#trilema | 2015-06-23

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00:55

corvette muzique

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Vexual: myeah nice

00:58

do you even mine << pank

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<asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: 190.172.13.251 is dead << confirmed

01:01

asciilifeform ben_vulpes well it seems an entire intricacy with stacked nat routers

01:01

im evidently not set up to support teh esteemed efforts of the republic over here. working on it.

01:03

testnet does not have any actual uses as it is.

01:03

!up george its open

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furthermore it's diverged significantly in behavior from 'mainnet'

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thestringpuller

!up Vexual

01:07

it has, which is what makes it useless.

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mats

it'd be great if you all would assess how drunk Vexual is before upping him

01:08

good luck forking testnet

01:08

maxint always friend

01:08

it's just another altcoin at this point

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mats: i do it just to annoy you

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and dearest kako

01:09

assess how, balmer point ?

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mats

sure

01:10

complex differential eqns those

01:10

hey pete d'you have a node to throw into la serenissima's syncing party?

01:11

there's a syncing party ?

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*

pete_dushenski scrolls up

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173112 << lol. like the derps at the city here who 'improved asphalt techmologee' by making is less durable.

01:13

Logged on 23-06-2015 02:00:13; asciilifeform: 'the chocolate ration has increased from 100 to 50g...'

01:16

"your share of bitcoin has increased from n/21e9 to n/42e9"

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ben_vulpes: does the node have to be synced already to join the partay ? i have a 0.7.2 at 222'868

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173219 << quite so. taleb blames 'the bankers' and 'the revolving door between federal politics and megacorp industry' while failing to take his accusations to their next logical step : popular democracy.

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Logged on 23-06-2015 03:10:59; mircea_popescu: aha. no authors specifically, because he does not specifically understand that he's battling westerners that have joined the choir invisible centuries ago.

01:29

taleb's too much a protector of the people to see them as the source of all evil.

01:29

this, despite being a notable proponent of burke.

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and burke, to my reading, is no fan of the common man and an advocate of monarchy.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173236 << myea. 'shouting at the rocks'

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Logged on 23-06-2015 03:22:02; mircea_popescu: and THAT is where taleb engages traditionalism - where it matters. nobody is still left at the wheel who can talk back, so nobody does, all that's left is a cargo cult of the dead st. thomas, trudging along.

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173220 << canberra ? http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/13/stalking-black-swans-in-canberra-the-city-of-plans/

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Logged on 23-06-2015 03:11:09; Hasimir: the problem I have with the rarity of black swans is they nest in the lake across the road every spring ...

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Stalking Black Swans In Canberra: The City Of Plans | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LqJVg1 )

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<pete_dushenski> ben_vulpes: does the node have to be synced already to join the partay << no.

01:36

but it has to be on a publicly accessible ip, port 8333 open

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aha

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http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173353 <<< nah, he's from melb

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Logged on 23-06-2015 05:35:07; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2015#1173220 << canberra ? http://www.contravex.com/2014/12/13/stalking-black-swans-in-canberra-the-city-of-plans/

01:49

cazalla: ah yes, home of csirac and that very bizarrely shaped costco store

01:50

ya know they include that in real estate ads here now.. "close to schools, transport, costco"

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you're like america jr. jr. the third !

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yeah, i never thought i'd see ham planets walking into costco with my own eyes.. i should snap some pics for BingoBoingo

01:52

i'm sure he'd appreciate it, if for no other reason than as a reminder than the usistan isn't alone in sucking.

01:53

s/than/that

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but we have lil' china, lil' italy, so why not large america?

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makes sense given how much more physical space each american occupies compared to each italian and chinaman

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!up Keefe

02:18

cazalla do you use info@qntra.net ?

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nope

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buncha emails outbound.

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spam?

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myeah.

02:24

lol 250mb of it

02:31

so didja lose a pw or what ?

02:32

what do you mean

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how did someone end up sending spam off qntra server is what i mean

02:35

would appear it started around june 14th of this month

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to the best of my knowledge i've not leaked the password

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i see june 22

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ag3nt_zer0

I should probably just keep digging, but in reading the logs dated late 2013 I see concerns raised that another bubble is fine as long as it doesn't go to 1k... and this was not too long after people were getting warnings that btc wasn't worth more than $130... why was it bad for it to go to 1k or past, and given all this craziness, how do I deduce what would be a current fair price to make a relatively wise investment? I

02:38

ag3nt_zer0

liquidated thinking it will continue to sink...

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mircea_popescu, http://i.imgur.com/KjnyoQA.png 8000 or so of those beginning june 14th

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... ( http://bit.ly/1GwFpVX )

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pages that is

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jesus fuck

02:39

dude....

02:41

can't you check logs to see who logged in on that day and few proceeding it?

02:42

i dun have your pws.

02:42

you must because you gpg'd the new one to me when servers went down after the dmca bullshits with trilema

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you think i keep all that ?

02:43

at any rate, delete that account.

02:43

see if you have new php files anywhere, etc.

02:47

isn't this just a case of someone (likely guy who ddos joiners here) sending out spam from another server but spoofing return address so qntra email gets hammered with delivery fail spam?

02:47

has qntra server even been sending mail?

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a) no and b) actually, my server is sending email because somehow someoine signs in as info@qntra and i naively faield to disallow qntra account from sending email

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did you create that account ?

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don't remember but likely

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can't log in to cpanel to delete email addy now

02:52

didja give it a strong pw ?

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whatever cpanel autogenerates

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Authentication:dovecot_login

02:55

apparently they guessed your pw.

02:57

for info@qntra.net?

02:59

you'd wanna make sure because i don't, and have not, created my own passwords for some time

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nor do i have a passwords.txt sitting on the desktop

03:00

i dunno how i'd make sure of such a thing.

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80651 @ 0.00042358 = 34.1622 BTC [+] {3}

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fucking mess.

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1(213.17.193.245)[188.252.64.178] info@qntra.net spamfight.mdsnet.it[81.208.4.144]

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1([127.0.0.1])[113.165.162.6] info@qntra.net gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.133.26]

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1(actorsivakumar.com)[69.162.107.83] info@qntra.net gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com

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etc etc etFUCKINGc

03:28

not much new in backups i've made so no new php files http://dpaste.com/1NNK6CK.txt

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... ( http://bit.ly/1J1wJuL )

03:31

yeah it's not a php thing, seems 100% certain it simply guessed the credentials for that acct, used them for pop3

03:34

i might've used something weak when creating it but again, it's not something i do so i don't really know what else to say

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well, i deleted > 50k messages from queue, the email in question, and hopefully gmail, yahoo and everyone else will at some point forget the fact that i spammed them to shit for the first time in my life.

03:38

mail serv on same ip as qntra because i dont see it in any ban lists yet

03:38

no.

03:48

so when you say guessed the credentials, has the person simply guessed the password or had a hash of it and cracked that?

03:50

most likely the former.

~ 23 minutes ~

04:14

cazalla http://dpaste.com/36H4FD1 < new pw

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dpaste: 36H4FD1 ... ( http://bit.ly/1HaAVuC )

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Jun 23 02:27:40 dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=<info@qntra.net>, method=PLAIN, rip=::1, lip=::1, mpid=10940, secured, session=<K5i5f

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIJ2ROsUAAIHwJ7.png

definitely was broken pw.

04:22

punkman

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... ( http://bit.ly/1HaBXqu )

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258100 @ 0.00041448 = 106.9773 BTC [-] {6}

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ag3nt_zer0 http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-assets-rules-and-regulations/#selection-103.1-103.32

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#bitcoin-assets rules and regulations on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fy84Jo )

04:40

asciilifeform looks like i'm going to have a (full chain) bitcoin up in a coupla days.

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this is an up to date historical (2011) copy of the blockchain.

~ 33 minutes ~

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66601 @ 0.00042624 = 28.388 BTC [+] {2}

05:16

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17849 @ 0.00042824 = 7.6437 BTC [+]

~ 17 minutes ~

05:33

[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81300 @ 0.00042824 = 34.8159 BTC [+]

~ 1 hours 9 minutes ~

06:43

anyone wanna do a 50 eur payment for me ?

06:49

credit card or wire?

06:50

paypal o.O

06:50

derpy blender foundation lives in 2001

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sure

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pm me detials

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*details

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https://www.blender.org/foundation/development-fund/ << do a platinum thing

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Development Fund - blender.org - Home of the Blender project - Free and Open 3D Creation Software ... ( http://bit.ly/1LiAuy5 )

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kk

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ask them to credit it as <a href=http://trilema.com/2015/minigame-smg-april-may-2015-combined-statement/#selection-455.0-455.21>Eulora</a>, a MMORPG by S.MG

06:52

ok looks like it'll be a subscription, so it's 50 EUR/month that comes off PP automagically till I cancel it

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kk.

06:52

i'll tell you in reasonable advance when to cancel it.

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Your purchase was successfulPayments By PayPal

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DescriptionTermsAmount

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Blender Development Fund

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€50.00 EUR for each month

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Effective Date: 23 Jun 2015€50.00 EUR

06:53

cool. what's the damage and send addy.

06:53

let me email them the link, gimme a sec

06:54

no rush.

06:57

hokay emailed

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FNB :-) R710.38 reserved for purchase @ Paypal *blenderfund from cheq a/c

06:57

fnb ?

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bank

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aha

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https://bitx.co says 1 BTC = ZAR 3 394

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BitX ... ( http://bit.ly/1IwiJq6 )

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uh

06:58

that's... 10x ?

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0.2093 BTC

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oh, 3.4k nm

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yeh sounds about right

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1s2fF7uw5Fsh5Dzu7mP7ccbKM9jFZk89q

06:59

aite, you'll have it in a few.

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tks

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nono, ty.

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pleasure

~ 53 minutes ~

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78400 @ 0.00040353 = 31.6368 BTC [-] {2}

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lol

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mircea_popescu

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Thanks for the donation. The page you want to link doesn't comply to the standards for linking on blender.org. Please give a link to a page with your personal info (contact info) or that of your company.

08:03

Regards,

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-Ton-

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uh

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<a href=http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MG>S.MG</a>, Bitcoin Games

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k replied

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ty

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sooo... coinbase sells ads through buysell ads, and wants to get 20 bucks cpm

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lolk.

~ 28 minutes ~

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[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60765 @ 0.00039851 = 24.2155 BTC [-]

~ 19 minutes ~

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http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/06/pop-goes-bubble.html << mega-l0l

08:57

ClubOrlov: Pop goes the Bubble ... ( http://bit.ly/1eFEi0d )

08:57

funkenstein_

new Cohen piece worth a read

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'The rate would like to go negative, but it can't. Because, you know, that's the kind of debt even I wouldn't turn down (by the way, I don't have any debt). It's the kind of debt where you give me your money, and then you keep paying me periodically to hold on to it, or spend it, or gamble it awaythat's none of your businessuntil forever, because I have no intention of ever paying you back; I'll just keep rolling it over

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at ever more negative interest rates, and you will have to go on lowering them, because if you don't I might cut down on my gambling and crash the financial system again. If you agree to these terms, then you might as well also give away your wallet and your car keysjust to see what happens.'

09:03

maybe they give him a diesel engine.

09:03

l0l it looks like he got his engine.

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kakobrekla can i has http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/eulora-bitbet.jpg banner on bitbet linked to http://trilema.com/cutekittens/buysellads.php?i=1 plox ?

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