#trilema | 2015-07-21

Logged on 21-07-2015 02:39:11; decimation: asciilifeform: what is the sha256sum of your blk0009.dat?

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208265 << afaik they were never once sold as discrete items

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Logged on 21-07-2015 02:54:24; decimation: asciilifeform: can you even buy müller gates?

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(i.e. there is not a 74xxxx containing six of'em)

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208263 << whaddayamean how

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Logged on 21-07-2015 02:47:26; decimation: asciilifeform: how did you attach your serial cables?

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with battery-powered soldering iron, on balcony

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208270 << pretty plz post the input that brought about its death ??

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Logged on 21-07-2015 03:17:50; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207730 << i copied a few blk files over to my gentoo laptop and tried blkcut and it just failed instantly so I figured I did something wrong

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as in, something i could gdb through

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the blk file?

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aha

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if you know which.

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i tried a bunch, nothing worked

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nothing worked in the sense that it crashed every time ?

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yeah I never have seen it work

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plz upload just one then

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somewhere.

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can be the ml

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yeah obviously soldered, did you find pads broken out somewhere?

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or wherever else is convenient.

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decimation: i mentioned earlier, in logs, they are under the sticker

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clearly labeled 'tx' 'rx' 'gnd'

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lol must have missed that

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each is around the size of a printed full stop

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so use a reasonably young iron tip

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heh yeah plus steady hand

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is it a 'spi' or 'rs-232 low voltage' bus?

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it's weird how divergence seems to happen in blk0009.dat - deserves further investigation with block dumper

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rs232 but ttl voltage

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same as pogo

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115200 baud.

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also same as pogo.

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yeah, seems pretty stanard in industry

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no part of any of this is in any way astonishing.

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presently wondering whether the '256M' of ram was a lie, and if so, how the thing ended up with 150

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that ain't a 150 die on the pcb - no such animal

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welp i'm retarded; file permissions was the problem

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l0l

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figured that out in trying to host the damn file

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<+asciilifeform> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt << nice!

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... ( http://bit.ly/1GxIWCW )

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danielpbarron watches blk0001 get shredded

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^ to be clear, that is the stock (manufacturer's) fw

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oh l0l, the 256M turns into 150 on account of the framebuffer

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duh

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24M for the fb proper, but another 60 (!) for accelerator, something called 'ion'

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Extracting block #188528 in archive blk0001.dat : 244995 bytes << blk0001.dat ends here

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as for what the fuck 'ipp buf' is, and why it eats 16 precious MB, science is silent !

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nobody seems to know

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danielpbarron: iirc this is correct

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yay

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this is from my 0.5.3.1-beta on pogo

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'ipp' appears to be yet another graphicsism

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in yet other nyooz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/07/blog-post.html

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ClubOrlov: 书名：假如美国不在了：无美国世界的生存新秩序 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxJwAA )

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Extracting block #3366 in archive blk0019.dat : 999986 bytes

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danielpbarron: if you've the time, hash and deedbot your blocks

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aight

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(i don't presently have mine on hand in cut-up form)

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which hash is prefered? 256 or 512?

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512

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(as general principle)

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ipp = intel performance primatives? makes no sense

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no

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it belongs to the gpu in the 'rockchip'

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(the soc that runs the thing)

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actually it's quite impressive they have stuffed this much capability into humble stick

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asciilifeform: there's probably no hope of resurrecting the original distro source?

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incidentally, is anyone else perplexed by the 'mali' gpu? recall mircea_popescu's piece were he picks it as the archetypical pissant country, not even interestingly infamous the way, e.g., zimbabwe or north kr are

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decimation: it's a cut-down 'android'

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certifiably worthless

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and what little space there is, is occupied by crud

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it Must Die (tm)

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mali kinda became famous with the wondering muslimtude

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(to be replaced with a civilized 'buildroot', naturally)

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might as well turn off framebuffer, can't spare 60meg

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supposing it can be turned off

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aye

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at any rate, it still wins ram-wise over pogo, with it on

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the intresting question is - are the the hardware doodads supported in vanilla kernel

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my current understanding is - 'sorta'

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one can get a picture going, yes.

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unfortunately 1001 flavors of 'android'

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hardware I mean

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fuck android

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full of closed-source shit

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the hw is a bog-standard cheapo arm

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it will go just as pogo went.

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there is an additional trick needed to get the usb chipset into host mode

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(while receiving power from the jack)

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can you measure current draw?

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for connecting drives, yes

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haven't formally measured, but it worked fine from an unpowered hub with a rat's nest of crud hanging off it

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probably less than a few hundred ma then

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so probably somewhere considerably south of 500ma

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(at no serious cpu load)

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interesting, would be useful as a 'internet of things' device

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gets pretty warm

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this thing is probably the most cpu per gram of whole machine, at least in my collection

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and almost cheap enough to drop from airplane.

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someone probably is

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le guardian http://i.imgur.com/7lrGIuC.jpg

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... ( http://bit.ly/1JdCk31 )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46767 @ 0.00055919 = 26.1516 BTC [-]

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asciilifeform: have you used a markup format for directed graphs?

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seems like 'dot' is the defacto standard

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decimation: can't say that i have

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cazalla: lol

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I wonder if that kernel boot line is some kind of device map? maybe allocating the gpu mem?

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and that alsa line is interesting - I wonder if that is to drive the audio on the hdmi port or if there is actual analog audio

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no analogue on this board

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at least, not brought out

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can you find the rom device? might be able to make it puke through serial port

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79100 @ 0.00058771 = 46.4879 BTC [+] {5}

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!v assbot:danielpbarron.rate.diana_coman.1:eda77f1600ad140a749e385a9f6eb53436d7c3487db0039bf0cf85840a907f25

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Successfully added a rating of 1 for diana_coman with note: fellow Eulorian; knows her way around a samovar

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decimation: in the log

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also the box is a seriously cut-down thing

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not even, e.g., 'cat' on it

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yeah gonna have to clear a beachhead

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or remote-mount usb stick

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no 'mount'

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it'll have to be put in 'recovery mode' and the whole turd overwritten with something reasonable.

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can download turds here it appears http://www.rockchipfirmware.com/firmware-downloads

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Firmware Downloads | Rockchip Firmware ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdDVWB )

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asciilifeform: I assume you saw this http://linux-rockchip.info/mw/index.php?title=Category:List_of_Rockchip_SoCs

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Category:List of Rockchip SoCs - Linux Rockchip ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9T9Xu )

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has link to specsheet

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;;isup qntra.net

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qntra.net is down

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00056682 = 10.6279 BTC [-]

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asciilifeform: according to datasheet, it has rtc? but it needs 32.678khz crystal (and power)

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http://www.tokuda.net/diary/adiary.cgi/0851

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NetBSD/evbarm on Radxa Rock USB編 - BSD小僧の日記 ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdEO1g )

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http://wiki.t-firefly.com/index.php/Firefly-RK3288/Build_kernel/en

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decimation to bed, hopefully interesting

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Snacky Cakes now ruining more livers than booze https://archive.is/PY1kW

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Study finds increase in unused transplant livers | Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1SyNbVX )

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https://archive.is/y8bS7

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Many Livers 'Too Fat' For Transplant | Medpage Today ... ( http://bit.ly/1SyNhwH )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30154 @ 0.00056011 = 16.8896 BTC [-] {2}

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Fuck it. I spent all of this time syncing with the CVS tree. I'm compiling this bitch.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25450 @ 0.00055919 = 14.2314 BTC [-] {2}

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;;isup openbsd.org

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openbsd.org is up

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wat

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cannot get to it from here

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and couldn't from another, distant IP

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guess it passed though

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trinque: up here

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00055919 = 4.4735 BTC [-]

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207408 << hack on production, automatic 100% keystroke deplyoment

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Logged on 20-07-2015 02:36:12; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, phf, Adlai, gabriel_laddel: still curious about deploying CL code to running instances

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also get chummy with http://l1sp.org/search?q=u-i-f eg https://github.com/adlai/scalpl/blob/master/util.lisp#L65-L72

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u-i-f - l1sp.org search ... ( http://bit.ly/1fiGZEL )

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scalpl/util.lisp at master · adlai/scalpl · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1fiGXwH )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00056682 = 7.9922 BTC [+]

~ 1 hours 5 minutes ~

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00055425 = 24.6918 BTC [-] {5}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00056682 = 3.2876 BTC [+]

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;;ticker

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Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 280.11, Best ask: 280.15, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 280.15, 24 hour volume: 10999.12117073, 24 hour low: 277.0, 24 hour high: 282.1, 24 hour vwap: None

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!up Guest58663

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 29.26357267 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 5 satoshi per share

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deedbot- http://dpaste.com/02MWWGK.txt

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... ( http://bit.ly/1LpJvXw )

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deedbot-

accepted: 1

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208225 << no. because everyone that starts an attempt gets spooked by the results.

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Logged on 21-07-2015 01:35:44; *: asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208235 << nope. and yes.

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Logged on 21-07-2015 01:56:22; *: asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208243 << coolness.

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Logged on 21-07-2015 02:09:06; mats: deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt

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so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out.

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;;later tell nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208447

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Logged on 21-07-2015 10:55:19; mircea_popescu: so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out.

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The operation succeeded.

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and hanbot and whoever else took an interest in this.

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"请买我的书" lmao

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users by lines, last 7 days 1.) assbot 1151 2.) mircea_popescu 1111 3.) asciilifeform 1087 << the closest it's been!

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208376 << top kek.

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Logged on 21-07-2015 04:47:34; cazalla: le guardian http://i.imgur.com/7lrGIuC.jpg

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"our culture"

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stupid bitch. she ain't no part of any culture.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00055808 = 8.7619 BTC [-]

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BingoBoingo took advantage of this Qntra downtime to update OpenBSD to 5.7 release and then compile/install 5.7 stable

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eh down again ?

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heh it was up a moment ago.

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Maybe it is just really slow again

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" Error 1000 Ray ID: 209672bca5fe260a 2015-07-21 11:08:29 UTC "

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"You've requested a page on a website (qntra.net) that is on the CloudFlare network. Unfortunately, it is resolving to an IP address that is creating a conflict within CloudFlare's system."

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aww.

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DNS points to prohibited IP

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doh.

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(i just switched it over. coinbase's

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apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare.

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and then im supposed to not suspect usg is out there ddosing everything.

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because hey, "that'd be just crazy"

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@ BingoBoingo you *still* getting attacked?

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only been a week or so ?

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well not counting the 20gbps oct spike and the 15gbps june spike o.O

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what do you mean STILL lmao.

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Yeah. Most of last week actually wasn't so bad, at least 8 hours of availability a day. This weekend though

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Hmmm....someone needs a hobby.

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lol like hot water.

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is there a non-fucktarded img host ?

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eh nm, wtf am i asking. for the internet to be useful, i must be from the past.

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http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/bw-qntra-year.png << there. THAT is independent journalism.

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... ( http://bit.ly/1LpOasw )

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And the BW usage has no correlation at all with the quantcast stats

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the spikes are both ddos.

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Of course, because the internet is retarded to the point "usage" numbers can't at all relate to the actual use of a thing by persons.

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what persons.

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Ones who read. USG department of internet says that no. Bandwidth usage must never correlate with actual readership. So packet inflation.

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neways. i'd much rather debug this than move, so your patience's appreciated.

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also if you have burning articles, i can arrange for it to be visible selectively so you can make archive prints

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Keep debugging. Thankfully nothing too burning is in queue at the moment.

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is qntra archived anywhere?

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actual IP>>> coinbase.com 107.21.102.138 UNITED STATES

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o.O

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this has all the makings of drama. lesee

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http://pastebin.com/mHExYJUX

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0/24 block search - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpRaoM )

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chetty

lmao right outside dc even

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Just another Amazon instance

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amazon instance -> cloudflare -> internet. all via PKI.

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YOUR PRIVACY IS IMPORTANT TO US. nom nom nom

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SO important that too < 10 minutes to find.

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so random schmuck today finds himself in the following situation : if he goes anywhere, taking uber, all his travel is in usg db.

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if he visits any website, both amazon and cloudflare have records, which can even be compared. how's that for ECC asciilifeform !

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obviously if he pays anyone anything that's tracked. and in his dumbass case, this includes bitcoin

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which he buys via amazon instance > cloudflare and he spends via amazon instance > cloudflare.

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chetty

given the latest revelations that stuss is almost at the noise level

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might as well use fucking visa rather than all this wastage.

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then when i say bitcoin is not for the poor, people are liek o noes.

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why waste all the fucking cycles to do visa poorly ?

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!b 8

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Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1TYZ1NS.txt )

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of course the proper node is "why should us resident derp have any money whatsoever", which obviously he shouldn't. disposable income belongs to the sort of people who think about the world, usian maggots really have no busienss holding any money whatsoever.

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and if he doesn, the end result is "supersized beverages" and "britney spears, best singer ever"

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My sides: https://np.reddit.com/r/BitMarket/comments/3dzcj9/wtsbitcoin_trade_bot_website_businessinabox_10_btc/

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[WTS]Bitcoin Trade Bot Website - Business-in-a-Box (10 BTC) : BitMarket ... ( http://bit.ly/1HNXCQj )

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http://ec2-107-21-102-138.compute-1.amazonaws.com/webalizer/

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Usage Statistics for web.suchdamage.org - Last 12 Months ... ( http://bit.ly/1HNZfgY )

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/icons/ lists directory contents, tsk tsk

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40524 @ 0.0005634 = 22.8312 BTC [+] {2}

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30176 @ 0.00056682 = 17.1044 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00056682 = 10.7696 BTC [+]

08:21

shinohai wassat ?

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A bunch of old shit i guess, i dunno. I was peeking about trying to find where they keep shit.

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lol

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http://trilema.com/2015/the-best-auction-ever/ << now with chatlog.

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The best auction. Ever. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HO3vwJ )

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too quick

08:37

lol something awful now running mostly psa ads

08:42

"Proprietary code decays and devteams of proprietary code decay even faster. Just look at Google."

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shit i love reading my old quotes.

~ 20 minutes ~

09:02

No Cloudflare or DNS for Best Korea https://www.northkoreatech.org/2015/07/06/a-peek-inside-north-koreas-intranet/

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A peek inside North Korea's intranet ... ( http://bit.ly/1IbaEXb )

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traded ma two SSDs in for pcie SSDs

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striped reads at 4GB/s with two 'SM951'

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nice mats

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hi

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oh look, courts circus finally getting resolved

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going on two years now :0

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and almost 27btc in the pot! will be interesting to see how it's sliced up

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say, i'm sure someone here would know: what's the smallest amount of btc i can send to each of ~6,000 addresses in a single tx and expect to get it relayed?

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depends on fee/age/etc

09:41

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15164 @ 0.00055438 = 8.4066 BTC [-]

09:47

http://thepointstraveler.com/an-introduction-to-the-basics-of-manufactured-spending/ < lol there's a big subculture devoted to ripping off idiotic marketing schemes (credit card points, etc)

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An Introduction to the Basics of Manufactured Spending - The Points Traveler ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiKCFA )

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http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072015a-smithsonian-kickstarter-armstrong-spacesuit.html < a new low for usg - begging for money on kickstarter

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Smithsonian launches Kickstarter to 'reboot' Neil Armstrong spacesuit display | collectSPACE ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiKHcd )

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" "The Smithsonian receives 70 percent of its appropriations from the federal government and that amount covers staff salaries, building support and maintenance, and not much more" said Lewis. "It has been a very long time since we have been able to use the appropriations for programming, exhibits and special projects.""

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^ usg should raise all its money this way, voluntary taxes: "Funding the $1e9 joint strike fighter: at the $1e7 level:recieve turd hand-polished to the same specifications as the canopy"

09:51

"Check out this clip from “CBS Saturday Morning” to see how the team digitizes everything from the Spirit of St. Louis to a sitting American president." < tele-dildonics?

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208406 << same as pogo. both - absent

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Logged on 21-07-2015 05:17:35; decimation: asciilifeform: according to datasheet, it has rtc? but it needs 32.678khz crystal (and power)

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pogo has inactive rtc?

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it does

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i explained many times.

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needs crystal and battery.

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(and, iirc, a few passives)

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yeah probably, not gonna happen for such a cheap board

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208443 << realize that if even one such chip is publicly available, this is trivial to test: put it in ln2, if it automagically runs faster, without any extra manipulations - it is clockless logic

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Logged on 21-07-2015 10:51:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208235 << nope. and yes.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208469 << 'good cop / bad cop' - what do you suppose the maxint porous routers and miscellaneous ddosatrons are for, if not for herding folks onto 'cloud' ?

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Logged on 21-07-2015 11:13:08; mircea_popescu: apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare.

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spam -> gmail; ddos -> cloudflare,aws ec2

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aha.

10:00

banditism -> cities

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(as described in 'the art of not being governed')

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yeah, see also mancur olson

10:01

!s yi yi zhi yi

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17 results for 'yi yi zhi yi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=yi+yi+zhi+yi

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208502 << no need to ride 'uber', just walk around carrying ipNohe

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Logged on 21-07-2015 11:40:52; mircea_popescu: so random schmuck today finds himself in the following situation : if he goes anywhere, taking uber, all his travel is in usg db.

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or any phone of any kind

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aha

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but true patriot (tm) carries iPnohe, cache the gps stream, save the crown the disk space

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or drive anywhere with a license plate

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or use a credit card to buy anything

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^ this one is even more interesting than commonly supposed: one needn't even be usg to access purchase records! they are, i learned, routinely subpoenaed in civil cases

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(e.g., divorce)

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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/chicago-regional-housing-section-eight/398798/ < "en the state of Illinois distributes low-income housing tax credits, which are essential for developers who want to build affordable housing without losing money, it favors projects that have Section 8 units, so these units are also more likely to get funded than, for example, affordable units in struggling neighborhoods with no ...

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Chicago's Regional Housing Initiative - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMjml )

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... Section 8 units. "

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asciilifeform: I think you can just buy them from visa, amex, etc

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208512 << mircea_popescu will be pleased to learn that this part of the program has been accomplished! i, for instance, have no idea what serious disposable money even smells like from a cannon's shot away !

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Logged on 21-07-2015 11:48:18; mircea_popescu: of course the proper node is "why should us resident derp have any money whatsoever", which obviously he shouldn't. disposable income belongs to the sort of people who think about the world, usian maggots really have no busienss holding any money whatsoever.

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if you are the right kind of person

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208513 << actually the result is automagically doubled rent/mortgage

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Logged on 21-07-2015 11:49:06; mircea_popescu: and if he doesn, the end result is "supersized beverages" and "britney spears, best singer ever"

10:07

Wences whacked, Xapo zapped. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/21/wences-whacked-xapo-zapped/

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decimation: i'm assuming you caught this week's episode of econtalk ? re ^^

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heh no I'm getting through my weekly dose of the french revolution

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burke ?

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speaking of which...

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http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/07/so-you-say-you-dont-want-revolution.html

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ClubOrlov: So you say you don't want a revolution? ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMDBn )

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looks like lulzy fun

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^ mega-article

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no this guy: http://www.revolutionspodcast.com/

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Revolutions ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMFt6 )

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^ orlov follows up on mircea_popescu's 'greeks must behead'

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decimation: ew, he only accepts paypal

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for donations

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L0L!

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oh you mean russ roberts?

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decimation: nah, revolutions guy

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i dun think russ does donations other than those from stanford directly

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yeah. the revolutions guy also did a 300 episode 'history of rome', he's pretty good for amateur historian

10:14

that's a bonkers number of episodes

10:14

makes dan carlin seem tame.

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yeah, but he goes into pretty deep detail. he's 44 episodes into the french revolution

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speaking of which, carlin's death throes of the republic is mega-recommended.

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*

decimation puts it on the list

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http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-death-throes-of-the-republic-series/

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Hardcore History - Death Throes of the Republic Series - Dan Carlin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ki3IhC )

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'if you give Stalin a memorandum recommending that 500 priests get shot, and Stalin crosses out 500 and pencils in 1000 in red pencil, then you better find 500 more priests to shoot, or the number becomes 1001 and includes you.'

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listened to it back in 2013. carlin is pretty masterful at bringing political and war stories to life.

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asciilifeform: I see a pretty direct route from nazis -> baathists -> isis

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'Could this have been done without any red terror? I doubt it. Greece is very much oligarch-ridden; even the celebrated former Syriza FM Yanis Varoufakis is the son an industrial magnate. The Greek oligarchs and the rich would have had to be rounded up and held as hostages. Numerous people in the government and in the military have a split allegiancethey work for Europe, not for Greece. They would have had to be sacke

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d immediately and held incommunicado, under house arrest at a minimum. No doubt foreign special services would have run rampant, looking for ways to undermine the revolutionary government. This would have called for drastic preemptive measures to physically eliminate foreign spies and agents before they could have had a chance to act. And so on. This wouldn't have been a job for fluffy mini-poodles. '

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the only reason anyone gives two shits about greece is because of the precedent it would set for spain, italy, other countries that matter

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which is nuts, when you think about it

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a precedent's only a precedent if two things are comparable.

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what, just because they're all on the mediterranean, apples are oranges now ?

10:23

italy, spain, and portugal suck in their own way, but their not career criminals like the greeks are.

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they're*

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no?

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it is nuts, but it's kinda what happens when you are pretending that the 'eu' exists

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asciilifeform: where were greece's foreign colonies in the last millennia ?

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pete_dushenski: not career criminals in italy and spain?

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punkman: under eu 'phree bezzle if you sign here', sure, but that's relatively recent.

10:25

greece has been at this game since plato, neh ?

10:27

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/07/20/ashley-madison-data-breach-time-to-buy-bitcoin/#comment-267850

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Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Ashley Madison data breach: time to buy Bitcoin? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ki59ga )

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pete_dushenski: at the scrapyard, 'ford' and 'mercedes' looks quite alike, and go in the same press

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^greenspun's got the bitcoin bug nao ;)

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asciilifeform: unless scrapyard is 'pick n' pull', in which case it's not just the raw materials that's priced out, but the actual functional parts extant

10:31

"Greece is very much oligarch-ridden" << because i'm sure greece would be in an EVEN BETTER financial position if only the power were returned to the puddles of mud who voted 'oxi'.

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and what are the good engine parts in sp, it, .. ?

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that's for the shake-out to determine, not top-down authorities.

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but as i understand, pete_dushenski was telling us that there ~are~ such

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so i wanted to know what supports this hypothesis

10:34

from my perch, these old 'rustbuckets' all looks quite alike

10:34

i don't see a clear 'mercedes'

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the 'eu' was a funding vehicle to give all the poor idiots money to buy german/french/uk goods

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outsourced inflation

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italy still has production capabilities - cars, clothes, bicycles, etc.

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now germany/france/uk are whining that they are being crushed by the debts they lent to these idiots so they could spend on their exports

10:35

i don't recall seeing a 'made in greece' tag recently, if ever.

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pete_dushenski: by same token, so does usa

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the only part of italy that isn't orc-land is the po river valley

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the question is not whether the machines are there - but whether anyone wants to pay enough for the output of said machines to actually feed italians

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and parts north

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(or americans)

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asciilifeform: agreed. i'm not of the opinion that usistan doesn't have useful shards.

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pete_dushenski: oh last couple years there's little greek flags on a myrida of products

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*myriad

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asciilifeform: eh, not like factory workers need so much to eat. hungry people work.

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half of it still's made in china of course

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punkman: lulzy

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'assembled in greece'

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pete_dushenski: usually accompanied by derpy slogans

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which is basically 'added label sticker in greece'

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"buy greek, support the economy"

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pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i

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asciilifeform: when grandfather was in prison, yes - hungry - which is why he still won't eat soup to this day.

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but today's hungry have no such option, from whence comes the idea that bitcoin wasn't discovered ?

10:42

i dun see that the group has much recourse against the capitalist.

10:43

you make it sound like we need them, when in point of fact it's the converse that's truer.

10:44

why any -person- would bother with greece is beyond me.

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eu of course isn't a -person-, it's a ponzi scheme with 'dignity' that has to save face.

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at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there.

10:46

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41550 @ 0.00056139 = 23.3258 BTC [+] {2}

10:49

pete_dushenski: i think that's american bias. as a eurpn i feel the same about greece as you do about itality, though they both are failed states and third world economies

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funkenstein_

olympus massif is beautiful, worth a visit for that summit alone

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phf: both failed states ? sure. the point isn't that their governments suck merkel's balls, of course they do, the point is that one of them is usable for spare parts, the other isn't.

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pete_dushenski: right, and that's what i'm saying is american bias. italy is popularized here because of all the italians, while greece is sometimes vaguely remembered

10:54

sorry, where's 'here' ?

10:54

sorry, "here" in the states

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aha. well i'm in canada but it's largely the same 'culture'.

10:55

russian (and european) literature borrows from greeks as much as it did from italians. i grew up intimately knowing greek mythos and not just from watching Hercules on tv, because you can't read a single russian novel without some greek allusion or outright a direct reference. when i went there i knew places from before even seeing them

10:57

well, eastern half of the roman empire 'went greek,' infecting eastern europe and up into russia, so that'd make sense.

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and i'm not saying that the greeks haven't been influential intellectually

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even if they did just bring egyptian and abrahamic philosophy to the northern mediterranean

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they took the best parts !

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but that was 2300 years ago now.

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the spanish, italians, and portuguese were relevant and productive as recently as a century ago.

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and the americans - a quarter century

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what of it

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less time for decay, more pieces left to rebuild with.

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'but it was a mercedes! last year!'

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'you totalled it'

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*

asciilifeform bbl

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so front end smashed, tires still roll.

11:02

leave that smashed-up merc for 200 years in the scrapyard and it'll be rust dust.

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pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but

11:02

<+punkman> depends on fee/age/etc << gimme some numbers here! oldest coins i have handy access to haven't moved since sept 2014

11:03

find the banged-up merc 200 -days- after the accident and maybe you find yourself a new alternator, or maybe the glass is all intact and salvageable.

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what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization"

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reason i'm wondering this is that it came up the other day

11:04

nobody's spammed all of the casascius coins yet

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funkenstein_

spamming an address doesn't change the age of the UTXOs already there

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no, you misunderstand

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sending spam/dust to a casascius coin's address is like spraying indelible graffiti on it

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i've passed up on coins because the addresses had extra funds sent to em

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why?

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i think he owns a mac punkman

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phf: sure it's sentimental, but sparta didn't invade troy for a woman, greece is being propped up because the eu doesn't want to admit FAILURE and suck Putin's and b-a's cock to compensate.

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because 'dignity', because reasons.

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because maybe papering over your problems with more and more layers of paper will eventually create a cast of 'stability'

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like greece is a broken arm, instead of the broken head it is.

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pete_dushenski: i vaguelly agree with that, but i'd say that's sop opinion here.

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and the opinions of the educated are to be discounted because the media has a bridge to sell you ?

11:18

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27975 @ 0.00055935 = 15.6478 BTC [-]

11:19

i don't know if the whole greece situation is a failure though. that /eu/ failed was obvious by 2005 or so. now germans seem to be doing exactly what they want to, that is refine their control over various parts of europe. next it's bailouts for italy, spain, etc. where wehrmacht failed, bundestag succeeds

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you can't have the eu failing and the bundestag succeeding at the same time. they're one and the same.

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if you're saying that the eu is failed/failing, which i happen to agree with, then by extension so has their monetary union and the german attempts at 'peaceful' unification of europe.

11:22

http://newsthump.com/2015/07/20/shark-survives-attack-by-australian-surfer/

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Shark survives attack by Australian surfer ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ii0vym )

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which, had the internet not come along and fucked shit up quite so badly, might've even worked.

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fluffypony: lucky shark !

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pete_dushenski: that i don't know. i was under the impression that germany came out stand as an independent economic power. with that assumption i don't see german bailout as any different as putin buying the place. with bailout the power lines are all obscured, because the purchase is done within an existing political framework so is not blatant.

11:32

putin be like "oh, so we're buying this shit? i got caash." and germany is like "no no, sshh, we're HELPING, mommy knows best, shoo"

11:36

the latest 'bailout conditions' do seem to indicate that greece's public amenities are being turned over to private/eu concerns.

11:37

sorta first-come-first-serve in that sense, and germany beat russia to the punch

11:39

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00056531 = 3.1375 BTC [+]

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00055645 = 8.625 BTC [-] {2}

11:54

"The formula for inertia is p=mv where p is inertia, m is mass and v is velocity." ahaha where did they find this fuckwit

11:55

"let's call things thing because it's the internet of things and conviction's more important than a clue!"

11:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00054545 = 14.8908 BTC [-] {2}

11:57

"“Given our focus on Falcon 9, we’ve de-prioritized Falcon Heavy to probably launch in the spring next year, maybe April or so,” SpaceX chief executive Elon Musk told reporters Monday."

11:58

such competence, these crown corp derps.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208629 << eh don't be ridiculous. "italy" is a modern construct, much like greece, and from the same period. prior to that construct, which was supposed to reboot the shitland, italy and greece did exactly the same. ask charles of france how the whores of venice went like.

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Logged on 21-07-2015 14:25:35; pete_dushenski: greece has been at this game since plato, neh ?

11:58

ask the barbarians who can fuck more soldiers than a roman matron

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etc

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for the record : p is impulse. the definition of inertia is m = F/a, where m is inertia[l mass].

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not saying 'italy' isn't a modern construct, more that what lies within its currently defined borders just so happens, perhaps by chance, perhaps not, to include more valuable 'parts' than greece does.

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as "opposed" i guess to energetic mass, m = 2W/v^2

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pete_dushenski this may reflect your own mind more than the ground.

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that can hardly be ruled out.

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now, as ever.

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mircea_popescu: do you dispute the point then ?

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yes. no difference in leechdom between italy and greece. they're exactly the same sort of zoo park. ex civilisaiton, plox baksheesh that's visible at giza

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I would wager that nearly all products you think of as 'coming from italy' are made north of florence

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and the short, brown, dumbass current inhabitants have as much to do with the slender, white, original builders of the monuments as your egyptian arabs have to do with the egyptians.

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go to the museum, look at the statues, then look at the people milling around them.

12:03

!up chema

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sure, pharoah's nose isn't mubarak's nose.

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Senegalese selling fake shit?

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lol

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decimation: then that's the part, north of florence, worth the bother !

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ie germany

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^ yeah more or less

12:05

north of verona most people speak german

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hm. yes.

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saxony, w/e. if you're into it.

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suedtirol was under active insurgancy only a few years ago

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http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/may/30/south-tyrol-live-in-italy-feel-austrian "Klotz says: "There are acts of racism each single day. Despite Italian and German both being official languages, I often bump into police officers who don't know German. They point at the Italian flag stitched on their uniform and require I speak Italian simply because we're in Italy. They don't even know that I have the right to speak in ...

12:08

The South Tyrol identity crisis: to live in Italy, but feel Austrian | Education | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jez4o7 )

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... my mother tongue so I show them this card. It drives me mad. I call this linguistic imperialism."

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why do they get to have their 'own identity'? > "Bolzano has Italy's highest GDP per capita, according to figures from Italy's National Statistics Office. Locals move around on bikes even when it rains and are proud of showing-off to the world Ötzi the Iceman, a mummy found in the glaciers close to Austria."

12:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6952 @ 0.00054509 = 3.7895 BTC [-]

12:17

Of course, this took a terrible toll on society. Here is what Putin had to say on the subject of red terror: Think of the hostages who were shot during the civil war, the destruction of entire social stratathe clergy, the prosperous peasants, the Cossacks. Such tragedies have recurred more than once during the history of mankind. And it always happened when initially attractive but ultimately empty ideals w

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ere raised above the main valuethe value of human life, above the rights and liberties of man. For our country this is especially tragic, because the scale was colossal. Thousands, millions of people were destroyed, sent to concentration camps, shot, tortured to death. And these were primarily people who had their own opinions, who weren't afraid to voice them. These were the most effective peoplethe flower of th

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e nation. Even after many years we feel the effect of this tragedy on ourselves. We must do a great deal to make sure that this is never forgotten.

12:17

Given that the price is so high, perhaps it would be better after all if we just sat quietly, allowed the rich get richer as the poor get poorer, watched listlessly as the environment got completely destroyed by capitalist industrialists in blind pursuit of profit, and eventually curled up, kissed our sweet asses good-bye and died?

12:17

somehow orlov doesn't feel compelled to go "check out schmuckin, going over to the euro tune of human rights"

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not because it wouldn't be consistent with the piece so far, and with his verbiage so far. but why then ?

12:18

fucking russian inferiority complex. "oh, europe is doing something stupid ? we will do THE SAME STUPID THING IN OUR OWN WAY!!11"

12:19

let's make a russian union run by russian bureaucrats with the capital at ruxelles!

12:24

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13184 @ 0.00056545 = 7.4549 BTC [+] {2}

12:25

why not bruxelles ? hard to beat the chocolate there.

12:26

quite the question.

12:26

from what i hear putin's been asked this a lot by the various oligarchs

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"2. Start printing Euros without authorization from the European Central bank. When accused of forgery, make the forgery harder to detect by changing the letter at the front of the serial number from Y (for Greece) to X (for Germany)." << ahaha gawd.

12:27

dude has nfi how shit works does he.

12:27

"o herp, we are flooding europe with fake euros. can you break a 500 ???"

12:28

somehow the "i am not a revolutionary, here are my opinions on how that works" does not give him any pause whatsoever. "i'm a virgin, here's some songs about fucking i wrote". because why ?

12:28

rotten fucking pseudo-civilisation of nothing. let's commentate commentary!

12:30

lol. y'know, just in case any actual revolutionaries are reading orlov and needing fatherly advice from someone with no skin in the game.

12:31

https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759/src/main/com/mongodb/ConnectionStatus.java#L213

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mongo-java-driver/ConnectionStatus.java at 1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759 · mongodb/mongo-java-driver · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JuVzAY )

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because being raised by charlatanic economists and the like have trained idjits to seek advice from tards with 'no conflicts of interest'

12:31

pete_dushenski i know, right ?!

12:32

that's EXACTLY what actual revolutionaries are thinking right now. "i wonder if there's some schmuck on a google blog with opinions. let me check!"

12:32

"oh, you think i should buy $goog even though you wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole ? ok !"

12:32

mats what am i looking at ?

12:33

speaking of which, how comes the commodity ticker widget, kakobrekla ?

12:33

1 in 10 failures don't get reported ?

12:35

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208662 << this is to me personally the most interesting point.

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Logged on 21-07-2015 14:39:00; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i

12:36

i know from directly verified experimental fact that properly chained and beaten they DO work. the spark to work and be smart and everything's not lost.

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now, will large herds of worthless schmucks be turnable into an actual population ? i grant it seems dubious.

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and who's gonna bother with training them individually.

12:36

but then again - shoot all the males, keep the females under 20ish that suck it enthusiastically has always been the procedure

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perhaps for a very good reason.

12:38

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208669 << by this logic turkey exceeds italy and greece combined

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Logged on 21-07-2015 14:46:29; pete_dushenski: at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there.

12:38

mircea_popescu: a technique for preventing resource exhaustion in a weird place

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(yes, most of the ruins of roman antiquity are in turkey, not europe)

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and there's no shortage of production capability in turkey atm.

12:39

too bad germany let the istanbul slip through their fingers a decade ago.

12:41

holy textwall

12:46

berzin managed to succeed where multiple generation of tzar bureaucrats failed developing natural resource on the kolyma peninsula by taking a scientific approach to the whole idea of "hungry people work"

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"Apple Inc said it is experiencing some issues with its App Store, Apple Music, iTunes Store and some other services. The company did not provide details but said only some users were affected." << qntra not alone.

13:05

!up ascii_field

13:06

so last 24 hours or so I've been working on getting an automated testing framework setup for this forthcoming release. I've got one scenario working (simple one). Here's what it kinda looks like - although this isn't the entire code, there is a module I left out for now. http://dpaste.com/32GZH0A.txt

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... ( http://bit.ly/1g255V4 )

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With some effort up front I might be able to automate the ~20 or so scenarios that i've sketched out for the release. Could save all of us a lot of time by installing/emerging a few things on gentoo and then just running these tests instead of having to do all the testing manually.

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We'll see where it goes and if I run into too many problems.

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But as far as cucumber, even if I have issues with the steps (so far it's been very easy), if I write out the scenarios in the feature, it should be a decent testing guide in itself.

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Of course, there will actually be a separate, more formal testing guide that I'll create also.

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Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol.

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When I do get around to drafting up all of the scenarios, I'll put that in here as well, maybe you guys can think of other tests that I hvaen't thought of yet. Or edge cases. etc.

13:15

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00054509 = 11.7194 BTC [-]

13:25

so tx spam is back.

13:26

aaaand

13:26

the 'let's make the backbone lose bitcoin packetz' thing is also back

13:26

currently targeting my new node

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(or rather, to be more specific, appears to be active on the corner of the net where the latte resides)

13:27

same deal as was tested on mircea_popescu's node last month

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socket lays open, but silent

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eventually peers mark node as 'misbehaving' and killfile it

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*the latter

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208802 << ahahaha yes

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Logged on 21-07-2015 16:46:50; phf: berzin managed to succeed where multiple generation of tzar bureaucrats failed developing natural resource on the kolyma peninsula by taking a scientific approach to the whole idea of "hungry people work"

13:28

!s butugychag

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23 results for 'butugychag' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=butugychag

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!s судьбы моей рычаг

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0 results for 'судьбы моей рычаг' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D1%8C%D0%B1%D1%8B+%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B9+%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B3

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damn

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disconnecting node 147.87.116.160:42162 socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0

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etc, etc

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208779 << epic

13:32

Logged on 21-07-2015 16:31:12; mats: https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759/src/main/com/mongodb/ConnectionStatus.java#L213

13:32

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21196 @ 0.00056682 = 12.0143 BTC [+]

13:34

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208696 << mircea_popescu has a post about just this!

13:34

Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization"

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phf: http://trilema.com/2015/the-situation-of-greece

13:34

The situation of Greece on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kj5xrS )

13:37

!up ascii_field

13:38

re situation of greece, i think i missed that one somehow

13:38

thanks

13:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLERL4_SveI

13:45

News 8 at 6pm - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1g2b10m )

13:46

https://vimeo.com/25479104 has some shots of butugychag around 24:05, though the whole documentary is interesting, done by a shalamov fan in early 90s

13:46

Колымская командировка on Vimeo ... ( http://bit.ly/1g2bgbH )

13:48

i think i saw this, aha

13:53

ascii_field: what's your best block height?

13:53

where?

13:53

your node that you were speaking about ^

13:53

365587 - three blocks away from where it was turned on

13:54

(after loading chain externally)

13:54

oh

13:54

it gets thousands of these 'silent' connection attempts

13:55

every hour or two - manages to snarf a block, yes

13:55

but not enough to keep up then obv.

13:55

aha

13:56

once in a while, even gets tx

13:56

for a minute or two at a stretch

13:56

then falls back into these 'socket closed'

13:56

open/close, open/close

13:57

the bitcoind AND the os are bitwise-identical to those of another node presently running happily.

14:09

!up ascii_field

14:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00054479 = 2.7784 BTC [-] {2}

14:12

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17930 @ 0.0005447 = 9.7665 BTC [-]

14:18

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/21/5000-naked-anti-gay-protesters-to-greet-President-Obama-in-Kenya/9511437473622/

14:18

lol

14:19

thestringpuller

~>

14:26

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11170 @ 0.00056845 = 6.3496 BTC [+] {2}

14:31

in other news, my stator has caught up with the net at large

14:31

congrats ben_vulpes!

14:31

"blocks" : 366328,

14:31

yay!

14:32

anybody ever tried building against libressl yet?

14:32

BingoBoingo has

14:32

I noticed it was forked from the version of openssl in use

14:32

that's next on my list

14:32

neat, I tried too, ran into some issue, but was going to try again

14:32

so I'll continue on fiddling with it

14:32

in quite other news, i found a simple and software-only means of reading and writing the nand fw of 'miracast'

14:32

doesn't even need the cable

14:34

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00056976 = 1.9942 BTC [+]

14:36

solrodar

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2015#1206079 << I was using the OS package from Ubuntu 14.02, which is boost version 1.54

14:36

Logged on 19-07-2015 00:40:38; ben_vulpes: <decimation> boost fails to compile << i actually ran into this when hacking against solrodar's clang + graphviz callgraph thinger

14:41

solrodar

as well as generating the call graph, I was able to actually build bitcoind against that version, though I didn't test it

14:56

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00054166 = 23.6164 BTC [-] {2}

15:03

!up ascii_field

15:03

ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000126.html

15:03

[BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Pogoization of 'Miracast' ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO8q4r )

15:10

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208689 << he's getting a lot better at this isn't he.

15:10

Logged on 21-07-2015 15:01:01; asciilifeform: 'you totalled it'

15:11

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208693 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2014/the-logical-impossibility-and-the-moral-untenability-of-forgiveness/

15:11

Logged on 21-07-2015 15:02:22; phf: pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but

15:11

The logical impossibility, and the moral untenability, of forgiveness on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO9OE6 )

15:11

works out.

15:13

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208696 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2015/the-situation-of-greece/#selection-31.119-31.232

15:13

Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization"

15:13

The situation of Greece on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1COaidh )

15:14

clearly, the sect is working.

15:17

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D

15:17

Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol.

15:17

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208830 << so now you get to see the other end of it, for your records.

15:17

Logged on 21-07-2015 17:31:20; ascii_field: disconnecting node 147.87.116.160:42162 socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0

15:18

mircea_popescu: both ends look quite alike

15:18

indeed.

15:18

im sure it's all just a coincidence.

15:18

socket opens, but packets drown in the bermuda triangle

15:18

it often happens for very complex systems to behave in highly consistent ways with a clearly identifiable beneficiary all by themselves.

15:18

this is how the us budget is constructed, at any rate.

15:19

i warned that the buggerz will do exactly this

15:19

yearz ago

15:19

yeah. but warning there's gonna be an eclypse is not quite the same as watching the eclypse over a beer, out on a terrace.

15:19

wave at the public,

15:19

aha.

15:19

*

mircea_popescu waves at the public

15:20

hello public. look at all the things that aren't happening!

15:20

and also have perfectly simple and so forth explanations and etc.

15:21

phf where you from anyway ?

15:22

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208865 << shit i had no idea kenyans wore clothes ?!

15:22

Logged on 21-07-2015 18:18:01; fluffypony: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/21/5000-naked-anti-gay-protesters-to-greet-President-Obama-in-Kenya/9511437473622/

15:22

lol

15:23

15:23

... ( http://bit.ly/1CObOMA )

15:30

mircea_popescu: moscow

15:31

o hey. living there ?

15:36

no, not anymore, not for a while actually, but not as long as ascii seems like. i live in philadelphia and about 1/3 of time in dc

15:42

thestringpuller

!up assbot

15:42

thestringpuller

!up ascii_field

15:44

ben_vulpes: you guys going to oscon?

15:46

some aficionado http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html

15:46

Bitcoin mining on a 55 year old IBM 1401 mainframe: 80 seconds per hash ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfjTm )

15:46

kakobrekla: iirc it is in the log

15:46

!s http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html

15:46

Bitcoin mining on a 55 year old IBM 1401 mainframe: 80 seconds per hash ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfjTm )

15:46

0 results for 'http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.righto.com%2F2015%2F05%2Fbitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html

15:47

dunno

15:47

undo then

15:47

my moscow is gone anyway, 90ые are over, so it's all aparatchiks tightening the screws. and i don't know anyone "on the pipeline"

15:53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3fsSL4Bw9w&t=0m15s

15:53

Nabokov and the moment of truth - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1COgDFP )

16:07

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00055488 = 11.2363 BTC [+] {2}

~ 30 minutes ~

16:38

<asciilifeform> so i wanted to know what supports this hypothesis << Generally before crushing trash car's is held for some time and parts sold to mechanics who then sell to their customers for half price of "new" stock

16:45

<trinque> anybody ever tried building against libressl yet? << LibreSSL 2.0 fully synced in wild, LibreSSL 2.1 Kept up as of this morning will probably try a full sync eventually

16:45

cool.

16:49

Turns out it only takes about 5 hours on this machine with a puny mobile processor to compile Kernel, Userland, and Xenocara in order to upgrade from release to -stable as well

16:50

not bad; I continue to see parallels between gentoo and openbsd usage patterns

16:51

*

trinque tries a tcpkill on deedbot's irc

16:51

processor is amd e350 so takes ~25-33% CPU utilization around the clock just keeping up with Bitcoin when sync'd

16:54

hm, so why would this thing still think it's connected on the other end?

16:56

ah there we go

16:56

unix has its warts, but the things you can cobble together with the pipe...

16:57

one more try, then I'll call it good

~ 16 minutes ~

17:13

BingoBoingo / cazalla , qntra submission: http://dpaste.com/2T9SCHJ

17:13

dpaste: 2T9SCHJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1COr0JH )

17:14

!up ascii_field

17:14

qntra points to a very quick-loading 404 now

17:14

hanbot: Looks good

17:15

;;later tell mircea_popescu Can we get that window to post and archive soon?

17:15

The operation succeeded.

17:15

;;later tell mircea_popescu can haz a pcap dump of the ddos packets plz ?

17:15

The operation succeeded.

17:22

;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.phylomemetic-tree.de/spackeria/daily/%23spackeria.03-24.log << http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF

17:22

... ( http://bit.ly/1fk5PnN )

17:22

Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1fk5PEb )

17:22

The operation succeeded.

17:24

;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.whoismind.com/email/bXM-schmidt-system.de.html << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E

17:24

ms@schmidt-system.de - Email Data ... ( http://bit.ly/1COs5kM )

17:24

Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1COs6VL )

17:24

The operation succeeded.

17:27

;;later tell mircea_popescu https://github.com/cyco << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C214323FE8F5A745404185908E2CFAB4D18087093B71CDBC40C01FA883C060D4

17:27

cyco (Christoph Leimbrock) · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1COsm79 )

17:27

Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1COsmnO )

17:27

The operation succeeded.

17:27

^^^ anyone who has time to carry on in this pattern, is encouraged.

~ 17 minutes ~

17:45

!up ascii_field

17:55

!up devthedev

~ 40 minutes ~

18:35

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKdtsfaUwAA1V6_.jpg << reddit meet-up

18:35

... ( http://bit.ly/1CU5WBh )

18:42

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39627 @ 0.00056343 = 22.327 BTC [+] {5}

~ 22 minutes ~

19:05

danielpbarron, here's a better shot http://i.imgur.com/Ob7rq.jpg

19:05

... ( http://bit.ly/1GAlchJ )

19:07

lol

19:08

asciilifeform: did you already have those datasheets I linked last night?

19:09

also some amusing reading: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/coroutines.html " One of the particular problems that often comes up is this: if you have a piece of code producing data, and another piece of code consuming it, which should be the caller and which should be the callee? ... In The Art of Computer Programming, Donald Knuth presents a solution to this sort of problem. His answer is to throw away the stack ...

19:09

Coroutines in C ... ( http://bit.ly/1GAlYLE )

19:09

... concept completely. Stop thinking of one process as the caller and the other as the callee, and start thinking of them as cooperating equals. ... This is very nice in theory, but in practice you can only do it in assembly language, because no commonly used high level language supports the coroutine call primitive. Languages like C depend utterly on their stack-based structure, so whenever control passes from any function to ...

19:09

... any other, one must be the caller and the other must be the callee. So if you want to write portable code, this technique is at least as impractical as the Unix pipe solution. "

19:10

in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible'

19:25

bedrock my ass, the bedrock is assembly language on a 2(or more)-core system... what shapes possibilities is the crappy foundation sunk into the quicksand sludge on top of the rock

19:26

gradually modern "languages" (glorified syntax processors) are waking up to the reality recognized decades ago

19:26

doesn't mean that reality didn't exist in the terim

19:32

werd.

19:41

maybe I'm an idiot, but you can do coroutine patterns in many high level languages

19:41

perhaps not as efficiently as someone thinking about hardware wants

19:47

http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4411

19:47

Delimited continuations for C/C++ | Lambda the Ultimate ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrQ9N9 )

19:47

actually that one uses asm

19:49

https://code.google.com/p/libconcurrency << uses jmp and stack-fiddling magic, doesn't appear to have any asm

19:49

libconcurrency - A scalable concurrency library for C - Google Project Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrQteI )

20:00

http://qntra.net/2015/07/alm-ceo-cries-terrorism-after-ashley-madison-hack/ and DDos This https://archive.is/i7XvH << hanbot

20:00

ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrRxPE )

20:00

ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrRzqQ )

20:01

isn't this sort of like saying common lisp is impossible, after all, the machine only implements syslisp?

20:02

this being "the bedrock is shaping..."

20:02

ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack http://qntra.net/2015/07/alm-ceo-cries-terrorism-after-ashley-madison-hack/

20:04

Trial For Alleged Ricin Importer Begins http://qntra.net/2015/07/trial-for-alleged-ricin-importer-begins/

20:05

ah BingoBoingo, didn't catch your earlier piece. think mine needs a redundancy edit?

20:06

hanbot: I gave it the redundancy edit by linking the earlier piece

20:07

cool deal.

20:07

terrorism...

20:07

you know that Bin Laden guy really hit it outta the park.

20:07

The ashley madison thing is big, you wrote a better story. My quick piece was just to get something in as soon as possible considering our... uptime issues.

20:09

I begin to see how there's a runaway social process here.

20:09

and wd on that front BingoBoingo!

20:10

thanks

20:11

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14498 @ 0.00055177 = 7.9996 BTC [-]

20:12

trinque what's that, ostrichprocess?

20:15

hanbot: some interaction between the subconscious effect of even having a vast american govt at all...

20:15

everyone here knows on some level they could kick the door in at any moment

20:15

the things people joke about show that

20:17

the attack created the atmosphere of "something must be done"

20:18

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8302 @ 0.00055056 = 4.5707 BTC [-]

20:18

<+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D << heheh. well, with any luck it might help us this time around. my hope is that some python hero will pick up the torch and take this thing forward next time around.

20:18

Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol.

20:18

for those of you who are interested in such things: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1128004.0

20:18

CASASCIUS COMBO AUCTION ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrTo79 )

20:19

and the precariousness of baseless narcissism, being that it could be knocked over by reality at any moment

20:20

you have a situation where everything generates more fear, and so long as people believe the govts role is to remove anything feared, it'll proceed further in the same direction

20:20

I expect a general concept of "being terrorised" to develop which is some descendent of being "triggered" and so on

20:22

indeed.

20:23

all that to say we were hit right in the heel

20:23

there was no chance the whole thing wouldn't be caught by every camera in miles

20:23

the thing's indelliby there, forever

20:25

and ofc, "nobody could have foreseen"

20:25

mhm

20:26

and since "this *doesn't* happen to america" and it can never be forgotten, we will pick at the wound until it kills us

20:26

Triggered https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/21/d82584f2695873b143b7f56ccf26e656.jpg

20:26

... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUkZd )

20:27

that's just cause the food never makes it to the table

20:27

More triggered https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/21/395e55a4ba1859a676fb401e6dc9e5d9.jpg

20:27

... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUqjD )

20:28

sheeit, published my non-spell checked version

20:28

Maximally triggered https://i.imgur.com/fVzsFLt.jpg

20:28

... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUDTN )

20:29

BingoBoingo, why ya got all these links to such images?

20:29

woah dude

20:29

woah

20:29

Why did they have to burn crosses?

20:29

BingoBoingo isn't it...disadvantageous to be triggerable by something so...abundant? i bet people sensitive to anorexics have a much easier time

20:30

It is, but one has to keep the hateorade full somehow.

20:30

oh, I just go for a walk for that

20:31

ditto

20:33

BingoBoingo: that fella must've run off from a circus ?

20:33

mircea_popescu: 'bermuda triangle of packets' carries on

20:34

accepted connection 82.130.102.173:38621

20:34

accepted connection 129.13.252.36:52829

20:34

socket closed

20:34

disconnecting node 82.130.102.173:38621

20:34

accepted connection 148.251.238.178:43407

20:34

Silk Road Heroin Dealer Receives 2-1/2 Years Prison Sentence http://qntra.net/2015/07/silk-road-heroin-dealer-receives-2-12-years-prison-sentence/

20:34

socket closed

20:34

asciilifeform: I'm not so sure. Perhaps Walmart was closed or had no scooty puffs for him to ride?

20:34

disconnecting node 148.251.238.178:43407

20:34

socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0

20:34

disconnecting node 129.13.252.36:52829

20:34

etc

20:34

http://qntra.net/2015/07/trial-for-alleged-ricin-importer-begins >>><<< http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014#623044

20:34

Trial For Alleged Ricin Importer Begins | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVgwH )

20:34

Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now.

20:35

next innovation is constructing both sides!

20:35

what will they think of next

20:35

trinque: 'the man who was thursday'

20:35

chesterton already thought of it!

20:35

*

trinque puts it in the queue

20:36

so...

20:36

this was not the plan, but...

20:36

mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al:

20:36

gentlemen, please welcome 'incitatus': 64.85.171.71:8333

20:36

a very sad therealbitcoin node

20:36

which isn't synced and doesn't threaten to any time soon

20:37

because of - apparently - usg diddling the pipes.

20:37

go ahead, try to connect.

20:37

height=365788

20:38

http://dpaste.com/1AN13QZ.txt << last n lines of log

20:38

... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVG69 )

20:39

hehe, sorry.

20:39

this has been going on, punctuated with occasional bursts of activity, since it was switched on this morning.

20:40

it was build ~deliberately~ bitwise-identical to a properly-functioning node hosted elsewhere.

20:40

there can be ~NO~ fucking question of misconfiguration

20:40

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-07-2015#1206896 <<<<< guess what. it has.

20:40

Logged on 20-07-2015 00:44:24; mircea_popescu: you seriously proposing the internet just goes away ?

20:41

asciilifeform: well, that last burst is me netcat'ing you repeatedly

20:41

phf: don't hesitate.

20:41

also, anyone who has the time, try a packet capture

20:42

when this was happening to mircea_popescu's node, all i found was sockets opening and then standing entirely still

20:42

as if no one were bothering to transmit

20:42

if this is a 'cosmic ray', then i fart monkeys.

20:43

asciilifeform: Node reports a starting height of -1

20:43

waiwat

20:43

BingoBoingo: you got packets ?!

20:43

please post pcap !!

20:43

esp. of this '-1' business.

20:43

http://dpaste.com/0N2JC68.txt No packets, just the peer info.

20:43

... ( http://bit.ly/1LrW4Sg )

20:44

need the packetz

20:44

otherwise this could easily be the peculiar behaviour of BingoBoingo's phoundation node

20:44

(perhaps it assigns -1 to nodes which did not answer pings.)

20:44

must be <--> this many hops away from fort meade to ride

20:44

*

asciilifeform cannot be bothered to read any more phoundation code

20:45

Peerinfo for two s.nsa nodes for comparison http://dpaste.com/2SR9H1M.txt

20:45

... ( http://bit.ly/1LrWesF )

20:45

phf: this particular box is hosted in northeast usa

20:46

BingoBoingo: one of those is incitatus

20:46

BingoBoingo: you probably wanted 'zoolag,' 96.241.120.166:8333

20:47

Oh no I just addnode'd incitatus

20:47

anyway if this carries on, i will be cancelling my contract with that hoster

20:47

(after ~6 years!)

20:48

could just as easily be an upstream thing

20:48

could be your hoster doesn't like bitcoind nodes

20:48

no reason for a threadbare american hoster to be in on the mega-secret

20:49

phf: they never cared re: bittorrent

20:49

I'm reminded of comcast telling me yesterday that "that port 25, that's not yours"

20:49

Node I'm connecting with identifies as protocol version 99992

20:49

or 1,001 other bandwidth hogs

20:49

Is this corenetworks?

20:49

clearly-enumerated byte limit in the contract, but otherwise open-eneded

20:49

BingoBoingo: aha

20:50

I remember you mentioning earlier as source of cheapboxes

20:51

http://dpaste.com/1116A5J.txt << moar

20:51

... ( http://bit.ly/1MGQqc7 )

20:52

;;later tell danielpbarron pete_dushenski http://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2014-octeon_dsr500.pdf

20:52

... ( http://bit.ly/1MGQCYZ )

20:52

The operation succeeded.

20:53

and in case anyone has forgotten, this is not a problem limited to goatfuckistans like usa, but appears to exist in backbone

20:54

the days of plaintext packets sailing around the world unmolested are not merely numbered - but long gone.

20:54

nice, BingoBoingo

20:54

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00055933 = 17.7867 BTC [+] {2}

20:54

*

asciilifeform bbl

21:05

asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/2YKPPYY.txt

21:05

... ( http://bit.ly/1LrXT1z )

21:06

mod6: what does that "lasttry" indicate?

21:07

well that and seen

21:07

clock not set?

21:10

clock is < 1 minute off

21:10

http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp#0636

21:10

Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/net.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGST6m )

21:10

mod6: what about his clock?

21:11

*shrug*

21:11

asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441

21:11

or at least have been all dayt.

21:12

my other instance is connected to the same node, and still syncing, but much further down the chain: height=215394

21:12

that one has been crawling for days.

21:12

but still chugging.

21:12

so it's ok

21:14

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95899 @ 0.00055828 = 53.5385 BTC [-]

~ 21 minutes ~

21:36

here's another sample with another more advanced test automated: http://dpaste.com/15BA2H1.txt

21:36

... ( http://bit.ly/1CUgmAR )

21:37

this one shows that we can connect with -connect & -myip, sleep for a bit, check connection count, shutdown bitcoind, then sleep a bit more (in case we restart bitcoind on the next test, we wanna allow some time for the DB to sync etc.)

21:38

again hopefully someone in the future can learn from what I'm doing here and take this over in python.

21:44

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81500 @ 0.00056899 = 46.3727 BTC [+]

21:51

eh is python really better than perl?

21:51

I have my doubts

21:52

perl python and ruby are all kissing cousins

21:54

well, i agree. i honestly like perl better, but that's maybe because I've been doing small things in it for 15 years.

21:54

and.. i don't wanna be the only one who can write tests for this thing :}

21:54

so it'd be nice to eventually move this into something that other guys know how to do.

21:55

it's pretty cool tho 'eh?

22:01

It's a bit harder to make python write only like perl. very hard to find good sample ruby code because rails

22:09

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208987 < to be clear, assembly would allow co-routine 'jumps' just fine

22:09

Logged on 21-07-2015 23:10:42; decimation: in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible'

22:09

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.00055285 = 32.7287 BTC [-] {3}

22:16

<+ascii_field> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000126.html << nice work!

22:16

[BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Pogoization of 'Miracast' ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO8q4r )

22:18

Systemdick appologist gets fucked by systemd-ism https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Btrfs-System-Fail-4.2-More

22:18

Btrfs Seems To Finally Have Failed Me On A Production System - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1TP56dj )

22:22

lobbesbot

New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (PGP Corporation Update Signing Key; PGP Corporation Update Signing Key ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0D9057DA7AEE12C725AA9408D47F4FFC3769BEF7891A0F9C0A9F38420C5C08AB#F79436B629322C70C523BAA5BE0D3D4DDA011578F84122B8CA3ABD15C52A9567>

22:22

... ( http://bit.ly/1gNelws )

22:22

mod6: yeah, super cool

22:26

asciilifeform: which 'rockchip' do you have? the imgur image is not clear

22:40

"assbot: I don't do bots, mod6." << lollerskates!

~ 20 minutes ~

23:01

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63832 @ 0.00056899 = 36.3198 BTC [+] {2}

23:02

decimation: it is in the log (dpaste link to the spew from serial port on boot)

23:02

can't recall immediately

23:02

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44068 @ 0.00056926 = 25.0861 BTC [+]

23:04

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209175 << 3*4294967297

23:04

Logged on 22-07-2015 02:22:29; lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (PGP Corporation Update Signing Key; PGP Corporation Update Signing Key ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0D9057DA7AEE12C725AA9408D47F4FFC3769BEF7891A0F9C0A9F38420C5C08AB#F79436B629322C70C523BAA5BE0D3D4DDA011578F84122B8CA3ABD15C52A9567>

23:04

and ^ yes, 'PGP Corporation Update Signing Key' was in the 'magic list'

23:04

<asciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-07-2015#1209175 << 3*4294967297 << Want to qntra this one up?

23:04

Logged on 22-07-2015 02:22:29; lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (PGP Corporation Update Signing Key; PGP Corporation Update Signing Key ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/0D9057DA7AEE12C725AA9408D47F4FFC3769BEF7891A0F9C0A9F38420C5C08AB#F79436B629322C70C523BAA5BE0D3D4DDA011578F84122B8CA3ABD15C52A9567>

23:04

y'know, cosmic rays love update signing keyz

23:04

^

23:05

it is quite arguably old nyooz

23:05

considering that i proved that all of the items in the 'magic list' are divisible by 4294967297

23:06

(and that, conversely, all items thusly divisible are in the list)

23:06

http://dpaste.com/39RAKKQ.txt << log from incitatus, as of ten seconds ago

23:06

... ( http://bit.ly/1HPZisz )

23:07

^ posted here because this fragment is typical

23:09

https://seals.networksolutions.com/siteseal_seek/siteseal?v_shortname=NETEV&v_querytype=W&v_search=cryptome.org&x=5&y=5 << sad

23:09

Site Credentials for http://www.cryptome.org/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1HPZuIa )

23:09

ferfuxxake, WHY??

23:11

dat sha1

23:11

asciilifeform: interestingly your link is in the log but is completely missing from search

23:11

even just from:asciilifeform

23:12

decimation: the search is broken from day 1

23:12

when, for reasons entirely unknown to me, it was made to behave in whatever different way from 'grep'

23:12

which is the one and only true search.

23:13

it used to be even more broken though

23:13

lol

23:13

yeah I was aware of the stemming shit, but not that it completely misses things

23:13

ok it appears to be RK2928 if the kernel bootlog isn't lying

23:14

as far as i can tell, it insists on breaking at word boundaries

23:14

which is, imho, wildly ludicrous

23:14

if i wanted the machine to care about whitespace, i would have put whitespace in the query

23:15

yeah but in this case I was looking at all results for from:asciilifeform

23:15

and it isn't present

23:15

who knows how many lines are dropped

23:15

possibly ascii_field

23:15

nope

23:16

then wtf

23:16

interestingly the chat took place very near the daily rollover

23:16

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1208034 < try to search for this line

23:16

Logged on 20-07-2015 23:59:37; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt

23:17

http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=asciilifeform%3A+ben_vulpes%2C+mod6%2C+mircea_popescu%2C+jurov%2C+et+al%3A+http%3A%2F%2Fdpaste.com%2F0YSCME3.txt

23:17

1 results for 'asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt' - #bitcoin-assets search

23:17

interesting

23:20

http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:asciilifeform&start=220

23:20

70433 results for 'from:asciilifeform' - #bitcoin-assets search

23:23

asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000128.html

23:23

[BTC-dev] Recent Patches Read & Signed : WARNING! ... ( http://bit.ly/1COXfs4 )

23:24

mod6: neato!

23:24

heh I like that warning

23:25

;;later tell mircea_popescu http://gnezdoparanoika.ru/podgotovka-k-vijivaniu/111-sovety-partizanam-poleznye-plakaty.html << true p03try11!!!

23:25

Советы партизанам. Полезные плакаты ... ( http://bit.ly/1COXiUU )

23:25

The operation succeeded.

23:29

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82513 @ 0.00054469 = 44.944 BTC [-] {6}

23:29

asciilifeform: http://hwswbits.blogspot.com/2013/06/full-rk3066-technical-reference-manual.html < has some links to a paper on the rk2928

23:29

Hardware & Software Useful bits: Full RK3066 Technical Reference Manual found! ... ( http://bit.ly/1HQ2vbH )

23:29

"And 2916 RK2928 chip output through internal IO_SWITCH debug serial and OTG interfaces on the same set of IO, RK2926 for the first 6465 pin, RK2928 to V8 W8 pins. The two serial ports for the default mode, when detecting VBUS signal will switch to USB_DEVICE mode, detects the ID port is low will automatically

23:30

Automatically switches to USB_HOST mode. Debugging serial connection is shown below, OTG_DP pick serial small board RXD, OTG_DN pick serial small board

23:30

TXD, master and serial small plate connected to ground, do not connect the power supply pins."

23:30

these are reasonably-documented, yes

23:30

so i'm attempting reference implementation install for the first time and have a boatload of errors at ./auto.sh , not sure where to begin. if anyone has the time & patience for my noobery, please ding me.

23:30

there's some stuff about DDR, but no full datasheet for that one

23:30

hanbot: aha

23:30

hanbot: or pm if you want

23:31

well hopefully if logged it can be pointed to other folks later if needed

23:31

aha then shoot

23:31

what'd be useful, config.log dump?

23:32

sure, use `script` to start a logging facility just type 'exit' when done and it'll dump out a 'typscript' file in the local dir.

23:32

incidentally, if this is mod6's 'auto.sh,' i'm afraid that i can't recommend it. it never worked on my system.

23:32

(but perhaps it works for others ?)

23:32

it did on mine but only after modification (realpath for one)

23:32

it was designed to work on deb6, others had no problems. but *shrug*. what system are you using hanbot?

23:33

but it's several patches behind anyway, would try to use stator

23:33

interesting. well lessee. yeah, installed realpath.

23:34

really, the main question at this point should be: do you wanna run the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE or are you looking to help test with the latest (pre)v0.5.4 patches?

23:35

i'm hoping to build stator manually. release + patches & antecedents mentioned in stator post.

23:36

manually ?

23:36

ah

23:36

what does this mean

23:36

asciilifeform: probably 'whole orchestra'

23:37

Is anyone other than ben_vulpes interested in my 0.7-ish turdball?

23:37

well my variety speak is weak here lol.

23:37

the classical recipe for stator involves getting hold of the dependencies (listed in stator/distfiles/MANIFEST), placing them in the latter dir, and ./stator.sh

23:37

this builds the whole shebang.

23:39

Microsoft Product Critical Vulnerability Week After Update End of Life http://qntra.net/2015/07/microsoft-product-critical-vulnerability-week-after-update-end-of-life/

23:39

iirc stator didn't have a -e, might want that

23:39

I added it to mine to deal with blown up steps when fiddling with gcov and libressl

23:39

https://archive.is/Ae5cT

23:39

Microsoft Product Critical Vulnerability Week After Update End of Life | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1COYd7R )

23:39

trinque: -e ?

23:39

/bin/sh -e

23:40

or set -e I think is equivalent

23:40

what's that do

23:40

bails out at the first exit nonzero

23:40

good idea.

23:43

asciilifeform: https://github.com/omegamoon/ < these folks seem to have a kernel for the rk30xx series socs

23:43

omegamoon · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1COYtDJ )

23:44

asciilifeform so this route i imagined of installing v0.5.3.1-RELEASE followed by patching with the two bits mentioned in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html & the patches they themselves require is...impossible? redundant?

23:44

[BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Static Builder for TheRealBitcoin. ... ( http://bit.ly/1COYtUn )

23:44

ah so ~that~ manual

23:44

no, it is entirely doable and worth doing.

23:44