifeform because why ? like arhentina has an economy or something ?
20:09 pete_dushenski sounds to me like it's 100% posturing that no estan pobres
20:09 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: presumably the shop keeper pays rent
20:09 asciilifeform with... money
20:09 pete_dushenski and he draws in customers into his store with cnc machines in the front window
20:09 asciilifeform and what, cuts them up for organs ?
20:10 pete_dushenski like putting a bugatti veyron in the window of sachs fifth avenue
20:10 pete_dushenski no one buys, many coo and gawk and maybe even walk in to buy some perfume
20:10 asciilifeform perfume?!
20:10 asciilifeform i saw a drum of cutting lube
20:10 pete_dushenski at sachs, yes.
20:10 asciilifeform i suppose for some - perfume.
20:11 pete_dushenski lol
20:11 pete_dushenski not much for shopping are ya ?
20:11 asciilifeform i usually get things mailed in
20:11 pete_dushenski i guess without ebay and paypal you'd be swimming in dough
20:11 asciilifeform but once in a while i go to a shop.
20:11 BingoBoingo <pete_dushenski> no one buys, many coo and gawk and maybe even walk in to buy some perfume << TrueFax, brother and his wife got their newest corgi AT A DISCOUNT because it had the "fluffy" mutation
20:12 pete_dushenski fluffy corgi ? got a pic ?
20:12 asciilifeform most recently, went into one that had gps-guided gigantic quadrocopters for sale. at ~1300 usd a pop, even. funnily, they sell. and idiots fly them into various 'forbidden zones' like whitehouse, etc.
20:12 asciilifeform (the costly machines fly themselves, luser points and grunts on his ipNohe to give coordinates)
20:14 asciilifeform (for anyone unfamiliar with the subject - serious multicopter aficionados sneer at luserdom, and build strictly from parts)
20:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22759 @ 0.00049346 = 11.2307 BTC [-]
20:14 pete_dushenski hell, copter's cheaper than ipNohe (top end)
20:14 BingoBoingo <pete_dushenski> fluffy corgi ? got a pic ? << Challenge because of few good options to move pics from turdopnoHe to Interwebs since Imgur app went retarded
20:14 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: wai wut?!
20:14 asciilifeform which pnohe costs >1300 usd ?
20:14 pete_dushenski the top end one.
20:15 pete_dushenski ah, maybe cad...
20:15 mircea_popescu also http://40.media.tumblr.com/16986e3f1aecae232080886cabe25214/tumblr_ni8rodg7Ww1u4e2kko1_1280.jpg
20:15 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc8h2c )
20:15 pete_dushenski bit of a ding on cad/usd of late.
20:15 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293103 << been going for like... 2 days ? http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-10-2015#1291963
20:15 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 20:52:06; BingoBoingo: So malleability thing going now, excepting retards that do the 0-conf depend on txid... pretty much a mempool bloater
20:15 assbot Logged on 05-10-2015 05:59:13; assbot: Logged on 04-10-2015 17:49:14; mircea_popescu: check out bizarro tx rewriting. i issued fca843c0b40a1755eee073a719c856baa7fbf5ac28db84804a44a91f52638632 which worked as expected, but apparently there's a 5269a0e862876040db21706a7849ffd1b7d63e72d6dd61b1d2431a51698bb007 restatement of it
20:16 asciilifeform pete_dushenski: current quote is ~1k usd for the fattest one from apple
20:16 asciilifeform go, buy.
20:16 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: A bit longer http://qntra.net/2015/10/malleability-issues-continue-testing-zero-conf-faithful/
20:16 assbot Malleability Issues Continue Testing Zero-conf Faithful | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1jc8mmp )
20:16 mircea_popescu right
20:16 pete_dushenski asciilifeform plus extended warranty plus dock plus case plus plus plus. this is all sop.
20:16 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293111 << say wut alf ?
20:16 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 21:01:44; ascii_field: ^ in case anyone did not understand that 'voice command' is asinine
20:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: try walking into a room of gadget collectors, and say 'OK google, delete all...'
20:17 BingoBoingo Not much longer, but long enough for Derpanies to latch onto Derp hosted wallet's engineering error to make excuses for themselves
20:17 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: then watch their faces
20:17 mircea_popescu !up iinaj
20:18 asciilifeform (i do not know in which languages this feature works today, but english world is awash in it)
20:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform must be they put something in my coffee. wut ?!
20:18 mircea_popescu voicecommand as in, !v ? and google delete what ? items ?
20:18 asciilifeform nono
20:18 asciilifeform link concerned an article regarding voice-controlled gadgets
20:18 mircea_popescu oh oh
20:19 asciilifeform which can be, it turns out, 'commanded' remotely via strategically-shaped radio signal - which gets heterodyned in the headphones
20:19 mircea_popescu yeah i totally wanna see 6 axis 1mw robot arms controlled by voice.
20:19 BingoBoingo <pete_dushenski> asciilifeform plus extended warranty plus dock plus case plus plus plus. this is all sop. << No one I know with iPNohes paid for them, teh_ girlfriendz (or their dads did
20:19 asciilifeform (typically it is a pNohe)
20:19 mircea_popescu "i didn't say pound me into pate, i said bring tea to pete!"
20:20 pete_dushenski egyptian licorice tea, if you please
20:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: normally in usa the telco pays (in exchange for an indenture lock-in chumping)
20:20 mircea_popescu they DO have various girl submission devices that are intended to be phone controlled.
20:20 mircea_popescu butterflies and whatnot.
20:21 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not anymore, financing plan is new SOP
20:21 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: with 'bluetooth' receivers even.
20:21 mircea_popescu aha.
20:21 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: i think this was in the log
20:21 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: rental thing
20:21 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo in usistan, home of the brave leasees, only
20:21 asciilifeform (why? i've no idea)
20:21 asciilifeform who rents a $1k gadget ?
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20:21 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Not rental, as of earlier this year loan, just like for car
20:22 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293144 << i dunno about that, guy's already king of a vast domain.
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20:22 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 21:47:00; ascii_field: mod6: you may end up, like it or not, king of 'v' ! see latest s.nsa broadcast.
20:22 mircea_popescu more kings needed.
20:22 asciilifeform i mean, i'd rent an excavator, say, if i only wanted it for a day
20:22 asciilifeform but rent phone ?
20:22 mircea_popescu asciilifeform do i need to link you to the article delineating fucking organizers bought on time ?
20:22 asciilifeform throwback to pre-at&t breakup..
20:22 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was in egypt iirc ?
20:23 mircea_popescu buenos aires, same thing.
20:23 asciilifeform i suppose gringolandia is now a kind of egyptertina
20:24 mircea_popescu it's actually remarkably close to where egypt was, pre us/saudi split and the entire nonsense since 2000s.
20:24 asciilifeform (phun phakt: lucent corp. still brings in $20M/yr or so... renting out rotary phones. caveat is that this figure is a few yrs old, and a substantial number of the chumps are likely to have succumbed to old age since it was last published)
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20:25 mircea_popescu cairo, 50% of population, ba 50% of population. nonsensical govt, nonsensical govt ; very mentally stunted population that excels at menial, labour intensive tasks ; overblown palace bureaucracy, the entire works.
20:25 mircea_popescu only difference is the egyptian chicks fuck more intensively while the argentines look better. but...\
20:25 asciilifeform as in all orcish lands ?
20:25 mircea_popescu i dunno. ukrs nothing like that.
20:25 asciilifeform ~which~ ukrs ?
20:26 asciilifeform (true ukrs, or east ?)
20:27 mircea_popescu true ukrs
20:27 * asciilifeform knows these folks largely secondhand
20:28 mircea_popescu it's "colonies where the indigents weren't massacred". mexico, egypt, you name it.
20:28 mircea_popescu heck, even china, at leastoriginally.
20:28 asciilifeform india
20:29 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: imgur.com/sG5TJMb << New one is one the left, smaller dog 14 weeks of age
20:29 mircea_popescu pete_dushenski you clink it. has a very speciffic sound.
20:30 asciilifeform incidentally (and if ben_vulpes were awake he might explain) lead is often added to other substances, not only glass, to ease machining
20:31 mircea_popescu certainly leaded glass is a better blow.
20:31 asciilifeform e.g., 'free machining steel' used by prototype makers is often leaded
20:31 asciilifeform better ~cut~
20:31 mircea_popescu that also.
20:31 asciilifeform (that was the original point of throwing in the pb)
20:31 asciilifeform it is a lubricant.
20:31 mircea_popescu i thought much better friability.
20:31 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: http://imgur.com/sWn4jBs << More detail
20:31 assbot Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5mGnm )
20:31 pete_dushenski BingoBoingo dog's as fluffy as the rug. thankfully, not as green.
20:31 mircea_popescu was the original point
20:31 BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Indeed
20:31 asciilifeform dogue!
20:32 pete_dushenski mircea_popescu aha. neat !
20:32 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293212 <<< yeah. somebody looking for a clothes hanger.
20:32 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 23:57:38; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i still think there are thinking folks hidden deep in b-a. ~somebody~ is buying that cnc machinery.
20:33 mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293217 << i fucking love tower defense.
20:33 assbot Logged on 06-10-2015 23:59:24; cazalla: pete_dushenski, that became an ios game at the tail end of its lifetime
20:33 asciilifeform and this is where we learn that mircea_popescu cnc-machines his hangers from beryllium copper
20:33 mircea_popescu in fact, i intend to have a td minigame added as an eulora activity eventually.
20:33 * BingoBoingo will try to bring better, actual camera next time. Smaller Dog's name is Beans. The larger dog is Frank. Both have short legs.
20:34 mircea_popescu asciilifeform one's gotta do what one's gotta do when running out of perky nips.
20:34 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> in fact, i intend to have a td minigame added as an eulora activity eventually. << Before or after Lich's are implemented as a thing to become
20:34 mircea_popescu prolly before.
20:34 BingoBoingo But then who holds the towers?
20:35 mod6 asciilifeform: ya, you were right... got nice looking option control now with only @ARGV. not sure what my malfunction was before.
20:35 asciilifeform neato mod6 !
20:35 mircea_popescu nah, it's a minigame see. something like, you build the case for it, place it in the world, then people use it like a sort of arcade.
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20:35 BingoBoingo Ah
20:36 mircea_popescu and you make money from it, and so on.
20:36 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293310 << my point was that i no longer see a point in maintaining my original 'v' - mod6 has a considerably spiffier one, which ought to be the flagship
20:36 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 00:22:14; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-10-2015#1293144 << i dunno about that, guy's already king of a vast domain.
20:37 asciilifeform mine was more of a proof of concept / motorized spec
20:37 mircea_popescu yes, he's competent. there is however such a thing as competence choking.
20:37 mircea_popescu it even has king in it
20:37 asciilifeform wai wut
20:38 mircea_popescu you know, when the best looking guy ends up with all the women.
20:38 mircea_popescu very little fucking and even less conceiving is done as a result.
20:39 asciilifeform hey it works for walrus
20:40 mircea_popescu i suppose.
20:41 asciilifeform anyway, i'm kinda trying to de-walrus self, by pawning chore onto other fellas
20:41 asciilifeform and it is working!
20:41 mircea_popescu hehe. cool, but i also want total walrus factor to go down!
20:42 pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293363 << like in spelunx ! (mega-classic)
20:42 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 00:35:19; mircea_popescu: nah, it's a minigame see. something like, you build the case for it, place it in the world, then people use it like a sort of arcade.
20:42 asciilifeform now all i need is for somebody to take mapTransactions / CTransaction from me...
20:43 pete_dushenski https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqNJCgnohWE << these sounds bring back memories.
20:43 assbot Spelunx and the Caves of Mr. Seudo - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5ndG6 )
20:43 mircea_popescu i also want soul hunter thing as a minigame, and a genetics thing, and a few others. the minigame portion of eulora is gonna be pretty spiffy, really. huge gameplay thing, but i don't really see it happening before 2017..
20:43 asciilifeform no need for book learnin' - just read the src 'for six months'
20:44 pete_dushenski tuesday night : time to go sing my little heart out. cheers !
20:45 danielpbarron mircea_popescu, what tower defense did you play? I know of it from starcraft
20:46 mircea_popescu oh tons. iirc there's even an article
20:46 mircea_popescu https://www.google.com/search?q=site:trilema.com+tower+defense&complete=0&ncr=1 << five or so as it turns out
20:46 assbot site:trilema.com tower defense - Recherche Google ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5npVC )
20:48 asciilifeform re: gamez: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1f3gYeiHBQ << apparently this exists.
20:48 assbot Prison Architect v1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5nvNe )
20:48 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> anyway, i'm kinda trying to de-walrus self, by pawning chore onto other fellas << Qntra struggles with this if any lurkers want a chance to get work done in #b-a wotlandia
20:50 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-DOViwa-q4 << moar
20:50 assbot Prison Architect Alpha 36 - the FINAL ALPHA - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5nBUY )
20:50 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00049346 = 6.0202 BTC [-]
20:51 asciilifeform 'Two people died on the first day of my prison. The solitary was always full, most prisoners were shackled in their cells and a weeaboo legendary prisoner kept breaking out and killing my guards.. On the fourth day, said weeaboo broke through a double-layer solitary cell and stole a shotgun from an armoury. He lit the prison on fire and escaped. That's what I call a good prison.' << l0l
20:52 asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re7ev-hQ8c0
20:52 assbot Prison Architect - One man micro-prison - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5nI2Y )
20:53 * asciilifeform distinctly recalls 'sim-auschwitz' from 1990s, there were scandalous wanks in american media about it, but this is something new
20:54 danielpbarron that steampunk thing doesn't look like what I have played. To me, "tower defence" means building a maze of turrets to control the flow of progressively beefier monsters, the goal being to kill them all before the get through
20:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19033 @ 0.00049346 = 9.392 BTC [-]
20:55 mircea_popescu quite, yes.
20:55 mircea_popescu that's what it means in general.
20:55 asciilifeform the 'prison' thing is also a tower defense
20:55 asciilifeform but, lulzily, from... inside
20:55 mircea_popescu lol
20:57 danielpbarron warcraft3 had a neat variation, "island defence," in which there is one monster and he is controlled by a human player, and joined by defeated defenders
20:59 mircea_popescu danielpbarron http://trilema.com/paid-content/2010/azgardtd.swf << can try that one mebbe. i never managed to get past l ~50 or so.
20:59 assbot Page not found on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5o9Kv )
20:59 mircea_popescu awshit.
21:00 mircea_popescu ;;google azgard tower defense
21:00 asciilifeform l0l swf
21:00 gribble Azgard Tower Defense - Free online games at Agame.com: <http://www.agame.com/game/azgard-tower-defense>; Azgard Tower Defense Game Online - Best Flash Games: <http://www.best-flash-games.net/strategy-games/azgard-tower-defense.html>; Azgard Defence @ Play Tower Defense Games: <http://www.playtowerdefensegames.com/games/918/azgard-defence.html>
21:01 danielpbarron if eulora's to have minigames like TD, I recommend Dota
21:01 mircea_popescu that's a DIFFERENT thing.
21:02 asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2015/10/vessenes-foundation-drops-sponsorship-of-node-explorer/#comment-63937 << l0l!
21:02 assbot Vessenes' Foundation Drops Sponsorship of Node Explorer | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1KX2xSS )
21:02 asciilifeform but is this 'shakespeare, or another man by that name' ?!
21:04 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Appears to credibly be that man to the point it can be verified without strong signatures
21:07 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39456 @ 0.00048869 = 19.2818 BTC [-]
21:07 deedbot- [Trilema] MPEx (S.MPOE) September 2015 Statement - http://trilema.com/2015/mpex-smpoe-september-2015-statement/
21:08 mircea_popescu "While the press support and relationships established can benefit your game, a lot of companies have “won” E3 and vanished shortly thereafter."
21:08 mircea_popescu and by a lot we mean to say.... pretty much all.
21:08 mircea_popescu heck, bitpay won the what was it, indy race ?
21:14 deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Federal Reserve will raise federal funds rate October FOMC meeting - http://bitbet.us/bet/1201/federal-reserve-will-raise-federal-funds-rate-october/#b13
21:15 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39600 @ 0.00048711 = 19.2896 BTC [-] {3}
21:23 deedbot- [Qntra] Fiat Broker Broker Scottrade Hacked - http://qntra.net/2015/10/fiat-broker-broker-scottrade-hacked/
21:24 mike_c ;;later tell pete_dushenski the graph is likely just cached in your browser. press f5.
21:24 gribble The operation succeeded.
21:24 BingoBoingo ^ Fiat GLBSE got Owned apparently
21:24 mike_c and yes, i could put a cache buster on that.. i'll put it on the todo
21:26 BingoBoingo What if on my machine F5 doesn't mean "reload" but instead "re-load"
21:28 mircea_popescu that's a decent amount of broker.
21:29 mircea_popescu mike_c prolly just set the ttl on the pic
21:29 mircea_popescu Information publicly disclosed on the Scottrade breech << lulzy, but breach.
21:33 BingoBoingo Fuck, again
21:34 BingoBoingo Fxd
21:35 phf asciilifeform: now all i need is for somebody to take mapTransactions / CTransaction from me... << i started investigating the issue a while ago, but dropped it since wasn't sure if it was the highest priority. i've been traveling, but i'll get back to it. i don't see any reason it can't be resolved. i'm not claiming territory, but unless someone more compotent decides to take over you can consider me
21:35 phf responsible for the issue.
21:35 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293308 <<< rent to buy ipad scam is popular here
21:35 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 00:21:52; asciilifeform: who rents a $1k gadget ?
21:35 cazalla https://www.radio-rentals.com.au/apple/ipad
21:36 assbot IPad Rental | Rent to Own | Radio Rentals ... ( http://bit.ly/1j65qab )
21:36 mircea_popescu phf this is a non-competence blocking issue. it doesn't matter how competent or credentialed you are,code in question will be reviewed anyway.
21:37 cazalla even comes with free installation https://www.radio-rentals.com.au/apple/iphone/apple-iphone-5-16gb
21:37 assbot Rent IPhone 5S 16Gb IPhone | Rent to Own | Radio Rentals ... ( http://bit.ly/1j65Ddu )
21:37 BingoBoingo phf: Pls take it. I've been waiting to fuck something of this sort on my 0.7-ish tree.
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21:38 mircea_popescu and in general, two types of problems. 1. "build me a bridge" ; 2. "find me the leak". 1 is blocking, but 2 isn't - if a baby goat finds the leak the leak's just as found as if jesus had found it.
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21:39 * BingoBoingo hates C the more I play with TI-92
21:39 cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293321 <<< i use to work for main telco doing cust service.. not uncommon to find little old lady with 2 or 3 rotary phone rentals attached to account for years on end.. sometimes little old ladies had wireless, cable and dsl connections because some indian fuck sold her on the idea so he could get the commission
21:39 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 00:24:22; asciilifeform: (phun phakt: lucent corp. still brings in $20M/yr or so... renting out rotary phones. caveat is that this figure is a few yrs old, and a substantial number of the chumps are likely to have succumbed to old age since it was last published)
21:40 thestringpuller the TI-92 uses C?
21:40 BingoBoingo TI-92 is the Corgi/Manul/PampasCat of the computing world. The more you play with it, the less you can stand other...
21:40 phf aight
21:41 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: You can program in TI-BASIC shit or ASM. Sure, you can compile ASM from C, but might as well derpot in basic then.
21:42 BingoBoingo Also far more fun than real macs and the TI-89 because useful default software and full keyboard.
21:42 BingoBoingo https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/ << No longer Favorite.
21:42 assbot BitBet - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 1.03 B (47%) on Yes, 1.15 B (53%) on No | closing in 6 months 2 weeks | weight: 95`342 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwPbF )
21:43 BingoBoingo https://bitbet.us/bet/1205/marco-rubio-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/ << By BitBet Rubio clearly the Repube nominee
21:43 assbot BitBet - Marco Rubio will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 0.54 B (63%) on Yes, 0.32 B (37%) on No | closing in 6 months 1 week| weight: 93`543 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwMN1 )
21:44 BingoBoingo No longer Jeb and Rubio as co-favorites. Rubio is now clear nominee.
21:45 mircea_popescu lol
21:45 BingoBoingo Or should I stahp keeping a consistent BitBet payout address because my latest experiment in that scares people https://bitbet.us/stats/14BqjpHAeM2EC6aJkrzM7cbTeePQCJJs5C/
21:45 assbot BitBet Stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1KK06Tn )
21:46 BingoBoingo Seriously though, even when not loading weird on it TI-92 is a great desk calculator.
21:46 thestringpuller asciilifeform: https://github.com/hmlb/phpunit-vw <<
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21:48 BingoBoingo <thestringpuller> asciilifeform: https://github.com/hmlb/phpunit-vw << NO thestringpuller. Better avanues for diddling exist
21:48 assbot hmlb/phpunit-vw · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1j67cbs )
21:49 * BingoBoingo proposes Illinois emissions test challenge. Illinois emissions test depends entirely on OBD-II output. Make a vehicle pass while plainly emitting clouds of soot.
21:52 mircea_popescu if anyone's sickly curious, here's a rather typical ro court proceeding : http://infodosar.ro/d.php?dosar=4089/105/2015&submit=Cauta
21:52 assbot InfoDosar 4089/105/2015 | Tribunalul Prahova ... ( http://bit.ly/1j67S0C )
21:53 BingoBoingo In other news I had a jury duty summons this week. Passed over every day. Today was told my service is complete.
21:53 mircea_popescu guy was trading pot, had 5 grams + ~1k$ confiscated, 2 years in prison for trading, 6 months for possession, suspended sentence.
21:53 mircea_popescu more interestingly, whole shebang's online.
21:54 BingoBoingo Fiatlandia is getting desperate. Making examples and skipping over "burn it all" weirdos.
21:54 thestringpuller 2 years for 5 grams? RO is lenient as fuck.
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21:54 mircea_popescu 2 years was for dealing.
21:55 mircea_popescu 6 months.
21:55 thestringpuller WID charge here is like 10 years min
21:55 mircea_popescu but anyway, first offense, so he serves no jail time. has to show up monthly to probation officer.
21:55 BingoBoingo <thestringpuller> 2 years for 5 grams? RO is lenient as fuck. << Illinois would plea that out
21:55 mircea_popescu romania does not admit plea bargains.
21:56 mircea_popescu in fact, romania disbars das if shown they tried to taint the trial, which is what plea bargain would be in sane places.
21:56 BingoBoingo Acquaintance who FUCKING ROBBED A BANK will prolly finish probation before I even get an evidentiary hearing
21:56 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that's the importance of massmarket for you. he did something that's mainstream
21:56 mircea_popescu not weird fucking offences that scarcely even exist.
21:56 BingoBoingo Sure his parole should be revoked for his latest incident of IDENTITY FUCKING THEFT, but
21:58 mircea_popescu can you even get pot in smaller chunks than 5 grams ?
21:58 mircea_popescu sixth of a fucking ounce ?
21:58 BingoBoingo Anyways aparently in the USistan no matter where you are, if your parents ahve affairs with the right other people's parents...
21:59 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> sixth of a fucking ounce ? << yes
21:59 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> can you even get pot in smaller chunks than 5 grams ? << In a collegiate environment last I heard people traded pot in single grams if it did not smell of dogshit.
21:59 thestringpuller mircea_popescu: the high schoolers usually buy per joint cause they don't know any better
21:59 thestringpuller unless they are super rich kids and parents do drugs /w kids etc.
22:00 BingoBoingo Sure people preferred trading bigger.
22:00 BingoBoingo Trading smaller was a sure sign of a bust though.
22:00 thestringpuller ANything over an ounce here (Georgia) is a felony.
22:01 BingoBoingo Trying to force small trades was how people politely let everyone else know they were compelled to turn state's witness
22:02 thestringpuller ^- Or the sign of a d00d just trying to smoke for free.
22:04 thestringpuller BingoBoingo: I thought bank robbery was an instafelony too. How does one get probation fro that? Returned the money?
22:05 BingoBoingo thestringpuller: He was/is a white hamplanet with an enabling family.
22:11 * BingoBoingo remembers this time back in undergrad at McKendree where in his freshman year this M named chick got busted for peddling weed to this Jim Chronister motherfucker (actual name because informants suck). Turn out Jim Chronister made a deal with the local 5-0. People assumed on campus I smoked weed so he tried to buy from me. Given his reputation I sold Jim the finest handrolled cigarettes filled with great Turkish rolling tobac
22:12 BingoBoingo Jimmy boy was pissed, but then I informed him the "weed" in his spliffs was literal shit.
22:12 BingoBoingo Jimmy boy was really pissed.
22:13 phf selling jenkem i see, that's 5 to 10
22:13 BingoBoingo Big Negro Savior though came out from the bushes an grabbed Jimmy when he popped me in the Jaw. Jimmy was missing the rest of the semester. Apparently he transfered.
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22:15 BingoBoingo Moral of the story, On 'Murican campuses if at all possible you make friends with the foozball team.
22:16 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293448 << here i must disappoint BingoBoingo. iirc the mechanism was changed, cardinally, in 0.7 and up. any work concerning leakage, involving these ancient abominations is inapplicable to therealbitcoin.
22:16 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 01:37:25; BingoBoingo: phf: Pls take it. I've been waiting to fuck something of this sort on my 0.7-ish tree.
22:17 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293449 << we actually have a 'type 1' problem here. i already found the leak. (it consists, roughly, of the vessel having no bottom to speak of!)
22:17 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 01:38:05; mircea_popescu: and in general, two types of problems. 1. "build me a bridge" ; 2. "find me the leak". 1 is blocking, but 2 isn't - if a baby goat finds the leak the leak's just as found as if jesus had found it.
22:17 asciilifeform what remains is to build the vessel a bottom...
22:17 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: As far as I know parts were changed, but I suck at CplusCock+ so I have to assume improvements would be open to trial.
22:17 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the particular moving part in question was replaced by something unlike.
22:19 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293467 << wat
22:19 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 01:46:45; thestringpuller: asciilifeform: https://github.com/hmlb/phpunit-vw <<
22:19 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Many things patched in 0.5.4 candidate were patched by unlike yet have adaptable fixes. Waiting on that plug to be patched before publishing next 0.7.x bastardo codebase
22:19 * asciilifeform is innocent of php. and of unit tests..
22:20 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: there is a reason i gave up on backports. but i suppose you will discover it by yourself.
22:20 * BingoBoingo ignorant of machine. Only understands patches by forcing them on to wildly differing codebases like 0.7-ish
22:20 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Backports suck.
22:20 BingoBoingo Honestly I like the work
22:20 funkenstein_ http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293477 <-- i know of no better example of worldwide bowing to empire than adoption of dupont's great solution to the "hemp problem"
22:20 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 01:54:45; thestringpuller: 2 years for 5 grams? RO is lenient as fuck.
22:20 asciilifeform yes, but it is not clear to me, from here, what BingoBoingo thinks he is learning from 0.7...
22:20 BingoBoingo The orphanage twins were great exercise
22:21 phf asciilifeform: your original analysis was that std::array (or was it boost) failed to release memory when prompted. seems like can either figure out how to prompt it harder, or substitute a structure. my other guess is that refs to same transactions are kept elsewhere, so are not actually release on clear, i haven't investigated that option yet though.
22:21 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: C-ish language is being learned, I think. If not that surely something else
22:21 asciilifeform funkenstein_: which is why i say to mircea_popescu, 'usg is dead when you can tell me what country to visit where cocaine is sold next to soap for a penny a pound'
22:22 asciilifeform phf: substantially trickier
22:22 funkenstein_ booyeah I like that
22:22 asciilifeform phf: i can force it just fine. this leads to immediate segfault because all kinds of structures continue to refer to the tx.
22:22 phf asciilifeform: right
22:22 asciilifeform you will end up substituting virtually everything. which is what the phoundation folks did.
22:23 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: 0.7-ish codebase radically different from 0.5-ish. It isn't until 0.8's pretend BDB abandonment that things get alien
22:23 mircea_popescu asciilifeform srsly, nobody sane sells drugs.
22:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nobody sane sells soda pop either
22:23 asciilifeform it is a barometer.
22:23 asciilifeform i do not actually ~need the dope personally~
22:23 asciilifeform it's just this device that tells me that usg is still alive and strong.
22:24 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> thestringpuller: He was/is a white hamplanet with an enabling family. <<< what the fuck, hamplanet robbery ?
22:24 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> it's just this device that tells me that usg is still alive and strong. << USSRia hates Drugs too
22:24 mircea_popescu what was his getaway car, the arianne ?
22:24 phf asciilifeform: so you're saying a rewrite of the whole chunk is required? also do you think a careful inventory of references with cleanup of corresponding tree a doable approach?
22:25 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> what was his getaway car, the arianne ? << Chrysler PT Cruiser his girlfriend owned (yes owned, evidence)
22:25 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: today. largely because dope (and the only dope that ever really caught on in su was meth & heroin) is seen as a popcontrol weapon of the west
22:25 asciilifeform phf: a rewrite of the whole thing is required. and was, from day 1. and this is where we get to the boojum - apparently nobody wants this.
22:25 mircea_popescu asciilifeform i wouldn't sell cocaine either, at any rate not differently freom how it's done now, at which point you'd saysomething liek "mp is nao usg" and i'd hit you in the head with a six kg single crystal metaphetamine hammer.
22:25 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> <BingoBoingo> thestringpuller: He was/is a white hamplanet with an enabling family. <<< what the fuck, hamplanet robbery ? (We joked before he ran away to Chicago that he robbed the bank with a sandwich, but no. Small town bank with limited highways)
22:25 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'not sell' != 'shoot people for selling'
22:26 mircea_popescu depends on the people.
22:26 mircea_popescu as always with th eshooting.
22:26 asciilifeform 'shoot people for being asshats' is one thing
22:26 mircea_popescu some people i'd shoot for crossing the street.
22:26 asciilifeform 'war on substances' - other
22:26 asciilifeform aha!
22:26 asciilifeform 'where they cut off your lips if they don't like your smile....!' (tm) (r) (disney)
22:26 * BingoBoingo has always like weirdo idea of selling cocaine chewing gum
22:27 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: as i understand, coca is own chewing gum..
22:27 trinque I don't really see much difference between that one and caffeine
22:27 funkenstein_ you can get benzocaine gum, basically the same thing
22:27 asciilifeform ick
22:27 mircea_popescu cocaine is supposed to be this rite of passage for the more fit teenaged girl,
22:27 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: But that is leaf amenable to further processing. Best lock the active into another wax for the posturing.
22:27 mircea_popescu elope, snort, do other things of the sort.
22:27 trinque it's quite popular in pdx
22:28 phf i heard it's a hell of a drug
22:29 asciilifeform thing is, dope in usg (and 'international treaties' as they presently exist are ~pure~ usgtronics) is not about dope, but about empire. if tomorrow no one wanted to snort coke, something else (can you say warez?) takes its place as excuse to feed standing army of stormtroopers
22:29 BingoBoingo Cocaine's great hazard is not in itself. It is in people feel cheated, violence cycle.
22:29 funkenstein_ might be compared to the debeers empire as well
22:29 mircea_popescu asciilifeform iirc you wanted ppl to check and confirm.
22:30 trinque I think the addictive aspects of cocaine vary wildly person to person
22:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes
22:30 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ fwiw, pot was A LOT more illegal in romania back when it was an "unalligned nation"
22:30 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: as a start
22:31 mircea_popescu also pot is not quite hemp.
22:31 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: who smoked pot when ro was 'unaligned' ?
22:31 funkenstein_ was this before the dupont campaign?
22:31 asciilifeform it is hemp in approximately the same sense that a chihuahua is a wolf
22:32 mircea_popescu asciilifeform srsly, dope conventionslong predate usg.
22:33 mircea_popescu trinque cocaine is not addictive.
22:33 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sure. usg did not build on empty space
22:33 trinque mircea_popescu: doesn't seem to me that it is
22:33 trinque always wondered wtf people meant in re: that
22:33 asciilifeform but the uniform prohibition on every conceivable thing that diddles neurons, ~is~ an organized usgism
22:33 funkenstein_ stuff goes for a few bucks a gram in colombia ascii.. and considered standard fare for teenage kids by conservative parents
22:33 mircea_popescu <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: who smoked pot when ro was 'unaligned' ? << literally nobody. cops had no fucking idea what it smelled like, even. i don't mean "some". i mean you couldn't find a beat cop that did.
22:34 asciilifeform so banned because 'wtf, deviant'
22:34 mircea_popescu <funkenstein_> was this before the dupont campaign? << specific sino-soviet relations point. 70s.
22:35 funkenstein_ The "jack herer" street story is that dupont orchestrated worldwide ban on hemp to pursue synthetic fiber business
22:35 mircea_popescu no, banned because it negatively affects school performance.
22:35 mircea_popescu which it does, and which romania is still in a position to very acutely measure.
22:36 phf trinque: "psychological addiction" i.e. combination of poor impulse control and boredom, that turns into compulsive behavior
22:36 funkenstein_ meanwhile other parties pursued a ban on colombian exports and secured the borders as well as supply lines
22:36 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> it is hemp in approximately the same sense that a chihuahua is a wolf << /me thinks great eventual colonization project would be Coyogi's
22:36 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> trinque cocaine is not addictive. << Not even as much as nicotine
22:36 mircea_popescu phf sure. like, you know, vidya.
22:37 trinque BingoBoingo: and hell I quit cigs
22:37 phf completely
22:37 mircea_popescu online pron. political discussions. you name it
22:37 trinque I know a few chicks that have the cocaine "addiction" and they just strike me as weak
22:37 trinque phf: yep
22:37 BingoBoingo <phf> trinque: "psychological addiction" i.e. combination of poor impulse control and boredom, that turns into compulsive behavior << This creates Hamplanets. Exact same feedback loop, but subb McDick's
22:37 mircea_popescu all the "cocaine addicted" chicks i ever knew were in it principally for the cock.
22:38 phf oy true, it's good to have some with you at a stripclub
22:38 mircea_popescu secondarily for the shoes and etc. people who can afford a bowl can usually afford whatever else teen might think she wants.
22:38 BingoBoingo <trinque> BingoBoingo: and hell I quit cigs << My vague memories of cocain are it feeling good, but not "getting a blowjob" good. Basically a wash
22:38 mircea_popescu it does serve the role of honest signal exceedingly well.
22:40 BingoBoingo <funkenstein_> The "jack herer" street story is that dupont orchestrated worldwide ban on hemp to pursue synthetic fiber business << ANd G-13 story involves MK-Ultra
22:42 funkenstein_ BingoBoingo, well I'm not sure about that but "scholars argue that the goal was to destroy the hemp industry largely as an effort of Hearst, Andrew Mellon and the Du Pont family."
22:43 * BingoBoingo doubts lizards exist because more drugs would allow more potential lizards to be disqualified from their scales
22:43 * trinque sheds a single tear for the supreme weed of the pacnw
22:43 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ and dja believe that ?
22:43 BingoBoingo funkenstein_: Seriously what the fuck is Dupont compared to Monsanto
22:43 funkenstein_ I have seen reason to believe it yes
22:44 funkenstein_ show me, next to the soap, industrial hemp
22:44 mircea_popescu how come the hemp industry didn't band together to destroy rayon ?
22:44 funkenstein_ you weren't there to lead them
22:44 mircea_popescu i wasn't there to lead the other idiots either.
22:44 funkenstein_ somebody pays of a sycophantic congressional body. happens all the time.
22:44 mircea_popescu seems, from a purely theoretical perspective, that if the orcs beat the humans, it's likely the humans sucked in some respect.
22:45 funkenstein_ well yeah, i'm not saying hemp businessmen did a great job
22:45 mircea_popescu sure pays off happens. but why did the inferior side prevail ? didn't the better industry have more money ?
22:45 BingoBoingo In other news Gawker Media can't feed their writers without coupons from people the "Oh,So Hate"
22:45 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/tpi4a
22:45 assbot A Southern-Fried Sleepover at New York’s First Chick-Fil-A, Or How I Won a Year’s Supply of Chicken ... ( http://bit.ly/1FW2t6L )
22:45 BingoBoingo <funkenstein_> show me, next to the soap, industrial hemp << Soy
22:45 funkenstein_ the industry with ties to fiat, not the better one, won at that time
22:45 trinque weed and other drugs were much more likely banned because the people (in the US, probably elsewhere) were ignorant and equated altered mental states with tha debil
22:45 trinque and if somebody took advantage of that, sure
22:46 funkenstein_ trinque i doubt it. nobody really cares if some people go mess up their minds
22:46 funkenstein_ look at tv for example or alcohol
22:46 trinque 1950s american culture was entirely opposed to weird of all kinds
22:47 BingoBoingo Soy won in the US because it actually grows like a weed and it estrogens bind to its proteins emasculating a dependant hog population at the expense of making them... Hammy and Planety
22:47 BingoBoingo Even Ayn Rand ranted about the evils of soy
22:48 trinque maybe she should've tried eating some to feminize herself a bit more
22:48 trinque that face...
22:49 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ how did hemp not have ties ?
22:49 mircea_popescu shit, half the fucking thing was making ties.
22:49 funkenstein_ good question! it did back in the day.
22:49 mircea_popescu for that matter, ropemaking was THE FIRST industrial process. everywhere.
22:49 mircea_popescu read up on it sometime, it's quite fascinating.
22:49 funkenstein_ Jefferson I think thought it would lead the usa to greatness
22:50 mircea_popescu rope factory, first factory, harbringer of industry. so it was.
22:50 BingoBoingo funkenstein_: Maybe get a time machine and kill Hamilton?
22:50 funkenstein_ but facing guys with guns and infinite bankroll, the stuff went to hide for a while
22:50 mircea_popescu trinque the notion that devil ~= altered mental state is older than africa really. it's an universally recognised human truth.
22:50 funkenstein_ don't worry it'll still be around when we figure our shit out :)
22:50 mircea_popescu ie, false, but false like a myth.
22:51 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah, the soy because estrogens thing has a much better conspiraci score than the dupont hemp thing.
22:52 mircea_popescu funkenstein_ the problem you face is explaining why the guys with the lesser bankroll won.
22:52 trinque mircea_popescu: if one's considering rules for the masses, probably better to keep a lid on the stuff
22:52 funkenstein_ wait, Hearst, Mellon, and DuPont had the lesser bankroll?
22:52 mircea_popescu yes.
22:52 trinque thouch certain psychedelics would make an excellent filter
22:53 mircea_popescu if it was the lesser industry, it had the lesser bankroll.
22:53 funkenstein_ could be, I really don't know
22:53 mircea_popescu this is what lesser means.
22:53 BingoBoingo http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RmTnBubD--/1460904957532672291.jpg
22:53 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MdCeW4 )
22:54 BingoBoingo <funkenstein_> wait, Hearst, Mellon, and DuPont had the lesser bankroll? << Won on promisatory notes, not completely paid to this day
22:54 mircea_popescu moreover... i seem to recall some bigshot names trying and miserably failing to corner the silver market.
22:54 mircea_popescu so much so high street jewelers were taking full page ads lambasting the hoarding.
22:55 mircea_popescu that DIDNT work out.
22:55 mircea_popescu ie, the better industry won that time. obviously you can throw some away because "variance'
22:55 mircea_popescu but still.
22:55 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> so much so high street jewelers were taking full page ads lambasting the hoarding. << ONly happened how many times in actual BTC governance?
22:56 mircea_popescu eh, they can count it later.
22:56 mircea_popescu in other news, do you know where your girlfriend is ? http://40.media.tumblr.com/62d6ff1af0a27d669fb1ee40459a3b37/tumblr_nox7k8dSJw1uo56n1o1_1280.jpg
22:56 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FW3zPY )
22:57 BingoBoingo More pronounced widow's peak and smaller tits, then I might confuse that for a girl I liked in High School
22:58 gabriel_laddel I love how *everyone* either missed or ignored where ascii was taking the "cocaine sales practice as a measure of USG power, whatever its form" thread.
22:59 gabriel_laddel which is to say !s anything made for $20k or so
22:59 gabriel_laddel ...
22:59 gabriel_laddel http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-09-2015#1283115
22:59 assbot Logged on 23-09-2015 02:04:53; asciilifeform: with no bureaucratic obstacles in the way (Officially not intended to be fed to human) - can get ANYTHING made for $20K or so, in Kg+ qty.
23:01 BingoBoingo <gabriel_laddel> which is to say !s anything made for $20k or so << I dare you to deliver to me a Compact pickup truck in the United States less than 3 years old. The problems are known.
23:02 gabriel_laddel Pardon?
23:02 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: context was a thread re: organic chem
23:02 asciilifeform and the price of pharma
23:03 BingoBoingo Ah, THought a more general price of anything.
23:05 BingoBoingo I reverted to considering the "chicken tax" where a foreign made Ford Ranger of year old vintage would cost more to sell in USIA than an F-250 Super Duty with the OMGWTFBBQKINGRANCHDRESSING package, because arbitrarity.
23:07 gabriel_laddel I wish the black market folk would get their shit together, start buying spectroscopy equipment and setup "trap houses" where you can go verify the pharma you buy is what you think you're buying.
23:07 gabriel_laddel and by pharma, I don't mean dope
23:08 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: and when you get sc4mz0r3d, take wrong pill, croak, does your ghost negrate the test house ?
23:08 mircea_popescu so can i have polymerizable water ? or is this "anything" limited by other criteria than "what you can describe" ?
23:08 asciilifeform or how does it work
23:08 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: thread was about commercial organic chem
23:08 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> so can i have polymerizable water ? or is this "anything" limited by other criteria than "what you can describe" ? << Violently
23:08 mircea_popescu you realise i can declare a compound of arbitrary complexity right ?
23:08 BingoBoingo !up bitcoinbrains_
23:08 mircea_popescu organic chemistry, unlike $20k, is not finite.
23:09 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> you realise i can declare a compound of arbitrary complexity right ? << Declare, yes. Not blow yourself up with, no.
23:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i suppose i ought to clarify where i learned the figure and how.
23:09 mircea_popescu so what sort of alf's Hilbert Hotel is this.
23:09 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: that problem reduces to "why doesn't MP run of with MPEX funds"
23:09 gabriel_laddel the current issue is the people involved with the black market
23:09 gabriel_laddel they suck
23:09 BingoBoingo <gabriel_laddel> asciilifeform: that problem reduces to "why doesn't MP run of with MPEX funds" << Not at all
23:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: we had a db from u.s. national cancer institute of a few million plausibly-synthesizable compounds, largely of unknown effect (never organizedly fed to any living thing)
23:10 mircea_popescu aha.
23:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ran models, churning through astonishing qty of cpu cycle, and sent off db entries to orc lands for synthesis
23:10 mircea_popescu no, i know the thing, and ftr a number like that has been thrown around pretty much ever since the major synth advances of the 80s
23:10 asciilifeform they would come back in crated vials.
23:10 asciilifeform which would then be tested on cell culture; followed by rodents
23:11 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0004932 = 4.8334 BTC [+]
23:11 asciilifeform (and the occasional lab gurl with holes in gloves...)
23:11 gabriel_laddel lol
23:11 asciilifeform !s glove girl
23:11 assbot 0 results for 'glove girl' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=glove+girl
23:11 asciilifeform hm
23:11 mircea_popescu did you mean love irl ?
23:11 asciilifeform bawat
23:11 mircea_popescu g-love g-irl!
23:12 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-11-2013#378367 << thread.
23:12 assbot Logged on 13-11-2013 14:21:38; asciilifeform: lab girl had round-the-clock headaches for six months. went to every conceivable doctor, brain scans, the whole shebang.
23:14 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: at any rate, 'plausible synthesis' has a rough meaning. ask PeterL perhaps to explain in detail. but yes, synthetic vitamin B was a nobel. beyond a certain point of complexity, one tries to harness living things to crap out the goods
23:14 asciilifeform rather than ab initio
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23:14 phf hah, i know some people working on that nci db of plausible compounds, part of the whole potomac russian jews community
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23:14 gabriel_laddel A tangentially related lol: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2014#922449
23:14 assbot Logged on 14-11-2014 23:13:51; asciilifeform: she demanded to be 'let alone with it'
23:15 asciilifeform wai wut
23:15 asciilifeform related how
23:15 gabriel_laddel girls in labs
23:15 asciilifeform plenty of folks have tales involving these
23:16 gabriel_laddel speaking of which, do you know how Al burned off "half his skin"?
23:16 asciilifeform most of them end in 'and she went to med school'
23:16 asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: he explained it to me, yes
23:16 gabriel_laddel http://www.humournet.com/misc.humour/hooked_on_diff_eqs.txt
23:16 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MdDMiZ )
23:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73881 @ 0.00048865 = 36.102 BTC [-] {4}
23:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73244 @ 0.00048489 = 35.5153 BTC [-] {2}
23:19 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-10-2015#1293507 << BingoBoingo really must show up to next conf. because i picture him as a character straight from mark twain
23:19 assbot Logged on 07-10-2015 02:13:54; BingoBoingo: Big Negro Savior though came out from the bushes an grabbed Jimmy when he popped me in the Jaw. Jimmy was missing the rest of the semester. Apparently he transfered.
23:20 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I am not particularly impressive in the flesh. I am a super featherweight trapped in a super welterweight's 5'7" body
23:20 asciilifeform not in this sense
23:21 BingoBoingo Ah
23:21 BingoBoingo Culturally then
23:21 asciilifeform aha
23:21 funkenstein_ gabriel_laddel, hooked on diff-eq-ics! great stuff.
23:22 BingoBoingo Because as I keep trying to tell trinque Missouri is far more texas than Texas is
23:22 trinque I dun believe
23:22 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: and this is something like the size & shape of avg. american folk from twain's time, even.
23:22 BingoBoingo And far southern Illinois is more Ozark than Missouri
23:22 trinque the apartment I just looked into, my dick ripped my pants
23:22 trinque and that wasn't even because of the beautiful women living there
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23:23 asciilifeform but they also had elektron microscope ?
23:23 asciilifeform with vaginal controls ?
23:23 asciilifeform or what
23:23 BingoBoingo trinque: I am trying to become sufficiently unpoor to get a 20-15 year old compact pickup. I filed that into the long term goal category.
23:23 funkenstein_ for those interested in number puzzles, this "sloane's gap" one is to me a real puzzler
23:24 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: wouldn't that be a collectible and costly rarity ?
23:24 gabriel_laddel trinque: settling in nicely?
23:24 trinque asciilifeform: I'm sure some do at work
23:24 trinque gabriel_laddel: I am, staying with family while I evaluate where to live
23:24 asciilifeform so what did trinque see
23:25 gabriel_laddel my guess: price-point
23:25 trinque http://www.onelakesedge.com/
23:25 assbot One Lakes Edge | The Woodlands, TX Apartments ... ( http://bit.ly/1MdEuN5 )
23:25 trinque about 1550-1800 for a really nice place for a single guy
23:25 asciilifeform but it's a flat
23:26 asciilifeform where you gonna put the lathe
23:26 trinque hang out there for a couple years then I'm buying a house
23:26 trinque or wherever, haven't decided yet
23:27 asciilifeform imho 'posh flat' is really 'worst of both worlds' - but that's just me.
23:28 trinque most of my work involves the device in my lap currently, don't need tons of space
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23:28 asciilifeform then anything bigger than a lift cabin is burned $
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23:30 trinque might as well eat solely based on caloric needs too eh?
23:30 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: wouldn't that be a collectible and costly rarity ? << They are. But also fuel efficent.
23:31 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: have you ever thought about taking a cruise down to SA?
23:31 BingoBoingo gabriel_laddel: Walk, yes. Cruise, too much for budget given constraints.
23:31 asciilifeform will need pontoons, on that truck..
23:32 * asciilifeform will point out that airplane ticket costs less than any truck outside of a scrapyard
23:32 asciilifeform mordor-ba
23:32 gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: ah, but notice BingoBoingo's problem isn't the cash for the ticket
23:32 asciilifeform aha
23:32 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> will need pontoons, on that truck.. << Or truck with Darien capable history.
23:33 BingoBoingo * asciilifeform will point out that airplane ticket costs less than any truck outside of a scrapyard << Scrapyard frequently has servicable trucks for travel
23:33 phf apartment living goes well with other outsourced infrastructure, i.e. ghetto warehouse for your lathe-placement-needs. you can do it on the cheap by pulling resources at a hackerspace
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23:34 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: yea, but I thought you were scared of the gangs?
23:34 BingoBoingo <trinque> might as well eat solely based on caloric needs too eh? << In Murica dangerous not to
23:34 asciilifeform phf: i tried the 'hackerspace' thing, at its best it was an ick
23:34 BingoBoingo <gabriel_laddel> BingoBoingo: yea, but I thought you were scared of the gangs? << Not just any old gangs, specific kinds
23:34 trinque the puritanical thing and the soviet thing are so similar
23:35 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: right. So sail around.
23:35 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: and write a Qntra article about walking off the reserve.
23:35 BingoBoingo gabriel_laddel: I drink too much to boat and sail sleeping
23:36 gabriel_laddel oh my fuck you're missing my point.
23:36 * trinque wonders who doesn't drink boating
23:36 BingoBoingo what point
23:36 BingoBoingo ?
23:36 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: https://www.google.com/maps/@8.155203,-77.6980472,15579m/data=!3m1!1e3 << astonishingly abysmal res
23:36 assbot Google Maps ... ( http://bit.ly/1jcnccw )
23:37 trinque I thought the point was to go fast ripped
23:39 BingoBoingo So, lets address some points about my current situation: 1) Hai FBI I noticed your Negro in the Lexus driving the street in front of my house three times today that I will admit to catching.
23:40 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: take pics of that?
23:41 BingoBoingo gabriel_laddel: No, just scowled.
23:41 gabriel_laddel aww
23:41 BingoBoingo Derping to take a picture doesn't look tough.
23:41 gabriel_laddel Facial recognition goes both ways. I could use pics.
23:42 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: anyways, let me spell this out for you - it'd be really cool to take a cuise down to BA, get coffee with MP and cruise back right?
23:42 gabriel_laddel it would also be cool to fly in and do the same, but you can't b/c the court
23:42 BingoBoingo <gabriel_laddel> Facial recognition goes both ways. I could use pics. << Doesn't need to go far. My street has no black residents. My street is a blind loop. One pass could be a common criminal. Multiple people is Law Enforcement.
23:43 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: The pics would be for our intel systems dude
23:43 BingoBoingo Cruise is expensive, you pay transit + living expenses for duration. BTC is too underpriced for that
23:43 asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what'd be the point?
23:43 asciilifeform i mean, say 241st tank regiment rolls down your street every morning
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23:43 asciilifeform what's it to you.
23:43 BingoBoingo <gabriel_laddel> BingoBoingo: The pics would be for our intel systems dude << You don't need an image to recognize broke ass USG Denzel Washington wannabe
23:44 gabriel_laddel ...
23:44 gabriel_laddel COMPUTERS DUDE
23:44 trinque !b 3
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23:45 asciilifeform i mean, it is one thing if they break the door with demolition charges, drag you out in your nighties, and take you to 'the farm' where you can sit in the coke machine and cough out private key bits for 20 yrs.
23:45 asciilifeform but driving menacingly past your house ?
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23:45 asciilifeform why bother ?
23:45 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> what's it to you. << My street is tar and macadam, that would tear it up. Literally one input goes to the county fairgrounds racetrack pit and my street. The other goes to my street.
23:45 trinque this is where gossipd deniable statement mode would be great
23:45 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> why bother ? << Because they know black people don't live hear, and they want me to call local PD because they anticipate racism.
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23:46 gabriel_laddel trinque: why?
23:46 asciilifeform fwiw i routinely have 3-4 white vans parked outside. snore.
23:46 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> but driving menacingly past your house ? << Why does local probationary cop live in the Murder duplex across from my present residence? either ignorance or malice
23:46 asciilifeform wat's a murder-duplex
23:46 asciilifeform ?
23:47 * asciilifeform unfamiliar with term
23:47 trinque gabriel_laddel: cause maybe he doesn't want to say what got them interested
23:47 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> wat's a murder-duplex << In 2005 wife doused her husband in kerosene and lit a match. Now walking free because only manslaughter
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23:48 phf asciilifeform: i think main use case for a hackerspace is place to deploy own oversized equipment, but have the location subsidized by "makers". most i've been to would go through the typical list of "3d printers", eventually followed by "and here's a cnc laser cutter etc. that you can only use if you ask such and such nicely and make he'll let you under his supervision"
23:48 gabriel_laddel trinque: unless I'm greatly mistaken, he has a court case for something or other physical and US dept of treasury agents have dropped by his house b/c btc.
23:48 asciilifeform phf: aha, we had this.
23:48 asciilifeform phf: everything was either entirely dead or half-worked
23:48 BingoBoingo Everyone working public safety professions in town knows that happened there. Yet cop is cheap enough to rent there?
23:48 asciilifeform was in decrepit ancient church, even
23:48 gabriel_laddel trinque: I have a photo of the agent's card, actually
23:49 phf oh, right hacdc
23:49 asciilifeform aha
23:49 asciilifeform it is still there. i haven't visited in years.
23:49 asciilifeform last i heard, they were doing balloons
23:49 asciilifeform (of the stratospheric variety)
23:49 phf last i was there the big project was public wifi for the neighborhood
23:50 BingoBoingo <gabriel_laddel> trinque: unless I'm greatly mistaken, he has a court case for something or other physical and US dept of treasury agents have dropped by his house b/c btc. << I have disorderly conduct misdemeanor pending in neighboring county. Fed visit is on pre-qntra blawg
23:50 asciilifeform i almost envy BingoBoingo - not even missionaries come to my house any longer.
23:50 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: anyways, you should really take a cruise
23:50 gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: and photos of that agent
23:50 gabriel_laddel post em here
23:50 * BingoBoingo hates boats unless bass fishing
23:50 phf i'm moving to dc again, so will pay them a visit
23:51 BingoBoingo <gabriel_laddel> BingoBoingo: and photos of that agent << The Treasury department's agent's name was Broachwala or some shit. Dot Indian. FBI refused to leave card, but ginger presumably Irish asshole/
23:52 * trinque pours out a little beer for BingoBoingo's troubles... into his mouth.
23:52 BingoBoingo Both came out of the fucking Peoria field office, like fuck. St Louis is right fucking there.
23:54 * BingoBoingo feels this persecution makes qntra perfect match for my anger
23:55 * BingoBoingo also seriously though FBI office in Peoria was just there for the occasional drug bust and making sure the Israelies don't manage to steal all of Catepilar's tractors in one go
23:57 BingoBoingo <asciilifeform> i almost envy BingoBoingo - not even missionaries come to my house any longer. << Jehova's witnesses come here still, but known local.
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