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← 2015-07-19 | 2015-07-21 → ↓
00:00 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 12 @ 0.15099999 = 1.812 BTC [+] {2}
00:01 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.15090322 = 1.509 BTC [-]
00:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.15099999 = 1.963 BTC [+] {2}
00:04 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 14 @ 0.15090322 = 2.1126 BTC [-] {2}
00:06 assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.15099999 = 1.963 BTC [+] {2}
00:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24687 @ 0.00056448 = 13.9353 BTC [-] {2}
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00:37 decimation http://spacenews.com/china-eyes-purchase-of-sea-launch-assets/ < "Struggling commercial launch-service provider Sea Launch AG and its owner, Energia of Russia, are in talks with the Chinese government on selling the Sea Launch command ship and launch platform to Chinese interests that would station the system in international waters offshore China, industry officials said."
00:37 assbot China Eyes Purchase of Sea Launch Assets - SpaceNews.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kfufw9 )
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01:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89998 @ 0.00059234 = 53.3094 BTC [+] {5}
01:14 BingoBoingo https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3dw01g/worlds_first_bitcoin_only_mmorpg_with_possibility/
01:14 assbot Worlds first Bitcoin only MMORPG with possibility to earn actual Satoshi's, Eulora is gaining momentum. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mf1E9D )
01:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00058117 = 11.7978 BTC [-]
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02:03 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27473 @ 0.00057034 = 15.669 BTC [-]
02:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44576 @ 0.00057049 = 25.4302 BTC [+]
02:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88468 @ 0.00058089 = 51.3902 BTC [+] {2}
02:22 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2832 @ 0.00059287 = 1.679 BTC [+]
02:26 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113626 @ 0.00059344 = 67.4302 BTC [+] {4}
02:27 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56624 @ 0.00059945 = 33.9433 BTC [+] {3}
02:40 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71435 @ 0.00056466 = 40.3365 BTC [-] {2}
02:41 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 151100 @ 0.00056086 = 84.7459 BTC [-] {3}
02:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73446 @ 0.00060033 = 44.0918 BTC [+] {3}
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03:14 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74850 @ 0.00055337 = 41.4197 BTC [-] {4}
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03:33 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15159 @ 0.00056862 = 8.6197 BTC [+] {2}
03:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17767 @ 0.00054599 = 9.7006 BTC [-]
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03:51 punkman !up rooder
03:52 rooder so sell me an island
03:52 punkman would you also like a bridge with that?
03:53 rooder nah, ive a boat
03:54 punkman banks reopen after 3 weeks
03:55 punkman you can't get your money but they still call it a bank
03:55 rooder meanwhile al buys unheard of island to open a cannery
03:55 rooder all in bitcoin
03:56 rooder 600 euro a week?
03:56 rooder dats rood
03:56 punkman 420 a week
03:57 rooder oh
03:59 rooder did you vote?
04:00 punkman I got better things to do
04:01 rooder no donkey?
04:02 rooder busy working on bitcoin darkpools?
04:02 rooder world is funny
04:03 rooder greece is very broke
04:03 punkman http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2015/07/17-efsm-bridge-loan-greece/
04:04 assbot EFSM: Council approves €7bn bridge loan to Greece - Consilium ... ( http://bit.ly/1MCCYpB )
04:04 rooder is germany that frightened of turkish bread?
04:04 punkman "The loan will have a maximum maturity of three months and will be disbursed in up to two instalments. It will allow Greece to clear its arrears with the IMF and the Bank of Greece and to repay the ECB, until Greece would start receiving financing under a new programme from the European Stability Mechanism"
04:06 rooder i dont understand
04:08 rooder you reside in england now?
04:08 rooder where you dont need crowbars to final loans
04:09 punkman yeah but all that rain
04:09 punkman too wet
04:09 rooder lol
04:10 rooder you proley live down the road
04:11 rooder that said the economics here are equally retarded\
04:13 rooder have decimation look at it
04:13 rooder little bit like nz little bit like france ... voila
04:13 rooder bro
04:16 rooder eat pig
04:19 rooder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zALx9vDhjWU
04:20 rooder what does greece actually own?
04:21 rooder no pigs no roads
04:21 rooder some old math
04:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39050 @ 0.00055957 = 21.8512 BTC [+] {2}
04:33 BingoBoingo !up nanaki
04:36 BingoBoingo !up GoonClooney
04:36 BingoBoingo !up wgromniak
04:39 nanaki trilema.com is down now, I think.
04:40 BingoBoingo http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/revealed-why-slim-people-dislike-the-overweight-459459.html
04:40 assbot Revealed: why slim people dislike the overweight - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1RIN52O )
04:40 BingoBoingo ;;isup qntra.net
04:40 gribble qntra.net is down
04:40 BingoBoingo ;;isup trilema.com
04:40 gribble trilema.com is down
04:40 BingoBoingo :(
04:40 BingoBoingo Much sad
04:42 nanaki Must I wait 4-5 hours to meet mircea_popescu here?
04:42 Naphex nanaki: you can just join when he's around
04:43 BingoBoingo It's really hard to tell when he will return. Might be back in 5 minutes or 18 hours. Eulora made him even less predictable than before.
04:45 nanaki thanks :)
04:45 cazalla the great thing about irc though is that you can leave a message now and just tab back in an hour, tmw or even next week
04:45 BingoBoingo !up hazirafel
04:45 BingoBoingo !up shesek
04:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00057582 = 23.7238 BTC [+] {2}
04:46 punkman !up rooder
04:52 rooder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0kcet4aPpQ
04:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61612 @ 0.00054585 = 33.6309 BTC [-] {2}
04:56 rooder blondie next
04:58 rooder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU_4-5RaxU
04:58 assbot Blondie - Heart Of Glass - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1HEaPx2 )
05:02 rooder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgPUxjQOk-w
05:03 nanaki My (nanaki's) message to mircea_popescu: I have placed a bet on bitbet.us and sent BTCs and successfully confirmed at block# 366130 but the website doesn't apply it. The bottom of the page says "Last block: 1 hour 4 minutes ago (366131)" so it must have applied my bet. ==> SOLVED: the site reflected my bet 1h 18m later since confirmed. Usually the reflection is quick so I slightly panicked! Thank you.
05:03 rooder David Bowie - D.J.
05:08 rooder https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6myNbk15sMs <<
05:08 assbot Lightning Seeds - Pure - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RIPXwE )
05:21 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80582 @ 0.00056746 = 45.7271 BTC [+] {4}
05:31 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71362 @ 0.0005842 = 41.6897 BTC [+]
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05:55 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49838 @ 0.00058898 = 29.3536 BTC [+] {2}
05:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00057986 = 9.9736 BTC [-]
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06:28 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85550 @ 0.00059922 = 51.2633 BTC [+]
06:38 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86254 @ 0.00059922 = 51.6851 BTC [+]
06:42 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00059922 = 6.0521 BTC [+]
06:56 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60984 @ 0.00059922 = 36.5428 BTC [+]
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07:16 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89498 @ 0.00060014 = 53.7113 BTC [+] {4}
07:23 mircea_popescu aww someone got butthurt ?
07:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71400 @ 0.00058952 = 42.0917 BTC [-] {2}
07:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00058334 = 8.1084 BTC [-]
07:38 mircea_popescu 311M 996G LOGDROPIN all -- !lo * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 lulz
07:45 mircea_popescu incidentally kakobrekla could assbot be changed so instead of dropping a bitly links it drops an archive.today link ?
07:46 mircea_popescu at least get an archive for teh effort.
07:46 kakobrekla ill check
07:46 mircea_popescu danke
07:50 mircea_popescu !up hazirafel
07:50 hazirafel would you use a program that sends bitcoin to the cruch of satane very time you enter facebook?
07:50 hazirafel curch
07:51 mircea_popescu i don't have a facebook ?
07:51 mircea_popescu and what's "enter" anyway, every time you load a webpage that pulls their fucktarded button ?
07:51 hazirafel good
07:51 hazirafel no
07:51 mircea_popescu for that matter what's "the church of satan"
07:51 mircea_popescu well no. why not.
07:51 hazirafel google it
07:51 hazirafel oks
07:52 mircea_popescu google is not in my wot.
07:52 hazirafel look it up in the phone book :)
07:53 cazalla hazirafel, why the CoS instead of some other charity?
07:53 hazirafel just a thought
07:54 hazirafel something not liked/funny
07:55 mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/2EASGTJ << the denyin reference for that 311M pkts logdropin thing, on the off chance anyone gives a shit about the details
07:55 mircea_popescu pro tip : if your AN is in there you're a fucktard, i don't care if your name is "verizon"
07:56 mircea_popescu s/AN/ASN/
07:56 cazalla hazirafel, i would suggest the Human Fund
07:57 mircea_popescu heh
07:58 hazirafel this? http://www.the-human-fund.org/heritage/
07:58 assbot About — The Human Fund ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmJlAa )
07:59 cazalla whatever
07:59 hazirafel thanks
07:59 mircea_popescu ahahaha what!
08:00 mircea_popescu hazirafel it's a seinfeld reference.
08:00 mircea_popescu and here's something to bother my man cazalla : http://38.media.tumblr.com/d79ced52386260419f282a6cbea59cc0/tumblr_n5oxc1uPJp1trwqu4o1_400.gif
08:00 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmJBiF )
08:00 cazalla lol why would that bother me
08:00 hazirafel art
08:01 mircea_popescu a well, was worth a shot.
08:03 cazalla speaking of Seinfeld.. "On Wednesday (April 29) the online streaming service Hulu struck a deal with the “show about nothing,” paying $700,000 per episode ($130 million) for the rights to add the series to its already stellar lineup."
08:10 mircea_popescu not bad
08:10 mircea_popescu dude makes money while sleeping.
08:14 hazirafel heh
08:14 hazirafel maybe i'll watch the episode
08:18 mircea_popescu btw cazalla qntra should be back now. not sure how long it'll hold, but - publish anything you may have backing up your publishpipes
08:18 mircea_popescu and archive the pages lol.
08:20 cazalla thankfully it's been quiet, BingoBoingo might have one or had one in mind though
08:22 mircea_popescu aww.
08:23 mircea_popescu ;;later tell nanaki find a better hobby, what can i tell you.
08:23 gribble The operation succeeded.
08:24 mircea_popescu my quest to disturb cazalla continues. http://38.media.tumblr.com/8824129a0d3e247174ee10e89fd30918/tumblr_myl0k5QvGj1qjhn09o2_400.gif
08:25 cazalla that's a pretty fail attempt tbh
08:25 mircea_popescu ;/
08:26 mircea_popescu ima go cut
08:26 mircea_popescu some grass now.
08:26 cazalla sok for another woman to lick an ass, just don't ask me to do it, sorta how fucking twins is fine as you're not the one committing incest
08:27 mircea_popescu how are you not lol
08:28 mircea_popescu you think the married woman is committing adultery alone ?
08:28 kakobrekla whats the difference between female tongue and male tongue ???
08:29 mircea_popescu female tongue is split
08:29 mircea_popescu no wait, i was thinking of the wrong species.
08:29 cazalla kakobrekla, i don't know, it's not about that anyway, i just don't fancy sticking my tongue there but to each their own
08:30 mircea_popescu cazalla well you realise if your bar for being bothered is "being pictures of ME doing things", i got god's own work cut out for me here...
08:30 cazalla mircea_popescu, how is it an incestous act for me if i am not related to them?
08:31 mircea_popescu cuz you're in it.
08:31 cazalla fuck, so be it then if it mean doing twins
08:32 mircea_popescu ehehe.
08:32 mircea_popescu problem with doing twins is that, like anything else in life, you get used to it.
08:32 cazalla and nothing much bothers me, why should i be bothered someone else enjoys giving rimjobs
08:33 cazalla i'll have to take your word for it as this is a problem i doubt i will ever have
08:33 mircea_popescu anyway. my grassy knoll awaits. later!
08:39 cazalla it's only smellz
08:47 shinohai http://gizmodo.com/hackers-threaten-to-expose-40-million-cheating-ashleyma-1718965334
08:47 assbot Hackers Threaten to Expose 37 Million Cheating AshleyMadison Users ... ( http://bit.ly/1TLVEr6 )
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09:18 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 91988 @ 0.00057922 = 53.2813 BTC [-] {2}
09:19 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32678 @ 0.00057293 = 18.7222 BTC [-] {2}
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09:37 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00059668 = 7.19 BTC [+]
09:47 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31750 @ 0.00058489 = 18.5703 BTC [-]
09:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25812 @ 0.00058489 = 15.0972 BTC [-]
10:08 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46250 @ 0.0005728 = 26.492 BTC [-]
10:10 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44050 @ 0.00056223 = 24.7662 BTC [-] {2}
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10:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22809 @ 0.00055666 = 12.6969 BTC [-]
10:39 decimation my blk0009.dat diverges from mod6's too - one of my blk0008.dat matches his (sha256sums). Something weird happens in blk0009 (approx block height < 300k)
10:40 decimation my blk0009.dat 6f230687f04b41d5cc3d5f3b9cdd497c1b9103394eeda96cef1d0998b3c5d185 : I'm syncing from ascii's node using 'stator'
10:40 * shinohai should try a resync to ascii's node
10:41 mod6 as a reminder tho, those hashes of my .dat files were from "the wild" sync.
10:42 mod6 i'll be revisiting this not too long from now with some hashes from mp's orig chain
10:45 shinohai @ mod6 does the MP node sync past the phork now?
10:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2863 @ 0.00055666 = 1.5937 BTC [-]
10:46 mod6 haven't gotten there yet on nsl's node
10:46 mod6 height=351462
10:46 shinohai ah k
10:46 mod6 my openbsd one is crawling along.
10:46 shinohai I haven't synced stator yet. My release 0.5.3 is still up always though.
10:46 mod6 height=205332
10:47 mod6 0.5.3.1 ?
10:47 shinohai yeah that one
10:47 mod6 nice, what block are you on?
10:48 shinohai 366172 it updated but on regular blockchain
10:50 mod6 did it sync the same way from block 0->current in the same manner, i.e. by finding nodes all over irc?
10:52 shinohai mod6 yes it only connected to irc nodes i guess, since it is before the irc demolition.
10:53 mod6 good deal man.
10:53 shinohai pogo is on hold until I get an ssd, still is a great chat server
10:53 mod6 thanks for reporting back on that
10:53 mod6 haha, pogo chat server?
10:53 shinohai It's nice being the first guy to destroy a SATA installing arch on a pogo
10:54 mod6 it bricked the drive?
10:57 shinohai yeah. made a screech and was gone. I have had that one forever though. I got 5 more old satas but I should just do things right with an ssd
10:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00055316 = 1.7701 BTC [-]
10:58 mod6 yikes, threw a bering 'eh
10:58 shinohai yup
10:58 mod6 well, thanks for putting in the effort to test this stuff, we appreciate it.
10:59 mod6 effort & parts!
10:59 shinohai I love this shit, takes me a bit of time to catch up with you warriors, but I'm getting there.
11:00 mod6 for sure. thanks, we need all the help we can get.
11:01 shinohai Buying a pogo with btc that was on my 0.5.3. node was kinda cool too.
11:02 asciilifeform i thought everybody knew, at this point, that one cannot expect to end up with same blkxxxx at all times, on account of forklets.
11:03 shinohai I kinda figured that but what can you do.
11:03 asciilifeform in other nyooz, 69 active connections on s.nsa's node.
11:03 asciilifeform new recordz every day.
11:04 mod6 <+asciilifeform> i thought everybody knew, at this point, that one cannot expect to end up with same blkxxxx at all times, on account of forklets. << yeah i recall.
11:04 mod6 i guess more importantly than that, im gonna do a for(0->366XXX) dump of each block and hash it, compare it to the list that you ended up with ascii.
11:05 asciilifeform somebody found a bug in 'blkcut' but did not follow up re: replicating
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11:05 mod6 69! yeah, we need more nodes.
11:05 asciilifeform ( danielpbarron ? )
11:05 mod6 is this the one where blkcut error made it fall over?
11:05 asciilifeform aha
11:06 shinohai asciilifeform: which is the nsa lab node at again?
11:07 mod6 same ip
11:07 asciilifeform 195.211.154.159:8333
11:08 shinohai @ mod6 when I raise a few more btc and a few bugs worked out, I am going to put 2 more up, one at my gf's house and one at my friends.
11:08 mod6 heheh. well, just make sure if you /do/ put up a node, it is somewhat phasar resistant
11:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00055316 = 4.5912 BTC [-]
11:09 mod6 I'm gonna put up a few too, but gotta wait about 6 wks.
11:09 mod6 ;/
11:10 shinohai me too. First ssd, then expansion. >;3
11:11 asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://xkcd.com/1553
11:11 assbot xkcd: Public Key ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbHqgh )
11:11 gribble The operation succeeded.
11:11 shinohai dat comic
11:13 mod6 haha
11:15 shinohai Also, if anyone needs proofreaing and ed work done this week I am free to work :D
11:16 mod6 actually...
11:16 mod6 if you're looking for something to keep you busy for an evening, you can test out the gentoo x86-64 nomultilib guide
11:16 mod6 :]
11:16 mod6 we need a 3rd person to verify this thing so i can finally send it to the lst.
11:17 shinohai link me. I have never installed gentoo in my life, but a good time to learn
11:19 mod6 ah, yeah, so ... this guide is for a physical box (takes you through using livecd) -- if you wanna set it up in a VM im sure you can do something similar with a livecd, just hvae to attach the iso file to the virtual dvd/cdrom drive.. and probably follow the same steps.
11:20 mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide.txt && http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-uclibc-hardened-guide-wFullExamples.txt
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11:20 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbIAZ3 )
11:20 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbID76 )
11:20 mod6 bah. ignore that second one. that's for uclibc.
11:20 mod6 here's the second one with full examples for nomultilib: http://thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide-wFullExamples.txt
11:21 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbIHnx )
11:21 shinohai Thanks mod6 I'll get on it this evenin'
11:21 * shinohai usually ignores notes on distros besides his own
11:24 mod6 shinohai: awesome! no rush either. when you get time is cool. let me know how it goes, i'll be around to answer q's.
11:25 shinohai np an education is a terrible thing to waste.
11:25 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65332 @ 0.00055429 = 36.2129 BTC [+] {2}
11:25 mod6 the first doc is just the commands you need, so it's kinda cut/pasteable. the second is the commands with their output so you can get a sense of what you should expect to see.
11:25 shinohai I'm a masochist and type everything LOL
11:26 mod6 haha, no worries. that's fine too.
11:28 shinohai Time is the most important asset for testing. I still want to prove that a small group can outproduce the "bitcoin foundation" sans their immense budget they blew.
11:30 asciilifeform outproduce ?
11:30 shinohai outproduce: Make a better product.
11:33 shinohai Or a more high-performing one.
11:36 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109083 @ 0.00056146 = 61.2457 BTC [+] {2}
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11:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33917 @ 0.00056865 = 19.2869 BTC [+]
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12:34 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66650 @ 0.00055196 = 36.7881 BTC [-] {2}
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12:59 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00055086 = 20.2716 BTC [-]
13:13 trinque RUN MOAR GENTOO
13:17 asciilifeform ?
13:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52808 @ 0.00056298 = 29.7298 BTC [+]
13:27 shinohai whelp it seems pogos make excellent mining controllers, not that I mine anymore.
13:32 trinque asciilifeform: sincerely.
13:32 trinque shinohai: guide's really easy
13:33 shinohai Looks so trinque, and I hopped on craigslist and bought a shitty laptop for $100
13:33 trinque nice.
13:33 shinohai So new toy for later yay
13:33 trinque they've got "Free Geek" here for scrap
13:33 trinque I tend to make my way there once a week or so
13:35 shinohai I wish we had something like that here. I blow so much on used equipment xD
13:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53400 @ 0.00055086 = 29.4159 BTC [-]
13:36 trinque shinohai: sometimes goodwill also has an electronics dept, depending on where you're at
13:37 shinohai Yeah but they have incredibly shitty electronics at our Goodwill. I usually troll craigslist and sometimes get free parts.
13:37 shinohai But today, pickings were slim and I needed a spare lappy
13:45 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68350 @ 0.00054738 = 37.4134 BTC [-] {4}
13:51 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ty but no :D
13:54 mircea_popescu shinohai working on the 950kb bogus block atm.
13:54 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: working how? single-stepping the thing ?
13:55 shinohai Thank you for your continued dedication.
13:56 mircea_popescu poor mod6 no time to mine because all this foundation stuff fell on his head.
13:56 mircea_popescu asciilifeform basically.
13:57 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36952 @ 0.00054514 = 20.144 BTC [-]
14:02 mod6 haha
14:02 mircea_popescu to continue the chick in rubber skin thread, http://38.media.tumblr.com/c42b2ab51e7e9e85ad0c04c935504746/tumblr_n3u2tstiHD1rnqh33o2_r1_500.gif
14:02 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Mga9S0 )
14:11 mircea_popescu incidentally, anyone amused at how the "mainstream media" took all of five seconds to decide random white dude was "racially motivated" blowing up a black church, wheras they're still "trying to look for motives" that paki dude shot up the marines ?
14:11 mircea_popescu sandniggers can't be raceist!
14:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this apparatus works, i was told, like the ubiquitous kitchen vacuum sealer machine. but with an airhole. it is popular where i live, i was told.
14:11 mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite so yes.
14:12 mircea_popescu and i suspect all this is autism related and should prolly be a med insurance deductable, like kinetotherapy.
14:12 asciilifeform kinda reminds me of the 'why not connect air compressor to the tuba' concept
14:12 asciilifeform not everything oughta be mechanized
14:12 mircea_popescu there is this particular thing in autists where being compressed widely helps
14:15 asciilifeform the chick who told me about the vacuum bed was into it as a straight bdsm thing iirc
14:23 trinque man that thing makes me uncomfortable
14:24 trinque anybody ever wants my launch codes, there's the way
14:24 asciilifeform peine forte et dure !!
14:27 trinque mircea_popescu: I could see it being nice for people with sensory overload issues
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14:53 lobbesbot New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Sven Arnold ; ) <http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/DC9D7BC1ADFF9D074C29DA18CB7224920FDAABD2348152DE296A6293FF3C1914#1A76F4EB3DC6C31C58912BB58D3C9DCDC00B82C9614792BADBFB0CE75DE943B3>
14:54 shinohai Another one bites the dust.
14:56 trinque mod6: BingoBoingo: what are your opinions on using random-id and reassemble tcp in incoming traffic through pf?
14:56 trinque and more generally, any recommended practices?
14:56 * trinque has found the openbsd manpages to be in a class of their own
14:56 trinque exceptionally thorough
15:03 mod6 trinque: what are you trying to achieve?
15:04 trinque mod6: best practices for home router with several hosts behind it
15:05 mod6 im not positive (i don't have access to my pf.conf atm) that i've ever used random-id. i think that's for a very specific problem. but yeah you probably /do/ want scrub all reassemble tcp
15:05 trinque cool, am doing that
15:10 mod6 looks like you can use random-id for some normalizatoin purposes... main thing is here, read the pf.conf man page 2x and then build up your firewall and use the heck outta tcpdump to ensure what your rule set is as you want it.
15:10 mod6 start simple, then build in more complexity as only necessary.
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15:15 BingoBoingo Looks like Qntra survived this weekend better than Gawker did https://archive.is/joOPE
15:17 BingoBoingo <trinque> mod6: BingoBoingo: what are your opinions on using random-id and reassemble tcp in incoming traffic through pf? << Haven't used either of those yet. Pretty much use block, pass, and queue
15:18 trinque k
15:19 trinque former seems like handling internal host derpage (winblowz for example)
15:19 trinque latter seems to have to do with hiding facts about the inner network topology
15:19 BingoBoingo Then don't have derpy internal hosts
15:20 trinque yeah
15:21 trinque maybe asciilifeform's perspective on mitigations applies to the latter
15:21 trinque rather, both
15:32 asciilifeform wai wat
15:32 trinque asciilifeform: re aslr and other things
15:32 trinque seemed to be a point about superficial mitigations vs fixing the underlying issue
15:33 trinque in this case it'd be as BingoBoingo said, don't have fucking dumb hosts that can't TCP
15:33 * asciilifeform does not play whackamole
15:33 * asciilifeform will not encourage others to play it
15:33 trinque yeah
15:38 punkman https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177298
15:39 trinque braindamage
15:40 mod6 asciilifeform: ever get a chance to look at those bins?
15:40 asciilifeform unfortunately not
15:40 mod6 np. it can wait for a bit.
15:41 mod6 the openssl configure script (perl lel) seems to indicate that no-shared is the default -- but i wanna be sure.
15:42 mod6 openssl-1.0.1g # grep "my \$no_shared" Configure \ my $no_shared=0; # but "no-shared" is default
15:42 scoopbot_revived Ashley Madison Hacked http://qntra.net/2015/07/ashley-madison-hacked/
15:42 mod6 wat
15:42 mod6 oh
15:43 asciilifeform 'and leaving their interesting and activities oriented towards extramarital dating exposed.' << ?
15:44 mod6 strangely worded
15:44 trinque might've meant "interest"
15:44 trinque whole sentence needs to be chopped and screwed
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15:53 hanbot ey mircea_popescu http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963
15:54 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00055508 = 11.7122 BTC [-]
15:54 BingoBoingo https://archive.is/Bvp9c << Just in case
15:54 mircea_popescu hanbot heh
15:55 asciilifeform l0l!
15:55 mircea_popescu Mircea Popescu, who is opposed to scalability due to his vocal disdain for “the poor”
15:55 mircea_popescu derp.
15:55 mircea_popescu i am not opposed "to scalability". i am opposed to very specific idiocy for very clearly delineated technical reasons.
15:56 hanbot srsly, why's "the poor" in quotes?!
15:56 mircea_popescu i just don't happen to be clueless enough to confuse those for "Scalability". considering i am not actually a technical expert, this reflects very poorly opn the intellectual abilities and assorted scholarship of random derps opining on nasdaq.com
15:57 mircea_popescu and in any case - it's not some "disain for the poor" that's at work. just because everyone is on a (mostly hypocritical) fixation on loving the poor does not make my position disdain
15:57 mircea_popescu i merely do not give enough of a shit about the cause celebre du jour to neglect technical arguments for its sake.
15:58 mircea_popescu if anyone still has a twitter account, maybe link the derp to the above. you never know when athlete face learns something from the internets.
15:59 mircea_popescu "The views and opinions expressed herein are the views and opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of The NASDAQ OMX Group, Inc." mmmmkay... then why are you publishing it ?
15:59 mircea_popescu "oh, because fiat glbse is so desperate for <<organic traffic>> they're resorting to the politically correct version of spun content & keyword stuffing" ? kthx.
16:01 BingoBoingo asciilifeform: fxd
16:01 mircea_popescu if my father weren't a total fuckwit, he'd have told me "my son, you'll make a billion dollars before you'll read a two page item about you that manages to eschew glaring errors".
16:01 mircea_popescu that'd have been interesting to know twenty years ago.
16:03 mircea_popescu trinque i think the manuals are the secret reason keeping any bsd userbase.
16:03 mircea_popescu strangely enough, nobody seems to learn anything from this.
16:03 chetty visa doesn't dicriminate against 'the poor', they just either don't give them credit or charge them bucket for it
16:04 mircea_popescu <BingoBoingo> Looks like Qntra survived this weekend better than Gawker did https://archive.is/joOPE << kinda hard to keep a job that doesn't come with a salary i guess.
16:04 trinque mircea_popescu: makes sense, they're excellent.
16:04 mircea_popescu trinque yeah. more important for a powerful foss than gcc.
16:04 mircea_popescu the one thing closed source can never do is good docs.
16:05 mircea_popescu somehow the bright strategic minds involved missed this point.
16:05 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Oh those were the paid, pretentious herders of the unpaid. But since Denton clamped down on their lulz Apparently herding interns is too much nao.
16:06 BingoBoingo <mircea_popescu> the one thing closed source can never do is good docs. << But then how would they sell support as a seperate product?
16:06 mod6 I linked him
16:06 mircea_popescu the "sell support" model has been thoroughly debunked in the field. or at least that's the moral i draw from revierwing history.
16:06 mircea_popescu the only endpoint for that is where rhel ended up : a cheaper USG Department of Windows.
16:07 mircea_popescu if that's what you aim to do with your life, go to new york join the police force.
16:07 BingoBoingo "sell support" worked for cisco and oracle when marketing to the helpless and overencumbered with bezzle
16:07 mircea_popescu better union, better insurance, etc.
16:08 mircea_popescu it pointedly did not work foir cisco.
16:08 mircea_popescu it took them to the same dark place, and recently cost them their entire business.
16:08 asciilifeform meanwhile i'm about to stand up another node!
16:09 mircea_popescu yay.
16:09 mod6 http://twitter.com/modsix/status/623222065982607360
16:09 asciilifeform (likely, no sooner than tomorrow noon. but it is cooking, yes)
16:09 mircea_popescu asciilifeform you paying for the server or just using one already deployed ?
16:09 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: using a box i've been hiring for years, 'in case'
16:09 mircea_popescu aha. if you wish to pro-rate towards nsa budget i'll ok it.
16:10 asciilifeform it's a cheapo box with a 10meg line and 70gb disk
16:10 asciilifeform probably will fill some time reasonably soon, at which point i'll finally cancel the contract on it
16:10 mircea_popescu k
16:11 asciilifeform gonna stand up more boxes in various places, incl. phriends who expressed interest
16:11 mircea_popescu cool deal.
16:12 mircea_popescu lol @ mod6 s twitter location
16:12 BingoBoingo Not even a year and thing's now something to stand up on boxes
16:12 mircea_popescu how's the weather this time o year ?
16:12 mod6 Wonderful :]
16:12 mircea_popescu BingoBoingo incredibru huh ? one alf plows like 1024 chickens.
16:13 mod6 Can only check teh weather if in assbots L2. Which is very temperate.
16:13 BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Seriously
16:13 mircea_popescu ehehe
16:16 asciilifeform moar patchez in the pipe, too
16:17 asciilifeform one (optional...!) to set a version string that actually displays to folks like 'bitnodes'
16:17 BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/623164818971713536
16:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40800 @ 0.00057411 = 23.4237 BTC [+]
16:17 asciilifeform and another (also experimental) that adds 'flushmempool'
16:18 BingoBoingo ^ China now doing the biggest SQL join in history. #AshleyMadison #OPMhack
16:18 asciilifeform l0l
16:18 * asciilifeform bbl
16:18 mircea_popescu ahahaha
16:21 mircea_popescu ". The essence of Gawker has always been what happens when we get out of those meetings and go back to writing and editing the stories you do that no one else can do. "
16:21 mircea_popescu dude srsly ?
16:21 mircea_popescu these schmucks actually thought they do something remarkable in any sense ?
16:22 mircea_popescu fascinating what derps actually sell themselves into. gawker editorial actually thinks it's more than a branded chicken coop
16:22 mircea_popescu they probably imagine they ever published anything worth reading, too.
16:22 mircea_popescu nuts.
16:22 mircea_popescu next i'm gonna hear shit farmers in kenya think they're pulling the sun up each morning.
16:30 chetty <mircea_popescu> next i'm gonna hear shit farmers in kenya think they're pulling the sun up each morning.// they aren't?
16:31 mircea_popescu obviously.
16:31 mats http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/ct-lockheed-martin-sikorsky-aircraft-20150720-story.html
16:31 assbot Lockheed Martin to buy Sikorsky Aircraft for $9 billion - Chicago Tribune ... ( http://bit.ly/1OiflTR )
16:31 mircea_popescu kinda funny to see the us reduced to the 50th state of the great nation of africa, but then again
16:31 mircea_popescu not my country, not my problem.
16:32 shinohai http://www.amazon.com/Baconlube--Flavored-Massage-Personal-Lubricant/dp/B00XQENVUS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437373740&sr=8-1&keywords=bacon+lube
16:32 assbot Amazon.com: Baconlube- Bacon Flavored Massage Oil & Personal Lubricant by J&D's: Health & Personal Care ... ( http://bit.ly/1OifAhz )
16:33 mircea_popescu anyway, the one notable thing re gawker is that the twerps smokling the crack pipe of radical-this-and-that do not have either the intellectual wherewithal to notice nor the mental acumen to actually create THEIR OWN FUCKING BLOGS.
16:33 scoopbot_revived Kickass Torrents Dropped From Google Search Results http://qntra.net/2015/07/kickass-torrents-dropped-from-google-search-results/
16:33 mircea_popescu seriously, you gotta write emails to the staff about stuff like this ?
16:33 mircea_popescu because why, it's 1715 all over again ?
16:35 mircea_popescu "oh here's a backroom napkin scribbled with my protest over the culture of backroom dealing these people imported into our fine organisation of delusions of transparency. i am too stupid to understand how ridiculous i'm being. NEOTENY FOR THE VICTORY!!11"
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16:36 mircea_popescu gawker does "radical transparency" don't you know. when you fuck with me you can read all about it on trilema, but it's gawker that's radically transparent. a bunch of twerps whose names nobody even happens to know. paragons in their own minds of things they don't understand, nor would understand even if they actually tried thinking about 'em.
16:36 mircea_popescu fucking monkeys already.
16:40 BingoBoingo http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/07/20/1233229/amd-catalyst-linux-driver-performs-wildly-different-based-on-programs-name
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16:40 assbot AMD Catalyst Linux Driver Performs Wildly Different Based On Program's Name - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OigmLK )
16:40 mircea_popescu coming up next, "top 5 best program names for amd compatibility"
16:42 BingoBoingo Apparently doom3.x86 is a good one
16:43 BingoBoingo Also a journey to the mind of a Windows User https://archive.is/Kq7JT
16:43 assbot CEO-011 comments on [CRITICAL] Windows users: Update your machine NOW! ... ( http://bit.ly/1JcDVWW )
16:46 mircea_popescu in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/b7ffaed85dc3cc4f937cbc57d46e2d58/tumblr_n2m74yD7d21sjyuzzo1_500.jpg
16:46 assbot ... ( https://archive.is/http://41.media.tumblr.com/b7ffaed85dc3cc4f937cbc57d46e2d58/tumblr_n2m74yD7d21sjyuzzo1_500.jpg )
16:46 mircea_popescu HA-ha!
16:46 mircea_popescu my suspicions...
16:47 mircea_popescu now if it also worked...
16:47 kakobrekla what
16:47 kakobrekla click de archive this url.
16:49 kakobrekla or ?
16:49 mircea_popescu ah two clicks away.
16:50 mircea_popescu good enough i guess.
16:50 kakobrekla that parsing and saving is very slow on some sites and i dunno if we want to hit him with everything ?
16:51 mircea_popescu yeah makes sense.
16:51 mircea_popescu if anyone cares they can click.
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18:58 phf <mircea_popescu> fascinating what derps actually sell themselves into. gawker editorial actually thinks it's more than a branded chicken coop << from a limited experience, that seems like a sop in certain kind of sillicon-valley inspired u.s. company. a combination of "you can do anything!" with worst sort of delusions of grandeur.
18:59 phf ties nicely with that tlp article about "the real me"
19:09 trinque phf: yeah, these companies practically force their employees to take part in it
19:09 gernika That's the reason I can't work as a startup employee anymore: they want you to *believe*
19:09 trinque can't just do your job; you have to be drunk on whatever half-assed propaganda they came up with
19:10 trinque gernika: indeed.
19:11 * trinque tosses "passionate" on the american pyre
19:16 phf i worked for one such company last year, joined out of curiousity, but stayed to finish projects i was responsible for. the amount of dysfunctional behavior was staggering.
19:17 phf they had socially mandatory fist bumps, instead of hand shakes, by way of greeting.
19:19 phf ceo would regularly send out "vote for us as the best place to work in the city", "vote for me as the best ceo"
19:20 gernika phf Did you have to endure a hackathon?
19:22 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207955 << ample precedent for this crap. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=163 -- and also that famous find where 'skype' turned out to slow deliberately when CPUID instruction returned something other than intel
19:22 assbot Logged on 20-07-2015 20:40:05; BingoBoingo: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/07/20/1233229/amd-catalyst-linux-driver-performs-wildly-different-based-on-programs-name
19:22 assbot Loper OS » How to un-break graphical Java apps under Ratpoison ... ( https://archive.is/http://www.loper-os.org/?p=163 )
19:23 phf gernika: i didn't have to endure much, except shortage of competent underlings, but i witnessed cto organizing hackathon for other teams, and it was painful. blind leading the blind
19:23 asciilifeform ;;isup qntra.net
19:23 gribble qntra.net is down
19:23 asciilifeform mircea_popescu et al ^
19:25 asciilifeform http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963#/comment-2146567362 << extra-lulzy
19:25 assbot The Crypto-Cold War: Bitcoin's Politics of Scalability - NASDAQ.com ... ( https://archive.is/http://www.nasdaq.com/article/the-cryptocold-war-bitcoins-politics-of-scalability-cm497963#/comment-2146567362 )
19:27 phf it took me a while to even realize that the majority of employees had less then 3 years of programming experience, majority of managers had no software project experiences, etc. i didn't really understand until experiencing it first hand, that a large software company can be so utterly dysfunctional. and yet "we're all winners!"
19:28 asciilifeform dafuq is a 'hackathon' ?
19:28 asciilifeform newspeak for 'deathmarch' ?
19:29 trinque you get pizza and beer and invite shmoes off the street to come "hack"
19:29 trinque and expect them to ... not sure what
19:29 trinque "ideate"
19:29 mats solve problems for free!
19:32 phf we had a better thing than hackathon. a small group of junior developers were tasked with designing a curriculum and writing tutorials for training people with zero computer skills to become rails developers. to, i shit you not, "help disadvantaged peoples".
19:32 trinque the concept was obviously shat by marketing people who believed in the myth of "the weekend app that made a million bezzlars"
19:32 trinque obviously if it worked for "them" it'll solve all our corporate dysfunction
19:33 trinque phf: do what now?
19:33 gernika trinque that type of hackathon is innocuous compared to mandated hackathons at work.
19:34 trinque phf: like this was gonna get some bum off the street, making rails sites?
19:34 trinque gernika: yeah, the one where they fucked up project management so you're gonna ship this weekend by god!
19:34 gernika At one such hackathon, employees were encouraged to spend the night in the office.
19:34 trinque all of these people are useless
19:35 phf trinque: i was at one "interview" with a guy with zero programmer experience, straight from "you can do anything!" video, we're talking "dropped out of art degree to become a waiter, but hours were brutal, so i want to become a programmer"
19:35 trinque clearly the only thing preventing idiocracy is that it could never get that far
19:37 trinque phf: seems to come from an american notion that you get ahead by pulling one over on everyone else
19:37 trinque there's this one neat trick they don't want you to know after all
19:37 trinque and it surely isn't competent people working hard, anything but that
19:38 trinque the greatest thing you can be is a 20 year old billionaire that blasted off doing something pedestrian
19:41 gernika There was one hackathon which, at the time I hated, but in retrospect had some redeeming value to it. People formed their own teams and worked on their own ideas and at the end, the CEO judged the results.
19:41 gernika CEO told our team ours sucked.
19:41 phf that's an old school notion, trickster as a hero and all that, but i don't think this is that. these people are not even hustlers, i don't think there's any awareness there.
19:42 gernika Which, hey - would good if that happened more. Sadly the CEO's own idea turned out to suck and the startup went out of business.
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19:58 asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: soldered pogo-style ttl serial probe to the 'miracast'. this yielded a straight root shell in ~5 seconds after powerup.
19:58 phf asciilifeform: btw hackthons used to be face to face development sessions by free software teams, when they had opportunity to all congregate at some location. coined afair by theo, but went the same way as "open" and such
19:59 asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt
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19:59 assbot ... ( https://archive.is/http://dpaste.com/0YSCME3.txt )
20:01 asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: lastly, http://dpaste.com/05FDR4M.txt
20:01 assbot ... ( https://archive.is/http://dpaste.com/05FDR4M.txt )
20:05 decimation asciilifeform: lol no login
20:06 asciilifeform it's a serial port
20:06 asciilifeform thing inside is an extremely cut-down linux
20:07 asciilifeform (big fat surprise, it has to live in that 8MB eeprom)
20:07 phf heh, qijialiang@CVN-SERVER
20:08 asciilifeform the last time i plugged the thing into a display, i configured it to sit down on a wireless lan
20:08 asciilifeform so it can access the net, yes
20:08 gabriel_laddel "there's this one neat trick they don't want you to know after all " << hahaha
20:08 asciilifeform no telnet server though, so it might have to get new rom (and flasher) via 'xmodem' or the like
20:09 asciilifeform this is probably the smallest - masswise and volumewise - linux box that i've ever owned
20:09 asciilifeform 30 grams or so
20:10 BingoBoingo !b 2
20:10 assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0RHSK1S.txt )
20:11 gabriel_laddel IMHO, hackathons are at their core a good thing - all implementations thus far have been terrible.
20:11 gabriel_laddel "play with computers & new friends"
20:11 gabriel_laddel yay
20:11 trinque sure, throw competent people into a room, give 'em toys, sounds great
20:11 asciilifeform 'eat fine dinner and fuck AT THE SAME TIME !'
20:12 trinque lol
20:12 asciilifeform not everything wants to happen at same time
20:13 mircea_popescu ;;isup qntra.net
20:13 gribble qntra.net is up
20:13 mircea_popescu kthen
20:14 mats mircea_popescu: how long do you plan to keep the legal research project open?
20:14 mircea_popescu mats well until completion.
20:14 mircea_popescu for sure can't close it with all the work you put into it.
20:15 phf gabriel_laddel: original meaning is "remote team briefly works face to face". i think hackathons without shared context and common goal are fundamentally misguided
20:15 mircea_popescu mats ftr, we're here : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=15-05-2015#1132541
20:15 assbot Logged on 15-05-2015 03:32:27; mircea_popescu: mats went to check out the courts article, seems there's quite a bit left to go before i can close & award it. http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#selection-317.0-325.66
20:15 mircea_popescu just in case you missed that.
20:16 mircea_popescu phf not so different from any other hot topic tshirt.
20:17 phf nothing new
20:18 asciilifeform anybody else here has 'miracast' device ?
20:18 asciilifeform (or any of the 1,001 clones)
20:18 gabriel_laddel phf: Sure, as "fundamentally misguided" as any other meetup for young people.
20:19 gabriel_laddel phf: but whatever, I'm not against chess club
20:19 gabriel_laddel well, actually I'm against chess club
20:19 gabriel_laddel math club then
20:19 asciilifeform chess isn't trying to build infrastructure
20:19 asciilifeform or teach surgery
20:19 asciilifeform to paraphrase naggum, yes, i am against surgery club for kidz
20:20 asciilifeform (or perhaps i am enthusiastically for it, but only because misanthropy)
20:20 mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel sure, but there's meetup of young people ie team + cheerleaders on the bus back from game away ; and then there's the meetup of young people ie, jay explains to preteens what the clit is.
20:20 mircea_popescu he's young too. mentally.
20:20 gabriel_laddel I was never party to either of those, so idk
20:21 mircea_popescu why are you against chess club ?
20:22 gabriel_laddel chess has been solved
20:22 mircea_popescu fucking, idem.
20:23 mircea_popescu incidentally : someone should start an "abortion club" trollage/moral panic. whereby you convince "the media" that the latest fad among teenagers is abortion club. "you gotta have one to be someone!"
20:23 asciilifeform iirc there is abortion porn
20:23 mircea_popescu "the latest dangerous fad to sweep our nation's junior high scene since that faux story about fermented shit we came up with out of nowhere."
20:23 asciilifeform (definitely there was a few storiez on usenet/asstr)
20:23 asciilifeform jekem!
20:23 asciilifeform l0l
20:24 mircea_popescu global derping!
20:24 trinque my (former) buddy in middle school tried to smoke the banana peels
20:24 asciilifeform i learned of the jekem crap from uncle al, incidentally
20:24 mircea_popescu i think the banana peels thing was a different one.
20:24 asciilifeform those were in the 'anarchist cookbook'
20:24 asciilifeform along with 1,001 other frauds
20:24 trinque yeah, I think that's where he got it
20:25 trinque kid was scared to smoke weed, though
20:25 trinque wtf?
20:26 asciilifeform woah did gavin trip over his mains cable or what?
20:26 asciilifeform where is the tx spam ?!
20:26 BingoBoingo <gabriel_laddel> chess has been solved << not quite
20:26 mircea_popescu mains ?CABLE ?
20:26 mircea_popescu i fear to think of your living arrangements!
20:27 * asciilifeform does not have this problem
20:27 asciilifeform has proper ducts, like adults, now
20:27 cazalla trinque, don't forget nutmeg!
20:28 mircea_popescu is that a def lepard album ?
20:28 mircea_popescu o no wait, it was "careful with that axe, eugene" not "trinque, don't forget the nutmeg".
20:28 mircea_popescu my bad.
20:30 asciilifeform where is the spam
20:30 asciilifeform life is so empty without it
20:30 asciilifeform did the fed run out of coin
20:30 mircea_popescu failed to impressed, is at home crying in pillow ?
20:32 asciilifeform the miracast almost makes me wish i had a tv set. would plug it in, watch blockchain go
20:32 trinque lol what
20:32 trinque cazalla: nutmeg?
20:32 mats mircea_popescu: part V is covered in the first signed message, it follows the list of cases http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 and i chose trilema as the venue for public review
20:32 assbot So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( https://archive.is/http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/#comment-113478 )
20:33 trinque mircea_popescu: bahahaha
20:33 mircea_popescu mats and 4 ?
20:36 trinque https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=21663 << my god, he did nutmeg and he could think any thought he wanted!
20:36 assbot Erowid Experience Vaults: Nutmeg - Not at all what I expected! - 21663 ... ( https://archive.is/https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=21663 )
20:37 asciilifeform when i took organic chem at uni, for some reason 'extract myristicin from the nutmeg' was the first lab session
20:37 * asciilifeform did not eat it, on account of recalling that it is one of the 'bad' hallucinogens
20:40 trinque heh, sure, and his "dose" was 5 teaspoons
20:40 trinque of the nutmeg itself
20:40 mats mircea_popescu: i can build a table for 4 (total score, number of cases), but what sort of statistical data are you looking for? the set is small and idk how you'd judge the quality of the data
20:41 mircea_popescu im not looking for anything too elaborate. do a formal "here's everything" bit and i'll call it good.
20:42 mircea_popescu "the sample is small and not much to be said" is after all statistical analysis, perfectly adequate for a sample that is small and not much to be said.
20:44 cazalla trinque, preddy sure nut meg was in some cook book alongside banana skins ( i tried both afterall)
20:46 punkman "The vulnerability in Microsoft Font Driver could allow remote code execution if a user opens a specially crafted document or visits an untrusted webpage that contains embedded OpenType fonts. "
20:46 trinque I chewed some baby woodrose seeds one time, was pretty weird
20:47 mats plenty of font bugs left
20:47 asciilifeform http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg << http://www.spansion.com/Support/Datasheets/S25FL128S_256S_00.pdf >> short sck and si lines, apparently throws the cpu into bootloader, can then rewrite rom via usb
20:47 assbot ... ( https://archive.is/http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-S8sREt92vQ4/VFIK0V4gOSI/AAAAAAABxPM/mJl1PAhGmHY/s1600/HTB1KDrtGFXXXXaOXFXXq6xXFXXX0.jpg )
20:50 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207973 << /me does and will!
20:50 assbot Logged on 20-07-2015 20:51:39; mircea_popescu: if anyone cares they can click.
20:51 cazalla trinque, i think i remembe that one and something about soaking them
20:54 trinque yup, that was it
20:55 trinque and if feeling vaguely shitty and weak visuals are your thing, they're great!
20:57 BingoBoingo Empire of Fee-fees https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/a2d60412ba2ebe714ff576f9a39757a6.png
20:57 assbot ... ( https://archive.is/https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/a2d60412ba2ebe714ff576f9a39757a6.png )
20:58 trinque "The Internet's Premier Shitlord Image Host" << wahaha
20:58 scoopbot_revived The best auction. Ever. http://trilema.com/2015/the-best-auction-ever/
20:59 BingoBoingo trinque: Remember it was necessary because Imgur is fat
21:03 BingoBoingo https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/20/f0be2298689c860f6c88fe5c534aa8cc.png
21:03 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jddf8i )
21:03 trinque gross
21:04 asciilifeform barfatronic
21:07 asciilifeform http://www.loper-os.org/?p=568&cpage=4#comment-17254 << today's lol
21:07 assbot Loper OS » Why Hypercard Had to Die ... ( http://bit.ly/1JddYGF )
21:08 mircea_popescu gernika well b,tmsr~ doesn't care what you believe.
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21:10 mircea_popescu asciilifeform a hackathon is actually a brilliant idea : take a bunch of kids with cs airs, strip them naked, chain them to desks and let them come out once they did something worthwhile.
21:10 mircea_popescu i think it's been perverted in the evil clutches of ustardism tho.
21:11 asciilifeform mircea_popescu: substitute in a different profession and see if the above still appears to make sense
21:11 BingoBoingo Still works
21:11 asciilifeform e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them build a plane'
21:11 asciilifeform e.g., 'lock the kidz in a room and let'em out once some of them compose a passable symphony'
21:12 asciilifeform hope you have good corpse disposal facilities
21:12 mircea_popescu asciilifeform the only substituteable profession is camwhore.
21:12 mircea_popescu and it appears to make sense yes.
21:13 BingoBoingo Lock kids in a room, let out once two have switched kidneys
21:13 mircea_popescu ahahaha.
21:13 asciilifeform software as it exists now is largely the result of precisely this kind of process.
21:13 asciilifeform i am not impressed.
21:13 mircea_popescu asciilifeform which is what defines the profession.
21:14 mircea_popescu you think venetian glassblowing is defined by what they actually did, or by all the glass they could have conceivably blown
21:14 trinque right, "weekend appz" as I said
21:14 mircea_popescu on the basis of... glass ?
21:14 asciilifeform witch doctor in the congo does not define medicine.
21:14 asciilifeform not now, not ever.
21:14 mircea_popescu at some point, yes.
21:14 mircea_popescu at some point congolese witch doctor defined medicine.
21:14 asciilifeform not when there are actual doctors somewhere.
21:14 mircea_popescu and at the current point, "programmer" is EXACTLY like "etsy artefactual expert"
21:15 mircea_popescu but there ARENT actual doctors somewhere.
21:15 mircea_popescu that's what we're trying to do here, the somewhere. imo not done yet.
21:15 mircea_popescu so so far - programmer, camwhore, boys and girls.
21:15 * asciilifeform begs to differ
21:15 mircea_popescu used to be easy rider and waitress, fiddy years ago
21:15 mircea_popescu this isn't going towards a meta-programmersclub thing is it ?
21:16 asciilifeform nah.
21:16 mircea_popescu where is the place ? do i go to microsoft and learn how programming's done fo real by pros ?
21:16 asciilifeform mno
21:16 mircea_popescu or where, nvidia ? foxconn ?
21:16 asciilifeform mno.
21:16 mircea_popescu well what, naggum's crypt ?
21:16 asciilifeform aha
21:16 asciilifeform or my crypt
21:17 asciilifeform or perhaps 1,001 other
21:17 mircea_popescu sorry to tell you, crypts do not cunt in this discussion.
21:17 mircea_popescu a profession's not an osuary.
21:17 asciilifeform hey my crypt's in business
21:17 asciilifeform l0l
21:17 mircea_popescu lol
21:17 mircea_popescu anyway, i took this as far as i care to. gotta admit it's a fine if unpleasant argument
21:17 mircea_popescu i yield the balance of my time, to the future programmers.
21:18 phf perhaps ITA before bought by google
21:18 asciilifeform (and the folks i work with - are very much not 'etsy artefactual expert' types)
21:18 gernika http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208154 << refreshing.
21:18 assbot Logged on 21-07-2015 01:08:53; mircea_popescu: gernika well b,tmsr~ doesn't care what you believe.
21:18 mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, you me and everyone else. except nobody can visit.
21:18 asciilifeform phf: 1,001 places! but none are famous
21:18 asciilifeform and none lift derps off the street and 'teach' them
21:18 mircea_popescu a profession's different from a fucking secret society yo.
21:18 mircea_popescu fundamentally different.
21:18 asciilifeform not so sure about this
21:18 trinque asciilifeform: hell I've learned a great deal being *here*
21:19 mircea_popescu like a wife and a whore : both sore in the cunt, yet not the same deal.
21:19 mircea_popescu profession specifically means, "dominative of the public discourse on the topic"
21:19 mircea_popescu which your guys are not.
21:19 asciilifeform much of history of physical science (arguably the 'good times') were squarely in the 'secret society' days
21:19 asciilifeform public discourse - aha, nasdaq, not mpex
21:19 mircea_popescu "physical scientist" was never a profession.
21:20 asciilifeform alchemist!
21:20 mircea_popescu for that matter, spinoza was a lens polisher by trade. his profession wasn't "philosopher". that was his hobby.
21:20 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00056956 = 11.619 BTC [-] {2}
21:25 trinque !up Rozal
21:25 trinque !up Cory
21:31 trinque couple more of those and I'll stop
21:31 trinque tired of this thing going offline
21:32 trinque long term fix is ripping out the golang thing and replacing it, meanwhile... bash hairball
21:35 * asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation
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21:36 * asciilifeform notices that all of his nodes carry precisely the same tx, but then again they are all peering one another...
21:38 asciilifeform https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/128.8.124.7-8333 << l0l, poor buggers are wedged
21:38 assbot 128.8.124.7:8333 - Bitnodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLgFEL )
21:38 asciilifeform i oughta knock on their door and tell'em
21:38 asciilifeform esp. funny considering that they portscan planet 24/7 and try to -addnode to everybody who answers
21:39 asciilifeform (incl. even us)
21:39 trinque alright, that sob checks his underwear via cron and restarts if need be
21:40 trinque someone give me a shout if he disappears again
21:43 scoopbot_revived Prepare to be insanely, incredibly, very very jealous with envy! http://trilema.com/2015/prepare-to-be-insanely-incredibly-very-very-jealous-with-envy/
21:56 * asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner
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21:57 asciilifeform ideal application - small circuit, precious-little comms with outside world, etc
21:58 asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2013#429461 << old threadz, for n00bz
21:58 assbot Logged on 22-12-2013 17:13:53; asciilifeform: the clockless ARM (pretty braindamaged idea, to take a classical cpu and make it clockless, but anyway) had to be designed ad hoc, avoiding industry-standard toolchains.
22:02 asciilifeform http://www.righto.com/2014/09/why-z-80s-data-pins-are-scrambled.html << unrelated, historical lulz
22:02 assbot Why the Z-80's data pins are scrambled ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLj5U3 )
22:08 asciilifeform and for some more lulz. tried to find some material re: 'non-outsourceable puzzles', vaguely recalled that it was an idea whereby mining pool is made impossible on account of any participant being able to undetectably claim the entire reward for himself. then learned that there is no such field, properly speaking, as 'non-outsourceable puzzles', and that it was a crackpot creation of miller (the one featured in http://trilema.
22:08 asciilifeform com/2015/on-the-elaine-shi-and-andrew-miller-scam-ring )
22:09 mats deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt
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22:09 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLjIwV )
22:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45291 @ 0.00058092 = 26.3104 BTC [+] {3}
22:10 asciilifeform neato!
22:10 asciilifeform mircea_popescu awake ?
22:12 mats trinque: anything wrong with deedbot?
22:17 trinque clearly there is
22:18 trinque oh, no that's the wrong syntax
22:18 trinque just deedbot- <url>
22:18 trinque mats: ^
22:18 mats deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt
22:18 assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLjIwV )
22:18 deedbot- accepted: 1
22:18 mats syntax changed huh
22:19 trinque yeah, there were complaints, mistakes were made, those responsible were sacked
22:32 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42550 @ 0.00055919 = 23.7935 BTC [-]
22:35 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50100 @ 0.00058292 = 29.2043 BTC [+]
22:39 decimation asciilifeform: what is the sha256sum of your blk0009.dat?
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22:43 decimation http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-15-459 < " In fiscal year 2011, the most recent information available, DOD spent over $1 billion leasing commercial SATCOM. "
22:43 assbot U.S. GAO - Defense Satellite Communications: DOD Needs Additional Information to Improve Procurements ... ( http://bit.ly/1VnmJTe )
22:47 decimation asciilifeform: how did you attach your serial cables?
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22:48 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.00058292 = 32.0023 BTC [+]
22:54 decimation asciilifeform: can you even buy müller gates?
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22:55 decimation apparently he americanized it into muller
22:58 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45923 @ 0.00058292 = 26.7694 BTC [+]
23:09 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45300 @ 0.00055919 = 25.3313 BTC [-]
23:17 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35300 @ 0.00058292 = 20.5771 BTC [+]
23:17 danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-07-2015#1207730 << i copied a few blk files over to my gentoo laptop and tried blkcut and it just failed instantly so I figured I did something wrong
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23:17 assbot Logged on 20-07-2015 15:05:16; asciilifeform: somebody found a bug in 'blkcut' but did not follow up re: replicating
~ 35 minutes ~
23:52 assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27450 @ 0.00058292 = 16.0012 BTC [+]
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